OFFENSIVE JOKES WITH RICKY GERVAIS

of the country and the broadcasting laws, no, I have never, I have never done that, but you have to follow the guide, you can't go crazy. You know daytime television, yes, and you're fine, what happens with swearing? Well, it's not the second thing. It's that you even swear if you want, but they'll kick you out and there's no victory in continuing this morning, and when you come, it's like you get it, you do it once, for sure. You know, but that doesn't get you caught, yes, but no, I try and, but I like them, I like restrictions, I like to work within the rules because it gives me an idea of ​​how far I can go, because if you can do something good, there is nothing. things like the avant-garde, you're obligated, if you do it, no one cares, so I like to work within that framework, you know, even if I play a game, I go, what are the rules? and I want to go, how can I? beat the system, so I like that there is a system to beat that makes sense with the right and stand up.

I know I came and saw your show in Manchester and obviously you mentioned you didn't even say how good it was and they left. I watched your show and I was like, oh, thank you, and I think they have it simple, they like something like yeah, they could leave. I'm coming, cheers anyway, you mentioned on the show that Jane sometimes gets a little worried with your new material and kind of looking. about that and stuff and yeah, how she ever made you take out a joke or she made you change a joke out of fear that you wouldn't.

I do one thing, buyer because I think this is right, yeah, and um, you know, and she might say oh no, we're We usually worry, we usually don't worry about breaking the law or saying something that, um, we really don't. I think it's you, the only thing that stopped me from doing something, is really hurting the feelings of someone who doesn't deserve it, so if I go after someone's pretense of pomposity, behavior, whatever, that's fine, while I try not to chase things that people can't avoid. Yeah, oh, I don't. I don't make racist, sexist, homophobic

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or that's not the case.

I mean, I don't talk about race, sex, homophobe, yes, I talk about that, but there is a difference is which side you are on and it is not the subject of a joke account, it is the objective, but what I am not going for, don't laugh . with someone's grief, no, I don't find it funny, even if there's a great joke out there, I think I don't go there because they don't deserve it, no, so I like it, in a way I like my goals to be Fair, Yes, and that has nothing to do with being popular because you say things that you want to say and that are safe and that still make you unpopular. um you know some people are offended by equality you know that so don't settle for that what's your basis.

I'm going for someone who's a fair target. I wanted to get your take on the backlash James Corden had about Weinstein because obviously Weinstein deserves any kind of criticism, yes, but then he had such a bad reaction to the joke. It was me? I want to know if it was because it was a joke it was what it was it was you know if you can go after controversial topics but they better be good you better be on the right side and you better be clear and to some extent it better be that way It is also the right time because you have to be very confident if you are dealing with something that is booing you or arguing with you, you have to put in the effort.

I don't go out and try to do it. ruin people's lives or undermine the moral fabric of America, although the

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are thought out and that's why I can support them because you know that doesn't mean people can get the wrong end of the stick, but I've done the best I could. It's not that anyone didn't get my joke, it's not my fault, yes, because I posted a tweet last night and I think you really know a lot about offense in context and I have to agree with everything you say and that's why. I admire you as a comedian, but last night I posted something on Twitter that wasn't so much a joke as it was a statement and people got offended and said that's what it was and I'm happy to be proven wrong here. but people said I was making fun of suicide.

I talked about beauty but sometimes they call themselves influencers on social media and I think that's a very arrogant way of saying oh there are so many different words you can say so I just posted a kind of semi joke that said that if you refer to yourself as a social media influencer in any way you are right because by doing so you are influencing me to do heroin or commit suicide and someone said that was making fun of suicide so I made the reference that If you tell your mother that she cooks so badly that it makes you feel bad, you are not taking the vomiting heartily.

I mean, that's fair enough, yes, you're using a very dark simile, yes, to exaggerate your point. that's what comedy is usually exaggeration, yeah, so when you save like, "Oh my God, I was starving there," they don't mean you're literally starving, it's nice, it's dark, it's very dark. say that you are not dying of hunger, there are people who are dying of hunger. to go, okay, you know I haven't done it yet, no, you can also have pretty dark things, less dark things because that's what poetry is, that's what an analogy is, it's um, it's a little bit of a stretch for understand each other, so no, there is no way you are making fun of suicide, so it is possible that you are using it in a trivial sense and making people you know remind them of the bad things that have been done to them, but again, that is not your problem because everything reminds you. people about things if it's basically bad, things happen to people, yeah, and that's not our fault, yeah, I don't want to rub salt in the wound or you know, I can make a joke about a very dark thing and someone in the audience could do it. has happened to them I didn't know that if I came out and said hands up who is that something really ha yes that's different yes, you know it's a very different thing yes, but I think that's it, it's a classic example of someone who gets offended because They have confused the topic of a joke with the real objective, the objective was not that topic, the issue was that you were so annoying, pretentious on YouTube, is that right?

I think that's clear, yes, and I remember when I was on Twitter I did that. a joke and if one person got offended, I delete it and think, oh, that's not why I'm there, yeah, and I think we move on and then people say the rest of us got the rest, so you got it too a duty. in terms of people who understand it, yes, if you remove all the jokes that might offend someone, there are no jokes in the world, yes, literally someone, why did the chicken cross the road and make my chicken die last night?

I'm a vegan, yes, so do your best, but dr. James Gordon and I think he bounced off of some sort of light entertainment and then tried to do, you know, taboo things, it wasn't quite him, the jokes weren't up to par with the applause, yeah, there was nothing real. I'm not a real Joe, it's like you know I deal with those dark topics all the time, but I want to tell you not to try this at home, right? I mean, because there is an ability to do it and I feel a responsibility. I'm not one of those people, it's stuff you know, comedy is your conscience, taking a day off.

My conscience never takes a day off. I can justify every joke and would probably talk about it too much and defend it too. a lot I just go whatever but I don't want people to think I want people to go oh it was a joke because I don't do that either I don't know it was a joke it's a joke and that's why it's Okay I think that's it what you should be able to say at the end of the day if you had told those same great jokes. Do you think you can get away with more because you're a slightly more daring comedian?

Well, I think people could certainly say that when it's a closed club, people come to my shows. I have no right to say that I didn't know I would talk about AIDS, hunger and cancer, they should know and two, it's not necessarily. something bad, even on this show now I say, you know, a joke about something bad is not as bad as the bad, it doesn't even necessarily condone the bad, it could be aunt, the bad, it depends on the actual joke, yeah. and but no, I don't trust them to say that everyone knows who he is and he's joking.

I still think the joke has an afterlife because, taken out of context, that joke still has to stand on its own, and often it doesn't. You know, any line on this current show would be horrendous out of context, yeah, but in context, everyone there knows the buildup knows why I'm saying it, they got the backstory that they've been taking on a trip, it's like you, yeah you went out and yelled a joke at summer, I don't understand it, so the whole joke and sometimes the lead-up to the joke and I think I think the problem was would you really make it very expensive. pushing something has to be good and you have to be on the right side, yeah, so it's a skill, you know, it's a skill.

I think people think you just go out and yell things, but while I'm working on a job or a routine for months, yeah, you know, longer than it takes a journalist to say how terrible it was, you know, they've taken a few minutes to look. this Chokin, well, I've been, this is, this is bulletproof, this gag and so on and you. It has to be bulletproof because when taken out of context you feel that the world we were in now in 2017 is very different, so let's say when the office was launched it is different, do you think this is almost impossible to say, but do it?

Do you think that if the office were liberated now, it would be perceived very differently? No joke, stay there, well, no, it's not like that. You know people haven't changed that much, but the way people hit people has changed. It would be the same, you know, a cross-section of humanity who see this and understand it or not, but in those days I wasn't afraid to make a complaint and tell them why they were wrong now if someone's BBC complains about it. down the other complain like me on Twitter in the early days words you should be able to stand up so I said well no I'll tell you why this is okay and some people just want to be heard like I work doing my real job. and you know one of the things I do is customer service training and that's all part of my job and some people complain and even though what you did was you called them back and they said, "Oh, sorry about that." and I'm like, oh, thanks for calling, yeah, don't worry, I think people just want to think that they're heard and taken seriously and you know they've had a lot of time, you know? you're done with your life for not doing that you want to make a difference that's what heckler is that's what a troll is alone that's what i want their moment they want their moment that's why people join a group marginal

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terribly horrible because they think well, I am something now, yes, and they are still news.

Well, you dress like Hitler. You have been news, thank you. You know that now there is no difference between fame and infamy. People have thought that cavemen just used to spread the word. Hand and leave your mark I was here, yes, and that's all this, that's what people would want to go to. I was here, yes, and they just want to be part of the cause of the web. They want to think they made a difference. Did you get a lot of boos? on a tour of humanity, I think I think I have one really, why do you really react or you just know I try to ignore it, but this guy was persistent and what was he showing something?

Oh, it was really good, it was really awkward because I do a little bit about why I don't have kids, right, and it's really crazy, you know. I look at the children's reason and it becomes more and more strange and terrible and the fencer and I started to think about sailing and and they don't bother me at all. I think I've created an environment where they don't bother you and are there to listen. It is a program and it is a reflective program. And he went the other way. through what he went through, it's a tragic waste of talent.

I shut up, okay, okay, no, I checked the note, I closed that and Claudia's whole Clapton laugh because he's always going to win, right? Oh, God, and I was thinking about it and I was thinking I was doing the routine and I was thinking that my news would be good oh maybe he was going oh it's a waste because I like you and you should have a child where and and they started taking advantage of my mind , so now I feel like a but I yelled to shut up a fight and chose the one that made him happy by doing I said I'm sorry Mike, did you mean he left?

Yes, that's what I meant. Very sorry. Well, sure, yeah, oh, but. Still, don't even interrupt to be nice, well, it's the end of those good times sitting there. I really enjoyed the show and I said to the man, I think so, even though he enjoyed the show, it bothered me and ruined my flow, I still thought, oh God, maybe he was nice, yeah, so I'm very aware of that and the more near the punchline, more true and the joke, yeah, shut up, basically, yeah, up, um, but I still think it has to be before it snows, you know? think if someone showed me something we love you Ricki dies cancer you know what it really is.

I saw you in Cambridge, great show and when I saw you there was a woman next to us who says: I think some people are laughing because they want you to make a reference. whether there is alum or no one, no one laughs again, people want to go, although they always want you to go, who has that way, yes, I try to ignore anyone who seeks so much attention. I also do it on Twitter, attention seeking is the most. annoying thing, they can say horrible things well and yesBritain. Got Talent, he is a pianist and I told her that in two hours I will get you tickets to go see him and she wasn't going to London because of Isis.

I remember I was 18 the first time I went abroad, which was like I had a temporary passport and I was going to France, so one day a certain day and my mom said: what are you going to France for this part? I already knew Encino, but that's it, there's a mentality, you know, I think particularly the British in America think there's nothing. It doesn't make sense, you don't need to see the world you have, we have everything we need. Bobbo comes out with a card today, oh, and Netflix, no, in fact, I never lose my legs.

I don't need these, sell my legs to Carlo Netflix. I just remember this really sweet story my sister told one Christmas. I was old enough to know that Santa wasn't real and she was young enough to still believe in it, so my dad was like, "Okay, go up, get in it." room and then I'll go get the bag of stuff and I'll go into the night and I'll get dressed obviously dressed as Santa and then I woke up my sister I looked out the window so she got up, she looked out the window and my dad was leaving with all these things and she just turned to me and when Santa had the same sneakers as that and then obviously because with that, but dad smokes weed, okay, dad did it.

Oh, daddy smokes weed and my sister is at school one day and he calls her puff weed and she was a shooter at school and the teachers were blowing things up underneath and she just had to teach in terms of a system when a parent looked at that , yes, that's for sure, it's brick, let's finish with some Twitter questions. and a quick game of word association, okay, so we could give you a word, obviously, which one are you, the pressure, yeah, there's pressure, so it was a lot of fun. I'm going to reflect, I'm going to ask, what do you mean?

So let's go to the office. one word sorry, wow, wait, wait, wow, one word to describe the office, embarrassing, Golden Globes, funny, Trump, glorious, Slough, great, great, right, okay, bloggers, Susie astok. I think just 2018 is the future okay so we've got some Twitter questions from people and that whether we do it mark West would you rather live on a diet that consisted solely of pork pies or scotch eggs? You don't eat strong questions now either, but why not? Well, I guess I'd have to go for the Scotch Eggs so I could remove the meat and eat the egg.

I guess, as you actually say now, I think so. If it was, what would happen if it wasn't? What would be better if it weren't? Yes, there is no morality, yes, we are in a world. Now where I think it was still with a Scotch egg whatever because the pork pie you open the port but first of all the pork rind is not like puff pastry it's like concrete yes harder you know? I mean that thing that people like without gelatin inside, I always took it off, you really let it set a little, apparently it melts oh, really in the temperature, you leave it there, then you keep it longer and then, which It is the middle, you rise above what you should eat. an uncut pork pie with your eyes closed because when you look and go well what gray animals inside was this slam soup pig everything says if you were on your deathbed I love this question and I could muster up energy for one last action but It had to be one of the following: would you jerk off or just shoot heroin?

What are you going to do? You have approximately half an hour left. You only have energy to do one of those things. I'm assuming I hope and I'm very, I'm very old Yeah, well, then I think it has to be the heroin, yeah, just a plumb if I'm 87 with what they are now at 87, honestly. It would be like a cross between putty, honestly, it would be like what goes into a pork pie, honestly, it would seem stuffy now. Ranson, horrible, the last turkey neck at the butcher shop and I'll be trying to manipulate. it might fall apart in my hands so no 87 means masturbating is out of the question thanks for your question there was another one i think we'll end with that someone wanted to know if we could take a low oakley style photo together could we be easy yeah well same chair, I think if you have it there, yeah, unless actually a chair is good because it can really fuck up, sure, yeah, remember when I came out of this, I was talking about digging the closed Taylor Sega, oh yeah, I know, yes again just for being fat and these the organs were already in my throat I lost a kidney okay now yes crumbs just Parkinson's you're looking but you're turned on you could be any deaf magic whoever you want you're looking back on your career in your life, What was the only moment you thought yes, I made it?

Has happened? Do you need something else to happen or is there one? How do you define it? Was it something like being happy and doing what I want? and I always have, even if that was, you know, wasting time in school and then thinking I have to get my grades because I want to go to college and then join a band in college and then I always know I don't. I know, I think you could, most people can be happy, they just don't realize they can when I didn't have any money because I wanted to be a rock star and I was struggling.

I thought I was happy because I was trying to do it. Be a rock star with no money, you know, I mean, yeah, I was happy, yeah, I wasn't, it's about the ride that I never miss, about the anger that you don't know when it's over, that's why you keep doing more. and more so you don't have to I wake up every day and decide what I'm going to do today yeah, you know, outside you know the responsibility of paying your taxes and going to the dentist, right, yeah, um, I just think we're just here . because I don't know anything if we think that the universe is thirteen point four billion years old, yes, 4.6 billion years, you know we are a point, you know where we were, with trillions to a probability that we are here and it doesn't go to exist anymore after, so you just have to enjoy it and not hurt anyone, yeah, and I think then you can't regret it, you know, I don't know, I can't imagine if there is anything. that's a lovely scent, it's a great way to end.

I mean, I guess deciding if there's something important that you know was deciding to be a comedian. Yes, they made it redundant from XFM in 1998 and I thought I would do it. do this for a living. I remember waking up thinking I'm a comedian now and I'm going to do what I do and that was lovely because it didn't feel like a big change but like a great second chance, you know, I never thought I was 18. I would do my big 30 angle move, whatever it is, right? I mean, yeah, and I would say it's never too late, that would be me regretting all the things I thought were too late, no, there's no point in learning a language. fluid now and on the 28th I thought about charging my battery, isn't that carnotaur?

It would be amazing now wouldn't it, yeah, it's never too late, yeah, the only thing you like to do is when you're lying in bed. 97 it's too late to meet here we go this is a very Christmassy special from work Podcast Tom Norris thank you all very much there is a real Home Show here we go it has been a pleasure thank you very much I'm going to do a Squatch oh yes