Man Drives 100+ Miles For Birth Of Child That Woman Says Isn't His (Full Episode) | Paternity Court
You may be seated. Hello, Your Honor. Hello. This is the case
of Miller v. Rasmussen. Thank you, Jerome.
Good day, everyone. AUDIENCE: Good day. JUDGE LAKE: Ms. Miller,
you are here to prove
to your ex-boyfriend, Scotty Rasmussen,
that
he is not the father of your three-year-old daughter Zaylie Rasmussen. Yes, Your Honor. JUDGE LAKE: You claim, you have been in an ongoingcourt
battle over custody and have petitioned thecourt
several times for a DNA test, all of which have been denied.Yes, Your Honor. JUDGE LAKE: Mr. Rasmussen,
you claim the real reason Ms. Miller is denying
you're Zaylie's father is because she hates you. Yes, Your Honor. You say, you've been there
for your daughter
her entire life and you are
here today to prove you are Zaylie's father. RASMUSSEN: Yes, Your Honor. All right, Mr. Rasmussen,
why is Ms. Miller saying you are not Zaylie's father? Your Honor, I believe
it's out of pure hatred. RASMUSSEN: She doesn't want
me to have
visitation. I drive 160
miles
, every other weekend just to pick up my daughter and drop her off. Over...That
's about 10,000miles
. RASMUSSEN:That
's wear and tear on my car. She doesn't have a driver's license, she doesn't have any way to bring her to me. She doesn't have any way to meet me halfway. JUDGE LAKE: You say she hates you? RASMUSSEN: Yeah, she hates me. Why would... Why does she hate you? She hates me because at the end of the relationship when things gotrocky,
I'll admit it, I did
go to another
woman
. I will be the first to admitthat
. You know, it was my mistake. JUDGE LAKE: Isthat
true, Ms. Miller? No. It's not? MILLER: No. It's not at all. Tell me, what you believe to be true in this situation? Yes, I was very mad at him for being a cheater. He cheated on me through pretty much our whole relationship. No, I do not hate him because ofthat
. I lost my respect for him, yes. JUDGE LAKE: Hesays
, this is about visitation too. Heloves his daughter
but you don't want him to have
the visitation, is
that
true? Yes, Your Honor. JUDGE LAKE: Why isthat
? Because I believethat
the only reason why he wants the visitation, is to claim her on his taxes. (STAMMERING)That
is the furthest thing from the truth. I... I want my visitation because my daughter means the world to me. I want to be in her life as much as I possibly can. I mean if he is driving 160miles
each way every other weekend, the money he gets in his taxes, heis
spending in gas. RASMUSSEN: I am paying
my
child
support. I have mychild
support payments right here. RASMUSSEN: Plus an additional $3 fee, plus an additional $60 annual fee. Just to pay mychild
support. JUDGE LAKE: You pay $50 a week. RASMUSSEN: Just under $50 a week. Plusthat
$3 with every check. Plus another $60 every year to the State. Andthat
's not very much to get what she needs. Is it... I mean at the end of the month... Is it enough to buy her clothesso she
doesn't have to wear cut-off sweat pants and
the same T-shirt every
time I pick her up? I do
that
. Because... I don't want... It's just what it is. Is it enough money to buy her underwear so you don't gotta keep putting her in diapers at four years old? MILLER: I have underwear for her. And she is not in diapers, she is in pull-ups. She is in training right now. She is having problems. RASMUSSEN: She is not... But what he's saying, Ms. Miller, is... It's clearlynot about
money, if he's paying
his
child
support. And he also spends money, coming to see her. What is this really about for you? Why is it you don't want him involved in thischild
's life? Because I still believethat
he is not hers. Okay, and listen,that
's what we're here for. I want to get down to the bottom of the truth. Yeah. You don't believe he is her biological father. Yes, Your Honor. JUDGE LAKE: So explain to me why? MILLER: When shewas
conceived, she was
conceived in March of 2011, he wasn't even
in the same state. He was in Vegas. And at
that
time in March, I wasn't even with him. I was with somebody else. Because he broke up with me, because he cheated on me. I'll be the first to admit it, it was a mistake. Okay, we've gotten the factthat
you two have an on-and-off relationshipthat
has infidelity woven through. I understandthat
. Ms. Miller, you were stating to thecourt
that
you were intimate withsomeone else and you believe
that
you were intimate withthat
other person during the time Zaylie was conceived, and Mr. Rasmussen was all the way in Las Vegas. Yes, Your Honor. But, clearly at some point Mr. Rasmussen either thought or was informedthat
he was her biological father, because he is payingchild
support, he's still driving 160miles
each way, and she has his last name. Yes. JUDGE LAKE: Mr. Rasmussen, fill me in, at what point were you ever toldthat
you were not her biologicalfather. I believed, I was...
And still believe, I was
the only biological father until about five or six months
or so, give or take
after she was born. We were at family
court
, talking to the familycourt
commissioner, about custody and the thingsthat
go along withthat
. Like where she would be going to school, her doctor and allthat
. And Ms. Miller brings it upthat
, I could possibly not be the father because of another manthat
was involved and she gave some date, I can't remember thespecifics. But one of the, uh, people
we were talking to with
the family
court
commissioner, did the math and it turns outthat
it would be a 10-month pregnancy andthat
don't make sense to me. Because it was so far, it was so long ago, I was confused about the dates. But nowthat
I went through both of our Facebooks, I went through all of my notes, all of anything I wrote down, and I figured outthat
she was conceived in March and it was a nine-month pregnancy. JUDGE LAKE: So, Mr.Rasmussen,
up until Zaylie was five
or six months old, you believed
you were the only
possible biological father.
That
is correct, we never broke up, there was never any,that
I could recall, there was never any split there. There was, the relationship was on and off in a sense but we never... But bythat
time she was born, so, she already had your name. She already had my name. Did you sign thebirth
certificate?That
is correct. Your name is on thebirth
certificate. I havethat
right...Jerome, hand me
that
, please. I havethat
right here, my name is onthat
birth
certificate. So, you're on thebirth
certificate. RASMUSSEN: Yeah, I was at... You were at thebirth
? I was at thebirth
. I was at every single doctor's appointment. When Zaylie was born, you were at the doctor's appointment. I was at home because I had to workthat
day. I was at my job as a cashier. I got a phone call and I answered it. They said she was going into labor. I said,"Okay,"
I hung up the phone. I quickly finished up
as fast as I could with
that
particular customer. I turned off my checkout light, told the next customer in linethat
something came up and they'd have to go in another line. I went up to my manager, my immediate supervisor, said, "Hey, I gotta go, my girlfriend's in labor." I went home, quickly changed my clothes and I drove about 45miles
through a windy, wooded road. In Wisconsin, in December, mind you, so it'sabout a foot
of snow on the ground. I made it to
that
hospital in less than 35 minutes. I beat her to the hospital. And I was there from the moment she got there, to the moment she was discharged. I called my boss at work and said, "Hey, I gotta take some days off, "I don't care if you fire me or whatever but I got to stay here. "My daughter's being born." MILLER:That
's...That
's a lie. After she was born...That
was an amazing story. You saythat
wasa lie? Yes, it is. (LAUGHS) How do you remember it? After she was born,
he was gone. He ran out of the room,
I didn't see him for 20 minutes after
that
. While I was in labor, he was sitting on one of those hospital cot beds on his computer, in the corner not paying attention to me, in his own little bubble. RASMUSSEN: I admit I was on my computer butthat
was far from it. I had to find a way to calm myself because I was so excited to be a father. How often does a man beat thewoman
to thehospital. Do you dispute, Ms. Miller,
that
he was excited about this beautiful little girl being born? MILLER: I really didn't see much excitement. JUDGE LAKE: You didn't? MILLER: No. Did he beat you to the hospital? Yes, because I had to wait for my aunt to come and get me. What was the problem exactly? You let him sign thebirth
certificate. I gavethat
baby... I gave my daughter my last name. Because we were engaged. And I thought we were going to get married. I thought we were goingto
have a happy life, and raise
our daughter together. Until about three months
after she was born, one of his friends
told me everything
that
he was doing throughout our entire relationship, cheating on me. Going to multiple places to meet multiple girls. And afterthat
I was just... Done. Where is this other possible father? I'm not even quite sure. After we broke up, he changed his number, he moved, he pretty much disappeared. MILLER: I have tried to find him, I have tried to get ahold ofhim and I can't find him. JUDGE LAKE: But you keep
saying, Mr. Rasmussen cheated. He did this, he did
that
, and as wrong asthat
may be, you also slept with somebody else. We weren't even dating then. I was single atthat
time. Because he was with this other lady and I was the side chick. Which I didn't even really know about. All of this is happening and this man is continuing to step up to the plate like he has a daughter on the way. Like he has a newborn baby girl. Even throughthe breakup, you all are making custody
and visitation arrangements. But you know
deep down there is
another possible father. MILLER: Yes, Your Honor. Why wait so long to tell him? I told him the first time
that
we had ourcourt
dates. But thecourt
s threw it out. Even before you tell anybody incourt
. What about just telling him? JUDGE LAKE: I wanna understandthat
. Why was itthat
you were keeping this information so close to your hip, until five, six months after Zaylie was born? The more shegrew up, the more I started noticing
more of her features, the more she started
looking like the other guy. She looks exactly
like I did when
I was three years old. I have a picture of me
when I was three and a picture of her
from just the other day. JUDGE LAKE: Let me see
that
. Will you handthat
to me, Jerome? Believe it or not, when I was three years old, I had blonde hair. JUDGE LAKE: So this is a picture of Zaylie on the left, and you, as achild
, Mr. Rasmussen, on theright.
That
is correct, Your Honor. JUDGE LAKE: And you say you see a distinct similarity. Yes, I do. Do you see it, Ms. Miller? MILLER: Mmm-mmm. I don't JUDGE LAKE: You don't? You feel like Zaylie looks like the other gentleman you were intimate with. Yes. Look our... We even have the same chin. I am just noticingthat
now. Our chin looks exactly the same. We have the same dimples. JUDGE LAKE: You are insistingthat
Mr. Rasmussen is not thechild
's father. And yet,you're receiving
child
support from Mr. Rasmussen. Have you petitioned thecourt
to have Mr. Rasmussen taken off ofchild
support? MILLER: I have told him a couple of timesthat
if he would just sign her over to me then he wouldn't have to paychild
support anymore. I'm not going to dothat
. If he would just... I'm not going to give upthat
easy. I'm fighting for what I know is mine. I know she is mine. (AUDIENCE APPLAUDING) JUDGE LAKE: So, Mr. Rasmussen, what type ofvisitation
do you have right now? RASMUSSEN: Right now it's, um,
every other weekend. But I've had to
jump through so many hoops
to get to this point. At first it was
that
fly by night, just make a date whenever you want to and, you know, go from there. But obviously,that
didn't work. And then, sometime afterthat
, we started out where I had to sit with Ms. Miller and my daughter at a park for four hours, once a week, for four weeks. And then afterthat
, I got her for fourhours, once a week, for four weeks
by myself without
her involvement. And then after
that
, I got her for one overnight a week, for four weeks and then after those four weeks, then I got what I have now. How is your relationship with Zaylie? Oh, it's phenomenal. Um, every time I get her, we try to make the best I can out of it even if I don't have any money from having to put gas in the car and pay thechild
support and everything. I try to do as much as I can with her, whether it besomething as little as going to the park or
going fishing, or going to, you know,
an amusement attraction. Every little memory
at
that
age means more than anybody can possibly fathom. And I just try to make the absolute best out of what I can with what I have. So, Mr. Rasmussen, let me ask you, are you prepared, have you prepared yourself either way, if thischild
is my biologicalchild
or if she isn't? Have you thought about both alternatives? In a sense, yes, if it goes the way I am hopingand I know in my heart
that
it will,that
she is mine, I'm just going to be overjoyed,that
all the drama and fighting and allthat
kind of stuff is behind me. If it goes the other way, I don't think if I had all the time in the world, I could, you know, prepare myself for such a bombshell. I don't think I'd be able to prepare myself for just how devastatingthat
would be. Not only me but my entire family. Jerome, I think it's time for the results. JEROME: Okay. Thank you.These results were prepared
by DNA Diagnostics
and they read as follows. I am fighting for
what I know is mine. JUDGE LAKE: In the case of
Miller v. Rasmussen, when it comes to
three-year-old
Zaylie Rasmussen, it has been determined
by this
court
, Mr. Rasmussen, you... Are not the father. (MILLER EXCLAIMING) Ms. Miller. Be respectful. I'm sorry. JUDGE LAKE: Ms. Miller. I'm sorry.That
's a lot of nerve, considering the alternative is somebodythat
don't want nothing to dowith you or your
child
. MILLER: I'm sorry.That
's a lot of nerve! You just showed me where your priorities were, right there. I'm sorry. Because I held out hope.That
you weren't just acting a fool, because you so mad at him, 'cause he cheated on you,that
you would cheat yourchild
out of a father. Butthat
cheering you did... What you cheering? I'm a single mother with nobodythat
loves me or mychild
! What are you cheering for? MILLER: I'm not. No, you were! He isover here
breaking down because
he loves this
child
so much. I sit here day after day after day with women hoping a man would drive 16miles
to see their baby, much less 160miles
each way. And abide by acourt
order and signed abirth
certificate and come day after day and week after week so they can grow visitation to have a relationship with thechild
. And you have no compassion? For not just him but for Zaylie. She is three years old. JUDGE LAKE: Now, he is not just gonna beheartbroken, we gotta break
this news to her! And you are all over here
cheering like it's a sport. JUDGE LAKE:
This is this baby's life. And I asked you,
"Where is this other man?" "I don't know." And you know he don't want
nothing to do with you. Sitting up there cheering! Mr. Rasmussen, I am so sorry. I know this hurt you. Thank you, Your Honor. RASMUSSEN: I don't know what
I'm going to do. She's my whole world.
Everything I do is
for her. I... She was the reason
I went to work every day. I know you have
a bond with her. I feel like my whole world
is in ruins now. Ms. Miller, I'm gonna
say this to you before
I adjourn
court
. JUDGE LAKE: Yourchild
deserves to know who her father is. Whether or notthat
man wants to be in her life, physically present, and participate, he does have a legal obligation to help support her financially. It's importantthat
you make this right. She'll one day ask, "Where is myfather?" Every action you take
from this point, will write the story