Federico Jiménez Losantos entrevista a Santiago Abascal

With Santiago Abascal, very good morning, very good morning, we are not going to go into the subject, what Carlos Iturgáiz said yesterday about Santiago Abascal, if he is a wonderful person, calm down, Abascal, we are not with a point because his fingers do not have a wonderful person either. that to achieve the total wonder but lack of being you were president of the new generations of the pp with iturgáiz as president yes indeed and we have a lot of affection for each other as evidence of those statements by Carlos and I think the same about him I have a great affection for Carlos Iturgáiz It is true that he only has one problem and that is that he is in the PP, which is a party that lately does not act as a national party and well, despite everything, I wish him all the luck but I have lived moments with Carlos Iturgáiz very hard and I always felt supported by him when he was in charge of the youth in a very difficult moment and he was a very brave president of the Basque PP in the worst moments.

You understand even though he is now at the moment, let's say at the apex of the glory that for those of us who have voted, you citizens and pp of the three parties that defend the nation and the constitution by not defending in their own way but are outgoing to the government to the separatist popular front bloc are the ones that at the level of all of Spain It is not the way Asturias has its merit Navarra adds even more merit but evidently there are three parties that when we come to talk about the Basque country where the situation cannot be worse for Spain and for freedoms we see with a nostalgia not without irritation that there is no way That you agree is more than when finally to agree you have had to throw out Alfonso Alonso to agree a little the PP and citizens who do not count on you who are also from there that they have known each other all their lives that the few that there are will be very few because the situation could not be worse in Navarra and especially the Basque country than that we see that there is no way nor is there any possibility of a future and reach electoral agreements from which in the end comes the strength of The political parties, I was listening to you these days and they were precisely thinking about that word that you just uttered in nostalgia, but I believe that this desire no longer responds to box, a party different from the PP, and citizens, they wanted to make it very clear because in fact they govern together.

In Andalusia, in Murcia and in Madrid, where they did not want Box to be part of the governments, they have reached an agreement with citizens. Box has not called anyone. Now, if they call Box to talk about outlawing separatist parties, I will no longer to say about ending the autonomous state, which is the maximum boxing program, to recover essential competencies for the state, to question that injustice, that privilege, which is the economic concert, asks to contain illegal immigration in places like Basque English where there is a great concern because we are willing to talk but they have not called us on the contrary the pp has been able to reach an agreement in the congress with the socialist party and how can we divide the presidencies of 33 parliamentary commissions and they have not been able to reach an agreement agreement between them, for example, to avoid a communist government but to exclude vox so that box does not have representation so that box because a party that they understand is an electoral competition has no possibilities or has less visibility if they quickly come to an agreement then it has hurt me I think that it is excessively obsolete because as they are young as parties they say that this annoys the parliamentary groups a lot one hundred euro parties and that also probably the same thing would have happened even if they had wanted something else because they had a majority of the psoe but well but on the other hand you are in a moment of strength, citizens are in a moment of weakness, it would not be logical for you to be the ones who do not wait for them to call you but rather you will begin to see that in the future, just as things are beginning to be drawn, there will be two forces: the force of boxing and the strength of the pp and citizens who are necessarily going to have to agree if they ever want to win something because if not there is no way as long as there are 40 or more who are separatist deputies favored by draconian electoral laws plus all the televisions etc.

That's why they have a very difficult time. They don't believe that the time has come for Box to grow up. That is, you have already made your debut in parliament. You have shown that you are great parliamentarians. After Ribera, you are the first repeater because the other day he was better. that married because suddenly he did more and synthesized more that it was an art that had a edge and that there are few politicians who have it but he does not have the feeling that the right-wing voter does not transmit to you the sensation if he still transmits narco that That is difficult because the president almost no one transmits anything to him.

It has been a while except what he feels is that it is time for Box to start acting as one of the two important parties on the right, not as the party that has to save Spain. etc. but as one of the two parties that would first have to save the center-right as an electoral force and then would have to see if it reaches the government because I believe that haste is not a good advisor. I was not in any personal hurry to launch, in fact, I am not enthusiastic about it. the tribune of the Congress and I say that haste is not a good advisor because we have had general elections on November, three months have actually passed, four short months but three very hard months but in a legislature several in three months that other entities have done well and the What will they do because we are and I am going to insist on it before an illegitimate government, an illegitimate government that is on its way to becoming an illegal government vice-presidented by an individual who is dedicated to threatening the opposition who yesterday, like someone who didn't say anything, said what if the Married man ends up in jail and begins to fantasize about putting political opponents in jail or for his wife, Mrs.

Montero, who yesterday viciously attacked the absolutely extraordinary boxing deputies, saying that as long as they govern they are going to educate the sons of boxing will be above us but well what we are going to do well it must be said that with what we have known the grandfather of Pablo Iglesias as his father publicist of the Franco regime of the most radical of the most blue mahón of the social security of frank and also in matters of sexuality of the persecutors and we found out this Sunday that this Mr. Iglesias, the grandson, it turns out, presented the grandfather to us as a kind of martyr of the extreme left, it turns out that he was to the right of gamero of the castle that was to the right of Giron de Velasco, well, they are the fakers, it is true that they fantasize about putting us all in jail, let them be calm, for example, Eduardo Inda would also join in that fantasy, but the truth is that the party socialist has practically disappeared for political purposes that is to say the entire political agenda of the government the political project is that of we can essentially including the morning power separate us in others completely and also that it has turned the situation around after a month ago They laughed at him, he has made him vice president but between 14 and he is at the movies and yesterday even Felipe González was amazed but how can he be in the cde then he is there and I return to the question he says haste is bad advisors okay but this government is going so quickly to liquidate the regime that man one expects from the parties that move with that tranquility of the impression that the government is moving faster than the opposition in general but to begin with there is a difference in the position is that not all of us think that the government is an illegitimate government and I believe that it must be said every day of this legislature with complete clarity that it is a government that has deceived the Spanish people in the most obvious and crudest way that could be done.

On Friday he said something about his pacts. Monday announces a different thing and that makes this government born of fraud and lies that cannot be tolerated. Lying to the Spaniards is not in the penal code, but if Sánchez were there, he would have to be locked up and is on his way to becoming a government. illegal because it is willing to trample on the constitution to override the freedoms of speech, more for example about homosexuality to box they have put the refrain that it is a homophobic party despite the fact that these gentlemen have the help of those who hang homosexuals in Iran and even though they have gone from that homophobia of the ancestors to kicking homosexuals out of the closet right now they were telling me yesterday afternoon there is a big undertaking that I did to the law firms that They contract with her that she has to have 50 percent of racially diverse people on her board of directors from a homosexual point of view and some other things, that is, they no longer distinguish between the public and the private and I believe that if sexuality has something company is, I'm not going to say it here because I want to, they told me yesterday, allow me to get the data to denounce it with tone but I have been doing it with the quotas for years yes but but it is very serious and it is something that must be contained because totalitarianism precisely they do not want any difference between public and private spaces and they also want sexuality to be something public.

They are already going to make people declare their sexuality to work in a company. We are facing something very dangerous and I believe that not all of the opposition The opposition realizes this. I ask with prudence that it is the one that we are allowed to work on and we will see when other elections are called and we will see what the situation is in Spain if it is called and they are called but if they are not called it does not have either. It makes sense that we talk about alliances, well, it has been good, but that is very easy, if they are not going to be convened, you are in jail or you are in the trenches, that is, there are no alternatives and there is no longer the possibility of peacefully ousting the government, well, now You will tell me what alternative you have but there is another issue but where I am going to be Federico is in the exact defense of what I said during the electoral campaign that does not coincide with what other opposition parties have said but that they are o Not that I ask for unification, which would also probably be counterproductive.

I only ask for agreements between parties. If not, we don't ask for the moon either. It's just that there is a contradiction in Santiago between the message that it gives us on one side of all this that is happening and the seriousness that it has and that you believe is more serious than you believe in other parties and at the same time ask for calm and that contradiction that I believe is in the relationship between the three parties of the center-right is what disorients the electorate and From my point of view, I may be wrong. In fact, what has allowed Felipe and Pedro Sánchez to win the last elections is the fact that the left, on the one hand, and the right, sorry, on the one hand, say this is very serious, and on the other hand. weeps, take this pine tree away from me for less than then it seems to me that in some way it is not actually a unification but something probably more complex, better braided or maybe even simpler, but in some way they have to resolve that contradiction especially because going three with this electoral they are going to have it regular I mean I understand the case for example of Galicia there if you are not that feijóo de sacha or the same as the citizen said by the way surely because the landline does not need it not of course well I hope Because it is the third separatist front in two months, in fact, Feijóo refused to sign the project that they made for the new statute of Galicia, which was totally, totally separatist, absolutely, which included finding out that his mythical being chaos and founding your political reality in a mythical being. wrong but let's go to what carmelo was proposing, that is to say, on the one hand, this kind of emergency with issues that in fact only some of you raise, although in one way or another they are shared by the majority of the center-right voter, I know that the voter of citizens and Of the pp many of the things that you say well either you think them or you like it more when you did it than married or you like it more when you say married in that softer way than when you say it I mean that we are in nuances up to Isabel ten years She has only said here in this chair that she does not remove that law because they called her to ride and not exactly it was not like that but it takes up too much so she does not I think she would understand herself much better with 10 ayuso than with Teodoro García but the question but well It's just that it tells me about the deceased, so what do you think Alfonso Alonso has supposed and in that PP that Alfonso Alonso was also in the youth of the heroic youth of that popular party before the turnaround that Rajoy took in the congress of Bulgaria, capital of Valencia, which is That's when Maria San Gil throws in and that's when the great crisis of the popular party occurs that some saw coming and look, it was clear then if you want the conservative party to leave, you want the liberal party to leave and there are box and citizens the level of nonsense because in relation to our jurisdictions the new context dominated what Carmelo Alfonso Alonso had asked me was saying exactly the same thing that Feijóo Feijóo said that we are going, it is a match that is against Galicia, she knows bad Galician, my grandmother is Galician still with a tremendous accent in his 91 years after 60 in the basque country alfonso has gone so far as to say that boxing is a game foreign to euskadi euskadi yes because that is almost I am not even saying it the truth yes yes yes illiterate it was as if Spain was I would have called Spanishness because that ridiculous flag is a green copy of the union jack but you will see how it has evolvedthings have gotten worse since the time of unamuno but well the pp in these places a nationalist discourse has fallen in many cases into a discourse very attached to regionalism that hates nationalism because it likes feijóo that is also saying that galicia is a nation without a state Truly extreme statement against what he did when they presented that statute to him, of course, and we have a national party, the PP has changed before yesterday, they have changed their leader, they have reached an agreement with citizens and we are outside of that, we have the responsibility of offering our message throughout Spain because we are a national party because we do not say that we agreed with them here but not there and we are also in a position to say that we are going to give a surprise just like in Andalusia based on the data we have, I don't know if of the same magnitude but a big surprise considering where it is sometimes the same in some places in the Basque Country and in Galicia, if you have a deputy who depends on whether he is Feijóo president, you are going to support Feijóo, what conditions would you put on him with no there were conditions well he said in good conditions obviously there always have to be conditions but feijóo said that he is not going to agree with box well it is most likely perfect that he has an absolute majority that to an agreement with others we are worthy and there is not all a post-electoral pact so that certain things are respected, for example in matters of linguistic freedom, it seems very important to us that the legislation that Feijóo wants to apply progresses, so that it be eliminated or attenuated because we are not setting red lines in our negotiations, in any case we are saying which ones.

These are the things that matter to us but at the moment of truth we have not put a single red line. We are a clear party. We are a forceful party but we are a party that is in reality that is aware of its representation and we do not have an absolute majority anymore. We would like to maintain tranquility at a time when we say that the situation is very serious. I believe that tranquility must be maintained even in the trenches, but the fact is that we have had an election because we talked again about why we have not done something before. of November 10 in which we have been totally demonized in which he has been attacked and insulted in the rallies attacked and whoever has not joined in the demonization has not been able on many occasions to condemn what they were demonizing us married pablo has come to call us extreme right is the one who has done it once and not again but that happens in life getting on with them with you for example days there is use a little the other day he almost hit a man That there is an insult to Vox, they could do one thing another day, they do another, but they are much closer to you.

What you want to convince me is that they are closer than the socialist party. It is evident that the other citizens in Galicia and in the Basque country are in front of the candidates first. are going to present and how will the level of candidatures be? It will be total partial. Well, I know there are 40 days left. 39 We are going to present ourselves in the three Basque provinces and in the four Galician provinces. Of course, what we will not announce will only be one candidate for the junta of galicia nor a candidate for the presidency of the basque government because that would be out of touch with reality our objective is to have representation obviously we are not going to preside over any of the governments a candidate no more box is a party that is not organized by autonomies and does not provincially in the first place and in this case in which there is no chance of victory we do not have any need to say but that does not do it by acting the national candidate is you well in fact the national leaders are going to be very present in the Basque campaign and tomorrow the elected without opposition because you have not even gathered the necessary credentials someone to appear in front of you I would not have agreed so that it would not seem so vulgar to I do not know how to organize an action peasant party of Poland that they had any communist who said that the meat was plural, it is probable, but the truth is that at a time of certain boxing success with 52 deputies, it does not seem that there is an internal environment among the membership that other candidates are valued.

I believe that everyone understands that and of course I have that very much in mind, he achieved glory and one achieved glory because he tried to face it with victory, the defeat that we had before before, I listened to what he said and if they show up and don't get results, who is going to resign, well, the same one who resigned when you It had 50 thousand votes and no seats in all of Spain' which was me, that is, I did not resign, which would be in front of us. We are going to try to have results, we believe that we can have them, and if we do not have them, we will have them in the following ones now and periodically, yes, two questions. to return to the country, that's why I believe iturgáiz has recovered an idea that I believe from the ranks of the popular party that I hadn't heard for a long time, I think I hadn't heard, which is the possibility of outlawing bildu.

I don't know if in that dynamic of possibility it's not of possibilities of his training and then he also wanted to bring back to the table the issue of the incorporation of Pablo Iglesias to the film control commission and how he values ​​it. He believes that there is a level of danger and if he sees a possibility that there have been to file an appeal before the courts to avoid that appointment because I do not know if there is a possibility of filing an appeal to the courts but I consider it something really dangerous considering that the vice president of the government is dedicating himself, together with his wife, to fueling the mobilizations in the street against the opposition against the government also because he said to the farmers after abandoning them that they must be a Catalanism that has caught on recently with which cheaply I think he is going to demonstrate this weekend in front of his house in Asaja de es que I get the impression that they are whether they let them or well that is the question but they dance gala let's go to the other issue that of the illegalization of eta which it must be said is endorsed by the human rights court of Strasbourg which The popular party did it as an electoral front for a terrorist group, it has to be illegalized and, nevertheless, good that they rule in Navarra is that they have been handed over from Navarra.

Well, it is very good to hear that from Carlos Iturgáiz, which I believe has not left to never say it, what is important to know if the national popular party is in that position because when the popular party had the government it looked the other way and accepted the agreements that Zapatero had negotiated with ETA through rigor and they did not lift a single finger to outlaw ETA's political brands, let them start saying it, okay now, allow me to show my skepticism, I'm going further, I think we have to put on the table the debate on the illegalization of the separatist forces in Spain, who are enemies of the base of the constitution which is national unity and there cannot be a debate if what unites us all is questioned when was the last time you spoke with Carlos Iturgáiz on election day and you are going to call him to congratulate him not because you are leaving me to ask to see what we had told them and he had better call you after the interview because you are the only nice one in the leadership that is not true in fact this is a mouth it is a poisoned compliment but it is not real it is real it seems that some find it difficult that if they are not complaining bitterly about the situation of the world of civilization and such, on the other hand, apart from preaching something that does not agree with your physical activity, you can dedicate calm tranquility and such time is all muscle because it is an unlikely thing. but at the same time he transmits a kind of peace of joy and tranquility.

I could vote for him in the same way as a married person who is not going to break a plate, who is going to make sure we make ends meet, etcetera. What seems like times to you is what it seems like. It's good, it's the same thing that Pablo Motos told me in the interview, as he says, and enjoy you and praise you for being so frank, that you are the only party that stood up for something that should be sacred, which is that the dead are not touched. I'm waiting for it to be debated in Congress with great enthusiasm, well, and then this Sunday you have the church law report on what I thought about the leader's eternal work, said Pablo Iglesias' grandfather, eternal work, he is the first human being who has eternal works that do not It's God because the grandfather to open it closed shook the Franco leader but there is the last question because there are many questions from listeners, you don't have the impression that I am saying towards public opinion I have two versions of the many people who call the radio for many people, many people who vote box and who are listening to the radio who get angry because they take the criticism very badly of a new party in the PP, they are so used to it and the criticism is little appreciated because it is like that and citizens like they were never critical but since there are so few people because they don't know either but they have always taken the criticism very badly here the only one who is already seasoned is the cp but in their mouths it is terrible that's why the sympathizers of sympathizers but also with a ferocity from but for for for for no no not for the better but there is an issue like let's say in parliament a parliamentary group has been put together the parliamentary boxing activity has been growing in a few months but the truth is that it has been noticed not because they are 57 but between 57 and if they speak you already well more already is a lot but it has really been seen that there is a group in the political showcase that especially the community of madrid also others but in andalusia have achieved a strange kind of effectiveness because they do not stop rising in The polls get along very well with the PP and even with Marín, the citizens who before were like Trotskyists or something similar and now nothing in Murcia depends on the days and in Madrid they are always at odds.

I think that the pin there is a pin regional that is not parental, which is the one they activate when they see that things are very calm and in addition they always attack the PP, they never attack citizens, which is the The impression that they have brought all their strength to the parliamentary group is to say that since Vox is a new party, what they have managed to do is put together something that no one thought they were going to put together, which is a parliamentary group as such where 20 people with the capacity to act continuously and nothing is addressed, it is not in the commissions because in the end what counts are the interventions and on the other hand in the autonomies where you have been decisive in forming the government and will be more decisive in the future because you will enter the government with security I don't know when but they will come in due to the logic of the representation that they are a bit like the grumpy of the regional while on the other hand the national ones have grown older, that is to say that they are still a little childish in the regional and on the other hand the national where it was most difficult, they have managed to have that parliamentary presence, and from the way those from Podemos attack them, it is already clear that it is important.

I believe that there are two very different situations at the regional level and at the national level, at the regional level, Box has had to behave like a party on which governments in Murcia, Madrid and Andalusia depend and has to enforce its votes and has to enforce the conditions of those who have trusted those regions and at the national level we are facing a totalitarian government of an illegitimate government facing a government that we have to fight without quarter and with complete clarity and I believe that this distinguishes two types of policies and on the other hand because it is a national party that appreciates and values ​​much more the seat of national sovereignty which is the congress than the regional parliaments of Those who all of Spain already know what we think have too much power and that we should begin to return powers to the state and in that sense I believe that there is a certain logic that makes up the glory come back here from Madrid's validity because as Madrid's great competition The state ends with announced numancia and Sánchez is going to return it.

He does not want to attack them, but well, I want to say that I think it varies. In general, I have always defended it that things like the interior and for example, like health or education, I think that of course they should never never be be in regional or provincial hands or anything that has to be state and controlled by parliament that I agree with you 98 99% but on the other hand about your marriage with many people who stop me and tell me I agree with 99% but and I say but you don't agree with anything more than I agree with my wife and we got married through mediation and I agree with you almost always and that is almost a minimum or maximum according to 6 thousand people well but that is a question let's say of Basically, Box's perception already knows that I told him in public and I only said it before in private.

I believe that you should have offered the patriotic extension that you would have had, but I wrote that no one in front of this government, explorers who would have done the same. What Sánchez has done is probable but Books' situation would not be the same in the face of that center-right voter. First of all, you are a new party, you are not, but as a party you are a party and just born as a great national party, here you have a few months, I can have a few few deputies or one deputy, which is something that you aspired to, not only against the fact that only two years ago you had to have a group of 57 third national political force as a bridge and with good prospects.

Furthermore, that is such a radical change that the voter does not have time to find out, I'm sure that apart from you, they will know Iván because he is everywhere and Rocío is in Madrid but little else since of the 6 or 8 that they have at a high level in thecongress and in the senate I am thinking, for example, of curro contreras francisco josé contreras that we have to bring him, by the way, only from the people with the highest intellectual level that there are in the senate with a degree, the sir, that is in the congress, the state, but look If they have sold it poorly, I thought it was in the senate and that is why they did not remove it at all.

They will see good what has a very high level but people do not know them, so how are you going to organize this transition from being a party? from leader to being an organization party that can guarantee that in each region it has two or three recognizable leaders who can vote for deputies eventually in regional congresses, etc. I believe that this can be achieved with the consolidation of the activity of the deputies themselves In the congress it is true that the leader is the best known in the party but it is also true that I speak really little in interviews in the congress and there are many others who are speaking in the committees in the plenary sessions with truly surprising interventions.

In every plenary session I see our deputies saying that at the beginning, well, with some concern, I don't play games. For you, it is clear that in many cases this is the case. We knew them but we didn't know how they were going to do it on the congressional rostrum, which is to say that I always wince. tranquility of satisfaction and a certain pride when I listen to them speak and I think that during these months of seeing many other people who will be national leaders and territorial leaders in boxing, in that sense I think it will grow faster and it is doing so for These four months of what we can expect, making many people already recognized and also through social networks, although our interventions do not appear on television through social networks, the reach we have is extraordinary at this time, good in networks social networks, it must be said that it is a shot from the right, it is the one that has the longest run on social networks, that is, it is a proportion of 1 to 2 and with respect to citizens, one has to do with that of the voters, okay, yes, yes, but that is being producing on the right in general, that is, a slide towards the young vote, as usually happens when someone else occupies power.

Well, let's see, let's go to Vanessa with questions to Santiago Abascal. After the break, we will go directly to it, but where are they going in general? There are many topics but without a doubt what is most worrying are the regional ones. After the break it is the morning it is radio we were thinking of being questions for Santiago Abascal if I said that asking about the regional ones there is a lot of curiosity about the lists to also know what expectations they have and to know if the relationship between box and the popular party is already irreversible given the importance of the next elections in the Basque country in those who are thinking about box to head the lists for these elections was Basque at some times has been married made a formal offer for Spain adds, if so, why did it come to fruition and under what conditions?

Well, with Iturgáiz, it is easy for you to want to reach any type of agreement, however, with Feijóo, I am clear that no agreement will be reached. Can you explain it if everyone talks? well everyone, as was seen yesterday with Mr. Iturgáiz, they have known each other since they ate porridge together because they don't make an effort and instead of being in front of the table they stand next to each other good morning before and I want to ask about the social alternative label that it translates into specifically and how it intends to help farmers and rural people through subsidies or reducing taxes, the most liberal current of the party is going to be abandoned because it was so easy to make a motion of Mariano Rajoy censures and yet with the government we now have under Pedro Sánchez, no motion of censure is made.

I am a journalism student who has to see how almost every day his professors say things like the growth of fascists in congress or that wearing the bracelet with the flag of Spain is also a rise of fascism that box proposes to be able to study with ideological freedom in the Spanish public university the best question well there are many well as for the lists we will announce them this week there will be no regional candidates like I have said if there will not be a candidate for the Galician junta for the presidency of the Basque government but rather provincial candidates for sending a clear message to the citizens, that is, that their candidate for lehendakari is Iturgáiz, that is, although Federico and perhaps some listeners would like it, but They don't like me or not and if you were the candidate and supported Iturgáiz I would also think it would be good, it is more like that of citizens who were thrown out for agreeing with the PP I would also think it would be good if it were an unknown Aizkolari that he represents I would also like it and He withdrew it and then it is well known that there has been no formal offer, no one has known about it, it has not been made either in the press or in private.

There has been an agreement with citizens, so there is a permanent offer to boxing voters to join. Spain adds but without inbox without the box leaders without the voice ideas only the voters want and I suppose the membership fees too but there has not been a formal offer we have refused to speak what was said here if they propose to us the illegalization of the separatist parties question the economic privileges of the regions such as the economic agreement because we can talk about the recovery of skills those three things to build the Basque country that are essential, we would have the duty to sit down urgently if it is accepted that a part of these ideas be included but I have the feeling that this is not going to be the case, which city is going to prevent us from doing so, as it has prevented the participation of boxing.

Do you want the venue not to have the strength to prevent something? Yes, it does and it also shows it in Madrid. because I believe that the biggest impediment that citizens have is when they kick us in the shin, absolutely scared, but there they agreed with their representative in a commission of investigation that had no other meaning than to personally destroy Isabel Díaz Ayuso, what is that what he did? Make it watery seems normal to me because I don't have a great opinion of television at Rocío Monastery. It seemed very ugly to me as well as being counterproductive.

I mean that here everyone carries their sins but citizens now objectively are a force, let's say they have to live on rent to survive that. It is obvious and that gives you the ability to act and not to veto citizens precisely, but well, I want to insist on the question of programmatic ideas. If you want to talk about these things, we are still willing to talk, but it gives me the feeling of Those who do not want to talk about this want to have a soft brand that allows them to say that boxing voters can vote.

We want to offer a program and we are going to do it in all the provinces. Regarding the relationship with the PP, it is irreversible, well, obviously, no. The relationship with the PP is what it is, the baby is not our enemy, it is a political adversary with whom we agree on some things and disagree on others, by the way, according to a report by World Watch, the PP and the PSOE agree much more with each other in Europe. that with box and this is also important for it to be known at the national level we are in opposition to the government that they are voting on many things but if he is valued it was you accrued they applaud them if it often gives the impression that they are forcing the separation the differences, I mean the impression, there are things that are fundamental issues but that in essence they are tactics and I am sure that 90% of the PP deputies think about the substantive costs the same as you and probably the married gentleman but what he defends is Another thing that we defend is what we think, it is not a tactical question to talk about the illegalization of separatist parties, it is to say that the economic agreement is an injustice, it is not a tactical question to say that there are some powers and we know that we cannot agree with them.

They are in that and we have the task of acting as the vanguard of acting as a battering ram so that these things are debated in Spanish society and I believe that that is the mission of boxing but the relationship with the PP is not irreversible just because the PP is very changing depending on what position is ok to what you defend because we can be closer, further away or reach agreements more easily, it is questioned, you are heard in the congressional rostrum, Pablo Casado is heard and the speeches are interchangeable, but in the In the case of the Basque country there is an element of difference before the popular party and you do and if not Mr.

Abascal is going to correct me what is the support or not for the Basque concert which is capital which is capital the jurisdictions of course but you speaking when I was The PP was fundamentally against ETA, the young boy was in a party, and now I have many criteria for many things that the opponent had not thought about before, and several of them are essential, although there are still essential things, especially in the country. Basque there are many things that remain essential essential the essential thing is to fight the battle that box is going to fight and that the pp is incapable of fighting that is why we present ourselves but some think that the essential thing is that we make a joint list or that we withdraw and a joint list to evict the rabble that governs in Spain is that we must not forget that in Spain Bolívar governs, man, we are giving the Basque PP.

You say that we have eta and rc governing, I have said that the investiture insurance company At the national level it is happening and in fact the bills are already being passed, one of them being the transfer of the management of social security or prisons, which is why you have to go together in the same view on the underlying issue because If not, it is impossible to evacuate and see where Mr. Inda, who has a center-right media outlet, a coalition of a certain size, could have something bigger and could get together with other media outlets and make more force, but surely, surely It's a pending possibility for some reason what happens is that I can't find the scams.

The problem is that I can't find any means of communication, maybe except this house, with which to unite because ideologically they are all on the opposite side. from here with love and dignity the pp the pp and I think they don't have many differences seeing but it is a bit of a cheat good that can be read and is read or that newspaper and digital freedom and listen to on the radio at the same time but to all three that It is true that I cannot offer a concrete message to the Spanish like what I am having here going with them if you could I am not seeing you get together and aimed at different types of teeth it is not only what we already do but we are going to see well listeners only We who are already the last but the but the readers of ok newspaper and digital freedom are interchangeable because it is the same social nucleus it is the same society model that we defend I am sure of wine and deep down they have been exchanged and deep down and the pp It is that she has learned more than mice by looking at being a queen quietly.

A university student asked what to do for that climate that we have seen, for example, and we saw the recording and then we also interviewed Jorge Campos of boxing in the Balearic Islands who are doing a great job. As the 20-year-old Balearic circle has always done, as a teacher insulted the students, the students defended themselves, of course, with extraordinary neatness, which the teacher did not have, but it is true that there is a real permanent aggression towards people who are defending national unity who vote box or not vote box, which may depend on Catalonia, are voting for citizens and are defending practically the same thing but they have the same enemy in front of them and that this occurs not only in the media but the media and that is tremendous that they have thought about it, they asked about the universities and I am going to return to early childhood education to primary education to the education that parents have to give to our children in our homes I think that Brave free young people cannot come to universities if we have not educated them in that way and therefore we must protect them first of all in their earliest childhood so that they arrive with critical capacity and the ability to defend themselves to the university that by certain people, getting away with university autonomy, have done what they wanted in many places and I believe we are having a social problem.

There has been a certain disinterest on the right in cultural issues and the right had become complex in management and probably in education. parents have given to their children I believe that what political leaders and social leaders do has consequences and when the right in Spain is saying that its only mission is to balance public accounts and has renounced everything that had to do with it With the cultural thing that has consequences that your only interest is good I lost in account one a boxing voter tells me how not to agree the three of us have communist communism for the rest yes it is a trap of Eduardo now Eduardo who is taken out of the top hat the message from a boxing voter that I know to the voice voters we have communicated communism to the three of us look how the communists associated with the independence movement ras diet have come together well let's see how I have to come out defending my interviewee and already he brandished with

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we recognize him great but of course if you put me in the position of having to defend this man or guest of our house this would be good he would win 40 without showing up well

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andWhen I have like I don't want to make things impossible either, I mean, but he has always been here in the studio, which is where you really look at people and you see what the political temperature is, although he learns a lot, learning tricks and such, for example, there is an office but When there are elections we review what happened it is 45 weeks the only one who does it is not right but but then we are going to do the census and if you do form a government in Galicia I confess that I would have fun I would love for you to be able to form government with the pp in Galicia I formed the benegá and the psoe but it would really be a great novelty and also there I would have a margin of action, I will not say unlimited but it is almost not worth it if the candidate withdraws, it is another right that the pact is impossible calls for so many impossible things and a breakfast now we will listen to half a moro just said that a free president wants to feel free but not associate with the alonso and company who are the ones who by the way killed him in the previous congress of the popular party attracts through by Soraya Sáenz de Santamaría with roles that came and went, we are going to see Santiago as friends and there we are going to tell the latest about Feijóo.

We cannot talk about the performance of the Ministry of Health because we do not have a Ministry of Health. The double agent Iglesias and the agent as a stationary sand to the 1000 tourists who were in contact with the Italian doctor positive for a coronavirus in the south of Tenerife in those who were in the same hotel in quarantine and it is impossible for Italy to quarantine itself this afternoon so this What this shows is that we cannot trust the information that a good communist government gives us, thank you very much and we quickly go to the news and then to the pink chronicle It's Federico's morning with Federico Jiménez Losantos