El traidor. Entrevista a Anabel Hernández - Perspectivas

The Traitor is one of the most ambitious journalistic works in the career of journalist Anabel Herná

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. The story that gave rise to this book dates back to January 2011 when she was contacted by one of Vicente Zambada Nieve's lawyers, better known here in Mexico as El Vicentillo, who was facing a trial in a court in Chicago, and in the United States the intention was to share with the journalist documents and facts that expanded and clarified several of the episodes that had just been revealed in the publication of his book, The Drug Lords Among the documents that the journalist had access to is the disturbing self-portrait as a clown that appears on the cover and in the diaries made by the vicentillo throughout the pages

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entered the sinaloa cartel through the story of the vicentillo who exhibits stark how the internal system works that gives life to the criminal organization to violence, the thousands of ways of trafficking drugs and the complicity between business politicians and law enforcement in Mexico but above all to see the profile of who during the last half century has been the king of drug trafficking ismael 'el mayo' zambada this is how the grijalbo publishing house describes its back cover the book written by

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ández a book titled the traitor with you and with us anabel hernández this is perspectives breakup tv welcome and welcome we begin and i well well well then I would like to tell you that we are more than happy to have Anabel Hernández here and this book that she has just published from a very personal point of view is the best book of all that the journalist Anabel Hernández has written and right now we are going to talk to them about that and why we say what we say anabel hernández welcome thank you thank you for the invitation with the opposite for me it is an honor to be here with you with your audience and we also thank you for giving us the exclusive together with carmen aristegui in the morning to the one who breaks the wind anabel what an outrage you just did writing, you are publishing a book that seems to me to rearrange the entire imaginary and everything we were told about the Sinaloa cartel, particularly rearranging Chapo Guzmán and rearranging the key character Ismael 'el Mayo' zambada and challenge more also with nothing else and none other than his son Anabel Hernández, what to say, you are writing a book that has 22 chapters and I also congratulate you and your editor because it seems to me that it makes your book much more digestible and it is also a systematized work of the information that goes into it. documenting what are the central elements that your book The Traitor provides, well first of all we have to say that it is the first time I think if I am not mistaken and I have read many books on drug trafficking I have been traveling around parts of the world in the last two years it is the first time that there is a story from inside a criminal organization from a member of the leadership because Vicente Zambada Nieve, son of Mayo Zambada, has been in the leadership of the Sinaloa cartel for at least 20 years since he was 16 years old. age he had been attached to the figure of his father seeing first learning then ordering organizing trafficking sending plants people etc. hundreds we are talking about what is a story from one of the members of the leadership of the Sinaloa cartel where he speaks not of a boss who has already dead not of a capo who is in prison but of the most important Mexican drug trafficker in the last half century, who is Mayo Zambada who right now is focused on the throne of drug trafficking in Mexico where the US government of Mexico that even evades talk about him as if he did not exist, however, he is the main drug trafficker in Mexico with a and he directs a transnational criminal organization that has a presence in 70% of the planet, which is no small feat.

It is the first time that at a time where he is in the peak of power, mayo zambada, where he has gotten rid of the enemies of uncomfortable competitors of Chapo himself, Guzmán, who was no longer useful to the criminal organization, is sitting on this throne and this book comes out challenging precisely that power, not through the voice of Anabel. Hernández but through the voice of his son, a voice that I was able to know through his lawyer Fernando Gaxiola, a voice that I think that neither Vicentillo himself nor his father expected this character to be publicly known, which I would also like to talk about in a moment and who is also one of the main protagonists of your book Fernando Gaxiola but let's first go with the central character of your book who is Vicente Zambada Nieve El Vicentillo as we know him here and here we also remember him with that superb tough posture that we have some images of that little vice that we suddenly see in a self-portrait that sows us and shakes us in many ways, what impression do you get from a self-portrait of a character like the little vice whom you got to know and who had access to letters written in his handwriting, I must To say that I was shocked, I did not expect it, especially because he is the first-born male son of Mayo Zambada.

He is a man who has known power at the highest level. He is a man who has been received in the pines and who has had breakfast there in the house of the president he is vicentillo and he is a man who, despite all the accumulated power, is already in prison at the metropolitan correctional center in chicago when he is in this dispute with the US government to demand that the government fulfill an agreement already made with the cartel They had guaranteed impunity where Vicentino had accepted or that they have been extradited. We must remember that Vicentino was arrested in 2009 by part of Felipe Calderón's government.

Let the president not come to us and say it is a success of mine because I fought the Sinaloa cartel, not in that At the time, Felipe Calderón's government was divided because some soldiers, some police, some sailors worked for Mayo Zambada and for El Chapo, and others worked for the Beltrán Leyva, and so many times these arrests occurred not because of government intelligence, not because of planned operations, but because Through relationships between one another and thus enemies are discarded, this context can say that an enemy party to the Beltrán Leyva managed to get the army to arrest Vicente Zambada Nieve in 2009.

The firm has quickly moved up to his extradition and agrees to be extradited to the United States because he thought the Americans are going to comply with the gentlemen's agreement that we had made, not the cartel, my father in the mai, my father and El Chapo tell me and he narrates at length in his own handwriting how this meeting was like his father and they tell him well my Son, I have to tell you that we have been working for the DEA for many years and many of the detainees have been because of us and we are talking about what in this context is that Vicente makes this self-portrait and when he is there between a sword and a sword wall used for so many years by his own father and used now by the US government and used until the last day by his own father with whom he continued to have contact while he was in prison in Chicago let me propose some phrases that planted a lot of some in me parts of the chapters there is one that is the chapter we work for the government that is the one that is, you are going to go and sow this current government and the previous ones, one because of what it has to do and the others because let's see how they get out of This is a fact that says that the payment of bribes to the various public officials from the president of the Mexican Republic on down has become so costly that Mayo Zambada has complained that in reality, at the end of the day, he works for the government. phrase is devastating what to say about this solar turned into a perverse circle according to gage himself hello what he explained to me and later I was able to corroborate with my own research mayo zambada is a man with a buoyant economy he is a very rich man but a lot of this wealth he has it in the legal term he has companies that produce meat that produce milk that produce different benefits that he makes contracts with the government of Mexico, including contracts that are current at this moment later we will get to that moment but he is a man who tells me that I could retire at any time.

He is a multimillionaire now because unlike other drug traffickers, much of the money he earned illegally turned into a lot of infrastructure of legal companies that pay taxes and that will guarantee him and for generations of for life the economic bonanza but then because mayo continues trafficking and mayo continues trafficking because he is already injured in this vicious circle where ok if he stops and tomorrow he dedicates himself solely to organizing his cows and continuing to export meat to the USA because he does it what would happen? with him if he is full he pays bribes they arrest him the day he does not continue feeding the dog the dog does not bite then that slave of the dog that is this government that extorts him and that tells him he wants to be free you have to pay me because sometimes the may can pass months without trafficking but there comes a point where he has to pay the monthly payment every fortnight which is millions and millions of dollars at different levels of government and that is where he says that his son narrates how his father told him well well there is no way we have to now move more red because now you have to pay this monthly payment I no longer have liquidity so well we have to do it and that's where you know that the government is bringing us to the race but by saying insult instead of bribery corruption and they can no longer stop me and someone corroborated me precisely this that the mayo has spoken that people from the mayo very close to the mayo complain about this in color because although in reality they already dedicate themselves to the benches, well, you have to retire but you can't anymore because you are often in a mechanism of corruption such that it no longer can and it also seems to me that it is a prisoner of its own success because whether we like it or not, May 8 is a factor of stability for the American market and for drugs and for the market in different parts of the world Today he is a commodity, today it is not that he wants to, he is no longer the owner, not even if I do not justify it because this man has been a criminal who extorts himself to death, he organizes terrible things, there are those that he has done throughout his life, but today There is the corruption and corrupt system that has allowed him to grow to this level of having a presence in 70 percent of the planet, which is part of this own perverse dynamic in which he as head of the cartel and, if not practically you, are immersed.

Chapter 19 Breath of Good dog This is a writing from the diary of Vicente Zambada Nieve that speaks when he writes many pages of when he is transferred from one prison to another in the course of the different stages he goes through to finally be extradited to the United States and in one of these prison changes when he is transferred from the highlands there in Toluca to Nuevo Laredo that they transfer him to that prison before extraditing him he talks about how he is beaten how he is humiliated and how there comes a point when they kneel him he puts him in a very uncomfortable semi-naked situation and He speaks like the police put the federal dogs there to bark at him and while another police officer was yelling at him and he preferred the dogs' breath because the federal police officer's nose smelled even worse and he writes ha ha we are talking about a name that is a kind of our self that was the Mexican where is a little monster created by his own father by this corrupt system and at the same time is a brilliant mind and is a victim is a brilliant mind that is a victim and victimizer who is a young man who at the age of 23 was when Anabel Hernández ordered his prison of choice there in the chapter the government of Mexico pays millions to companies from Mayo Zambada appears yesterday and because we also have an image where it says two nephews from Mayo settled in Los Angeles that We are going to go to the topic of Los Ángeles California and it refers to Vicente Zambada as Azueta and Modosas Salvadas Asueta, better known as La Motito, as Motita and Mott, and she is unknown precisely for publishing a letter to when Mario López Valdez Malova began his term as governor. from Sinaloa and who also only left in 2017 as governor and there in this image that says niece of mayo we very cordially congratulate citizen Mario López Valdez for his inauguration as governor we wish him the greatest success for the development and progress of our state our respect and admiration sincerely María modesta zambada zazueta motita and family what to say about a letter of this nature and the links that you are finding with these companies of mayo zambada with the governor with secretaries of state well it should be said that these come from El Mayo, sorry, Mayo's nephews are the children of his brother Vicente who was executed by the Arellano Félix at the door of his house in the 90s in Cancun when his other relatives were also there trafficking drugs receiving the large shipments of cocaine in Cancun in this Yucatan Peninsula and taking them to Culiacan and then trafficking them to the United States and other parts of the world.

These nephews moved to the United States. First they created a publication, a magazine, without any major significance, and then they created this company, Fresh Packing. I was able to speak with people directly linked to them. Motita and Motita boasted that it was fresh parking. They bought part of the legal agricultural production of May and they exported it. Bard was part of what they exported to the United States and they even became suppliers to Walmart. We are talking about, let's imagine that the agricultural products of a person who is already cataloged by the ofac of the treasury department who cannot allow any American company to do transactions with him with mayo zambada or with any of his companies his products his tomatoes his his bell peppers arrive at walmart we are talking from a company that I triedinvestigate in different ways and in a company that acts in a very strange way, it is not supposed to be a company that sells agricultural products whose main interest would be to make itself known in the market.

They do not act practically like a secret lodge. If you ask, ask for information now. I want to buy, I don't want you to be my supplier, they ask you as if you were the gestapo, no, and who gave you my phone number, well, it's on the internet, and how do you know about us, and no, I can't give you any information, you have to come here directly, I went. directly this winery and can corroborate the physical existence of this winery that is in the middle of two railroad tracks very close to Los Angeles California and the existence of this company draws my attention beyond anything because in reality and this It is part of the first things that breaks the myth and everything we had known so far about El Mayo Zambada is that in reality the Sinaloa cartel the origin is not in Mexico the origin of the cartel is in Los Angeles California it is there where mayo zambada began his criminal activities thanks to his brother-in-law a cuban who operated unpunished that the great heroin czar antonio cruz vázquez a cuban that there is a great heroin czar in las vegas' who was arrested in the 1990s 70s and that is where the name of the Zambadas appears for the first time in these first journalistic notes published at that time by the 'new york times' by washington post' small notes where he talked about this antonio cruz vázquez being the supplier of the heroin was his in-laws who were in Culiacán because he was married to modesta zambada garcía, brother of el mayo zambada and it is he who takes mayo to los angeles and it is the mallorcan who starts there his real criminal businesses, even him personally going to sell heroin and then cocaine to chicago and other parts of the usa is the true origin of the cartel los angeles is still an important epicenter culiacán culiacán is to the sinaloa cartel what los angeles is to the sinaloa cartel that is to say it is the it is the heart that it pumps blood that pumps the drugs and that pumps the money that comes back to the Sinaloa cartel there is a this also leads me to what I challenge more also in your book about the trial of Chapo Guzmán don like the dea also the government of the states united manages so that some important issues that have to do with the involvement of US agents in drug trafficking and other demons do not come up and say in your book about the contribution that the vicentillo makes to you through his lawyer on this issue of the involvement of US agents and I take it to be very relevant, Anabel, because we have a President Donald Trump who, like an ape, is on top of Mexico and blames us again and again for Mexico's responsibility in the cartels. the drug and it does not touch on the issue of who distributes it, the cartels within the United States and the role of the United States officials themselves.

What elements does your book provide about this? Well, the book does indeed, as you point out in the trial of El Chapo Guzmán. It was a very censored trial, I must say that Chapo Guzmán's own defense, and I write it in the book, looked for me before the trial began or the first weeks that the trial began because they wanted to have contact with me to have access to the information that I I don't know how they knew about this. It's likely because the meetings I had in Gayola were meetings I had with Maggio and Chapo Guzmán, many of them the three of them together discussing for hours the information that they were going to be passing on to Vicentillo.

So Vicente, I am advancing people who he says are becoming unwelcome people for the cartel and although although he was already imprisoned there in Chicago, there were things that were prohibited and vetoed, such as these agreements that the DEA had with Chapo Guzmán with Mayo Zambada and Of course, I was prohibited from speaking about a key character in these agreements, who is the lawyer Humberto Loya Castro. I had access, thanks to Fernando Gaxiola, to a fundamental letter written by Humberto Loya Castro. I have that letter signed in his handwriting where he demands the writing in the calculation of an illustrator but signed by him where Loya himself says because what at first the difference from him Vicentillo wanted was to present Loya in the court of Chicago and enforce the agreement the supposed agreement the agreement What was the cartel arguing with the cartel and in particular with Vicentillo, Humberto says I can't go, the DEA is threatening me, some personalities, some officials, some LG, some DEA agents are pressuring me so that I don't go and testify, but supposedly El Chapo I had already given him permission for him to have to testify.

In the end, they never got there because before they got there and opened Pandora's box, the prosecution and the vicenillo's defense came to an agreement, there was never that trial against the vicenillo, etcetera etcetera, the point is That in this letter he not only talks about how these DEA agents pressured him, but he speaks partly because they pressured him and partly because the Sinaloa cartel had paid their bonuses and even some highway agents, of course, unlike the government of Mexico and I have to say it because it is effectively like that in the United States, like many other parts of the world, there is corruption.

The issue is with isolated corruption in Mexico, we are talking about corruption that is clear that from head to toe, not total, not part. of these bribes and corruption of DEA agents is also part of the fact that he also tried to contaminate the rich to control that it was not known in the trial of Chapo Guzmán, it was also prevented from being wealth to get to more details about the direct bribes that Felipe Calderón Hinojosa received, who today complains a lot about the government's policy, which I also believe is a wrong policy, but we could get there later, but for his part, it is not that he has done great things, millions of bribes based on that information.

Regarding Felipe Calderón Hinojosa and Enrique Peña Nieto, in the book, what are the data that you consider the most crude that the Vicentillo reveals through his lawyer and that involve two federal executives, two former presidents in the republic and secretaries or governors, I must say that El Vicentillo, particularly his newspaper, did not talk about this situation of Felipe Calderón and Enrique Peña Nieto. He expects a situation that was discussed in the trial, which in a very controlled manner I had access to the official direct transcript of the trial and it is There where they talk about these bribe payments, what the Vicente does that seems even more interesting to me is to talk about how the mechanics of the software are, it is very simple for us, he says something that is also to keep everyone awake at night, that he says 99 percent. hundred of public officials are corrupt is what we have not said, past program I do not know I do not know any of them came to say no to my father, for example in these newspapers he talks about how Felipe Calderón goes and asks him to send an emissary and asks him a favor to the greatest sample while felipe calderón publicly told you about the war against the cartel the war against drug traffickers he sent mario arturo acosta chaparro to speak with el maggio as a messenger from the president to ask for his support to ask for a favor on behalf of the president and This is how he narrates it very simply because Vicentillo was present at our meeting and narrates it in his own handwriting, as happens in other episodes, for example, what Vicentillo narrates is about the children of Marta Sahagún, to the express question of the dea, he speaks like the children of Marta Sahagún during Vicente Fox's six-year term helped the cartel obtain chemical precursors for the production of methamphetamines, for example, and Vicentillo, before Chapo's trial, the lawyer had already told me that Vicentillo was providing information to the US government about bribes. that Enrique Peña Nieto had been paid in the campaign in the campaign and today he will not say but this was not bought with vicenillo as the one who was in jail knew.

I only remind the audience again that the lawyer was a messenger between the May zambada and his son 2011 2012 2013 2014 and 2015 and also reading your book there are not indications that it was 11 years that he was his lawyer and until he died if nothing more briefly so that people understand those who have not yet been able to listen to you with Carmen in the morning this lawyer who is a lawyer who gave her was the lawyer of the Zambada del Vicentillo family who was the el Puente but who also had a fatal illness and that is what makes everything theoretical and historical possible in a miraculous way the unpublished information that you had and in which you are publishing in summary this good lawyer I have to go back briefly to the story of the drug lords published in December 2010 that brings me all the consequences that we have talked about for so long in January 2011 I gave a telephone interview to a radio station in Chicago and Vicentillo was listening in his cell because he was the only one who had access to listen to the radio this telephone interview and he asks the lawyer to contact me, it is Vicentillo in the first instance that I asked the lawyer to contact me to tell the story of this agreement with the US because remember with drug lords I had already spoken I believed leather in him in the chapter 'Cría cuervos' I had spoken about these agreements between the CIA Pablo Escobar and some Mexican drug traffickers who had turned Mexico into the platform for cocaine trafficking to the United States and then I felt I thought that if anyone was going to believe this incredible story of the agreements between the Sinaloa cartel and the DEA it was me and that's why I The lawyer approaches me and asks me for a date in Chicago.

I see him in a seedy bar for the first time and I remember that I see him constantly touching himself, like his belly, he's totally like putting his hand under his jacket and the truth is I was already very paranoid and I thought he brought a gun, he was going to shoot me, this is a trap and at the end of the day he showed me a bandage and he told me I have been diagnosed with cancer, they just performed an operation on me but I am sick with cancer that is why the wound hurts me, the situation was what The lawyer's attitude completely changed for every bite.

At first I was playing his vice-president's lawyer, defending his interests. No, in the end, I told him if this story about the agreements with the DEA is true, give me the documents and I will publish them and effectively gave the documents and published and indirectly I was an art an actor in this game that was taking place where finally the trial never took place where he vicenillo did not have the 100% agreement that he wanted but he had a very good agreement and where the US government was able to save face and in the end everyone was left in peace after this I continued my meetings with the lawyer and the lawyer was getting sicker and started buying I was evicted I no longer had Javier there was first This cancer was under control and then it metastasized.

I had no salvation and I had many dozens of meetings with him. I keep all my notebooks. There were email exchanges where I went from being Vicente Zambada's lawyer to being a valuable informant because he wanted that it was understood that it was really the Sinaloa cartel, I wanted people to be able to see it from the inside because I think that on that threshold of death, it was like he did some way to redeem himself. Gayola, when he was very young, was a social fighter, he was a man of the left. I was able to talk to a lawyer friend of his and he was a man of ideals, a man of the left, I know it sounds contrasting that people will say how a man of the left ends up as a lawyer for drug traffickers, so because of the circumstance that he was a man with his own principles, I think I think that's how they describe him who knew him, I knew him as my source of information and I can say that with me he was always an honorable man of respect, no, and a young man, well, he died when he was in his sixties, yes, yes, yes, no, I had her here. at her age fernando fell she was already her age when she died a while ago i asked you i got confused well coming back then now to conclude i'm going to let you live my dear anabel in the mayo poster in its wide dimension am challenge more the mayo poster has presence in practically the entire American continent with the exception of Suriname French Guyana and you and Greenland operates in Mediterranean Europe Balkan and Central Asia covers countries such as Russia Turkey India China Thailand and a long list of countries the journalistic work that you do in that sense on the dimension, the reach of the Sinaloa cartel, which is infinitely greater than what we had absolutely thought and I must say that this information I say openly is not my individual investigation but is an investigation carried out by a consulting agency that provides advice to the defense From the US there is this agency throughout Aida, not on the way, it is this agency that makes this diagnosis, who is the one that makes this map that we are seeing on the screen and it is what it is, they are the ones who detect it through sources. of open information and through secret information this criminal map of the Sinaloa cartel now that I have been able to do various conferences invited by different governments of the world I can tell you that for example in Italy it is clearly identified that the Italian drug trafficker who wants even To go buy cocaine in Colombia you have to go through the Sinaloa cartel to get there you have to have a good recommendation that someone tell you, I know this friend, he is a trustworthy man, he is going to pay because in the drug world you need people who fulfillhis word, if I'm going to buy three cocaine, buy three tons of cocaine, it's because I'm going to pay you for it.

No, it's not a bucket, those sayings that he says that May told Gaxiola to the lawyer, with enough money, you can do anything, the government will always do it. having more bullets there is no point in fighting with them or buying them it is better to buy and it is what it is and practically almost all of them were sold it is a little difficult for me to believe that from a figure of 99 percent they would hardly let us and a soldier not a sailor or a police officer or anything if it were 99 percent from your point of view what your thoughts are, I do think from my experience and from what Vicenillo himself says that the corruption in Mexican institutions is practically total when we see that the 98 96 98 percent of all crimes committed in Mexico, not only large-scale organized crime but also the smallest ones, go unpunished.

We are talking about widespread corruption where there is a state that is no longer a state that has completely renounced this and that is why we live in this law of the jungle no in fact according to me it is precisely this corruption and this impunity that has led Mexico in this situation it is not poverty not something I know that the current government just its mechanics its suv its The proposal is that we are going to solve the issue of social injustice and when we resolve the issue of social injustice it will be reflected in less violence, less corruption, less drug trafficking.

It is a wrong theory. I just spoke with a research professor from the Dutch police. check anywhere it has one of the one of the most buoyant economies a balance no one will be able to say what social injustice in holland no one could think that there is starvation in holland there is a rule of law there are institutions and there it has been developed in the last five years one of the main güerito cartels of Dutch producers of methamphetamines because they are poor because there is social injustice not a precursor that they can because there is impunity that allows them to do it but considers that Holland would be a parameter for Mexico absolutely completely different stories and conditions but the phenomenon In the end we are talking about organized crime, we are talking because we should think only about countries like Mexico, Brazil, and Honduras, only in these third world countries do these wild things happen in modern countries, we are not vaccinated, we have antibodies and this does not happen here, this is not true. and when it happens it is not because of poverty it is because there is an unconscious or corrupt indifferent state that allows this to happen and in Holland people think if it can be done because I don't do it anabel hernández almost to conclude all the topics are very informative to speak and a pandora's box opens and it seems to me that we will have to keep track of it but there is one that also reminds me of ana lilia pérez and that is in pemex ships and who seems that your book is confirmed in a way that is also shockingly several Of the approaches that Ana Lilia Pérez had made, what are your thoughts, the dimension that the Pemex ships play in the trafficking, we would first have to understand that the Sinaloa cartel is different from what we had imagined according to Gaxiola in their conversations.

With Vicentillo and with a Mayo, the Sinaloa cartel is one of the main buyers of cocaine in South America. They attract it to Mexico. We are talking about 240,250 tons per year, which are then distributed in different parts of the world. The Mayo sells 80 percent of this. cocaine to different buyers some are politicians some are businessmen some are public officials and some can do it only once in their life already with that you already did it that you have been able to associate with the maggio for the purchase of a ton and that this has crossed There is already a war for life and that at least is what the Vicentino says.

There was a group of public officials and politicians who went with the magazine. Listen, sir, we want to do something like a support with you. We don't want to bring a ton or two. We don't want to. I agree, one or two of the shipments that you bring daily, we want to get two and we help with the transportation. Here are the ships, the Pemex ships. The idea is that this ship will travel to Ecuador loaded with fuel and when it returns, it will bring from Ecuador. I have I understood according to what Gaxiola himself told me that this operation could be carried out but it is not because there was necessarily how to explain what the cartel rented to the Pemex vessels if it were not the public officials themselves who formed the business because They wanted to be part of the traffickers and it is finally reconfirmed that the ships are used to transport that's how it is, but at least in this second we verify partners not only through corruption but also as associates, which is what happens with many other characters in Mexico Supposedly only Mayo Zambada keeps practically 20 percent of this cocaine.

He is at his own risk and says that he traffics it to the United States but 80% sells it to different buyers who come from different countries, not only in Mexico. If you sell parts of the world that is why Mexico experiences the violence it experiences now because it is a nodal center for drug trafficking negotiations and because it is a drug warehouse it is a country that produces drugs and it is a bottle of drugs and what is there every day This is not a question of social injustice, it is undoubtedly good to fight that but it will never be enough to fight the other because there is the amount of money and such impunity that from here you are arrested and go to jail.

The probability that you have is only 2%, 2 out of 100 and well, the crudeness is the data that your book provides, my dear Anabel, just to say goodbye, I'm going to mention only some chapter titles, which is the son of a tiger, contact in the pines in pemex ships more there is more than half of the world is sinaloa territory the empire the war according to vicentillo president felipe calderón asked my father for a favor and the pact with the dea just so that you can get an idea and a dimension of what You are going to find in this book and believe me that it is not a matter of you buying the book because that is how you are going to make money Anabel Hernández or the Grijalbo publishing house is a book that you are more than obligatory reading and in a strictly personal matter in the In recent years there are two books that I consider emblematic for understanding Mexico from the cartels, one is the hidden wars of the arc, the hidden wars of the narco by Juan Alberto Cedillo and the other is the ride of by Anabel Hernández, an extraordinary book that is devastatingly devastating and will, believe me, a lot to talk about and I hope always the leaders who control and continue to manage a large part of our country this was perspectives and dear Anabel it has been a great pleasure congratulations that the great work you have done is from the point of view your masterpiece there was not been possible without the bravery of lawyer Gage, hello, and I think that he deserves that recognition, yes, sorry, I'm already saying goodbye and goodbye, but there is one issue that I cannot forget, I cannot let go, and that is your integrity, your safety, because this book, unlike From others it seems to me that you touch to the depths of the character who had not been made visible in his right dimension that you place a chapo guzmán here and he comes back and you place mayo zambada in the place that he currently has and occupies for Mexico and the world you talk about family members, etc., you already have a protection mechanism but I don't think it's enough that you're thinking about yourself on this topic.

In terms of security, it's a difficult question and it's a question that I asked myself when I was writing the book and that I sometimes stopped at. and I thought that I'm doing where I'm going because I'm going to a crossroads because the cover and the content of the book is an inflation within the Toulouse cartel. The familiar enemies of May will know who put them in or if I had doubts about who betrayed me, today they will have the absolute guarantee even some of the drug traffickers who are today embracing mayo zambada doing business with him some of them have also already been betrayed by the vicentillo and their time awaits them they will want to continue doing business with mayo is mayo this admirable trustworthy character or the man of honor in the drug trade that many had thought is an impression within the cartel and that is the purpose of the book because it seems to me that if there are other instances in this country that have given up fighting these criminal organizations that just to erase those of Their political speeches think that they do not exist anymore, they are wrong, they are there every day, harming all Mexicans in different ways, so I made the decision, make the decision to publish this book, took the humanly possible measures that can be taken, I take full responsibility for this book in its entirety and I only hope that if something were to happen, the new commissioner of human rights, Mrs.

Ibarra, does not say, do not ask, and they kill journalists. I hope that the president of the republic does not act in a lazy manner as he has acted until now, indolent with respect to the journalists who have died, I must also say that I am not alone and that I have international support and a conglomerate of journalists who are willing to go much deeper into this material at an international level thanks to take care of yourself and through many thanks to you for having accompanied us she is anabel hernández this is a book the traitor see you next time thank you