How Does Shmee150 Decide Which Cars To Buy? [S4, E22]May 30, 2021
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shmee150he's here yes hello hello sorry to disappoint you tony no no no well I constantly disappoint tony so welcome to the club thank you so much for coming and joining us here on the podcast You're our first guest I think in 2021 , we may have had Paul Wallace at one point, but it's easy to forget Paul, honestly, so he's not really a guest, he's not very good, let's pretend you're our first guest, he lives here, yeah, right? where you live?
He lives here, yeah, he has a really nice apartment, I'll let you know he has a really nice apartment, actually, yeah, the live-in guest, the live-in guest, he's our resource basically when there's no one else free, we call pull -oops because he never
does. anything but clarify because since you just got back from the United States, I mean literally, I think online yesterday, right or something, yeah, something like that, yeah, something like that, it's a little confusing, but you've already done the various quarantines and things like that you need. what to do so I can stay home an unlimited number of tests basically uh the isolation test to release we're all good a lot of negative tests traveling has been a headache or actually a little bit of relief somewhere like do you feel like?
I've escaped some of the chaos, but I actually quite enjoyed the last 12 months of not being on a plane every second or third day for the 12 months before everything changed was too much for me because you've been on long walks. In certain countries, I spent an extended period in Germany for the rest of 2020 and so far I started this entire year in the US. And as I drove from place to place I feel like you have more control over what you are doing and less of that last minute pressure to rush to an airport and check bags and deal with all the fuss of travel and actually, you know what I mean?
I'm not a big YouTube watcher or a stats guy, but you've done the right thing by going to America because what else would you do in this country? Good in your pants like Paul. This is turning into a Paul Wallace bashing episode. It was not intentional. I left the UK and then the UK
decided to block. So it's kind of like, well, I'm not going back. I've invested a lot of money to get a work visa for the US, so I said, "Okay, I'll go, I'll go to work." in the US, yeah, fair, that's exactly it, I think if I mean I'm very funny, I never told you this, but over Christmas when things looked like they were going to lock down, I was looking at Dubai and everything the social world. the media was going oh maybe I should go shopping for a couple of weeks just stock up on some content before coming back and I was going back and forth to do it my family said well what if you don't say well if I don't go.
Shmee, I think the next day you'll post a story like you're going to Dubai? Oh damn, I mean you can be sure I was there before I said I knew you didn't go to the bar and come back. in December, yes, before Christmas, I spent Christmas there just before, yes, but just before, because just before the UK closed up shop, basically, oh yes, I had left and the plan was to return to the UK , but then of course we were in Dubai when the UK
decided to close and at that point it was like, now we're out of the US travel ban,
whichprohibits you from entering the US if you've been in Europe, yes, in the previous 14 days, well, he was kind.
Well I'm in Dubai, yeah I can go to America, so I bought a one-way flight from Dubai to Chicago, it was a 15 hour flight, it wasn't very fun, but then it was like, yeah, let's stay here and I think there are a lot of people who maybe didn't understand at the time, since you were obviously following, since you always make every letter yes, absolutely by the way, that's all super confusing because there's a timeline element to this, now the rules change. in a matter of days, within weeks, so what was relevant at the time I filmed it could be different at the time I posted it and that's what's stupidly confusing, of course, and you know, I think it was difficult for The people you know, I mean, it's been really boring here.
I'll be honest over the last three months or so, so it was easy to look at someone who looked like maybe he hadn't been around to govern, but you know, he basically did something that everyone wanted not to do. helped by the articles in the daily mail about influencers partying, oh my god, I mean that's obviously not my thing, all I'm interested in is filming a car and then ordering delivery or uber eats my computer laptop. I've been in church with you enough to know that it wasn't going to be glamorous but it was going to be content that we wanted to see such fair play for you.
Well, yeah, thanks for joining us, let's do a little bit. a little talk we'll understand, we have a little bit of car news, nothing like that, major, Tony has inside information on something very interesting that we are going to discuss, but we actually want to get back to something we discussed. last week, so last week we did some kind of episode talking about youtuber car collections, they mentioned you Tony was quite nice, I didn't understand you very well, I don't thank you, no, it's not that bad, you were actually good. you were rude to other people you weren't that rude in general that wasn't that rude no no but we were talking about whether nowadays this type of car collecting in general but collecting cars for youtube
doesit still make sense?
How does it work? What are the potential benefits and losses? And how outside of YouTube maybe the culture of car collecting is changing. That will be the main topic we will return to. Now we have to talk. about a car that Tony almost ordered or made or didn't make I don't know, I really don't know exactly Jumeirah Tim, you recently tried it, I dare pre-production prototype, you know the show car, the original. show the car, so it's not exactly a full production spec, just a mild electric, we were around a parking lot, you know, it's not, it's not a full car, so talk to us because we've been a bit dismissive about he, I think, in the last few months, when you're in it when you're driving in it and you're sitting in it, it's impressive, it's a cool concept from a 40 to a hypercar, it's something completely unique, right?
I always find it fascinating, if you talk. about the world of hypercars if you go back about 10 years if you wanted to spend over a million pounds on a car you could buy a bugatti veyron made if you want to spend over a million pounds now you don't even have to go any further than every company to find multiple aston martin valkyrie valhalla several different zagatos and uh continuation models mclaren elva speedtell know it's crazy how this world has completely exploded i haven't even mentioned bugatti of course in share on the sport bag share on 300 more devo chantel dietschy I love the noise you make.
I don't know what those are. Yes. This is it. This is my. I guess my part of this world is full of cars, but now you have the choice of about £40 million different ones. besides the cars, um, it's completely crazy, but a lot of them effectively do the same thing that Jamira sits completely in her own place, no one else does a super luxury or something, or you know, super, I don't know what to call it hyper . It's like a four seat car, it's not something that's just for the race track for now, for now, for now, for sure, so it's almost like the first hyper SUV, if Bentayga was a kickoff, maybe it was a kick-off for this high-end super luxurious SUV.
Yes, maybe your mirror is the first to turn on the hyper hyper sedan or the hyper highlighter more than two seats, well, more than two seats, the speed says t-50, etc., etc., but four seats at least, um so I think it's pretty good, but historically. If you look at any brand, you know Ferrari and their four-seaters, Aston Bentley, four-seater cars fall off a cliff in terms of values. And you know I have no idea what a Koenigsegg of this type will do in the future. but you have to be aware of that side of things: these are cars that, if used, driven and are great to buy if you intend to keep them, use them and operate them, I don't know, but as The result is a sign question mark because we also talked about the fact that I think you know Kern's executive client is a very specific person right now, maybe this will help broaden his client base and I definitely know that a lot of people who have that amount of money are intrigued by the fact that you could have a four seater hypercar, but it feels like that, yes, kerning owners are currently running out buyers, if that makes sense, yes, too many, they are winning, how many are they making 300 cars and from what I understand many of the customers are new customers.
I know several people who don't own a current executive who have ordered a Jumeirah, okay,
whichis really cool and if I mean, I don't know about you. I have met Christian von Koenigsegg, but the man is a genius, everyone who works at that company is incredibly knowledgeable and you feel that passion if you ever meet them or are at the show booths or if you go to the factory and angle home in Sweden, it's amazing to spend time with them because I've never seen anything like that in terms of the way they approach things and the way everyone is so connected and thinking about the future and you look at the technology on the Jumeirah, two-engine liters and three cylinders, it is not Ferrari, although it is a classic little comment from Tony, but surely this is also the future of our supercars or our hypercars, even if you look at the technology of F1, which obviously has smaller combustion engines with you know, hybrid technology or e-fuels or whatever it is, it's surely the future where we'll end up instead of these big, cool v12s that we know they're potentially going to give us.
I honestly think this may not be how everyone currently thinks. Obviously, there's a big push right now from governments around the world. It's been a while since you could use a diesel, I think we still have to find out what's next and I hope that whatever it is will allow us, you know, Porsche with their synthetic fuels for example, I hope that whatever it will allow us continue running V12 engines during our weekend. fun, while our normal daily cars can be ev when appropriate, yeah that makes sense doesn't it? If you have 80 electric cars and you leave us the 20 of gasoline to drive on the weekends, it would be more than I'm happy to drive an electric car every day if I can charge it in three minutes because that's how long it takes me to fill up my car.
It's a quick fill. You can do it in three minutes. I've seen him at a gas station. station buys a bar of chocolate he is chatting with the bird behind the cover I have three minutes I have done time busy man I am very busy okay five minutes surely seven minutes if they give you a m s because you have to wait in line for up to nine minutes if it is a pretty blonde If you're not pulling into a gas station it's probably 10 minutes from the time you arrive to the time you leave, the difference with an electric car is that you don't even have to spend those 10 minutes. just plug it in when you get home and you'll be ready for the next morning as long as your trip is relatively short, yes within 175 200 250 miles whatever that is but even if your trip is 250 miles just stop at somewhere and get a McDonald's. or something like that and it only takes 20 minutes because I tell you what I did.
I've ridden over 300 miles today. Well done on the van, congratulations, it would have taken me two more hours in an electric vehicle. You can't go that fast either. No, yeah, you can fast, let's get that out of the way, but no, I know this is an ongoing discussion that we have almost every week right now on the podcast and you're incredibly hip or at least with our thinking what it is, you know. , we don't believe that the current situation, this strong push towards electric vehicles is the final solution, it doesn't make sense globally, you know there are places all over the world, likethen selling it for 20 or 30 big profits pretty easily, like it was a done deal, I feel like a lot of people.
They came into the game because they thought they could take advantage of these bubbles or these types of values with what we do. Inherently, I don't know how I'm going to try and say this, but essentially you have to buy cars to get the right content. There must be cars you go. I'm just buying them because I think I can make money off the content and so if you lose a bunch of money who cares because I hope I made more, I guess so, at what point? Do you look at a car and go for the m3?
I'm just going to use an example. How much do you have to be aware of how much you could lose? Does that change your mindset about how much content you could create with it in each car? What I buy is a kind of calculation that includes the business element in terms of what I'm going to film with this car, what the story is, what videos I'm going to make, who I might work with, what doors will open. You know, here's a direct example. the mclarens, if i buy a 765 lte, it's a lot of money to spend to not have more audience than my center, interesting for example, while m3 i currently don't have a bmw, so it is very valuable to have a bmw in the garage to those kinds of events and activities and things and what that might allow me to do about it, so there's always the video angle, but there's also of course the personal angle, you know what car I want and there might be something in the garage that right now it's probably about to be published oh and this is a car this is a car that's probably a little less than one I've been thinking about oh this will do well online because it won't be good but it's a car that It's emotional, yes, it's a car I wanted.
Do you buy cars for YouTube or because you want them? It's a complete mix. There are certainly cars that I have bought and am buying for YouTube and you know. The funniest example of this I can give you is my first AMG GTR. I ordered the first amg gtr before the gtr was revealed so I guess it would be the gtr that it was and actually a lot of people thought it would be the black series at the time um and I ordered that thinking I needed to have a mercedes in the garage. I hadn't had an amg before so I wanted to make those videos so I actually ordered that car, I have no idea if I was going to like it.
I loved the sls at the time for making videos, it just so happens that I later fell in love with it and okay, 55, so taking out the youtuber side, I guess for two seconds we think about that today, you know. all the cars are going to lose money now because yeah, that's what it's like it's a different world right, I get so many direct messages asking me, you know, I have a spot on this car, am I going to make money on it? and from people who are in the position to buy cars like a gt black series sto for example, but i can't understand how people can still think that a car like a gt black series or a sto is going to make money, yes no They will, they will lose, as I am well aware. that I will receive these two cars this year gt black series quite soon and the sto, I think that in the third or fourth quarter both will accumulate 100 thousand dollars in two years, but it is also comforting to know of an owner from the It is very important see them because it's my job, obviously, over the years and certainly recently, and I think it's been driven by social media and you people really think that they can get in and out of these cars for free because unfortunately and No , you two, actually some youtubers portray online that they drive these cars for free and fool people and that has never been the case.
We all know there was a period, there was a really small period where you know well. I think in many cases, if you're the first to receive something and you release it in two months, yes, if you have a GT Black Series in your garage now while supply is very low, yes, and you want to sell it. You could probably get 50 grand more, you'll get some money, that same car in six months is not worth any more, no, that's right, yes, yes, but what I'm saying is that that period of time was longer than a few years ago. years.
Wasn't it two months like, look, look, um purple mantis? For a flash, there was a good six, eight, ten months where there were surpluses and then all of a sudden people were ordering them and putting them online and then it showed up. an oversubscription of cars and then they start doing that because that's really what happens, um, even like the normal 488s in 1617, they were 20 thousand dollars more than the list, the Ferrari dealers send them for, oh, that's it an ordinary car, but it definitely disappeared. true, but it's comforting to hear from an owner who buys cars because we know that many of them again, I'm not researching youtubers in general, but we do know that some youtubers buy cars to think that they are going to make money with them or they are doing orders because they are going to make money on them and it's nice to know that you've never done that and you don't do it with cars that you probably could have made money on if you had sold them very quickly.
I never did, so I mean ten thousand miles with them. Instead, I can name specific examples. My 675 liter Spider when I got it, I had a six figure offer on whatever. Yes. On it and I turned it off and I kind of regret that now, but no, I bought the mold to buy and obviously my Ford GT, if it hadn't used daylight, I probably could have sold it for stupid money. Yeah, two years ago, so moving forward, I mean you mentioned that you're about to reveal a car, which we're not going to, we're not going to push you, but now we're going to push it.
I knew Jenny would say that your mentality is changing at all. Because we sit here week after week and glorify the 50k mark right now, we love how many cars you can get new and used that a little more affordable way. I'm also a big modern classicist. fan, so all my attention goes to the cars you already know, now kind of bad late, bad early and that's what I'm obsessed with from your point of view, someone who has always bought the latest and greatest, now you're Thinking a little differently about who you are? buying, so i recently made a video driving the alexis lfa which has been one of my favorite cars for a long time in which i talked about how i would love to have one but i'm not going to put it first because they are significantly more expensive. than I could have bought one five years ago and I personally feel like I missed the boat.
You know, I don't want to pay double now what I could have had not long ago and could never live off. with myself doing it, you know, I don't know, maybe they keep going up and up and up and then that's really bad for me or maybe one day I'll be in a position where that makes less of a difference, but the other thing is that I I said directly in the video is that at the end of the day, if I buy an older car, there are fewer YouTube stories about it and that has an impact.
You know, something like my SLS Black series. I made a whole plan. I wanted an sls for years and years and there was no secret about it. I made a whole plan on how I was going to repaint it, rentec, I did everything with it, so it was like having a new car because I made it mine. and it had a whole host of content and stuff, so it adds to that element and I think I have a lot of cars. I would love the Lfa Carrera GT for example, but all of these cars have gone up in price so far.
You know, I remember being offered a Cgt for a little over 200 grand and I remember Ifá for about 200 grand and it's like I couldn't afford triple those figures now I can, I mean in retrospect it's a big deal. thing and Tony will tell you that karate should still be one. It's worth 200 grand, but no, I won't, no, I won't, it's just that some of the strange figures that are quoted are what they're going to be, I think they're unrealistic to be honest, and it's strange to hear them both talk about values and prices. And there's a little trade-off for you guys: if you buy an older car, especially because you buy modern stuff, it doesn't work as well online, but the car loses less money, but if you buy a modern car. you lose more money but it's more prominent online so it's a balancing act in terms of where to go in the market and I know the two are connected so if you look at our business we do quite a bit.
Quite the opposite, where right now at least I'm buying old and junk stuff, yeah, while Tim you tend to buy a lot of new stuff. There is something? The first thing I'll ask is if you've been tempted by something I'm going to do. I mean man, I know you had your mini and I know you've dabbled in sls blackstone, but like something I'm going to say before 2000 and secondly, there was something you bought expecting to fly and it did. or you were hoping to keep your money better and it wasn't that interesting, so first question, anything pre-2000, there's something very firmly on my radar, significantly older, it's actually okay, it's not too expensive, so it's okay , this is one of those when I have the space for it in my garage that's the time to do it so it's not a Mercedes-Benz um, the other part of the question is will things fly.
I don't think I've ever bought a car with the intention of making it soar in value. What's happening? your youtube views i have certainly bought cars with the expectation that their value their youtube views would fly and the biggest surprise for me but i think i know the answer it's probably a surprise the yaris gi is fine my audience seems to have . Obviously I can't speak for everyone, very little interest in touring and I think it's because it's not available in the US because we're all a big part of my audience and everyone has one, yes, but that happened with the supra in our world where you know when the super came out you could say that everyone had my super videos flying everywhere but all of everyone's super videos I think flew at that time it was one of those cars do you remember when I filmed the irs I said I thought strangely?
It was going to be like the a110 the alpine well I think all the journalists were going to say how amazing it was, they all said it's brilliant but people would really care, they would go buy it and people would really care so I think What's double this is that it's such an affordable car and everyone who owns one creates content with it, so it's almost like a balance: there are tons of videos about it regarding interest, while obviously things like supercar have a lot of interest, but There's not much content, sure, I haven't driven the girl much yet, so I admit, I'm looking forward to hitting some country roads and starting to get a feel for what it's all about, but that was certainly a bit.
It was a little surprising in terms of audience interest because it seemed like everyone around us is excited about this car, of course you need boxes for each type of car, uh, each box for one type of car, but like I said, when I uploaded it, I was very surprised. which was not, almost a long time ago I suspected or saw that there was something like when there was so much noise and so much positivity that sometimes he almost lost a little of his excitement and was so enthusiastic about that carl, even from the first taunts and the first Rumors, this will be my dream car and yes it is brilliant, but as I think everyone has talked about how brilliant it is, after a while you are a bit. like when you haven't seen a movie like game of thrones and you haven't seen game of thrones have you seen game of thrones because no, no, but because this is exactly my example because it's game of thrones and everyone will tell you that it's the best television series of all time, you'll probably never sit down to watch it because you feel like the moment has passed and everyone says it was so good, so good, I don't know, I think there's something there. which is a little more different or quirky, it sounds like fiesta st little oh, it's so good, it's so good and in fact I think there would be almost strangely more interest in something like that nowadays than in a gi bug because everyone knows that they put it what the interesting story is, it's really good, yes, but there's nothing more to say, it's really very good, while, on the other hand, something completely different, everything I do, talking about my sto, flies, everything is interesting, yes, like just a lamborghini in general, you know if you say yes. put a lamborghini on instagram or you see one on instagram and the likes you put on youtube as if it were that type of brand, right?
You know what I mean? It just attracts attention and period, I think it's always, you know, always a winner. if you can put them in a title, it's always a winner, um, okay, I guess how we round this up. I wanted to ask you if there was a car you missed that you regret, but I feel like it's a race. You kind of mentioned it a little bit, yeah, I sure miss shopping, so at this point, how big is the collection? I guess because I have a feeling that I know you say other things become emotions and blah blah, but every time I've talked about any car, you've taken it back to the content, I don't know if you've noticed that I'm not sure that it's a big part, even even the sls, I completely accept it, um, it's no secret that if I didn't run the shmi150 youtube channel and if I hadn't had this path and I still had the job that I had in an office before, I could have a nice carBecause I'm a car guy, I'd probably own one.
Imagine a 765lt would be what I just bought and maybe it would also have a lusso, but it certainly wouldn't have the cars I have or it just wouldn't be like that, do you think you've almost forced it? You keep buying as if you were almost like an addict. The feeling is that, of course, I love it, but it's also interesting. We've talked about buying a new car, as if it were an Australian dump. It's exciting, a great adrenaline rush, yes, but so is your channel. Now, because you're always buying or speculating on the latest and greatest cars, a UI isn't in those kinds of routines, it's a really strange way to talk about it, but if you watch the channels with big collections, you know here at the UK, jwwtgate on the other hand, you have um adam alzad and uh strad man, maybe somehow you know that there are those kinds of things where you have to move on, like where it ends, of course it does, for Of course yes.
I do it and I feel like you know you're really lucky to be able to say, hey, I'd like to do that and buy that car knowing that, hey, my business can grow from it, you know, it's kind of surreal and pretty unique from a global perspective. . being in that position and that certainly distorts decisions for sure, like there's no way for you to know that this year I'm probably going to get seven or eight cars this year, there's no way, no way I would do that, on the other hand, Tony On the world outside of YouTube, would you say that many other collectors are actually downsizing due to global situations?
Yeah, well, Tim already said that he doesn't buy cars. Just so you know, there's a big reason he buys cars because it's his business, it's on a conveyor belt, you know, you, he keeps his business going, that's why You have to, most people who are rich and who have a lot of money have a lot of money for a reason in the general public, I mean, and they don't like to lose a hundred thousand and it doesn't matter how much money you have, most of people work very hard to get that money. and they don't like losing that kind of money, so yeah, you know, a lot of my friends over the years, it's not like they can't afford it, you know?
And there are a lot of people who think that the more cars you have means that it means you have a lot of money it doesn't mean anything at all I don't like losing 100 on the card by the way no no I know, but what I'm saying is that's part of Your job is the reason you do it. Some of these people are very rich and they don't want to spend that money and they don't anymore, so they do it. They've definitely been in your collections and you have one or two or none, so I think it's interesting to see that on YouTube it's still a very strong formula.
You know, building a collection with multiple cars is still important. interest to the audience, but on the other hand, maybe there is a movement right now and I'm sure it will change and pick up as the world changes over the next three five years, but yes, I and other collectors have noticed it On Instagram. sometimes they are downsizing, but then of course you went to visit a triple f collection. I think so, they will be the opposite of the disadvantages of the opposite, so it is difficult to read. I think you know we often sit here just speculating and arguing about the supercar world, the world of car collecting, and I think it's been very interesting to have you here and to have someone that you know in that combination of collecting YouTube and buying and selling. the latest and the greatest, and I think you know fundamentally that there is no It's kind of a rule or rhythm, but it seems like the cars don't hold up or make great strides, but there are still cool cars to buy and yeah, fun and I think there's a lot of people too.
I know you don't like it, but you influence a lot of people and I think what you do is look at them and look at them and look at all the YouTubers and they think they have good, normal jobs. Jobs but normal jobs. I have a few pounds. I'm going to have five or six cars, but it's not what you know and then they go to work and get under your desk. They do a job under a desk like what you said if If you had done a normal desk job, you would have two cars, but these guys have aspirations thanks to YouTube and thanks to social media.
I have a few pounds. I can do it. Keep going, yeah, yeah, and then they start a YouTube channel in three months. Yeah, but they don't often understand the mechanics behind YouTube and how it works and how you guys get paid and how you get compensated for things and things like that, they just think you're buying a car, you're selling it. I can do that and I will win. They don't lose the number, they don't understand it, you know what I mean? So the issue of losing money on a car, my attitude is effectively, if I know a car is going to lose a lot, I go in with the intention of keeping it.
So the GT Black series I'm not going to sell the sdo, I have no intention of selling it because if I was sitting here thinking, I'm going to use it for a year and then sell it for 75,000 less than what I bought it for. I wouldn't buy it, the 675 is a very good example, well, you left it there and yes, when it started to go down, I said: yes, I'll keep it, yes, I enjoy it and I love it. do more things with it, yes, because he runs it like a business and writes about it every year.
I know a lot of people, you wouldn't know by what right they write it every year and over the course of the period of time. The longer you have the car, the less you'll lose each year, so sure enough there we go, look, it's been fascinating having you here. Thank you very much for coming and joining us. It's a pleasure, even if you're fine, you'll probably recover from your jet lag haven. I don't really get the jelly, not even, oh, not too many problems, even without traveling much, the last 12 months, the jet lag, aren't you constantly in a strange moment, like in your own time?
You're always tired, it makes no difference, I'll try it. shm, no, that's not what he meant, but of course, if you want to follow any of Tim's adventures, he's actually got 150 almost everywhere, so anyway, you know, literally at Sainsbury's. It screams shoot 150. I wouldn't do that, yeah I made it start and now I regret it. uh if you want to follow Tony, he's at Tony Graham's car sales. I'm in the scene through the glass, if you want to try how wonderful it looks through. coffee pearl glass mix these are actually empty bags sorry I just ruined the illusion head over to Drinkperla.com stg and we'll be back with you next week thanks for tuning in bye see you around.
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