Full Interview: Hrithik Roshan On Kangana Ranuat | Nation Wants To Know With Arnab Goswami

Today's guests on The Nation Want to Know have been at the center of a more intense media storm over the last week, but in many ways over the last three or four years he has caused an absolute sensation by calling himself a victim of the harassment that has had Hrithik Roshan. He had never talked about this before. The

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why he is speaking today. As far as celebrity battles go, there's been nothing more intense and more polarizing than what's been happening over the past week.

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today. Hrithik, welcome, thank you, thank you, so he takes it again. The nation wants to know why you are here first. You haven't been talking for the last three or four years. Only now that you've given your perspective, which has made you come out and face the cameras today. Well, first of all I just want to say that I'm not a victim like you just said. I know it's a word that I used that phrase but I don't consider myself a victim.

I don't think anything that could happen in my life makes me think that way about myself. I just want to clarify that first issue of harassment. the Lobeck group I know and have always known that anything I say can and will be used against me because maybe because of who I am I don't know and I have to be honest, I feel very, very uncomfortable right now, I am not a person . who likes to confront I am NOT a completely confrontational person. I have never had a single fight in my life with either a man or a girl.

Even in my divorce there was no fight. Each time I asked myself a simple question: which is the shortest? two-piece pee route I get my answer and follow it. I also know that there is absolutely no fun in what I'm doing right now. There is no fun in sitting here and testifying to my character and making it seem right and good. and - and by implication making someone else wrong I don't think that's elegant. I was also very, very afraid. I have been afraid. I have been afraid that my words would be misinterpreted if, if I appear strong, they might turn me into someone else. aggressive if I can show any emotion they can make me weak if I can sound vulnerable they will say oh maybe he's looking for sympathy the list goes on it's been very confusing it's been a dilemma in my head but you know what I am I'm walking down the street and a person abuses me my.

The most dignified and strongest thing I can do is keep walking, it does not affect my life, but if that person starts throwing stones at my house and affects my well-being and that of my family, then silence is no longer strength, that silence then becomes turns into weakness and it's been four years I think I've had enough so you're telling me that one of the reasons you're speaking today is because you think your silence will be seen as cowardice you know I come without any preconception I've had enough I need say what I want to say enough of enough I don't know what word to choose I can't describe it I realized that I have I have been pretending because I have to live up to this star of mine that I have to look confident.

I got up, you know, being cool and fine and not paying attention to something that's not important. After a while, I realized that I was pretending that it was affecting that it was affecting my sense of community it was affecting my sense of well-being and I said you know, I'm pretending that's not being a hero, that's not strength, that's fake. , I had to do it. Something about it is that it was time when it was the moment to burst when you knew it many times I have had many of these moments when I said that's it I have to speak my truth people stopped me what did you hold back?

I don't want to blame people, but I was advised to start because you know that when you're not in this, it's probably the only situation that has had the ability to change my center and usually I would like to believe that I am very, very stable. , but in that state of mind it was not advisable to go out and talk, so it's not that I feel totally comfortable right now, but you have to grow up and really realize that some things just need to be done. so we'll really get into some granular details we'll grow and we'll go over the details we'll go over the timeline first of all I want to tell you guys don't know, you're saying it candidly and I appreciate the fact that you're being blunt enough with me and saying that you're not comfortable. , right, yes, I'm very happy because there are many more, because there are many politicians who actually don't feel comfortable sitting in front of me, but you pretend that they are. comfortable, so listen here mmm, there are others who pretend that we talk, breathing, yes, let's also go back, there is also uh, you don't need to explain beyond a certain point, people know, that's what you know, it's fantastic, the People who watch this show will know it.

I believe that television is a transparent medium. people are afraid of being vulnerable I had to accept my own vulnerability okay yes, I was afraid and now I am NOT going to be afraid of that. I'm going to allow my mind and my heart to say what they want to say. and allow the pieces to fall where they want to say yes in my language or my words yes I hurt someone's feelings I would like to apologize right now because okay, let's talk clearly yes, when did you first meet the kangaroo? Probably 2009 when 2008 when we started shooting kites and to cut the cheese in 2009 when you were shooting for kites, close friend of

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, an article that has since gone viral said that they both, quote, found solace in the company of the another and they became good friends, so I was reluctant about what happened, we didn't become good friends.

I went very, not just through the kites but also through Chris Tree. I found her extremely professional to the extent that I was. I was really very proud of her. I mean, she came to her with her dialogue with enough preparation. It was a trick or a scene, she was just giving that camera everything she had and these were for my movies, someone, some actor, giving a lot to my movie, I mean, that's more than I can ask for, you know , is the most important thing in I was very proud of my work and I think I must have mentioned that to her many times, she even told me that she was very inspired by me when I was about eight years old and eight or nine years old and she saw my photo in some newspaper when I was in Manali and said that he was inspired by me and I wanted you to know that being active for the sake of being inspired is one thing, being in love is another, I'm just seeing what I know, so he said.

And I took it as a compliment and the other exchanges we had were about she had a problem with her language. You know, she was trying to learn to speak better and I come from a place where language has been a problem for me. Also, she used to tell him my stories and that used to give him more power, so we have had such exchanges and throughout the development of both films, so what is this business of finding solace in each other's company? for me a romance suggestion, no I don't have to ask her friend, I don't know who the friend is, whoever the new one is - friends anonymous in 2011, Kangana signed Krrish 3 with you and went on to say in a recent

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that You begged him to sign Krrish 3 for six months.

It's true? Well, my father had an idea about casting this character and he approached Kangana and she had a feeling that maybe her role eventually couldn't be cut because she didn't like the lead and that took some convincing, where my father gave her a complete narration of the entire movie and explained to her how important that character was and finally, I don't think it was six months, maybe a week or two and if finally she understood and gave me, I wasn't involved, so it was a relationship again. I ask you if there was any relationship. People now say they can't be.

You know, broad generalizations are being made. Yes, there wasn't. relationship like it can't be smoke without fire, yeah, well, reality is stranger than fiction. I guess I don't know, there was no relationship, nothing remotely romantic. I know what happened during the shooting of Krrish 3. I know I wonder. I wonder if my need to please. my actors may have done it later in some way I don't know, I would just do it, it's just something I wonder about, you know, if he sent a smiley face or if she was doing a somersault on the beach and you know she made it in his training and managed to do something incredible as a feat.

She used to send me a video of it and I used to compliment her to high heavens and say, wow, you know, so I don't do it. I know if that's all I did that's all I did if that's caused all of this then I guess I'm to blame so what you're saying is that you were trying to please all your actors on your set you were also being professional when you were all in, I think it's like when you're the host and you're at your party, yeah, it's going to be really nice, no, but it was there, there wasn't a relationship with notes. without religion there was no relationship this was at most a smiley face or a response to a video sent complementary words Smile and yes, complementary a flirty if I can ask you directly Was there anything flirty?

No, so what happened during the shooting of Krrish 3? Tell me a little I also found out that she was very very shy she never spoke we didn't even get to a point where we had a conversation like a proper conversation but you are friendly in 2012 you invited Kangana to your sister's birthday party in 2013, you are then. wife and your parents attended her birthday party in September 2013 Kangana attended your father's birthday party what was your dynamic with Kangana in this period 2011 12:30 p.m. All this is my team, goodbye, all this is why we are filming my movie and I would invite them and hug them as if they were my team, whether they are the actors, whether they are the vehicle, I mean those.

They were all moments of celebration. I am a very proud person when my team is working together towards the vision of Krrish 3 it was the toughest challenge of our lives and having that support from my actors was very, very encouraging. Something was there. something more than that was that there was something again I ask you again because as it is said here now then we are reviewing the chronology let's review it is said here now that all this could not have happened there is no smoke without fire look here they go to the parties of birthday of the other, their relatives are calling in front of all the parties because they are going with a hundred people that I invited.

I don't think they invited you to any of them, Marcia? other birthday parties where the movies weren't in production, which just shows that this was something that happened during the production of a movie and when you're making a movie and you celebrate a birthday or whatever and you call over a hundred people, make sure you include your team to tell me that all this was there at any time you can remember this incident that was often talked about when you were in Dubai at a party to watch a movie, was there something at some point ? written time where you started to worry where she saw something else where maybe you saw that on her side there was you know you used the word that she may have misunderstood something like she was being harassed was there something like that in her behavior from your side?

That made you think that we knew the story about the incident on Friday when we were at the farewell party for the program we did in Jordan, where at the end of the party I was ready to retire for the night and she asked me if I knew I could ask myself. to ask her for advice, the movie ended and you know she wanted to know what other options she had in her life and what path she should take except by exception. She was very, very tired, so I told her you know, let's chat in the morning because we have a long flight back we can chat the whole way and I'll talk to you in the morning.

I'm really really tired right now, so I went to my room and asked for my room service and someone for the dog. There was a knock at the door and I knocked, the knock was too loud, so I looked through the people and the keyhole and waited. This is all happiness in 2012. I think October is good so far, everything has been absolutely, you know. Fantastic and everyone is very happy and together and feels very good about the film. I was like this last night when it ended up being her knocking on that door and I saw through the keyhole and I didn't think she was in the right state.

You know I should answer the door, well it's a party so you have a few drinks and stuff so I called my sushi assistant and he went up to her room and asked her sister to come down and take her back to your room and that's it. That's when I asked her what she would do if she wanted to meet you, talk to you. What was she? Yeah. I guess she had asked you to have a talk that night and I told her she was too tired, so I guess she came back. You know she's gone.

I'm sleepy with no one later I talked about it with Rangoli she came up to me and talked to me about it the next day at the airport tell her okay since you know I'm really sorry she behaved like that, she doesn't do that, she's a good girl and I said, of course, when Rudy, that's it please don't think for a second that I'm judging. I've seen people, my own friends at parties, when you know, when you had someI identified this person for the first time in my life and are counting their days. I mean, why didn't you send one?

He replied Wow Kangana, this is ridiculous. Original email. Erna. I would. I don't want to receive any sexual explanation from you. My higher understanding of life has taught me that sometimes ignorance is the best way to discourage someone from intrusive actions like this, so this is not the first time I understand that it is not. The first time someone sent me meals like this, there were situations in my life where I received countless emails, all random, one person constantly obsessive and I learned in my past that if my ignorance discouraged him and he stopped. I was hoping that my lack of reaction would discourage this act, and it's not like I've simply been passive about it.

I've been worried. I've been worried. I have spoken with friends. I have spoken with. people in the industry that what should I do? Do you know someone who is a friend of his? Could you help me? Just figure out why you cared to log in. You see in my I did not reply in the email of July 13, 2014 from Congress the email ID to your ID says before sending you the next email. I would like you to tell me when and where you would like to receive my messages when you receive this email. My question to you is why didn't you do it? respond and clarify things I already did it where is the email 1 correct 1 means 1 1 1 month I would not like to know can you say dear Kangana this is ridiculous I would not like to receive your emails and messages particularly specifically do not send me a sexually explicit message regarding thank you Hrithik Roshan the effect that my conversation with Rangoli had a month ago the effect that that had on me when I heard terms like rape when I already had them all I if you read the content of the email this is that I did not find any type of coherence in his language or did I do this was a disaster in his email on 13 August 2014 according to his police complaint Kangana used explicit sexual language and deliberately tried to lure him why didn't she file a police complaint earlier like I said the first police complainants in 2016, a police report would become public.

Maybe I would have had to name the person I didn't want to mess with, who was going through my own problems at the time and I also want to establish that while these emails were coming to me while they were coming to me I was a single man I was a single man 2014 2015 2016 I have been a single man I could have responded I could even have made a phone call I could have sent an SMS saying "Okay, come." I could have done it, thank God, I didn't because if I had sent even an SMS or a phone call I wouldn't have been able to fight this case, so you're saying she was trying. to gather evidence against her, sorry, you're saying she was trying to gather evidence against you.

I don't know what you were doing because you know that in an email dated 15, 2014 it says: do you find it strange receiving my emails on your work email ID, yes, and it says: Should I try sending emails with your old ID? Email com1 no, wait a minute, wait a minute, Hrithik, this is not innocent. If you had responded to this, say you could send it to that idea of ​​this ID that would have been an acknowledgment that the email ID was the ID you were using. Whatever he had responded to would have constituted an exchange. I didn't want to be associated with this at all.

It was not aligned with my higher purpose in my life. I am aligned. with doing constructive work I am a creative person I believe in productive work I have my children there are many things that I was building at that time I had no interest in this I had no interest until it reached a point where it began to manifest in the outside world this was in my inbox I can handle that there are a lot of things in my life that I have handled without treating myself like someone who is our victim or someone who can't handle something and I guess I rattle. don't be nervous I could I could deal with my problems if this is a problem I know what to do with it I can just put it aside and move on with my life you think why didn't you protect yourself that was a mistake why aren't you protecting yourself I mean , I agree, no, no, the only part that doesn't fit me at all.

I can tell you that anyone who watches this

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will know that this man has been told that he married her in his public imagination of her. married to his formal wireless divorced to his own wife and not at this time not at dinner no no no no 2014 which was later in the stop by email it was acknowledged that the chronology of this must be understood, it is a bit difficult, it has so many layers 2014 were men 2015 is when she makes it public no, I'm not going to the year 2014, I'm in 2014 yes, in 2014 you're getting 3000 emails you realize it's crazy yes, so one of the things that I did, you knew So the thing is, six months is 150 days, an average of 3000 emails, do you know what we're talking about?

Hrithik, 15 to 20 emails a day. Yes, that shows us everything after a week or two, it stopped bothering me because it went into my spam. I never read them, it was a cyber crime that helped me recover all these spam emails after 2 years so that I could understand what was the path of the cyber criminal. I went to them and entirely to the police. Yes, you are saying that Mumbai police helped. you recover the mills, Mumbai police, not the police, you encrypt your own cyber people, the cyber people who did my forensic analysis, they helped me recover all the emails so that I can read them and try to understand what and why they are these emails. from these mills thousands of emails went to your spam box that you never had I never knew who these forensic people are I mean, I don't know if they talk about Drake, of course, I'm sure they are a Kanta, a competent well. -Known established institution and of course they would be happy to talk to Hritik.

You've gotten emails where he says I sometimes feel so insecure that everything I love really exists or is a fantasy and he says I feel something I've never felt before. I'm afraid and I'm afraid what did you do with these bills I reserve my opinion I don't know I'm not here to make judgments or opinions because that's not my job I'm not a doctor if anyone has seen these emails and I'm not going to make any judgment either and I'm going to say the word and I'm not going to say the word either but what I'm telling you is that this is worrying there are meals where she describes she described the last day of French fries three.

I think if you look at the right foods, everything becomes very clear if you look at the food that she describes on the last day of Krrish 3, which was the promotions. Goodbye, we are very well. car my evil dad everyone is sitting there and she says she really wanted to talk but why did she never talk to me because every time she was in front of me she got nervous and like I said she was very very shy that was my experience and she says that I wish I could have said something but that's her, that's her problem, every time she sees me she stays quiet, she gets nervous and she's never been able to tell me the things she wanted to tell me but she says I'll tell you this way now we're in 2014 now could you you could have done it when you get these mills hmm you could have crossed - oh yes I tried I wrote you could have gone and met her, you could have had a conversation, you could have spent time if there were some topics you could have discussed.

Yes, that's what I keep talking about a higher purpose in life. Why isn't it your higher purpose in life? Predict that you could have gone. and I had a conversation and I clarified things we had a conversation maybe a conversation would have helped but you didn't do it why didn't you do it I spoke I had a very deep conversation with the police commissioner at that time with her I had a conversation with mr. Javed Ahmad is right, who was the commissioner at that time and I asked him for advice. I told him this is what I want to do.

I want to run muddy water. I want to meet this girl and I want her to meet her and her sister. and to their parents I just want to go there and show them and ask them if they are aware that this is happening and to find a solution for this, he stopped me and said: we think that's not smart because in a case like this after that meeting you don't know how this person would interpret that and and and and what she would tell the world that what I came and did was not advisable and I had no choice, you see, in fact even Because like you wanted to meet her, you wanted to have a conversation with the sauna, but the Mumbai police commissioner told you no he won't Mr.

Javed the Hellmuth corroborates this. I hope you say. I even called his producer, sir. Sajid Nadiadwala, who was shooting with her, asked him to spend some time on her set. You can ask him that and I said, I just need half an hour. I want to send my manager to meet Rangoli and her sister to inform them. maybe Rangoli doesn't know that they are sending me these emails just to have a conversation and maybe that knowledge would direct them to a better solution or it was denied by who they didn't understand that they were out of the van but they did.

I didn't have time to allow it, but you were doing a biography in the media, did you ever try to communicate with a direct person? When I said his number, they told me very strictly not to do it, not to have any conversation, not to call from my phone because and I have to leave these I don't know the mechanism of the law I'm not in that business I don't know the mechanism from the media I'm very shy about the media I have to trust their advice because they understood that this is a much more serious matter than just a you know, it's not just a fight or it's much more serious.

How can an actor be media shy? Yes, I need to change that now. I probably need to change that now, but I've been timid because of my own shortcomings. I guess I saw the media, some of them seem strange to me because in some emails, if the images that you posted, you see these emails, the chances are the options are three, actually the options are two, that you are writing these emails to yourself or she is writing the emails pretending, one of us definitely, so one of you needs help, you need it, it could be me, it shouldn't, but me.

As the saying goes, if I've written myself these emails, I definitely need help. One of the emails titled Super Sleepy, written on August 21, I do not show the image. Here is a picture of Kangana, right? and has a picture of Kangana, which is a selfie, this weighs in your favor because I don't understand how someone, whether you are her or pretending to be her, how can the fake you who is pretending to be her take a selfie of Kangana and then post it on Hrithik faking it? to be kundan, I will leave this to the common sense of the people, but the point is not that the point is that the evidence was weighed in your favor, you should have been ahead and taken it to the police, then I have tried it.

I've tried every way I've met anyone who's worked with her I've met her mentors I've met doctors I've met a variety of people I've met some of the biggest stars in the industry to help me What do I do and everything? Most of them expressed deep concern for the two of us that this is not a much more serious problem and that they needed to protect me first for that purpose. I had to give, yes, give all this material for my protection. the police to cybercrime and I couldn't even do that by the way, I couldn't do it for a long time.

I couldn't do that because any act on my part, anything I did, would be considered all these guys attacking again. I'm NOT attacking I'm not here to fight I'm not fighting I've been involved in something I'm not a part of I'm a bystander to what's happening so I had to delay giving all this to the cops for longer than I think, a year and four months. I had to wait until April 2017, when everything calmed down. When did the email stop? The email stopped. Let me continue with my thought. I had to wait. I had to wait to file my complaint. because I wanted it to be done in complete secrecy because this was purely my story that I wanted the police to know in case something untoward happens tomorrow yes, I understand, I will go there, I will reach 2016.

I am asking you for the explicit. direct sexual 3,000 men with a mind you and a story they are not sensual means they are not there they are there offensive to the senses that depends on the senses that is all I can know that you described you do not have to read them Can't you say they are rude , whatever the words are, yes, but what I am saying is that they are not, they are not sensual news, so they are not, it is like I said they were, they have an offensive tone, sexually offensive, offensive to him he feels hmm when stopped the male the male stopped December 11, 2014 I'm really looking at the males here's a male who says I'm also thinking when we're moving when you're moving into your new house baby when your kitchen is ready I want to set it up he tells me would likeTrain your staff to your requirements What do you think I must be thinking when I read this?

These are one-sided mayors, incessant men who talk continuously as if there is interaction, there is another email that says our fiercest, sorry Ratna, you saw a button, it's a great team, ojq cart ahoe, esse, it's like she gives you knew, mmm, I don't know how he could have done it, no one says you hacked it. Email ID and this guy said, how does that make sense? Has no sense. There are many things that have been mentioned. She tells me about the mosquitoes in Bandra. She tells me about what she ate. Anyway, I don't really feel comfortable. talking or explaining when the email stopped, they stopped from December 11 to December 1140, 2014, so the mail started in July 2014 now and they continue with the barrage of emails 1520 per day and suddenly end up in December 2014, what was the last me?

Why did it stop? On December 11, 2014 there was an article in the DNA article that said that the Cognos mystery man was revealed and that morning, now that we have studied the Mail after two years, because I had to make sense of all this before we could understand what to do. with that, I read these emails two years later when they helped me get these meals back and on December 11, when the article came out, that day your email started with a very, very bright note that we're going to spend. our future together the world will know now and he will be very happy and accepted etcetera and during the day he became angry and then abusive during the day and that was the last thing they let us understand, there are all these emails that are trying to tempt him email sexually explicit sent over a period of time and about establishing and living a life together etc etc and suddenly there is an article saying that your missy are the mystery man and then you say the email was abusive the same day it started with a note very bright and then they became abusive and she also mentions that this article is coming out and now we are going to be free and etcetera and throughout the day I think I also tweeted that day and at the end of the day her emails became completely abusive and she ends up saying saying: you know what it was something in Hindi that will mark you for life or something like that.

I'll just read it out loud. What do you want to tell people while we take a little break from the show we're watching? at this and saying that I've never heard a crazier version of what's going on and maybe someone is saying that movie stars are crazy, what would you say? Well, there's no point in judging or accusing. I think the focus now should be on a solution to maybe. To learn some of this is to become more aware about cybercrime, theft or whatever, because I believe that your thieves will no longer come through your door or your door.

I think they can just come in through the air and create havoc in your room. I think it is very very important that people are aware of one of the emails from November 19, 2014 towards the end of this crazy situation that is sending your emails says Topanga Marlena milestone sorry Oh Marc aka carvajal left therapy aah le devoir Oh pacer pertactin milega o vesser be brave in the work of coof, there is a path ahead: account called Mary koe hekia, etcetra, etcetra, nice, she says apne akkad Keiko a lark, a cock or waha from Malaga Dada, you chase nemeth dick etc. it's a trend and she repeats here nahin Tom Scavo Jaya this.

It was a threat now you should have responded at least then you could have gone to the forest why didn't I that's the DI I went to cybercrime and lost my complaint that's the day - cybercrime but I don't know what you have to understand that all this time I'm thinking All this time and this could have been a wild goose chase in my mind, but all this time I keep blaming the imposter. I mean, you never thought she was writing these bills, please understand what Someone hacked into her email account to send these possible no, no, let me explain.

Ron's bouncers say she has been communicating with a guy at H Roshan and sending emails for the past six months. A month later, she starts sending me emails to my correct account. yes, what do I think? I think, oh my gosh, she's extending the relationship she's had with this imposter communication, she's extending it to me now on my right account, so I'm all this while thinking this person doesn't realize what she's doing. doing. so I think she's innocent at that point that's why I'm glad this is all over what I'm feeling how I feel so empathetic whatever I am I'm NOT you anonymous I'm saying this are you saying Hrithik that you In fact , I felt that the imposter had tricked her into believing that she was in a relationship with Hrithik Roshan, unfortunately that is what I thought and that she was the victim of circumstances and continued this relationship with you via email assuming that you were not an imposter in the past was one of the main thoughts in my mind, that's why when I went to cybercrime I filed a complaint against the imposter in which she became a witness.

No, I didn't even attack her. I didn't even mention. her name, of course, they asked more questions and then if they finally found out what it was, did you at any point think that she was behind this, who were these men? Yes, of course, she was planning it, oh, I've tried to look. this and analyze it in 10,000 ways or not in millions of ways. I don't know what the truth is. I really don't know, you really have to ask the person, but hey, you know there's a problem. The problem is that you I say that until 2003 or 14 you still give him the benefit of the doubt thinking that he is I'm upset I'm harassed I feel like I need to do something about it I've been to my friends in the industry I've been to the Commissioner, I'm going through all that at the same time.

I'm also thinking that if she's been communicating with this person for six months and then extends that relationship to me, I have to find this imposter, this guy, whoever she is. If I find out that the case is going on, the case is closed, so you stole for yourself, the villain is the impostor, I didn't come until then, until the villain is the impostor, no, and I have traveled many miles to find this guy, this picture. We're going to hold her and then we can run. She is taking this photo. Our sister is taking this photo as one.

Hold her and then we will graphically show her holding her waist close to her in an extremely intimate pose. Yes. No, sorry, I'm digressing from what we're talking about because of the core of this. I still want to address the question that so that the minds of people on earth know, I remember how to shoot and understand what I want. that you respond to the narrative that you are the lover Remus and mr. Rico taking advantage of a newcomer and a socialite columnist has described him as a megalomaniac who preys on young girls in a small town.

You are rich, sir. rich mr. famous son of a movie star, you know, that's exploding, it doesn't affect me and then this picture comes up and his sister posts this picture saying, Hrithik, where are you? This is proof that you and Kangana were physically intimate. What happened? When did you drink? This photo, well, first of all, when this photo came out the next day, it was exposed, it was exposed by all the other people who were at that party, including my ex-wife, who was a big part of it, not just part of that party. but also part of that same photo you are saying when this photo was taken Suzanne was there she was there along with the laws it is not possible that you and Kangana are taking an intimate photo and your wife is standing next to it because she was in that photo and she had tweeted the next day all my friends tweeted photos the next day of different poses we were doing it was a party we were doing something that was fun at that time it seemed fun to act out posters of these old Hindi movies and we were Dino, Suzanne and me and we were all doing, you know, there was a dino, it's dino Morea, yeah, and there are pictures of all of them doing these surveys, you think you think this was, this was a performance, it wasn't real. t in a performance where we were all having fun, no, but I mean, it says that this is proof of your privacy if you see the photos, the person behind them has been photoshopped and they have removed his arm trying to look like If this was done in a private setting, there were 50 people and a lot more pictures were taken, a lot more pictures of certain poses of old Hindi movie posters, call it what you want, but you know it looked like fun at the time.

It's all very messy. You know, in 2014 it sounds totally messed up. You received threats. They are blackmailing you. They tell you that they will be scarred for life. You do not answer. My only question repeatedly is what it does. What can't be summarized is that either you are very empathetic or you are very understanding, but in reality you don't even consider her a villain, you are fighting in your own mind and in an imaginary impostor order, or an impostor instead of summoner, yes, well, I have learned I have learned my mistakes 2015 Hritik is when all the media goes crazy about your relationship with Kangana now it is taking a different dimension tell me about 2050 what do you want to know I want to know what happened in the media there were stories About you two I want to know yes it's true and this is what I heard: you actually met another actress.

She had a movie about the premiere of the movie and you asked her why they didn't invite you to the premiere of the movie you were told. that you yeah, the person you're having a relationship with told you I won't take any names, I won't take any names, but tell us about 2015 because that happened in 2002, a lot of things happened, the harassment was limited to my inbox. Now it was slowly and I thought it was over when on December 11th when I got the last mail, whatever it was, the DNA story came out and I thought, "Okay, now it's over because I didn't get any more meters after that, yeah , so I said." In fact, I felt like I did the right thing.

I walked my teeth. I wasn't shaken enough to react with a flap of my wings. I did the right thing. I filed a complaint against the impostor and now this had AZ and I got it. It was proven that yes, ignorance is sometimes the best way to deal with intrusions like this because I discouraged all this action from you know, January, February, March 2015. Little by little, I started meeting people who made these jokes and included to the lady like you know you know. How is the old

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I continued creating, concentrating on my work. I rarely met some very big names, some actors, whom I asked. You know it was. I really wanted to see the trial of your film, but you know you didn't call me and you should have called me. and the person said I wanted to call you but I couldn't because your girlfriend stopped me I was like girlfriend I don't have a girlfriend and the person said the name of the lady I would say the lady the lady why don't you consider yourself a convener you have a problem even now you are not naming behavior doesn't matter well then they said they stopped you know who I'm talking about I'm talking about then then they said your girlfriend stopped me, her name came up and I was absolutely shocked with uh with uh with a desperate desire to make this other person believe that nothing of this is true.

I can't understand it and what hit me and what shocked me was that I was failing because This person was almost convinced and that scared me. It scared me that the people this person was talking to were becoming convinced and it was spreading everywhere. Slowly there were articles in the newspapers. Hrithik Kangana was going strong with a Kangna to join us. thickened in the Maldives, etcetera, etcetera, I was filming mohenjo-daro in Butch and the producer's wife told me I think you gave him a ring because you have to be here three three four months, so you gave it to him. a ring and I was just nervous because there was this, you know, incessant need to prove to myself who these people are, just, you know, nothing's happening and then in doing that, I felt how weak you were.

You constantly use words like shaken, scared, vulnerable, yes I felt all those things but they were good things because they also taught me to be strong, they also taught me to walk my truth, what are you afraid of coming out because? You are a man I'm sorry, what are you afraid to tell the truth because you are a man today? I'm not afraid because, but that's it, he said on my program the other day and just to complete this a lawyer came. my show and she said you know a man legally can't be detained yeah I don't know the

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You were afraid to come out because you felt like your people would judge you as a man and someone else is a woman and there's a certain one-sided narrator moment where when I used to talk to people I could see myself there was a desperation in my state because try to explain to them and that state is not agraceful state, it's not it's not it's strength it's weakness when you when your sense of your own identity depends on another person's perception and I was falling into that I was afraid of being judged I was afraid and then I had to stop I said I'm going to stop this I am NOT going to try to convince this person of that person and people have four more faults they have judged me they have made comments to me I had to sit down with my children and explain to them if they are made fun of at school.

I had to go through all that, but I am NOT the victim. I don't want to sit here and give you an impression of what I went through and how difficult it was. I love that it was. difficult because I learned some amazing things along my journey and those are the things I will teach my children throughout 2015. This happened, how are you Mr. Mr. Khan, if I may say so, I am motivated, I am being cheerful about it, that's the perception that exists in 2015, yes, then in 2016 you file a police report, take me to the timeline of what happened, what was that breaking point? where you first filed a police report in 2000, yes, and this is information and composite material about them.

This is an important question because I've heard some strange questions and you know why he reacted to dumb X if and if he reacts to dumb thereto. No, the specific question here is which one is not, this is a question I have. I've heard what's circulating out there. I just want to clarify to clarify that of course, thank you if you call me an abusive word and I protest. Does that mean I'm accepting that I am what you're calling me? How does it make sense anyway? ex fool was the first time this harassment was made public first was in the harassment was in my inbox i was able to deal with it i can deal with it it's aboutfocus I have learned throughout my life how to focus on the best things and beautiful of life.

I can deal with it, so the people around me started talking. I became desperate. I stopped. I didn't like that state of my state. It's a strong state and I said I'm going to stop, let them judge, okay, I'm going to walk with my truth and continue creating, I could handle that, then it came out to the public, the harassment became public and by saying celiac. The person didn't just make it clear that there was a relationship because she was saying it or why she would say it. She named you. My name was in the question.

My name was in the question. Then she was responding for the first time. that Hrithik Roshan took you out of a film called Aashiqui 3 that was non-existent and what do you have to say about it - that she said something like I don't know why these dumb exes do such things. moved on, he should move on too, so not only did she need the fact that we were in a relationship, but she also turned me into that mean boyfriend who can't let go when he tries to get back, you know, that's your friend and she's the one. worthy moving on I saw this and I remember I had a broken foot at the time I'm a very physical person restless and I was restricted to my bed and I'm looking at all of this all piled up you have to I understand I've had two years behind that silly comment of my ex, yeah right, two years of travel, yeah, behind that and I thought I had to do something about it.

That's when I try to communicate through my manager. III. The managers tried, they even tried. I called Rangoli, she picked up the phone and disconnected it when she realized who she was, it was someone from my team. I tried all that. I tried to talk to people who knew her. Could you have access to it? I even called Sajid Nadiadwala. I took some time, sent my manager there, etc., except I said nothing was working and I said this when looking at the evidence of this, one day this is going to explode on me. I had that instinct and I had to do something about it.

I called. I called my lawyers and told them what I can do and by which I can at least inform her family members. Can I write you a letter? What if they don't know this is happening? So my lawyer said write the letter. in a notice and I will send it to them so that they also know that it is strong, we have to put them on the defensive, so the notice that I sent, if you read, it is almost in my words because I am trying to explain to them, I have also attached some emails that They're trying to show you that your daughter mentioned that you said this, I'm sorry, she said the notice contained appearances, well, yeah, I mean, I didn't send it to you myself, but I had it sent.

I also attached some emails that described how she talked about herself and a disorder. Do parents know about this? It's true? Worry and they will do something about it, so now a legal notice is not a threat. A legal notice is the most civilized way to tell someone watching, you've trampled on me for two years, please stop or I'll have to go to the designated location. institution the law of the land that is built to protect me I DO NOT want to fight with you. I just ask you to stop doing it. It was counterproductive because Lloyd, what my lawyers very expressly told me is illegal and keep in mind that this document is private. the media can't use it and that's why I sent it maybe they made a mistake or they did it in amazement or the media doesn't know they feel it's important to follow that rule oh I don't even know if there's room but this is what it was I told him and sent the notice and it was completely counterproductive because that part started saying that he is calling me angry.

I'm not calling you angry. I don't even know you, you can be a wonderful person, why are you doing this to me? I've gotten letters from parents all over the world telling me that not only am I a dumb, mean boyfriend, but I'm also stupid because I don't know what Asperger's syndrome is. I have not claimed that you have Asperger's. In an email that you sent me and that I made part of that letter of mine and I sent you so that your parents read this, everything I did was counterproductive, every thing, every move I made was counterproductive, it left me no choice. but to finally decide I'm done with this, judge me.

I mean, what a beautiful story it would be if I could walk through my truth and see if it catches me. He had to tell me a good story. I had to tell myself and empowering story, you know, the sum total up to this point is for two years and now I'm going to be honest with you, for two years you're being foolish and then when you get called foolish acts, that's your time. for two years, don't even blame her completely, you think there are some positives I can handle. You think she's going through some psychological problems because he believes the impostor led her into a relationship with critics he ignores, but the moment you work out all the foolish acts that were the Epiphany moment for you, that's when you started to calculate and to say maybe you were wrong in your own evaluation of her, yes, yes, and I was wrong, I was wrong, I should have been aggressive from the beginning and I will be aggressive now.

I know now, what do you mean you will be in my entire experience in my life? Like I said, I'm not a confrontational person. I have to be. I have to learn that that is also a strength. I'm not. and maybe that's my defect. I don't usually interview movie stars. I'm telling you, I've maybe interviewed a handful in my life. I have never met anyone from the world of cinema who has ever told me in an interview that they are afraid of that. They are vulnerable who are afraid and I am not making generalizations but let me tell you one thing about people in the world of cinema, they put on a veneer and no one talks about their weaknesses because they think about the impact that acceptance of weakness has.

They will have a small detour door in their cinematographic personalities. I think as we talk now, do you ever worry that now that Hrithik Roshan is speaking openly on television on Republic and talking about fears, vulnerability, he is afraid that he has made mistakes, how to deal with all this? this will have an impact on the superstar that you are on television because you know that's how I what about the superstar image that's okay what do you mean it's okay first a human being and I'm not going to be shy or apologize for it? my emotions every person is afraid of his vulnerability.

I have learned this the hard way and have had to accept my vulnerability. I've had to accept that I'm NOT that strong, maybe I'm not that strong and at least that's okay. I don't pretend to be strong because if you pretend to be strong that's not strength it's seeing it's stronger to accept it's stronger to accept that it did make me cry it's stronger to accept that it affected my well-being it's stronger to accept that there were times when I was completely helpless I had to accept it at some point I had the belief that the people who tell who told me so confidently that we think what are you doing what are you doing this is good for you this is good for you you know it will make you your good boy you will have a image a bit of a bad boy it's good you get more and more attractive or you're such a big star you give this relevance it's I'm going to take you as low as this mmm keep going man look at you you're a huge star and I kept trying to join That started well in my head, but there was a difference, the human being that I was, I couldn't, I couldn't.

I didn't put the two together and realized I'm not a star. I'm not a star. I am a human being who is an actor. I work, I work hard and I try to teach my children good things, that's why maybe I feel very uncomfortable when I'm on stage when the first time I went on stage my legs were shaking. I had to wear two pairs of pants so this whole superstar star that's an illusion it's an illusion why you have to look at the truth Who am I and what is my truth and am I doing what I have to do to make me for my well-being?

People go into depression because they can't express themselves because there are stars and they are afraid, so they will do it. They'll keep pretending like you know I'm cool, you know everything's fine and stuff, but inside, when they're alone in their house, they're depressed and they don't have anyone to talk to, that's why you have so many cases around you. The world, who is this amazing? There are those who have just committed suicide because they could not get close because they were afraid of appearing weak at some point. Everyone must understand that being a superstar is given, it is given, it is a gift. of people you don't have to wear it in your head and start pretending that you're the king, you're not your worker like all of them, so I had to do it, I had to do it, it took me time, I pretended for a long time it belonged here in school, school, but finally I had to accept the truth and when did you break up?

Now you find another police report. No, that wasn't a snap. There was a well thought out window that we found because my express instructions were that this was to be done in complete secrecy. I don't want a show. I don't want the media to find out. I need to find a window so I couldn't do it while I was in Kabul. I couldn't do it while his movie Rangoon Rangoon was believable, so I had to find a window when everything was so that you wanted to file a police report at a time when there was nothing that could affect you or there really is nothing.

I'm sorry. but it's extremely generous of you to think that your police guesses are out of sync with their movie it's really smart because of my intention my intention was not to attack my intention was look what can I do right I can't solve this no one can help me that's right Okay, what? what can I do to help myself? Well, I can protect myself by handing over everything I have to the police for my own protection in case something happens tomorrow and I will be before them if they blame me anymore. Oh, the police need to do it.

I know my whole story, who, so my complaint is a narrative of this whole story, the way it happened, the way it happened with every detail and the emails, and I gave it to you, that's the best way I They do it and then, again and again, I remain silent. From this, I was scanning the stigma of this disgusting man, but I closed myself off from this topic and said: "Now I will continue to build better, I will create more and everything will be fine in the lead-up to his last film." Yes, he gave an interview to a Hindi news channel in which he went into laborious details about his relationship with her.

Did you see that interview? Have you seen that yes? I saw one and what was your reaction at first. As I said, after filing the complaint, I put it out of my mind and said that whatever happens now, I'm not going to be affected, I'm just going to continue on my way. When I saw this, I started laughing, it made me laugh, and then, little by little, I I could tell this was going to blow up again because she was so convincing. I was just inside. I couldn't understand how she was so convincing if she was lying and then I spoke to doctor mr.

Dr. Harry Shetty, who explained how that could be possible and I understood it and still allowed it. I knew this would affect me for a few days. I've handled it in the past. I'll keep going. I had no intention of reacting to this in all ridiculous ways, she has used you as a prop for publicity purposes before movies because you can use her somewhat countless references to your relationship with her, care

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Does she cross your mind? What if people don't believe you? I have walked for years with people who don't believe me. I know, but it's not like that. It doesn't matter anymore I have learned to walk my truth it is taking me time I have learned and if people are going to make this a public speaking battle I am NOT a public speaker it is not what I specialize in I am not good at it so yes that is the factor determinant, well then I guess you could also have a dance and determine the job and the truth about who wins there, all we have to look at is truth versus lies and again I say this: I'm not here. accuse or belittle someone or, you know, throw accusations.

I'm only here because I finally know I need to stand up for myself in this. I need to close this chapter. I probably need to create some awareness that something like this could happen and then act. What happens if she doesn't close it? Okay, you said you would respond to aggression. What if she becomes aggressive? She's fine, what if what would you say to her? Because presumably we're supposed to assume that she would be watching this right now and she would be looking at you like a cliché question, but if Kangana is watching this, what would you say to her directly?

No. I think if I have the opportunity to talk to her I will tell her what I think, but not here. This is national. TV is not only going to go to her but I will if I have the chance I will go but are you willing to let police complaints go I investigated the matters I will go to court like I said oh no I am not here to fight for once I want to speak my truth and that's it "Is there anything else I can do and not just tell my truth? I never want to be in a situation like him," she said. "She said because that's as embarrassing as what's been happening.

I'm not here to do that and I know that through this interview you He has asked me questions that have prompted me to give him a narrative but this is not my this is not my intention my intention is not he said she said I don't go by my words and I want to say this to people don't go by my words Don't trust me you have no reason to trust me all I'm saying is go by the evidence that's a small point of disagreement. I'm NOT trying to get you into a narrative if I've just taken you through a timeline we started in 2000.

I just hope it doesn't escalate. Just I like it. I just hope they don't misinterpret this as you already know. now he's saying this now you know he's, I'm not, I'm not here to do that, I'm not here to, you know, fight, I'm like I said, I'm, no, I've never had a fight in my entire life I don't think in that if people think I'm cool if people don't think I'm cool I know where my journey takes me and that's where I'll go and I'll manifest eventually I'll manifest exactly the person I am because that's the equation of the universe in which I believe and it's true because it's my premise, yes, for me it's true, yes, so I will manifest what exactly I am over time, so I'm not afraid, you know, I always reticle.

I give my opinion, I always judge, I always give my perspective on this, actually, if not because, as I started by saying, this television medium is a very transparent medium and you are as close and personal in this conversation as you have been, I think the people will do it. I came to the right conclusion and I also appreciate the fact that you have not launched any personal attack on her and for your frankness, for your restraint and most importantly I must say to Hritik for being the first film and television star who did not has worried. about expressing her vulnerabilities on television I must thank you very much, are you afraid of my last question about victim shaming?

You know they say this only happens to women, but in your case, were you scared when you came out and said Congress is harassing me? When my age in felony, your lawyer made it public and said that Kangana was harassing him. Were you afraid, when all this started, that it could go terribly wrong for you because because you said you were being harassed? I think that's the situation. terminology you have to use for what has happened again. I haven't expressed my opinion on what you know what this means, but like I said, I'm never a victim in my mind, no matter what label is put on.

First they call me a superstar maybe then they call me a megalomaniac then they call me oh he's being a victim I have to know what I am I'm NOT a victim I'm not a victim and I could be one I could use that maybe because I know what I've been through past, but whether this had the power to make me a very cynical man or not, it would have the power to make me a very bitter man, but I knew in my heart that I can't allow that. Because a cynical man cannot create a cynical and bitter father, he cannot teach his children about the wonder and beauty of life.

I had to endure that anger. I had to endure helplessness and somehow had to mold it into a form of love and compassion. try and even contribute to whoever is willing for me to contribute to them, yes it is very difficult to do, you know, laugh at a person's joke, however funny it is if you find that person disgusting, yes, he had the power to exclude me . my own mind for a sense of community, yes, that is a very, very dangerous thing, dangerous for the mind. I had to be aware, I had to catch it in time, a human being is a social game without a sense of community, you will just wither away.

I had to be very aware of that and sometimes I had to just stand up and clap my hands and build on my experiences, think of things that I could do that could contribute to this or that person no matter what they thought of me. let me at least do my thing let me let me infect my children as much as I can let me let me if we go on vacation let me let me think of the most incredible experiences that come to mind in my imagination so it was a great exercise, a great exercise for me imagination, yes, it was a great exercise to sit and imagine myself in five years and the kind of person I will be, even if I walk this path knowing that people are judging me as this disgusting man but in five years of walking down This road I used to live in an ivory Imagine look into my eyes I walked this part Oh yeah, I would be a stronger person, I would be a wiser person I would receive so many wonderful things to teach my children.

Glad to hear it. I wish you the best, Hrithik. I wish your family the best. Thank you, please wish them for me. Iris and I'm glad we talked. Thank you for the first time in my life. I have not made a written judgment but you spoke in your heart I think people will know the truth Thank you redic it is wonderful to talk to you thank you very much