EXCLUSIVE: Mary Trump's insider interview on 'most dangerous' President | 60 Minutes AustraliaMay 30, 2021
presidentof the United States is often referred to as the
mostpowerful man in the world, but Donald Trump's niece Mary Trump says the current
presidentis actually the
dangerousman in the world. She is so concerned about Trump's abuse of his position that she says it is his patriotic duty. to take him down and do that, she has written a brutal and revealing memoir, the book is the definitive account of a truly dysfunctional family, but she has added substance because Dr. Mary Trump is also a clinical psychologist, her analysis of how Uncle Don became an uncle.
Sam is not just a page turner, he is a horror story together we will make America great again When Donald Trump was elected four years ago, the man with the toupee was clear from the beginning that he was a president like no other, I I am the chosen one. what I say is what I say, yes you have to see this guy, oh I don't know what I said, ah, I don't use him to pay with his exaggerated self-confidence and aggression, this administration is running like a machine tuned. brash new york businessman vowed to make america great again time to drain the swamp in washington d.c. it was obvious that
trumptook pleasure in humiliating anyone who opposed him bad life nothing was sacred she is the devil and no one was saved from a war hero five and a half years as a prisoner of war and you call him a fool who could forget his poisonous attack on vietnam war hero john mccain is a war hero because he was captured i like people who weren't captured okay, i hate to break it to you As shameless as he often is, it's probably only natural that the most powerful job in the world has fueled the ego of donald
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I could stand in the middle of fifth avenue and shoot someone and I wouldn't lose any voters, okay, but over the last few weeks that ego has been dented a critic who knows too much and wants to be heard has come out of the shadows there's no bottom to it how bad this can be how atrocious his behavior can be
marytrump the president's only niece is one of the few who knows the real donald trump, i have done a phenomenal job with him. She says it's her duty to save the world from another four years of chaos, so she's revealing the secrets of Trump's dysfunctional family life.
She needed to tell the family story, the origin story, because there are so many things. is up for grabs, but not only is Mary the ultimate
insider, she also has a PhD in clinical psychology that gives her observations on her famous uncle. A worrying medical context that is forcing the media to have a conversation that they never wanted to have and never had. had to be about donald's psychological health from this day on it will just be america first america first
marythe subtitle of your book is how my family created the most
dangerousman in the world do you really mean i do um and do you know if he yeah wasn't in the White House, then obviously that wouldn't be the case.
He is dangerous because of the power that comes with the position he holds. He is dangerous because he is very susceptible to other powerful and intelligent people. It's very easy to get him to do it. your offer i think we've seen a lot of evidence of that you need to just flatter him and you know if you're kim jong-un or vladimir putin he'll know how to stop the sanctions or he Look the other way when you start building more nuclear missiles it's pretty scary besides that we're talking about someone who's pretty unstable and the more pressure he's under because he's completely out of his depth here, the more pressure he's under, the more cornered he is.
He is going to feel and attack more and that is what we must be attentive to in the coming months. You would put the most dangerous man in the world ahead of Kim Jong-un and Xi Jinping and Vladimir Putin. Actually yes, well, we. We're talking about a man who has control of the world's largest nuclear arsenal, which makes him more dangerous than these other people because he has the nuclear codes despite the damning analysis of him. Mary actually sympathizes with her uncle, the daughter of Donald Trump's older brother. Freddie says the Trump brothers were always destined to be dysfunctional to the outside world.
Trump and his brothers and sisters seem to have it all and a comfortable existence in New York, but the figure who loomed larger and darker was his father, Fred, a successful real estate agent. developer who valued earning more than anything else at the center of all the dysfunction all the problems seems to be your grandfather, the president's father, fred, it's fair to say, oh yes, he is the origin, he is ground zero of the entire family dysfunction, I'm sure you know I say this very clearly in the book and I stand by it. I think he was a sociopath.
A sociopath. I mean, coming from a trained clinical psychologist. human feeling for anyone, including his children, and he was quite skilled at using people for his own purposes and if he found them to be of no use, he had no qualms about discarding them. Was he a cruel man? Yes, yes, he really enjoyed humiliating other weaker people. deal with that sociopathy, are you suggesting that he emotionally paralyzed his children, especially his son, the president? Yes, of course, that would have a negative impact on anyone, any child, to make it worse, although for Donald when he was very young, about two and a half to three years old, my grandmother, his mother, who was really his only source of human connection and comfort, at that time he became seriously ill and was for all intents and purposes absent from his life, so he suddenly found himself so young basically alone in the world. because my grandfather was unable to fill the void left by my grandmother's absence, you know, you talk about your grandmother being emotionally absent, do you think that had an effect on her ability to love?
Yes, I think because of the vulnerable age she was. when she got sick I think on some level he experienced it as a betrayal, she didn't have the ability to heal the breach even after she was able to and I think that stayed with him and maybe the final betrayal was when he was sent to uh, to the military academy because he was behaving so horribly and no one could control him and my grandmother told me much later that she was relieved when he left as a result of that relationship. Do you think he hates women?
I can not talk to him. He hates women, but what I can say because I grew up with it is that women were considered second class citizens. I have a lot of respect for women. I appreciate women. You called women. You don't like fat pigs, dogs, lazy people and disgusting animals. rosie o'donnell i have tremendous respect for women all women lie she is a world class liar i love women who faint when i talk and when you're a star they let you do it you can do whatever you want grab them for That explains all the wives and girlfriends and the Playboy image and the Access Hollywood tape and everything else is seen this way Lisa, yeah, I mean, it explains his casual cruelty toward women and his uh, the ease with which he objectifies them.
I know he certainly never seems to have had a real, deep emotional connection with women or, well, I guess anyone, honestly, but he objectifies women and uses them in a way that he certainly doesn't with men, but things They could have been like that. very different for the trump family mary freddie junior's father was the son destined to take over the family business but when he refused to pursue his own dreams of becoming a pilot he earned the wrath of his very happy father and i think the city of new york is going to be very happy, we are going to do something now that will be a big step forward for new york city, which meant donald becoming the face of the family business, he is a chip off the old block, this is my father. and he eagerly adopted the win-at-all-costs attitude of his father eight years ago.
I must say that I was embarrassed to say that today he was in the real estate business in New York. I can honestly say that I am proud of it and that it is the number one city in In the world, my dad was incapable of being what my grandfather wanted and needed him to be, so that was a lesson that Donald took to heart. He understood on a deep level that to be like Freddie, my dad had to be kind about admitting mistakes, uh. having interests outside of business and making money was essentially being destroyed, so to say you're wrong or show any kind of emotional empathy that would be seen as a weakness in the Trump family, that was completely unforgivable, yes, Donald learned that you You can never admit you're wrong, that was considered a weakness and we saw that clearly with the Coven 19 situation he didn't do anything right away and then when it was almost time to do the right thing, that would have meant admitting. that he hadn't done the right thing in the first place so that wasn't going to happen, so the situation got worse and worse and closely related to that was this idea of the power of positive thinking which my grandfather actually interpreted as excellent and fantastic. . incredible and essentially took it to such an extreme that it became a kind of toxic positivity what is it about Donald's insistence on describing everything in grandiose terms right there you are talking about tremendous, tremendous, tremendous power, a phenomenal, phenomenal bill, Phenomenal poll results go to Be Fantastic, Donald learned that in order to not only be protected from his father but also favored by his father, he needed to be larger than life, cool, fantastic.
You know, part of it was toxic positivity and part of it was just having to convince. fred trump father that he was that donald belonged on the planet and um, you know, he should survive and succeed and he needed to make it clear to fred that donald could be useful to him, since money is the only currency at family Christmas in the trumps, some of the presidents were quite hysterical, you won't believe how stingy, I mean three packages of underwear for Christmas billionaires, it may be that I was a little beyond the friend who follows on 60
minutes, Donald Trump's niece Mary, has spent his entire life looking at her.
Famous guy, you've exposed the entire Trump family in this book and the common theme, the main motivator, without a doubt, seems to be money when it comes to wins. It's all about money. Money is the only currency in the family. I mean, it literally represents. everything else love affection respect it's understandable that, you know, my family members would latch onto it so desperately and want to acquire it. Mary understood from the beginning that in the Trump family great wealth did not equal great generosity, especially at Christmas, which caught my attention. It was the mutual treatment in your family, you know, for example, that strange habit your family had of giving second-hand gifts at Christmas, what was it about?
Oh, you know, once my father got out of the family business and was punished for failure, and anyone connected to him, which would have been me, didn't matter anymore, so there was this level of inconsideration around us, so luckily we were able to laugh at it, because it's not really very funny, although some of the gifts were pretty hysterical. What does it mean that your uncle and his wife, who were extraordinarily rich, gave you a three-pack of underwear for Christmas, went a little beyond the pill, say, well, what about the designer bag they gave you with the used tissue inside, yes?
That was actually for my mom and she was even lower on the totem pole than me and one of the things that's also telling is that Donald didn't even recognize that they were gifts that he had given me. Mary can laugh. outside of the new gift, but what she will never be able to forgive is the Trump family's humiliation of her father, Freddy Jr., the older brother was cast aside in favor of young Donald, who had the killer instinct, unless you go to have a certain way of doing it. They are going to be eaten alive, especially in New York City, especially in the business world, at 42 years old, Freddie was an alcoholic and had lost his home and his marriage, he lived with his parents and was slowly dying when he was in his deathbed in the hospital, why not?
No one in the family, none of the Trumps visited him by then, my grandfather had broken up with my father, um, I think he had given up on him and I think just watching him deteriorate physically and emotionally made my grandfather angry and he continued the humiliation, so when he got so sick, my grandfather just thought it was over and you know why he needed to be there, why he needed to be a witness that he had witnessed enough and you know his children always followed his directions, but even without him Your grandfather was gone, I mean, he still had two brothers and two sisters, and yet none of them showed up on his deathbed.
I find it incredible. Yes, to me it is the most damning thing we can say about them. As people, it is true that that night, despite knowing how seriously ill your father, his own brother, was, Donald decided to go see a movie. Yes, I think staying home would have bored him. He didn't have the patience to be there. sitting by the phone and again me, because my grandparents weren't going anywhere, I don't think it would have occurred to him to go to the hospital. The death of her father left Mary exposed and vulnerable, butIt would be 18 years before she realized how bad it was.
It was in 1999 that Trump patriarch Fred Senior died and Mary's estate was virtually cut off. She sued her uncle Donald and her brothers, claiming that they had forced her grandfather to change her will. The case was finally settled under confidential terms today. Mary insists that her memoir is not revenge, but In an attempt to correct the record and counter Trump's turn, you say very clearly in your book that Donald and the rest of the family destroyed my father. I can't let them destroy my country. So what is this exhibition about? Are you trying to avenge your father's memory?
Your father's reputation. I wouldn't say avenge as much as I would say rehabilitate because when uh in the past, Donald has talked about my father, he's only referred to him as, you know, an alcoholic. He says that he was handsome, that he was handsome, and that he was kind, but you know, in my family to say that someone is kind is an insult, but. He never talks about my father's achievements, so it's more about letting people know who my father really was, you know, destroying the country, that sounds very arrogant and maybe it wasn't the best expression because clearly I can't do it alone.
There's nothing I can do in that regard, but I feel like I have to do everything I can to make sure people are informed and understand exactly what's going on with this man. I have a high level of education. I know the words. I have the best words I have to say. but there's no better word than stupid, right, there isn't any. I wanted to touch on one of the things you say in the book. You make the accusation that Donald managed to arrange for someone else to take his college entrance exams. I just wonder. I mean, if you're capable of that kind of cheating at a young age, what are you capable of today in the White House?
Exactly, you know, I was actually a little surprised by how surprised people were by the satellite story when you first encountered the book. came out just as I was surprised by the reaction to your use of racist and anti-Semitic language because look what it does, you know, it shouldn't surprise anyone that it started so long ago, especially since my grandfather also believed that you do whatever it takes to have success cheat lie work with the mafia whatever it is a serious claim that he got someone to give him tests you are comfortable with that that is absolutely true I believe in my source who was there at the time I stand by it 100 The book of Mary is not the first time she has tried to show her uncle's true colors.
She admits she was the source of a 2018 report in the New York Times about the origins of Donald Trump's wealth. Steve, you'll have to start. put some pressure on these people now because as far as I'm concerned it's getting a little ridiculous, he shattered the myth created by the president that he was a self-made man by proving that his business ventures were actually backed by the his father's money. Put it in a fascinating way, you say that no one has failed as consistently and spectacularly as him, yes, he failed, what do you mean this is a man who bankrupted the casinos, which is a difficult thing to do, and then they gave him a television show? back in the early 2000s, which portrayed him as this real estate mastermind, so you know every failure along the way has been met with more money thrown at him by the banks, um, more enthusiastic media coverage about what a guy so brilliant and cheeky he's, um, you know, he's It took a lot of people to help him fail, why are there so many people around that let him continue if he's so useless?
Well, because it may be useless, but he has a lot of power and they are willing to endure. or overlook or completely ignore your behavior, your rudeness and your incompetence, your niece Mary Trump has written a book about you and your family in one of your main, unsurprisingly, the president has come out attacking his niece and her memoirs, she writes a book that is so stupid. and so cruel and it's a lie that the president says this book is a lie oh yeah, I'm not entirely sure what else he would say. First of all, I highly doubt he read it. um, but what could I say, you were expecting that, yeah.
Well, yes, I did because the smart thing for him would have been to not say anything, but he can't help it and you know there's no way he's going to admit anything that's in the book, whatever he knows, and again . there's no way to know that it's embarrassing that she said she wasn't exactly a family favorite, we didn't have much respect or like for her, it's a very personal humiliation, isn't it? Yeah, well, that's what he does, uh, you. I know it goes straight to the ad hominem personal attack. You know, whatever is most convenient. Actually, he hadn't heard that.
But he doesn't bother me. An emboldened left will launch a full-scale assault on American life. You already know. I've done a phenomenal job with this in November, we're going to defeat the radical socialist Democrats down the street, so before the next election, your goal is to get people to see the real Donald Trump. A simple message: Donald is not going to get better and he is going to get worse, which should make people think carefully about how they will cast their next vote for him. When you do tests, to that extent you will find more people. to find more cases so I told my people to slow down the testing please how much worse could it get?
I'm afraid we're going to find out. Hopefully George is looking down right now and saying something great is happening for our country, there's a great day for him, it's a great day for everyone, I knew that just from my family's knowledge, uh, and as a doctor um, there's no bottom, there's no bottom, you know how bad this can get. how atrocious his behavior can be, why do you say that because you think he will do anything to win? Yeah, I mean, we've already seen that he's capable of acting badly or refusing to act in a way that would be appropriate to protect the country and the people of this country, so I think that as we go forward, maybe the worse he does in the polls or the more threatened he feels and the more stress he is under, yes, you know, there are going to be consequences for that, unfortunately I don't know what they are, but I think we should be prepared for what will happen if your uncle wins again in November .
I can not go there. You know, I'm just trying to get over it. uh the next few months and be as positive and proactive as you can. I just can't think after November 3rd. Do you forgive him for how he turned out or do you have anger for the way he performs? There is a big difference between having compassion and understanding for what someone went through as a child, but that changes once you become an adult human being, many people have had a horrible childhood and grow up feeling empathy for other people and worrying about what to do. good in the world donald is not one of those people and needs to be held accountable hello i'm liam bartlett thanks for watching to stay up to date with the latest news from 60
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