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jameshas a bit of history one more fun topic i am very interested in that with you it is about the best center the ngl jokic vs mbit is also a great debate so if you haven't seen it yet make sure you drop by in this video as usual now we'll sort out the liebherr is the winner from the last episode onwards you can pick a liebherr every week in both videos sports clubs win the month just comment add instagram commerce and you are already participating congratulations to the winner and then we always have to dissolve those who declared our real positions in the last week we talked about the tray is the all star is not a victim deserved didn't deserve it what about you actually you were for him i was f But for him it's so hard so how do you really decide there are so many strong guards in the eastern conference that maybe you can make a case here and there, but it's so hard and if he doesn't get in, is it okay if he's in?
He's fine, too, so I can't really decide right now. Yes, I am similar to you as I was in the Booker debate. It's hard to say that there's too little sport for too much talent and that's why you can't say very clearly that he deserves it. if he doesn't deserve it now it's just hard in both conferences in the east i had a feeling this year even a little tougher ok so we've worked through everything we can finally get down to business you guys are a team today i'm furious i'm
jamesteam i have so what here 39 notes with effect 8 you didn't properly prepare the tense what you bring with you and i left you that strong plea now yes i have to say i rarely got up like that i look forward to the debate this it's really the all time debate for me now just because there are such strong players it's such a hot topic and i'll start like this we have one of the best guards of all time with wait we've had with james one of the best offensive players in all the time we won't try to badmouth each other like we did in my debate it's really about nuance here but what i can say is when i compare the peak of both and we have to be able to do er that today I look at the values of the race and then I say wayne britta place the cut of the race but he only made 22 points of course his career peaked very strong he has calmed down relatively quickly he was in the league for a long time, we don't even know all that stuff about James but how his career will end we'll compare today's peak or how the different peak moments yeah you don't have to laugh so hard that's absolutely right. a good way to compare that and if i look at the rainbow help spike then we can start right now but if i look at the jailbreak spike then i have at least 85 to 90 percent of james offensive power i have a player who he clearly defended much better than james and i have a player who wins because equalweight was 34 times in the finals won three rings became a baby of ours had one of the craziest playoff performances of all time in his third season in 2006 than james he still has the bench in oklahoma city and i was wondering if he would ever be allowed to play at the end of the day my weight was on me photos and that's the crucial thing james hutton had a chance to win the ring as the best player of his team now has several years in a row we will go into more detail why that was so quaid made him the only w what james can still achieve is win the title as second best player on a team, the jai lbreak was also done twice next to lebron james and i don't even know from behind of course lebron was the best player at that time but the world did it alone and with a poster and james hutton hasn't done it till now and that is why for me the weight of the back is absolutely above the peaks. has been 25 9 and 11 enters a bit into the ngp discussion purely basement duels plays the last game 30 15 14 against spurs absolute madness what he has plays similar to the debate has has the advantage his career is not over yet that means that you can still do something about your legacy you can still do something about your career why are the djs waiting then and today they have chosen a strategy that is probably the best the only possible strategy is to be here too anyway you say just we look at the top it's the only right thing it can't have a race that I look at that's a rule maybe yes and what but also not careful care that we have to the right race, maybe not quite like that, we didn't have to start the race I'll start in a completely different way, he likes to quote Ng superstars who said something at some point and help him with his argument that I have to determine and that's what I want today.
I also like to do your game in 2013. There were Sports Illustrated in the top 100 list. Janeway was at 10. james we have at 11. caddy commented on this and said james hathaway should get a spot in the top ten and then wayne weight posted yes such a little angst hand wrote this has james hardie's placement in between top ten note to self made im bacon recognize place in history and then stop tweeting caddy show me we can't and that's probably my motto for this debate look at your tweet how should you tell me a kid shouldn't have a kid hermaphrodite you should tell me right now and you can't tell me like that you just told me pico twain world was better the same weight was a season 2008 2009 if we look at the statistics 2008 2009 was by far his best season 30, 2 points 5.9 rebounds 7.5 to 51.6 percent of effective lot rate 30.4 appiah and 14.7 wings and nets of plus 11 now i wonder what is the best song in case we want to compare to that maybe 2 16 17 29 and i did 11 is the nba again or 17 18 where 30 and 9 came from top scorer and ngp made the effort or did you make 18 19:36 and 7 nba top scorers or 2019 20 where he made 34 and 7 and also nba top scorer did you realize Not having James from my side is much more to choose from.
I can make him better than Jane. Weight in her crude glimpse of her alongside her in almost every season of this season. Turn, let's take mtv 2017 season 18, both medical and easy to look forward to. best three five percent rate best effective field book photo 3 percent best pa almost identical i wish i had it better in james networking 15 vs 11 wt i just picked one of these four outstanding seasons and jake didn't stand a chance even in his blatant peak season and that's also my point to say we just have to compare peak no it's important that brain weight had maybe the shortest or best peak in mdr history just had h one it's a very short journey he really had a very very short debut he had the finals in 2006 he had the year 2009 and he still had a good run with the heat but also with apex lebron at the absolute peak of his work if you die in the 2013 finals look at the hits became champion and wainwright scored 15.9 points these are almost role player numbers he was really on the way down did 2319 points on average didn't get playoff average i think that I accepted the playoff in the playoffs he had an average of 15.9 points which as the second best player in a championship was really on the decline and now you always look at the development after 2009 which was his sixth season when he made 30.2 the year after 26.6 then 25 5 then 22.1 then 21.2 then 19 points in his 11th season.
Let's see what James did in the eleventh season of him. He made 34 7 and 7 points, yes, now we know. the number was ever recorded on a cell phone to be like that then maybe i picked the wrong word but i also didnt know you had your death on that stallion with the same weight and pike james i wasn't talking about one then there were two singers the plan it was the plan we asked price ok and the price of twain wait are you right? it's a bit unorthodox because it started relatively early in his career and then pretty much went downhill midway through his career this is partly because jake was drafted a little older already that's because he broke down physically at some point who had a lot of injuries I'll give you all that is no problem at all but brathwaite from 2006 to 2011 I guess from 2012 laboren was also clearly the best player in the heat but until 2011 wayne james miami bass keyboard until then in those five six years he did 27 points 66 5 assists on average 5 re caps on average that's how his peak stats in the playoffs increased each time to about 28 or 29 depending on if you look at James Harden's five-year peak from 2015 to 2020 or 21 , so the numbers are almost identical to yours now, of course. you go into these blatant scoring hits by james
hardenand you go into these very heavy overall stats you completely ignore the fact that we played in a completely different era and that james also has to have played basketball in a completely different era again the user trade had even the highest values of janeway that already had high use the rainy season still surpasses we are talking about an over 40 season that is the second highest in mba history james has spent the last five years with the houston rockets in one of those parallel worlds of basketball exist so no one has ever played basketball other than Wilt Chamberlain who is the only player James really has a comparison because someone could do it for you or none of those skills had that's not true that's absolutely bad that the only reason i told you why janeway jailbreak is 85 to 90 percent offensive player than james hard It was also in his glance, the only thing you can give me is the 3, the quota of trios, the attempts of trios and here I return to emphasize another period from 2004 to 2011, there were not only 13 trios shot if you take the peak or if you compare brashest seasons together in their best shooting trios of the season james averaged more than jailbreak and scott then six more points at the end costly 36 points to jay's 30 points you can't decently argue that james
hardenis exponentially better in the often , fans a straight janeway can match the session and dominate the pick n roll the world had incredibly cheeky. id range jumper something that james had of course de facto he doesn't have because he's allergic to houston rockets with jumper all that james can have can't wait and the only reason it didn't at age three is because that's another one but hey wait a minute under pat riley 2009 13 39 it just happened you say you say you take protection he wasn't three years old because it was another time he says yes but at the same time he didn't have the rain shadow okay he's no longer a part yes yes yes yes picked by me that was just a little chip ok you got me the outfit congratulations on that but at the end of the day you are not able to defend james harden from me because james doesn't have the success to prove it apart from all the mbps and/or the first second third in the ndp was on point in the grand finals finals mbps won weight championships won was in the eastern conference finals in games 7 in his sophomore year nearly led the detroit pistons to the reigning champs who also well see almost fit into the games and the hair yes james h behind the bench also did the zeilsheim great warriors he was beaten by a hair and obviously wants to become the champion as a second level player almost no because here is the difference that is the absolute peak of his career this game and 2018 against the warriors and with the waiting it's just a side note he was in the final three times after and then he was in the final two more times as a not as good player so first of all First of all, you can't say that having speed is because, and I just played, their war is still ahead.
You are reading now, the second best player. We will see who you are, definitely the best. way to get the best team in the east to the nba finals after that looks like that's how we call someone to stop the nets idk that's why you can't cht it says its past its peak that, as a little side note, he just says that having him here with his 30 point trade was almost as good. I myself read this for nothing here with 30 points from him. I gave you the 36 point season, the 34 points. season i read you it's low season we play play aren't you a fan of i also have it in uk deals.
You can tell that it is an important skill. james now you look at the highlights and you say well weight the package has wooden planks you have no idea the front row beautiful because we have the school race from day one i dont just have a highlight i love you and i prefer the jockeys here in the world virtual and also i love the game of whales definitely but objectively james hagen is the best pick n roll player and also the best playmaker and you can't dismiss that as a side note which is important when we talk about who is the best player and what is not important is the type of success if he was in the final two or three or four times he does not say anything about that he is the best player if james had played with lebron james four years he would have had james also had two rings in four final parts he manufactures his i you he would have the final mvp 2006 I don't think because he had his chance he hadhis chance 2015 2016 17 18 and 2020 each time he had the show in the best player of his team to go to the final and there to judge the performance that he has not made weight yet he only got 39 points in the final in his third year james had never been close to ok maybe a little side note on this finals jailbreak we are still debating today if these finals were exciting janeway got 97 free throws in six games scored 75 points so 12.5 points per game on the line he just had to touch the zone with his foot and he stood on the line he stood on the league 16 questions per game won we'll talk about that today was he or she was using what was there or not plz l so would you like to have seen james in the i go series if i had straight count duties because he was the judge but brathwaite is in his prime his 34 years price he has spent in the eastern conference james has come in an era when his prime was dominated by one of the l he greatest teams of all time is like when you played back east in the 90s and you just couldn't get past the bulls james hutton got knocked out four times by the golden state warriors no player had ever gotten past that team would have been too much drake didn't pass from 2006 or he still wasn't and like I said from 2011 to 2014 he was just a better role player especially in 2013/2014 which was Lebron tag on top of his work which this time he kept him in an eastern conference still weak used harry 26 ok but they were already on their way down 2012 indians with paul george that time no crude gear had no compared to warriors with keyboard players time i say no welcome caddie warriors so you say james aden never got this chance in his prime 2015 track down warriors now not warriors cheek fists 2015 there they haven't won anything and will never have been ca champions if the boys had been completely healthy with kevin love and with kyrie irving we all agree in the decisive game 5 in the final of the western conference against the warriors james harden scores 14 points and twelve turnovers I had three let's see if thats really true thats an all time performance show 2016 again against the warriors again in the lighting game7 rotation 2017 against the korean spurs manu ginobili and tony parker were on their way down tim duncan no longer played he made it there but actually in the lighting game and the game 15 points to hang the man consistently over and over and over again I said I'm not saying veteran warriors should have been beaten by him especially caddy constellation but he had his chances and erhard made me warriors in 2017 he got knocked out by kohl and co2 segways and let's talk about it zeutern great team ok certainly We are not going to go through the years and always say that the years the second best player was once was an alternative howard once what an altana chris paul once was records or based on the appearance of the tanker correctly being is not from the federation against chris paul yes, me when I have the building but I haven't fixed it yet chris paul and you say you have always worked in the playoffs you always have opponents on the playstation only the last six playoffs ranked 27 and 8 27 and 829 and 929 and 7 32 and 37 and eight days in his last six races has eight playoff runs with at least 26 points jd has only four of them and he can do well low drop the table who he had to play you can't leave that under the table , wayne weight dominated the east with brown james, yeah congratulations you can't compare that when you've lost four times to one of the greatest teams of all time. that you can't compare the point i made a little rubric that's why i have so many sheets of paper today that first corner of siebers and i want to keep an eye out for the things in dc that want to chat with me and now has done one of them exactly namely overestimate to lebron and 2004 excluding waiting until 2011 is more precisely that's exactly what you're doing right now you say yes to every argument and where on the lebron james side did i do that too no janeway was alone from 2004 to 2011 was alone in the final in 2006 you can say that if shaquille o'neal shaquille o'neal scored 13 points in this final scratch it was no longer elegant it was a jailbreak of the attack the argument that the raps would have won this series but let's hear james has been much worse in the same situation and I don't think he made it because in the end he probably bet your argument against all my job listings that had lighting kits. but look, they've been through the playoffs, good network, yeah of course, but if I fabricate a 12-inch nova in a crucial game and make seven turnovers in the next year and ten points in the deciding game the following year, so im a joker in the playoffs sorry and now the last point is i love this debate so in the playoffs you just read the great starts in the playoffs compare again to the 56 year peak of the two jailbreak players 27 6 and 5 the games have 28.7 5 and 6 are almost identical that's what we're talking about here and I re-emphasize the way that there is Everything is done in honor of where ten percent less was played and where significantly fewer three were released, there weren't three revolutions so hofmann we're talking here because all the time peak prime jailbreak is a better player than prime games so i like to assist the school what i said from 2006 to 2011 ignored i didn't say they keep the finals talked about and i would like to go back to the time between 2006 and 2011 and i would also like to explain how it was there generally without lebron james so after 2006 yes , they win the championship together with the referees great success after 2006 the following happened sweep lost in round 16 out in round one out again in round one very successful four years definitely then came the break we discussed the four years in detail then he missed the playoffs in the second round his chicago went out in the first round he went back to miami and he went out again in the first round that means when every time you didn't have a great vet in help no vet out of the top ten best players next to you, if he was in the playoffs, he was eliminated in the first round or eliminated in the second round at most, I am happy to answer this statement, that is not true, he just said that if he did not have his player by his side 2005 climbs to conference finals up pioneering game server admin against reigning champ with an old movie theater three years earlier thats prepaid computer was still a good version of shaquille o'neal in 2002 completed the freed there was no finals in 2003 2004 against detroit and that was then in 2005 and miami is not the check anymore and in 2006 it is definitely not the check anymore and even then you made it to the finals and you can do that refs often say that they won this series how you want at the end of the day, he brought them the final in the first place and I have to say that honestly and I will. me digressing too james never made it and you talked so bad about his support on kaarst just watch the spect disc once the same no what comparison 2006 member thats not the same 2011 by the way if we were talking about lebron james all the time we have the weight of two as the best player in the army we blogged at the cambridge finals 26 points 7 rebounds 5 assists 1.5 1.5 and we won it all if lebron hadn't had the vintage meltdown at the time and somehow understood how to play jason terry and jj barea in the post with 23 and 120 kilos, then you would have won these finals like here and wayne weighs well and it's fine, you understand me with lebron james he wants with imaginary titles, I can tell you the same if the rockets 27 trios continue to fail hit thanks to arrive to the rockets the location of the enemies he shot is but damn if he had aimed are you there since our how much of that for trevor a curl and widget launched acker and eric gor don who was with 27 james trio i say yes i can also say if he had won he would have been in the final and probably wouldn't have been there and we didn't talk about it we didn't talk he didn't win the fans ok i'm just telling you after you're pushing to the front all the time here in braunau that 2011 best miami jailbreak player was good and that's right thighs and that he reached the finals the best performances of his team james harden played with a very good version from chris paul thonig so when i injured chris paul then the stud when nothing wasn't there in game 7 and in game six it doesn't have to be good either yeah wonderful there would be james i'm not saying it went through your window i'm just saying james harden had better support incas than stupid almost admits the rockets you always have second nba team ran in this warriors and had a chance to beat warriors or spurs in 2015 16 and 17 and now i didn't make it ró after all he had a chance to lose his brain he missed the playoffs without lebron or they were played in the first round or the weekend of locked jan once in 2006 together with the referees and otherwise only next to lebron james ok hans these years of not only have we talked about 215 to 220 there is nothing comparable yes there is nothing comparable because he had the highest name trade ever played in this video game basketball players part of which we talked about could with 12 1 jailbreak drama champion have zero times champion team success twain weight one time finals mvp never have 200 mwp janeway 13 times james district have 9 x 38 x orlando only have seven times and one topic i haven't opened yet because it's too boring for me and because it would be so easy janeway thrice olympia the fans james ha gen - 10 olivier the fan is ok the guy was from the worst npd defender of the trails part the fans managed to become a mediocre defender h Today, five years after he already built the offensive li and we don't do that at all I don't debate at all because the fans are normal here his thing is one of the best guard defenders of all time one of the best blocking guards of all time and that means the debate is too much, definitely not too much if you dare. compare the absolute numbers of two players, where one played 17 years in the ngl, and the other only in his twelfth season, it is clear who played more star games there, what is where, of course, not very smart, just the things mentioned in jane white are only forward even though he has 6 more years on the hump i say now lead the debate for you not only let's watch six m al six times the entire nba first team in james has only twice in 17 years wainwright all nba first team pretty little hard if you copy price 53 score title for james harden a fair trade one is vain led in the south no system with 1 rule than this safety james has no weight shifted so this competition there i see james succeed there now you have a few thousand new i have if once old ex other why was it after removing all star games in popularity could yes yes and online? gf first that's what it comes down to holländers it's hard when you're in the same game as prime kubicas sorry it's hard because kobe bryant is playing in it but at the end of the day what is it all about? every debate is about rings it's about finals and you can't tell me anything james can even shine jd's shoes if something this good comes out four of his five finals were thanks to lebron james i'll tell you again danger is good, I already have babies from Asia, I'm four years old with Lebron and I watch the finals and how often he wins the championship and no it's not about rings and celebrations it's about who are the best basketball players and I'm not.
I need to talk more if you tell me you are so good as playmaker or pick and roll in raid 1 player is there you already lost me sorry I'm already out mentally already logged out yeah it sucks man because You just misinterpret my arguments. I told myself that he is a better pkk. by that i don't mean a good gamer handed in 150 arguments for james i gave you your one pixel song 2009 i gave you everything i have and everyone should have noticed long ago that's a very clear case for james having it's clear i like him plus jane wayne too i'm a big fan of both weights yeah and we're probably a little blinded by the years with lebron but if you look at the career and consider hagen's career is still going right now he's the best team and this game has a lot of chances to win the championship as recently as against spurs 30 15 and 14 machine triple-double point g uard he is a really rude point guard even he is short so difficult that he had or built such a strong team in the last few years you said you are our point guard kyrie irving reckons this trip is simply the baddest playmaker in the nba and you are the only human being in the world that doesn't acknowledge yourself no advertising acknowledges that and you don't want me to show knowledge of nonsense yes there were no words I can't understand yes I am at a loss for words make temporary times in the comments every time I say two expect peak is from 2004 or 2005 let's say until 2011 and I prefer that then come with yes but yes the one who plays along with the industry the peak I'm talking about is a year just before the tension band had only reached the final and thelast year in his sophomore season you don't seem to hear me only in his sophomore season you're making wayne weight in the conference finals of which he's there but he's the reigning champ when you leave home and you usually hear what you don't hear and where you make the crucial mistake you say on the one hand we just have to look at the peak today you define care as 2004 to 2011 but you still count your participation in the finals from 12 to 13 and 14 and your rings from 12 and 13 as decisive factors for the fact which baic better than you cant have both or we just do 24 to 211 the maximum range defined by you or we take the whole race because you cant get out of the range exclude the duh so i want to pick up the raisins and say there were two more championships than with glad i'll take it with a grain of salt so let me tell you right now i'm probably only talking about a year with the bomb and in the first year it was twain wake still the best player on the miami heat, wayn e waitin this prime made it to the final twice only once with one game was the winner of the final and refined arena p and this in his third season we haven't even talked about james was on the bench for the first three years in ok she i was on the bench that after i was shown houston while i was still in college he was on the bench dear congratulations i'd rather sit on the bench in the nba and pics of one of the top six men in the league than me still in marquette lecturing visitors somewhere sorry yeah ok sorry jailbreak 169 on the yoghurts just never sat in the dock. it was yeah waste of brain it was jenson's decision to get into the nba at the end of the day all you got except the offensive pay cheeky goblins and amazing stats that's all you got i got the success of the team, I have the defense, I only have a similar. talent now good basketball player rabid attacking player i kept saying 85 to 90 percent and you act like three revs ain't something we had to do by wayne peso expect him to take 83 in 2009 and shoot 35 percent that didn't exist in back then so no basketball was played so you cant expect that from him and when i look at what twainweight has done in his prime compared to what james has done so far he has done in his prime moment and knowing that he will only earn one more ring if he wins, but only along with Kevin Durant and Kevin Durant is the best player at Brooklands. having the support will be there as expected as it was with 2012 around 13 titles the only difference is wayne bridge won in 2006 and that's the end of the debate because finerz mwp and james will never have it right nostradamus can now too already looking into the future he knows james hall will never dominate seeing it said differently you can you can foresee everything that's perfect cause i know the best jumper i ag later your bets for the next one later i can still make a little money so at least i'll get a little i said everything already i'm fine it's definitely fine that's definitely thanks you're coming here with the shortest peak ever but nice since post peak still the championships say haase yes i always admit it i said yes don't correct my mistake and now you bring good to the reign of az xii and you have what you think.
What mistake are you making in the other debate? We are also talking about who is the best basketball player. You keep coming back with team success. Who is the best basketball? high you are offensive ok that is very level and then I won the debate in my eyes and now I don't feel like it anymore because I am repeating Leave me and I thought I would like to use what percentage of james hardens the defender of the twingo if you are surprised with the argument that I admit with pleasure that he is not quite the offensive player buses the defensive value of james has compared to the red that you should calculate the percentage of party games he is not the bad defender that was made in recent years he has progressed a lot on average currently he's a very strong defender i don't want to say outstanding but also the whole defender if he draws in construction he's the best recording guard of all time luckett before michael jordan before kobe bryant before every legendary guard wayne brings the best pint yes look at all his eight blogs in his two month peak on the wall really were outstanding and he achieved the right yes it has long been the all time debate yes enough ago now i would like a comment flu t see please arrange this realistically what happened here remember with your comment also a dear first getting used to instagram in the back just add it and now i am very curious what is going on in the comments it was so much fun debate absolutely passionate and yes how he said if you haven't seen the video in beer yet check that from here of course we will continue next week shorts celebrate thank you so much for watching see you next time
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