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Joe Rogan Experience #1413 - Bill Maher

May 30, 2021
took care of health care said yes, if we were starting from scratch, it would make sense to go to a single payer system, but we are not starting. From scratch we are starting from a system where most people already have health insurance through their employer. It's a crazy story how that happened. It was World War II and they couldn't raise wages because that was the law, so they had to find a way. give employers something extra to give them health insurance, but that's what we have now and a lot of people like it or say they like it.
joe rogan experience 1413   bill maher
I don't think a lot of people like to argue with their insurance company, but they're afraid of something worse and I don't blame them, you know, if you're going to tell me that the government and I'm a Democrat, but if you're going to tell me that the government will easily handle taking care of something that big, I'll be a little skeptical we should be they don't handle anything smoothly there's no evidence that they handle anything smoothly instead of maybe delivering the news well I'm delivering the mail look again like an old school progressive when you go down the list of things that the progressives have accomplished especially during my lifetime.
joe rogan experience 1413   bill maher

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I applauded everyone at Social Security in my life, but they improved it during my lifetime. Medicare Medicaid, these are great programs. I mean, before Social Security, the poverty rate for seniors was like twenty-eight percent or something like that. then it went below ten, it was a success, but when you look at what government has really been about, their big successes have been handing out money that very often they don't have, that's what they're really good at running a care system. giant doctor system, especially when the politicians who propose these systems don't talk enough about how we have to limit the theft that you can't give away all this money if you're going to allow people, hospitals, pharmaceutical companies, to do the work.
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George graphic. Whatever they want when the price of an EpiPen can go from $12 to 1200 overnight, that just can't happen and they're not asking people to lift a finger to take care of their own health, the health care system Nobody's doctor is going to do it. job I'm your get people involved, have some sink skin in the game, you can't like it, not tell people, look, you can't keep eating as much as you want and all the shitty food you want and expect us Let's cover the

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, you just can't. that's not something anyone wants to hear, oh I know because I did that editorial, well people here's this door, people didn't love it until James Corden said something, oh that's right, first it had that hole, it did that and in doing that he made fat jokes, which was what I didn't, by the way, mine, mine was nothing, city sheep in orbit, people seem morbidly obese, first of all, he lost a great opportunity to literally saving lives if he had taken the opposite approach, he took the easy way out.
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Of course, you can always get applause for saying oh, let's boo the bad man who tells the truth, that's not brave. First of all, my point was that you can't solve healthcare unless you ask people to participate in it. one and also that we have gone to this place where we are proud of it we are proud of not being healthy Weight Watchers had to remove the name weight and Watchers from their title is WW now it's like wait, what is C being fat? It's not bad, what's bad is that someone is pointing out that fat is bad, but I read the statistic in that editorial. 40,000 people a month die from obesity.
It's an insane number. It's an insane number. We have to somehow reverse this idea. what we have in this country not only about obesity but about many things in which I am perfect just the way I am mmm, I am just perfect the way I am and if you say different you are a very bad person, that is not a good place to be, no It's healthy for no one. You're protecting people's emotions, but protecting them from a possible moment that could make them realize they're eating themselves to death, right? I mean, look, I said it too in the piece beauties in the eyes.
From the viewer, that's fine, whatever you think is beautiful, that's your business, but health is science, yes, that's science, and when we get apoplectic when there are 50 deaths from shootings or something a month, yes, It's very bad and we should take that problem seriously, but 50 versus 40,000 every month and that's just what they're counting on the big ones, cancer, diabetes and heart disease. There is literally nothing about your health that is improved by being overweight, so you know, I said we shouldn't make fun of people, but you know, compare it to anything. Additionally, I also acknowledged the fact that I used to drink too much and smoke, but I didn't defend it when someone said, "You know, you drank a little hard last night." I didn't say how dare you drink, shame on you.
I, well, the wide one, I said, you're right, I also did something weird with Corden, he's not fat enough to be able to fix that, a couple of months, that's not that hard, no, he took advantage, you know it was an opportunity , yeah, and I felt like saying yes, I could have literally missed an opportunity to save lives because as someone who struggles with weight, I could have taken the opposite approach and said, you know, Bill makes a really good point and we should look at it. as we are. In dealing with this, I realized that Jillian Michaels, the fitness expert, took a lot for Liz Oh, for Liz, oh, yeah, and you know, if you want to be whatever weight you want, that's fine, but it's Bad to shame a fitness expert for saying this isn't the case. t healthy, well the kids even said it won't be so surprising when she has diabetes, yeah, from people, it's not diabetes, that has nothing to do with weight, sure, everything has to do with it, sure, they lie too , they say things like well, it's fat. gene is you know there is nothing it is not that or here is another one and look this is valid it is valid that in this country there is a lot to eat right if you are poor yes and we should totally address that yes doubt if it is on any candidate list of the ten first, but the way the food situation and subsidies are handled in this country is horrible, but since we don't raise our hands and say that we are the country that we can't and, since it is more difficult, let's not even try, yes it is.
It's harder to eat well on a budget, but I'll tell you something you'll never need to drink with your lunch sodas, which are a big part of it, that's fine and you'll save money. You don't have to drink soda. I have to have a Snickers bar and a banana for 19 cents, so it's not impossible that Adèle recently got a yes because she got healthier. That was part of my thing too, being fit shaming, you know, fat shaming, fit people go eat something, eat something. That's okay, so you can feel better about your weight problem. I should eat and get fat.
Well when heavy people have a fan or have someone they are a fan of who is also heavy like James Corden then he is heavy he has people in the audience who love him and love him defending other heavy people yeah we are well, we're fine, he's one of us, we're fine. I think they felt that way about Adele. Adele was this fantastic, super talented, extremely popular, overweight singer. Like, okay, okay, I'm like Adele, everyone's okay, so she loses weight, like you feel like she's betraying you because one of the reasons I liked you is because you're fat, yeah, you're not fat anymore. , that's how it was.
It wasn't long ago that we applauded people when they lost weight, yeah, I remember when I remember when Oprah came out at that time. She was like in the 80's I think, but she had lost a lot of where there is a photo. It is a very famous photo. I think she is like in jeans and she has a very thin waist and you know she would raise her hands and triumph and everyone would applaud. I guess that's bad now because again you have to be perfect just the way you are. and if you criticize that, then in Europe I think it's that there are too many voices that you hear because of social media, you hear so many meaningless voices and they stand out as everyone else's voice, there are so many people screaming into the void because there are so many accounts of social media of so many people who are tweeting about things and posting on Facebook about things and what confuses people is that this is like a rational perspective and again, with echo chambers, everyone just jumps on board and supports James Corden . or support you know Adele needs to get fat again and you will get thousands of likes everyone will go crazy that's the key word yeah that's what I didn't understand until about a year ago that so many people say things on social media . not because they really create it to get likes, yeah that's really scary, it's strange, we once had a

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board when we came back on air in January, like now, but four or five years ago and the slogan was that he's not there in it for the likes and it's my favorite promotional piece that anyone has ever done for me, that's cool, it's not in it for that, yeah, advertising, that's why you watch the show, yeah, but obviously that's not the way that many people feel they are in.
This is for the likes and they will take a position that they don't believe in because they know it will get likes and I've heard this from people I really respect and I'm like, wow, you have an addiction, that's an addiction. ". extra addiction to likes, yes there is absolutely that and they calculate their posts based on what kind of response they think they will get, it's not like free expression, it's not like they are making a post saying how I feel about this, TRUE? Writing it down How are people going to react to this? How am I going to make people actually think I'm amazing?
How am I going to make people really think? I will be progressive really writing I am an open minded person. mmm-hmm, the male feminist perspective, right, yeah, I was just talking to Jimmy, my friend Jimmy Dore, about that male feminist thing, about how nice it is like a completely false perspective and you never see it in gay guys, There are no male feminist homosexuals because there is a try with women, so that's how it is, it's not a position they would take, it's true, it's that they will support you, they will be your friends, right, this whole idea, I'm a lie, I mean, I try , man, it's so clear, it's so obvious. respect, you know, it's a very strange and sneaky thing to do, yes, but that's it, it's a version of the same thing people do to get likes on social media.
It is a calculated expression so that you know what the type of response was. I hope it's greasy now, that's greasy in the word I would have thought, but perfect every time I read male feminist posts I get angry, I just kick, no I don't want equality for women, you're just a greasy man, I know you. i didn't read your twitter or ever because she likes it exactly and what i read about people very often committing suicide oh yeah you know in the replies that yeah this is a big deal how about this guy loses his I work for him.
Couldn't you just do it? Could you just stop what got him a job with the Saints? Did you like that he was rich? It's a better team. Yes, but I mean everyone. I asked some people I know, like Barry Weiss, who is a brilliant person and like, oh God, it's so depressing, like if you don't read it, oh yeah, the generation can't stop reading even when it's going to kill them. I don't understand, well, he's very impulsive. You see your name and you see someone. Say Oh Barry, you're brilliant, oh thank you, and then you go a little further, you die and then there's a bunch of them like in those places and then a bunch of people pile up and you know you notice, so first that they don't do anything.
I don't even know you're a real human being, a lot of people have never met anyone famous, they know what they're looking at and a lot of them are 15 years old. Well, I always say that if I had a Twitter account when I was 15, how horrible is it for famous people, just to get a ride? Will it react to see if I can get it to react? They're not even things that necessarily mean they don't know you, but unless they know you, they don't even know you. I really know that people take it so seriously that they committed suicide.
You know some of these k-pop stars have committed suicide. Really look at that from social media. Yes I think so. I think that's the main reason. These are, you know, pop stars, yeah, I can't halogen, Bobby Sherman, right? You know, like 68, you read his fan mail and you're like, yeah, this guy hates me too if Elvis had a Twitter account. Hey, man, you don't give a damn about Priscilla. Yeah, come on, what the hell? find a pervert, yeah well maybe I could have used social media back then that's right that's the balance like you don't want Jerry Lee Lewis to marry his cousin and drown his wives and you don't want him to Elvis looks like he is 14 years old.
Better, yes, maybe a little. I have a balanced auction. You wonder what my life would have been like as a teenager with these things because maybe it would have made me kill myself, but I was painfully shy, I couldn't talk to a girl. If I could have texted them, maybe I think I would tell them some. Exactly, I think I would have done very well with that. I would have a lot of dick pics floating around 100%. there would have beenSent to everyone, you know, dumb and young. No, you have no idea that's going to last forever.
I thought it was a humble brag about it. No, no, it's a normal day, just Eddie, just any day. I sent the dicks to other people, but I would just think that the whole idea is because Young guys love dick pics, I get that scene from what was the super bad movie, that's one of my favorite scenes in a movie where he just draws dicks and has class, yeah, it's funny because it's so true, that's so true, yeah, like we. I was very lucky that we are not up to the standards that kids today have because everything they do today and they put it online, they will put a lot of things online, it is permanent forever.
I couldn't imagine something I said when I was 14 being permanent and it reminds me of this about this football player and the things people write on Twitter. It's something Lucy Kay told me recently. We are talking about this. You said that people look at things when they are written. It's different but it's just talk it's talk but it's written like people say she oh she's a I'm tired of her and then you see her like oh I'm sorry like but that's good talk but when you see it written it's like oh my God, what? Did you see what he put on Twitter to see what he wrote like you're talking to everyone now?
And you have to realize that this is a different thing and then people get a screenshot, you can never take it back, yeah, senator. We will keep it forever we will archive it look, she said it, she said, she is and you can't, you can't talk anymore, but we are connected just to talk, people are connected for gossip and meaningless chat, especially when you are drinking, but If you're drinking, then you go on Twitter. Oh, you could, you could say the dumbest thing you could ever take your own life and people have yeah, with Justine Sacco, that famous yeah, that was one of the first, the one that was, yeah. as soon as you got off the flight, it was backwards, right, yeah, she gets on a plane, it's almost comical, except it's comical, you know, she gets on a plane and tweets that she said something is funny and then, When the plane lands, his life changes.
By the way, Family Guy did a hysterical version of that where Brian the dog walks into the theater, tweets something as he enters the theater and is semi-racist, but he is, and when he leaves the movie his life is destroyed by the Twitter mafia is literally a mafia outside your house, we are not designed for a stay like this, could you express yourself freely? It's like you're going to write something in a book and publish it. that book and you're going to carefully consider every word and then you pull out that book and you're okay, we've gone through it, we brought it in, that's something different than this guy, so what do you think should happen to Louie Louie CK?
Mention it, I know more about this than most people because I talked to Louie about it, but what happened versus what's being portrayed is what happened there, there's a lot of things that just aren't true. Lackey who never locks anyone's door once and what's unfair is that he can't say it, he can't if you get involved and defend yourself, correct the record, then you make it worse, yeah, then you're in this kind of purgatory where if You hear things that aren't true and you can't say anything about it either. Yes, that's an unfair place to be and it's also quite a hanging offense.
My problem with some of my problems and, of course, I think, like every right-thinking person, it was a great thing that happened that the men were put. Realizing that you're playing with five fouls and you just can't get away with it, a lot of the times when you use specific guys in our positions they play well. I mean, I think that also extends to the fracking industry and McDonald's and everyone else. place in the United States where it's probably very common, no one hears about it, but there's just no consistency. Charlie Sheen, who I'm not messing with.
I like him, but he got a Superbowl commercial last year. Well he did much worse things and Louise ek White, where is he? You couldn't hit Louis, he can't, so people let me see guys in a Super Bowl commercial, that's ridiculous, they're lisheen, yeah I can, Charlie Sheen, because I know she and I know, but yeah , I pointed a knife at him, did he do it? At that time in Aspen it wasn't like he was with the third wife or anything and I think I remember it, but he already did it, man, they're suing him for giving help to people.
I mean, there are a litany of things that are much worse than hitting yourself in the front. of people, which isn't great either, of course, it's oneself, but literally they are little university eyes and they recognize it and I just think that's where the consistency is, yeah, look and also where it is, it's all, it's all a sentence of for life. Louis is forever a horrible person or is there some point we used to go to. Yes, a person pays his debt to society in some way and then you know, you know you can come back.
I feel like I feel bad for him, I mean. I feel like he did something weird that he shouldn't have done for sure and I think he knows that I know that he knows, but what is the appropriate punishment and who decides that well. He's definitely working again, so all the people who are complaining. and complaining about her she sees that no one here knows what she does, she's on tour again, right, yes, when you sell her tickets to her fans, yes, of course, but she certainly can't do well everything she wants and she can't, yet You can do a tour, but even if you want to do a special guy who will take you in that right, you know who will break the law and maybe the appropriate punishment is another five years before you can have a special, but that's a long time, Well, I'm just. saying I'm just pulling it out of my ass I'm just saying what we need somehow it's been over two years somehow me in court, yeah that's fair and squared by Judge Rose McGowan presiding, yeah yeah , as I would do it?
How do you decide when you know a person has been punished enough and what is the governor? Yeah, but there are some funny parts about it because the problem was that I liked to masturbate and I don't like being alone, right? and he wanted to the rest of the material that he does about it, but you know, he asked, he asked, can I masturbate in front of you? when they said yes, he did it, it's not a good thing, nothing is good in any, you know, but he knows it and I. I'm not defending him but the right people are portraying him, it's a lot worse than when he went to the skank festival in New York and people went crazy and cheered and I reposted the video and someone posted it on Twitter one of the weird ones times I look you, Joe Rogan, assaulted women, yes, no, no, no, he didn't, but no, you're not going to be able to change the meaning of salt, are you?
He asked if he could masturbate in front of people and then he did. did. There is a question. As for whether a phone masturbation with someone or not, I don't think it's assault either, it's a little creepy, it's not even time for her to say it's creepy, but we're not talking about someone who assaulted people like you, can. I didn't just change the definition of the word because it makes you feel better to hate someone now I also read but I don't know if it's true if his management I think threatened the women who were going to talk about this or prevented someone's career from advancing because Of this, yes, that happened, that for me is almost worse, if that is a guerrilla bed, yes, okay, I don't know if it's true and they don't let him talk to fix that.
Well, it's not that they don't let him talk. It's very serious. Several people have considered talking about it. times and I think he just decides that at the end of the day it's better to move on and good and his new time apparently I'm not advertising that, but from everyone I heard it's Unbelievable because all the pain, all the madness, apparently he has a book about new rock material and I knew I had something to talk about. I do it because it's like a work night for me, kid, tell people when it is, when the new season comes out on Friday.
Friday, yeah, January 17th, same time, same HBO channel at 10:00 Eastern and I guess you can figure out the other time zones from that and we'll get back to it again. There is a lot to talk about. By the way, I always congratulate you for making this such an important stop and such an iconic place. You did well, thank you, thank you. I don't know what happened. I stumbled upon that. Will you do my show? Sure, okay, I asked you before and you. They were very fidgety with people, everyone was talking over each other and staying still, you know, I heard you say that, yeah, when you're a guy who makes a terrible impression on me and is very Tile Kolinsky, it's a great impression.
Of you guys I didn't know who he was have you ever seen the Face Swap version faith showdown that he does of you on Instagram no oh I don't know find that before we go what's that kolinsky chop I'm sorry I'm sorry , Kyle, don't we? You don't have to look at this I'm Emily it's amazing for you it was amazing it wasn't it yeah I don't know people made me and I can laugh at it something was your face he has your face I was doing an impression of you you've never seen it isn't it that I saw what anyway the point yeah, that doesn't matter the point was what was the point one point was that there aren't too many people talking to each other on your show right, I think As it is for me, it's very difficult to have a conversation when there are so many different people talking, it's such a fundamental criticism of my show, it's not their show, it's just that format, that's the size, but that's what I think you're thinking.
You are politically incorrect, that's how it was. I'm thinking about your show right now. Well, I'm there every week, okay, and I try to monitor it very closely, of course, when you have a panel, which we do, there may be those moments, but no. We don't hire that kind of person and that kind of show, it's not the old thing, let's make them fight, we don't want that and honestly the number of times that people have been yelling at each other and you can't hear them is very little, nor It's not even that they're yelling at each other if you have a point where you want to talk about something you have to leave it, it was a little hesitation, but you would be the guest in the middle of the show to my left and it would be a- one on one, you know, I do a one on one twice on the show, have you seen the show?
Well, in the middle of the show, yes, I bring out more celebrities, usually to my left. They'd throw me at one who wears a Harris. He starts doing it with Ben Affleck because Sam was your individual person, that's right, well, you know, you picked the only example where that's someone you were talking about. I think you've seen a show. Jordan Peterson, I'm glad I did it. Just don't demand that anyone be decadent. I just like the honesty. One of my favorites. How we are getting dizzy. The honesty. Hitchens persecuted most of the deaf. Well, he's been dead for about ten years.
So what we're establishing about this show is very limited, so I watched a bunch of episodes. I hope you see Yeti. I don't need you to have it. I have many fans. I don't need one more. What I'm saying is that I wish you would. because I think you would be good and I like to listen to you and you would be on my left one on one there would be no one yelling at you because they wouldn't be involved okay then you wouldn't have that problem. Do it yeah, great, okay and then we'll work on it.
Shin will work in Hawaii, okay, okay. Bill Marley, thank you, thank you, it's a pleasure to be here, man, yeah.

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