Duterte on US relations: 'No more military exercises' | Talk to Al JazeeraJun 08, 2021
We are at the presidential palace in Manila, just over 100 days into Rodrigo Duterte's presidency. In the first exclusive interview since he took office, we speak with him about his controversial war on drugs and foreign policy, including the deterioration of
relationswith the United States United States and potentially warm
relationswith China the president of the Republic of the Philippines Rodrigo Duterte speaks to al Jazeera in the first part of our interview with president Tutera defended his war on drugs in this half hour we will
talkabout foreign policy is he is really moving his country away from the United States and if so will he move closer to China and why is he insulting so many foreign leaders. election campaign promise to crack down on drugs one thing he hasn't kept yet is his promise to ride a jet ski to the disputed territory in the South China Sea and plant the Philippi na flag there now many people many voters I guess they took it as a sign that you were going to be tough on China in that disputed territory in the South China Sea or the West Philippine Sea, but that's not why you really thought that I'd go there riding.
I don't even have it yet, but people take it as a sign that you're going to get tough with it. It was a hyperbola, literally, a table. I even know how to swim and if it capsizes and you lose a chair along the way, then why did you say that? So what did you mean? to indicate that you are willing to cede some territory they know how no one is going to cede my Madrid the adjustment that makes that is an affable you can't I can't cede it no one can cede it no one in the Constitution allows anyone to renounce it even the president can't g hold on those are our rights this is an island every country in the world has their own fishpond that's your fishpond where you can fish stocks and everything you can't give up you can only trade to avoid war remember that we are fine i will take your logic to the logical conclusion we have this correct judgment two things i can do i can get mad because it is being occupied but remember it is not a sovereign and there is the attached right if the sovereignty is ok the other is to go to the raids and fight and the other is to overcome what you think will happen to my country if I just go to work and fight alone oh I would call on the other countries to help me. who died for my country except us so we can only
talkand that's why i was invited to talks i will go what i will go with this blank paper she is a president yes i said this is the award i cant go beyond the limits of this paper let's let's talk let's b Start here The Philippines wants a landmark case against China unprecedented in recent history a smaller country taking on a superpower declared China's nine claim invalid now goes to China and has previously mentioned that He said he would not press the Philippines position on Scarborough Shoal now that his critics are questioning why he seems to be going to China and negotiating from a position of weakness rather than abstracting it, it would be arrogant for me to go there and say I am going there. to fight for this and that you know that there is a lot to learn in history and even in books and the way in which the orientals place the words in small, especially the Chinese, you have to and go there with a little courtesy, but when you are already in front of what I deduce, then I said this is, we are not going, what would it be, I am going, what would be the purpose of going there for no reason, but you can guarantee the Filipino people that will not sign walk away or lose hope of giving up fighting for Spratlys Scarborough Shoal yes, in African territory nobody, but nobody, not even the president of this country can renounce the affirmation that he is not allowed to do that that he is sure that We're going to impeachment but I can guarantee you'll fight, yeah no one's going to give up anything I said if the Constitution won't let you so who can?
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It's not even your mouth, that's what you see waiting to do when you go to China, well, maybe we'll talk about what I would know, no, I wouldn't know what means, then the bill would start, then the trial would come in, for then other matters on trade and if there's any arrangement if when I come here - happy engagement ten a week we can talk about China Sea rights but I can't really predict anything solid to talk about until I'm done so I won't be there until it's there, will they talk about the war on drugs? because records show t Many of the drugs entering the Philippines come from China.
I understand. That is why I would like to help, but you are not from China. keep control but all there is is a free enterprise mr. the president has clearly moved away from the united states why does he think it is necessary for the country to distance itself from its former ally in asia just because i go to china doesn't mean they are going to move? away from the United States but you talked about pursuing a different maritime what I'm saying is please don't be too rude to us because if you think we're bad you're in bad company you're free to go I want say you said what kind of friend are you that instead of following the normal due process process for my country when I was mayor it was fine but when I was president you should be careful because whether you like me or not I may be insignificant to you but I carry the load of sovereignty so if you start insulting me in international law or without going into legal inquiry you will shame all Filipinos so are you saying if the US had not publicly criticized the war? in drugs then relations would be normal now as it has been for no Indian if the United States had followed the normal procedure of bringing a certain violation to the attention of a country that would affect the loss of humanity, it could have followed the due process that it is no longer agreed. everyone going to the United Nations airing the complaint if you can to other people and then demanding that there should be an investigation it should start at the internal body of the United Nations because we are or the Philippines is a member of the United Nations so if they had , relations would be normal, now
militaryties would be normal. the third day you know that serious religions could result in AIDS registration which is not acceptable to us actually we call it in our dialect boy boy and in fact tagalog is a bad thing you know you give things student zero i give you these things and you are not doing what I want, that's a very serious, very serious mistake, which is why there have been some conflicting statements like mine about
militaryrelations in particular between the Philippines and the US contradictory from you and some other members of your government, can we clarify a couple of things?
Yes, military ties will military exercise with the US and now it's not snowing. by her predecessor Amy a mana review with the military authorities how she feels now they should know my opinion well it would depend on the advice of the military and what is their opinion what they know my opinion everyone knows my opinion they don't I don't know for myself that you'll end it because i said if i mean a i'm if i met someone company then why bear with me so that's pointless but basically you're saying i said you have the forest or the army you also have a mutual defense agreements mutual defense treaty that was signed in 1951, will you move away from that?
I will make another brigade now, let me ask you this question and tell me frankly, is it really necessary for me to maintain military ties with anyone, and even with Africa and Somalia, not now, let me ask this question after having said that if there really is a third war global for all ICBMs and poseidons and land airbase and disguise if it's going to be a third way and everyone insists it's a nuclear power china russia usa would there be enough time to talk about the third way maybe not , but their relationships go way beyond things like that with my ways they go to a disaster relief things like that you're not putting all of that right I don't know they'll be there for us but they were Typhoon Haiyan just a few years.
Oh what a typhoon Haiyan that's not the water and if they want to go oh you can give it up all nations will come or We will die twice as number one so Heian is just a creation of the rich climate change that the industrial countries also created and helped to grow. In terms of gas emissions, you are here. We would like to reach this limit, but we all know that it is a proportion. a d ratio along the way looks stupid it has reached the heights of industrialization all these years it was dumping all gas coal and all footprints sir we had little or nothing little to do with it now we would like to get to where it is now but they are also controlled because like this and until the end of the world it will always be like this, so some interested countries deliver the commercial, we go to our place in Paris or we go to Canada or South America so we discuss about it, but you know we have this guy we would like to help you but don't try to catch up and get ahead of us because it would contribute a lot of carbon emissions and who is responsible for climate assessment super behind einen I was responsible for tornado monsters from Tehran and shouldn't emphasize the countries we had nothing to do with.
President, yes, Filipinos love America historically, it is the strongest ally in Asia, if you distance yourself from it, don't worry, it will be an unpopular decision with your people in the first place, if they had been here in the Philippines, they wouldn't have there was a second world war for the battle of banila killed about this he said 200,000 people the enemies came because they were also here in the first place they stayed here for fifty years and it is true that the enemies came because they don't know they don't imagine philippines without an American, any Japanese, has sent so many battalions and their imperial armies to occupy the designer, he thinks it would be better, but if you go back in time, what would be the sensor that sends yours unless you occupy your and occupy your world , by the way, the world? is looking out for the United States right now with the election campaign going on there who would you rather work with in the White House Hillary Clinton or Donal d Trump, you or we were behind this because I said I am the president of a sovereign state, we're not supposed to say anything about politics and like the US ambassador when he was asked a question in a speech of mine about his lair of women about women it wasn't it was at a race at an open event that actually happened and that's why i told his agent he can check it out so he's saying i said sports in anger when i saw the women being killed and raped therefore you wouldn't reveal now who you'd rather collaborate with between Clinton and Trump.
I have my preferences. I have my preferences. Of course, it is obvious to you. the most controversial Oh bully right now you've cussed out Obama you told the EU and the UN basically you said go to hell do you think that though and a lot of people are pretty shocked by such statements , do you think, however, that you have indeed fulfilled your duty as the country's top diplomat, yes, I will tell you the secret, why, my behavior because I did not have the opportunity to explain and if I did, no one listened to me and the lies that I started on this extrajudicial thing.
The murders just kept piling up. I was boxed in. I could read it every day and you know there are Filipinos who may or may not agree with it, so they are called him. Because you do not answer? I kept answering, but no one was. i even explained to the local papers what my defense could be to get attention from him except CBS now when i said BS haha everyone was interested now so what is it? The insult can be a defense. started wearing profanity epithets cussing that deal this was this guy this guy is something new he's uncivilized and coughed and it's all good you can comb it all listen to what i'm saying now so i had this chance with everyone after this day is another and there is another do you agree with your spokesperson that everything you say is subject to creative interpretation? don't you mean what you say? is this is long he actually threw it at Tiny's is the usual our longest motherfucker ladies would seldom again or Sanibel gun is never interpreted no English phrase called son of you can ask anyone in the media and on anywhere we never go to tate the son of with the son of but don't you think the word is pretty terrible but don't you think the role of a president when you address another president of another country that there is a certain level of language a certain level of behavior that is expected if I try to answer no dad but my answers were never published I could not even hear my own words my explanation and I even told him to go to hell yes because that is the moment now that they would listen to my explanation no nobody i was not posting it here and i said it was a very discouraged thing i said as important as it may seem to you guys please don't do thatbecause i am president because i have to ask this they have publicly criticized the united states for the atrocities it committed during the first american war in the early 1900s those atrocities were committed against moral muslims in the southern philippines now but their critics wonder why it is silent in general about the much greater atrocities committed
morerecently by the dictatorial regime of the former President Ferdinand Marcos is a political issue that really is already there there is no need to repeat it every day because if there is no reason to insist on it and to say it we're talking about Marcos we were talking about Obama so he's already there iiiiii in a sense he was also there that night they think the reason you haven't mentioned him is because you're allied with the Marcos family here it's political everything is politics if you want support me and they did it they did it in the last elections it's fine it's a change in the n numbers but i dont have to repeat the edge sorry balut every day before breakfast and say it with me prayer they have said that ex president ferdinand marcos was the best president of the philippines and yet he ruled with an iron fist even a dictator thousands of people were murdered his talent disability has nothing to do with this desire to be perpetuated ok but that's another thing except i'm repairing a person's brain what if you are frustrated by the democratic processes in this country by the bureaucracy bureaucracy trying to do things democratically would you consider returning this country to a dictator? hip, funnily enough, they actually see what's happening now, how many hours did you dig up to travel later to travel here? yes, how many? oh, they can take hours, they're giving me emergency powers.
I think it is not necessary to go to Marshall. in the sense that Congress is also quite helpful in the sense that they're considering giving me emergency powers, the bidding, all you have to do is say, okay, is it a great company or does it have a track record, is it something like that and what is it the the next step after that is a the next step is when it says its only good for 200 days because on a date then you stop it and then you go back to the DB what david i just fought your question but it would be something that it's if this country was still a born engine if you get frustrated with how the long democratic process the long legal process of getting things done when you're just serious about what you were doing do you think it's really pathetic because you know politics and everything but our government is so designed that everyone has to expect it to be a piece of cake and 82 you are a very controversial figure some of your methods are considered almost authoritarian a lot of people are getting nervous and people would like to know ber Where are you taking this country?
I don't know for the life of me. I have yet to remember what they did that would indicate that I have the traces of being dictatorial, well from day one. Tate of what I can't remember is an incident here an event would indicate at least I have traces of being tend to be dictatorial just put it that way I've always been a good boy a holy man in this good us just over a hundred days after your presidency now has just under six years left in your term from a personal point of view the stress of work the criticism the long hours how you think you will handle the next 71 i was in the hospital last night society the rush of a non-job came I was itchy all over there was a show yesterday and I couldn't help but scratch my body it became
moretalking more problems my little haste and everything yesterday was already inside and I could barely help but scratch myself all over the place well actually it contributes a lot to the area of comfort of a person where you feel that when you work at night you feel good you sleep feeling good come on those are the things that huh those are the lockdown service that I start is available here but you have to be here because this is empowering how you would like to be remembered as president what your legacy would be what you would like it to be don't just say Rodrigo the Rodrigo Duterte coup try this verse well mr.
President thank you very much for speaking to Al Jazeera thank you
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