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Or not, Luciano Arruga was detained, tortured and disappeared by the Buenos Aires police on January 31, 2009 in the district of the massacre. He was 16 years old and his family knew that police officers had tried to recruit him to rob in liberated areas. Luciano refused and lived. harassed by the police until his disappearance, luciano took the cap for defending his dignity because luciano did not want to steal for the police, few cases of kids like luciano become publicly visible, it was an achievement of his sister

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and a tight group of family and friends, a fight that at the same time demanded justice had to face a racist and stigmatizing social and media gaze for this is to continue demanding the truth both for all those disappeared during the last genocide and for all those disappeared from the different constitutional governments.

What happened with Luciano Arruga highlighted the connections between criminal networks and security forces and was able to make many people understand that when you think about security policies, the police are part of the problem. What's wrong with you in a big way? Enrique Vera, Vanessa's fight and The collective learning of Luciano's family and friends is a legacy that today embraces other victims of police violence from the comrade struggle and ah I like to say that you have to avoid the territories to be able to count them, the usual inhabitants, you were born in a neighborhood. of the conurbano do you work today in neighborhoods in towns of greater buenos aires if we think about 15 or 20 years ago what do you see not with the advance of criminal organizations with new protections and vulnerabilities for the kids not what do you see in your daily life Well, it is a complex question, but one of the things I can say with certainty is that all the workers, as well as the activists who are having some function with children and adolescents in the most humble neighborhoods, are fighting against violence. and to the different criminal organizations to our boys and girls we try to generate alternatives so that they do not end up in a consumption problem and we try to ensure that our young women do not end up kidnapped by trafficking networks that also operate in the neighborhoods that dispute, of course, many times also It also puts those of us who are walking, transiting, interacting with the young people of those neighborhoods at risk and if reality ends up showing all of us who are there that violence is greater than the forms of violence that cross the lives of Our children and adolescents are diverse and given that, some of us find ourselves fighting and with a lack of presence on the part of the different state institutions that is alarming.

It seems to me that children and adolescents are in an emergency situation that, as Society, we have to start taking responsibility for this, something is happening between everyone, whether they are workers in the militant neighborhoods, in the working neighborhoods, in the state institutions, we have to start looking for a point of agreement to start showing this that is real. What is happening is that where the state is not present and drug trafficking advances through its networks, criminal networks advance, which of course are also controlled and managed by police officials, protected at the same time by a judicial system and a political system by a system in its group that has learned how to manage politically and profit from poverty the photo that I am going to show you now has to do with a girl the photo is this nothing takes you that photo vanessa chiquilina there is no my grandmother very herrera very feisty my grandmother is look in love is the woman to whom I owe what I am as a human being as a woman as a mother it is in my neighborhood where I grew up where I began to see the first forms of violence that marked and crossed my life it is also the place where I was able to discover the most beautiful acts of solidarity and that was not my grandmother, her sacrifice, my good neighborhood, they were good at transforming, forming October 12, it is a very small neighborhood of one block and the truth is that today it is already a neighborhood that has grown a lot above all upwards with very hard-working people, my neighborhood was surrounded by a more residential area and sectors more linked to the middle class and well, in that neighborhood I grew up with a beautiful square on the side of the neighborhood where I spent much of my time playing vanessa se His gesture relaxes and you can sense the tenderness that comes from the memory of his childhood here in this square in the 12 de Octubre neighborhood.

He played with Luciano. Vanessa grew up a few blocks from here with her grandmother, very close to the house where her mother and her children lived. three brothers, when Luciano disappeared, Vanessa was 26 years old and was studying sociology at the University of Buenos Aires. I want to show you two more photos that continue to establish us in our childhoods. In this case, they are your brothers. There is Luciano, who shared, despite the age difference, experiences that They allowed them to have a lot of empathy, too. Not in that photo is my happy old Monica, my brother Luciano with some glasses that were mine, where my brother Mauro and my brother Sebastian are already sitting.

This was my room precisely in my grandmother's house here. They were there at a time who came to visit us in their John Lennon advice glasses and their river t-shirt as appropriate happy children also gone through painful stories that have to do with the lack of rights we are a whole family that has cost everything in life and no one gave us anything, quite the contrary, they have taken it upon themselves to steal a lot from us and above all this very small family, what they have had are very brave women, women who, with everything and their difficulties, knew how to occupy those spaces, that I am not busy that They have decided not to occupy even the Bayonés who were also responsible for accompanying this process, the child, my brothers', my mother's, my grandmother's, all the women in the family, and those who are here, here is a second photo, we tell a little about the photo that photo is tremendous.

I would like this photo to be reproduced in the lives of a lot of children and I would like that when those children become adults they can also continue to maintain that smile and not have their lives cut short like they cut it off that beautiful child who He is there at the age of 16 and there I remember him and we remember him with deep affection and he knows that we have put a lot of time and a lot of energy into him to be able to ensure that he could rest in peace and feel that something had been done of justice for so much pain that he had to go through and ah well these photos are two this is Luciano's first smile well this form of the photos that was used to search for him these are if it had to do more with the current light with the features that perhaps at that moment we most needed them to stand out because they had to do with his choices at that moment in his life and his orbit his soccer jerseys this is one of the most current photos of him if this photo came out others also came out that in where they were seen in the light with their white overalls, I think it is the other one, if there are 22 images that can also be analyzed a lot, each of these photos impacts society in a different way, it is not the same to show this society of hypocrites, a boy with a duster must show these hypocritical societies a kid with a cap and a soccer jersey, what is that like because our kids from the neighborhoods who decide to wear their cap, their sports clothes, are possible suspects, they are the closest prototype to the figure that is has installed in our country and that talks about a supposed kid who is crazy and the way of dressing of many of the kids in our neighborhoods makes a neighbor alarmed that a neighbor runs off the sidewalk that a neighbor Neighbor, call 911 if the kid is near your house walking around or sitting on the curb.

It is a construction that positions another person as dangerous and that other dangerous person is the one we are going to unload all the fury and frustration of this society on. The kid with a duster on a newspaper cover would probably look better, be more accepted in the eyes of those who have a high degree of discrimination, would be a good victim in quotes, surely the report of a missing kid in the hands of the security forces would be more accepted. If we show the photo of the boy with the overalls, we will show the photo of the private person with the cap because after I could say that my brother is missing by the police and I put that cap, the number of assumptions that the other can formulate are varied. and one will surely talk about him, something he will have done, he will be taking drugs out there, he will come back because you say that he will have done something, which is a phrase that summarizes civil complicity with the dictatorship, it is a phrase that is valid today because if this need to To install in society the figure of a person who alerts us to a dangerous other at a time when this tremendous genocide occurred.

This dangerous figure was represented by the organized young militants with ideas of social, political, economic change. Today, it is another danger, only the He represents the figure of the kid from the humble neighborhood and in front of that good guy he can also be a representative of the Mapuche community and that is where the numbers of people locked up begin to appear, the number of people killed by easy triggers, the number of missing and tortured people. within institutions of confinement as well and these logics are very similar and these practices are very similar to those that have been carried out during the last genocide.

I did it very well Esteban Rodríguez says that a researcher from the University of Quilmes says that not only does he sign up. with a gun and you can point it with the words black, let him rot in prison, not all of them are lazy, they don't want to work, not a set of violence that hurts and kills and that is repeated daily, is present at every moment, passes through us in everything. moment and we live in a moment in which the media and its propaganda and its messages of hate occupy an important space and although it may seem that this is not pure ideology and what they are trying to do is for a single thought to dominate and that thought that is dominating, unfortunately, it is a thought very linked to these ideas that we mentioned that can be xenophobic, discriminatory and in short a lot of other characteristics that we can mention, well, these stigmas that we are talking about were the ones that also crossed the life of Luciano and the disappearance of Luciano I would like you to tell me, Vanessa, what the conversation was like.

Go back to that moment where you spoke with Luciano or Luciano decided to tell you what was happening with the police. Well, I had already been accompanying my brother in different very violent situations that involved the police in the area. from Lomas del Mirador, this is in the slaughter party, Luciano informed my mother and me that there was a group of police officers who were sending kids from the neighborhoods of the 2 de Octubre neighborhood to rob them, that these people had offered him to go out. steal for them, what he tells me immediately is that he had refused to carry out this practice and well, from that moment on he began to accompany Luciano with great fear because he no longer left the October 2 neighborhood because if he did go out and they would cross him in somewhere they would stop him, they would put him against the wall, they would hit him with their itakas on his ankles while at the same time they would order him not to look at any of the policemen in the face while at the same time they would call him black or a lot of other insults with their faces. clear intention that he will react and that that will justify the arrest and I went to look for my brother many times at the police stations and when he came out he told me what they told him how they beat him I was very close to all those situations I suffered it with him and try to accompany her in the way you consider most appropriate, understanding that it was very difficult to make a report and that perhaps this report put all of us at greater risk.

The reality is that we did not make the report but one of us still did very badly in It is in this life that it is my brother who ended up being kidnapped and disappeared by the Buenos Aires police here thanks to first the police harassment and the arbitrary arrests and finally the disappearance as the last link in a chain of violence, disappearing the body to guarantee impunity, that's how it was. In the case of Luciano, the last of his arrests was in the former detachment of Lomas del Mirador four months before his disappearance. The reality is that 'Ocean was detained here since the morning, it is almost late at night in this kitchen in this place where We are here, he was beaten, he was tortured both physically and psychologically and well, it is a fact that it occurred four months before Luciano's disappearance on January 31, 2009 and this fence is part of one of the most sinister stories of this space, no, if you look here, after this place was closed as a detachment and we were able to expropriate it to turn it into a social and cultural space, other young people approached and told a story very similar to Luciano's, it's good that they were detained here, he tied them up.

Here they go to that fence, be it the handcuffs on one hand and the other the fence and that was the situation that Luciano had to live through. He denied, claiming that on September 22, 2008, when he was arrested, he spent several hours locked up in this place and tied up in that gate and my brother was afraid, my brother began to be locked up when he was free, he did not leave the neighborhood, he was afraid of meeting the police in the street. Who can doubt what happened on January 31, 2009, if one had to hear about it? mouth of a foot 16 years old everything that was happening to him I thought what an act of courage for him Luciano's was because telling himNo, as Luciano said, the power of extortion that the security force has for the kids in the neighborhoods is very high, as you value it when you think about it.

Over time, Luciano's bosom has passed. Well, I had a family with everyone and their problems with all the lack of presence on time that luciano's family could have and luciano had a family and he had a family that put a word in. I don't like to dwell too much on him not about luciano because if it had been that of illusion or if It would have been like that, I would have looked for my sister anyway, we are again the good and the bad victim. Of course, the issue is that for the relatives, our kids are not divided into good and bad between those who said yes and those who said no. like their gender in the style with them they could choose worker or we return to the same thing and the choice has to do with historical social material conditions one does not choose I mean you can choose but you can choose many things that hurt you now if you have the possibility to a dignified life guaranteed your rights that have the possibility of having tools your choices will be in accordance with your desires and your desires often have to do with positive desires when everything is in order when you grew up in a family that gave you love and support and all your needs are guaranteed and choosing is very important.

The cap march, which has been taking place for more than a decade in the province of Córdoba, is a reference for organizations that denounce trigger-happy and police harassment. The march runs through the center of the city that forbidden space where kids in caps are always suspicious communicators from different spaces come together every year to make collaborative coverage of the march and put their own voice in the public space the war march is replicated in the city from Buenos Aires - and in other parts of the country I went out and I realized that there are other mothers who are in the same situation as me and just as at one point they hugged me, they listened to me, they restrained me, I had to get the pulse from wherever it was and contain those mothers however I always say it I don't have a study what I learned I lost it it hits the bumps and I learned it in the street and Luciano once told his mother that he was going to be famous Monica remembers the anecdote while watching flamenco the flags with the face of his son, a face that still acclaims justice.

On October 17, 2014, the body of Luciano Arruga was found buried as a nn in the Chacarita cemetery. Six years had passed since his disappearance, justice has still not investigated what the circuit was. state that a body disappeared with impunity for so many years, Luciano's body was found buried as nn in the Chacarita cemetery in 2014, what interpretation could they make of what happened first, which is total sadism, it is a complete perversity, what they have done with us we had to recognize a Lucian through his bones through his marks through his tortures that is part of impunity because those bones are no longer going to speak as a body found in time could have spoken, what do you think?

What specifically happened, what we continue to report happened is that Luciano was kidnapped by the Buenos Aires police. We have reported his disappearance around 2 at night, one in the morning, Luciano appears on that expressway in General Paz at 3 in the morning. Tomorrow, let's see, it appears that it was hit by this vehicle at 3 in the morning and we have to resolve it. I don't know if it will be possible, of course, because it is very important what happened during those three hours, but the driver has been clear, the driver of the car stated that he said that He saw a kid running desperately escaping from someone's something.

A second witness from a good inheritance patrol next to the General Paz. For us, Luciano was taken to that place. For us, Luciano was forced to cross for that General Paz that ended in that accident. and with the life of Luciano, but of course we, the word traffic accident is a word that we bury at the bottom of the earth because it seems to me that traffic accident was what served him in those first hours after the remains of Luciano had appeared. to the mercenary members of the mainstream media to say after so much time and the family denouncing the repression by the police they saw that the boy had died as a result of a traffic accident just like Santiago is not safe well well the issue is that We family members are not willing to leave the last word to them and that here this does not end in a traffic accident but rather the traffic accident was one of the ways that the police had to end the life of yet another young man in our country.

We have been talking about a circuit of harassment that not just any kid suffers, but this police harassment and violence is specifically suffered by kids from popular neighborhoods and there is a circle of impunity that begins to review various causes, we can review the emblematic ones regarding police violence. or violence of the security force there is a trait that is present in all of them Julio López disappeared in 2006 more recently also in the cause of the disappearance of Santiago Maldonado and of course in that of Luciano what is that link that the prosecutors put to investigate the same suspected security forces and that step by step with Luciano continues to happen is that impunity is what is clearly going to guarantee the lack of truth in the case of Luciano as in the case of Santiago we are talking about forced disappearances Forced disappearances not only have material responsibilities but also political and judicial ones and what happens when the justice system has to investigate the justice system and what happens when the justice system has to investigate the political officials who give those orders and what happens when we verify that independence does not exist between the judicial power and the political power and that it has not existed for years and that everything ends in arrangements and how beneficial impunity is so that these arrangements are maintained and so that society does not become aware of what a forced disappearance means in democracy and no longer about two hundred and in that sense we do not simply have to go and complain to the institutions we do not have to organize every January on the anniversary of the disappearance of Luciano Arruga in the neighborhood square 12 de Octubre relatives and victims of police violence meet and debate in an assembly they hug and listen to each other they come from all over the country we want the whole truth all the justice and all the memory and 30,000 detainees in the family thank you for always accompanying us for being in each of the activities that we have done for Luciano to ask for justice together with us and to continue demanding the truth both for everything that disappeared during the last genocide and for all those missing from the different constitutional governments and here we come to recharge our batteries to find ourselves to also begin to discover ourselves and see that without the organization nothing is possible, look how many years have passed and Louisiana's body was not found and yet we were accompanying them, they were accompanying us and we saw that when we lowered our arms there was another who raised his arms and walked to yours, then that's what the organization does, that's what makes maybe a scream, they don't hear your screams, no, but hundreds of screams and organized, but to fight, these voices give visibility to what happens in the popular neighborhoods, here there are no cases, stories, and they emerge. other insecurities, which usually are not news, my suspicion at first minute I said as soon as I reported Joana's disappearance that my daughter was captured by a trafficking network and that the state of accomplice that the same police that manages the bodies Our girls, I'm not afraid to say it, Luciano, well, not right now, Cortiñas, I'm with you when they were alone in this fight in the search for truth, when they were trying to make visible what had happened with Luciano, I'm going to propose that you listen to all of our times for the crimes of against humanity we always had those fences that they want to hide it, that no government wants to take charge and that they want to blame the rest of the people for this state of impunity because these crimes are repeated due to the state of impunity that exists at the beginning Vanessa was alone In this search for that truth he is executed although the mothers would seem to have been the guide of this fight for human rights but we were not alone this was always a walk that was slow it was hard many people at the beginning did not want to listen to us either many people He didn't believe us, well, what triggers you a little, they're going to listen to it now, well, first of all, all of our family and friends were very grateful to him, now it's real that he was the first figure within the field of human rights that began to accompany us, that he gave us encouragement to moving forward that is pure containment of course it was not the same time it is history it is organization it is struggle and all of that for us became an example of how to move forward and make visible the cause of luciano no era is still looking for his son gustavo and he It does so with a force that we cannot understand where it comes from.

It also seems to me that what happens, I would venture to say, in the life of a person like now is that feeling that things are not lost, that there are voices younger than the ones. of it that they are following a path that they have left us a way of building that moves away from the personal ambitions of selfishness that is closer is a construction among many that tends to generate bonds of solidarity and at the same time to think about a project of different society with this hypothesis of seeing how a kind of generational change has occurred where many Jewish cases are very relevant cases, not as it has been not only that of Luciano but you leading the fight, that of Santiago and Sergio Maldonado leading the fight, say that generational change to the generation of brothers not leading the fight as you see it, yes, there are many brothers and sisters with whom I have come across, we are occupying a space and putting a word before the events that affect us and that affect part of our As a family, we are accompanying our mothers and our fathers in this process and it seems to me that it is a role that we have to do with absolute dedication and trying to accompany well those who are broken, it could be the fathers or the mothers, the majority are mothers who go out to the fight, this must be highlighted by very brave women and well when when a mother is killed by a woman, her son or daughter does not disappear, well the pain is great the pain is disturbing in the pain can lead to total paralysis of that person and there we brothers assume a responsibility and I understand that one of very, very great love is to accompany our wives in this process and there the figure of the brothers and sisters is fundamental to accompany the deep suffering of our wives.

It happened with Monica with your old woman. I would like to share Monica's words with voice. Today, with a whole Monica, Monica Abanilla, I will tell you about the processes at the beginning. I believe that part of her life was left there in the struggle. I am going to tell you a phrase that Vanessa once told me to be more active because I don't give any more, I got this far, I'm breaking into pieces, that is, I didn't realize it, I also thought that Lucía wasn't going to come back, that everything she did, I didn't even ask the spirits to come back and that It was a whole circus, I didn't take into the dimension of nes while my daughter was falling apart, you understand later that I tried to do a little but it was also difficult for me to learn, it wasn't easy I always say that I had family and friends next to me who didn't help me. she let me fall and she marked my mistakes because I always said it well, Martín, the mistakes because I am going to make millions of mistakes.

I think that she knows how to thank Vanessa, thank you because she said her life in this fight for part of her years because she was an idiot. Yes, thank you and I also apologize because I didn't know how to see why I left her alone because I didn't understand her pain because I was selfish and only my own good because I lost a son but she lost a friend she lost her brother and she lost her family her mother because I too She was dead today I recognize her for everything she did I am very proud of her I am proud to be Vanessa's mother Luciano's sister Arrugas the black villero who refused to steal for the police well my old lady you don't have to thank me for anything Not even my old woman has to apologize to me for anything and I did what I had to do and I did it because I chose to do it, I decided to do it.

I love her infinitely as I love my grandmother and in everything I can continue to accompany those two women. I will continue to make her happy that my support at the time when she needs it most has helped her to be able to move forward today and be on par with me and on par with many other mothers talking about what happens to our young people how to forgive what because my mother Therefore, just as thanks to my grandmother, therefore, Vanessa did not change anything about the plot that explains the harassment, the kidnapping, the disappearance, the murder of Luciano, I changed something about that plot today in relation to other kids in relation to other kids and other girls 1 no no, that plot did not change because when one arrives in a neighborhood when one arrives in a neighborhood those plots are present the police controlling the different forms of crime within a neighborhood that is present controlling means regulating controlling regulating protecting the terms that are wanted but for that a criminal system within a neighborhood works with the number of police forces that exist within a neighborhood and the only possibility that remains is that the same force is a participant in those criminal situations that occur.are giving if they are still valid and that is why I believe that and I return to what we said at the beginning, it is very necessary for all of us who are working in neighborhoods to begin to put a more forceful word in relation to what is happening in the neighborhoods and to be able to begin to think about a change in its generality because we are running around trying to put out small fires but everyone is learning fire in different parts of the country and it is no longer enough to save the lives of 12 kids here we have to start having strategies to be able to resolve this situation that is What is happening is that it speaks of a great abandonment on the part of the state institutions of the state as a whole and that well they are leaving the way clear for all these criminal networks with enormous power with the power that the police give them within the neighborhoods.

Justice pretending not to understand as if this did not happen and of course this serves the different constitutional governments during the democratic era. It has served them to keep these things in the state they are in because they are useful for other businesses. Basically, insecurity is a very big business. It is very large, there are many people who are benefiting from the fear of a sector of society that asks for more and more security and there is another sector, of course, that sees more and more lives lost. The family members have been denouncing organized and carried out crime for a long time. forward by the police forces how is it that at the same time the different governments that some of them perhaps knew that the police were in charge of committing these crimes have decided to give them more power and this has been done by all the governments all the governments have given them more power to these criminal sectors of our society, I believe that for the police to function with this criminal logic with which they operate, there is body-to-body accompaniment with the same degree of responsibility on the part of the judicial system and the political system and a photo that all tenderness your motherhood yes my motherhood is a beautiful photo it is of my son Astún who is now seven years old well this came into my life when I was 29 years old I chose to be a mother again the word choose I wish that everyone could choose what All women can choose if they want to be mothers or not, I chose to be a mother and I love this role that I have.

I am also a woman. I am a mother. I am a student. I am a militant. I am a worker. My son has filled me with love and also gave me the possibility. It's hard to say, no, but to continue moving much more with the needs of many boys and girls. A mirror, if it's life, it's love, because I'm showing you this photo, Vanessa, because you say that what happened with Luciano put that girl on the edge. of the photo now that it is here in a place I remember this photo I remember at what moment I was in my life I was not far away they were that one that way of this photo they were that one without a doubt that Luciano's story changed me a lot and I find my place I think that with more precision and more certainty and more rage in my ideals, Luciano's cause brought me a resounding no to what I do not want in my life and what I am not willing to tolerate and for a long time I did not relate to the word militant and today Yes, I can humbly say that I am a militant who has firm intentions to organize together with others to defend human rights and especially the human rights of children and adolescents and what I say today I say again is not far from what in At that moment I was thinking or projecting that what do you think I could say to that wall to the one sitting here?

I calculate that what it could tell me is that I found a place where I could release all that anger that I have been carrying not only since the moment I My brother disappeared, see that I am little because they also stole my rights from me and then they stole them from my brothers and they stole from Luciano the fundamental right to be alive today and accompany his family so I have not betrayed that what it was and that leaves me very calm of course one changes but I have not betrayed what I was and what constitutes me as a human being thanks to that no thanks thank you all to the entire team thank you and well and