Joe Rogan Experience #1554 - Kanye West

Hello, Mr. West, what's up? What's going on? Man, I'm glad to see you guys too. We finally made it. We are here. We made it possible. We are in the building. Yes sir. So, what are you doing? Are you running for president, uh, yeah, what? he made you decide to do that, aren't you busy enough? clothing company, successful rapper, family man, it was something that God put on my heart in 2015, a few days before the MTV awards, I just realized it in the shower and when I did it for the first time. I thought about it and I started laughing at myself and this whole thing was like joy took over my body, through my soul and I could just, I felt that energy, I felt that spirit, so two days later, I accepted the Michael . jackson video vanguard Awards at the uh mtv awards and um, instead of performing, you know my variety of hit songs, you know, I just gave my perspective on the awards shows, but I always knew that in the end I was going to tell people to the one I am applying for. position, I'm running for president in 2020. and you know, to have it, it took me courage to even say it in that context and people were like, oh, like they were freaking out and then I was dating different people that I had. different friends that you knew some people in the music industry some people from the tech elites different things like that and they really, you know, they really took it as a joke and they're telling me all these millions of reasons why I could do it.

I didn't run for president. I remember running into Oprah two days or a day later and she was like, yeah, I want to be president and you know people that you know thought about putting this on you and I remember saying uh one of my responses to one of the people that one of the naysayers was I would definitely be a billionaire at that time, uh and not that that's a reason why anyone should become president, but it's to say at that time I was 50 years old, about 50 million dollars in debt and I knew I was confident that I could change that and now you know, I just want to give you a yes, that's a clear answer, someone, I know what you're saying, no, I don't know.

I want to go off on two of them, no, okay, yeah, what you're basically saying is you know how to set goals and you know how to achieve them, but what was Oprah's reasoning when she said you don't want to be president like you used to? she said because I remember when people were saying that's our next president, remember when Trump was elected, you know, they showed Oprah and they were like yeah, I think it was like NBC tweeted it, this is our next president, like a lot people. I wanted Oprah to want to run and they felt like if Trump could win, Oprah could win when I saw Trump win.

I thought, "See, you can win, you know he was." You can win if you come from outside politics. I was young when. ronald reagan was in was president i don't remember ronald reagan was the governor of california before he was president he had actually proven himself to be a politician at least to some extent which is an idea that people have thrown at me to be governor of california to be governor of california anyone is better than this guy just move on start there have a chance open things up again man but I believe and I believe my calling is to be uh I think my calling is to be the leader of freedom . world no, no, I mean, if it's in God's plan that part of my path is to be governor, then that's fine, but my calling is to be the leader of the free world, so when you say this like when you say that your calling is to be the leader of the free world, what does that mean to you, that means, you have a plan that is different from the plans that have been implemented before, it means that you have ideas about what kind of plan, like the plan to be the leader like what would you do if you were the leader of the free world like what would be different in the way you would handle things like that's your plan like what's that about that's your calling like why why would you want to do it do that, what do you want do differently if you were the leader of the free world?

Well well there were a couple of questions there you said why you know why it's your calling there are people who will tell me you know I'll say well music is bigger than politics or more influential than politics or celebrities or more influential and I thought about it like I was the pastor of a church of a hundred thousand people, but I was also a captain of a sailor and then We went to war and I said: I'm going to crew this ship that has a thousand people and a thousand soldiers because God is calling me to take this position even though I'm the pastor, you know, no matter how big my audience is. -jumps uh into music or just like an influencer or a celebrity uh or just like a father and a husband in my house the world is like there couldn't be a better time to put a visionary in the captain's chair um and that en I don't mean we haven't had visionaries, uh before, I'm not coming here to take down any of the others, uh, I'm not here to take down Biden, uh, I'm just here to express why, um, uh, why God has called me to take this position, so when you say you are a visionary, you think of yourself in terms of an artist, as a creator, someone who has these thoughts that manifest in terms of music and creating art, designing things. what are you doing. that's why you think you're different as a visionary yes I think I think I'm different from I mean we're all different so I'm definitely different from everyone we're all different from each other I mean yes running into people who seem to be the same character because inside, yeah, it's like I said people before, yeah, people play the same roles, like well, I just met you before, you're like the boss of this company here.

You're the same type of person um yeah, you know, I mean, I manifest, I see things, I'm a great leader because I listen and I'm empathetic and I feel the whole earth and we feel like a species like the human being. race like I do sometimes people think of uh utopia as almost like a negative word, I mean we couldn't have that, but I do believe in world peace, like people hit me with one of the things that Oprah said is that she said you have To delve into your foreign affairs, I remember this because it's Oprah speaking, so I'm going to remember a lot of what the conversation was, but that was the first thing she said: you know, foreign affairs and foreign policies, I think reason why I say leader and that politician and not even specifically uh president is uh this is the moment when you know when the constitution was written that was an innovation now the world is innovated in our entire political system, but we have not innovated or simplified our political system, so I met with this gentleman, Sam, one of the founders of Y Combinator, so Y Combinator is a contract that my friend, the head of Dropbox, used and that a lot of tech people use and it's a standardized agreement.

So one of the ideas that I had when I was um, since I'm in this process of innovating, I'm not, I'm not at war with the music industry, it's just that it's time for us to innovate and we need to have contracts that makes sense. exactly with the way we sell music so you meet the people in each vicinia and that's like every 20 years, I mean, a decade is 10 vicinia is 20. and as you can see now it's like the world stops for a second and there is an opportunity to look and say what are the things that we need, what are the things that we don't need, so I don't know if you saw when I published my contract, I had 10 contracts that kept putting me in a maze and there are things that I don't we need it now, I think the distribution partner that the label is like Prince would go and say, "Oh, we don't need the distribution partner, especially if Prince was really alive and thriving in this Internet age, I'm the guy." of person where I'm not trying to go and remove anyone's work so that record labels are afraid to say okay, we will hand over distribution entirely to you, which is a possibility, there is a way for both parties they can be. happy and that these infrastructure partners can be useful for the influencer and for artists like these, these agreements can be changed in a way that they are more fair, you know, one record and I'll let you in the specific place with the labels record labels for a second, yeah, I'm talking about this being kind of confusing to people on the outside, yeah, so before when I told my dad I wanted to rap, he was very wary of that idea, he said.

This, I heard that this business is terrible and you know he's right, that people see things that are wrong within the contracts and they turn a blind eye and everyone is responsible, everyone is part of it, you know, it's like when the movement me too, you know? It wasn't just the guys that got tagged and you know some of the guys should have been hit with that, some guys, shouldn't they know that's not what I'm here to talk about? I mean it in a way, everyone responsible, everyone is part of the problem, that's why I really love that episode of Black Mirror when you know everyone was making comments and anyone who even made a comment, the bees, it was about these, you know, mechanical bees, anyone and this is a spoiler alert.

If you haven't seen this episode but anyone who has made a comment, the bees came to get them and that's what you put into the universe, even a thought, you know, you put that thought into it, it's another thing to say something negative. and put that out there in the universe, it's another thing to see someone being raped, you know, that's why I compare what's happening in the music industry to me too because artists get raped, you've heard that term before, no, this is not like it's not something new that I'm inventing, contracts are made to violate the artist and um, you know, I put my like, I think about, you know, this is like a thought that right now it's like this.

It's a negative thought that I'm putting out into the universe, but I have to say that when I was on Twitter I was thinking about Bruce and Brandon Lee and it crossed my mind to say: I'm, this is Sony, this is universal and I'm willing to put myself out there. blue paint on my face and go out and do this because it's the right thing to do like making music like at this point it's making me lose money it's not making me money it's my five billion dollar net worth and $300 million in cash that I see a year , music is like negative 4 million to me so these contracts to me were like wang grow and heat where this guy had it all but still said wang grow ruined this. uh, this heist that we're going to do is like I look at the music industry and that music and the love of music itself, but I look at the music industry like a wang girl, like I blame, you know, the loss of my mother in part to the entertainment industry always fights, you know, represents, you know who you are, against media entertainment in an industry that is trying to tear down anyone who doesn't go with the flow, I see you know I have those kinds of reasons personally, uh, but uh.

Vengeance is mine, said the Lord, so it is not about seeking revenge, it is just me as a human being, where I fall short as if I were not a monk. Can you explain what you're talking about with Bruce Lee and Brandon Lee? what i lost you there, okay so bruce lee and brandon lee were murdered, well brandon lee died in an accident on the set of a movie, yeah, do you think it was a murder? I felt like it was a conspiracy, right, the conspiracy was that the Chinese triad killed him. The same way they killed Bruce, but the coroner's report was that Bruce died from a reaction to a medication, right, yeah, I mean, but I think about that every time I go to the hospital.

I am very aware. one of those things that you think about like Bob Marley, not only did he get mocked or cheated on, there are reports that it was something in his toe or that he had cancer, right, I think he had skin cancer, yeah, like he was going to go uh I got a shot in my hand because just from texting and stuff my thumb hurt and then I told you so many things that you hurt your thumb just from texting too much so I posted a picture of the screen in the hospital and then They asked Me to remove it, but who do people just call them.

I don't remember exactly who asked me, but it was like they came to my management. They came to this and told me to remove that photo like in the hospital. It was the strangest thing. place, you know, so what did they not like about the image? um, I think he had some information that they didn't want me to get out, like an address or something, it's like, but no I don't want to go down, down these rabbit holes, I'm just saying that Michael Jackson won't wake up one day, the prince won't wake up one day, Bruce and Brandon Lee, Bob Marley, all these things have crossed my mind. going and saying that I need to innovate what these contracts are not only for me but for all artists it is not about me getting my masters back but about freedom and I say in a new song I say if I would put myself in danger to get my masters, They would put themselves in danger to remain the master and that is a complete parallel to the way the music industry works and the way the world works today and the influence that the United States has on other countries and the way thathow governments work, uh the influence and the way the government and the way the people in power and control deal with, you know, the deal with disaster relief, the deal with Haiti, the deal with the Bahamas, like, where does the money go, why aren't things going? in construction and this concept of money, I asked myself this, um uh, I asked someone a week ago how much the United States is in debt and it was so many billion and then I asked him a rhetorical question, but the dumbest question I ever asked myself I said well, you know how much land costs, think about it, think about a bad question, but how much is land worth?

Buy it, we couldn't make enough money to buy the Earth properly, that means we made money, so if money is the key to everyone's happiness and we will solve everything and everyone is doing things for money, let's just make more money, but it's not like that. making more money is about keeping the poor poor and the rich rich and keeping people in their place and right now we are experiencing the fall of Rome or the Titanic has now hit a glacier and there are people who would rather sink with the titanic than getting into a lifeboat because they don't want the sea water to stain their dress or a nice outfit, people are so programmed and have been brainwashed towards classism and protectionism that it is difficult for people to embrace innovation unless it has a label, it has a connected brand that says that with this innovation you will be better than the person, you will be better than your next door neighbor.

You know, when I did Sunday service, I stopped rapping completely because I don't know how to rap for God, you know all my raps always had like um, you know, nasty jokes and um, and then you know I did um, I did uh when I went to the hospital, I know you want to go in. This, when I went to the hospital in 2016, I wrote "start a church in Calabasas" and as we exited 2018 and entered 2019, I said I wouldn't let a Sunday go by without starting this church and there are people who said that was the case.

There's a church and different things, but to start a ministry I'm like the little drummer where I say, you know this, all I have to bring is my drum. I may not be well versed in the word but I know how I make music and I know how to put this choir together and all things can be done right for God so it quickly became the best choir of all time because all the best singers They moved to California and now, but a lot of them grew up in the church, so it's like an opportunity for them to really get paid singing for God because I would fund it and that to me was like a tithe to fund the Sunday service and I was four months before giving my life to God.

Like I wasn't saved, it's just that I had a calling that was like, just go do this church and the whole thing, the comparison to this church for me, you go and say, okay, why am I running for president? It's to be in service and that's service to my own ego, uh, you know, I feel like God is saying to me: Have I not given you enough? And I gave you an ego that helped you overcome all these obstacles, smoke screens and people telling you what you can't do now. you need to realize when you're doing things for your ego and when you're doing things for me this is like god what I feel like god is telling me uh because it really irritates me when people say god told me to tell you So I'm very aware of these types of words and what I say I have the feeling that that is what God is saying for me to be in service, so the final position of service is that of leader of the free world to be the president of the united states is sometimes you see me on twitter I will say I want all the smoke I want all the problems because problems are opportunities there is an opportunity to solve things and kurzweil uh he created the keyboard kurzweil uh he has this video that frame manik this director who He filmed 99 Problems for Jay-Z which is my favorite, maybe one of the five or two favorite videos of all time, he also did a closing for Trent Rezner and I like it, I just grew up on MTV. in the '90s and I love Mark's romantic videos, but he shared them, shared little snippets.

I remember Ray Curls Kurzweil talking about the ability of us to have a utopia, but being guided by the least noble and the most greedy, but. if someone or when someone is in a leadership position that is serving God and serving people, period, but immediately the American people, um, had this joke, he was saying, as a man, no one outside of our country should be able to see this. debates, this is a family business here, this is only for America to see, we can't let anyone outside the country see it except to be on duty, so I already stepped away from my rap career for a year and I served God every week, sometimes twice a week. week, three times a week, we never missed a Sunday until we coveted and um and this thing there were people inside the church stealing doing different things trying to take them and God still provided us with a way to keep that ship afloat, we never missed a we.

I never missed a service and then one of my pastors, Pastor Adam, which is, uh, uh, the way he preaches is called expository, it's like one on one per word. I like all different types of preachers, but there are some types of preachers that they. they get up, they have the bible in their hand, then they close the bible and then they just talk for two hours and it's and some have anointing, but the expository preachers go line by line and to me it's like I'm coming from the entertainment that I have. so much sauce I don't need sauce in the word I need the word to be solid food that I can understand exactly what God was saying to me through the King James version do this, you know, through this translation or Shannon's English version Then Pastor Adams would come to my place.

I have this 300-acre place in Calabasas. We had a little house where he was recording and playing this music. These chords that I love are almost monk-like. And that is going to enter into something that we will talk about later because I am building a modest, I am building them a monastery that will later be the future of monasteries, this is like totally sustainable energy now, Pastor Adam tells me. He tells me when I was thinking about whether I should rap or not, he said my son just said, you know, I wish I heard yay rap, make an album about Jesus, a rap album about Jesus, and it was through girls mouths like this person.

I'm going to listen to the kids brother, you know, I'm going to listen to my daughter. I'm going to listen to kids before I listen to super-programmed adults, especially if that adult hasn't done something I'm looking for. do it right, then it's so funny how people are so free and almost ar

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t with their advice and I'm like, why would I listen to you? You don't even ask me for any advice. I am the most successful person I know. so, um um, so he said my son wants to listen to a yay rap album and that was the paradigm shift for me.

I used that word a lot. I like it. I like the paradigm shift. It is one of my favorites. I made this rap album and you know for a lot of people it was the first album they could play with some level of production at home with their family, now you know you could argue if the production on Watch The Throne was stronger. or better than uh jesus king production, but when I go and like, I've been working with dr dre and some of the beats and I just know like you know the hardest beats possible and it's something that was very spiritual and meditative about mix.

Jesus the king, which wasn't hitting as hard as Jesus or hitting as hard as uh look at the throne, it was how God wanted me to do this sonic painting and the way he wanted me to communicate then, so we did it. that album and then we did the Jesus's Born album, which I also had that idea from Pastor Adams, uh, and I mean, there are people that that's the only album that they play and it just brings these gospels and I tell them that's my formula for these hymns . I am writing because I am writing the songs that we are doing in the Sunday service are basically my hymn book for the future gospel university that I am creating where I have imagined and will manifest a circular in a 200,000 seat stadium with a hundred thousand gospel singers and People will go to this university and train like you know a Russian Olympic swimmer.

You know, a photo like they're in the pool six days a week at least, if not seven days, but for people who sing. for church or you know, you know, because it's a tide, it's a professional bonus, all this is like people don't practice that as much as we practice going to the studio to rap or we practice playing basketball if we're in the NBA, like that that is making the NBA say uh, the coliseum for God and what you have liked to hear like football chants and like sixty thousand people, so I imagined that for God a hundred thousand people sometimes singing in harmony, sometimes in glory to the unison. glory oh almighty god we raise our hands and praise you glory glory oh almighty god we raise our hands and praise you for the image of a hundred thousand people in unison and that feeling what that would do for our spirits our souls is healing there are natural ways of healing about our environment, the friends we have, what we wear, what we eat, our diet, so where is a design company I formed about 10 years ago and some of the people who worked at where?

Now they have become heads of fashion houses like Virgil, the head of Louis Vuitton and he was the head of Donda at one point. Another guy who worked at Donda is now the boss of Givenchy, so this is like the talent pool. and this donda is basically my version of a cyber, you know, an extension of my brain, like there's something that I'm thinking about that you can't touch, but we need to do it, we need to make it real, we need to manifest it and we. I have to see how to use things from our past and things from our now to create our future, so it is an organization created to guarantee the future of the human race.

I really thought about even calling her Edna because I see us all as superheroes and Aetna. he was the designer on the incredibles, which is almost very similar to where. I'm just looking at these lineups and stuff, so now our focus is food, clothing, shelter, communication, education and transportation, so in the school that I just created, easy christian academy. I know we call nasa, we call different places about this vertical growing hydroponic garden, uh, and I remember sitting, you know, the idea of ​​the garden is from A to Z, you have to be able to make your food right there totally sustainable. , right there on your land and you know there are a ton of people saying, "oh, I made this salad right here", it's like it's not good enough, you still have to go to the supermarket to buy eighty percent, Sixty percent of your stuff.

I remember this, you know, this farmer. We knew I wanted to create this class for the kids and all of this we're going to show the kids this. People always make the kids version. I don't like this children's version. Children need to understand how and if. the pandemic was, you know, they lost all their parents and it was lost, children need to understand early how real life works, so physics is one of the pillars of the school that I'm creating. I remember you know I'm the city. everything is self-sufficient so it runs on our four main resources: earth, wind, water and fire, and 90% comes from water with aqueducts like the city of masada and I was talking to this engineer and I was telling him I need everything he stayed no water and he said, well, we're going to have to use solar energy.

I told him no, and please, you know, don't take this as an offense. I don't like solar panels. I feel like you're still part of the edison idea, I don't feel like they're really in line with what nikolai tesla really wanted to do with alt, I mean get into the whole tesla thing and what edison did to take down tesla and the De In fact, the world would probably already be free if Ted if Tesla wasn't basically destroyed by the media that Edison controlled in the propaganda that Edison controlled, so I'm talking to my engineer and telling him that this must run entirely on water. and I don't want to use a solar system anyway and he's like no I'm saying we're going to use a mirror and it's going to be connected to a steam engine and that's going to push the water up and I was like after yelling at the guy I thought , look, if I had known physics, I wouldn't have been yelling at my engineer, so if we think about what we're learning in school, learning physics, learning agriculture, I was, uh, I was talking. to a friend of mine who is a rapper and super uh super uh god who follows the spiritual super smart and I was showing her um uh uh some of the designs for the monasteries and some of the designs for the totally sustainable communities, all the same and then I said bioengineering and she said how is it for her that bioengineering has a negative connotation and my answer was it's not like growing and cooking like bioengineering in the simplest way how we go from like picking apples from a tree, oh, we put this boom in the soil, oh, and we could grow this and we could grow this, you know, we could grow thisharvest right here, so you know, I just want to simplify and round out the The principle behind Donda's way of thinking is that we have all this information and all this, you know, this science, scientific exploration, um, uh, these things that Tesla never completed, these things that Da Vinci never completed and we can see all these things. and see how we created the most primitive versions of this to create a fully sustainable ecosystem, do you know what greed really helped us get closer? our families get closer to our children, I understand like, oh wow, you know that was planned so that we would be 50 minutes from our house and our children's school was 30 minutes away and put us in traffic during that time and These cities have been designed to promote industry and just to make more money, they have not been designed to promote happiness, so we are in this paradigm shift in our existence, you know, it was when Muhammad came to the market, I think that's what it was and I brought money because before it was slavery and trade and this is something that you know, the Dishonorable men honor money.

I got this bar from Dave Chappelle. I'm not trying to steal the bar from him. uh, and you know that we as human beings, this race on earth we have. It's like I'm honoring the money and you know the money isn't even real. You know it's not even backed by anything. I don't want to go too deep into it, but when you deprogram yourself you see that there are now other forms of currency. Relationships are a more important currency than money itself and that's what we really saw. It's like the ending of the movie where our existence would be pre-conditioned after greed and therefore, as the Titanic crashes and sinks and Rome falls, there has to be this. new civilization like the end of tron ​​where everything starts to light up and it's been under this like a dark cloud, so you know God is using me and he has a calling, you know, on my life to make the world better for everyone people, as people say there are. bad people, there are good people, no, there are possessed people who have demonic customs, but we were all children at some point, they say some people aren't, they were born bad, you have to remember how to say, oh, there are bad people, even the devil is an angel. a fallen angel a lost angel like angels if you believe let me but that's the city of angels let me let me let me start from the beginning so you essentially deconstruct things so when you say in many ways when it describes you yourself As a visionary, this is what I'm saying: you're looking at all the systems that exist, whether it's the record industry, the contracts that are wrong with artists, the way civilization is set up, I think visionaries are too bright and too bold. of a title, okay, whatever it is, you're deconstructing all these things and you find fault with the systems, so all these systems, whether it's the music industry system, whether it's the political system, whether it's the of food collection, whether it is a religious system like I remember when you started doing your Sunday service and my friend said to me: What are you doing?

I'm going, it's making going to church great again. They are singing and singing as if he is not asking for anything. I'm going to look, if anyone should be doing something like this, it's him. I go because he's making good music. Everyone is having a good time. What do you get from that? The best thing people have been able to do. leaving church is a sense of community, a time when you come together and everyone agrees this is where you will focus on the good, you will focus on the goodness you will focus on and you will try to find these shared values ​​that go to help the community now that you're doing this in this massive way, you have the superstar musician who's doing this in this massive way with thousands and thousands of people in these gigantic areas, like that's nothing but positive, so you deconstructed the idea of ​​how to do a religious service but make it cool and now you're thinking about deconstructing all these different things, you're thinking about deconstructing how food is harvested, you're thinking about deconstructing how we generate energy, you're literally trying to deconstruct and reimagine the idea of civilization, yes, exactly, so tell me about how this starts.

Were you always religious your whole life? Yeah, I was and then you know, then I got to high school, so you know when? You're a young man and you know you're a superstar musician and you know you're living a wild life. What was it that brought you back to this? Just a feeling in your life that there was more life there. it was more in your position, there was more in you, you knew this idea of ​​a calling, you felt like you could do more and it resonated more with you to produce these Sunday services and to start thinking about life in this way.

Like you could make things better, yeah, god knocked me off my horse, god literally called me and said okay, I need you now, I need you right now, I need, not that God needs me, we need God, but he He called me to serve him and I was tired of serving the music industry to begin with, tired of serving, you know, filling stadiums, you know, when at the last concert, on the last tour that I did, we had a floating stage and, It was actually a hanging stage, but it looked like it was floating. and that's just another thing that is illusion where we need to dispel the illusion.

I wouldn't even call it a floating stage nowadays but the whole thing is people used to say that I would lose money on tours because I would invest a lot in creative and I wanted to prove but prove to who you know prove to the man prove to the greedy people you know that I could win more than anyone else and that's like the gladiator position that all the artists put themselves in like we're in the middle of this coliseum, let me show you that I can kill more lions, tigers, bears and people and blah, blah, than any other gladiator that happens, so that's what I was doing and then I remember talking to James Terrell and he was like at the top of his lungs, like screaming about saving ourselves and humanity and the reason why James and I needed connect and then I went to my show and then it's like this, like my head popped back and the spirit I jumped up and I felt like it was like my mom was talking and the last thing I said was this is over and I say it like it sounds like my mom said where, like that was something she would have said if she were in the physical realm. it forms when you see your child, you know, exhausted, like it just happened, uh, I had this fashion show, we had this fashion show where we took over msg and we just broke all the boundaries, we sold 20,000 16 000 seats and we play the new album and uh.

It was, you know, a thousand black people on the show and yeah, like all the young thugs who plug in the iPhone and uh, Travis and Cuddy dancing, I had 50 cents, Jay-Z, Lamar Odom, the first time people you know saw and We walked again, uh, we walked together to the stadium, uh, and he has a Yeezy camouflage jacket from head to toe and the reason why that was so important is because when he was in a coma, I came and put him the new music and once. He was out of the coma, he said he remembered that music when he was in the coma and that was the album he was playing that day, so that's the reason Lamar and I went in together and then a few months later, I made a fashion show and it started 45 minutes late and the media just killed me, lebrond me as I would say, like when lebron went to uh to um uh miami and they said you know who you are to have a choice, you know how uh one of my other heroes, Tom Brady, gone.

I didn't see any shirts burn like when Lebron left, so less than a week after that, my wife was robbed in Paris and we were just because it's me. I'm in the middle of a tour doing the fashion show while I'm doing this so we cancel the tour because it's so traumatic and then we start the tour again and we go back to it and then I keep saying I want to go to Japan. I just want to go to Japan because Japan is like a way people are treated there, not like the systemic racism embedded in every individual that is within the place like in America. black, white, whatever, there's a systemic white supremacy, uh, white, like when I label, you know, white supremacy or we say this, it's like um, yeah, that's America, that's the world today.

We've been taught that my first superhero was Superman, you know, and my dad was a black panther, but you know, when Disney makes the black panther, now when you look up, you don't see my dad protecting his neighborhood or taking a hand microphone to someone while they're lying, I don't know, you know? father as son right there, uh, but you see this character that's made for black people to idolize, that was designed by a white white person and brought to you by a white company, so it's controlling the narrative to say we're going to show you Harriet.

Tubman. I'm not going to show you, not Turner, and they do it every chance they get, they go evil, uh, um, they called it her race of people, the Moors and the Moors, and I just saw it again. I was like you if you erase our history like most black people we don't know or come we think we come from slaves we don't know our lineage and they give us black history month and we take it like it's a gift to us no it's a programming for Racism in Us doesn't end until we get to a point where we stop having to put the word black in front because it's like we're putting the edge a little lower for ourselves, like when I say "I." I am the second richest black man in America.

Why do I have to say that? Because you know, obviously, if we just went to the wealth period of what we call wealth, like financial wealth, that scorecard, you know, it would be like me. I'm the 78th richest man in America, but we shouldn't have a special box in a special month because also what they show in black history month is they hose us down to remind us that we were slaves, what if we would have remembered when? I cheated on you for a month, remember when you first found the text messages. Remember how that makes you feel.

It makes you feel exhausted and defeated. You know that no matter what religion you are, what we can agree on is that it is always now, but. now is the shortest moment of our life, it was gone in an instant, the longest moments of our life are our memories and our imagination, think about how long a child imagines Christmas before, I mean, compared to how long It's really Christmas and when you think about your Christmas. Are you under the table like Jim Carrey and the eternal sun with an impeccable mind like under a chair or are you a giant?

Are you a king? Are you what black? What has Black History Month told you? You are and this is me talking to you. I know black people specifically in America that you know, I know people that you would know kill someone in uh or have a gunner that you know in your own neighborhood and be afraid to go downtown and literally be afraid of white people like the gangster gang. of gangsters wouldn't go downtown and that's just programming, but that program is within the curriculum, it's an instant media side, and it goes to this whole idea of ​​yeah, when people say Jay is crazy, it's a narcissist, he's a uh egomaniac he's yay self-absorbed from jay all this no yay you know who he is yay I know who I am and I'm not well I'm not fit to bow down to an idea that you want to have of me I'm going to be the complete idea that God has of me and when I do things that God doesn't like, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm being the lesser version of myself, this is where you know in my weakness.

God becomes strong, I have to be superior when people knock me down, it's not like I fight fire with fire, I attack or, like you say, like you know, lower myself to uh, lower myself to that level, it's like the devil will use you against you. Become your own, uh, you become your own worst enemy and I just made a riff right there, but the thing is, this is not what you do, yeah, yeah, one of the things I do when someone tells me about you. They say it's everywhere and I say I think it has a different power source, like if you look at the way everyone interacts with the world, if there is a universal power that most people have like a 20 watt charger how I describe it.

I'm like, I think it has a 150 watt charger and these ideas just come to you, so you go on these rants that sometimes need to be broken down into individual things, but overall you're incredibly productive, so my question is why? Do people think there is something wrong with you? Yes, this is it, but legitimately, as if you had been medicated. They have locked you up. They have brought you. How did that happen? Well, I'll say these two things, I think. very three-dimensional, I don't think in the black and white lines that I've been programmed to do and I think in full color, so when I speak I have to describe a thought in five ways, you know, we enjoy it. food that has multiple seasonings we enjoy music that has multiple instruments so when I talk it's not a rant, it's a symphony of ideas and when you put them together you say oh, these are all these things that connect, yeah, you know, just I say the truth. and telling the truth is crazya world full of lies, that's just all it is, but none of the things you say are crazy, other things you said are crazy, it's fascinating the way you think because I can see you're thinking in all these different layers and you're looking at things from all these different perspectives and they all come out of your mouth together like a tornado of ideas now, if someone wants to just have a conversation with you back and forth, they could see if you follow this The guy is crazy, he just won't stop, he's ranting but what I'm seeing is that you're a very deep thinker, you're thinking about things independently but now you're thinking about things from a massive perspective, who convinced you that's bad?

Have you always been like this or were you less? Was it less manageable before? Did you have problems with that before? Yes, I think before I found Christ and gave my life to God, I was trying to lean on my own understanding and that is the universe. It's like a black hole of information. What do you mean by your own understanding? meaning when people ask einstein he said you are the most intelligent person what would you like to know he his einstein answer was i would like to understand the mind of god meaning meaning God knows everything and we can only know or see and for me as a visionary , we can only know or see what God allows us to see and what he feels we are ready to see and understand to maximize what our hierarchy of mass laws and the graph is, you know, what activates our dope, what it activates our serotonins, which makes us feel good, basically, like you know we did a good deed and it's like somehow it's where you know you're just making a beat for a famous person. or just making a beat for a local rapper really meant a lot to me when I was 14.

Making a beat for anyone famous who had a major record deal was a lot for me at 19 years old. I know how to put out my own music and play my own. It was a lot for me at 24 years old, that is, as I grow, God establishes new stages in the game of life for me, so that you get your satisfaction as the hierarchy of needs Maslow's is like our satisfaction table. it makes us feel complete and fulfilled as human beings, so as I go through these different levels, there are times where I use confidence when I know what I'm doing and I use ar

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I was doing, but I'd rather use arrogance than let someone diminish my idea of ​​myself because that's what keeps us going, hope actually keeps us alive. Anyone you ask most people says: do you want tomorrow to come? and they say yes, they have done it. I have hope in it, but I went from having confidence and arrogance to having faith and faith is the opposite of fear and that created this courageous approach that I have and that is what has now made me the courageous leader that I am and that I like. . crystallized into the leader that my mom always knew I would be when the kids followed me in preschool the leader that people saw when we changed the sound of music the leader when we changed the sneaker industry the leader and what we're doing with uh with agriculture and with shelters when I was building, you know, the homeless shelters, a couple of years ago, and visiting parks and then skipping the line and understanding the dynamics and empathizing with the real mental health issues that we don't They are someone you know. tell your truth or be exhausted and then be labeled as such like I am so that's what you felt happened to you like you were absolutely true and you were exhausted and you were labeled as mentally ill yeah absolutely I'm saying this right , what happened to Do you feel like maybe or probably do you feel like having this higher calling and recognizing this higher power was the glue that held your thoughts together, kept your mind straight, and kept you on a straight path, so instead of being scattered with everything?

These crazy thoughts and being exhausted and being labeled a manic like we talked about before and you were saying they had you on medication, but the medications with your creativity did all kinds of things or blocked my ability to channel what God wanted me to do. but we're all on medication right now did you use toothpaste with fluoride today it blocks your pineal gland and they put it on the kids and we put it on the kids you know it's in the deodorants that we use are all these things to create like a disconnection with God to serve, it is as if you are serving man, you are serving the only master, but what did they tell you, when, when they said they were going to prescribe you medicine, what?

Did they prescribe you and what did they tell you? One of my favorite things they did was they put me on this medication that made me gain a lot of weight and I said I'm not going to take this and they said yes. you have a medicine you can take but you won't gain weight and this shows you they were trying to kill a superhero slowly trying to kill a genie trying to make me feel like I can't run for president make me feel like I can't go uh born in Atlanta grow up on the south side of chicago get into music go and win all these grammy awards change the sound of music and the look of stage performances all that and then end up with 53 million dollars in debt what music industry has people go to the exact debt on the house they think they are going to buy after the tour is over and it's a strategy, there are criminals on almost every account of everyone in the music industry, it's not a safe place, it's a place treacherous so full of money as soon as things are full of money they are full of people who are trying to take advantage of other people it is full of money the bees come to the honey exactly exactly that's how they put you they put you on this boat because you were exhausted what did he do? they put you um um you know what I can I can investigate actually I'm forgetting the exact medication that they had um but what did it do uh you the main thing it did is it destroyed my confidence it made this the shell of who I really am, like gray over my eyes, I did it made the mustang move more hmm they sedated you yeah yeah and what was the thought process behind it when you talked to a doctor about this what did he do?

They told you what was wrong with you uh they told me I was bipolar and I remember going on tmz and saying you know slavery is a choice and they medicated me for saying that for having that opinion and saying it out loud but because I said that contracts, I'm saying this is a choice since you know you don't mean people being kidnapped, enslaved and chained it was a choice, what you were talking about is people making decisions that would financially enslave them and enslave their children. life was taken out of context and it was taken in the most uncharitable way and they decided to try to say look crazy

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look at this he's saying and then they medicate you yes and the media has always taken anything out of context that is not part of the general narrative, yes, because you know, Hollywood and the media have controlled a lot of the narrative and then you had Silicon Valley and that's the beautiful thing about one of my heroes, Steve Jobs, because there would be no Silicon Valley or Silicon Valley would not be what which is today if Steve Jobs didn't make information accessible like this, which is still a little controlled, but it seems like Twitter is the safest and free mass platform to communicate and You know, it's like Jack gets picked on for that, you know, you know well, it's still censored, there are a lot of problems now, but I think that's internal, I think it's the people who work there who are woke and want to stop people from saying certain things. things and there are a lot of struggles with that nowadays and it's unfortunate because I agree that it's an amazing way to spread ideas, yes, but it's also something new and poorly managed by the people who use it often.

I don't know what they are doing or why they are doing it, every version of anything man has created is bound to have flaws and has to go through a lot of different evolution steps, it has to evolve and change, so why ? Did you agree to let them do this to you? Why did you agree to let them medicate you? Because if that's that look, I'm sure I'm crazy, but if someone came to me and said, hey, we're going to prescribe you some medication. That medicine will calm you down. I would say that everything I do is because I am not calm.

Everything I have done that has made me successful is because I have more energy. It's because I have a wild character. not calm down like I know how to calm myself down I can self-medicate with exercise and meditation and marijuana and a bunch of different things but I'm not going to take some medication that will eliminate anything that is unique about you and all these crazy ideas that come into your head like if very few people could string together these thoughts the way you're describing them today if someone asked me if there's anything wrong with it, it's full of amazing things like, what's wrong with that? can you hold that together what you just did in the way you just described reinvent civilization reinvent the church reinvent food supplies there's nothing wrong with that all of this is very interesting and very good I would never say that's bad, but what? are you like this all the time or Are there good versions of Kanye and versions of Kanye where you don't feel like you have control over these thoughts?

Do you know what I love? There were some perspectives that people showed about what a true manic episode really looks like after I went in South Carolina and this guy was talking about his mom being in an episode and kidnapping his brother and you know, in extreme cases appropriate, you know, I cried and my guts twisted like in the moment. I don't even like to say out loud what it is. what I said in South Carolina, but the idea of ​​you know, I'm just trying to phrase it in a way that's really safe and covers my family. um people saw this clip of me crying, some people didn't know why I was crying, but I was crying because there was a chance, you know, I'm just looking for a way to say this, there was a chance, you know, we didn't do that, Kim and I don't form the family.

We have today, that's what I like the most, uh, familiar, you know, the way of saying that and just the idea of ​​that tears me up inside, that I was part of a culture that promotes this type of thing as one of the most important statistics. on the topic of life is that the biggest advocates of the word are men from 31 to 37 years old and that's the age I was and I felt like I was too busy my dad felt like I was too busy for me and we have a culture of that and they have rebel child soldiers who were in Africa who would be drugged and psyched out and forced to kill their parents.

They were fine in our culture, we are drugged and psyched and forced to kill our Children, they know we have to decouple the conversation about planned parenthood and woman's choice now, so of course I'm a Christian, so I'm pro-life, and when I take office I will not change the laws because I realize that we live in an imperfect world in an imperfect society what I will present is a plan a and we have already started working on plan a to change the connotation of orphanages to change the connotation of foster care and not just change the connotation that you know verbally but create places that are at the level of amman geary and disney world how to have a child you know what this is like and we have so much land that can be created and then spread around the world to orphanages in Africa and in China and just um uh all over the world to create these environments where when you have pregnant families, moms and dads, they feel like there's a place, even if they don't feel well enough to bring another life to this world, that there is a place for Wow, there is a plan A because plan B and planned parenthood were planned by a eugenics who proposed and said out loud: I am doing this to kill the black race and create control of the population.

Know? What are you saying? Plan B refers to pill which means the morning after pill, do you know what allowed me to plan for parenthood? Let me, let me, let me uncouple those things, let me, let me talk about planned parenthood. Okay, the last number I saw is that there were 210,000 deaths due to greed in the United States. and everywhere you go you see someone wearing a mask with a word, a culture, I'll say it once with the abortion culture, there are 1,000 black children aborted a day, we are in genocide, so more black children have died.

In the past since February, people have died of greed and everyone wears a mask, so it's a question of where we are turning a blind eye so the media can control many times it has to control what we care about. I even heard someone say. at one point this is the actual phrase i heard someone say Puerto Rico so it got heard meaning there was a time when people cared and now the media says they don't care but these people It hasn't been resolved yet. the hurricane still hit the earthquakes still hidden people are still suffering from it and no one has really gone to fix it and when that 11 billion goes to Haiti and doesn't reach the people you know, the daily mail publishes a selection ofswimsuits or something and it takes our energy away from what we need to do collectively to help our brothers and sisters.

You know, I see society as one body. I just want to enter this crack because my thoughts are like these clouds and the Mario brothers. and I'll jump to this and I'll see another I'll jump to another and I'll say oh yeah I jump to another I need to express this uh this story I think you know love will heal all and we have to look at I think I think world peace is possible and I think it's us looking at each other like a moment in time time is love you love the things you put time into that's where I am time is love because this is like uh this intangible thing this thing that you can't grab you can't just take the time in your hand you can't take love in your hand but we feel that both things are real for us to love each other as simple as that love heals the world this is what it will take to heal the world but we have a competitive spirit, we like to have a bad guy, we like to have a competitor, so what we have to do is change the bad guy change the competitor make the competitor the Roman era Roman civilization make the competitive uh the Egyptian kingdom and to say that we are the first society we are the first civilization that became civil because we are still just as in the dark ages like the medieval times or like game of thrones, you know, level, uh, black mirror level, I know I went through another dimension of the future for a second, but we kill each other, we kill each other on social media, we kill each other in high schools as in the way we talk to each other, we physically kill each other in our own neighborhoods and outside the neighborhoods, you know this planet when we continue to turn a blind eye to our brothers and sisters and our family, which is us like like all of humanity, then of course there will come a point where there will be homeless people sleeping underneath, you know, a bridge in Calabasas because we ignore the homeless person sleeping in front of the Gucci store, what does it look like? in that image is a homeless person sleeping in front of the Gucci store we have builders we have people who know how to build communities we have people who know how to cook and how to make food and how to deliver this food people are fighting for the land and without really realizing it that we are not, we are not maximizing our resources and our existence, we have genius level scientists, we have people who rebel, you know, people who have broken free of the chains like elon like imagine if elon was working at gm in the third floor somewhere you know we wouldn't have electric cars we wouldn't have that new hybrid Porsche we wouldn't have uh uh what's going on with you know hyperloop imagine if the guy that, you know, started Airbnb, uh, it was shut down or the guys that started Uber were closed, all these people who separate themselves and then create the new society and the next frontier that we go to, people like I have said like that.

It seems to me that MIT is a place that has to be funded by people who want to take the smartest people on the planet and make them work on the smallest things that won't change anything and I've talked to people at MIT and myself. I could look at these brilliant people like this brilliant person I was talking to from MIT and he was scared, it was all fear, it was all about him, his girlfriend is pregnant and you know, we just got a house and I don't want to do nothing to change this. and me and this are like one of the most brilliant people on the planet, but if you mix brilliance with bravery we can ignite something, even this conversation alone can ignite people who are going to change the world because there are people who have anointed you.

I can't teach brilliance and anointings there are people who get it right in the game of life and they have something that they are going to do no matter what school they go to, you know, they just know how to do it, they knew how to do it before they got here and they were doing it to do and these people just need to see what it looks like to overcome the smoke screens of the public humiliation of bankruptcy I was in debt uh the fear of loss I lost my mother or the fear of death, you know what other fears, uh, there are many fears, but the thing is that when you eliminate, like even in schools, you eliminate prayer, you eliminate God, you eliminate the fear of God, you create the possibility of fear of everything else, except looking.

This if you instill the fear of God you eliminate the fear of anything else and it's not that I'm not afraid I'm definitely literally shaking and with so much fear of my father I fear God and I don't fear anything else there is some power on the right, like if you just had a mind management tool there is real power in that because a lot of people are afraid of every little aspect of life bills debt love and relationships and if you have a higher power and this is one of the things that I always wanted to do what is the main word that you use even out of fear this is the main disease that people use in politics is the main fear is that but it is a main word it is the disease that attacks the world because it destroys you it changes your posture changes your idea is worry, yeah, worry, yeah, anxiety, that's right, that's what stress is, like it could kill you, you can't be free, you can't be free to take risks to be worried about things like a yeah honest so to be able to anchor and remove the worry and say this, I'm walking on a straight path and I don't have to worry about anything, I don't have to worry about going to jail, I have to worry about getting killed.

I don't have to worry about bankruptcy, I don't have to worry about um, you know, uh, humiliation, you know, because this is coming, this is where Smart Alec's prayers can take you. I used to have this really clever exit sentence. I said God save me. from the pain and then he took my mom away, so it's hard to hurt that much again and create him almost like a character like Deadpool. I'm like Deadpool to God, like there's no noise, there's no human noise that can and you know someone tried to like me. There was a friend of mine who liked a really bad move where he tried to say he was using this lawyer and he was about to work with him and he said the lawyer said he wouldn't work with you until you finished my contract and I I was like you don't know me at all I'll be the type to cut myself if my hands are like that I'll cut my own hand I'll go back to the room Be like me, what are you doing here?

I thought we tied you up. I'm like and then I'm going to do like Luke Skywalker. You know, you know, Han, and this is something I want to say and it's about to make me angry. Here, the first time you see me get angry in the interview, they said George Lucas' prequels are worse than Disney's corporate Star Wars. I'll be angry with that too, as if it were a ridiculous revenge of the Yes, if we saw how Darth Vader was made, yes. like I saw it like 10 times doing covet like don't jump anakin I have the advantage those first movies were pure they were pure no I'm not saying even the prequels are better than anything that and I'm sorry, Disney Star Wars design team, I know that They'll like to put my face in the office and say, "forget no man," this is George, this is his baby, that thing was put in his heart to show us his children, the hero's journey, you know, and these. things like, how can we run back and play again, like even at Disney, you know, there are people you know at Pixar that are gone, people are gone, you know where they call.

I forget the exact title, but I say every time it's a new idea, they call it an untested idea, so they'll get to Toy Story 800,000 and billions frozen before there's a new concept, uh, to take a chance, yeah, to take a risk, yeah, and we've been, we've been programmed like when you see the houses, you know the houses, the style of houses that I've been developing, they're much closer to the way the galaxy looks, the way it looks the water, the way our composition feels in our body, uh, we've been, uh, we've been put in these boxes and that was, you know, because of the money they make from the construction, that we have to be in these these boxes and we've been stuck in a loop like in uh

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world where she had to use the people who enslaved her and who trapped her to do it, you know, uh, and it's funny when I like the box and when I talk about farming, I had a point about farming that I didn't finish.

I hired this guy before to do the concept from A to Z. I made it clear as day, so everything we cook in the school kitchen we plant here and they would just make it 70 percent, they would make it. 60. percent earlier, when I had that point, I mentioned this whole riff about kids needing to learn physics and kids needing to learn how to actually do things and not have this separate thing like we're programmed to lock ourselves in a box and do it. which is amazing right now. It is the opportunity and the platform that we have that the world is suffering for everyone, for those who are in power, for those who are inside the program, even those who are in power are still part of the program and you know, I read this , uh, this. tweet someone said i finished watching netflix what's next and that's so true we can't even program enough to satisfy ourselves the show is finished forrest gump stopped running and just turned around it's like this is all a setup the concerts that the musicians go to where we don't know, we're not thinking about the fact that we're not getting most of our masters because we're making money off the tour and then the tour has girls and the tour has the the arena singing your song and I need you right now you did well champion you know like uh with floyd mayweather um he's a hero of mine and so excellent because he's a champion right, but he wasn't either I'm afraid to say I make my deals I make my money and what I like is you know he didn't let the old system tell him how to spend his money or how to show his money, it was up to him because he is his own king, you know God is the king of all of us, but he is his own king and many times in America we haven't seen kings, we haven't seen the royal blood in our bone marrow and the way it manifests now we can show it in rap and the way we put our chains on the way we dress, We can show them the way we play ball and stuff like that, but it's another frontier to be a king, well, there's also something where you feel diminished by the fact that you know your money is being stolen by people who They don't deserve it so if you have some record executives if you have some people that you know have you involved in a positive deal and they you're making millions while you're making thousands that with your head yeah it just makes you worry it makes you stress you out it gives exactly anxiety if it touched you it could drive you crazy yes it could drive you crazy yes yes so not yet I don't understand how they convinced you to take medication, I wish I had known you better back then because I would have made you exercise.

I would think to tell you whatever I'm doing, you can't do it, you have to understand that differently. people have different amounts of energy, they have you, you have the ability to have these thoughts that are really all-encompassing, where you have these long trains of ideas and thoughts in your head and you are implementing them, this is all good, this is , this is. something powerful I don't think it's a negative thing at all, I mean some of this comes to you know I'm dealing with issues that aren't just you know black and racial issues that I'm dealing with uh maverick you know ground breaking issues Yeah, I'm dealing with, you know, so many issues where there are walls, you know, invisible walls and invisible chains, like you know, Michael Jackson dealt with like a black musician or an urban musician where he had to go and, um, urban, he came . with the thriller, he says, let me go find this person that he directed, which is Eastwick, I'm going to get a film director and he changed, you know, movies forever.

I'm dealing with some walls that you know people have made to hold up. back uh agents of change throughout history you know it's like the movie is here like this part you know us talking right now it could be a scene from the movie of my life uh like tesla was, you know, a white man who was a womanizer and he would be going to all these fancy events and all that and he kind of stopped having sex at 40. Yeah, and he said, "You know, I'm going to focus on it" and I mean he died, he died penniless in the end, you know he didn't.

I'm going to say he turned evil but he's trying to sell a bomb and he had all these similar responses, uh, that would change the construct of society and my best example is that Kodak is in a place where they can barely pull themselves together now, but They invented the digital camera and they didn't bring it to the market because they had all this film to sell well. One of the things that's really challenging for me is that I designed this thing. we called it foam runner and we built a factory for it and cody and you can do this in 25 minutes and what I'm saying about the design, I was talking to one of the amazing designers that we just got over yeezy. we had an incredible team, we hadguys that Nike sued us about and one of these guys, I was trying to hire him for two years, he had to have a meeting, he had to go surfing for a year and now he's in and when as you know, it's a cad drawing, it's almost like a gunshot, a death, you know, sometimes you design things, you have to do it five eight times, like the first one, which is so close to being ready to go to market because it draws a certain way and for a long time we said, you know Come on, um, I've been saying I want to get rid of the laces and we still have shoes that we sell with laces because it's a popular shoe and people love this shoe and it hurts, I feel like Steve Jobs trying to take the buttons off the side. from the next block and one of the interesting things about this, if you look at most of the sneakers, if you look at your sneakers right now, they have a tongue, you know? it's going in this direction this is one of the innovations about this is one of the reasons why this is one of the most important sneaker designs is this is going this way because it's ergonomic and I remember putting it on and it felt uncomfortable by wearing it because I'm I liked the way a Jordan or something like that fit with my jeans and I remember talking to Kobe and him about having to make sneakers that fit with the jeans and that was a big thing because you know that's with what we grow.

I know coco jeans and jordans or something so um this I also feel like just the process when I design I become like a three year old I have to go to my gut I have to forget everything I know and really focus on which i feel like like a straight jedi yoda or like i could grab that water bottle, wouldn't it have been cool if i had done it right now? I should have had a magnet there that you feel like he know like I, this guy is a magician, um, like that, like that, to me, you know I'm going to make this shoe cost twenty dollars and you know the money ain't real, that it means the world should eventually be free so I'm going to manifest the The world is free my dad lives in a hospital and he says you know everything you put in the ground grows so why do people still go hungry ?

And I like that in theory, but I thought farming is very difficult, although I think you know I might go hungry if I have someone to grow this food, but you know, back in the days when we had that skill set, now we're losing these skills that we can actually maintain, uh, so with this, uh, and I. I love giving them my riffs. I'm like a human version of Instagram. When you look at Instagram, look, you know it seems like a hundred pictures a day. Well, I have millions of images in my mind and most of them. of them have not been realized yet, you know, there are some images that are from my memory, but I have all this, the future that is in my mind and that must be brought, so this is, you know, you talk about the exaggerated culture and the shoes that are sold in the You know the resale market and Yeezy lives there, but you know I don't like the idea.

I don't love the idea that some of the reasons people buy it is simply because of the hype culture or you don't have it. this or I have this color scheme and you don't have that kind of mentality, I mean, I'm an essentialist, I'm a minimalist and because I have to, I'm going to bring a to z completely into our existence. version of existence like victor gruen designed the malls but he designed completely utopian communities and people were like oh we're just fine with the mall, that's all we want and these ideas that he'd never had came true kind of like Disney sort of epcot center based on victor gruen, but this next frontier of these communities and villages of happiness are much closer to a Kenyan village than a gated community, uh, village, but one of the things about your aversion to hype One of the good things about hype culture is that if people get into your products, they get into you and they get into your ideas, and all those ideas you have will become part of their buying process. thought.

They'll start thinking about it and say, "Hey, he's got great points." If people are really interested in you, they will also be interested in your ideas. I think one of the things that makes people uncomfortable with you is that you have courage. having all these bold ideas and implementing them and doing all these different things that annoys people and there are a lot of people who don't have that kind of courage and they are overwhelmed with anxiety and they see a guy like you and they like to try to find flaws they try to find things that are bad instead of looking at the positive aspects they only focus on the negative aspects I don't think I don't see it that way I have never seen it that way.

Look, you look at that guy who does anything. There are people like Tesla and there are people you know. There is a person who killed animals with Tesla ropes so that people would not be like Tesla. Yes, the personal citizen. Yes, the person who made The Electric Chair would take over Tesla's courts so that people don't like Tesla. Tesla still has inventions that have not been brought to our society that would have brought more simplicity and happiness to our society, such as Westinghouse's ability to transmit electricity through the air. which is fascinating, I don't know if that would have worked in today's world with cell phones and all the different electronic devices and even you know modern air travel, I don't know, I don't know what would have worked, but things would have been different people. who are designing industries where they see they can make some money instead of stepping back and saying, how can we see the entire Earth as an opportunity to liberate everyone and create happiness for everyone?

So there's only one b, there's only one. billion people on the Internet, you never think that there are seven to eight billion people on Earth, but then there are only one billion people who are influenced and who are on the Internet, we feel that the Internet is everything, there are only 15 , you know, 16. 18 of human beings, but for our civilization to survive, we have to make more human beings than we have, we have family, we have to have food, we have to have shelter, we don't have to have the Internet. We don't have to have music we don't have to have you know, it's a conversation, I mean, I mean, it improves life, yes, it improves the quality of life, it's better, but look at the music, look, look, look what information where we are, we're uh, we're putting it like I feel bad when I listen to rap songs.

I feel bad about even the things you know I posted recently. I thought, "You know what fools sound like." the imitation man like why is that I just don't like that message because we are all the imitation of our parents and the imitation of this invitation and then the imitation of Adam and Eve you know we are and we are uh we are all the next versions should be the v2 v3 v4 as you know michelangelo and da vinci had the same teacher you know there are times when you know people work with me or they just say like my apprentices or whatever it will come out and they I will do something that I wanted to do and then I'm torn because as a man you know I'm jealous and proud at the same time and it's like a father-son relationship. relationship because sometimes when the sun sets and he is more successful in things, the father wants to say that it is a good job, but every time the son does something that is a good job, he reminds the father of his failures, yes , so it's just I mean it's and it's a strong dynamic that I have to lean on God to not be like you know this uh this like uh asshole who's jealous of you know people who are innovating or taking you know the finish line. because we have to realize that we are in a relay race of humanity at a certain point, whoever you know, what the inventors made in the past, is now delivered to the inventors, today is delivered to the next suppliers, well, the good. about walls and perception and all that is like a smaller barrier to entry that allows there to be, you know, a Walt Disney, a Steve Jobs and a Henry Ford, so what I'm doing now is there's a real barrier for entry into building houses, communities and farms like you can't, you can't just do it like you can, you just know it's hard for someone to leave, I'm not saying it can't happen, I'm just saying it's hard for someone to go from programming and publishing his music on the internet today to what michael jackson had to do, that same entry was so hard for him, i mean, since he, this guy was the leader of jackson five when he was five years old like his whole life happened and this is what he focused on and he did it and everything focused on that so he made the great michael jackson now I want to make this comparison of disney uh steve and uh uh henry ford and what is yeezy it's very difficult to make houses is as a corrupt industry you also have against How many times have you started on a house and the contractors like to start overcharging for things and the budget ends up being double? amount and it's twice as long look if you were in a relationship, that's why relationships are a better currency than uh than um than money if you were in a relationship with the contractors if you were part of their family your house would be ready quickly, sorry which is a practical joke for the rich about how long it takes to build houses.

I was at the airport and there was a first class line that was super slow and there was a bus area with like eight openings and there was no one in it and then I jumped and this other gentleman jumped with me and he went through that line and we passed, but the Rich people with Hermes belts did not want to lose their position so much that they preferred to wait in the first class line than have time. Go back and analyze that now, this gentleman is a surgeon who works on people's hearts through their feet, so it's like that kind of medical serger engineer mentality and he's like, yeah, I have money because this is what I'm in. doing, but I'm here for service and I have the mentality that I'm no better than the person that's on the trainer, which is why we were the only two that went through it, how do you get out of this when I go into this?

I even find a question: what are you thinking there right now? There is nothing good, yes, yes, there is no reason to worry about it, yes, you have this thought. Do you have a rigid process with which you organize your day? How do you look? I have so many different thoughts and so many different things happening simultaneously, like how do you organize your day? Do you have a ritual? Do you have yes? I take my children to school. I take my kids to school and I stay at school. with them all day and you know I'm in the kitchen working with the best chefs on the planet to create this.

You know these healthy menus and I'm working with the farmer so the school I'm at is also um. It's like that again, I don't want to disrespect NASA. I was going to say New NASA, but, um, of humanity, we're anchoring it around our children, so that's what my day consists of, but also the last few months. I've been going to Atlanta two days a week or three days a week uh because I'm building this uh 120,000 uh oh I'm not supposed to say I'm building we're building a sound stage, but um and but it was funny because I go back and forth on the content.

Should I work on content? Should I work in technology? I have all these website ideas and tech ideas and sometimes I thought, "I'm cursed by technology like it's me." Don't you know I don't have any curses um or God has let me break the curses and break the chains I prefer to say I don't know if content is my calling like sending messages like let me show you what school of the future It seems like let me show you the monasteries of the future. Let me show you the farms of the future. But it's already 20 years into the future, like it's 2020, like we're supposed to be in the future by the year 2000, so it's my job to move into the future now and that's something I struggle with when I talk about the different things that I'm doing, I get into the idea of ​​making content like content for Netflix or content for Hulu and I like that content because I think we're in the movie I think we're in the game that we're in like Grand Theft Auto, there's too many things lining up and we can't terraform what we can do it's like your Grand Theft Auto character just started redesigning. the world itself likes to paint its own, its own world, we have this opportunity to make life as fun as these second lives, but if we look at how politics simply general unhappiness, misery controls the speed at which they go the contractors, the farmers who wouldn't finish the farm.

The way we are with each other is the reason why people feel like everyone is going to walk in like this smart player into a second life and I think our first life can be just as imaginative, uh, and it will be like that, that's how it is me and I have a lot. from friends who work in the gaming industry and I have friends who work in the content industry and I say I'm drawing on real life to make real life as awesome as games to make real life as awesome like movies, me too Answer the question about my schedule every day, yes, but I mean you, so you basically follow what you feel like working on you, basicallyyou start the day, you do your thing with your kids, and then whatever these ideas you have, you just nurture them. them, you just encourage them, you just feed whatever thought you have in your head, well, yeah, but what I was expressing about that in that last symphony that I gave you was, uh, this, uh, was, um, I have this challenge. , that's where I am. designing, I'm actually designing what I'm doing with my time, saying, should I even attend a meeting? like when I have a meeting, I know if it's a good or bad meeting if someone is talking to me and I'm just sleepy I know that's not what I should do but if someone is talking I'm you know energized I like to say the word energize about the word excited because this is what they do to all of us, they catch us excited, excited and anxious, they go together like someone could say: hey, I bought you a new car and it's across the street, you get so excited that you cross running down the street and you get hit by a car trying to run to your new one, but if I'm full of energy from having the car, maybe you look both ways, look, I played this dictionary game with something like this, uh, this little dictionary Webster's Pocket Book, and we'll go to a page and we'll say: go to the page with the word help and we say highlight all the words that you think are positive and then we talk about why you think that's positive so the word help is like It was like a bad leg on a table that you think you could stand on, but if you stand right there that table could turn the room.

The definition of the word help is to ignore and it actually makes sense. You know, oh, if you have a meeting, here's the answer when you know the meeting didn't go well. After it didn't go well, the person says so. Oh, how can I help? That means they don't want to do anything. Let me give you a phone number. You know, the word is guarantee and then there are many words that end in ure, which are very powerful, future, secure, pure, endure. and um that goes into the rhyme because I'm literally trying to figure out the video game at all times and see where these things are, uh, in parallel, I know this can turn into a riff where people like, okay, yeah , you're missing what you're saying right now, but look at that, look at the dictionary, look at these words, I have friends, uh, that English is their second, third or eighth language and they say that English is the hardest language to learn because there are many. words for uh for that mean the same thing it's like it tears me to the core that my daughter has to learn two the difference between two t-o-o and t-o I just want to be like just draw the number two like just do it like sometimes I don't I don't know when you know the difference.

I'm a terrible speller and I think there are curricula that are European curricula that don't even apply to our genes. You know who we are as people, as people of African descent. Don't even talk like that, like this is a skill set, but I still talk white, basically, like if you're a black pastor, you know, give this amazing sermon or you're going to marry someone. I was at a wedding and this guy. He said wow, he speaks very well, what do you mean? Well, super white talk, yeah, that's the definition of good, right, they're just sounds that you use and to communicate ideas, right, yeah, it's funny, I told that to a friend of mine, um.

I actually met Williams I said uh, Givenchy I didn't expect to see him I didn't expect I mean I expected to see I didn't expect to see him and we were in the Mercer lobby and he caught me off guard and I It was like he didn't use words when when I saw him I liked him almost communicate in a different language, like a language like joy or happiness, only 30 percent of our communication is verbal, so masks really throw me off. because I can't tell what someone is thinking and feeling because many times half the time people don't say what they are thinking and feeling and I have to decode with the mask I can only hear what they are saying that is also the problem with the social media, right, yeah, things are black and white and things are taken out of context, I mean, that's why people like you love the show and say, oh, we got the yay joe rogan that we can hear. he goes into all these riffs, yeah, and we can feel it, you can see, you know how I look, you can see my energy and the way I say it too, yeah, and you see people sitting around having a real conversation. real conversation, yes, and a conversation in which anyone who comes to this program does not have this type of things, like sometimes with reporters, they have like people who are media, they have a complex, you don't have a complex, You're like me, come on.

First of all, to clarify this, if I wanted to, I could spank your butt. I'm Joe Rogan, I'm a professional wrestler. Now let's start the conversation, which I think is another reason. Like with Nick Cannon, he's like a man. I married Mariah Carey. I did it. All of these and both interviews have been very positive because people don't have something like a kind of chip on their shoulder where they have to tie each sentence together. Sometimes I talk to journalists, it's as if they were saying what they wanted. Tell this kid in high school that they never got around to completing the conversation and that they're taking it out on me.

I'm like, yeah, I think there are a lot of people who have conversations with other people and also want to create a viral moment. that it's not just a conversation, they have an agenda, it's almost like you're talking about the Disney Star Wars movies, so it's not a work of art, it's a formula like two plus two equals four, let's put that together and we'll make some money Instead of the original Star Wars, which was the Hero's Journey, which was like a Joseph Campbell book, it's like there's beauty and purity in it, it's an expression like someone comes up with an idea and they do it. will perform. and then you can watch and you say: wow, it moves you, the new movies don't move you and it was a group of thought leaders who, like me, it was brian de palma who told george to put the words at the beginning because it's like really the only thing I've felt is that when I talk up to this point I've just been doing thanks, you know, and then the Star Wars toys haven't come out first, which would be like you know, like the Yeezys or something like that and now some they do the whole star wars in real life like backwards like the product came first like disney like disney he was mickey mouse he became super popular before he could get all his imagineers uh imagineers on I want to point out you know when people talks about being self-absorbed or the center of your own universe um, what is the name of the main character of Star Wars, Luke Skywalker, who created Star Wars, George Lucas, oh, but he wrote? but he hears that last name, yes, that's it, yes, George Luke, yes, yes, he is the main character of Star Wars.

Get this esther and it was amazing. Yes, there is something between things that are purely correct versus things that try to recreate something that people. you're going to like it there is a difference and it's in the music, just like your music resonates with people because it obviously comes from your mind, while some people are creating songs that they think will be hits, they are creating top 40 It comes from my heart and from my insides, but when it is purest, it comes from God and I am being used as a channel. It's like when Tanya Harden did the triple flip, you know she had all that skill and then at some point, It's not called a trip, I'm about to say trippy triple lindy like Rajiv or Rodney Dangerfield or something, but there are moments where We do things that seem superhero level and I think that's what Knight Shalamon was asking us. with shatterproof glass, uh, and what was the other one with the guy with multiple personalities, just like he has three of these movies that are like showing us, hey, you guys are superheroes, can you believe it, the biggest disabler of our abilities, our biggest. our greatest kryptonite is doubt, you know, fear, yeah, doubt, like, why, um, you know, I like to go to, why did I register so late, uh, to run for president, covet, like, I remember like I had, uh, I had the virus and I was sitting. you know, quarantined in my house and my cousin texted me saying he was ready to run for president and I just completely left it out because I was shaking and you know, having smoothies and taking hot showers and eating soup and you know, just sleeping, I don't think it was that bad, I think it was a mild case, um, and it just got sidetracked, I mean, it threw everyone off, it threw everyone's plans off and then you know it was just this call to me. heart and me.

I remember talking to really elite people, um, you know, writers, you know, I was trying to avoid saying white supremacists, but like elites like liberal elites, you know, boy, who you're going to vote for, you know who you are to run for. for office and why would you run for office, you know, if you can't even get on the ballot, people tell me that and I could get on the ballot, it's like there are black mothers that go to the hospital and the doctor. . I'll tell them that something is wrong with their son for this to be happening to this date and then when people say, you know, you're like a pawn to the Republicans, the reason I think people ask me is that. because because the Democrats create black pawns, they have celebrities that they sit down and meet with and tell them you're going to be an advocate for the Democratic party and you know they all say the same thing and I'm not trying to. take either side as Republicans or Democrats, I'm just saying why, why did people think so much that I was like some kind of pawn and then the idea that you know, liberals would say the funny thing is liberals, I think? uh, and I don't know if I could classify myself as a liberal, but I'm definitely kind of an elite liberal.

I wrote my beautiful dark and twisted fantasy as if it had some of the best writing, so that would put me in that class, so to speak, but I'm also a purist because I see a Kenyan home and I think it's beautiful right there. I'm not like I have to have one of the most racist things that liberals who pride themselves on not being racist have told me: you're going to divide the black vote and that makes it seem like black people can't make decisions for themselves and that You don't know, white people know me like me.

I'm like only liberals, they literally do it by saying only black people will vote for me, right? Think about that statement, the nuance of institutionalized racism and this would be like someone in the art world, you know, I mean, they just have a place where no one has really been able to accept the idea of ​​black people not being in a block and being stay in one place, or that the blacks have a devoted democrat, yes, or that the blacks have an opinion like that we are not on the boards of directors or that we are managers of other blacks, which means as if we work on a label or We work in a big corporation, it's our job to go talk to other black people, you know, to calm other black people down, but we're working for, you know, uh universal or vivirdi or uh, whatever the organizations are.

Did you know I was thinking about purchasing my master's degree and realized it was too small a thought? I'm going to buy Universal. They are just a 33 billion organization. I am one of the greatest producers of products that has ever existed. I am and I am a child I am 43 years old I had a debt of 53 million dollars uh uh you know four years ago and now it is proven that I am the new Michael Jordan of the products I went to adidas and we were a 15 billion organization lost 2 thousand billion before Kova reached our market capitalization was 68 billion.

I went to the gap and I partnered with the gap and our shares went up 45 in two hours, the organization made two billion dollars and two in two hours and now we have doubled, I mean, the gap was uh, the limit of brands was lower than Yeezy, it was like three billion dollars when I first got there, now it's like seven eight billion dollars and we haven't even launched the product yet, but what I loved. You know, I sat there and I made the deal without being on the board and I looked at my cousin and I didn't want to sign the deal without being on the board and I looked at him and I said, "I'm doing this for you means this is part of a relay race, it would be a fact that if someone of color was in your position, my position of influence would be on the board, but Michael Jordan had to break down walls and Michael Jackson had to break.

We break down walls so that we break down the next walls and the next ones. next walls are the boardroom because you know what the boardroom is, it's an opinion, look, people are fine for us to play basketball and you know how to rap and make clothes, but society is ready. It's not really used to refine the fact that we have an opinion and I can understand why because what is our opinion based on if we grew up thinking we were slaves if our opinion is not based on hey my dad taught me how to run this company you know my dad is smarter than me and everything I wanted to do, black people thought I was crazy and I had to do it with white people who thought I was incompetent because I was black and the way these companies and the way the music industry works.

The way managers and societyThey generally look at black people is the way a misogynistic man looks at an attractive woman. What can you give me? What can you do for me? No one, a misogynistic man, is not going to look at an attractive woman and say. Can you run my company so you know this idea about me? You know, and I have like you know I'm building my factories. I just simplified the design and I was working with a guy who, you know, is helping me. I know he built some of the factories. He was an older white gentleman and he matter-of-factly says we're sitting in his house.

In Malibu, it's a good day. In fact, he says Adidas will never put you on the board. And I think this wall has to come down, like you don't have the guy who has the best idea, so one of the great things with universal, one of the approaches we have is, you know, universal, when Jimmy Iveen and Dr Dre . beats sold by dre uh universal had the opportunity to buy or do different things they sold it for three billion dollars, which was half of universal's value at the time of six billion because of the Internet, which the music industry feared at 2000 universal now I think it's worth 33 bills 35 billion dollars um and now they have another steve jobs, you know, howard hughes henry iv disney elon, kind of character among them, but they are very concerned about controlling the idea of ​​the artists because You are using Me as this artist who has attracted other artists.

I use them too. I became famous. I made some money. I had a tour. You know, I became a superstar. So now we use each other. This is just an adjustment that needs to be. fact in the relationship and I can and will make products that make more money than they are worth universally, but it's not about the money like I said before, it's about the fact that even though my net worth is five billion dollars and I am one of the most famous and influential God fearing Christians on the planet, I have yet to go to this man or this organization and ask him for something and that's what it's all about, you can have a business right when you go and create your companies, don't think because you have the most property. you actually have control if you don't have the information and the knowledge of how distribution works and you're not having that conversation, you don't have control, so what I did in my organization with universal, with gap and with adidas I told my lawyers, my managers, everything.

No one can contact these organizations except me. They can give me advice, but they have to talk to the boss, which is me, and that's when the flow of information begins. I guess who is my CFO, who and me. That means I have time. I make 10 to 15 transactions. What I do is pay because I had open credit cards. I had checks. You know, I had people coming and going. He had consulting agreements like people who weren't in it. salary but they were consultants that I had, you know, people who pay for flights, hotels, cars, food, Netflix, like everything, just managing the account, even right now I cancel all my credit cards except one, this is like moment of Oprah Winfrey in which she is as a man.

When I started spending money I thought I really realized how much I was spending and I signed all my own checks and what happens in the music industry is a lot of industries like people tell you that someone needs to do it. do something for you and it's like look this siri does everything for you you know you can do it it's possible and it's just when you ask me how do I delegate my time is it important for me to delegate my time if I made 210 million dollars last year and Yes, I have many nonconformist ideas.

I'm working in cities, homeless shelters and farms and I'm reinvesting, so a lot of mavericks, you know, will spend their money on their ideas and they'll invest in what they see in the future. es and I ended up with a net worth of 10 million. I remember a month ago people were saying that you can't show your taxes because people won't understand that you're a billionaire if they see that you only made net profits. 10 million last year and after the gap deal happened my net worth went from 3.3 billion to 5 billion and I had been asking people around me to publish the story and they were going to publish it with Bloomberg, never They published it, I wasn't afraid. of people looking at me like I'm not a billionaire and I said "be honest, show my taxes, show everything and then the reports came back, oh you're worth 5 billion" I was only honest when I want to say something about the gap deal too and specifically the name of the gap in me and my journey with that at 16 years old I worked in the gap.

I always saw the gap as if it were the clothes block. I always had this comparison with the siege. I always felt like I was. steve jobs from the gap was something about how clean he was and how mickey drexler had done all these commercials and as you know, at 16 I was working at the gap and they fired me for stealing and I was actually stealing khaki pants. I was stealing khaki pants from my friend funny thing look, I stole khaki pants for my friend when I started making music at 19 18 years old I went and bought a chain I came home one day I didn't see where the chain was and I discovered that my friend was smoking crack and stole my chain, so the guy I was robbing ended up robbing me um, but um, they're khaki pants, I was stealing some khaki pants, I wanted those khaki pants so bad, so 27 years later, you know, I give him my life to God. and I started doing the Sunday service, one of the things that I had to do for the Sunday service or that I had to do that was fun for me was to design the wardrobe for the Sunday service and we would redesign the t-shirts and it says in the Bible, that Jesus wore a seamless garment, so we started building t-shirts where the scene was just here or just two seams on the shirt or moving it around and what the collar was, and I made t-shirt after t-shirt after t-shirt. and Christianity we said we were in the gap, so look at this, this opportunity comes up and I always had clothes that were a little cold like I could be in the gap, they weren't too fashionable and God said you, you, You stayed in the gap and I.

I'm going to really make you stand in the gap and give you a favor and a raise and I know for some reason I know someone who all that design and t-shirts will come in handy. I was literally designing t-shirts for Sunday service like David working in the field tending the field you know when Goliath came uh they wanted one of their brothers and the warriors to face Goliath and their father chose David and David said I don't need all this armor I just I need these three smooth stones, I just need you to know, that's how I came to see that they didn't know that David had to fight a lion and he had to fight a bear, so God for him takes care of filling him with humility and service . to god and honor his family he was able to have the skill set to defeat goliath we took to the streets you know that's a term i had to learn wall street we took to the streets like you've never seen before i used to be in san fran asking people to invest in me no one invested in me when i went to a wedding in san fran with all these billionaires and investors angel investors you should have seen people's faces they were like you jumped off the three point line you ran a stock in 45 percent, see, think about this, you're going to split the black vote, you can't vote for that, you're just a rapper, you're just, it's like all these things that diminish me, yeah, and now it's like Deadpool like me .

I came back as a superhero and I won't let that be the kryptonite. I will not let my own ego be my kryptonite. I won't let other people's opinions be my kryptonite. I won't let these labels that people put on me. be my kryptonite and a lot of times I don't like to watch these interviews until you know three four five years later because you always know I'm visiting the now, existing in the future and visiting the Now, when I talk to you, they make a lot more sense in the future. because I can tell you, but he can show you, God can show you, so I'm telling you a lot of things and some people follow me. they're believing in it and some people just doubt it because they want to put this label on it oh he's crazy or he's just a black guy saying it or he's just a rapper he's just an artist he's just whatever so I can say the wildest ideas out loud it's like veronica corningstone wants to be a presenter and i remember she said it ron i told you i wanted to be he said yes i heard you i wrote it veronica corningston had a really funny joke tonight and every time i talk it's literally like veronica Cornerstone had a really funny joke tonight, like when I said I was going to run for president, that was like, okay, go ahead, would you like to chime in?

Do you have thoughts and ideas that you would like to have? be part of your interview, well, you passed from, you passed, from the people angry with you, that you divided yourself in the black vote to the gap and to veronica, I made it, but then I got it back, yes, you did. the vote to run it for you brought you back to the people who doubt you and the people who put limitations on you. People are tuning into this podcast to take the journey with us. Yes, listen, they do or they don't. It's up to them, yes, but do it.

You know, the beautiful thing is that you're not listening to these people, these people who are trying to put these labels on you and tell you what to do and you're not burdened by fear, you're not calmed by doubt. Are you willing to take these risks if you became president? What would you do that was different? I mean almost everything. I was looking at the suits last night. I asked myself: what would you redesign? I don't wear white anymore. They had a white shirt, you know, they had like a I just um I would redesign this I'll do it and it's not a wood right it's not a if it's not a if it's just when right um we have to start with the budget I feel You know, the fact that I went from being in debt to being in debt.

I don't even like the sound of billionaire because we think of Steve Jobs. Money is the least wonderful thing about him and money is. just a tool like it's like nails like it has the most names, you feel like it's written down on the scoreboard, although it shows that it not only demonstrates value but it demonstrates effectiveness, yes, and it's like you're crazy on your right, like this which proves it in some way. that a lot of the things that I said that were crazy, I was actually right about yes, looking at that quote and I think that's part of God's training like Mr.

Miyagi paints defense, you know, Karate Kid, Daniel, son , in that I said like the complete one. description of the analogy uh just in case people didn't um what do you think you would do if they came to you with conversations about foreign policy? People love to talk about foreign policy. That's question number one. Yes, but when I. talk about the budget, you know this, paint the fence, the fact that I had to do it, you know I have to understand 300 million dollars in cash a year that they don't train you for, that's like astronaut training, I have to understand how I have multiple industries that I have to understand how to build and house and provide, you know, I provide healthcare to people and I could.

I had the idea of ​​creating an organization without employees where I put everything in my partners in universal in the gap at adidas. but I think this is amazing training for me as a black person, there are people who have been raised to respect a penny, but as a black person, I was raised to look down on a penny, but people who really care about their money respect every Penny, respect the money and it's interesting that I had an argument with one of my managers because I made my own travel ban in my organization because you know, I did that when I did Sunday service a month and a half ago, 25 flights were arriving. and people i didn't know because there are criminals in my organization trying to kill bob marley not for jfk or mlk but to drain my resources so i created this trip explain what you mean by that and what i mean by criminals in your organization.

What do you mean there are people who are fine? I fired this CFO about three months ago and up until a week ago he still had an open credit card because I'm going to dig deeper and dig deeper and go for it, it's business as usual. is this the new person who is in charge of your money it's like no, I'm the new person who is in charge of your money who is in charge of my money rather that's why you became your CFO that's why I became and it's the best and it's it clarifies my thoughts and it really helps me with the design it helps me while I'm designing uh uh designing uh what I'm doing in the gap it helps me when I'm designing the curriculum it helps me in the way that I'm designing the kitchen, in the way that I delegate, in the way that I work, in the way that I am and being a better leader being a better, being a better listener, wait a second, but there was a question that you had.

If I had responded and given it my all before you went to foreign policy, went to the budget, well, I said it's like Danielson painted the fence, the fact that I really had to look and understand that amount of money and this god. -given the anointing of being a producer, being a head of industry, being fearful and god and servant of god and producer and head of industry at the same time is literally like the perfect combination fora president and to be honest, I'm literally like from time to time, America has to get it. America deserves the world deserves a leader that they can trust 100 percent that whatever I'm telling them with the information that I have in front of me, I believe it 100 percent, like when I talked to the uh, when I was with the president of Haiti and he gave us an island, Shervin Pisivar and I, who was one of the first angel investors in Uber and is working on uh the virgin hyperloop right now, a great friend of mine, he saved me, he had me . avoid agreements where I was going to give up a percentage of my company for a third of the value and different things like that, so we go to Haiti and the president gives us this island to develop it and make a city of the future and we will also make the farmers and the people who live there take a percentage, that is, they will take possession of the land that they have right now, so that when it increases in value, everyone eats from uh, what's the idea, but he said that um.

The way he has done business with our president is so simple. I think I know that I, as president, would be the best thing that ever happened to American foreign policy. I've traveled more than any president and I bring people together. I put rivals in songs together to create masterpieces. I go and I empathize when I meet with leaders in Africa when I meet with leaders in um, I didn't really have anything good. The next thing I wanted to sound good and I liked to name leaders and I wanted to. to sound see honestly, so when I meet with leaders I'm not trying to come in and see how they can use my Internet.

I'm not trying to come in and buy their land and develop it. and buy it for cheap, you know, we're going to share information, you know, uh, you know, we have an idea that we just had of a dual citizenship for Americans with African dissidence, uh, that the ability to create environments. and communities can completely change the way people act, you know? if people are hungry they're going to act a certain way people have food they're going to act a certain way people are away from their friends and family they're going to act in a way they're going to need to be in a college town, they have to go through this frat party, you know, drinking and doing, but when they're, you know, you have to go here so then you can go there and, as I see, the Society is about dismantling the family. things are more like a kibbutz or you know where the family can be closer and when the grandparents can be by the children's side and, you know, these ideas that I have about what communities should be are ideas that are simplified on a global level and that They are not based on industry, although I understand that industry is based on serving God and serving families and that is something that everyone around the world, no matter what country in the world, whatever the continental world, all the Moms and dads have something in common that they want. make the world better for your children we all want the world to be better for children and we can show ways in which we do not disagree Think the world is a giant piano but we are out of tune, so for a producer to synthesize those ideas and not say okay, we're going to close I spent some time in China I spent a year in China when I was in fifth grade I used to speak Chinese like it was New York, I don't know much about it, my mom was an English teacher, they had an exchange program where a Chinese student could come to America and she could go where it was like the Chinese at that time couldn't come to America that easily, so you know, America's biggest export is Chinese influence and culture actually. has as imitation imitation of Paris they probably got imitations of calabasas in this they probably have them at this point you know, artists define culture, that's what makes the artist who designed the statue of liberty, there is an artist who designed the eiffel tower this is why i donated 100 million dollars to james terrell's rodent crater uh uh project when i went to this is like the eighth wonder of the world but i saw spaces where we can exist and that would be useful for our health well-being these are healthier places for us we need to be almost like turalyon like our our life is like shakespeare's uh like shakespeare has written 30 percent of uh our language that we use like I say like he must have been a A really nice person like Davinci used to walk away from people when he talked to people and that's why it's The Da Vinci Code and Da Vinci's life because he was never able to pass it on to the level that it would affect us for generations to come. , these people love art but they want to put art in the box, we need to surround ourselves with the artist because artists are the most connected, the most truthful and their dinosaur was never killed somehow, the people who have figured out how to really make a living with art.

What do you mean the dinosaur was never killed? Which means art class would be considered fun since all kids love to draw. Yeah, sure, but some people grew up and liked it. artists right somehow they don't have to yes so separate we are all children we are all if you are if you are alive you are a child we are all children in the eyes of God and we are all young people like Jesus is an older person like him oh like you know like Adam is old you know if you are alive you are young and we are like children and there are all these things these sharp edges these corners these anxieties these fears these things they put in our food our diet our diet of what we consume right here that ages us and makes us brittle and it makes us uh put that fear on our children don't put that evil on me ricky bobby they put that put that we put these evils on our children we put racism on our children we put fear on our children and the children are not afraid the kids it's funny it's like claudio sylvestre one of our main architects that i worked with since i was 24 he built this house in my oracle with john with john paulson and he has this golf course whose acoustics are incredible, but it's this part for the that you can walk that's 20 feet tall and I said, you know? about kids, you know, you have a balcony, you have a railing or something and he looked at me and said they're smarter than we think, wow, and he meant like we were never taught the missing railing theory that We could all walk a tightrope. the railing theory is missing, I wrote it in my book, thanks and you're welcome, I wrote it with my friend sakaya, who is actually here right now, he's who you were talking to before, look, you could walk in a straight line without worrying about nothing. uh, but you take that exact straight line and you put it 20 stories high, 20 stories high, you know I'm going to follow it, yeah, and you take away the balconies, you'll be so worried about the thought of falling that it'll make you fall.

Yes, and that is where the superpower is to eliminate fear. Yeah, that's a beautiful thing to say right there and it's also probably the first unfathomable thing I've said in its entirety. Okay, let me talk to you so we can talk seriously. so let's talk about real presidential issues, let's talk about here are some things that just when we talk about this country here are some things that mean a lot to me a student debt I think it's crazy I think it's crazy that we accept kids when they're 17 18 years we send them to college, we make them literally hundreds of thousands of dollars in debt and then we ask them to go out into the world and try to manage this money and try to get a job that is I'm going to pay them a fraction of what they owe for their education I think it's crazy I think we should find a way to cancel student debt I think we should find a way to make education, at the very least, much less expensive than it is Now this is a big problem for the people.

I am absolutely certain that I will figure out how to get America out of debt. I have the ability once I see everything. I never make the wrong decision when I'm. give all the information that's my skill set anything I go into producing rap house clothes anything once they give me the right information I apply my taste and I have the best taste on the planet I mean quincy jones there are a couple from people who are like Okay, crazy, you don't know, it might be better than mine, but if Quincy, could you imagine Quincy Jones as president?

He could, yes, or Walt Disney, Steve Jobs, maybe some of these personalities are a little volatile, yes, yes, but that's how he gets things done. fact, yeah, I wish America was as warm and welcoming as Disney World was, you know this dream, you know, people still have this dream of coming to them, they come to America like it's the America in the that I grew up. Even when Ronald Reagan was in office, it was like he was hanging out with Michael Jackson and you know, it's like it felt like America, plus the way the media showed things like the American dream was alive and well, and even at the same time in the The ghetto was hell and we were being, you know, since you know, bricks were put in the street, uh, bricks were thrown in the street causing the riots, now bricks are being laid in the street in the Eighties, a different type of brick and weapons were placed. and parents were being pulled out of the hood and this is all this, so don't let me say everything was perfect back then, but perception right now is more important than it's ever been.

We show you you know it's just, I mean, it's direct, it's just uh, I don't even want to, I don't want to, I don't know, I don't want to dwell on it, let's keep talking about what you're saying about debt. because I don't like it either, if you ask me about greed, I can only give you my perspective as a civilian. No, I'm not talking to these same people you know and also empowering geniuses I was talking to. my man, uh, fred and my boy, anthony, about crypto and bitcoin, you know, yesterday just to get ready for this conversation and not about the details of altcoins, which is like ac, which is like tesla, which is like, but, uh, this my mind just goes on with these riffs right here, but, uh, Jack Dorsey decentralized Twitter two months before it actually arrived because he was talking to the Bitcoin guys and these are guys who actually have a perspective. about what the true liberation of America and humanity will be. a lot of them specifically, but a lot of the tech guys were able to use the new highways, the new information highways and create the next frontier of our existence while the powers of our political system are still anchored in the electoral college, which was based in slavery about the idea that slaves are three-fifths of man and get it, it wasn't even created by pro-slaves, three-fifths of man was created by anti-slaves in the north as a compromise and that basically explains the existence . of blacks in America to this day the people who were on our side supposedly said we were three-fifths of the men the people who were on our side the people on our side thought of us as three-fifths of the men, I mean, yeah, come work for us, but you know it's three-fifths of the men sitting, you have an electoral college and gerrymandering to date where, if you have Latinos, blacks, other minorities, they are redrawing the lines to affect the vote to this day.

It doesn't relate to the information superhighway that we live on today that allows all these tech guys you know to become billionaires and lead free thought or let them know as best we can a version of free thought. I know I gave you a symphony, but you see how this all really connects. We are staying. Do you know why we don't stay? Why don't we put our white wigs back on? They still wear the white wigs down. uh, yeah, England, they still use it, you know, that's all. Just because you know someone you don't know is wearing a kkk uh uniform or a white wig, doesn't mean they don't hold on to the very core of the country is, you know, based and built on slavery, so when everyone says vote you know that's the reason why my mercy is to vote for Kanye because you like to vote for who looks man if you're not going to say who you're voting for out loud. don't even wear the vote t-shirt it's so random right it's so weird and we always know voters like democrats and stuff because there's no one it's that trump wearing a vote t-shirt it's not that funny , but it is a great opportunity.

Go ahead, if you say that, yes, you say the vote is primarily a Democratic vote and if you have an American flag, you're mostly voting for Trump, these are realities that we've accepted and they're substitutions, they're all these subliminal things that are that. it's based on fear and control even so look at this all this is three fifths of the man okay the democrats were willing to take the risk of not winning as long as the conglomerate could have full control of how completely in control you know what I'm saying bernie yes bernie would have won he would havewon this is something I used a trumpet I'm saying that Bernie is a superhero yes you know and he would be the perfect the perfect and the perfect person to be the opposite of what Trump represents, yes, he is an anti-capitalist, he is a guy who He's a social democrat and you, but you know the problem, they couldn't control Bernie because you can't, you can't control.

He's been so consistent his whole life, so what I'm saying is that they literally kicked him, if that doesn't say something, it's like they kicked the superhero, you know, saying that they wanted to control, it's the same thing they did with Tulsi. . gabbard but bernie was interesting because he is a democratic socialist because he has these scary ideas about capitalism. You know, he's funny because I created the birthday party and in the next selection what's going to happen is that you guys had 300 million viewers. You know after this it will probably be 900 million because you know I have stock.

You know you just do a little Bill Cosby in that neck. I'd really like to talk to you about specific things, okay, I mean, it was a beautiful long symphony, but there's a limit, there's a pop, no, no, no, we don't want to listen. up, but there's a chance that I could um it's actually technically possible for me to win now, which would be the best option for the United States. I would be on 12 ballots and 17 states that you could write me in. So if people got up, people who never voted, uh, got up and registered and voted for me, they would have to take it to the house because I would know that I could possibly win now.

I'm definitely making 100 in 2024 and with that thought. I thought okay, I had the birthday party, but I was thinking maybe there was a chance. They said that wouldn't happen. I was thinking maybe it would be the Democrat. You know, I don't think they would ever leave you. like that, but I don't know, maybe who knows what will happen after this joe biden, kamala harris thing, who knows, he knows what they think, you know some of them, I would be the first, I'm trying, I'm not trying. I'm one of the first super famous public black people with free will, uh, servants of Christ, uh, since modern media has happened, I mean, when I speak, when I speak, I'm not speaking for a conglomerate, I'm speaking for myself , in the service of God, that's it, that's it, like it's not, you know, I'll cover my people, I'll cover my family. but there's no big plan or something like a practice script where it says you go in and say this, you do this, we have, we want to keep selling Kodak film, so we want to keep you from bringing out the digital camera, we want you to know to sell this The price of gasoline increases, so we are not going to look at how to safely harness nuclear energy or how to generate electrical energy.

Okay, go ahead and ask another question. I really love it. the sound of my own voice, as you can see, apparently it's okay, so it's this microphone that we start, it sounds great, so we start with student debt and we get to this long symphony, yeah, have you thought about the idea of ​​education free? and particularly here is one important for me also free medical care. I think if we think of ourselves as a country and our country as a community, we're all a group of people who are together if we're going to take care of things. like the fire department, if we're going to take care of things like police department education, we have to take care of the health care that we have, we have to do it so that people get sick, they don't go out of business, we have to make it so that no one has to worry about being taken care of and I don't want to eliminate the possibility of someone hiring a private specialist for surgery or anything like that.

No, I'm not saying that, but what I'm saying is that we at least have to cover the basic medical concerns of the population, it's just that it's a giant part of what it is to be a person: worrying about your body breaking down, worrying for being sick. worry about what this is going to cost your family financially and how it could ruin people. This is a big problem in our country, it is medical health. Have you thought about that? people are going through, I think it's not just about how we treat people, there are preventative measures, yes, that can help us not get sick, our diet, our locations, our jobs, there is a lot of that that affects us and makes us. us in those transportation situations that you know when you get into autonomous vehicles and tram systems, like trains that are like floating malls or floating Starbucks or something like movement, like designing our world to be the world of the future will help us with health, that's the preventive message and then in terms of being more inventive in the way we connect holistic medicine with modern medicine, I believe in both medicines, I believe in god, I believe in god and nature, I believe in science and physics and you know it's like the first simplest form of bioengineering, I think it's agriculture and being able to have, like I'm talking about the guys at MIT, the best scientists in the world, there are people who are like that. they're like the elons of the medical field, but maybe they're sitting there on the ground like serving on the front lines fighting greed, uh, where you know they didn't have the opportunity to create PayPal and become billionaires and leave. to the next idea or when they present it and they want people to invest in these inventions that they have, they have not had the voice of the platform to bring this invention, there are cures for things like one of the things is the miracle solution, like what I continued with the medicine when they gave me the medicine that made me gain weight, but then they said, "Okay, we have one that doesn't." We all know what a miracle solution is in medicine, so it's a medicine that goes and just kills exactly what it's supposed to kill, but for capitalism that's not the best medicine to cure people.

Capitalists want to keep people. They want to treat it. They want to treat it. They want to keep you sick because that's how you keep making money. a guy like for me when I say I risked my life I think of abraham lincoln I think of jfk to come in and sit down and say you know the whole thing is not everyone is going to be more prosperous I think that's the word No specifically, you're going to multiply by 5 your money. Everyone likes to try to get a no. It's about prosperity and being able to have real conversations with the top bosses of big pharma and real conversations with the tops of uh of uh holistic and natural. healing to put these people in a room together people aren't even mad at each other they're afraid of each other uh I donated to a Christian school in Cody and I also stopped by and saw this other amazing school. at cody, where they have autistic kids and kids with special needs in the same classrooms as other normal kids and I just saw this juxtaposition and the principal of that school is a Christian, but it's a state school, so there's no prayer in the school and Then the other school is completely Christian, but it is not a state school, so they have no money in the school and I wanted to have dinner with the two directors, they came to look for the director and these guys. talk maybe at a softball game or something the main house is a block walk away the principle that a school has houses a block walk from the school or the other principal we're that close right now we have the solutions but we all have our We're on our backs, we need to face each other and we like how we face each other right now and have these conversations.

The solutions for utopia are in front of us, but what stops us is fear. People are sitting on their money. Sitting under your money, I know I'm going to give you something, okay, that's it, next one, did you get my perspective on the real thing? The way I would approach you would be to bring people together to communicate and try to find a better strategy. for healthcare, yeah, I mean, and actually, some financial realities that have to exist in London when you go to the hospital. No, let me give you the American example. When I go to the hospital, I had something wrong with my foot three years ago.

He asked me, you know, do you want to take something, do you want a pill, I said no, five doctors and nurses ask me if I want a pill, this is worse than when you don't accept water on the plane and they just go on like this. You want some more water, I'll take the water, okay because I don't want to be responsible for the water, like when the plane takes off and does this and I have to hold it in my I don't want to no. water like I don't even know my masseuse said I should drink more water huh so they there are like people who have Christmas parties about bonuses about giving more medicine so we talk about them look at this how much does it cost? land costs exactly no price right, we make money money isn't even backed by gold anymore so it's engineering is where budgets go and like that's the best part of uh one of the best parts of the sixth sense is when um when they saw this video and it was a babysitter they saw that the babysitter was putting things like the porch for the child who had passed away and him and then they said the ladies looked at the babysitter and said you were keeping her sick. you're keeping her sick like we're sick we're sick uh abortion culture sexual culture uh capitalism we're sick we as a people not just the American society of the world we're sick and we stay sick we're all responsible like the Black Mirror episode we're all responsible for some way we all play some role like I go to Pornhub in the next um and I uh and I like to go back and do this because I've struggled with this since I was five years old right and the next thing says something about traffic so literally I would have than to put my hand on that part and click on what I'm going to do and think that I'm not part of the bigger thing. conglomerate we are all oh I'm not really part of the main problem because I'm not as bad as that guy and I'm not watching this part and I'm not like we all play a part in this so we're all sick in some way and the world has been designed to keep us sick how faith-based space engineering can literally save a world how construction will save the world space engineering how to engineer not go to space design our spaces how much space we need how we interact with each other what close we are to our loved ones our families how close we are to our jobs we had to

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a lot of this some people were not good other people it was better that they were connected with their children and their families in a completely different way, as we are talking about, this is my thing, we could talk about all these important current issues, there are deeper reasons based on slave mentality, based on fear, based on protectionism, not specifically. white supremacy and racism protectionism people just want to protect what they have and there's a picture where you're holding the boys, the girls holding a teddy bear and Jesus has a giant teddy bear behind her, um, her back, I mean, behind his back.

She doesn't want to give up the small teddy bear for the bigger teddy bear that Jesus has waiting for her. There is prosperity for all families here on earth right now in the service of God. There is happiness. There is joy. It is not a possibility. It is a probability. Just the fact that God woke me up brought me here safely and allowed me to talk to you right now and awaken the minds of the anointed people to change the world, that's already what God wanted me to do if I didn't take a breath. After this point, God had me here for this conversation right now, but I believe God has more to play with.

I don't think they'll come for me until he's done. They won't come for me until he's done. with me I want to do it so if someone wanted to try and put a beat it would be perfect, they won't come, they won't come for me until they're done with me, they won't come for me. me until he broke up with me uh yeah, yeah, yeah, help yourself, you're always creating now, yeah, but do you understand what I'm saying? Okay, tell me what I'm saying. What you're saying is that your general philosophy is the way. you're getting closer to life you're getting closer to life there is good for everyone if we all work together if we all work together in the spirit the way you think the spirit of god that will not not approach this like it's a famine mentality, but approach this as if there is enough for everyone, there is abundance if we design it correctly if we think about it correctly if we all come together with the spirit of everyone helping everyone this is the spirit of Christianity this is the good spirit of Christianity not Christianity that is despised or belittled or, you know, evangelists who drive around in private planes, the spirit of kindness and treating each other as brothers and sisters, yes, but this can be done on a national scale, yes, because those evangelists or people that spreads the word of God you know there are people who are praying for me you know we are praying like I said I like it okay, yes I am a genius, but one of my coolest skills is recognizing other geniuses, empowering them and giving them the platform, So the people that have been praying for me all this time, you know, that Jaywork for the kingdom, look at me, look at me right here working from the kingdom, without leaning on my ego, without leaning on anything, but leaning on God.

This situation says, let's know, let's stand up together and show people what it's like to be Christ, yeah, we fell short, you know, people love to look at Christians who are less Christ-like to judge Christianity as a whole well. . Many people have Jordan at 23 years old and there are very few who play like Lebron. You know they want to be like Mike, but there are very few people who come this close. You know, it's like, yeah, yeah, what you're saying. It's beautiful, yes, they judge people who fail, people always go to the extreme, like if you talk about abortion culture, people immediately go to rape, but don't do the math on what percentage it is and for me as president Christian, you know, like I said, I continue, I mentioned it before I realized that we are in an imperfect world, you know, when I talk to my Christian brothers and we talk about meat, we talk about weapons, we talk in this imperfect.

In the world, there is a transition between where we are today and where we are going, yes, does the meat industry have a big impact on the ozone? From what I heard, we have to make the transition, one of the things I wanted, is a thought. that came and thank you for allowing me to give you the thoughts that come into my head instead of trying to put me on a grid because I'm off the grid period, the way I think clearly I paint in circles, you know? No, I don't paint within the lines, so I was thinking.

I forget that the lady's name starts with a t, but she changed the meat industry because she was a very sensitive person and she put the cows in a round containers and that's what I'm doing when I say rocket engineering, that's what I'm doing with our spaces that I'm designing with the farms and with the school systems, the unlearned systems, what are the things that we're going to need you to know in the future because in 30 years we don't even know, we think we probably will. Things that we're learning in school now won't even apply to people when they're 30 years old who are learning these things, you know, they get older, especially with technology, especially with technology and the people who design the curricula a lot. before technology, yeah, I mean, I was into computer programming when I was eight and I used to know how to program like I got into music in seventh grade.

I had a friend's computer that had 4096 colors, so I bought that and I programmed the different sprites and drew each of the characters and animated them and I thought that was the next frontier that I would like and since I liked animation books I wanted to be an animator and then I started making music, they had a music show, I made music for video games and then I found myself running home from school all the time. I walk from 95th Street to 119th Street to continue programming music, so this is like the elderly, you know, 12 13, you know how to program video games and, being the gateway to music programming, I have a story longer on that, but I know you want to. to ask me some more serious things, so um ding, okay, this is important, the military, um, if you really became president, when, excuse me, when you become president, you will have to deal with hostile governments. to deal with dictators and hostile militaries, you meet people in other countries who in other countries do not have the value of human life and throughout history we have had immense problems because of that because of military conflicts, how do you think you will deal ?

I mean you're going to be the commander in chief of the greatest army the world has ever known if you're in that position and we have to deal with some kind of military action with China. What if China takes over Taiwan? And if? They invade Taiwan. What happens if something happens with Syria? What if something happens with Iran? What if something happens with Russia and you have to make decisions about military actions? Have you thought about this? Yes, I'd have to say it again like covet, I'm a civilian. and people could have all the perspectives they could have on what they would do in that situation, but I would have the best professionals on the planet, the most skilled people who have all the

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to present the information and I would make the information more solid. . rational decisions and I would follow the will of God in my approach to dealing with these other countries and dealing with these other leaders there is something about the personality of our president and the personality of the leader of North Korea where there is a level of common respect and and that is the reason why they were able to speak and they had taken away our fear, as people who are, uh, God-fearing, who made themselves, uh, servants of their people, these others, you know, Scary dictators, they feel like they are. that for your country and if you see a president that you know is just taking a check or is part of a larger conglomerate now I don't want it like I said, I want to denounce any of the candidates, so it's very, it's very transactional it's um and I just said a sentence in this situation this is not you said a sentence why what what motivated you to say a sentence right there the seriousness the meaning of this topic yes we absolutely can't we can't jump from jokes about this to you know, joking about people's lives, right, we have to be completely still right now, allow God to guide our steps and ask the right questions with the highest ranking officials possible, this is not something that you just wing it or just come in and say that I did a little research, I have this correct political answer, that will make people angry like this, this is people's lives, this is, you know, this is a completely different environment or mood than the one that This whole interview has been about this, you know, people are suffering everywhere in Israel, Nigeria and Haiti.

We are suffering for the police force in Chicago and the people. who have been harmed by the police and the police in this way, everything is going to take a serious time like time is love, it is going to take that love and that time and moments of listening, moments of understanding, moments like when my wife she goes and visits people in prison and she listens to their stories she says I understand I understand why you are in that situation I would have done the same thing in this situation and if we went to foreign countries and really understood why you are you I know you are in these situations or why the murder has lasted so long or why the hate has lasted so long and why the pain continues, you know, aggravating and compacting is the empathy that I have as an artist that doesn't It doesn't become a two plus two equals four situation. .

My father was actually a psychology student and a Christian therapist. And this therapy we talk about, therapy period, it's like we need healing internationally, not just selfishly for the United States. The United States is number one internationally. We need healing and I would lead with love and dignity in responsibility towards our country, covering our families of our soldiers and in full service to God and the American people. There's a way I would be in that position like When I was a producer and I was a very young man, I would run around jumping on trains or, you know, jumping styles and stuff like that and I liked stealing cars and I don't mean stealing cars, but to steal clothes from stores and, then, he sold music. and you know, going shopping for leather jackets and stuff, then you know, hanging out with a bunch of girls that went on tour and then I had a family and I had to adjust a lot of my mentality and behavior to grow up and be the man that I needed. to be then God called me and I gave my life to Christ and God is helping me to be the Christian that I need to be and when it is in God's will to make me the leader, I will become the leader that I need to be right.

Now, like I said, I'm a civilian, but my heart and my mind and my spirit are in a place where I feel like I know I'm being called to captain this ship, like when Roosevelt came in, America was in ruins when I when I said those things. about those numbers when I went to adidas when I went to the gap like he's the person you really call when things aren't going so well you know you have that mafia movies he's the guy that goes and cleans everything and puts everything. I'm like the coroner, where in the same way you saw my mind playing ten things at once and then I had to say ten sentences at a time if I could say them. or maybe reduce them to seven, that's how my mind takes the information and then synthesizes it and it comes out as a song or it comes out as a product using that mentality as a fearless leader, God fearing, we will heal, we will heal. show the world what america should be like the dream you said all this all the things you've said in the least political way i've ever heard someone describe these things i know you really mean these things this is this is resonating with me you're being hundred percent honest and natural and that is what we lack in politics today.

I mean, it's one of the things that got people excited about Trump, because at least it was an alternative to the political talk that he was. an alternative to politicians' speeches where you know they are being dishonest and insincere but you just accept it, you know they are reading things that have been written by speechwriters but you just accept it because it says the things you want to hear. the boxes that will say okay, you got my vote, what you're saying is what you really feel and really think, and you're not saying it like a politician and that's what will resonate and people will get mad at me. if you get pregnant you become president you made

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west seem nice you made him president you made him seem like a rational choice for president this conversation exposes a side of you that I don't think anyone has seen before and a long-form conversation in which you You realize that you are a visionary, you have these ideas, they are real, you are not posing, this is not it, you are who you are, and your well thought out response, particularly to the idea of ​​military conflict, is a very impressive compliment.

God, I'm glad I prayed that prayer brother, listen, we've been at this for three hours, let's end this on a beautiful high note, so people can write to you if they want and we have a video about it. Brian, yeah, except Brian will play this video on how they can write to you and we'll end it here. Here's how to write Kanye West on your ballot now for people watching this on YouTube. You'll be able to see this and on Spotify you'll be able to see it, but if you're just listening, you just have to go to the part where he says or write, it's pretty simple, write candidates.

I show you where you can write it in this video it will be available this video is on YouTube right it's on his uh twitter it's on twitter okay write kanye west on your ballot it's going to be very interesting to see what happens with this I'm telling you man that was one of the most interesting and impressive answers to any question because it was so obvious that you were coming from the heart and that's what we all need right now, we don't need absolutely well, thank you brother, that's how it was. uh, an honor, really, thank you, a pleasure, I'm glad we finally did it, yeah, amazing, this won't be the last time, okay, let's do it again, okay, bye everyone.