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Film Theory: Spiderman vs Spiderman Battle Royale!

May 01, 2020
Now we return to the continuing adventures of Theory Man! "Help! He stole my bag!" I can't help you there, but did you know that Ant-Man could have saved half the universe by crawling up Thanos' anus? Oh, mmm. Thank you? Theoretical man out! Once again, he has saved the day. Thanks,

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man. Thank you. Hello Internet, welcome to Film Theory, where today we have an episode that is sure to make all your Peters cringe. For two decades, we've been inundated with Spider-Man. Movies, series, video games and so many memes. This summer's release of Spider-Man: Far From Home gives us our third live-action Spider-Man movie franchise in just 17 years.
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So, as our universe, not to mention the rest of the multiverse, approaches full Spidey saturation, it's time to find out once and for all who wins the Spider-Man Battle Royale. Which Spidey reigns supreme? First, let's establish our ground rules and clarify what this video is and what it is not. This is a comparison of the observable and measurable Spider powers demonstrated on screen by our beloved webhead. Only Spider-Man feature

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s released in theaters will be considered. This is not a popularity contest nor is it a Best Actor contest nor is it a Best Hair contest because let's be honest, that's not a contest at all.
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Andrew Garfield, you have extraordinary hair. And what we answer today is pretty simple: "Which Spidey would win in a head-to-head fight?" Three franchises, three Spider-Man. Tobey Maguire's Peter Parker in Sam Raimi's Spider-Man trilogy. Andrew Garfield's Peter Parker in Marc Webb's "The Amazing Spider-Man" franchise. And now, Tom Holland as the MCU's Golden Boy, Peter Parker. In our theoretical Battle Royale, everyone will fight in their standard suit. That means Tobey Maguire's character doesn't have to fight in his homemade human spider costume, but he doesn't get the black symbiote suit either. Likewise, Tom Holland's Spider-Man doesn't have to wear his homemade costume, but he also won't have access to the Iron-Spider suit or the Stealth-Spider suit that appear in "Far From Home." Our goal here is to eliminate as many variables as possible so that we can judge them based solely on their manhood.
film theory spiderman vs spiderman battle royale
Our Spider-Man will be judged in three categories: strength, web and agility. What Spider-Sense necessarily takes into account. From those three categories, which ideally summarize the essentials of any good Spider-Man in

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situations, we will be able to determine which Spider-Man reigns supreme. Round 1! Strength! This is actually a pretty easy category because movies give us very clear data to work with. It's really amazing. It's kind of nice to not have to backdoor our way into these things for a change. Our three Spider-Men in their respective

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s basically do the equivalent of Hercules' Bastion from the World's Strongest Man competition. (OK) Toby with the train at full speed, Tom with a ferry cut in half and Andrew with a car hanging from a bridge.
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So what super impressive feat is most super impressive in the immortal words of Olivia Newton-John or, more accurately, for our case, the immortal words of Newton comma Sir Isaac, "Let's Get PHYSICS-AL" *mat funny:| *Associate Professor Michael Milford and Queensland University of Technology researcher Juck C.Lightner addressed the Hercules Hold moment from Spider-Man: Homecoming by determining that Tom Holland's character applied a force of over 31,000,000 Newtons to hold that ferry United. Which he managed to do by himself for about six seconds before Ironman finally arrived and rescued him. Now that's a lot of Newtons, but is it more impressive than Toby Maguire's famous train stop scene in Spider-Man 2?
To determine how many Newtons Toby's character applied, let's refer to Newton's second law of motion, shall we? Which tells us that the force exerted by Spider-Man is equal to the mass of the train multiplied by the speed at which he stops the trains. A New York subway car weighs about 33,000 kilograms and the train shown in the scene actually has six cars. Shots inside the car suggest the train is about half full. Which means that the weight of the six cars plus the weight of the passengers inside will be approximately 241,578 kilograms in total. So, my friends, that is our mass.
As for our acceleration or, in this case, deceleration, we see Toby's character take the train from exactly 80 MPH to 0 MPH in 47 seconds. That means the deceleration rate will be 0.752 meters per second ^2 Plug this into the formula and we get 182,000 newtons of force, which is much less than what Tom Hollands Spider-Man had to exert. I mean, let's give Toby. The character gets some credit for pushing his body to the limit for 47 grueling seconds compared to Tom Holland's relatively cheerful 6 seconds, but there's no way around it, Tom Holland's Spider-Man exerted over 170 times as much force in his Hercules Hold.
Tom's Spider-Man is definitely the stronger of these two. So where does Andrew Garfield's Spider-Man fit in? At first glance, holding a 2011 Chrysler Town and Country while dangling over a bridge doesn't seem as impressive as stopping a train, and even if you don't know it, it's not. The Town and Country has a curb weight of 4,652 pounds, but let's even call it 4,800 with a child inside plus any personal items the family might have in the trunk. Andrew's character is pulling directly against the direction of gravity, so we can easily use Newton's second law of motion once again to determine the force involved in Andrew's Hercules grip.
Which is equivalent to approximately 21,000 Newtons. Now, that's a far cry from the strength that Tom and Toby were exerting. Also, Andrew's grip finally gives way just after 40 seconds. Get well Andrew Garfield. So, Tom Holland and the MCU's Spider-Man wins the strength category in a landslide. He gets three points, Toby gets two points for second place and Andrew gets one point for last place, but a point in my heart for that beautiful hair. Next, Webbing. It is not only Spider-Man's weapon of choice, but also his means of transportation. So, webbing is going to play a huge role in any fight between Spider-Man and Spider-Man.
Which of our three Spider-Men has the best and most versatile web? Spoiler alert! It's Tom Holland's Spider-Man and it's not even close. Spider-Man in the MCU has the Tony Stark Advantage™ when it comes to webs. 576 pre-loaded web shooter combinations: Sticky-web, Ricochet-web, Taser-web, Stun-web, Spider tracers, Rapid-fire, Web grenades, Web Wings WEB WINGS PEOPLE There are no two ways around it. Tom's character wins the web war and has Tony Stark to thank for it. So now it's just a

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for second place position. Andrew Garfield's web is also man-made. However, the downside to this is that he could run out of net fluid or become separated from the net launchers from him while he is in battle.
The advantage is that he can modify the web formula of it and make it impervious to electricity, for example. However, it's hard to imagine electricity playing a major role in a fight between Spider-Man and Spider-Man. So who knows how beneficial this improvement we see in the movies would be for our purposes in today's episode. Meanwhile, in Toby's case, his network is created in vivo. He is not able to manipulate his organic networks, but the good thing is that he will never run out. Except on the rare occasions where he gets like, you know, super sad and stuff.
But as impressive as Toby's train scene is as a demonstration of his strength, it might be even more impressive because of his networks. They're all on full display in a way that Andrew Garfield's web never is in the Amazing Spider-Man movies and if Andrews Peter Parker had made a stretchier web maybe Stacy would have had a softer landing at the end of The Amazing Spider-Man. -Man. 2, so Tom Holland wins the straps category hands down and gets another three points to give second place to Tobey Maguire for that limitless organic web that's practically the equivalent of a real spider, which once again leaves Andrew Garfield's Amazing Spider-Man once. again in the final position it looks like Tom is running away with this thing, but that's fast, there is a final category to discuss agility, we will use agility as a general category for Spider-Man's agility, speed and time of reaction, of which the spider's sense is important.
Part one, let's acknowledge a couple of agility similarities between our three Spider-Men, all three look more or less able to avoid bullets, praise and all three Peter Parkers have similar foot speed, believe me. I went through the images of their races frame by frame and they are all there. just within a few miles per hour of each other, nothing too important to merit mentioning here, but reaction time is where Spider-Man really starts to differentiate because not all spider senses are created equal. Let's start by acknowledging that the three Peter Parkers. They have sporadic use of their spider sense, at best everyone seems to understand it only a fraction of the time, causing them to be surprised by things like this and this and this, but when they use their spider sense it's a metric that can totally be used as a comparison in Tobey Maguire's first Spider-Man movie.
There's a really useful sequence where we see his spider-sense in action from Peter Parker's point of view. The fly in particular is useful because we know that a house fly flaps its wings at approximately 200 times per second. From Peter Parker's point of view, that fly flaps its wings twice in two point six to five seconds, which means that his spider sense is helping him see the world approximately 260 times slower than real time, since for Tom Holland's character there is very little. evidence that his spider sense or Peter Tingle is very useful when it comes to reaction time, for example in Infinity War his spider sense only tingles after Thanos, his ship, has already arrived on Planet Earth in a point where any normal kid on the bus would look out the window and see this, so Peter's tickling seems to be more of a state of alertness than an ability to experience the world in slow motion and react to life much faster. , since for Andrew Garfield his reaction times seem to enhance the bite of the host spider, I mean, catching a fly in the air is pretty cool, but it also doesn't necessarily mean that he's seeing the world in slow motion to the extent that Toby's character does, that being said, there is an argument.
Andrews' spider sense is arguably much better than anyone we've ever seen in a movie. Consider this scene where he is literally dodging bolts of electricity. Visible lightning travels at about one-third the speed of light or 220 billion miles per hour, so dodging an electrical bolt is obviously much more impressive than, say, seeing the world at 260 times slower than usual, but the surprising part about Amazing Spiderman is the fact that he is actively dodging those electric beams or that the electro just has itself. a serious case of stormtrooper help, let's look at those slow motion clips again, if we go frame by frame we see that Spider-Man is looking at Electro before the lightning bolt takes a hit.
We also see that he doesn't make any dodge moves until after Bolt passes beneath him, it seems fair to attribute this to Electro's poor aim or, more accurately, the inconsistent CGI work of the people working on this movie, but wait, Andrew he's not depressed yet, but he's still sure he could benefit from Electro's poor aim in this scene, but in another scene we have a moment similar to Tobey Maguire's Fly Andrew: he sees the world in a slower state where he performs a Jimmy Neutron's brain explosion and predicts the movements of the electricity foreseeing that it will go up the handrails and eventually hurt the civilians who reach them, we then see him able to react accordingly to protect them clearly, this means that he is faster than the electricity and therefore the fastest of all our possible Spider-Man, well, yes and no, you see. it's certainly faster than electricity, the problem here is that it's faster than the electricity from the electrodes and when you actually stop and do the math in these scenes, this stuff is actually a surprisingly slow pun, it was definitely intended .
This panel will be held at the TKTS booth in New York City's Times Square. The top of this iconic staircase is 45 feet wide and we see Electro's electricity travel to the center of that railing in exactly ten frames for a film running at 24 frames per second, that's five twelfths of a second to travel. Twenty-two and a half feet extrapolating. If we pull out that math, we see that Electro's beam actually travels at the astonishing speed of thirty-six point eight miles.per hour and when I say amazing I mean amazingly slow, I mean it's a little faster than me driving through a school, but clearly it's not even close. to the billions of miles of real lightning and it's still significantly slower than the flapping of flies' wings, sorry Andrew Garfield, I tried, I just can't justify giving you the win here, fly snatching is without certainly more impressive than anything Tom Holland displays.
Although the totals have already been counted, can we get a drum roll please? Okay, if that's the best you got, in third place with four points, we have Andrew Garfield, Spider-Man's gold star for being smart and scientific and everything, but this is nothing. gold star contest like it's not a best hair contest, just get over it, look at the volume of that hair, no wonder she's a movie star, they were just humble youtubers. Next up with seven points, we have a two-way tie. First of all, that's right, we all thought the table was going to run away with this thing.
But it turns out Toby has the grip strength to barely hold on, so there you have it folks in the Battle of Spider-Man, there is no winner. clear. We dug into the exam data and no clear winner could wait a minute. My theoretical tickle is. Going crazy, I feel like a lot of you are screaming at your screams right now because there is a Spider-Man movie that I haven't mentioned yet, it's a full-length Spider-Man movie, it was released in theaters and although it's not part of . of a franchise, it should be considered according to the rules I laid out above that the movie is, of course, Spider-Man in the Spiderverse, but how do we compare the animated characters in the Spiderverse to the live-action characters in the franchise?
Actually, easily because one of our live-action Spider-Men actually crosses into the Spiderverse or at least one of his multiverse counterparts crosses into the Spiderverse. Look, there's a compelling

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that Tobey Maguire's Peter B Parker is the exact same Peter B Parker. a spider-verse meme and the theory is supported by the fact that the producers at one point considered casting Tobey Maguire as the voice of Peter B Parker. I mean, it's come out since after the movies came out that Peter B Parker in the movie isn't actually. the same spider-man that we see in the Sam Raimi movies, but he's definitely going through the same kind of adventures and life experiences, so even though he's not exactly the same, he's pretty much a multiverse stand-in for himself, so which, by the transitive equality property that would mean that Peter B Parker from the Spider-verse is equal to Tobey Maguire's Spider-Man from Sam Raimi's trilogy, which would then also be equal to Tom Holland's MCU Spider-Man, They're all relatively the same Spider-Man, so if we want to know how Toby and Tom would compare to the other Spideys and in the Spider-Verse, all we have to do is look at how Peter Beep Parker compares, first let's look at Penny.
Parker and Spider Mob in their spider verse performance. We know enough about this duo to not give them the win despite being highly ranked on all the usual Spider-Man comparison lists. Spider is a failure in the Spider-verse and ends up being the only Spidey character defeated in the final group battle as far as Spider-Gwen goes. -man Noir and spider cam don't necessarily prove to be stronger than Peter B Parker during the final fight, or the three of them fight bravely and at least survived the final battle, but Peter B Parker does it too no matter how much he wants to give. this win for spider-ham I just can't these three cameos Spidey just didn't have big enough roles in spider-verse to separate himself from the rest of the field sorry but da da da da that's all folks however thousands gives us There is a lot to work with throughout this film, he directly confronts Peter B Parker, who remembers that we have established that our character Tobey Maguire is standing miles away, his invisibility allows him to bring out the best in Doc Ock, while Peter B Parker is easily captured. for her plus, Miles successfully steals Peter B Parker's goober without him knowing later in the movie, Miles in Peter B Parker does so while fighting Kingpin and in the end, Miles proves that he is a better fighter by getting the best of Peter.
Miles faces off against an older, out-of-shape Peter B Parker, but the flip side is that Miles has only possessed his powers for a few days, at this point he hasn't had time to properly hone his abilities and reach his full potential. seems more than fair when considering Peter B. Parker's old age compared to Miles' inexperience, so in the end Peter B Parker, who is as strong a Spider-Man as our live-action options have to offer, is outmatched by Miles Morales in a direct head-to-head confrontation and that can only mean one thing: Miles Morales wins in a battle

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against all the different Spider-Men.
Tobey Maguire and Tom Holland may represent the strongest Peter Parker in cinema, but Peter Parker is no match for Miles Morales. the strongest spider-man in all the movies just goes to show that the best spider-man movie also contains the best spider-man, but hey, that's just a theory, a movie theory and if you want to see more spider-man content, check out If you see this video on the left where I break down the physics of Spider-Man's deadly web slinging, it turns out that Spider-Man should have died multiple times regardless of his super strength or while you're here be sure to click the button the right to subscribe and with that I'm leaving next week, let's take a break from superheroes, okay?

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