Head 2 Head FULL EPISODE | Dodge Challenger Hellcat Widebody vs Chevrolet Camaro ZL1—Episode 105

Hi, I'm Joe Neely Ruin and I'm Jethro Bovington from Motor Trends' face-to-face show. We hope you enjoy this free

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, and if you click the link below you'll find thousands of hours of your favorite Motor Trend shows. to click enjoy this one yes I know I've said it 100 times before but Jethro welcome to America specifically 1970's America that's right yes this is a 1970 Dodge Challenger it started life like a 318 doesn't mean anything to me, but yeah, small. Baby know new she put in a 440 wedge engine but that wasn't enough so her husband upped it to 505 cubic inches that's eight point three liters okay let's see how it feels the reason we drive This car, plus it's great overall.

Because I wanted you to have the

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Muscle Car experience, nothing but perfect straight line power, I can't turn, I can't stop, I can't have air conditioning for some unknown reason, so here we are in the desert. I'm going to die, but it's amazing, just a moment. Jethro is absolutely right, this Challenger in cars, my kids, for a moment, gas was cheap, the economy was booming, and the muscle car phenomenon seemed unstoppable; Then, in the early 1970s, came the one-two punch. of the Clean Air Act and the oil crisis and well, folks, the big blocks were gone and the small blocks were strangled, the party was over, but even during those dark decades, a few enthusiastic engineers kept the flame alive and suddenly , about 10 years ago, muscle cars and pony cars caught fire.

They were reborn and more powerful than ever, the horsepower was back, the superchargers were back and routing the tires to the edge goes back to man. Diesel cars are surely a special sauce now, although up there, in the distance, a bit, there are two things that might endear you to them. Get out of this car, okay, let's understand it. Oh yes, those are jobs. I love it, we have the

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Hellcat and we have the Camaro zl1. Which one do you want with more squatting power? Annoy orange, cool, so even though you're legally obligated to do it. look at the royal wedding, you know what to do in this situation, come on, that was a joint UK event in America, just like us, so yeah, we have the most powerful and baddest cars, pony cars or whatever you want to call them, We know this and I love the Chevy Camaro zl1, it's already a 650 horsepower monster with sports car handling and although the Dodge Challenger Hellcat is family-friendly, this

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version promises more traction and yes, it looks great, to the point where they are loud, remorseless and ridiculously so. supercharged with supercharged v8, forget about those cars from the 60s and 70s, this is the next level and look, it seems we have found them on a very long and straight road, okay, in the summer the

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may have 707 horsepower, but it's the wrecked Camaro that wins this race, why?

Simply put, the almost 500-pound lighter Chevy has much better traction due to its superior chassis and its 10-speed 'box has shorter ratios, the wide body runs to 60 miles per hour in 3.9 seconds and hits the quarter mile in eleven point nine seconds at 125 point one. miles per hour, but the Camaro hits those benchmarks in 3.5 seconds and eleven point five, although its catch speed is a little slower, just 124 miles per hour, remember that the catch speed of children is greatly measured a function of power, the more you have, the faster you go in each Measurably, the Camaro zl1 is the most complete performance car, it brakes better and pulls more lateral G and around our figure of eight it runs 23 dead seconds, That's supercar territory of course, numbers aren't everything, especially for muscle cars, which means it's time to blow some smoke.

Johnny, at this point I'm going to defer to your vast experience and superior judgment when it comes to your favorite topic of burnout and Jethro, your deference is justified in my vast experience in the land of free tires. I can tell you that there are three production vehicles that get the best burns in descending order number three, the 2015 Jaguar f-type R single year, 550 horsepower, rear-wheel drive, Jaguar, so Jaguar Euler, number two, the Hellcat, no matter what charger

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, any Hellcat made incredible Burnouts, in fact there was the best in the world until the Camaro zl1 came along and became the absolute king of turning rubber into smoke, yes, but Johnny, what?

Have you tried the new guy, the big fat guy, the wide body with the big pearl is this? This is what it looks like God, it would make awesome burns, yeah, because the tires are like 20 millimeters wider. I mean, what's the difference, so let me guess, for the burns, you'll drive the white Camaro and you'll get the orange thing. car lovers Motor Trend, the best car streaming service, it's not about miles per gallon, it's about, oh yeah, getting the complete Motor Trend library, including every run-over and garage dirt run-over

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I want to know if these cars have learned some new tricks. These are modern muscle cars. They also have to be able to take corners, so let me guess you'd like to drift them, of course. You would know me too well. Why did I bring my Formula D Head normally I love doing these things but Johnny literally took me to a go kart track and I mean a Hellcat okay so if you can please me with a little reality show style confessional huh , I'm not really sure about the beginning. from this course it's hard I can't really drift so who cares about sliding a car it actually tells you something you learn about throttle response, balance of steering response and I'm not really going to show you anything.

I'm going to try to do a rolling burnout. around the entire track because well, it's a Camaro and it cares about drifting a capped white body for added girth on America's narrowest skidpad, burned for distance, so let's see what this is, so , if it corresponds to the tool a little slow, so a kind of strange way of moving wata went, okay, this is the good daughter and you know, the good thing is that it could set the slowest lap ever on this kart track do Let Jethro do the work on the side of the car. Oh, if only that would restore the pamita wheels.

Once Johnny was out. He finished his lap, which was just before sunset, so I was able to ride a little faster. The zl1 is still huge for our kart track, but it feels smaller, much stiffer, and has a lot more grip - of course, with six hundred and fifty foot-pounds of drift it isn't. It's a problem, but this is a chassis that wants to grip rather than slide, and while it's progressive, it's less forgiving than the Hellcat, which turns out to be a big, loud kitten to control when, sideways, on a track. Really, the Camaro would destroy the Hellcat. the big willow was six seconds a lap faster but this is not a normal track Hellcat is the king of wear and turns around the Camaro whatever come on Jethro it's time to get serious you want curves I'll give you curves let's go to one of my favorite roads, this car represents everything you should hate, being huge, heavy and based on a 1942 chassis.

It's a sanguine instrument in many ways. I love being in it. He is the King of well-being. of cars it's great if it's called that it looks so good it drives like hell literally yeah yeah and even though it's not a Camaro in many ways it drives pretty well that's what I'd say the chassis isn't so bad, oh, there's more traction. than you think in terms, smile, it's not the last word in sophistication, it's a real muscle car and it's just amazing, too much power and torque in all the welds, the rear wheels, but it doesn't turn, it never spends around it. turn all that power into smoke smoke and joy wake up you have to go to work and I'm going to dress the kids you have to eat half a piece of bread but then you get into this for about 20 minutes and you're in the most attractive misfit, the one that sounds craziest, as you know, the iconoclastic batboy.

It makes me happy if you wake up and have muscle car posters on your wall. This is how they should have been from the factory. It has air-conditioned seats. everything that works oh and it's 50 times faster it gets cool it stops it's fun it's kind of the complete package it's the muscle car of your dreams it's its americorps wheels ah yeah it really is good american cars like this need to exist yeah it's almost like the American working class Lamborghini. Hello, yes, it's just about fun and enjoyment, finishing up and being over the top and outgoing and celebrating how stupid it is.

This thing is unstoppable. It will have to be resolved on the court face to face every day. The episode is now streaming only on the auto trade. Now start your free trial to watch it on any device as a Brit who grew up thinking about American light cop car chases and likes big things about the steering with hubcaps falling off. I want my helicopter to be half of that. I want to turn the corner and be overtaken by my own journey, you should have a button on the dashboard, a new gift and they all just fly away, what do you really spend most of your time doing?

You're sitting in traffic and you're angry, you can make some fire just by touching the gas pedal, also because if they were so smart, go slow, since they go fast, yeah, and nothing goes as slow as hell, yeah , it seems that the widebody Hellcat has won over our British friend. I don't know why I'm surprised that there is a block of kids on social media doing nothing but throwing shade at this too big, too old for anything car. I guarantee that after two minutes of driving a Hellcat, all the helpers would be smiling by now, let's see if the faster, smaller lighter handles the same warm and fuzzy feelings better.

Hey Johnny, I'll give you the easiest job in the world. I want you to make a rational argument as to why the ZL up is a bad car than the Hellcat, why Pony? It's a faster car that handles better. If you really want to set a time or be faster, that's the best sports car. This is a supercar. This is a supercar. You can combine it with Ferrari. I'm going to stick with Lamborghini, this is amazing, so rationally speaking it's a better performance car than the Hellcat, yes I think in all the dynamic aspects of the steering it has the complete package.

Give me a rational argument as to why this is a bad muscle car than a Hellcat. wide body doesn't tell your heartstrings the same way, let the health care really check some interesting boxes, yes the sex, the Hellcat represents everything I don't like in cars, but somehow I love it, make it fun, this is Should be up my street and I like it, it's amazing, I love it, I love the gearbox so much more, it's almost your clutch, good range on the chassis, the way this thing is tight where it hits the corners, the traction, the fact that it's our turn is very good and it will slide, of course it will, but it's progressive, it just feels

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time as an alternative to fill an m4 crisis and, So this is 68 grand, most of the m4 is out the door 75 thousand, this laughs at them, pisses on them, does it? burns them, sets them on fire, steals their lunch money, yeah, I mean, are you trying to do to Majan what they told me?

Phil below 600 and he wouldn't move the garbage control system he would just stop the car right if your My own acre digs into the table I have with rear tires that's what I'm trying to do now is get traction and I think the difference between them on this road, if you had this car, you would make the effort to come here and enjoy it. and drive there and terrorize the Porsches, all that stuff, the Hellcat isn't amazingly good on this road because that's the right thing to do, the Hellcat will give youYou'd have as much fun, you know, driving down the street as you would in Angeles.

Crest, no matter where you are, you have fun strolling down the street as it is, you can still get rid of the exhaustion as we saw, you know, it doesn't really tingle like the Hellcat in an everyday situation. torn between my purest ideals but next to old honey tones and it stops and it's slow stairs and it does all the things I would love and yet I can't stop thinking about Helga's appearance, it's just about infrared, it will draw you in The kids teach you how to roll a joint, you know, and it's just a bad car.

I think you're right when you said about the split in the evolutionary line that the Hellcat embraces what was a muscle car, yeah, and then turns it into this incredible reality this almost doesn't even go up against a sports car like Ginawa. I'm not a sports car, he's a connected sports car, yes, taking on BMW and AMG and everything else in decent GTRs, I mean. You're going to be just as fast here in this as you would be in a GTR and this has 100 more horsepower than the GTR. Who could edit this bird? I'm thinking the negative thing about this is that it's not that similar.

Knuckle dragging is the worst, but don't we spend?our race says we don't want vehicles that drag knuckles, we want precise cars that handle well and put to shame things that cost five times as much and things we got to witness at our show, you know really Why, okay, okay, we could call it an honorable draw. the widebody Hellcat is the muscle car that evolved faster, sharper, but not so sharp that it loses that muscle car identity tomorrow is the muscle car reimagined into a sports car, sports car, small shoes, a European champion for breakfast, either of the two is very desirable, but we "I need an absolute winner, so let's go back to the beginning, so the conclusion of this episode I will say right away, although this has begun to shine, we cannot escape and declare to the 1970

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as the winner, we simply can.

I don't, I really want to, but let's leave it here, how do you choose a winner? It is quite difficult from the side or five purposes to fall in love with Alka. I shouldn't love it, but every time we get it. the smile is, I mean, it's everything you represent, it's the opposite of what I've become in America these last two days, it's a supercar, it's a supercar, but you know, welcome, I have to bow to you. I have heard it. you say that about yourself when it comes to shuco, come on, I mean, this is as difficult as it can be and since we're not going to rush out with this car just by the smallest of margins, like both keys are in the ignition. the ground and I can go and grab one, it'll be the Camaro, it's just so much better, you can't, you can't fault it, so the winner of this search is the Camaro zl1.

I will take it. The affiliate thought he was spending in Wales, even kidney five would be pretty American, although that would be for you, you know, like cheeseburger seat covers or something.