Nie mehr erste Liga? Traditionsvereine nach dem Absturz | Sportschau

traditional club falling further and further down simply crashed 18 60 Munich now shines for me Ostfriedhof what has been in darkness for years red white food we are in the fourth league on the opposite path now successful again the first FC Magdeburg the club itself actually means home for me never again traditional first league clubs after the fall forever down or back the club facilities from 18 60 hours before a home match in the fourth league the club is supposedly the great love of Munich is older than FC Bayern from the first league until Franz L. has accompanied the club since 1970, he has only missed 15 games, we live like this, I really have to say that I was married for years and I have to do it, especially because 260, if I mean everyone can give up on you at some point, you are my wife at some point.

That being said, the decision has to be between 60 and 1 5 versus and then we decided on 60 but that was definitely 20 years ago. For players, the team bus takes the. A few meters from the stadium, instead of the Allianz Arena, now in the The old stadium on Grünwalder Straße was a place of worship for many fans, because the club celebrated its greatest successes here in 1966. In 1966 it was proclaimed German champion , but now we have to start again in sporting and economic terms. Things just came together or a chain of unfortunate circumstances led us to where we have now changed. 60 For six years he has depended on the investor Hasan Ismaik, who was the first to save the club from bankruptcy.

He then took it to the Champions League and wanted full control after relegation from the second division, but he did not want to continue paying Israel and even refused the money for the third division license because of his actions. But he probably wants to stay at the club for the rest. At the moment we are in constructive talks and now we want to leave Ismaik in the regional league. The second team of FC Ingolstadt is today as a guest in the large stadium, if only 12,500 spectators are allowed. In the old stadium, which is at most suitable for the third division, 0 0 0 are no longer allowed at half-time, very little for Franz L and for 60, who is forced to promote with the largest budget in the league. what you want No longer everywhere here only 0 0 the young team of 60 fans who were happy to be in their old home was still celebrated, but the stadium is not modern enough for big football and without the money of the investor Ismaik It won't be easy and honest football anyway, you want to be successful in football because you want to play successfully and you always want to win.

We can do it in the fourth league with a very young team, but in the long term you will achieve it. be with us This has to be arranged under less then he sold his shares with another investor the crisis of 18 60 is just one example of many because the tradition is also in Essen in the red white cellar the food has come a long way the man who everyone simply calls Coca is a legend of the fan scene. He shows us a party basement. Kuka is also a red light fixture in Essen and a member of the Lions, a fan club whose hoo

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For years it has been in the center of the regional league table. The man has so far only been able to escape relegation thanks to a promotion. The champion does not automatically pass. First of all, the teacher has to get up, the teacher doesn't. You don't go up, the biggest shit ever, the teacher has to be promoted, we still have to play relegation games against others, so the biggest stupid problem is now only possible if you play in the Bundes

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, the first or the second. Principal Wedel comes with money, he doesn't have a teacher like we have everywhere.

He opens his pub with three men, so he has a chip shop, he opens his pub with 100 people, mostly nice clothes, and he goes into business and football. His friend Manni Sander is in the garden of Coco's property visiting a transporter from Essen who spent ten years on the board of directors of RWE, but who often saved the club with his own money and is also responsible for the decline of the club. club. we have to pick up the colossus Anna Pohl we have we have to have ball players I have never kicked the ball I have no idea about them Should I go to Poland with one?

We enter the Ranking game. Complete nonsense if I mean, it had a spectacle appearance which is often the spectacle appearance I carry with me if the photo is just before duty 0 Football, but the other birds that are in the Andes have no idea either that they could only sell well here or they were simply sold differently and We always made the mistake of hiring people who were from the sports channel in 1955, the red and white food was introduced already cup winner, German champion in 1994 during a long time in the first league and then as a second division team at least in the cup final in 2010 but insolvent forced relegation the bad management reason for the accident we did not have two national peters either tea and ski the two of us who signed up for the the second half of the season that we cost and soybeans 500,000 marks has ever been written and everyone with the two stretch red white never one was I like to see red wine again and the other was injured after two games but the 500,000 they have Yes Two lenses, in short, everything is gone, decisions and things like that where people They say that's why he no longer works on the day of the match in Essen, the president of the red-white team, medical professor Michael Welling, on his way to work in the stadium.

Economist Welling, who has been president of the RWE club for seven years, has fallen into debt. free under him to be able to get up, but he needs richer sponsors than before or even an investor like at 18 60 without knowing the internal aspects now at 68, but from what you hear, maybe you are not so happy with the gentlemen. has driven once and I think that that is not necessarily the model we are aiming for, but there are other models that are perhaps more serious, may be more sustainable here in the long term and, above all, that the crucial thing is that they fit with the reds. and white when an investor comes, he has to go with red white fit food and that's not all it's the first home game of the season western regional league former board member money sander and kuka are there as always Rwe had the largest average audience in the league from the previous season with almost 8,000, today the red and whites can host Wuppertaler SV.

First of all, the goal of the season is to play attractive and successful football, but Rwe is having a hard time in the box of the Sander transport company, which still sponsors Rwe, the mood after the break is getting worse and worse. no no, the first goal conceded in the end Wuppertal won. The Essen club's management's plan to promote to the third division within three years is called High Three. The second of these three years and the false start to the season leaves Kuka black. You can lose euros as anchor of the Iss Water Obtereisendorf and we lose at home against Wuppertal.

You have to imagine I'm doing it again. I'm here, we're talking here because I'm in the house of Havel red wine reputation, but pain limits are set before 1. You see a club and Chris without any performance offered because shit, all the locks, nothing different. Shit, I can't do anything. I am so disappointed and frustrated. Indeed, RWE, the club of world champion Helmut Rahn, a traditional club with a great history, suffers, but it also suffers from the burdens of the past and, in fact, it has. Before the insolvency, there were years of poor management which then led to the insolvency of hundreds of people, so I think it is understandable that one or two managers in the company would do that.

So I'm not necessarily a big fan of putting my money where it's not. This is definitely one of. the reasons why we are working on it and I think we have worked very sensibly from an economic point of view over the last seven years. We have a positive capital base, so we always say it with a wink, so I think our capital is. better than Schalke 04 and von. That's why we introduced this and we're in talks with many, many companies and we're pretty sure one or two will support us more intensely in the future. Meanwhile, FC Magdeburg is.

Once again the first to leave the lowlands At the beginning of the century, Magdeburg went 25 years without representation in professional football. Magdeburg was the only European Cup winner in the GDR and only entered the regional league in 2015. A fan of FCM for many years, he meets friends on the way to the stadium before each home game, as promotion to the third division only took place for FC Magdeburg to great euphoria in a city that has a great football history . that we are actually out of this regional league because there were always those greats from Magdeburg who still think and say a European Cup winner in the year 74, so the club does not belong to the regional league or even a third league , although what has been particularly fun in recent years has been in the third league.

Yes, also these classic duels from the East, now there were Rostock Dresden, now Jena, which is always fun because, in addition to the old days of the GDR, on this day the opponent is also remembered. Only Werder Bremen two, despite the fact that the FCM attracts people again, gives reasons to be proud of the city. Magdeburg has the highest average attendance in the third league. More than 17,000 people attend each home game. Magdeburg is present again. But I still live in the past and I wish we could win the European Cup again or is it a realistic path that I think in the medium term for the next five years, to stay in the third division, that was very good, second in the first division, nobody needs that third league.

It definitely has its own advantages, there are very few fans of the event and it's like in the third league, but actually, well, why isn't the weather exactly the same as in Wolfsburg or Bavaria, where people say yes, I know that I have to do? participated more or less, it was just to tell the story in the office the following Monday, not from a stable and that's not the case here, but we really burned people for it, a city and a stadium, everything and everyone dressed in blue and white, more than 10,000. Season tickets sold A newborn club The number of spectators has tripled since promotion Magdeburg has narrowly escaped promotion to the second division in each of the last two years.

This season they are one of the main favorites against Bremen 2. The club is. 1 0 after years of mismanagement Without debt, without major investors but with many local sponsors, FCM wins 4 to 1 against Bremen and begins the season successfully. A completely normal afternoon in Magdeburg. The atmosphere was good, as always, the second team of Werdener Bremen and yet we have 15,000 in the stadium coming from Lossburg and supporting the team completely and that is a great effort for the little Buchbach from Bavaria. It is expected to see how the rivals of traditional clubs in decline deal with the situation in Munich in 1860.

Anton Meier is the first president of the TSV Buchbach for days the assistants volunteer to help with safety regulations and also know how to protect the players where he has decent fans in Europe, this game should be to ensure that autograph hunters usually don't get so close to the players. The opponents here are called Illertissen Seligenporten or Pipinsried, but today there is a state of emergency, the effort is much more complex and costs a lot. Normally at normal regional league games we don't have security, only volunteer hostesses and today Sammer was sentenced to approximately 25 commercial orders.

The fans invited here are otherwise a minority for the distinguished visitors from Munich, but. Everything is very well decorated, yes, and now we go to the wellness area for guests in the so-called cage with wellness collectors. This gesture area is designed for 250 visitors and the group will be called the autodromo or ultras. In the regional league the norm is that these teams are available two hours before the start of the match. The blue and white invasion begins. 2,700 spectators are expected and only 3,100 residents can reserve in these places. Previously, TSV 1860 Munich only played friendly matches. Here in the league you have to play.

The locker room is small, it is not a luxury and it does not even have its own bathroom for the players. Here football remains as original as before. decades ago with the tickets sold out in advance after a few minutes 68 here is still a big figure 60 Coach Daniel Bierofka has reinforced a young team with former Bundesliga players in the tsv Buchbach, on the other hand, there are footballers after work 18 60 In previous years, a relegation candidate in the second division is now in the fourth. He is always the favorite, each rival is very motivated and Buchbach creates the sensation of winning 1 to 0, while the 60 coaches and players are upset, the days of preparation for Buchbach have borne fruit as it is now in Steidl and the fans remain calm, all the effort, the commitment, all the effort, all the precautions, the safety measures, it was worth it, we are very happy, yes, we will pass itwell.Augustiner minor or two or three Bavarians is one of the greatest successes in the history of the club from the private insolvency of the tsv bodman Werner Lorant with his partner and his son Lorant 19 years old coach at 18 60 has seen the collapse of the club coming for a long time, I said.

That's three years ago, you can't let yourself be dictated by an investor or become dependent because if that happens it's over, now he's suddenly there and you're starting from the bottom like now, which bothers me the most. From the 1860s he had already been immersed in the amateur field for ten years, until Werner Lorant took the club from the Bavarian league in the 90s. He almost managed to enter the Champions League in the holiday apartment where he now lives permanently, He started training clothes Today Lorant gives soccer training once a week for the children at the camp.

Everything around is a ball, where is your ball? Grab the ball, grab it quickly and then quickly come back, yes, you too, quickly in 1860, always. Werner Beinhart called it and he swings the ball towards his foot he's not really afraid of it yes two push-ups protected through a good choice quiet touching cool what was happening what was happening so beautiful and where five pieces will be high and who will let me You know? I'm telling you, none of the children, many of whom come from Bavaria, wear an 18 60 shirt. The traditional club is already lacking fans for the future.

The worst thing now is having to start from the bottom. That's the worst. It takes a few years and everyone knows that within a year the next generation will leave for Rot-Weiss Essen. Meanwhile, the game of the year is the first round of the DFB Cup against Borussia Mönchengladbach. Once again, Kuka, a RWE fan, does not go to the stadium but to his local pub, the cup match is broadcast live on television, the red and white meal against Gladbach, the meeting of two traditional clubs, one together in the first league and another three. class difference, my children, like my father, never gave it, that's why now I'm in their clothes in the rwe stadium surprisingly they manage to reach 1 0 it's as full as it has been for a long time 18,500 sold out spectators gladbach gets change the match shortly before the end the favorite is only 2 to 1 due to his surprisingly good performance will eat up the team afterwards Celebrate an evening like in the old days in Essen, play at the top or Essen advance to the cup.

Then there will be a wave of euphoria that you can't even imagine. In Essen, every tram, everyone in every station, the entire city is white, it would be 120,000 for each one playing at home if you were at the top. I'm or if you're still promoted to but and we're the fourth league, my God, the fourth league, that's not great football just for one night on a short visit, the really important football was played in Magdeburg in the 1970s. Sascha met the Facilities of the Ernst Thälmann Heavy Engineering Complex During the GDR era, many Magdeburg players worked here, but they did not work there.

Although they received their salary from the state company, their job was to play for the club. What people are like It's not the classic opera people, it's the workers and I realize that the football club here has adopted this style of play, this classic work style of play, so I like to call the players ball. players, but because In fact, it really captures the character of this game. The first FC Magdeburg is one of the most successful clubs in the history of the GDR. The club was champion three times. The FCM Cup won the GDR record, even then with Dinamo Dresden.

The first FC Magdeburg was a club that worked very well here in Magdeburg Münster. This is particularly important. The problem is that our team here, above all, has a defensive attitude and a better attitude in attack, Sascha Eickel did not experience the best. In the days of the first FC Magdeburg, he only knew everyday life in the third and fourth leagues. Tradition is noticeable, especially in the city. Here, especially at the club, it is very important, which is why many fans love to remember it. The great successes and what has been achieved here in the last 40 years For me personally it is something important, but for me it is actually the word that counts even more.

Local club. Ebdorf, a small community near Magdeburg, invites you to the local club. At the town festival today many are here in blue and white and then invited as special guests are the heroes of the first FC Magdeburg from the golden generation of the 70s Wolfgangsee, where Joachim Streich and Martin Hoffmann were previously Beckenbauer Müller and Meier in the West, the three One of the highlights of the festival is the shot on goal by Magdeburg football legend Wolfgang, called Paul Severin Graf in 1974 in the European Cup Winners' Cup final, presented by Martin Hoffmann. The final was not even scheduled to be broadcast on GDR television until the powerful machine combines broadcast Magdeburg's 2-0 victory against the great AC Milan in the final in Rotterdam at short notice. the strange tradition of equipping cup champions with bathrobes.

Everyone thought, come home with me, I have my beautiful sports bags, yes I knew that, but I gave them back after the game. The strange thing was, of course, that they wanted to wait. But only when they stayed in Rotterdam, the players had pocket money of 10 marks per day for the trip. After their return, there was also a bonus for everyone. I have GDR frames for the European Cup and a car without a license plate. They also have the car with a lot of bitterness. They enjoyed it here too. It wasn't twelve years and the car had to wait, but it was actually delivered to me.

Yes, I also asked for a car and they had asked me for it the day before. To pick up the car, he called me at his cabin and said, young man, I did it, but you asked for a car. Well, what, in Bottrop they start with tanks, so I had to start, which one? In the end it killed me on trips to the European Cup, Franz L and his friends also have all the drivers behind them. Before they always rented a minibus, but due to the short distances in the regional league it is no longer necessary, beyond the big ones. arena, heading to the small away game in Garching in a suburb of Munich.

I imagine that in 1972 some lost points should be established, whether at home or away, and that is why it is a pity that Bomb has already been and now on my side Unterföhring Ostfriedhof. the sports field of today's rival is behind a forest property the investor of TSV 18 60 Ismaik had set the Champions League as his goal today the club plays in the VFR Garching is an acceptance by all drivers after decades The initial advantage of the favorites He was still full of passion, like recently at the tsv Buchbach. The VFR Garching players have all gone to free time, unlike, for example, the experienced first division Sascha Mölders, who already had a contract at 60 years old last season.

After relegation they found another club and, a little overweight, Mölders was hired in the 60s, so he went through relegation from the second division and now has to compete in a new start at the district sports facilities. I play every week. Actually, our fans in Japan are clear that small football stadiums are the other thing, a big ring, but that's nice, it's also fun and yes, for me it doesn't matter who 32 it's just football, just fun 18 60 victories. Garching and is the leader of the Bavarian regional league with a small lead, so we are on the rise, we are very, very friendly and that is what we have to do.

Of course, finally we are a little bit out of the league, so that's my big goal and not only to get to the third division, but also to the second or the first. Everything else will be considered a failure. After the seventh day, Rwe is with a considerable distance in eleventh position and will probably win. This season they will not be promoted from the regional league either. Meanwhile, in other places in the city the power that a traditional club can also house is demonstrated. Team 3 is the name of this regional league team, which was founded as the third team. of the RWS and is now second, the previous second of Essen.

The team was withdrawn from the district C league for cost reasons and now three young people with addiction problems, depression and former prisoners play on the team. For five years there has been a project for socially disadvantaged people who play this Sunday at 11 at the Rot-Weiss Essen against Holsterhauser SV. It is a challenge for addicts and depressives to get to the game on time. This time everyone in team three showed it. up RWE is a club in the north of Essen where the unemployment rate is particularly high. However, there are few educational and leisure opportunities. The football brands that we all have to play is fun and we also want to be successful because we eat with us. the first team with the youth department, but we must not forget that it is about people, it is about us giving back some of the privilege that we have and I think that is what we work for and that is why it is more fun to work with people here, to give something back to the people.

In the regional C league, RWE is in the middle of the table with 25 players, the team has three in the squad. Oh, today we are here to say that we laughed together, we knew the other context. We have become a real team and if you are stronger, team 3 loses this time, but results are not the most important thing we have in the fifth year. Now we have saved two people from the street, we have released colleagues from prison because of the schools and the equipment. They got together and then paid the fine so they could leave immediately.

While RWE is breaking new ground in the regional league, the club as a traditional club still cannot keep up with modern professional football. There are many other ways to raise money. But that is why tradition in itself is not a value that really means that you have money to invest in the team and tradition does not help patients achieve sporting success. The first FC Magdeburg has already achieved sporting success. After a good start to the season, the club remains on the path to promotion, playing at home against another traditional Eastern club, Hansa Rostock. Actually, the third division has a lot of momentum, which is why it is at the top.

The teams have fun just like the regional league, but now meeting teams like that again here in the third division is a special year. Peter Fechner is the president of the FC Six years ago I was pregnant, when no one else wanted to take charge. responsibility in the then club in crisis For decades, the club's fans have seen thousands of happy faces when I was promoted, but when I heard that there were thousands, with their work they can make people happy, no money in the world can replace it. 18 60 Magdeburg managed to escape from the regional league Peter Fechner welcomed DFB Vice President Dr.

Rainer Koch, because four days later something was already known in the DFB circle that completely surprised the public. A reform of the controversial promotion regulations for regional league teams? Now the coaches have to analyze the whole matter and look for better relegation regulations, but please, not only from the perspective of how Weiss Essen 860 Munich FC Magdeburg fares. is the fastest from the regional league to the third league, but we also pay attention to how Magdeburg, if it has already arrived with the third league, as is the case now, can also act there in an economically sensible way without being in danger.

You have to invest a lot of money again, it is no longer necessary to go down to the FCM. Some 350 local business partners In addition to the number of spectators, sales have also tripled since the promotion of the regional league. Peter Fechner is always looking for sponsors When he took over six years ago, Fechner was still met with hostility because the first FC Magdeburg had been harsh for years with fans and donors. I was disappointed, but Fechner was able to revive the club and. Today is an example of how a traditional club can return to normal.

I'm actually talking about that, I think it's really about what you do well or what you do differently and that's mostly the trust that fans can give. Return to the sports field to let the people who understand it, who have an idea about it, lead the way, who do not get involved as a percentage and, of course, in the economic field to convince people that it is worth it again at first view of the decision, hey frosta. Average time Magdeburg Concept Consistency and competence Fechner five and a half years ago we brought in a sports director who is still in the position today.

The coach has also been there for three years. Plans have been developed that already point to the second division. , but the base has not always been there and you have to be sure that not only will they not be relegated immediately and that, in fact, you can move forward, there is a decent base, a good team and then you play in a stable way when you brings together a lot of people, this is demonstrated by Magdeburg, then it works even without large investors, regardless of the league, traditional clubs are a cultural asset. Officials and fans can protect recent history in 18 60, in any case it has a deterrent effect .

We see what happened in 1860 Munich, in fact, you can last the club, so with ten the money can be very important,but only if it comes from decision making. district house For example, watching Leipzig or waiting here is also worth 10, but they get the professional competence and let them work and then my God, but at that moment she just feels like she has to get involved in the team, that's 100 percent never . Again, the top league does not necessarily return for traditional clubs, only with solid planning, patience, money and of course luck.