Issa Rae On Stages Of A Hoe Phase & That Awkward Time At The Strip Club
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timemy daughter was in high school I had to leave yes she's back I'm glad to see him it's Easter right head and get that last
timeso I'm so happy to hear that intro found out some very important information that somebody who is friends with
IssaRae they actually flew here from LA together to like gave us a little tidbit don't tell them how you her way to the top her name is Regina Hall yeah he said that he's a their way to the title I'm just going to ask you a question you sir no I did not my way to the top first of all I'm not at the top so I would have been a very poor your very own show and wrote and starring on HBO is kind of a tough we're not we met what you started we just already season 2 is let's a start on Sunday so we'll see are you nervous um I'm nervous but I'm more excited than nervous this
timearound I think season 1 I was mad nerd one of those season women I get so crazy man I'm with you guys and now you gotta just like the sophomore jinx like a sophomore jinx if anybody wasn't here what happened to all my insecurities yeah I mean there's your you always have pressure coming into the second season cos people are like are you about to top season one is it gonna go down and that was one of the things like we focused...
on like I didn't want to come out the gate even just in the writers room which is very clear that we want to keep it grounded and stay in these real people's heads and make sure that we're just telling an authentic story were you not waste not about twists and turns and how we can top ourselves so I'm nervous but I feel really strongly about all this stuff we're exploring this season like what like um one of the things I'm excited about like it's just always up there black women talk about but you don't get to see on TV like words that we dabble into the Jose okay every woman has to go to their whole face I think I think that three categories as women and in the whole face there's like the first category of women not everybody partake some women are just like you know I want to you know I want to be my king or I want to like keep it locked or I want to you know I just want to give it up to who's right and there's a specific category there those women then I think there there's someone when who engaged and they're like I'm not to have fun you know I'm not to just go out there and I'm not to do me I'm about to all I can and get my numbers up and some of those women are unfortunately relegated to a specific category and guy's eyes as hoes and they can't get out of it I just stuck me a hose and can't be but and it may be my choice bye guys love women that they call hosu at the same
don't know how you hoe and still try to talk to you we don't want to know you oh that's not true we don't want to know but I'm gonna no matter when you find out y'all will still talk to a girl know we'll try to smash but no not go end up married to them some people and I feel like that's the third category of women who are able to take on you like like seamlessly like they can double-dutch into Howry and they get their fix and then they're out and they're going about right they jump out with the therapist that is a perfect i'll go good you know it'll be interesting to see you on this season because you are single not by choice mm-hmm no can't believe they're gonna be dabbling in ho ISM I mean I think you're just gonna see her you're gonna see these characters figure out who they want don't want to be so I think there's a me like she's vulnerable at this point and she's had her heart broken she broke her heart and I think she's just like you know she wants I think she wants Laurens back but she has to figure out what she wants for herself that she was cheating with she should go back to Daniel yeah why they are made him really end on the best
timevery nice though today seemed like he really liked her he was a baby I thought they were huge but he wanted Lawrence she wanted Lawrence and she realized after she has sex with Daniel bit Lawrence was the guy for her just was too late it could all...
gone well if he's if she is getting on a showed up to that fundraiser I strongly believe they would have still been together in floors or a good blog would have never known that you that's true I did thing about the whole fate so I always say most women go to the whole fate in college yeah I think college is a good
timeto go to your whole face and alright just even in that early twenties I thought like there could be an expiration date and I've always thought that but it at 30 is I don't know because they said women have the best sex in they're like 40 yeah that's actually what Regina Hall was just saying to me just now she would know man but women do but the other thing is like I have friends who in their twenties found the person that they were going to be with settle down but then things didn't work out 15 years later but they never had that
phaseyeah and then is it you're asking us of like is it too late for me and it's no real expiration the whole
phasehas got to be hard with the social media era because everything is on social media so people tweet now how I'm right now my house is Holly so sneaking around I do some
times we got it right let's go and I put less whole al-qaeda pee into a chair right next to each other I've done it so miserably I think that's what that is but I don't know I felt like there is a lot more one I think because of social media I think people are more open about talking about their holy...
and then there's a lot of people blast people like there's so much there's so much like cruelty in terms of exposing people exactly when it's like jeez you slept together - you guys made a decision to sleep with each other for the most part what am I going to ask me after you decided to sleep with me again you want to get at one and it's also more accessible because you can just slide in those DM it makes it more accessible for people to hook up with random people you don't even have to leave the house so easy I mean growing as woman should be able to have sex when nobody want to like I saw you tweet outta control makes me wish I had a bathtub weed candles in a temporary this is true I did but that wasn't that was the mood that was looking at them dude I don't even smoke I can't we doesn't agree with me but it made me feel that way and I love I love them so much oh it was fun it's just it is incredible I just I have that core with that guy named Kofi Kofi scissors what's his name at companies everyone so Ruby have you shot Jerry Bell he always flirting with you I mean he's a he's a very handsome guy like I seen him jump out the window somebody the other day and it was like I can't wait to wipe over you to read he was like nah yeah that had me dying laughing I was it was he wasn't in gross I don't know if he says yes all girls ship I thought it was hilarious it was you know I love to Zona I love the jaded like...
Tiffany Haddish is hilarious in the movie of course Regina I'm always a super fan maybe like intro be like hmm did I make it I mean I feel fine like at the end of the day he's fine penny legitimately shot a shot oh that's just some social media stuff I'm not really dating on the low Nate oh no boy no dang I do not know somebody's blasted in this way you know I've seen them alone that's it no no secret dating whatsoever you guys have each other's numbers oh wow y'all know if people be in the new series of interviews but we have a bunch of other great carriers refusing well you got any last season you had would you dinner together we have come on Oliver I can't say because the variety reporter we have sterling K Brown who's going to be on this season which I'm really excited about look around cause he won't stop too many well yes Norrell is on this season he's pretty prominent and you know for the rest of people you have to wax I can't even I still can't believe you cheated on Lord and then I read your book and realized you cheat oh yeah I had a pass you know there's some elements that are based on you are you easy on me I mean I've had you know transgressions I'd like to call it but you know you learn it for me it was just always a defense mechanism just giving like I didn't want to have feelings for people I didn't want to it was like cheat or cheap be cheated on and it was just a stupid way...
to think but you know I've always I still am very honest in my relationships I don't give you hard-pressed to find anyone who's never cheated in their life I've met a couple people who haven't had money those isn't that I think I think everybody has whether you're emotionally cheating you're physically cheating like it's just it's hard to be like monogamy or something I'm interested to see so Jay Ellis is going to be on this new season Oh 100% yeah okay yeah Lawrence yeah you're going to be going really hard to get him back or is it like okay I got to give him some space you gotta watch why isin space good I mean space is good but you just gotta know space just means I'ma be I had given back shots the more young women okay just the one you saw at the end of the ladder you guys you are such a fan you are such as I remember oh my god so heard like you really wanted to I've seen you repeatedly say you want to cease the suffering I don't I I want to see you balled up in the feet why are you so mad I was on ice cream Oh easy to feel ago is that in high school oh yeah that's gonna happen yeah I mean I get it I think women should suffer when they cheat on a good man Big Joe I've suffered and were you a good man at the
timeno talking about it's always one-sided I feel like they're two sides to every story am I in my real life of course I feel like you know Lawrence was trying his best and that was a very...
cruel thing to happen but I'm all about forgiveness and then she all the
timeand women take them back all the
timebecause I don't know we're and we stupid and we can be down so no you're not y'all y'all really are that's what that's the problem with women and men when women cheat is something emotional involved minja yeah I don't think that's that exactly you know I think Simon and I think that that's a stereotype I think women can be completely unemotional about cheating the mama just mad because they felt like and have no feelings for the guy rambarose so they don't really shock what's that always felt like Lawrence was slipping a little bit and maybe that is how your character did manage to hook up with somebody else cuz he forgot a you know didn't do anything for her birthday he was kind of on the couch for years you held him down for so long and there were certain things that he didn't step up and do them and he should've did them and I kind of felt like I put a little bit of a disconnect for you guys for a period of
timeI think I think that's part of it but I think it is mostly on her like you know if that were the case I felt like their communication really really needed some work and for me it was just I thought like it was more about her decision I think that once she saw Daniel once she had this whole revelation that she wasn't doing what she wanted to be doing in life that she had been...
passive in you that I moved out to for a period of
timeI mean she just she just left the house and didn't call him back it which is also a very passive thing to do something when she planted the seed like I want to change my life I want to do something different in a matter of Lauren stepped up his game or not she had already once a girl knows that she's gonna you know you're definitely with somebody else if I gotta have a shot at all if he had been all along doing what you know what I could doing baby McGruder because you made the choice to stay with she made the choice to to stay with him you know at the
timeand because he had they had both recommitted to each other and episode three they decide like we're going to recommit to each other but she had already opened that door with Daniel and once he came back it was hard to say no I'll be able to forget that that's a character you played I'd be so mad at you some
times like my mentioned when she went Yvonne came on the show I woke up from a text reverse alright I was like girl just just so you know no it's not my fault but don't check your phone today and I was like what happened and then it was just all day cheater okay no wet ask a cheater I'll watch the show but she would cheater baby where did you come from so thank you for showing me your power that was great I decided before getting them to the happy place if you vacuole aversion bike she did she give them by the
that's about her to tell you I mean to my knowledge it you guys may have questions man are you really writing this movie with Rihanna and Lupita directed by Ava um that just some sort of stuff to Twitter is so powerful I mean they're great to even just have my name in the running for that but every
timeI'm asked that question I defer to Ava whatever she says whatever she says that what is what the word is so baby says happenin examine if Ava says is happening it's happening but she says it's not in I'm confirmed which I believe she has said then it's didn't snot and she has also said that you know we're on a texting so I guess I can say that too Oh y'all got a group text so as you able Rihanna and Lupita si Ava said so okay what's your name of the group had funny names for their group chat um uh y'all have got me yo Scotty how do you feel about getting shut out of the Emmys twice feeling away I mean it would have been amazing it would have been like a good look for season two but it just makes me want to work harder okay because you got nominated for Golden Globe like they don't use I mean they overlap some
times but I feel like you know I think Emmys and Oscars overlap with the Golden Globes a little bit but there's something that sums it some I just don't make it but I'm proud of the work that we're doing for like oh man I got the love I really got the love that day which was incredible but I'm like...
these these things go how they go and I feel like all we can do is just keep on proving ourselves and there's so many shows that I love they have not been nominated for many Emmys so Lebanese get everything used to get on it but Emmy but I got a Eponine yep did you feel like it was a black thing no not no because there are so many amazing black shows that have been nominated by people so I mean I think it's just a visibility thing I think it's a you know the television Academy is is limited in there so there and there's just so much good stuff out there right now that you just got to really be at the cream of the crop to stand out so we'll do our best what happens next year I read your book interact because you exude a confidence like on the shoulder you didn't have growing up did anybody have a lot of confidence or oh I mean I guess I know some people that were like vitiligo in like killing it but then they came and I was it but I just yeah I mean I struggled with confidence I think I had my confidence shattered in various moments and that's always just affected however with insecurities I mean how I looked how you know I was I was overweight I was you know from Senegal and you know coming to the States for the first
timeand then being from the East Coast movin to the West Coast like oh it's changing schools every two years always having to reintroduce myself and like there was just there were always elements but I feel like it's not...
different from any other adolescent story it's just I took it really high diversity thing was interesting for me because like that's my daughter Natalie my daughter like that oh no a girl yeah you know what I'm saying it's so like the pressure to be black and even as a father right I go to use like little events and stuff all of using they play it black so to be like we yeah and all that and then you realize your daughter Karen a that was me and then being expected to Whitman in a rain just not being able to deliver but I think after once I once I came from you know predominately white school my mom was just like you're becoming too white we're going to get you out of these schools and I went to you know an all-black high school in I mean it was black of Mt no high school on the border watching content and then once I was immersed in that I I kind of went the opposite route like I haven't had any like I haven't had any white friends in a while I just realize like I was just gonna come from college you know I went to Stanford and was in the the black community they're so strong and I just immersed myself in that of course majored in Black Studies then professionally had a bunch of jobs that were predominantly african-american okay so I just only realized that in being in the writers room and you know we have a couple of write writers who are now my friends who are amazing and I remember just like judging them in judging white people in...
general I think I made a blanket statement like if you're white you don't have any black friends like you're you're racist or you're missing for like whatever and then I I realized like I don't really have white friends and in my one races but I can't be very candid about how'd you lose so much weight um and how big were you so you were perfectly advisee I what do you say I'm a size I said you were sighs II doesn't oh yeah I mean I think I've saw my size a at least oh that's not big at all yeah now you see no no no you say that you know well man this is not good today I lose weight I started eating I started I stopped eating all of the things and started eating less of the things and once you on TV like people have been on fan people say like oh HDL made her do or she felt that Hollywood pressure I've been trying to lose weight since I was 12 like that's just that's just in for me this actually gave me a reason to do it and you know it really just is about like how I feel like I want to look and it's all vanity is vanity like I want to look good in a bathing suit a summer
timeI want to look good to me naked like that's that's it and then when December rolls around I'll be eaten again and you wanna tell what in the book you love my wigs you got sick right I can't remember even what
timeperiod that was I got I think I lost weight oh no because I went to Senegal I lost that weight cuz you're...
eating all regimented
times and you don't just snack all day and then you're walking everywhere and it's hot as hell so it's like being in a sauna and then in college I lost more weight when you wrote this book you didn't have the TV deal with HBO yet win this book no I had just been a mouse like I was in early development and then no I wrote it before we were actually writing ourselves so there's another book coming soon in because that means a lot it was hard things have changed and I do think that the like wallet book I stand by it like I was obviously a lot younger when I wrote it and I have more experiences that I've had this so there's some things I've said in there while I'm like are you talking about like you don't think that way anymore but um well that's okay Michael I was a Malcolm Gladwell the bottom Gladwell said the same thing about his work yeah I think it just shows that you evolved and because the the publishing schedule is so like far in advance you know I I feel like I automatically when when as soon as it release thank you thank you for this bug I was like okay I've experienced so much and so much has happened in the world that I've got I kind of feel like I said some irresponsible things that I just don't stand by but for the most part I stand by everything that I said in that book anymore not gonna tell you can read it and be like oh does she still think like that and I don't it is the Viji...
guy the black know you'll find something in there now how are you working on other things I know insecure obviously is a lot very
time-consuming but do you have
timeto say okay I'm going to do this movie or I'm going to do yeah I'm writing a couple of movies now and you know have opportunities for for to be in other movies but I love saying behind the scenes I'm producing another show with a writer that I'm super excited about and that's going to be on me off um months of the insecure and you know cotton still constantly producing work um online just via YouTube with other I've become a writer creators so it just it really doesn't stop I'm always doing something I like to keep my hands in in different baskets that's what I like about you we talked about the last
timeI spoke to you the BG genius talks but the fact that you're still going back to YouTube like you got to show on YouTube now it's called um there's one milk and honey it was yeah there's BSU um there's another series that I'm really excited about called Giants that it was went into its second season but we have a lot of content we always do short films a short from Sundays once a month and that you know highlights another black creative or a woman of color creative so we're all here and then oh and the goal is to just you know put people in the system because these are the people that we ultimately reference to bring in our writers rooms or...
recommend for other jobs or to write other films and so it's just really about facilitating a system where we can be seen and heard and that way you can't have the excuse like we couldn't find any black writers and confine any black creatives um so a one step at a
timenow do you have the Mona scott-young contract with uh the people on your show because I mean a lot of them popular like Amanda bubbling and she's ID popping you got bubbles like she's getting another young lady with the kid I know I know Vaughn other one she's got a deal on a passion well she would be funny though she was also already popping soon she had a she was an SNL writer and then had her Netflix special before we got her and she's just such a great addition to the show but no I don't well I don't know what the Mona scott-young really anti-drug is I own you anything you do for the next seven years I'm getting a piece not on anyone maybe I should is that real but that's also like the SML contract right they owned only good people in the Ryan Seacrest contract he's making Bank off of the Kardashians which is crazy to me but no I don't I'm not that smart I know it's not like you created these people they came in exactly in there because they already had their own things happening they're loaning on their talents to the show and you know I'm just grateful to be even be able to work with them and you know they make the show better at the end...
of the day so um I don't think I can I can take a piece of a lot of more more money the second C's are way more money do you have the ass Ronnie so you haven't asked me for more money I mean yesterday Patti did with their lawyers with the first I would know nothing like I'll take whatever that was poppin you be like I now it's not we just started so yes no no I'm not going to be like hey I need more money or I'm not coming back we're gonna figure it out I mean they could try that but I'm saying like do that when the show is like popping popping popping but we're we're just getting stuck in your head do you have an amount of seasons that you see this going yes really humming hmm I don't want to say no I can't give any feel no III think there's a finite story to be told and I love like I hate when things drag out I just love a good beginning middle and ends and that's what I want to do with this show but if you do do that that's kind of like the end of the aqua black girl thing all together all right uh I mean
awkwardblack girl is the face and secure as a project you know I think there's just an as I grow I want to tell different stories and I want to produce other people's stories that I relate to so I feel like that's okay like things have beginnings and ends and you know I always feel I always identify laughs Rebecca always identify as insecure in some elements of my life but there are other stories...
and I want to tell them and I just would like to just have that stand alone and be good as opposed to being like oh it's 2014 which Billy aren't you mm-hmm and then your book you talk about hair hierarchy yes - like you set it on that room I settled on the next row it's a hair that goes on my head yeah hahaha like oh that damn no that's not true yes I hate I love my natural hair it's just you know for a while I was like struggling with like what how do I wear my hair like I don't nobody else is wearing their hair like this in this way it's all about you know either wheeze or relaxing hair and all of that is fine but my hair personally can't take that like when I tried to firm and relaxed I begged my mom to like let me do it and she was like your hair can't handle it tell me and I was like no but everybody else's schools got it like just let me do it and then of course my hair fell out she was like I told her bald-headed ass like that was a sufficient done that and half
times changed now everybody celebrates the natural no perm no weave it's such a big thing right now especially in the hair care industry everybody's catering to that natural here and they're like I love Easter easier I think it happens in cycles you know I think we we constantly pray like a minute obviously in the seventy's natural here was like a huge element and it was all about black power and embracing it and I think now I think people are just super...
open to it but they're not it it's not at the expense of relaxing your hair or you know whatever else you can do to your hair I think it's just like now this is a new way you can wear and you can celebrate it and it's been around forever people have been doing it forever but it's great that it's being celebrated in the way that it is without putting down like all you were we like every we can wear any style we want to right now that if you are dating somebody they get mad when you tweet out pictures of you like no one is even a relationship she said she's because I've said I've said nothing nothing that I need a butt okay legend told her and coffee together mother he did upset and he treat our pictures idris elba and be like huh nobody gets upset about anything that I do because you know what I do is just things out I was hacked I don't have too good no I mean I stand by what if I if you if you find someone attractive like you I say it and in fact a minute insecure no pun intended men are are very insecure but I tend to deal with you know men who tend to be confident would you be upset if you man posted a woman crush Wednesday of someone else yes I will suck him up no I don't I don't I don't mind actually I don't know I've never been analyzed yes women question way that's like shooting a shot for real is it it's just posting someone at you Amaya also and very like I'm literally just saying this person is...
the judge of I'm not trying to shoot my shot I'm not doing anything because all reputation is a cheater my character has a reputation everything was so array is a cheater even in our book she talks about it like um that was a pat it was old it wasn't passed with a very specific
timeperiod yes yeah you know dude G what do Daniel mentions again I know okay please say automations don't I'm not a cheater oh please well I'm super excited for insecure to come back and we celebrate you I love the shot was telling me before we came in here I love that the not trying to have to act like you're perfect we have everything together that you have brought that really to the forefront cuz I feel like a lot of
times with black women we have to try to give off this image of okay I got everything together we're holding it down but we are falling perfect you just bring it to nobody are you okay to be
awkwardcuz I have all kinds of
awkwardsituations in my whole life so it is nice to feel like they're they just somebody else that is successful in
awkwardThank You Gina again man everything is ugly she is that's why was John table and you know having a chance to work with her for a couple of years now and she's just one of the most very well said she walked on the plane and saw you she said what's up because she had to repeat it I was like alright dog at the scenes you know I say what's up in effect did not have the same thing but I thank you...
for saying that thank you for like always supported to show you guys been so so amazing I got to tell you last
timeI was here and I was too shy to tell you but I thought you out of
cluband I was so impressed cuz you were like you were dropping him one well she well she wasn't she was not working was i enforcer
Clubyeah it was my first non Los Angeles
clubbecause I've been are not first female
clubit was in the Miami replies was there that night I Rico laughs Rico love I don't know where we at the office or where we add um titties I don't know what it was it was definitely not boozy no oh I was first of all I went there Oh someone else brought me there I was just with the group of girls because there was somebody's birthday and she wanted to go to the
clubwere you darlings I was storming 20s because I was an idiot man I was an idiot ready I was very much and I was taking a backup and then thrown and again because I was like she didn't even see me success is because this is $20 to check me they seen it did banks Sylvania and then I was going back to ATM I was just very impressed I spent I mean I probably felt like $500 a night it wasn't why don't you get changed you know well great I don't know why I think it was also very drunken it was like it was too much of a line to get sick to get change and I was I was also a little wait on line to get change I did it wrong you know when was this is this
black girl you too but insecure if this is right before and secure it was like me it was the weekend it was a revolt weekend and amazed that we were going to be picked up to series open the zoo for the first season that would be like shout outs in the
clubyet no no not at all not at all but I was excited to see I see you there and I was like really how'd it gave us tackle lines to go you know you were busy my fellas flies but it was okay that's impressive yeah we had a minimal question do you think cheating is ever justifiable no I don't think so I don't think I think you just have to communicate wish a partner in all cause I think lie it's unfair to to not tell your partner like hey I'm about to be on the street so I want to end its relationship with you so no it's never just available thank you for talking that you sort of not using a characteristic I heard that if you cheat and the person to find out you shouldn't tell them I mean if they're not cuz some people do it to like I've heard that tune and they say that's all it does yeah they say it's selfish to say if you cheat it and you're not going to get caught don't tell because all it does is make the other person feel terrible and ease your own guilt yeah I I always ask if people want to know like you know like do man I feel like men don't want to know I don't want to heart they just want to exist and know that this relationship is perfect and move on oh is...
that do I want to always like I always want to know I want to know everything like I feel like like I'm turned on by honesty I love knowing everything that you know is happening upfront your thoughts your feelings what you don't like about the relationship like that's I like that I live I thought off of communication and I feel like I need a mystery bait all you got to do if you get caught cheating to tell the truth all right man I read it she was so wet all right and not on that yeah now I'm in an open with the best by you shirt hanging no because it closed with the best flasher shahnameh can you like we're moving on from this G I don't need you to be crying for the fourth episode hello auntie watch out on the couch crying right I mean I get it you just watch the first episode and you'll see what happens can't wait what it is I am I played third man it's a black woman strong we can know I'm right all right oh yeah yeah yeah no III ladies and gentlemen Hank cigars