Choosing a backerboards for your shower Cement board versus Foam boards

Well, I have several types of backing

board

s here, this is Heidi, it's a quarter inch version, so it's the half inch version, same thing. This is Dorock, this is

cement

board

, this is normal

cement

board, this is wedi, this is Schluter Kerdi. Board, so I thought I'd do a little test as a little demonstration to show what the difference is between modern materials and some more traditional materials and what I'm talking about is

foam

boards

versus cement

boards

and just show the difference. how they react with water now, in addition to the fact that cement panels are much heavier, they are much more complicated to install compared to modern

foam

panels, the waterproofing benefits when you go to a foam panel.

Now what I'm demonstrating here is for a wet area, of course, if you're laying a cement support unit like a Durock do or Hardie or a Wonder board on a floor, you obviously don't need to waterproof it, however, when you use it. those materials in a

shower

need to provide some type of water management and usually the water management will be done in a traditional system, it will be behind the board as a vapor barrier, a slightly more modern application would be to apply a membrane liquid applied waterproofing or you can make it completely waterproof and you know in the sense that you can apply a sheet of membrane like Kirdi or some other sheet of membrane over the board and turn it and make it waterproof that way in any case you don't want to.

Simply hang

your

board on the studs with nothing and then install the tile. It is necessary to have some type of water control on the board and this requires that this demonstration that they will show you is just about that, it is just to show what these cement boards are like. very porous and they absorb water and the other boards here like I have I have a hardiebacker cement board a Schluter kerdi-board kerdi-board wedi hydro Ban Board from Laticrete and the USG foam board so let's go to the demo and before we do it As always, don't forget to subscribe, visit my online store dibsmart.com, leave

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I'll leave links in the description. and also put some links on the cards to other videos that might be of interest. Thank you. Okay, I have several types of backing boards here. This is Heidi. It's a quarter inch version, so the half inch version is exactly the same. It's Durock, it's a cement board, just a normal cement board, this is Wedi, this is Schluter's kerdi board, this is Laticrete's hydroban board and this is USG, their foam board, so this one has the same material on all sides, it's just a Actually, this is a fiber cement board, so it's actually a little bit different than this one here, but it's a cement board, this is a cementation behind a unit that It's actually the same thing, the same material all the way, we have a fiberglass mesh on the front. the back to reinforce it this is Wedi, it has this like a polymer cement coating on the front of the back and it's not actually waterproof but the core is completely waterproof Kerdi-board waterproof membrane on the front waterproof membrane on the front side and the foam core which is also waterproof and the same for the Hydro Laticrete Hydra strip board waterproofing on the front side, waterproofing on the back side and the waterproof foam core and again for the USG foam board, so these require waterproofing when you install them or need a vapor barrier. behind them or need a topical water proofing on top to make them waterproof, these will absorb water, these ones here on the other hand are completely waterproof as that is the only thing in the treatment of the scenes and the curve in the corners and this is what I consider a modern system, this is what I consider a traditional system.

I feel like these are better than these, so I'm going to do a little demo, so I'm going to have some water here. I'm just going to pour a little bit. each one and then we'll let it sit for a few minutes if I can keep it from spilling all over the counter okay I'll let them sit and we'll come back for a few minutes and see what happens okay? I'm back, they've been sitting for about ten minutes on all the boards. There is absolutely no penetration into the surface of the board here except into the wedi, but that's because the center of the board is waterproof.

I'm going to wipe them with a second, this has almost completely absorbed all the water and the same with Heidi's backing board, so let's wipe this off, okay, wipe this one, wipe this one, this one and this one, so now they're completely dry , completely safe for water. completely water safe completely water safe yes this is a core it is completely waterproof now Heidi is still absorbing the water into the tiles it didn't look like it lasted all the way and these are all works of art for the cure a lot time, actually it's okay when all the way, look at that, all the way, all the way, so and these here obviously dry on the back dry on the back dry on the back on the back this one here is just the resistant The sponsor absorbs it, so that's interesting and complete anyway, so I just wanted to make a point here: what would you want in your program?

Would you want a completely waterproof plate or would you want them when you see someone installing these plates and? They are not taking the proper steps to install them and by that I mean you have to put a waterproof vapor barrier behind the board or you have to apply a liquid waterproofing membrane on the front, no you can't you shouldn't do that. without any of the others so that's why I went to when I install a

shower

this is the one I use the most because it's easier for me but these two are just as good so the advantage of this one over these The second one is that you don't need washes, this Wedi and Schluter need washing, the Hydro ban board and the USG foam board do not need washing, but other than that, they are exactly the same in the sense of the protection you get. a stolen system or a traditional system so that's just my opinion on these systems so I removed the core in the front just to show that it wasn't wet and in the back and the center here where you know, in the center here where that.

I just want to make sure that you know how to demonstrate this exactly what I'm saying, so I'm going to fill it with water that will hopefully stay for a few minutes and I'll go in the back when I put it in and it fills with the water that it needs. to see how this, yeah, that just absorbs, do it, just absorbs it. That's why I don't use these products anymore, it's a pain, okay, so it's been there for a good 10 minutes, don't spill. Keep my counter perfectly dry on the back for the blue core to be waterproofing in the Wedi system.