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GIRL CHAT VAULT: Is This Punishment Cruel or Creative?

GIRL CHAT VAULT: Is This Punishment Cruel or Creative?
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one okay actress and singer Raven Symone has found herself in hot water for reposting a photo on Instagram which featured artists including Ti jay-z and Diddy at the rock nation pre-grammy brunch now the post said in part quote a group of so-called successful black men who become rich and famous from perpetuating the worst black stereotypes like drug-dealing pimp ii murdering other black men and disrespecting black women i know making observations as being a hater Cheers now raven eventually chose to delete the post saying quote the comments are not something I want my underage followers looking at I'm not deleting because I don't believe in what I said well y'all after tea I saw that post he decided to make one of his own posting a picture with the Oscar Wilde quote every saint has a past every sinner has a future raven in his caption quote i says ain't no...
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greater than yours ma'am the air must be finished hail up there on that high horse you said no now ladies what do you think about Ravens pulse it sounded angry to me so that must be coming from somewhere I don't know if she was angry but when I just look at the opinion itself I'm gonna give you before we get into

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let me give you a little more background on it okay

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the original post was made by speech who was a he was the leader of the hip-hop group the 90s hip-hop group Arrested Development put up the post and when he put the post it was reposted by Malcolm Jamal Warner by Raven so I just want that out there but also he put that post and he put that quote he also had another part and

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is the part I wanna read can any of us who've grown up on these brothers have evolved but I don't necessarily hear the same evolution in the music he continued in words are still in words bees are still bees and hoes and flipping bricks and tricks is still the way to get that dough until you make enough to live like they do and if you think these black men got rich off of what they sold us in hip-hop just imagine how much money the white man made off of them now that was the entire post so I just want to give you guys that background it's great to end I got one yeah right it's not one-sided but also I also want to say that um trey songz in TI's post he went out he's you know he said commented on he commented about Raven but he also said in...
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YouTube speech so I just want to make that you know clear so now with that saying now you we can talk about

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and the issue so I know people are gonna be like well you know her but like clearly we never had conversations like

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back in our cheetah

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day right but I will say

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I that's the truth okay um I yeah but people be like she knows her I think that when I see a photo like

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I see God's goodness and mercy and I think when I say that I feel that every single one of us has things that we're not proud of we've all made mistakes in our lives we've all had different upbringings you don't know what somebody's past was you don't know why they did what they did but what I do see in that photo is that they have evolved like they said and when we say they've evolved and I disagree with that we don't hear it in the music I completely disagree see I after going to jail had to make an entire album that had no snow curse words in it and it was a great album so so obviously his artistry and his creativity is major we hear what jay-z is rapping about and I'm sorry that's deep when he talks about being good to his wife being good father to his daughter I'm changing who he is as a person and changing maybe his mindset that he used to be when you see

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the song killed jay-z it's about changing who that person was back then and becoming someone new so every day we wake up to mercy with God and I think that I believe...
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in new beginnings for every single person not one chance he's not the god of the first chance a second chance a third the fourth or fifth or sixth or seventh and unless you have never done anything that you're not proud of then I think you can say a statement like

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but if you if you can't then I just think it's very judgmental and I think that if you see any room of anybody not just Blackman but there's Latinos that have done wrong there's white people that don't do right every single day that have bad past - it's not a race thing either that is my opinion okay music back in the day from a lot of these rappers I grew up with I heard men and women by the way it wasn't just men making music then but women as well that we're making music about their reality what they were seeing what they were living what they were engaging it it's just their reality and I think it's important to be when you grow up to remain true to yourself and to own your truths so you have to have an outlet where you talk about your truth some people do it through rap some people do to a spoken word some do through movies writing books we do it on

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show we talk about things that we aren't proud of or things that we grew through and had to go through to get to where we are so when I look at that picture and the words that hurt you know for me looking at some of the people that I grew up with so-called successful I look at men now that our fathers...
that our husbands that our business moguls that have paved the way for other rappers you said I can be like you and that's me is success when you can help somebody heal and actually get to a dream that they need a there's little boys that may see

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photo and instead of seeing something negative they could say man I had an option to go the wrong way but if they can do it I can do it too and I think that's an option as well for them and you can say okay maybe the songs aren't saying then maybe the songs aren't wake up in the morning you don't know how that song may affect somebody else that maybe the song that made it motivate somebody to get up in the morning and go to work that may be the song that gets you in the gym going that you're like yeah I can do

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you don't know what role they play in other people's lives well if I'm honest my mom and my grandmother as you guys know they're very religious I didn't grow up listening to rap because of some of the curse words and and because of some of the things that were said in in the songs but as an adult I made the choice to listen to some of the lyrics and yes they are talking about what they have experienced in their life and I have the wisdom and knowledge to know okay what they did coming up and what they're doing now and that's what I choose to focus on what are you doing with your color and the thing is I can think of two things by looking at two people in that...
picture Shawn Carter jay-z actually has the Shawn Carter foundation s that helps children further their education I've given away four million dollars of scholarship funds Khalid DJ Khaled oh my god she's popped probably one of the most positive people you can follow Instagram and he's actually given away twenty five thousand dollars to the victims of Hurricane Harvey as TI so that is what I'm choosing to look at exactly what you said Adrienne we have to think how people have evolved in and how they have changed and what they are doing with that change I just want to say hip-hop started because they took music out of the underwhelming neighborhoods there was no music programs so

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is the thing is that hip-hop started because the children really didn't have anything they did not learn studies it in-house increase so they used it as an outlet so when you hear them rapping they were rapping about their environment their product of their environment and they were able to make money off of it the thing that I have an issue with is why as we as black people when we see something that could be positive we put each other down you don't see Jewish people doing it you don't see Asian people doing it we need to stop that okay if you yeah I understand if you got an issue with it fine maybe you know I'm just speaking for myself maybe he got upset because he ain't had a hit since the 90s okay but don't don't push down jay-z in them because you...
ain't had a hit why don't you try to join jay-z and maybe help him if you want to make a change be the change picture to see them holding guns and all I was proud of them from where they all come from we need more positivity so that just that just bugs me like we need to stop as a people always puppets up you got to hear what you guys had to say at Shana Joy said everyone has a right to their own opinion and she's right that's what she's saying they all started their music career like that and yes they have all evolved to much better and greater thank God that mrs. Edwards said I see both sides yes they made their money from lives from lies and misrepresentation of our communities but they have matured and are really a driving force of inspiration and give back you got to forgive sometimes and you know what you don't want to hear their rap there's a lot of rappers that are very clean raps and they have conscience and things like that so we can't say that we can't just point them out rap and hip-hop is here to stay that whether you like it well from controversial close to controversial parenting a very angry mom thought of a very

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way to punish her son after he got suspect suspended from school for fighting she grabbed his PlayStation controller and smashed it with the meat tenderizer right in front of us lower video was posted to Twitter by user at cig HIDA check it out the whir of that sound y'all know some people find it...
incredibly funny so the post has been retweeted over 20,000 times with many users praising the moms creativity however others felt like she was only hurting herself is hurting moms over here too because new controllers can be expensive now huh but don't worry the mom actually set up a GoFundMe page to help by her son a new controller lately defeated the purpose so what he needs is

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GoFundMe page is she - I'm saying that's the only thing that's

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just the the controller that you broke break the control put it in your panty drawer and be like don't touch it I'm not a mom and I know that being suspended from school is that's an add crazy like that it's like fatty aureus that's a very serious deal and obviously she saw there was a focus of her son that she needed to take away my only problem really wasn't taking away the controller or banging it cuz my mom might have done something crazy like that she would ran over it with the back of the car no play anymore done but here's the problem when she recorded it and put the camera up in her son's face and if you read it she kind of graphically is like help me like he's hurtin and she kind of made fun of it that's when I was like when you discipline your kids you gotta set a really fine a very bold line between where you've crossed and where you're now getting punished I don't know the situation...
completely I don't know how many times

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kid has been expelled you know she may have just been completely over it and done with it however okay I believe that two wrongs don't make a right I truly do and I believe it's up to us as parents to teach our children better so you actually banging the controller with a meat hammer to me isn't really teaching him anything what I think it would have done well

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is I think the best way of going up okay I would have said okay all right you would love

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place patient so much and you didn't listen to what I'm gonna say so you know what you have lost your privileges 100% because you didn't listen to me and you got expelled so what I want you to do I'm not gonna throw it away I'm not gonna beat it up because those things are expensive I want you to go over to that kids house who you beat up and I want you to give it to him as an apology teaching them you know to have some type of values and at the same time you let him know uh-huh you don't treat people like

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and you're not ever gonna play with that ever ever again

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entire year until you get your act right yeah that to me is abuse that's that's child abuse you mean it to me you know you were doing that taping it and putting an egg that child's face I mean and

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is our t lonnie speaking i don't think that that's right did you see children and then post it out there for a couple of lights stop doing that to...
your kid get down we take the post down if it's been on the internet it'll live there forever so he will be a grown man and that video will still be out there so i just agree with Lonnie that discipline your kids how you choose you don't have to film it and put it on the you guys are so funny lovely SMW said absolutely not in my Adrienne voice but I will play the game in my living room as loud as possible so they can hear how much fun they are not she's the mother of that screen he knows it's also dmg xoxo said if they pay for it I guess just sounds like a waste of money to me my mom used to take my game system or phone to work with her so I wouldn't be able to use it she was a single mom working three jobs so it wouldn't be over a week before I saw her and my stuff again lol here asked us to put up you know I'm so sick of y'all and these GoFundMe pages using these I lost my funding

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little boy next remote control that I just watch great what of the meeting all right you know and then I'm like we should have ran I didn't read the what God what her things was yeah you know the whole go fund me excused yes yeah she's fine she wants $5,000 what for a $55 controller that's why that's abuse yeah I will have to say though I love how much I learned here like I know you want to be a mom I got mama Tami to teach me things auntie Loni cuz cousin Jeanne still want to backed up over that thing