Issa Rae On Stages Of A Hoe Phase & That Awkward Time At The Strip Club

you're watching The Breakfast Club in the morning, everyone's a DJ, they envy Angela Yee Charlamagne, God, we're The Breakfast Club. We have a special guest in the building. I missed her the last

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my daughter was in high school. I had to go. Yes, she came back. I'm glad to see it, it's Easter, head right and getting that last

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, so I'm really happy to hear that intro uncovered some very important information that someone who is friends with Issa Rae, they actually flew here together from Los Angeles to like, gave us a A little tidbit, don't tell them how he got to the top.

Her name is Regina Hall, yes, he said he is her way to the title. I'm just going to ask you one question, sir, no, I didn't make it to the top. First of all, I'm not at the top, so I would have been very poor. Your own show and writing and starring on HBO is a little difficult, no, we met what you started, it's just now season 2 is, come on. a start on Sunday, so we'll see, are you nervous? um, I'm nervous, but this time I'm more excited than nervous. I think in season 1 I was crazy, nerdy, one of those women of the season, I go so crazy with the one I'm with. you guys and now you must like the sophomore curse like a sophomore curse if someone wasn't here, what happened to all my insecurities?

Yeah, I mean, you always have pressure getting to season two because people are like, are you about to top it? The first season is going down and that was one of the things we focused on, like it doesn't want to go out the door even in the writers' room, which is very clear that we want to keep it grounded and stay in these. real people's heads and make sure we're just telling an authentic story, don't waste the twists and turns and how we can better ourselves, so I'm nervous, but I feel very sold on all of these things that we're exploring this season. like something like um, one of the things that excites me, like it's always up there what black women talk about, but you can't see on TV words like we dabbled in José, okay, every woman has to do everything possible. face, I think I think there are three categories of women and in the whole face there is like the first category of women, not everyone participates, some women are like you know, I want you to know, I want to be my king or I want to keep it. blocked or I want you to know, I just want to give up who's right and there's a specific category there, those women, so I think there's someone who compromised and they say I shouldn't have fun, you know?

I'm not going to just go out and do nothing to myself. I'm about to do everything I can and increase my numbers and some of those women are unfortunately relegated to a specific category and men's eyes are like hoes and they can't. get out of this, I just hosed myself and it can't be, but it can be my choice, bye, guys love women they call hosu at the same time because guys don't know how you love and still try to talk to you. We don't want to know you, oh that's not true, we don't want to know, but I won't care when you find out, you'll still talk to a girl.

I know we'll try to crush, but no, don't go. Some people end up married to them and I feel like that's the third category of women that are able to take you on without a problem, like they can double click on Howry and they get their fix and then they go out and they're. they're going well, they're going out with the therapist, that's perfect, I'll do well, you know, it'll be interesting to see you on this season because you're single, not by choice mm-hmm, no, I can't believe they're going to do it. Be dabbling in ho ISM I mean, I think you're just going to see her, you're going to see these characters figure out who they want and don't want to be, so I think there's a self like she's vulnerable at this point and she's already had it.

Heartbroken, she got her heart broken and I think she's like you know she wants. I think she wants Laurens back, but she has to figure out what she wants for herself that she was cheating on her with. She should go back to Daniel, yes, why did they do it. It really ended on the best time, very nice, although today it seemed like he really liked her, she was a baby, I thought they were huge, but he wanted Lawrence, she wanted Lawrence and she realized it after having sex with Daniel . Little, Lawrence was the guy for her, he just was. too late, everything could have gone well if he, if she showed up at that fundraiser, I firmly believe they would have still been in the flats together or a good blog would never have known that you, that's true, I did something about the whole destination.

So I always say that most women try their best in college, yeah I think college is a good time to go all in your face and that's fine, even when I was in my early twenties I thought there might be an expiration date and I have always thought about it. that, but at 30 it's, I don't know why they said women have the best sex at 40, yeah, that's actually what Regina Hall was telling me a moment ago, she would recognize men, but women yes, but the other thing is. I have friends who in their twenties found that the person they were going to be with calmed down, but then things didn't work out 15 years later, but they never had that

phase

, yeah, and then that's what you're asking us.

It's too late for me and it's not a real expiration, the whole

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has to be difficult with the age of social media because everything is on social media, so people now tweet how I am now, my house is Holly, like this that sometimes I slip away. I did it right, let's go and put less whole Al Qaeda urine on a chair, side by side. I have done so miserably. I think that's what it is, but I don't know. I felt that there is much more. I think because of social media, I think people are more open about talking about their saint and then there are a lot of people criticizing people like there's so much cruelty in terms of exposing people exactly when it's like They slept together.

The guys made the decision to sleep together for the most part, what am I going to wonder after you decided to sleep with me again? You want to reach one and it's also more accessible because you can just swipe through those direct messages, it does. more accessible for people to connect with random people, you don't even have to leave home, it's so easy. I mean growing up as a woman, I should be able to have sex when no one likes it. I saw you tweet out of control it makes me wish I had a bathtub weed candles in a storm this is true I did it but it wasn't that was the mood I was looking at you friend I don't even smoke I can't you don't agree with me but it made me feel like that and I love them, I love them so much, oh, it was fun, it's amazing.

I just have that core with that guy named Kofi. Kofi scissors, what is it called in companies? So, Ruby, you shot Jerry Bell, he always flirts with you, I mean. He is a very handsome guy. I saw him jump out someone's window the other day and it was like he couldn't wait to clean you up so he could read. He said, "No, yeah, that made me die laughing. I was, it was him." Not raw, I don't know if he says yes, all the girls are sent. I thought it was funny, you know. I love Zona. I love jaded ones like Tiffany Haddish, she's funny in the movie, of course, Regina.

I'm always super. fan maybe as an introduction it's like hmm I made it I mean I feel good like at the end of the day he's okay a penny legit fired a shot oh that's just some social media stuff. I'm not really dating on a low level Nate oh no boy no damn I don't know anyone has been criticized like this you know I've seen them alone that's all no there are no secret dates you guys have the numbers from each one, oh wow, everyone knows if people will be on the new interview series, but we have a bunch of other big shippers refuse, well, do you have any last season that you had, would you have dinner together?

We've come with Oliver, I can't tell because the variety reporter we have Sterling K Brown who will be on this season, which I'm really excited to look around because it won't stop a lot of things right, yeah, Norrell is on this season, It's quite prominent and you know that for the rest of the people you have to shave. I can't even, I still can't believe you cheated on Lord and then I read your book and realized you were cheating oh yeah I had a pass you know there are some elements that are based on you are you going easy on me?

I mean, I've had transgressions, you know, I'd like to call it, but you know. Learn it for me, it was always a defense mechanism, just acting like I didn't want to have feelings for people I didn't, it was like cheating or being cheated on and it was just a stupid way of thinking, but you know I always have. . I remain very honest in my relationships. It's not hard for me to find anyone who has never been unfaithful in their life. I've known a couple of people who haven't had any money. Those are not the things I do.

I think everyone has done it, whether you're cheating emotionally or physically, like it's hard to be like monogamy or something. I'm interested to see, so Jay Ellis will be in this new season. Oh, 100%, yes, he's fine, yes. Lawrence, yeah, you're going to work really hard to get him back or okay, I have to give him some space. You have to see why space is good. I mean, space is nice, but just know that space just means I know I had given back the injections to more young women, okay, just the one you saw at the bottom of the stairs, you guys are such bigots, you're like that.

I remember, oh my God, so I heard like they really wanted to. I have seen them. Say repeatedly that you want to stop the suffering. Not me, I want to see you curled up in a ball, why are you so angry? I was having ice cream. Oh, the easy thing to feel is that in high school, oh yeah, that's going to happen, yeah, I mean. I get it, I think women should suffer when they cheat on a good man, Big Joe, I've suffered and if you were a good man at the time, it's not talked about, it's always one sided.

I feel like there are two sides to every story. In my real life, of course, I feel like you know Lawrence was trying her hardest and that was a very cruel thing to do, but what matters most to me is forgiveness and then she all the time and women back out all the time because I don't. I don't know what we are and we are stupid and we can be depressed so no you guys aren't you guys really are that's what that's the problem with women and men when women cheat it's something emotional involved minja, yeah, i don't know.

I think that's exactly, you know, I think Simon and I think that's a stereotype. I think women can be completely unmoved when cheating on the mom, just angry because they feel like it and have no feelings for the guy, so they aren't surprised. What's that? I always felt like Lawrence was fading a little bit and maybe that's how your character managed to connect with someone else because he forgot that he didn't do anything for his birthday, he was like on the couch for years, you hugged him. for so long and there were certain things that he didn't step up and do and he should have done them and I felt like I put a little bit of a disconnect on them for a period of time, I think I think that's part of it, but I think it mostly depends from her, you know, if that was the case, I felt like her communication really needed some work and for me it was just I thought it was more about her decision. once she saw Daniel, once she had this whole revelation that she wasn't doing what she wanted to do in life, that she had been passive with you when I moved away for a period of time, I mean, she just left the house. . and I didn't call her back, which is also a very passive thing to do something when she planted the seed like I want to change my life I want to do something different in a matter of whether Lauren stepped up her game or not, she had already done that. once a girl knows she's going to do it, you know you're definitely with someone else if I have to have a chance, if he had been doing it all along what he could do, baby McGruder, because you made the decision to stay with her. the choice to stay with him, you know at that point and because he had done it, they had both recommitted to each other and in episode three they decide that we're going to recommit to each other, But she had already opened that door with Daniel and once he returned, it was hard to say no.

I'll be able to forget that that's a character you played. He sometimes made me very angry with you, as I mentioned when he left. Yvonne came to the program. I woke up to a backwards text message. Alright? it was like girl just so you know no it's not my fault but don't check your phone today and I thought what happened and then it was all day cheater okay not wet ask a cheater. I'll watch the show, but she would. Trickster baby, where do you come from, so thank you for showing me your power, that was great.

I decided before I took them to the happy place. If your vacuole aversion bike, she did it, she gave it to him at that time, oh, that's about her telling you. As far as I know, you guys may have questions, man, are you guys really writing this movie with Rihanna and Lupita directed byAva? um, those kinds of things for Twitter are so powerful. I mean, they're cool to even have my name on the race. that, but every time I get asked that question, I leave it up to Ava, whatever she says, whatever she says, what's the word, so baby says it's happening, examine if Ava says it's happening , it's happening, but she says it's not on.

I am confirmed. I think she said then that she was no snot and she also said they know we're on text so I guess I can say that too. Oh y'all got a group text so you can Rihanna and Lupita if Ava I said it okay what's the name of the group? He had fun names for his group chat. um, uh, everyone's got me, Scotty, how does it feel to have been shut out of the Emmys twice? Feeling distant. I mean, it would have been amazing. been like a goodLook for the second season, but it makes me want to work harder, okay, because they nominated you for the Golden Globe like they don't use, I mean, sometimes they overlap, but I feel like you know, I think the Emmys and The Oscars overlap a little bit with the Golden Globes. a little bit but there's something that sums it up some I just don't get it but I'm proud of the work that we're doing like oh man I got the love I really got the love that day which It was amazing, but I'm like, these things go the way they go and I feel like all we can do is keep proving ourselves and there are so many shows that I love that haven't been nominated for many Emmys, so the Lebanese are They usually are there, but at the Emmy, but I received an Eponine, yes, did you feel that it was something black?

No, no, no, because there are so many amazing black shows that have been nominated by people, so I think it's just a matter of visibility. I think it's a you know, the Television Academy. This is limited, so there are so many good things available at the moment that you really have to be in the cream of the crop to stand out, so we will do our best. What will happen next year. I read your book. because you exude a shoulder-to-shoulder confidence that you didn't have as a kid, was anyone very confident? oh, I mean, I guess I know some people who were like vitiligo and they liked to kill it, but then they came and I was, but I just, I mean, I struggled with confidence.

I think my confidence was shattered at various times and that is always affected, however with the insecurities, I mean how I looked, how you know I was, I was overweight, I was from Senegal and you know I come from. to the United States for the first time and then being from the East Coast moving to the West Coast like, oh, changing schools every couple of years, always having to reintroduce myself and like there's always elements, but I feel like it's no different than anyone else. . another teenage story, is that I took it as really high diversity.

It was interesting to me because that's my daughter Natalie, my daughter like that, oh no, a girl, yeah, you know what I'm saying, it's like the pressure of being black and even as a Father, right, I use it like little events and those things, everyone uses them, they play it in black, so to be like us, yeah and all that, and then you realize that your daughter Karen was me and then they expected me to be Whitman in the rain, it just wasn't there. able to comply, but I think after one time I came from a predominantly white school, my mom was like you're getting too white, we'll take you out of these schools and I went to, you know, an all black school. high school in I mean, I was black from Mt no high school on the border watching content and then once I was immersed in it, I took the opposite route like I didn't have any, like I didn't have white friends in Por a while I realized that I just came out of college, you know, I went to Stanford and I was in the black community, they are very strong and I immersed myself in that, of course, I majored in Black Studies and then professionally I had a lot of jobs that were predominantly African-American, okay, so I only realized that from being in the writers' room and you know, we have a couple of writers who are now my friends who are amazing and I remember I liked judging them when judging the whites in In general, I think I made a blanket statement like if you're white you don't have black friends, you're racist, or you're missing for whatever and then I realized I don't really have whites. friends and in my careers, but I can't be very honest about how you lost so much weight and how big you were, so you were perfectly advised.

What are you saying? I am a size. I said you were sighs. No, oh yeah, I mean, I think I've seen my size at least, oh, that's nothing big, yeah, now you see, no, no, you say you know it right, man, this ain't no good today, I went down weight, I started eating. I started, I stopped eating all the things and I started eating less and once you got on TV, people became fans and people said, oh, HDL made her do it or she felt the pressure from Hollywood. I've been trying to lose weight since I was 12, that's just for me, this actually gave me a reason to do it and you know, it's really about how I feel like I want to look and it's all vanity, vanity, like I want to look good in a bathing suit in the summer I want to look good naked that's all and then when December comes they will eat me again and you mean what in the book you love my wigs, you got sick right?

I do not remember. even in what period of time I had, I think I lost weight, oh no, because I went to Senegal. I lost that weight because you're eating at all regimented times and you're not just snacking all day and then you walk everywhere and it's so hot, it's like being in a sauna and then in college I lost more weight when you wrote this book, no. you had the TV deal with HBO and you still won this book, no, it had just been a mouse like it was in the early

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of development. and then no, I wrote it before we actually wrote it ourselves, so there's going to be another book soon because that means it was hard.

Things have changed and I think the wallet book I keep as if I was obviously much younger. when I wrote it and I had more experiences that I had, so there's some things I said in there while I was thinking, are you talking like you don't think that way anymore? But hey, it's okay, Michael. was a Malcolm Gladwell, the one below Gladwell said the same thing about his work, yeah, I think it just shows that you've evolved and because the publishing schedule is so far in advance, you know, I feel like automatically when, as soon as it's published, thank you.

Thanks for this error. I thought, "Okay, I've experienced so much and so much has happened in the world that I have. I feel like I said some irresponsible things that I just don't let go of, except for the most part, I stand by everything I said in that book." "I won't tell you. You can read it and say, 'Oh, she still thinks like that?' and I don't. "It's the Viji guy, the black one. I know you'll find something there." Now, how are you working on other things? I know it's insecure, obviously, it takes a lot of time, but do you have time to say, "Okay, I'm going to make this movie" or "Yes," I'm writing a couple of movies now and you know, I have opportunities to be in other movies, but I love saying behind the scenes that I'm producing another show with a writer that I'm really excited about and that will take away months of insecurity. and you know, Cotton is still constantly producing work online just through YouTube with others.

I've become a creative writer so it doesn't really stop. I'm always doing something where I like to have my hands in different baskets, that's what I do. Like you, we talked about the last time I talked to you, the BG genius talks, but the fact that you still come back to YouTube like you showed it on YouTube now it's called, there's a milk and honey, it was yeah, there's BSU um, there's another series that I'm really excited about called Giants, which has entered its second season, but we have a lot of content, we always make short films, a short on Sundays, once a month and, you know, it highlights another black creative or a creative woman of color so we're all here and then oh and the goal is just to put people into the system because these are the people we ultimately reference to bring into our writers rooms or recommend for others jobs or writing others. movies, so it's really about facilitating a system where we can be seen and heard and that way you can't have the excuse that we couldn't find black writers and confine black creatives, so now let's step by step passed.

Do you have Mona Scott-Young's contract with the people on your show? Because I mean a lot of them popular like Amanda bubbling and she's busting her ID. You have bubbles like she's getting another young lady with the kid. I know I know Vaughn, another one. she has a deal about a passion, well she would be fun, although she was also coming up early, she was a writer for SNL and then she had her Netflix special before we got her and she's a great addition to the show, but no, I. No, well, I don't know what Mona Scott-Young's fight against drugs really is.

I am yours, everything you do for the next seven years. I'm getting a piece, not from anyone, maybe I should, it's that real, but that's also like. the SML contract, they only owned good people in the Ryan Seacrest contract, he is turning Bank into the Kardashian bank, which is crazy to me, but no, no, I'm not that smart. I know it's not like you created these people they came into. exactly there because they already had their own things going on, they're lending their talents to the show and you know, I'm grateful to be able to work with them and you know they make the show better at the end of the day so um I don't think I can I can take a piece of a lot more money the second C's are a lot more money you have the ass Ronnie so you haven't asked me for more money I mean yesterday Patti they did it with their lawyers with the first one, I wouldn't know anything like, I'll take whatever he was doing, be like me now, it's not like we just started, so yeah, no, no, I'm not going to say, hey, I need more money or I.

I'm not coming back, let's figure it out. I mean, they could try, but I say do that when the show is like pop pop pop pop but we're getting stuck in your head. Do you have a number of seasons that you watch this yeah, really humming hmm I don't want to say no, I can't give any feeling, no. I think there is a finite story to tell and I love as I hate when things drag on. I simply love. a good beginning, middle and end and that's what I want to do with this show, but if you do it, it'll be like the end of the water black girl thing, all together, uh, I mean, the

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black girl is the expensive and safe as a project, you know, I think as I grow I want to tell different stories and I want to produce stories of other people that I identify with, so I feel like it's okay, that things have a beginning and an end and you know, I always feel like I always identify laughs Rebecca always identifies as insecure in some elements of my life, but there are other stories and I want to tell them and I would just like that to stand alone and be good instead of like oh it's 2014 and Billy isn't .

You mm-hmm and then in your book you talk about the hierarchy of hair, yeah, like you put it in that room, I settled in the next row, it's a hair that goes on my head, yeah, hahaha, like oh, Damn, no that's not true, yeah, hate. I love my natural hair, it's just that for a while I was struggling with how I wear my hair like no one else wears their hair like this this way, it's all about, you know, wheezing or relaxing. hair and all that is fine but my hair personally can't handle that like when I tried to firm it up and relax it I begged my mom to let me do it and she was like your hair can't handle it tell me and I was like no but everyone else's schools took it like just let me do it and then of course my hair fell out she said I told her bald ass that was enough done that and half the time changed , now everyone celebrates the natural non-permanence. no weave, it's such a big thing right now, especially in the hair care industry, everyone caters to that natural thing here and they're like, I love Easter easier, I think it happens in cycles, you know, I think we pray constantly like wait a minute, obviously in the 70s Natural thing here was like a huge element and it was about black power and embracing it and I think now I think people are very open to it, but it's not, it's not at the expense of relaxing your hair or whatever. more you can do to your hair I think it's like now, this is a new way to use it and you can celebrate it and it's been around forever, people have been doing it forever, but it's cool that it's celebrated the way it's celebrated. . without belittling how you all were us how we can all wear any style we want right now that if you are dating someone they get angry when you tweet pictures of yourself as if no one is in a relationship she said it's because I have she said: I haven't said anything, nothing that I need a butt, okay, the legend told him and we had coffee together, mother, he got upset and tried our photos with idris elba and said: hey, no one gets upset about anything I do because you knowthat what I do is just things, they hacked me.

I don't have it very good, no, I mean, I'll take it if you find someone attractive like you, I say it and actually, one minute insecure, no pun intended, men are very insecure, but I tend to . To deal with, you know, men who tend to be confident, would you be mad if your man posted a woman crush on someone else's Wednesday? Yes, I'll suck it. No, no, no, I don't care, actually, yes. I don't know, I've never been analyzed, yeah, the women's question is like shooting a real shot, it's just posting someone about you, Amaya too, and it's like I'm literally saying this person is the judge of I'm not trying to do it. shoot my shot I'm not going to do anything because every reputation is a cheater my character has a reputation everything was so the matrix is ​​a cheater even in our book she talks about it like um that was a pat, it was old, it wasn't approved a very specific period of time yes, yes, you know, friend G, what does Daniel mention again?

I know okay please say automations no I'm not a cheater oh please well I'm so excited for insecure to come back and celebrate you I love it. the shot was told to me before coming here. I love that you don't try to act like you're perfect. We have everything together. You've really brought it to the forefront because I feel like a lot of times with black women we have to try. to give off this image of "okay, I've got it all together, we're holding it down but we're falling perfectly, you just don't bring it to anyone, is it okay to be

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because I have all kinds of awkward situations in my entire life, so it's pleasant?" feeling like they are just someone else who is successful at being awkward.

Thanks, Gina, again, man, everything is ugly, she's why I was John Table and you know, having the opportunity to work with her for a couple of years and she's just one. Very good, he said, he walked on the plane and saw you, he said, what's going on, because I had to repeat it, I was like a good dog in the scenes, you know, I'm saying what's going on, in fact, I didn't have the same thing, but I thank you for saying that, thank you for your support as always to show them that they have been so amazing.

I told her the last time I was here and I was too shy to tell her, but I thought you weren't at the

strip

club

and I was so impressed because you guys were like you were dropping one on her, well, she, well, she wasn't, I wasn't working, I was the Performers Club, yes, it was my first

strip

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outside of Los Angeles because I've been, it's not the first female strip club, it was in Miami, the answers were there that night I Rico laughs Rico love I don't know where we were in the office or where we added um boobs I don't know what it was I definitely wasn't drunk no oh I went first of all I went there Oh someone else they brought me there I was just with the group of girls because it was someone's birthday and she wanted to go to the strip club where are you darlings?

I was about to turn 20 because I was an idiot, I was an idiot, I was ready, I was very willing and I was taking it back up and then getting pulled over and over again because I was like she didn't even see me successful because this is $20 to verify me, they saw he did it at Sylvania banks and then I went back to the ATM. I was very impressed. I spent. I mean it probably felt like $500 a night, it wasn't why don't you change, you know good, great, I don't know why, I think I was really drunk too, it was like it was too much of a line to make me sick. get the change and I was also waiting a little in line to get the change.

I did it wrong, you know, when was this Issa Rae, awkward black girl, you too, but unsure if this is right before and sure, it was like me, it was the The weekend was a riot weekend and I It was surprising that they picked us up for the series. Open the zoo for the first season. That would be like a scream in the club, but no, no, not at all, not at all, but I was excited to see. See you there and I thought, really, how did he give us tackle lines to go? You know you were busy my guys fly but it was good that's awesome yeah we had minimal question.

Do you think cheating is ever justifiable? No I dont think so. I think so, I don't think so, I think you just have to communicate, want a partner in everything because I think it's unfair not to tell your partner like, hey, I'm about to be on the street, so I want to end your relationship with so no, it's never available thanks for speaking up you kind of don't use a feature. I heard that if you cheat and the person finds out you shouldn't tell them, I mean if they don't, because some people do it to I heard that tune and they say that's all it does, yeah, they say it's selfish to say yes you cheat and they won't catch you, don't say it because all it does is make the other person feel terrible and alleviates your own guilt, yeah I always ask if people want to know like you know man.

I feel like men don't want to know, I don't want to know, they just want to exist and know that this relationship is perfect and moving. Oh, that's it, I always want to like, I always want to know, I want to know everything, I feel like honesty turns me on, I love knowing everything you know is happening beforehand, your thoughts, your feelings, what not. I don't like the relationship like that I like how I live I thought about communication and I feel like I need mystery bait all you have to do if you get caught cheating to tell the truth okay man I read it she was so wet okay and not in that, yes, now I'm open with the best t-shirt of you hanging, not because it was closed with the best flasher shahnameh, would you like us to move on with this G?

I don't need you to cry for the fourth episode hey auntie be careful on the couch crying sure I get it just watch the first episode and you'll see what happens I can't wait what is it I played the third man it's a black woman strong, we can. I know I'm right, okay, oh yes, yes, yes, no III, ladies and gentlemen, Hank Cigars Club, good morning.