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Kevin Chiles on His Rise & Fall as a Harlem Drug Kingpin (Full Interview)

May 31, 2021
age in 2020, it just won't work well, that's not even the goal for me for the most part. I'm not saying that at that moment. of the circumstances were right and I did what I thought I had to do to take care of myself and then at some point my family and then it just multiplied and reached beyond what yes, but what I'm saying is what what did you do. In the 80s it is not possible, there is really no technology, cameras, cell phones that can triangulate where you were and children have opportunities now that we did not have a day, how did it feel to leave that prison after a decade?
kevin chiles on his rise fall as a harlem drug kingpin full interview
I know I didn't spend a lot of time in prison like you know, I was fortunate, as you said, to found Dundee maybe five or six years later, so I spent a lot of time living vicariously through other people's experiences, so my body was dead, but my mind wasn't, you know, I was always thinking about what am I going to do because I've never worked in my life like I had a summer youth job as a kid for a few months and here I am getting out of jail in my 30s, what? I'm going to do?
kevin chiles on his rise fall as a harlem drug kingpin full interview

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Wait, you came out in 2004, so from 1994 to 2004 I officially finished, yeah, you know, I got half of it in half a year, but officially in 2004, okay, you ate up half a year, you're right, did I ever say yes. what had changed the most in the world once you got back to it, um technology for me, yeah I mean missiles, our phones weren't available, I mean their network wasn't that big. I remember having two things. I went to the motor vehicle because I had to get my ID and get my whole face together and I remember I had to take my driving test on the computer and I remember how hard it was because when I left we had accounting stuff and little things like that , but I think I had more trouble taking a test than because of course I know how to drive, but you know the technology, the advancement of technology, yeah, I remember talking a little bit.
kevin chiles on his rise fall as a harlem drug kingpin full interview
D, he was a crack king from Oakland, yeah, we did a story on you. We just started, we did it, yeah, and when I asked him what the difference was, he said, Well, he said when I got out I'd be walking the streets and people would be talking on their cell phones and they'd run into each other and they just wouldn't. recognize that the other person just walked out, he said in prison, if they run into each other and don't recognize that person, that could be the last thing they do, that's a fact, I was in another world, man, like I was the look, the look.
kevin chiles on his rise fall as a harlem drug kingpin full interview
That was on me, I was like a person you just let out of a cave. I mean, that's how long I was away, when I saw all these people on the iPhone with a hairnet texting and bumping into each other, it scared me. man because because it was like that, these people moved so fast, okay, and then in prison you have to be nice, man, you have to say sorry if you run into someone, man, you know, you have to say, excuse me, you have a, You have You know, because it's a matter of respect, so when I see you, you know that you guys hit each other with the air.
I don't, we're not weirdos and I think, man, that's crazy, you know. I remember talking to Shyheim. about this and he said yeah, I mean standing in line, you know, and you know, in line to get food because okay, you have to handle that right then and there and there's a dirty look on everything that you're living in. a situation where violence and death could break out at any moment no, I'm just the slightest level of disrespect it's a wall jumping me in a line it's war good in a fight I'm standing in line going to somewhere and here you come I could be at the police station line taking my bag here, you come, why don't you see me sitting here so fast, so fast, you know or just me, you know, I'm saying that someone is looking at you, you come across honest, like If you were looking, would you look? the instant they do it, it's a lot longer than me too, let's show him at six years old, oh, I did it, yeah, well, I don't know what his experience was, but in one case a little D, I know, but just oh yeah, little D D. like thirty right, so in his answers I can identify it, but for me, like I said, he lived outside of a person, he was just there so that you never get caught up in the things or the emergency politics that I was trying to get back.At home, I mean, my focus and my attention was on reading, moving forward, you know, just figuring out what I'm going to do with my life because again I had a date and it was right around the corner.
It had been almost three years now and I was just struggling. oh yeah seven more than five technically five is regulated okay so I see what you're saying is not okay so you know I wasn't focused on the politics and bureaucracy of all that nonsense. I mean, they claim you made $40 million in

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sales, okay to do that and get away with eight and a half years, not a bad deal, no, and I think the number was very conservative, so I agree. Oh, you think it was more than 40 million? Do the math, when? I told you what's happening from the beginning, what do you think the number was?
I don't know, you know the more money you make, the more nonsense you find and you know? I'm telling you, just like you said, that you can only spend it like this. in so many different ways, like so, what was the most ridiculous thing you ever bought? I just think he ran with an entourage all the time, like you know, every time he did something, it was 10 of something like, you know, that's exactly what it was. I want 10 people on vacation with that, you're paying for everyone, everyone and not for the guy who was making money from me, but just for my extended family.
Again, that's why when I think about it I mean for a lot of people you don't

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a lot of people and that's why they call it the golden age, like there are some people who just can't get beyond that because They're It's better that the lies are behind it because they've never experienced anything like that and to support that, even with these rappers, you just see how to recreate that, if someone music and some of their fashion, because it was just talked about, it was just that . It was intoxicating, you knew it well because all the rappers wanted to be

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dealers and he wanted to look like him, they wanted to dress like that, especially during that time because we were young, look at the kids I came looking at, yeah.
Looking at older guys, but we were young, you know, yeah, well, Kevin, he had an amazing life, yeah, and you know, he still had a long life ahead of him. Absolutely, it seems like you are

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y aware of everything that happened. You took responsibility for absolutely everything that happened and you know, even down to your mother, as horrible and tragic as that situation is, you have to put some of that blame on the lifestyle. I put everything into it, you know, and it's a tough pill to swallow. swallow I'm living with it yeah currently you know you could say yeah it was these other guys and it's whatever but it's like you were a normal guy working on you yeah and that mother would still be working on the bench and it's a fact, yes, it's a fact that it's difficult, it absolutely is, yes, I haven't gotten over it, yes, and I doubt I ever will.
Your father is still alive. Yes, how does your father accept that part? You know, I'm sure the burden on that isn't. my father, my brother too, you know, yes, you know, although you know if that's the only thing I can't understand, you know, the rest that I can live with is part of what happens, but that's it. Just the only thing you know is that I can't understand it, yeah, okay, I appreciate you coming and I think it's really cool how you took that life that you lived and turned it into Don diva able to spin, you know?
I think that's the mark of a real hustler, yeah you know it's one thing to be good at something and keep doing it and eventually it fades away and then you're broke at the end and you know, but to be able to be great at something and then do let that come to an end and then move on to something related and be great at that too because Don D, but I think it's a legendary post, I think it really was, I mean, I guess it's one of the most read posts in prison. Oh. Absolutely, yes, you know that and you know how to take your experiences and your values ​​and create a media company around it, which is something I've done too, wouldn't you?
Yes, yes, I think it's silly and not easy to do. It's a fact, believe me, it's not easy to do and I think you had a very authentic voice, right? and what you do is very unique, you know, it's different than a flat TV or an American gangster or anything else, and you know I wish you the best for you, your children, I'm sure they're definitely your father, your aunts, your cousins, you know and you're just a silver lining, you know, you became a drug dealer, but your brother actually went to Columbia University, yeah, they did.
It's one of the Ivy League one of the best universities in the country the world's entry into the world right, yeah, I went to UC Berkeley myself and I have a degree like that. I am very proud of what will help him throughout his life. He absolutely does not have will exactly what he dedicates himself to. He's actually in private industry now, but he actually coached basketball for St. John's and a lot of prestigious schools, but it's good, you know, and I'm sure by doing what you had to do, you were able to help him financially to that I didn't have to go in and then end up going to prison and lose that whole opportunity so you could at least see that situation, oh I've done it and that's just it was a driving force, like everything I did was for a reason , you know, okay, I appreciate you coming, I appreciate you inviting me, oh yeah, thank you.

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