Joshua Maponga on LGBTQ + Agenda, ZIM politics, Christianity Brainwash and moreAug 06, 2023
foreign, a little different, straight to the topic today. I'm accompanied by someone I'm a big fan of. I find him to be a very beautiful mind, psychologically eccentric, the WE giant and the previous generation, the current great generation stands on his shoulders to see. the future is with me the former bishop uh greetings greetings to you and all your viewers around the world ah thank you thank you thank you thank you so let's get right into it do you think that we as a people are the karanga? people have a problem with dealing with the truth and accepting and distributing the truth the truth do you have a problem with the truth?
It is not a karanga problem maybe it is a human problem there are two important words that I will have to share with you they are small words but they are big if you understand the depth of those words, the number one word is Secret, secret, it is information that is kept away from people for whatever reason, so you hide that information from them and only share it with those you think are worth that information and timing is everything, but the second word is sacred, sacred is information that you keep away from people, It is only given to those who are meant to experience it, so when you look at the culture, particularly the Karanga culture, then you want to understand what are the secrets of the tribe and what are the sacred themes around the tribe, so there are things of Those of us who don't talk to students of certain ages and to certain girls of certain ages, not because they don't need to know. that information, but they don't need it because they're not going to experience it, you get that information and you get there, so when you start looking at the karanga form and the proverbial idioms and things like that, it actually means that We can talk to these kids while we talk about things and only now you are a little awake here, but in your initial spaces those things are talked about beyond the children who do not have the necessary experience around the topics, so yes.
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From my own perspective, the answer could be yes and no, it is a culture that is not just spoken, it is a culture that is experienced, so the reason I ask you the truth question first is because this conversation is going to be very sincere. Some of the truths that we're going to discuss in this conversation are going to be very offensive to some viewers, some are going to be very liberating to some viewers, and there's a word that you mentioned when you explained that you said "um, you." I talked about walking, walking, counting, where did I keep listening to it during work?
What is this work culture? Is it good for us as a society or is it bad for us? What's going on in this whole thing? No, the whole idea is Our eyes are useless when the mind is closed, so the idea of work almost has to marry. When you see my eyes open, it also means that my pineal gland, my mind is also open and can be taught, adapting, growing, developing, although in some cases, the idea of work. it's being marketed in the sense of metrosexual, meaning people who have become, you know they have alternative lifestyles, so this whole
lgbtqthing, whatever it is, if you're reading from an American space, they actually want to flag it. like work culture, you know, so if you don't already.
I don't understand how homosexuality works. You know you're not working, so it almost feels like you're moving brains to the back of the human body. It should happen
moreat the top than at the bottom. I like I like. I like it, I like that you touched on the
lgbtqpart and you know they could have had a better word, you know, they call it when what they call pride month I think it should be humility month, but that's a story for another day What is your position? And in this emergence of this first ideology and thought about us, you know that you are
morelikely to see an lgbtq more a couple on your media screen than a black family.
Happy on screen, can you explain what the current state of things is as they are now? The media is propaganda and those who sit behind the screens to decide what to put on the screen know exactly what they want to portray when you watch. um, Africans in black people in movies, in some certain cases, you actually put it on the set to go and get killed there, the movies just start, the first guy to leave, you know he's a black guy, he's a black guy there, unless he is the lead actor and when you look at even European films, once you start portraying your royalties from the American or British space, look at the role of the black person, servants and slaves must always appear, the ones who they bring food and other things over and over again when If you watch some of the movies, especially if you know the South African side, when you talk about noir movies, it's either witchcraft, it's thunder, it steals Steve's taxes and, very, very, very deliberate, they never invent us, they are never the heroes that they always barely see as useful.
Rightly said, you hardly see a representation of a mother, father, daughter and son growing up living together. What you are saying must always be dysfunctional. Have you seen how Russians and Chinese are portrayed in every movie? Try to moderate the situation. aggressive nuclear weapons and on the Chinese and it is deliberate but now that we have the media in our own hands as Africans we must be careful of falling into that journey of popular norms and propaganda that is condescending to African culture and these people and and as such, the representation of the family becomes the construction of a family, the destruction of the family in terms of the media also becomes the destruction of the family because people are impressionable, people work with perceptions and the quality of the perceptions one expresses about what Is this what I mean?
If you look at this in the LGBT space before the media, if the media wasn't there this would be taboo, but little by little it has been incorporated into the media and what was once unacceptable is now getting some warmth and western steel that actually comes from According to my own experience, some of the most important Mongolians in the media space have homosexual behavior. I want to give up a slight recoil and I want to play Devil's Advocate on that. um, you think people can be born albino, right? A joint effect, you know, and and and and and and and that's only partly pigmentation and you know, biological and you just know, do you think someone can be born because they say they're written in the wrong word?
Do you think that chemically and harmonically our binurism can occur? in the I hear you, that's a very simplistic way of looking at it. I'm just saying, I mean, let me continue with that, we need to start discussing agriculture issues, okay, we need to start discussing chemical tempering issues. the degeneration of human genes at the expense of health and etc. there is a research that I once saw the other day when some frogs that were drinking chlorinated water in a pool subject who actually ended up being homosexual including the beds you can go to and Google that investigates you I'll find it in things, so you can actually, through food, alter the human gene, as much as you know, fluoride, for example, actually benefits the brain, these colgates that we eat and imagine how much Colgate you have to take every day and in fact it creates as a whole is the brain and when you look when we start to have a problem where our diet, our genes, our forms of contraception, our medications that we are consuming for the last 100 years are starting to show some flaws in In terms of genetic makeup and body composition, do we move forward to argue that it should be legalized or do we take a step back to figure out what we are not doing right in terms of teaching and healing the illness? human body, so yes our business is there, yes there are people with two organs and it seems like there are more every day, so is it a matter of I was born that way or that as a smart community we needed to step back a little ? a little and say: aren't we marketing our diets too much?
Etc., aren't we eating too many soft foods and drinking these things? What is it in our diet that is actually moderating this? So we have a society that is cognitive for us. just to become reactive now there's a problem before we even know what the problem is no let's legalize it let's make it normal so we want us to think first before we can react okay it's like you know like um uh the two instances. that happened recently, I think yesterday or today in Indonesia, the Indonesians were where they were bad, the delegation for lgbtq rights, they said no, not here and then in Uganda, they are receiving Flay, the guy is being criticized for saying that we want to tolerate this.
My question then is why is this at the top of the priority list instead of people who are dying with women's wars, uh, hunger, like what people do in the bedroom, why is it the
agendathat They force you to swallow, that's what I've always done. He tempted the arrogance of the Americans who are in the United Emirates, in China, in Indonesia and in other parts of the world where even human rights are violated, it is not a problem, they were in Afghanistan the other day, where women are not even allowed . To work, those are human rights in proportion to all the spaces in which you reach the Middle East, where people are even stunned and killed, not that they are, they are being stunned and killed.
Number seven just enacted the law that says: "I will do it if you are caught, it will be that he has not done anything yet in the entire Western world, he wants, he wants to run and throw to catch him, we only understand the
agendaof the Americans and their hypocrisy at that level, you would rather be discussing marital issues. you know, flavors, when people are sick, when there are wars, black lives matter in America, where children die in America, where black people are deprived of their rights in the United States and they haven't even finished fixing the mess they caused in Libya, we're not even done talking about that and all these wounds that the United States is creating around the world in these human rights, is this the concept of democracy?
You become militarily strong and then you run around the world, you force them to use your money, you force them to eat your diet, you force them to eat your news in propaganda, on top of that you start telling them when they should have children, who they should talk to, what countries they should visit, what countries they should not visit, the currency they should use, ultimately, I want. to tell us who to sleep with and who not to sleep with, then you start to see this word called cultural cultural sodomy of the highest level. This becomes a very harsh word, but the rejection I will give is when you know as I interact.
With some people in this community in this country they always seem to come to this conclusion, yes, but these are the same Madras who connect with us after hours. I'm sure you know that after eight. I have heard about him in Durban, in fact, he said yes, in public, we could come and say no, no, we encountered this, but the same madadas were saying no, no, no, no, to the same people as in They are actually dating these people, so how do we fix it? this double standard again and it's historically because you know there are people that other older people are talking about.
I said oh we knew you know like in the past you knew this one and this one was there and you know it, but we never looked. rightly, rightly, soon, we are not here to tolerate or refute the existence of these behaviors in the past, what is worrying is the core of the community where life exists for continuity and processes of moral and ethical behavior so that we can have a society that is functional my argument is still there as to what people do in and out of business hours, that is a conversation for another day, but can we allow the center to maintain what is the call, what is the family and if we find that many of us are getting involved in these things again, the issue must now be even more complex because we are now dealing with the fragmentation of the male species, the egos of the male species, the pressures that the male child is under. finding, what are the causes, what is that? it's making men these days feel more confident with men and with women it's this it's this it comes as a social problem it comes as a matter of understanding we play football together we go to the gym together you know we do our boxer injections together and It's possible that actually women are becoming more aggressive to the point where men are saying hey, um, no, no, so you know, I like the way you're approaching this point and I just wanted to uh, there's a also ask because you We're even saying it's because women are becoming more masculine and it seems like right now women are women.
Now it is, it's easier for a man now to just be in a woman's space and walk in. a relationship and you're not getting into trouble because why are young men now afraid toget marry? What are the issues surrounding that? But what I'm saying is what I'm trying to do. What I'm trying to ask is that. um, you know now you have women being a masculine man, they tell you that you're toxic, right, um, your dogs, and then feminism is coming in and acting like it's a new phenomenon, which, from an African context, it's oh , we.
I've always known that we're taking off of all kinds, whether we're talking about you know or well, come on, it goes back to years and years that women have been in and we've never had a problem, we've never had this gender war between Men and women, what is your opinion on the current state of feminism and this uttar? If you go to the gym and say no, this is nonsense because you are a toxic man and you need me to prove the term. you know get in touch with your family inside no, I don't have a feminine inside I'm a man, uh, what's your takeover?
What is the position on that? Very interesting, very interesting, that you bring up that point of feminism and protecting girls to work in some of the programs that I have seen happening in South Africa. agenda from the perspective of the United Nations seeping into the African Union, you know, you know the girls, the girls, a beautiful idea because they think and feel that the male child has always been outside, so here they are now as a society, they take to all the girls and Take them up the ladder and put them on the 16th floor. Now they are on the 16th floor.
They need husbands and the husbands are on the ground floor, so they need to get back down from those High Ash loans and come down now. Gender equity issues in the South African space. Preferential hiring of women comes first, so women can't do the business they can. They've been privileged, they've been given more opportunities in school, so you have this whole generation of very good women, but. when they are fine and now they want to look for marriages their marriages are not fine because now you have to leave and then they start telling you why should I worry about the sausage when I own the pig, you know and and you start to have this whole community of super women and I've worked with some of those spaces and those super women, some of them unfortunately it's about the sacrifice of their own homes, some sacrifice their husbands and children, two three months later, filming a A silly clash with the babysitters because of their career because these jobs, some of them are not as easy as women, they think that yes, they may have the aptitude to do these jobs, but the stress level, time, assignment, consistency, etc., must be in the way and there you are with a husband there and you there, so these homes are a problem, so we have had a generation of successful women who have successful homes, good for those successful women with broken homes, successful women with a bag full of sex. toys so you and again it's pathetic and I'm sorry that when some of these women get into positions of power and I said this and I was beaten very badly in South Africa, but I'll say it again, it's a shame that when some of these women get to the power, they are responsible for oppressing their female colleagues, they go there, they do not advance the preservation of women's gender within the corporate space, they go there to join the Macho Man, yes, you become the HRS that gives to your female colleagues two months, three months. maternity leave as if they did not understand that the mother needs at least a year Sweden has made that now one year for the husband one year for the wife so that at least during the two years the child can have a presence when the women come In space corporate, the theme should not be feminine.
The story is that women's issues are on the agenda because that's how the corporate space has been designed around men and suddenly when women join the fold, in some cases they get worse. that the men who are there, instead of transforming the environment, have become perpetrators of injustices against women, so, as I rightly said, you develop women, you leave men behind, those women must return and Look for men, so what do we do? all the children of a generation at the same rate a generation if a generation can be simply unfair you can cut this do not work like this for a couple of years after a couple of profits and pick up the children if we go to the same place we are going now, we might be able to come back in 10 more years in The Boy Child, you know, before we get into the question I really want to ask next, there's another question you asked us.
I want to make you talk about the child and I want to ask why you know you look at culture, especially in essays, you look at most cultures in the most formidable years of a young person it's like uh, 12 to 13 is again with teenagers and those things. Find out that you know want to go more, whatever it is, why in Zimbabwe that doesn't happen in our culture, what used to happen and how we are building these men, yes, we have that culture, we had that culture in some students, these guys They collect guys. for circumcision and things like that, my father was in the church space and then he ran away with me and stuff like that and then I had to do it myself, yeah, but yeah, it used to happen and how do you know that culture?
This is an educated trait because you even have the names of these ceremonies exactly what they are, so if you find out that the word is there in a culture like the Zulu culture, they would stop doing it during the times of Shaka, which is in the 18th century. , the reason is that Chaka wanted many boys to go to war and once they were circumcised, the process slowed down, so he canceled the entire circumcision story because he wanted to group people together for war and these movements also in migration when people were. stay here stay there some cultures disappear along the way as people travel and migrate with each other because it takes a stable community which then starts to preserve itself so yes it used to happen and it's a good process. and again, another day when I am excited, I will come and share with you that the culture that is practiced in the Bible, if you find people around the face of the Earth who practice those cultures, they are the owners of the text.
So your brother is dead, huh? So God says go and sleep with his wife so that his generation can continue a culture that understands and practices that they own the black book. Do you feel we have a shortage of male leadership? In African society there is a male leadership gap that exists intentionally, seen intentionally for business reasons. Colonial trade reasons why you can't have a nation that builds strong people who can lead governments by themselves and the colonial system needs people you can manage, not people who can think. and transform your community nonsense into a community it's actually easier to build beer gardens and for people to get drunk than to build leadership institutions it's easier to manage drunks than to manage sober ones I like how you use yourself, you came into the institution partly because that was my next question, why does it seem strange to us as Africans that we are not willing to pay and build our own institutions, your library, the embassy of this donation, the foundation of whoever, wherever we are we are basically building take out places and chickens in BLM, rightly you said how do we fix that?
The institutional level where we build our own libraries, we build our own schools, we build our own health facilities, you are looking at an African man like you, this starts early in life. Even if you now wake up with 10 million in your pocket, it's your money, honestly speaking, you will do what all the other men do, if you would go back to your lotion, build a library, I will count you among the hundred, it was the culture of learning the culture of investment in research, for example, look at the Faculty of Preservation of Sacred Sites, the culture of preserving our own history has not been taught to us, while in our previous generation it was part of our lifestyle, for Therefore, we can still find some of these artifacts, crafts and spaces where you can experience the culture.
Our modern generation studies away from itself, not in itself. Academic tourism in which you travel far from yourself to go explore the Germans, the Japanese, the British. Charlemagne is Napoleon Bonaparte and the walls of China, you come back and say yeah boy I was in school, man I was in school and how do you know I've been in school? reciting all these poems and so we learn more about each other than we learn about ourselves, actually, let's say it directly it's like uh, we are the only one um, we are the only culture that has that great success because of how far you can get away from your own people , there you have it, even look at when you make money.
The first thing you do is change direction change wife and uh then that's literally what made me not be able to enjoy what I've become I'm sorry for him and I'm sorry for him my future is not uh it's not a problem because everything what I want is the land my daughter will marry her land not him you always say that and you know when you talk about culture you know I was surprised because you have a Christian background and stuff and now you say that um and when I When I read your blog , you are very important in accountability, do you take responsibility while it is your bishop who leads a smear campaign against our culture?
That is our question about which we argue is true. I mean, maybe this is where he is. It's painful because you want to be sincere and honest. The preaching part. Actually, part of it was colonial preaching where you tell people what to wear, what to eat, how to do this and how not to do it. Stay away from this to basically become an advisory center for cultural disintegration and tell people as much as possible that they should become Eurocentric instead of becoming cultured, so it is a fact that the preaching part is unfortunate, the most part, tell me, sit in front. of any pastor who is preaching, if he finishes the sermon without telling the people how horrible the culture is and how horrible their internal behavior is, then that preacher didn't come home, you know, then he should always be condemning these things and even some things we don't know.
I understand, we call it witchcraft. This was the other day. I almost fell off my chair praying and even said something. The first words that came out of his mouth. You thank the ancestral spirits. They have done? Do you want this to relate to what for what unless you? In reality, we are referring to a document that really recognizes the genology of its magazines Daniel and join your ancestors and is the Bible, not that it does not cower around the questions of ancestors and then we do not believe in the ancestors, but you believe in the ancestors that through the god of Abraham, see Jacobs because of Isaacs and these sisters of the north, you don't want to put tombstones on your father's grave, but Abraham put a tombstone for his wife Sarah, yeah, because when it comes to this, right now, this Australian marketing.
Do you think it's a brand issue? Do you think it's a brand issue? Do you think it's a brand thing that we're not doing? Because in any storyteller and I know that people find it strange when I say maybe when I leave my house and they say no, no, people say: do you think it's a brand thing that people because everything that people Is it burning is the same business that I have been in churches? I mean, everything that is happening is when you talk about whether it is the same communion that you are having is, you know what I mean, everything is fine, so do you think that we as Africans have a branding problem? ?
The numbers 27 are 27 verse 28 verse 7. um and again the cultures that practice these things own the text, but when you expect a Eurocentric perspective, people who don't even understand these few illustrations that you've been given, you tell a woman white woman to tell you: go sleep with your brother's wife, you faint, you tell her to say: you know. take half a pinch of wine and pour it on the ground and then make some libation, but we Africans understand that this has deterred the problem of our dominance of the Eurocentric perspective in the British and European space where it is not just about culture in China but of the Economy of culture because if you can tell a man that you cannot access God without a jacket and a tie, the next thing you do is that a person wants to see God, you set up a store where you sell the jackets of the Bible, so you immediately begin. to see that it is not just a statement of faith that worries people, but it is actually the consequence of that statement of faith, it should not become an economy for you to start buying cakes for your weddings instead of because God He approves more of white weddings than he does something African and again he doesn't eat mahel because then you create your own beers, so we must understand that in reality culture is currency it is currency when you transform, since in culture to be like yourselfYou can take advantage of that transformation. because everything that they will behave and do and buy and eat and celebrate, you will provide those goods for them, so if your character is captured, the one who captured your culture captured your currency, but it's a sad state of affairs because why?
You said no? I totally understand that when and what I'm trying to come back to you and tell you it's a sales statement because you know the previous owners had a conversation with my brother here and then we're talking about uh the Moors and democracy and how they exported that, so it's like we civilize the world for the world to come and the foreign colonizers, who we are responsible as Zimbabwe for the colonization of the southern hemisphere, for whom we are responsible because through our mining and our gold dealings. in the 14th and 15th century with the Phoenicians with the Chinese and the Portuguese, then it was only through those traits that the world knew that there was a place somewhere in the south where the minds of King Solomon were, they were gold and etc., and when they came and found out that it was true, that's how they entered the South, so actually their availability of our raw materials and our strength became our weakness, it's just that we fell asleep at our job and we lost, we lost a lot of it. of glory. that we had and about a kiss of democracy, I would like to comment in passing that if you look at all the ancient civilizations and their sophistication, they were not made democratically, it was just leadership made, look at the pyramids of Giza and Sudan and Nigeria, look at the ruins of the Great Zimbabwe, you know, Matopian kingdoms and things like that all over the world, from the Chinese to the pyramids in Peru and the temples in the middle of Vietnam and everywhere else, those civilizations were not made democratically, including the countries that have more success they do not work in democracy what is needed is a dictatorship, but a benevolent dictatorship where a leader knows what he wants to do and has enough time in his life to implement those ideas, that is how Germany becomes strong because it is in dictatorship . of Hitler who turned an entire country into the machinery of and Germany benefits today from the background and solid foundation that Hitler laid.
Do you think we can? I love the work you do with thought farmers. I didn't really want to think too much about the farmers because everyone who puts a bag of 45 a few hours to ask them about the farmers, I thought, but I wanted to ask: can we have or can we build a university on the African traditional religion ATR and how we think because I passed for that bookstore, that bus stop a long time ago. I created a farmers' institution that people can now watch, laugh and play, but I'm not going to play. This is a visual training space for international people from all over the world. world where we are starting to filter information between graduates and the workplace where we are starting to see transformation, we are motivating for innovation and we are starting to drive Pan-Africans into a genuine Pan-African mindset, you know, with genuine respect and The reverence for our cultures as well, so what we see myself doing with the thought farmers in that space may seem like it's unofficial, but it's actually official because in the back office of that and in the inboxes, the books that have been written so far. the businesses that have been established so far the networks that have occurred in that space the innovations that have emerged are immeasurable maybe one day when I die people will jump out of those corners and start saying this is how my life has changed and then back with back I have also created a library, a huge library, you will find it in a telegram, thought farmers, you already know others for the Book Club.
I have stored his more than 3,000 books, in addition to books focused on Africa, so from the stories of slavery and etc., the anonymous ones, the black books of the dead, the beautiful ones. I'm already working in a visual space and already last week some people who are more organized are starting to approach me to say: can we now? institutionalize this knowledge so that we can have modules, so Dr Shanice, I think she is in London at the moment, is working on the first leadership curriculum, African leadership models and I have designed the material, they are standardizing it and everything else that creates a forward application, so I am running with the modern generation and I will place the information where I think you as young people should easily access that information and be able to transform the next generation.
Wow, let's talk about rehearsal for a moment, what do you do? Why do you think there is such a high crime rate in South Africa? Actually, it's called the murder capital right now. Why is this so and why? And you know you shouldn't sound disingenuous and I'm not saying white people aren't dying. How is that? There are a lot of black people killing black people and they say that it is the residue of the violence of apartheid that is happening. Crime is international and there is a problem that we all face on a daily basis, but what makes South Africa different is not just crime, it is violent crimes where it is not just about me taking your phone after taking the phone.
I must stab you. I must shoot you after I get to the house and steal what I want. I must read and I must know what it is. It is that element and, looking at it from a psychological perspective, one wants to understand the culture of violence again. Since the white man set foot on South African soil, all South Africans have experienced this violence over issues of stolen lands. the slaughter of cattle, the mines, the associations of families with deer, husbands spend a year, two, three, five years in the mines, they are dying there, the women are left with children and the children grow up without parents, then the Municipality mentality appears before they begin to enjoy that municipality. mentality full of illegitimate children because the wives are at home, the parents are in the city starting new families on that side, so anger starts brewing in the background, then apartheid comes and war breaks out.
Young boys and girls see banned men and women on tires and being touched and some of these young people get involved in this crime, it becomes normal that in reality and then the police come with guns and shoot etc., then the bullies too they start committing gun crimes, so you start to see the upbringing of a society that is actually starting to lose the sanity of life in apartheid times, you wouldn't be afraid to walk past a dead body, even now when you can walk past someone being robbed next to you, you don't say anything about it, Deseret walks. past and then you understand when it creates a culture in the community that is violent unless and until we can begin to detoxify ourselves from that mentality and the Western media still doesn't make it easy yeah the movies are we are constantly desensitized you know that violence is like you know what you know on WhatsApp status on you know on Twitter it's just that you can appear like yesterday I was seeing the woman that I witnessed in Cape Town who just got shot and it's like it's another normal day. you know, three minute news is like moving on to the next thing and then you feel that we are using social media responsibly when it comes to the agendas that we are trying to push as African people, this pan-African agenda that was moving towards it is necessary and I've stopped blaming people too much, it takes education and every good teacher and every good farmer must be patient, it takes a season, a right season, I mean I've seen what social media can be like. from Good Help look at the story of black lives matter that blew up the diet, the death of that little boy Floyd, that in a matter of minutes everyone knew something had happened there and how black people began to unite and mobilize each other, and that's why there is a good side in media history, but I think that like any tool, when used badly, it also damages when people build each other and then, through the media, we we destroy each other again and, you know, I mean some of us in our old age who have gone all over the world.
A whole block where some media that is building you up tomorrow morning wants to give you breakfast and then they cut you off again, then you shake off the dust and walk, you walk again and suddenly one day they discover that no, we are. lying, but who can come back? Does the media ever come back? you know, you know the game, you know, you know the game, I understand it by weapons, we buy weapons, there's also like when I was young, um, there's a problem that I'm seeing like there's a The problem that I'm seeing is that all those revolutionary parties across Africa feel like they have betrayed the cause they set out to achieve in the first place and how do we go from saying we are now passing the baton to the Next Generation and just a disclaimer.
I'm not saying anything should happen to anyone. I'm just saying you know you're talking about South Africa, eff, and you know you're talking about Zimbabwe, Zambia, Nigeria, all over the continent, do you care? the revolutionary part is to liberate the countries um no, we have a problem, a genuine and genuine problem that we undermine ourselves to such a point that we cannot trust those who come after us, who have learned from us, so which is a lack of trust in information. Number one, number two, there are the smaller guys and the opposition parties that are there.
I've said this a dozen times. I have said this teacher, miss and CCC a dozen times and I will say it again even here and put it on the record. You cannot talk about a revolution without knowledge and if you do not talk about revolution when in reality you just want to become the new colonizer, the question is what is going to be done differently, because the issue is not leadership, but the quality of software the policies the constitutions that govern that office you are putting a person in so good tomorrow morning boom as president in a country the courts are still standing the legal frameworks are still standing the immigration policies are still standing the banking laws are still in place the agricultural laws are still in force, tourism is still in force and the rest of the information and until the African Child understands that you cannot exchange hyenas with foxes it is not leadership, are we aware exactly what is What governs us? tying us up right now you could be working in the marange and you are plowing in your field and while you are playing in the field you collect the diamond you must run away from the diamond why because you can't hold a diamond why because there is a police in the government that talks about mining who wrote that law when was it written who was it written for and then you would find out that even if you can change leaders until we understand that we are not Romans and we are not judged if we are Romans and we are Dutch then give us the damn passports I like where you are going with this because I always laugh when I see and I don't know if I commit a crime or not um when I see these guys wearing these white wigs like me, they're like stupid little red robes, they're supposed to represent the British Empire, so our own bosses are too captured putting on those that even our culture needs to be liberated because we now have a legacy of oppression that we are now vilifying and now we are pontificating so are our cultural relationships, where does this culture come from?
In fact, in our own African culture, red clothing is not even identified with royalty, that is something totally known, it is like this, our only Kings who are supposed to be custodians of culture now he comes completely colonized from head to toe no, so that's why you know things are falling apart yeah, it doesn't hold up anymore Let's try, let's try this Theory right, let's say mapunga wakes up tomorrow, he's the president of Zimbabwe What are the five kids in the fight? What are the five key things you would change and what would you implement number one?
I will decentralize the entire capital city concept. I will move the Tourism Department to Victoria Falls. Department of Agriculture maybe Trump Department of mining maybe in queer Department of um cultural machine Department of Finance Arab and Romania is a legal capital. By doing so, you move the entire Ministry around the country with their budgets and their manpower, you allow development to start happening. The capital city is now automatically decentralized to reduce pressure on the capital city concept. This city was built to be inhabited by no more than 140,000 whites, with about 60, 70 to 200,000 blacks right now sitting in the number two, three, four million infrastructure.
I can't take that as if it were built for 500,500,000 people there you have it now our roads people complain and I too yes, we need roads and what in the meantime we simply lack the ability to think what the problem is it's a 14 it's a It's a 14-seater taxi and that text can fit 150 people, so our infrastructure and our development, the small housing projects that are happening around the cities of Harare at the moment,They are not talking about energy, water, roads, infrastructure and hospitals, so then all these developments that you are seeing, these beautiful buildings that are coming, the question is are they talking in terms of increasing network, so the first thing I'm going to do is decentralize the whole capital city concept and allow me to immediately abolish the prison and throw it away.
I prefer to deal with people who are serving sentences in their own towns because if you kill a person I can't put you in the jail. I will need you to start working the rest of your life to take care of the husband's family. that you have killed, so if that is rehabilitation for me, can I continue? I want to analyze something in your brain. What is your opinion on South Africa Has No Death Sentence? What is your opinion on the death sentence? Feel your life for life. What's the problem? If you kill a person, what makes your life more important than the one you killed?
So maybe that's a conversation for another day, but number three, then we would have to get rid of all the presence and the judicial system needs to talk. to cultural values and it is not just the entire family, so by rehabilitating the family, we can name this country Zimbabwe. Build houses first. In Solid Rock, they can then build a country together. There is a strong bias towards an appropriate cultural orientation that allows members of each The community must be accountable to each other before we can have a country, we need strong families number three. I would immediately throw the paper money into the trash can.
I would convert all that into gold coins or gold and then give people plastic papers to go and swipe and do their shopping, so it's value for value, you don't have to come to my house and I give you my cow and you You give the papers, that's theft, even if it's a thousand dollars, but it's theft, ask me why. I'm listening because at the end of the year my account has given you another cow for two or three, but the paper money you have given me has depreciated, so we need to exchange value for value for value, so the butter system for me becomes a mod. of operation except for other transactions of course they are commercial but I will have to put my foot down and restore value and dignity number fourI will make sure that all the citizens of the country in the land of Zimbabwe know about the 82 minerals that we have in Zimbabwe, How many quantities of these minerals do we have in each section, from gold to aluminum to the end? from the tunnel to the uranium and copper and Etc and I want the value there how much for the quantity and what is the value of the value of the value of these minerals number two come and see our forests and about the value of those three I want our water reserves that pass through of this lens, what is the value of that water?
I want the number there, then I want to look at our interior air space, how much capacity do we have in the air? There are no subvalues there and I want the total study of the human resource capital that we have on earth, how educated we are and what is the value of each head. I want the total there, to make a long story short. I would like to add all these values and have a figure at the bottom of what it is. the value of Zimbabwe as a country, then divide that figure by 25 million people, then I will know the value of each moment that is walked on the face of this Earth, having said that each piece of land is valid at that value as such, whatever with a piece of land you can still walk to the bank and get the value of your land which is development to me, so right now we only have one urban piece of land that you can go to the bank with, which is on top of a water pipe residuals, but your house is sitting on a gold mine and that land is worth nothing, it is worth something, then you start to see what you call this concept of capital again from banking, where we can notice that it is a European colonial mentality where only those who live with electricity place, etc.
They have value for the land and for some farmers, but the rest of the country is actually unbanked, uninsurable and unprofitable, so for me the number four will be the value of the brave and the people the value of Lent number five, five, yes, five. I will transform our educational institutions. totally close the departments and allow each department to get creative and create products new products Engineers should start creating real things in their departments students should go there to create not just books, create products, studying should be to solve problems as well that I walk to the university and say: "ok, there is a problem here", honorable department with all the skills and books you have, try to force yourself crying for water for as long as I can remember, the technical universities are there, the departments are there and the whole university, the whole university.
The university cannot be solved, including professors who give good lectures on mining or engineering, and what in those ideas to me are simply useless ideas. Because unless you can turn them into a practical transformation, it's worthless, so yeah, I'll do that and number five, six. which is a little and comfortable. I would give white Jesus a vacation. I would send him the money on an interesting vacation, yes, very, very nice vacation, and I would just tell him to step back a little bit and let people really find themselves. Be ethical. Be sincere, be honest and that already speaks of the transformation and ownership of time.
I'm going to have to change the way we celebrate ourselves around our own culture, and with that being said, what's the last thing I'm going to do? Oh, I think that's it. That sums up quite a bit. I might be tempted to reconstruct the best movie, but since another From Another Hill is not not the same, it just revives that old memory in the present, yes, my last and final question. You're in and out of the country and every trip you take, you always come and see how you know if it's congestion, you know, that's how people behave or just traffic, it's just a reflection of society that we, which Is your opinion about today's society?
Zimbabweans as individuals the way we are selfish the way eventually the social fiber of us you know is just where we are going what is happening with us I actually first realized that when I came back the amount of toxicity that was in the media space I mean, when I was in South Africa the South Africans told me to come home, you know, stop talking about our problems here when you can't remember and I said, oh, I'll come home, then I'll come home and this. The book said: go back to South Africa, you brought nothing except the beard and then people just want to throw me away, but no, I'm not disturbed, I'm not disturbed by any possibilities, but that's a toxic environment and it's toxic for one or two reasons. why opposition politicians think that no one else thinks outside of them, which is unfortunate, where and again this policy of yours, whether it's this or that, you must be this or that, it's a bit polluting because I, I, I am not this. or that I'm just here reflecting if this does good I will recognize it if this does good I will recognize it if this does bad I will mention it if this does but don't mention it now who are you not you It must be there, people will lie, Mapunga is leading to South Africa to the hospital, you know, and he makes cartoons of me and draws things, but anyway it's part of the comedy, oh no, no, there's no advertising.
I think it's a business part of our lives that has always doubled. up you know, you know, you're never doing one thing, you're doing this and this and this and but I'm very excited to be in the country because I'm starting to see some positive movements, I mean, the airports are finishing up in terms of construction. , passed by yesterday and drove home single the other day, beautiful, beautiful and even drove to Bedbridge and a beautiful job. I have covered the damn kai, wonderful job, I guided them that has been. built beautifully, I could go astray. I want to go and see for myself the power plants that are coming up there and report on that, so my sight came back to the country basically to do media coverage of the positive things that are happening and I'm doing it deliberately, not that I'm not nothing bad is happening, but as a person who has lived in the International Space for a long time and the content that came out of the country was all negative, it was almost there. being known by the gossip and you imagine, you wonder if this is the whole country, this is all that is happening in the whole country and I'm sorry I know a lot of guys who are missing a beautiful story, so I started telling that story and I have to say Over the last two years that I've been here, I should, I should, not take credit, but I'm starting to see some warmth coming out of your space and people are starting to look again.
They look at themselves and talk about themselves even more positively. People can also take photographs of their fields, their grains, where they are plowing in my project that I am doing in the reconstruction of my grandfather's house. I see other kids, cheer up, they are also taking pictures of their own and I don't say that to brag. I am allowing my story to become yours and I know that I represent many young people who left home, went to other places and returned from where they came from. It is falling apart. I'm not ashamed that it fell apart, but I'm here to rebuild it, so it's a story I'd like to share with my fellow Africans.
Hey, it's never too late to do the right thing, in my true sense. words I I think we are on the right path and again, if we stop this five-year Democratic change, we will go very far because for the first year first, but here you are not studying to campaign because next year is the election and then you, you, you keep having these five year programs that are never completed, the next person who comes along has totally different ideas, we need 20 60. We need 100 year planning, it's a path to the future and then we would find it when you are in the future, we can see the past much clearer, yes, that's one of the other things that I don't respect the concept around it, but it's not that I envy what's left of the document, you know when you look at the Declaration of um, it's the Declaration of Independence, the American document that the founding fathers were and to this day are still able to refine, that was the genius of the airport, although yes, although it has some flaws here and there, but I mean it's a book. that, uh, that, the reference point, you start from here going in that direction and I think for us as a country that we are before, it is for us, blame no one, we have to create whatever it is called the dream of Zimbabwe, true, what, what country do we want, what.
It looks like who is going to be residents there what industries are they going to operate what kind of business is what entertainment are they going to be what kind of people are going to reproduce tonight are we going to sleep with our wives to produce? those people so they don't fall off this guy and you and you know how funny you know, I always see people lining up, you know, people are taking these exams to just get out of the country and things like that. And it breaks my heart how we can be producing so much human capital just for someone else to use it and it won't stop until we stop the trucks that are pulling minerals out of the ground, because every loaded truck you see is going down that road with its factories goes with their plans goes with their industries because Africa has a problem the three three levels level one is what I call primary industries where basically you cut more you dig more give us give me more raw material as it is, then you have the secondary industries where now They wash these minerals and remove the impurities and finish with your steel with your chromium with what then are the tertiary industries where they convert these minerals now into devices and etc., so Africa needs to understand that the European market is tertiary, it is secondary, sorry , the Chinese market is tertiary, so you will find that the raw materials that Africa supplies are washed here and processed there, so it is not easy to industrialize the primary market into a tertiary market without understanding the secondary market, so for now what Zimbabwe needs is to start creating a secondary market, which The Honorable is already doing in terms of processing and laundering even this chrome and platinum etc. it leaves the country so it slowly starts to get more traction in terms of its secondary industries and at a later stage that is what China was able to do. 30 years of planning.
China was now able to become the capital city of manufacturing and ultimately it is go to China and buy that technology that makes lithium batteries in Zimbabwe, you don't need to take the price of lithium from Zimbabwe and now you can't even get solar power , but I like the temple that African leaders are in right now. The current African leaders who are there, I think, have reached that point where if we are sitting at the table or sitting equally, we are not sitting as if I were an admirer of yours. I'm very disappointed that you never brought your latest book.
I saw you announce it on another podcast, but you never know. I really appreciate it.
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