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Nick Ferrari rows with campaigner over deportation flight

Nick Ferrari rows with campaigner over deportation flight
do you have an update on how many might have departed this country good morning to you good morning

Nick

we don't have an update on numbers we believe that a plane has left and I don't think the Home Office has confirmed the number of people on that plane we know that a really good number of people that would have been on the plane are not on it because of this Court of Appeal ordered that we successfully sought last night and the government's appeal was rejected just after midnight
nick ferrari rows with campaigner over deportation flight
why is it important some of these people are allowed to stay Bella access to justice is a fundamental common law principle there's nothing more British than access to justice as you were can you talk about people being spirited away at the very least we owe everybody who's in this country a fair trial and a fair hearing and that's what we know was not happening for those being held at Heathrow sensors there's been no mobile phone signal there since mid-january that means people
simply cannot access lawyers and are going unrepresented not being able to put their case forward and this includes obviously people that have been in the UK for a really long time I've got clients that have been here since they were two or three not able to put forward evidence to show that they have family here they have really strong ties here and that they have nobody in Jamaica or they would be at risk in Jamaica where the authorities aware of that the inability to get a mobile signal
they were we filed our action just over a week ago and in the Home Secretary's response to us she concedes that they were told that the mobile phone signal was down from the 13th of January it doesn't look as though any credible action was taken to ensure people had a mobile phone signal there are almost 700 people being detained in in these centres

Nick

and it was only when we filed that there was a last-minute scramble to get SIM cards she wasn't able to get enough SIM cards the
nick ferrari rows with campaigner over deportation flight
SIM card she sent handed out with faulty people didn't have credit and and the SIM card still didn't work and she didn't even hand out SIM cards to everybody that was going to be on this

flight

she she managed to offer them to about half of the people what is the position of you and your colleagues once these people excuse me once these people get the necessary telephone communication and they have their appeals that are your position that then if they are found they must be deported
that should go ahead the law of the land as it stands is the law of the land and I accept that okay I think access to justice is fundamental that's the first and if you have it if you haven't got that then you're nowhere the second point at which I think has been made very well by people like David Lammy is that there is a wider issue here because these essentially are the children the grandchildren the nieces and nephews of the window company I feel but do go ahead and they have
broken the law everybody that is subject to this to this power is somebody that has been convicted what well no I think I think that's fairly do not think is it not a grotesque disservice to the thousands possibly hundreds of thousands of descendants of the Windrush generation who live peaceful lives law-abiding lives pay their taxes that they are sort of lumped in with these people and these are the law breakers and the others under here to the law you know as well as I do that life is not
nick ferrari rows with campaigner over deportation flight
necessarily as straightforward as some people might want it to be listen listen to the Windrush community listen to the Caribbean community in this country they are the people are the people that doesn't give them a get out of jail card just because I'm a grandson of a Windrush person no what I would say to you the Windrush generation are in favor of changing the law because these are their relatives and they believe in principles like rehabilitation and second chances which we are meant
to believe in as a country in always have believed and we've got a really proud tradition of that

Nick

and let me tell you one more thing I've got clients who are victims of crime it's not always clear-cut I've got I've got clients they're victims of sexual abuse and have been groomed into county lines operations and so yes they have committed an offense but they were under duress and they were prisons full of innocent people selling you know that as well as I do everyone
in jail is innocent come on I'm not saying that

Nick

well prison is full of innocent people you'll know that listen I'm saying that it's not black and white you can't this person is all good and that that person is a believer and and one more point which i think is really it's the kids of these people I've got a client with six children all under ten he's the primary caregiver by the same mum by the same mum and he lives with the mum she's now that she
shouldn't become a criminal Bella he committed a drugs offence it was a complete anomaly he's always worked incredibly there we go people here we go again but he's rehabilitated so give him a second show