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Welcome friend, tension that today you cannot move from here because we are going to talk to you about this scandalous case that exists between Flor Rubio / Pepillo Origel and among many more involved people who are making the series, look in order to make money here We are going to tell you the whole story so don't open up to me, we start by being exclusive, controversial fun and much more. Hello, friends, my name is Jorge Carvajal and today, well, as you can tell, I am accompanied by Felipe El Feeling with Philips. very good thank you if you seem very happy with the treatment that you do not have tragedies in your life and we start in love because that is why I smile everything I tell you I tell you that without title hot hot accompanied we are going to talk about this topic that The lawsuit that Flor Rubio Juan José Origel filed against him and filed against him has given us a lot to talk about.

It's been about 2 to 12 years now. I have been in that position for 52 years. This lawsuit is not because supposedly Juan José Origel, well, I talk about other things that I don't. They had to do with Flor Rubio's life and this obviously offended her a lot and he decided to sue him now. What I remember at that moment was that Flor Rubio was asked, well, and he is suing her and what he wants, he only trivializes it. Well, she probably wants money and she said no, the only thing she wanted was a public apology because what a shame her family is for her parents and I don't know what I'm going to do.

She said that the only thing she wanted was to clean her image of what had been done. said, although in reality I can see you cleaning an image, it is exactly now that she wants to do it through the authorities, but also for those of us who saw the video of what happened in Acapulco on that occasion, since Juan José Origel was a spoiler, that is, he had his routes Others who pay attention to a person who is in this situation, no, and they were also in a private meeting, no, he did not publish it when he was director of tvnotasnovelas, he did not make a cover saying what he thought, he thought, these are the comments that we always do things that also That also means that we all do them and I can assure you that the flower is included because at the end of the day we are all, if you don't want to call that talkative, gossiping, gossiping, face-raising, whatever you want, but that's how we are and we are in one more party, of course. more so if you say with a few glasses one two three or ten then obviously you start talking and such and then yes he is just as naughty as me oh no if he is the same as I don't know what and maybe in a tone of mockery a tone of laughter the best with some truth, maybe she is just about answering something, we would have to see in what context they were talking because also if it was the chatter and the chatter and they were destroying not her but perhaps everyone from the production who was there in the ear program or with the people who have worked on Juan José and the moment when it is time to talk about this character is when they turn on the recorder because obviously one interprets it in a certain way but if we analyze the context it could be totally different well the thing is that here what I understand and what I will listen to will be the origin was that when he leaves the bathroom of this restaurant this place where he was at a party is when he bumps into the blonde-haired reporter at the This one, Abriel Cuevas, that the reporter says he's a good guy, and that in fact, this guy is the one who starts talking bad about Flower.

The time you notice that I never even asked an angel what I told him, he told him that he didn't tell him but he said if we make deductions, I imagine that I would say to him, there's a problem this time when you give me a job because I'm sick to death, I've already been like that because this woman and look what this is these or and so she already knows and has said this and this about you and if you are yes yes look they are handling the sentimental thing on the one hand and on the other hand they are throwing you under the water of You say this this this and this to anyone it turns us on because maybe whether he has said it or not said it is without merit to whoever you want but in the end he will learn from you if he carries some things that you know that could have been done said ask from then on you start to blurt out what you say maybe from that moment on the recording began believe when Juanjo was ranting that this Mr.

Cuevas said that Juanjo had invited him to work with him for but Now for the level at which Juan José Origel handles himself, I know that he is a personality in the greatest shows and social events, not just in Mexico but in the United States, people go and ask him for a job, he no no he is not recruiting, he is not telling you that Wii and if you have to look for someone you would never look for someone like Gabriel Cuevas ever in the life of and I tell you, I have known him for many years, the other, better one, I know him from there from chacaleo, if you want, no, but he That I know him a great note a great job that I could say is that I don't like him but he is very good as there are people from whom I was born I say like this because yes there are but in this type I can't say anything in favor unfortunately that but What I do tell you is that when you say, of course, that he never looked for you to offer you a job at all, and then the fact that, I repeat, he arrives and I lose him, he starts to approach you with certain things because he's also not the type of person.

The character with whom Juan Jose Origen is going to be is going to start talking at a party is not the character, look, I know someone and the most that is going to happen is when you see him out there you know what would happen what happened they are having fun, have fun guys and he leaves because that's where he got off his people are his children yes because he is also very polite and you can also fall on the top and I'm also telling you because I've seen it is to fall on the top and have you in front of him and you can see the most diplomatic and he smiles at you and greets you and leaves no but just like there is a seagull we are going to stop no no no it is not true that is not true I mean then from there the falsehood began it is not good regardless of this the truth is that I I hadn't wanted to investigate the story but nevertheless the information came to me on my own and it turns out that I'm finding out, look, nothing more than this guy from April Cobas swears and perjures that he didn't do anything that he didn't sell anything that he didn't record anything He doesn't know why they blame him, that in the end he doesn't play the victim, but I understand from what they told me that in reality, and at once he clarified that he didn't tell me anything, he is from this origin because it suits him and he doesn't know what What I'm going to say but they told me that in reality the person who went to sell the information was both Gabriel and another character who worked at tvnotas and no longer works and they charged 150 thousand pesos 150 thousand pesos for the audio and they divided that between three people, what I don't know yet is who was the third person who got the mess, don't feel the recording, come on, they talked or who they talked about, I don't think so, but look now that you say it, it could be a good option that they were divided up. among the external one you are gabriel and flor of 50,000 they have to play more to flor well because they could have already told him with what compensation we sold it for 50 it could also be 30 because apart from that you see that he wanted to change his cart which was from 2007 He says you're not little flower, he said that he had a 2007 car that he can't change it because he starts working so that he can change it, well, if he is working but he says that he doesn't work right now, he has the formula and I'm telling them what nothing more and then he also said it's That your husband doesn't have the sushi magazine anymore, no, Rafael, this Martínez is just right now, well as far as I know, with Ciro Gómez Leyva, in which there talk spectacular things, so that's why he doesn't have enough money for changes, I heard from 2007, well, let him put it on to work but look at everything everything that goes up comes down and that is so that we can all learn because there came a time when we felt that we had the power of everything and it happened to Flor that Flor felt that she has the power of Televisa than to have Televisa in her hands hello nobody absolutely nobody has the power to do anything good not even juan jose four seminars we have already commented on it several times look there was a raúl velasco who wanted tremendous things to televise and from one moment to the next he helps us in the company and not even anyone with the the velasco there is a jacobo zabludovsky who also left the company and ended up doing radio and until then a verónica castro who was the queen of the soap operas died, the same if not now she is looking for him on the other hand lucía méndez who was also a great star of soap operas and then we all kind of can have a moment that goes well for us or that anyway but but why do you act out and think that you have to study masters of the world of course no then and look at the end Juan José Origel has already publicly apologized to her twice, he asked her on the phone, but today you think that if it were really that I want nothing more than my image, then nothing is more than enough, but now we have to be grateful in life too.

Yes, Juan Jose at that moment when he started hearing that he was the owner and what he said when he was going to do something about that problem, if at that moment Origen had told him I don't want this girl sitting here, Flor wouldn't have sat there and told him I can cure it or that's how easy things would have been, however, despite the crooked teeth and the little experience they have on television, Flor accentuates it and she had it and they even sent her to get it fixed and everything and she became gorgeous and beautiful and very very pretty no and then in the end she ended up as the headline almost but apart from that you don't appreciate it on the line and besides there is something I say they are both journalists and they do exactly the same thing I think that when everyone maybe a note you have your two ways to to get the exclusive to get it out, do you know how this whole environment is handled?

No, then, I imagine that in the middle of the show, tell me, you who are a journalist, everything that is said, everything is confirmed and is one hundred percent real, well, not all of it. place 100% so that is confirmed but also as happens in life or in anyone's family you find out things that many times you fall short of what you said gates and you talk about them not because he has done it or did it so much Juan Jose, as Flor has also done, so she complains about something that Juan Jose did, but she also does the same thing because at the end of the day, that's what I'm telling you.

At the end of the day, at some point we're going to open again. the mouth well without with things that we know and with the shame that you like it or you don't like it because for now they did not reach us boys and their children so now of what he said origin well the truth is that I could believe many things and At the end of the day, if they weren't, then they don't affect you either. I don't know, it's because they create so much drama in which the family offense breaks out when we are in the 18th century, lady, there's no aside, look, there are ways in which he could have left it very bad with jose very bad she could have gotten away perfectly well if she had gone out she stands in front of a camera and they say I'm a lady well what she did in this other one that I don't like the red ones with paula reds and in the case of the husband, if I had wanted to go out, I ranted against him, but she came out like a real lady like that, she said a few things and that's it, and that's it, and that's it.

I'm not going to talk anymore because, at the end of the day, he looks like her father. children and of course, but well, if I had gone out, he stops in front of a camera and says, let's see, see me, I think that Mr. Origel was very drunk, I think that age is already affecting him, he doesn't start to skip a little thing, but what happens is that to see very is to look bad internal valleros or if you want it is very good you look like a queen and there she died but here you can see the advantage you can see the wanting to get and it is clearly seen and I am not even telling you why because I am a friend of origin and for none of that I am saying it successively because that is how things are, you wanted a public apology and I and everyone apologized twice and twice then rather then and clearly things already when you are hiding something it is because something is wrong and Juanjo, your son, I already say it in interviews, I said I was wrong, I watered it, how we all fixed it, otherwise it must have happened already, Luís, I normally offer him an apology and what Flor had said at the beginning is that it was what he was looking for, not that his image would be clean up with certain the argument with flower's parents the one who affirmed in mind that it was supposed to be the most important thing for me what I defended the most so he also apologized to them that more than asking more now you want money well then they try to you they are before go out publicly and say, you know, because of what this man did to me, now I want money, period, and I deserve it, and people will also realize that you are honest and that you are saying what you consider belongs to you, of course, but when you start No, I want a public apology, Mr.

Lawyer, keep coming out, that is, that has not been defined very opportunely. I also try to handle the abuse on the women's program side. If you want to leave a precedent, that is, at this point in life, what What we have to do is try to find other ways of handling things that don't become so big and make them clear from the beginning to see if you offended me because of this I am this and I think of you this can be good it can be bad but say it clearly and The thing is that from your point of view, no one is a euro coin to whom I believe that all people will always speak well of us, those who are sad because the moment you find out that it is not like that, you are going to suffer, you are going to get depressed, we should not be aware. that some people can be very good, others not so much and others are not even going to fight you then, well, if she had not taken it on that side of saying well, now that she doesn't like me, sorrythe same medium that, in addition to everything, she should have considered the following: Juan José did not record it personally on his phone, he did not take it to the magazine and sell the recording, so I believe that there he should have gone with you against those who did this and How has he managed himself in a personal way?

Let's see if you think of his friendship well, he just doesn't commit it with more people and looks with the genius of the medium that at the end of the day knows the dispute is between the two of them and what you say and the magazine that It was the one that really made money by getting the clear mark, everyone bought the magazine, those who won in the magazine, there is nothing, there is no demand, nothing is asked of them, and in the case of the guy, the guys or whoever recorded this also, where is it then?

It is the right also because I imagine that originally I would also have the right to report, no, well yes, notice that now I am not a lawyer but I spoke a few days ago with a friend of mine who is a lawyer and specializes in studying the rights of author and literary works and so on, a lot also has to do with this medium. One of his names is Benjamín Flores and I asked him precisely about this situation in which cases the authority considers a non-case as defamation and he told me that the information is good.

Moral damage does not exist, but look, let's listen from the point of view. It has to be moral damage, but it has to be less than if you dig into the real justification, then this is not going to proceed. It's how I want a job, it has an opportunity, depending. The perfection of the authority and the way in which the offended party defends and exposes the situation is how a complaint of such a fact can be accepted. There is no excess of freedom in the use of expression as such. There are hundreds of limitations within the authority. own constitution where it is allowed that one can express their ideas freely but as such there is no excess and a public apology can be requested but usually in this type of complaints the economic factor will always be sought even within the repair of the damage is always going to be done in a peculiar way or in money, I would consider and then from the point of view of their clients they will be the one who is reported because they said something about inconvenience or weakness, well, the first thing I would do Well, it is this in denouncing the person who accused me if my authorization is what I first regret and there all the damages and losses that could be generated by a building caused by what I said to whoever made it public because this is also I would have to sue him to be co-responsible for this situation because I suppose that if I allow or buy an image, a video or an audio, I must have at least authorization from the person to whom I am his opinion converted his opinions into From that audio of that video, the note is always searched for and sold to the highest bidder. case of lady, victim of circumstances and other great artists, encounters with public figures, then it will depend a lot on the elements that one of the parties provides to the judge. in order to determine if they are really due to damage or harm to the person and morals of the person who is being considered aggrieved, well, notice, Jorgito, how in some way many times we can give our opinion but since we do not have a say, the authority will always have it and See how some terms that Flor has used in the media, as she said, I won the first instance because the judge considered that there was an excess in freedom of expression.

Now what Benjamín, the lawyer, tells us is that there is no such good term because I believe that freedom of expression is precisely one hundred percent freedom of expression after that, which is, well, yes, and you see that it also tells us that Juanjo has the same possibility of both denouncing the magazine and denouncing those involved. that they were both online in what provoked him to say this and in who used the recording and took it to sell, I believe that at the end of the day and there is an investigation involved to see who is right, Flor or Juan Jose, I think that the first people who have to speak are those of the magazine and those of the magazine would have to show and demonstrate who they bought that material from, under what terms or concepts, they sold it in what quantity and who was paid, because as Well, said the lawyer, yes, as the guard said, the best thing to do is to look at this, we have to leave it with doubt.

In the end, it is not confirmed, but whoever it was is ultimately the person who can tell the truth, really, what happened and how it all happened. That is now still working with Flor, it is not there, there could be something there that is half in there and what you also told us that when they go on the mission to Jordan Farmar, no, but what you also told us when there is no authorization from you for a material is exposed there, can you have a legal argument to be able to do something? That's why he told us in the interview exactly why he's using his image, they're using a recording that, apart from that, he didn't even realize they were doing it and They put it up for sale, that is, they are profiting from a material that belongs to them because it is a brand that is finally of origin, you know that it sells those pretty ones and the whole thing, so it is a value vitamins to give as a gift in some exquisite ones, so this one, well, yes, there is the way in which he could also take legal action, I don't think so.

I don't know Mr. Origen, but I don't think it would be like a lawsuit and all that, but it could be, not legally, if he could sue the dismissed pgje if he had put a list flower, instead of giving him the origin lawsuit, if they had united, they would have talked about them in a loud voice, they asked for an apology, ok, they would have told me, you know that my guarantees, what you did, it doesn't even matter that I'm here muddy, so let's unite and now let's go. Let's see who is earning from all this because your origin is earning money from me for talking about me nor am I earning money from Esther for suing you and by sharing let's see who is really winning or who won with this and we are going to get money from them them and being there we repeat them if you want or you do it to me however you want and I bet you that I said level he said now we are going to join him and you kept the money so I want it he has put that I would have said yes yes he was looking and look and It's not that we throw everything at it, but at the end of the day we're back to the same thing: the magazine is the one that made money with all this material, of course, and those who went to sell the one that earned less but won the origin and flower, look, they're just here. going to court and spending money on a Sega lawyer, and what's more, it's a fortune what the lawyers cost you, which I, the original lawyer, assume are abused.

What he can do is apart from taking the money from them, he can make them take care of the expenses that the trial now you are the lawyer philip friends from all legal fields at least this one that they give me my house took away at least I already had a service to have in my masahito to be relaxed so thank you very much for having accompanied us thank you very much thank you very exclusive fun controversial and much more