My #1 Chair Pick - Secret Lab Neue (versus Used Herman Miller Aeron + Atlas Headrest)

What's wrong with everyone? My name is Dan and honestly, today we're going to look at the Secret Labs Secretary Chair, the Noya Chair, and this

chair

. I love this

chair

because it feels like it's both an ergonomic office chair and a gaming chair. They had a baby together, which is something I've been dreaming about, something I've been longing for but it's like a

secret

love story baby because it seems like for some reason the

secret

lab doesn't want you to know about this chair because well, how many of you have? I've heard of the Secret Lab Noy chair, they don't seem to advertise it as heavily as their game and two line, because even when you go to the website it's pretty hard to find this chair like it's buried pretty deep in the menus and I don't know why. what, because I'm officially crowning this chair as my favorite chair in that mid-price range of five to six hundred US dollars.

If you're looking for something new, if you're looking for something

used

, I still recommend it. configuration here, this is the refurbished

aeron

, this is a

used

aeron

with an

atlas

headrest

and this configuration will cost you around 600 dollars so I will make comparisons between the two chairs as we go because the prices are similar, but again Please note Keep in mind that this setup will be 10-15+ years old, while it will be new for about the same price. Let's be honest. If you want to purchase the noya chair, use my affiliate link below. It doesn't cost them anything more. it really helps this channel and of course if you like this review please subscribe and all that jazz the newer chair was definitely designed for smaller people my theory is if you are six feet or taller and weigh 240 pounds or more , I will put all that in metrics under this chair it will be uncomfortable for you just for reference.

I'm five feet six pounds and I think the size of this chair is perfect for me, but I do have slight discomfort in the seat in certain positions. now for more data points, my wife who is five foot seven, yes honey I admit on camera that you are taller than me so she is five foot seven and much lighter than me she weighs about 110 to 120 pounds, and finds this chair to be perfect for her. and then for a third fact, my friend who is 5 foot 10 200 pounds when he sat in this chair he said oh this is impressive especially because he is comparing it to chairs like the aeron and he embodies it so he was really surprised because of how good she was.

I felt a little discomfort in the seat again because it's on the upper rung of that weight limit, so keep that in mind if you're looking to lift this chair, what would make me crown the new chair? be the best chair in that five hundred and six hundred dollar price range, well, it is for three main reasons: one is because of the all-mesh design, it has mesh on the

headrest

, backrest and seat, and although the mesh is not as soft like the one above found on the aeron is exponentially softer than the one found on the favorite m chair, the budget chair, so it's really good and the mesh is really good for breathability.

I found it to be really good because it doesn't make sense as well as if you are. And I mean this in all seriousness, although it sounds very funny, if you are passing gas quite frequently in your chair and you have a cloth chair, that cloth will

pick

it up and will stain forever. Mesh because it's a little more sacred, some of that can get through and it doesn't stain as much or because it's a little more plastic in nature, you can clean it a lot easier than mesh, where it just stays. there and I can never get it right, so there's something going for it.

The second main reason I love it is because it remembers what I was saying when I did the secret live review that I wanted a chair that I could measure. It's like combining the ergonomics of an office chair like something like an aeron with the gaming capability with that tilt back feature of a gaming chair and the

neue

does it extremely well, really very well, so although I can't go as far back as a gaming chair. chair, you can move back quite a ways and then with the touch of a finger you can lock it in any position you want and if you've never read anything on your laptop or watched anything on your computer, lie back like this, there's nothing like I'd like you to You could go back a little further, but this is pretty cool and it's an infinite lock, meaning you can literally lock it in any position you want.

You want to block it perfectly. 90 do it if you want to block it. a little bit lower, get it right, there are no designated locking positions, you can lock it literally anywhere you want and you can do it, and again it's a great combination between the ergonomic office chair and the capabilities of a gaming chair, and so on is. it's really really good and the third reason and you probably just saw it now you're probably wondering how he closed the chair without even moving his torso because a lot of these chairs to adjust a lot of the functions that you have I really like to lean or stretch or twist my torso and I find it funny because, ergonomically, if you want to have a chair where, if you want to sit ergonomically, you have to align your eyes with the top of your monitor, the problem with all these chairs is like to adjust the height you have to lean over so you lean down and you like to lower the height and you have to come it's always guessing you say oh I did it, I hit it, you say oh no, oh I hit it too far, you have to go back up, you know, it's that game you play with this chair.

I feel like Secret Life really put a lot of thought into how someone adjusts their chair and I can adjust it. my chair the height of the chair without moving my torso at all, just that's on my fingertips literally, same thing with the lean bag, I can do it by leaning back on my fingertips and I'll explain all that a little bit . a little more in detail, but that's the other thing I love about this chair. They really thought about how someone adjusts their chair and since it's more accessible, I'm going to use it and compare it to something like the Secret Life gaming chair where, if you want.

To tighten the back tension, you literally have to get out of the chair because the seat tension, the back tension is under the seat and you can't adjust it unless you have a long, strong, long arm or a long, strong arm. . I don't remember unless you have these crazy long arms, which I don't think is physically possible yet. Overall, those are the three main reasons I love it, but let me go ahead and explore the entire chair from bottom to top. above and I'll be talking about the pros and cons along the way, as always we'll start at the bottom and work our way up starting with the wheels.

The wheels are not the quietest thing there is. I don't know if you can. I heard they aren't the quietest but what I appreciate is that they seem to be wheels for hard floors and carpet, like if you compare them you see this is on a hard floor compared to my aeron which has wheels for carpet only, like If I push them. It will keep running forever, which means you can't use this on hard floors because you'll ruin your back and legs trying to keep the chair stable, so I appreciate that it's an all-floor caster instead of one you already know.

Floor wheel, so the legs look like, I don't know, polished chrome. I don't think they're actually chrome, they're probably stainless steel, but I appreciate that they're flat because for me, when I sit in my chair. I like to tuck my legs under and rest them on top of the chair and unlike the Aeron which has a sloping top, this one has a very flat top which means I can rest my feet on it and for those of you who wear shoes . the house or you plan to wear shoes while sitting in this chair and your chairs, your feet will not slide off the sides, so that's the legs in a nutshell, now they are back under the chair, one of the things that does not You will find here what you find on all these gaming chairs: it is impossible to reach under the adjustment knob of the chair that no one will use because it is impossible to reach, but under the chair there is only one adjuster and it is this one at the bottom Right, I don't know.

If you can see it here, I'll put it in the recorded footage, but it's the backrest tilt tension adjuster and this is what I meant earlier when I said they really thought about how to make the controls on this chair as accessible as possible. possible because unlike other chairs that have a knob that requires you to put your whole hand in and then turn with your wrist, that can hurt your wrist and I've heard from people that I hurt my hand so I can't. I hurt my wrist, so I can't turn that knob. These guys have what's this called, like a handlebar that you can turn.

Now it requires some wrist strength, but it requires a lot more arm strength and the other thing they thought of. is that it's in this really inward position that's hard to reach, but to make it easier for people to reach it, you can pull it out, which makes it much easier to access, and then from here you can swing it forward. and rotate it. it's very easy the other way around, very good for your search lab for implementing something like this. I really appreciate it, so that's basically all there is under the saddle now that we get to the seat and there's a lot to talk about here, both from a features and pros perspective. perspective and unfortunately a cons perspective so this is the part that you probably want to hone in on a little bit more so let's just go from the features so the seat allows you if you look to the side here and there are so many features.

You almost lost track of that, so there's a button here on the left side that if you push it and stick your hips out, the seat panel will move out now, unlike the version that has the design where it's like an inverted tab where I like that inverted tongue feature better because if you sit on it and just pull it out, it gives you more thigh support, but if the seat physically moves, sometimes what happens is people end up creating sort of a reverse slouching as they move. your buttocks forward a little bit and it creates this space in the back seat where your back is, your lower back is no longer touching the seat and it creates some tension in your back, back pain there, so unfortunately this has the design where it moves outwards, but not only. that if you try to sit all the way back and your seat is all the way forward and you lean back in your chair a little bit, you feel this weird bulge in your butt and it's not a good feeling.

It feels like you're sitting on hard plastic when you do that, so if you're someone who likes the seat to be as extended as possible and at the same time you're going to lean back, it's not going to be comfortable for you. you and you're going to end up moving your butt forward just to do it if you're not someone like that and you don't mind them pushing the seat in sorry it's not the easiest adjustment in the world either if you don't If you want to lean back then there's no no problem, it's just for those people who like to have the seat quite far forward, so that's the sliding seat adjuster.

Now there are a couple more things I'm getting confused with. all the other chairs I'm testing so give me a second wait nevermind that's the only feature so the seat panel can slide back and forth and that's the only feature now this is where I really you must pay attention. because this is where some of the cons of this chair come in, first things first, the mesh on the m favor is not as tight as something like the aeron and something like the m favor and it's good and it's bad, it's good because if you're looking for a very comfortable feel, the

neue

will feel a little more comfortable than air because in the aeron the mesh is so tight it feels like you're sitting on it like it's a bouncy rubber band right, it's that tight, it's nice , it is quite taut, right on this, you will sink a little more and honestly it is not bad, it feels very good, when you sit on it it feels very very good, although the disadvantage is that there is a really foam pad aggressive in the front here that if you are on the heavier end of that 240 pound limit, you will feel it a little more aggressively in your thighs than if you were on the lighter end again 174 pounds and I start to feel it too after a long time , now there are a couple of ways around this, which again has more disadvantages.

This gets a little more complicated. The first thing you can do is go ahead and pull off the seat panel. Go out like I showed you before and you'll be fine, because then the pad won't sit as aggressively on the thigh area. The other thing you can do is you and this is what you generally want to do. Anyway, it's true, you probably want to put a footrest on the bottom, so, because an ideal ergonomic position is that your leg should never hang off the front edge, it should be raised a little bit anyway, actually It should be a little more than 90 degrees.

So pretend I am, you know I have afootrest, this may be a little high, but if I'm here, then that pad doesn't dig into my thighs as much, so that's something you might want to consider like Okay, and the third thing you can do to avoid pain here if you start to feel it or the discomfort is that you may be an ergonomics rebel. Now this chair is big enough to accommodate an ergonomics rebel and because it has padding on all edges. This won't be uncomfortable on your toes if you're a shoeless person. don't wear shoes at home don't wear shoes when you sit in your chair so if you're like me and you just got some really cool dragon socks, I don't know if you can see that this is something you can do to prevent it from not being the perfect solution but again I think mesh is very difficult to implement and for 600 you might find that you wish they had done it better but keep in mind that the aeron is a thousand dollars more and i think they have done it perfectly the only thing is you don't get much flexibility because you can't cross your legs in a chair like this, moving now to the lumbar support, the lumbar support in the The noise starts in the lower middle back and then you can raise it a little bit more to the middle of the back and then you can make it more aggressive than it already is.

For me personally I find that I like my lumbar support to start lower if So this is the revamped aeron with posture adjustment lumbar support and this is the neues and you can see the lumbar on the neues starts to have Sense higher compared to the Aeron lumbar support, so not my favorite lumbar support, but that's me personally. Now it's a personal thing to adjust the lumbar support. On this we are going to focus everything that I just told you before because it is not easy to do, so the first thing you can do is raise the lumbar support and the way you do it is There is like a little plastic thing, a little curve that you can feel back there and you can grab it and just pull it up and you'll feel the pad extend up so that's the first thing you can do and the second thing.

It's really hard to do, there are two buttons here on the side of the new one and what you do is press them with your thumbs and then with your middle finger push the top plastic pad forward and if you do that the seat will basically fit . It protrudes forward and the lumbar becomes a little more aggressive. Now this for me is a little too aggressive and again the way you reset it is you just press the buttons and it will just go back so the standard lumbar is better for me and me. I like lumbar rays so I have more vertical coverage of my spine, so in a nutshell, the lower back moves towards the arms.

They can be adjusted vertically by simply pulling them up. There is no button to press. You just turn it and you can hear it click and if you want to move it down you have to lift it all the way up and then it will go down on its own so that arm adjustment is not ideal. I wish there was a way to be a little more precise because I'll never know if the arms are perfect, even unless you're counting the ticks, which can be hard to do, so that's the vertical adjustment, uh, the hor, I mean the vertical aspect, and then they can also be civilized and unlike 90 of the chairs.

Minus the Hermann Miller civilian arm is actually decent, as you actually get a good amount of space when you turn them out, center and in. The only adjustment I wish these arms had is if they could be adjusted outwards. a little more because it feels a little claustrophobic in here, I wish there was a little more space. I also wish the arms would tilt with you when you go down because the tilt is very good, unfortunately these arms do not tilt with you. here they stay static at that level compared to more expensive chairs and they're generally a feature of more expensive chairs, but look at these arms, oh, you're going to help the arms move with you so, because 90 degrees when you are sitting upright so your arms are not 90 degrees when you are leaning back so these arms move with you, some other chairs that are reviewed also move with you unfortunately the new one doesn't so those are the adjustments the arms.

Now the star of the show here is what you call the secret laboratory. I forget. what they called it something changed, I forgot, I'll put it down here, but it's what I showed you before, the right one controls the height of the chair and if you sit down and push it, you go up and then you just push it. and you'll go down and then the second one will be the backrest tilt adjustment, you push it once, you push it once and you'll unlock the back and you can go unlimited and again if you want to tighten the tension, it's that small. rope bar on the right side and again it's an infinity lock which means anywhere you want to be you're like oh I really like this position you lock it and you're locked and it's great because again it's so accessible that it actually , I'm going to use it on some of these gaming chairs because they're so big that you have to lean back and you have to reach really far and turn like a knob down here, which makes it very hard to do and it's just nice.

For annoying here, this means I'll adjust endlessly until I'm super comfortable because it's so accessible. I really appreciate these little eyelash gestures. I wish there was more you could do with these things. I wish they could think of more. features, but that's the arms in a nutshell, now they move towards the headrest, okay, so a headrest, I'm realizing that all chairs suck, the neue chair does it better than anyone, but it's also because that you pay for it separately, some people might say oh. You have to pay for a headrest, that's ridiculous. These other chairs come with one.

Yeah, the problem is that all of those headrests really suck and I realize how good the Atlas headrests are after using all of these headrests from these other chairs, because well, let me explain why. Other headrests are bad first of all other headrests and I explain it at the end because they are static, you can't move them in or out because most headrests are so far back when you are sitting at 90 degrees that to use them with them you create that triple chin effect and it's like a really uncomfortable position and because they don't adjust forward unlike the

atlas

where you can put it, look at that range, it's ridiculous where you can move it as much as you want.

Of these headrests, the atlas is the only one where you can adjust the horizontal limit, where you can pull it towards you and it will move correctly, so there's that thing going forward and the part that sucks. It's just that the vertical adjustment is very difficult to do, so it's one of those, oh God, it's so loud and it scares me because on the headrest, like when I was trying to adjust it because it was so hard to do it, it slammed into my headrest. The spine of my neck here and it left the bruise for weeks so here it's a little easier to do but it's still very scary because you can't control it because you need a lot of strength so again one reason why these headrests just aren't great, but the fact that they can go down, the fact that you can adjust it back and forth a little bit, it doesn't actually move back and forth, you're moving it down, like this is the headrest, like you're turning it down. versus up like this and you can also rotate the headrest Atlas is very good because you can adjust in and out up and down and then you can rotate the front as well just these three axes are really clear and then the reason why the The headrest on the Atlas is good, but not perfect, because the angle like the angle of the headrest doesn't fit the curve of my neck well here, compared to something like the headrest on the Atlas, which again I realized how much ingenuity and how much thought went into the atlas headrest for the aeron series and that will soon be in the body series, guys, clap for that, um, but yeah, this is not bad, it's better, like I said, it's better than 80 of the others chairs that come with headrests, including mavics, including the city one.

I've tried including the final favor, including all these other chairs, better than most, not as good as the atlas for air in the series, although okay guys, that pretty much sums up this chair, so again, for five hundred six hundred dollars, is it worth it? I would say yes if you're looking for a new chair and you're looking for a chair that can do it all, that can give you real lumbar support compared to some of the gaming chair counterparts that can give you that kind of support. Leaning back like, oh wow, that leaning back thing like it's really well made and the build quality is pretty decent, like there's nothing I'm worried about breaking and you'll compare it again later to some of these other chairs. faces that I'm worried about, but it feels like a very solid chair.

Unfortunately, they don't design it in a larger size. I wish they would make it for my older friends, but yes, I would highly recommend this chair because I think it can do it all. You can do it all and you need to raise the headrest because of the ability to be able to lean back and lock the chair now like I said at the beginning, although when I

pick

it up on this setup here, again it's like a used aeron. This is a refurbished used aero with the Atlas headrest that will cost you around 600. Is it better than this?

I will say that it can give it a run for its money in terms of pure ergonomics. No, I think this chair is going to work. provide a better ergonomic seating experience for most people, some people hate the aeron and I understand that no, Aaron is not made for everyone, but I think this will give them a better overall experience in terms of ergonomics, but what not can do is you can't change from an ergonomic chair to a comfortable chair like the neue can and that means a lot to certain people and it means a lot to me and that's why I don't know how to say this, but I'm glad I have both chairs.

My wife loves this chair, so if I want to see something, I'll give her my body for a minute and steal this chair from her, so yeah, with all that being said, I hope. You guys like this video use my affiliate links below if you want to grab the noya chair or any secret lab chair until next time love you all stay safe and as always be honest.