Jesse Ventura | Talks at Google

Presenter: Welcome everyone. It's great to see a big crowd here. We are pleased to welcome Jesse Ventura to Authors at Google in Santa Monica. Jesse is a former Navy Seal and professional wrestler and, I must say, I have been lucky enough to see him wrestle live in the past several times. And I loved it and above all I loved watching him as a television commentator, because he was always clever and funny. And he used to say that he was the only commentator who told it like it is. And I have to say that he still tells it like he is throughout his career.

He later became a well-known actor and television personality, governor of Minnesota, visiting fellow at Harvard's Kennedy School of Government, and best-selling author. His best-selling books include Don't Start the Revolution Without Me and American Conspiracies. He is the host and executive producer of the television series Conspiracy Theory with Jesse Ventura. And today he's going to talk about his latest bestseller, 63 Documents the Government Doesn't Want You to Read. So join me in welcoming Governor Jesse Ventura. Jesse: Thank you. It's great to be here. First, I would like to tell you, so you know a little about me, well, beyond the nice introduction.

I'm a throwback. I am computer illiterate. It's not a good thing for you. And I have never had a mobile phone in my life, nor will I have one now. I have made it my life's mission. I think if I survive maybe another 25 or 20 years on this planet, I can put it on my tombstone and I'll be the only one who can do it. I have already given instructions to my wife, if I go first; I want them to say "she never had a cell phone" because. And I guess I'm a dinosaur, but I enjoy it because first I'll tell a funny story about when I bought my dream car in 2003.

A Porsche X50 twin turbo, 450 horsepower, 6 speed that is so fast today. I have never touched it; that's how fast it is. When you order a car like this you have to get a slot number because they are handmade in Germany. And when you get your slot number, you should have ordered what you want. And my car salesman, who I'd probably bought half a dozen cars from over the years, because my wife and I like Porsches and she likes Audis and they're basically under the same roof. Probably the fifth or sixth car and my salesman, Rob, is going through the list and he didn't even ask, he just looked at me and said, "So where do you want your cell phone?" And I looked at him and said, "I don't want a cell phone." You would have thought he was asking for a car without tires.

He gave me this incredible look, but then I said, "But do you see that six-CD player, where you can stack six CDs?" I said, "I want that." The reason I don't want a cell phone in my car, my Porsche, is because, first of all, it's a six-speed manual transmission, which requires using both feet and both hands at the same time. So where is the mobile going to fit? And also, because when I drive that car it is the pleasure of driving, not the pleasure of talking on the phone when I drive and want to drive it.

And it's not California or Los Angeles either. I can drive it and be over 40, which always makes me laugh when I come here and see all the exotic cars. Where the hell are they taking them? You go over 40, you can't go over 40, but I have a Ferrari. I mean, anyway, other than that; to the book. The last book I wrote was called American Conspiracies, where we basically started from Abraham Lincoln and moved forward and talked about conspiracies and wrote about conspiracies from the conspiracy side, basically. Naturally, I received a lot of heat for it. Today it seems like if you question the history of your government, you're a conspiracy theorist, which means you believe in anything, you're in left field and all that and the green men come from Mars and all that, which seems to me very unfair.

So in light of that book, which was a bestseller, and by the way, I should add that Conspiracy Theory spent seven weeks on the New York Times top ten bestseller list. And yet, it was not reviewed by any of the major media outlets in the United States of America, including the Times itself. And that was on their main list; in the top ten for seven weeks. Because? Why, if not just to say that the books are shit in the end. Why was it ignored? You can't ignore a book like that, so Dick Welsh, my co-writer, and I decided, "Well, let's take a different approach with the next book.

Let's make a book they can't blame." We for, for theories or what I might think. And so we chose, and this was before WikiLeaks, we started this project up until a couple of months before WikiLeaks happened and we said, "Let's make government documents that way." , government documents speak for themselves and are real; exist. So this book has nothing to do with any kind of theory, every document that is in this book is reproduced. where I simply do not talk to you about the documents or give you my opinion, which I do, but the documents are all reproduced, in their entirety, so that you yourselves can read them and judge for yourself what the document says.

And we try. Basically, I'm going through my entire life and turning 60 this summer, so we go back to that point and forward to modern times and get documents along the way. All documents are legal. We do not violate any laws; They are out there. We do not reveal anything top secret or that has not been declassified. They are all in the public domain. And I will tell you this; This book is terrifying to me. This book was not easy to write. I am a six-year Navy veteran. I love my country. I have the rare privilege of having my brother be a Vietnam veteran;

I am a Vietnam veteran. And I have the rare privilege that not many people can say: my father was a World War II veteran and so was my mother. Not many people can say that his mother was a World War II veteran. I think my dad has six or seven bronze battle stars from World War II in Europe. And my mother was a nurse in North Africa during World War II. And not many people can say that your mother is buried in a national cemetery. That's why the book was difficult, because this book tested my patriotism and stretched it too far until it became a rope.

Because when I reviewed these documents and looked at my country's behavior, it was appalling. It was shocking that we were involved in things that we have been involved in for the last 50 years. In fact, I was reprimanded for mentioning a word that I find ironic; I guess you shouldn't consume. When you read this, it bothered me, but I'll use it. I say it like it is. Where we are? I think in many cases in this book you can substitute the word Nazi and it works. There is behavior in this book that is what would be expected of Nazis.

But it's not the Nazis, it's us. It's our country. Now, people say, "The documents are secret. What right to... who has the damn cell phone, turn it off? Consider this like a putting green on a golf course, that's a hard line. Well, I stand corrected. Anyway, these documents are appalling. Our behavior has been appalling in reading these documents about the things that my country has done and yet, in most cases, no one has been prosecuted, no one has been tried for anything. of this in the book. And that worries me. Now, if I can, let's quickly move on to WikiLeaks.

I think WikiLeaks is a hero for the fact that last year, in one year, our country declared 16 million documents top secret; that you and I can't see, in a year. I had to calculate that that must be almost all they do. Maybe, I don't know how many documents they would have, but I find it interesting that when I was in the military as a Navy Seal, I had a. top secret security clearance that was necessary and I was mayor and governor. Now I am neither of the two things; I am a citizen. At what point do I lose my top secret security clearance?

How am I different today than I was before when it comes to security? And yet, because I become a civilian or citizen, I am now not allowed to know things that I could know as a governor, that I could know as a Seal. However, I am the same person. But I guess being a civilian puts you at the bottom of the food chain, or being a citizen of knowledge, and I think that's wrong. Now, what you'll see in the book is that I dedicated it to Congressman Ron Paul. And I did it because he was the only person in our Congress when WikiLeaks happened who came out on the floor of Congress and gave, what I thought, one of the best speeches I had ever heard when he stated unequivocally that WikiLeaks had not killed anyone.

How many people have been killed by the lies, false intelligence and deception we received to get us into the Iraq war? Also, the fact that I think what he said was extremely important is that in a free country like ours, when you tell the truth people accuse you of being a traitor or treason. When truth equals betrayal in a free society, then we are suffering. When does telling the truth mean that people accuse you of being a traitor? The truth is what it is. The truth is the truth. When I ran for governor, I never used a prepared speech at all to win because I ran on the premise of "if you tell the truth, you don't need to have a good memory." And that's true.

I always remember, I was at my first debate and I sat down and there were like seven candidates standing and a black, civilian woman sitting to my left and they all walked in. They carried books, containers, papers, everything. these things. They are all loaded and I enter with nothing; She sat at the table. This woman had one of those notepads, you know, with yellow paper and a pen. And she put it on the table and slid it to me. And I looked at her and I slid it back and she said, "Well, don't you think you'll need that?" And that's when I told her, I told her: "Madam, when you tell the truth you don't have to have a good memory." And I will never forget the smile she gave me and nodded.

Then she understood that I will tell her the truth. And I made the biggest debate mistake you can make in a political debate. I was asked a question on TV in a debate and I just said, "I don't know." There was a two-second pause and the crowd erupted in cheers and applause. And then when that happened, I said, "But if it's important, I'll learn." Well, I think people appreciated the honesty and I think they appreciated hearing someone running for office who didn't claim to know everything. And I think at that point they realized that true honesty was more important in choosing someone now.

The current state of our country: we are in a mess and who is to blame; the Democrats and the Republicans. They have been in charge my entire life. I'm independent; dyed in the wool, true and true. I despise them both equally. Not one over the other; I don't like both. I despise the equal opportunities of our two political parties. I agree with what Ralph Nader said: "We are a two-party dictatorship in this country." Now how can we break it? How can we get our country back? Look, I'm not just talking about things; Sometimes I give solutions.

How can we take back our country today? I think it's as simple as the nose on your face, if I can use that cliché or another. But unfortunately, we can't see the forest from the trees. How can we do it? It's simple. Stop voting for Democrats and Republicans. Remember, voting is not a horse race. You are not there to choose the winner. You are there to vote with your heart and your conscience for the candidate who you believe best fits your values ​​and who you believe in, and if you do, you have voted correctly. You haven't wasted your vote.

Wasting your vote is trying to choose a winner. And we all like to be with the winners so we can brag and say, "Yes, I voted for this candidate and he won, or she won." But to me, that's not doing your civic duty, your civic duty. It is voting with the heart and conscience. And one way we can start, one way we can immediately start taking back our country, how about this? I'll back up a second. I no longer believe in the third-party movement and I'll tell you why. The Democrats and Republicans have corrupted the system so much that any third party that can survive will have to corrupt itself.

If you already have a two-headed monster, why would you want a three-headed one? I now advocate the abolition of all political parties in the United States of America. Turn them into political action committees, which is what they are anyway. They can certainly support it, but stop there. And on every ballot in the United States of America, there is one simple thing we can do: remove the party designation and write only the name. It's too simple and the system is set up for it. If you're conservative, you don't need to know anyone's name. You look for the party, Republican, Republican, Republican.

If you're a liberal, you don't need to know a name, Democrat, Democrat, Democrat. By writing only the name, you, as a voter, would have to inform yourself. What does John Smith mean? Because you wouldn't have that crutch there that would call you conservative or democrat. And then there's one, and you guys in California can get away with it because you have this nonsense about putting everything on the ballot. The next thing would be simply this: how about on every state, local and national ballot we offer the final option at the bottom that you can vote for, "none of the above"?

Now,People laugh at it, but what it really is is a vote of no confidence in the government. that could make volumes; enormous. Because imagine for a moment, let's say I'm a Democrat and I defeated my Republican opponent for Congress, but I didn't lose to any of the above. More people voted for none of the above than me. Wouldn't that make them come away with a change of attitude? You didn't lose to anyone. Yes, you are the congressman or congresswoman, but you did not lose to any of the above. And I'm willing to bet that there are elections in this country right now in which none of the above would prevail.

And that's what's wrong with that, a vote of no confidence? That would send a huge, huge message to every elected official. Imagine these ideas coming from a professional wrestler. I did not go to the University. I didn't, I'm not a political science student and I'm certainly not a lawyer. Imagine that. All these ideas that this professional wrestler comes up with. But anyway, those are some of the things that as you read this book, I'll open up here for questions in a minute, because that's usually the best way. I don't want to just preach, preach, preach. I'd like to answer questions about what's on your mind.

But I hope that when you read this book you will be scared. I hope it's a wake-up call. I hope they are committed citizens, that they stop being lemmings because right now we are a country full of lemmings. We can march toward the cliff and not even look left or right. Because? It is the brutalization of America because of our media; our media. Our media was supposed to be the fourth branch of government. They were supposed to be the watchdog for the other three and report back to us. Well, they aren't anymore. They are in bed with the government.

They are now the spokesperson for the government. They are no longer a guard dog. For example, what is the main news in these last three or four weeks? Charlie Sheen. You can't watch the news now without hearing a report about Charlie Sheen. Now, Charlie, he's got some problems. I feel bad for him, but he barely deserves a mention at the end of the story, not a main story. And what was it a year, year and a half ago? The main story the death of Anna Nicole Smith. I almost vomit. Every day they are making mobile phones.

They're sending mobile reporters outside the hotel. "Well, we're down here, wherever she was, the Bahamas, or wherever the hell it happened, and we're in front of the hotel where Anna Nicole Smith died." Hey, I was alive in '63 when John Kennedy was assassinated. Anna Nicole Smith ultimately got a lot more press than the assassination of our president, because the matter continued. She still has legs. I saw him the other day. Some judge ruled to give her house to her boyfriend or something like that. Is that newsworthy? It's like when he was supposed to have a TV show on MSNBC, but that's another matter.

They tried to tell me what I was supposed to cover every day and at that point, you'll remember, remember that murder they had here where the guy killed his wife on the boat or whatever a couple of years ago? Unknown Audience 1: Peterson. Jesse: Excuse me? Unknown Audience 1: Peterson. Jesse: Pet-, yes. That murder. Well, they were shoving that down my throat every day to cover it up and I was like, "Wait a minute. There are ten thousand murders a year." That was a tragic murder, but there are ten thousand murders a year, every year. How is this so important?

Now, it might be important to all of you Californians because you live here. I'm close of you. But come back to Minnesota with me. We have our own murders. Why do we need to know about yours? And yet, every night, every night, day after day, that is the brutalization of America by our media. And we are to blame because we accept it because we like this exciting journalism. And do you know what the fall of our news was? The show 60 Minutes. Now, let's listen to me. 60 Minute is a wonderful show, but this is where it was its downfall.

Up until that point, before 60 Minutes, news departments were losing money, so they were making it back in the entertainment division because they felt, "Well, we'll lose money, but it's our job to report." Good? 60 Minutes arrives. Low and behold, it hits number one in the ratings. The beans contract above, the light goes out. "You mean we can make money from the news?" That was your downfall because from that moment on the news became about making money, not informing you. They became ratings instead of information to improve it. Now they have done it, and here is the dangerous part because of that, now they have the news;

What they are interested in is creating news, not reporting it, and that is very, very dangerous in my opinion, very dangerous. Therefore, it is up to us to be vigilant citizens. Tom Jefferson said, "Dissent is the greatest form of patriotism," and I completely believe and endorse that. There is nothing wrong with disagreeing. There is nothing wrong with holding elected officials to the fire. If you don't, you will have a bad government. So I hope you read this book. I hope you digest the documents it contains. I hope you're as surprised as I am about what some of the documents are, and if there's one in particular that you see that you'd like to ask me about while you're reading the book, feel free to ask.

I won't go into details now, because reading is supposed to be a pleasure and you're supposed to be the one doing it. So I'm not going to go into, unless specifically asked, the things that are in the book, but I will do this. I opened and closed the book, more or less, with two quotes. The first quote comes from my favorite president of my entire life, President John Fitzgerald Kennedy. And this is what President Kennedy told us: "There is little point in ensuring the survival of our nation if our traditions do not survive with it. And there is a very grave danger that those anxious will take advantage of an announced need for greater security." expand its meaning to the very limits of official censorship and concealment." Sounds familiar, doesn't it?

We'll keep you safe, right? Then, I like to finish too, just to show that it runs through the entire history of our country. I will quote to Patrick Henry. Most of us remember Patrick Henry saying "give me liberty or give me death." That was a great quote, a brave quote. But Patrick Henry also said this, quote: "The liberties of a people were never even. They will be safe when the transactions of their rulers can be hidden from them." And I think those are two truly great Americans, and the words they say are, in my opinion, very true.

In that sense, I would like to thank Google for inviting me here .Lunch was fantastic. I heard it's an extraordinary company that feeds you. Geez, you're like the Navy. Well, they used to feed me three hots and a cot all the time and no, actually, I'll tell you this. Amphib Naval Base, Coronado, California and we won Best Food Hall eleven years in a row in the 11th Naval District. Every Thursday we ate steak and lobster at the Marina. And I was in what they call "COMRATS" because it's a community rationing type thing, because our jobs take us away from the base as many times as Sello pays you money.

And then you have to eat, they pay you to eat at the Chow Hall when you're there. But I think lunch was 65 cents and they would give you steak and lobster. So it's not a bad price. Of course, let's remember that this was the early '70s, when the economy was very different, but so was my salary. Because when I initially joined the Navy, I was making $122 a month; $61 per paycheck. And I'd screw it up that first weekend and then be stuck on base the rest of the time. I guess because I wasn't very financially sound then.

So thank you very much. It was a pleasure for me to be here and now I will be open to questions. I'll tell you, excuse me, it's the first time. No one, apart from the hand, finally, I have never given a speech in which everyone froze and didn't ask a question. Go ahead sir. Male Audience 1: This is a two-part question. First-- Jesse: Okay, but give it to me one piece at a time. I've been traveling for two weeks and I do it for about four hours a night every night. I'm tired of dog. So, slow and easy.

Male audience 1: Sure, sure. What was your motivation for running for governor when he did? And the second part is just, being governor of the state, what did you learn the most about how our government works? Jesse: Well, my motivation and I'll give you the first one, my funny motivation. This is the joke. There's a gentleman in Minnesota named, a great businessman, named Wheelock Whitney, and when I first won governor I was talking to a group of businessmen and Wheelock was there. And they asked me the same question: "What motivated you to be governor?" And I looked right at Wheelock Whitney and said, "Well, I was mayor and it didn't work, so I guess if I become governor, it will work." Well, it turns out Wheelock Whitney is a member of Augusta National, where they play the Masters.

And I said, "I thought if I won governor, Wheelock Whitney would take me to Augusta and let me play in Augusta, Georgia," which is pro golf heaven. And then I looked at Wheelock and said, "Wheelock, don't make me have to become president." And he was a man, he laughed and said, "You're going to Augusta." And sure enough, it was good enough to get me there and I got to play at Augusta National and, if you're a golfer, I think it's the same as going to heaven. Now seriously, what inspired me to become governor was something really interesting.

Let's go back, if we can, to 1998, when our economies were strong, remember that? The interest was nothing. Everyone was making a lot of money. Well, the state of Minnesota was in such a fiscal situation then that they were running budget surpluses. In other words, they met their budget, but because the economy was so strong, they were contributing more than they had budgeted. Well, that year, guess what they did? They spent it. They thought they were kids in a candy store. They thought, "Wow. We raised more money than we budgeted. That means we can go buy extra things." Well, I was outraged.

I was on the radio and I said, "Wait a minute. If they brought in more money than their budget needed, then that money should be returned to the taxpayers." So I basically went with that. I told him I was on the radio and I was so angry I said, "Maybe I should run for governor." Then you backed yourself into a corner and, of course, on the radio, if you lose your credibility you are nothing. And then, I forced myself. I had to run and I can honestly say that before 9/11, we had three more years of a strong economy and I returned tax refunds to all Minnesotans.

They called them "Jesse checks." And I did it even during the process. You'd think the Republicans would have followed me all the way, but they wanted it to be an income tax refund. Well, an income tax refund means you have to report it, which means it's part of your income, which means the federal government will take a third of it. And I thought, "This isn't the feds' money, it's ours." So I did it. You were successful in a sales tax refund because you cannot deduct a sales tax and therefore they cannot accept the money. Then, when you received your check, you could spend it.

There is now a real stimulus package, not the nonsense you get today. The stimulus package, if you want to receive it, send the money to the people. People will spend it and that will stimulate the economy. I met an old woman, an old woman. And she came up to me and said, "Governor," she said. "Thanks for that check Jesse." I said, "You're welcome, ma'am." She said, "Do you know what I did with him?" "Did I say what?" She said, "He needed a new lawnmower." I went and bought it and named my lawnmower after Jesse." And I was very flattered by that, this old lady who wanted a new electric lawnmower for her backyard.

Because, unlike in Los Angeles, we In Minnesota we have backyards. They also have grass and trees. Every once in a while I have to explore California. So that's what really inspired me to run, that budget where they didn't give the excess money back to the people. and they were spending it like kids in a candy store. So, next question. Actually, we'll get close to the microphone, but we'll try to keep it close to the microphone. Female audience 1: Have you ever considered running for president in 2012? Jesse: President? Female Audience 1: Yes, in 2012. Jesse: I have thought about it. , the cards are against you because you would think it is something universal;

If you're running for president, all qualifying states must be the same, correct? But is not; They do it on purpose. In each state, you have to jump through different hoops to get access to the ballots and when you try to get it, the Democrats and Republicans will file lawsuits to tie you up in court so that by the time you're done with the courts, the election is already over.clearly that the President can only be a figurehead and that there are people behind the scenes that we don't even elect who actually make the decisions. That is the only reasoning I can give you, because as governor, I was quite powerful and no one could influence me and I stood by most of my campaign speeches and what I promised.

But it seems to me that how could he not be doing any of what he did in his campaign and why all this massive compromise to accommodate, quote, "the Republicans"? That's why I think it goes beyond party lines when it comes to who runs the operation. That's just my opinion. Next question. Male audience 9: How can we overcome it? Jesse: Huh? Male Audience 9: Jesse: Well, like I said, stop picking them. That would be a good start because I only raised 300 thousand dollars, people, to be governor. I made more money at the job than I spent getting it.

But of course, I didn't need them to know my name. Everyone in Minnesota knew who I was. I'm going to brag. I'm one of four people in Minnesota where all you have to do is say the name and they'll know who you are. There's Jesse, there's Prince, there's Dylan and, I forget. Which is the other? And Sid. We have a columnist named Sid Hartman, who has been writing a sports column for 70 years. And we are the four people that all you have to do is say our name and everyone will know who you are. And I was written by a writer and I was very proud to be in that kind of company.

Yes sir? Male audience 10: Jesse: I don't know. I'm just saying that's my theory. Male Audience 10: So, hypothetically, if they exist, then the two parts are eliminated. What will stop that? Jesse: Well, if you don't take the dirty money, if you don't take the corporate money like I didn't. I didn't accept PAC money. The only thing I accepted were donations of $50 and $100 from individuals and believe me, in a job like that, a hundred dollars isn't going to give you much influence. If you gave me a hundred dollars and came back later and said, "You know I gave you a hundred dollars." I say: "So what?" That's not enough money to buy influence with me.

And I can also tell you that since I didn't take money from any lobbyists, when I took office I didn't even see any lobbyists. I banned them. I told my staff, "Tell all the lobbyists to look for new jobs." Because I said, "They will not enter my door." Why do you think they wanted me to leave there? I have my own ideas. I don't need a lobbyist trying to convince me what is right and what is wrong. Now, I use other people and consult them. I certainly don't know everything, but I also had a great curator.

Anyway, next question. Male Audience 11: Can you say something about what effect you think JFK's assassination had on this country? And specifically say something about the Reagan Administration. Jesse: The Reagan administration? I think the effect of the JFK assassination was simple, really simple. If you can kill the president and get away with it, what can't you do? What can't you do? And like I said, we had a confession on my TV show. Did I talk about that? Yes. He Mi showed the guilt of him. We had a confession to the assassination of John Kennedy and yet there was not a word in the mainstream media.

E. Howard Hunt of Watergate confessed to his son, Saint John Hunt, on his deathbed. He said that the CIA did it, and that it was not a confession of remorse, but a confession of pride. That's what was scary. It was a CIA operation. It was called "The Big Event" and I guess if you kill the President, it's a big event. You wouldn't call it "The Little Event." And he named the people: William Harvey, who at the time led the CIA assassination teams, when they were trying to kill Castro, and a guy named David Sánchez Morales and was one of his main agents on the ground.

And he is also famous because, four years later, he was in Bolivia when Che Guevara was put against a wall and shot to death. Morales was there and allegedly took Che's Rolex watch and used it as a trophy. And I believe what Howard Hunt said. He would have no reason to lie. He did it to his son, and Saint John, his son, how many of you remember the Three Tramps in Dealey Plaza? Did they have these photos of three homeless people, the homeless people? Well, if you look closely at the old tramp, if it's not E.

Howard Hunt, then he has a double. Because even his son looked at that photo and said, "Yeah, I think that's my dad." So, who else is a better eyewitness than a child? Well then. Think of your father. Do you think you could recognize it if you saw it in a photo? I think he might recognize mine, Father. Find one last question and then we'll sign some books. Male audience 11: I would be interested if you said something about the history of the United States. Jesse: Oh, wait a minute. You wanted to know about Reagan. Male Audience 11: Well, just the history of America since JFK and how we got to where we are and whether you think the Reagan administration had anything to do with that.

Jesse: When they took out Jack Kennedy, they removed our leader without a vote. They shot him out and from then on, who knows? But like I said, I believe there is a higher authority that is in charge of our government. And it's the same as always: follow the money. He who has the money has the power and the best I can say is the Federal Reserve. They can't, Ron Paul asked for an audit. We can't even audit these people and what they do illegally. Did you know that? It arrived in about 1913, and our Constitution said that there could be no one who could borrow money from the country and charge interest.

They charge us interest. These people print the money and give it to the US government and then charge us interest on the money. They are our credit institution. They are the bank of the United States government and the Constitution, that goes against the Constitution and it was never, never ratified because if the Constitution is going to be changed, two-thirds of the states are required to ratify it by vote. It was never done. It was never done. And now it's too late; They are rooted. We have the Federal Reserve now. And just so you know, another example, quickly, of why it doesn't matter whether you elect a Democrat or a Republican, I think in the last 40 or 50 years we've had Democratic and Republican presidents and yet all Treasury Secretaries, regardless Whether they are Democrats or Republicans, they have left Goldman Sachs.

None of the others, no one qualified in any of the others to be Treasury Secretary, only Goldman Sachs. Again, it doesn't matter if you're a Democrat or Republican; His Treasury Secretary comes from Goldman Sachs, or so it seems. Any final questions? Wow, you guys are good. You haven't asked me anything about wrestling or... I usually always get a question. Maybe you have one for me. What about wrestling? Male audience 12: Sorry, not about wrestling. Jesse: Okay. audience 13: It's hard enough to imagine that one person has the integrity to effect change, but the government is not just one person.

While you are governor, you have secretaries and there is a huge bureaucracy under you and there is one person, one right person, at the top who is really enough to change things, or do you have any plan or any idea on how that person can bring about change? to find a more suitable person? Jesse: Yes, you're absolutely right. Important changes cannot be made because the bureaucracy is very large. Normally you can't. You can just nudge it a little and hopefully get it moving in the right direction. But here we are talking about a revolution by not electing Democrats and Republicans and making total changes.

That's revolution and if that happens then total changes can happen, but right now, it's just all Democrats and Republicans, you're absolutely right. You might get small changes, but nothing significant. We have to cleanse ourselves of these two parts before you do anything. And if that doesn't happen, I'm okay with it. There will be no big changes at all. They will only be small. Thank you very much and I will sign some books if you want.