Carragher and Keane give their views on Man City’s Champions League ban by UEFA | MNF
don't forget though that fifth-place could be enough as things stand you heard the breaking news on Friday nights around Manchester
Cityreceiving a two-year ban from European football for breaching financial Fairplay regulations as we've heard already they will fight the charges robustly and they plan to appeal first of all to the Court of Arbitration for sport there are so many different angles to this story but let's start with the football side of things and we've heard Pett being quoted already saying whatever happens he plans to stay but what if you're one of those players in that dressing room and that ban is upheld Roy that two-year ban there are only two players in that Manchester
Citysquad who have won the European Cup and that's the two backup goalkeepers would you not be tempted in
theirposition to seek a move elsewhere I think it's difficult I think it's a big blow to him obviously I think from the players point of view if I was in that dressing room digit of it I'm getting is that they'll probably appeal it and if I think one year you get your head round at the two years a big blow the only other side to it I think maybe this year might make them more determined to try and win it would that be your reaction in there yeah you're trying you have to try and look at the positives if obviously the appeal in it but if they don't something wrong you've got to take your medicine but if they appeal it mr. one year...
that's not too bad two years is a big blow but or talk about mine silly we have to remind ourselves man said you've never been in a final there's no guarantee that were going to win over the next one or two years but it's obviously very damaging for the club for in terms
theirbrand the financial side of it you're on about attracting the best players but I still think
citythere's still other challenges out there in terms of trying to win the
leaguetitle and I think when you've got Pep quadrille at your club you know you're still gonna attract for a very good players how do you see it Jamie because again all the information we have in it is a two-year ban if it's upheld some of these players are coming into the best period in
theircareer this might be the best chance maybe the only chance they have of challenging for the gym none of them players should be even thinking about leaving one
citybecause the way I look worried what Manchester
Cityhad been accused of being guilty of at this mall of being bang for is basically so they can spend more in the transfer market or spend on plate more on players wages because of this more than hoping enough money in from sponsors or revenue those players up and sitting and all 300 350 grand a week I'm an sis he actually fault no what I'm saying is they getting paid those wages that probably
cityand supposed to be paying that's why they being abandoned and those players has really said...
it's not exactly they've been there a few years been very successfully being brilliant for Man
Citygotten what do you're appealing cool think of what it seems about sanctions you think the events us what briefed on did there and they went down early stayed there was real to the club that's what these players should be doing really and you really mentioned about the fact it'll make them more fired up this season to go for it and I can't believe that in the competition no and not because I'm saying this from a Liverpool points where I want
cityall the competition what would happen if
citywin this competition this season the favorites for it they're one of the best teams in Europe it'll make a mockery of the competition if if they UEFA would be desperate for mine cities got beat by Real Madrid absolutely desperate can you imagine people from your way for happen to
givethe Corp in Istanbul to a Man
theirlift in it the first question pep guardiola get out after the game is this a faith win is it like Barcelona you began ask questions about the merits of the club should we be in the competition so they're in a competition now if they win it it'll be almost be be tainted it'll be the biggest thing
cityI've ever done or any club can do isn't a bit anyway wouldn't it pardon it would have been anyway what would my gonna be the biggest thing they'd ever done with the biggest thing any team can do club teams...
the biggest thing you can win but the things that be getting through at pep guardiola at a press conference five minutes later and those players will be about should they be in the competition I think for UEFA they should the ballot took mine
cityof the competition right now all you should they left this decision to appeal isn't it which is why they're still in yeah but this appears gonna go to Cass if my sister you lose that appeal then they go to the Swiss court it'll just be ongoing and on ongoing and potentially European Commission after that so the anyways for some time let's bring in Gary Neville who's commentating for us at Stamford Bridge receiving an interesting Gary to get your perspective on this as a club owner of course or do you make of it all it was interested in listening to judge Curie
given going through the courts January I mean I prefer the long held view on FFP people will say it's because I'm a builder of sulphate
cityand essentially we would still be in the mystic north if we weren't able to invest more even though it's obviously not applied at that level but the idea that manager
Citynot able to invest the money of the ownership I disagree with I've always felt FFP is the wrong way to apply the financial rules my hometown club Barry Webb Bush last year which obviously a club that very close to my heart and I think FFP was brought in to stop clubs essentially going bust however there are different ways of...
achieving that in all of the forms of business there are bank guarantees there are bonds that are owned as pledges you know ultimately if owners sign up to contracts or allow contracts to sign onto
theirownership then they should have the money in place to be able to fulfill those contracts I think manager cities owners have got that I think if you look at what Chelsea managed to sit see Lester Blackburn going back twenty odd years under Jack Walker we would never see the emergence of these clubs if you like below what would be the Manchester United's Liverpool's Arsenal's who have got all the sort of history the revenue the tradition to be able to compete under FFP what we're saying is the FFP stifles investment in two football clubs that can stimulate communities like Blackburn like other clubs I obviously have an order it's all furred you know we would never be able to do what we're doing if we didn't weren't allowed to invest into our club and we're saying that essentially we should create a status quo in football almost like a franchise and I think the top clubs in Europe probably like - united by a Munich Barcelona Real Madrid they would take football towards a franchise type model if we didn't have the emergence of clubs who could invest in owners who could invest in other clubs there are negatives with that and there have been some horror stories of where owners essentially have invested into clubs and then they've not...
followed through with
theircommitments that's got to be stopped but there are other ways of stopping that without applying FFP so I have a real problem with FFP to start with I have done four to be fair for seven or eight years I don't think it's the right way to apply it I think
citywill beat UEFA I think you a four I've got no faith in them whatsoever I think essentially they're a hopeless organization it will just apply to be fair what would be erratic disciplinary sanctions for four different things and I think
citywill beat them in the courts I think it'll get stuck in the courts for some time but I thinks it's your win in the end well I'm and with him in terms of FFP the financial fear play what fear about a club like Manchester
Citywho for besides a few years in the 60s and 70s have always been a Manchester United shadow are they gonna accept that for the rest of
theirlives how was it ever change it wouldn't change unless an ownership like that came in what they do it gradually gradually stainable way you afer have talked about it David originally they talked about and just hear me out on this they talked about introducing FFP to it to restrict some of the worst excesses of the game Michel Platini talked about financial doping at the time and trying to encourage responsible spending I can see you're shaking your head on that Gary go on Gary yeah to suggest that to suggest that manager
Citycould ever catch Manchester United...
through sustainable organic growth is just absolutely nonsense money United a so far in front with revenue with scale with fan base with everything compared to
Citythe only way
Citycould ever get to a level playing field with Manchester United was through him owner investment now do I like it from a point of view that I want manage two cities to succeed no because I would rather Manchester United be successful but the idea have been anti-competitive in football is ridiculous the idea that the same two or three clubs are able to win every single year through financial mites is anti-competitive it goes against everything that we believe in in this country so from my point of view clubs have to be able to invest so you all just have to be able to invest in two football clubs but the minute that they come in the obligations that they sign up to financially should have to be covered by bond parent company guarantee bank guarantee Barry's situation is absolute the worst case of where fit and proper owners tests there's two different things here there should be should be fits in proper owners tests and then should be coverage of obligation there two things that should absolutely happen in every football club FFP is a nonsense as far as I'm concerned it's those two things I've mentioned before which should be put in place do you agree Roy with what Gary see the only thing that worries me among solidus is surely the clubs have all signed up for this they've...
obviously agreed I think signed off for it so you know if they sign off for it you gotta play by the rules what is fair or not they've obviously come together I'm sure all the bigger clubs come together I'm sure they're there they're calling the shots and if they signed up for it then they've gotta go with Roy Aggie Bakari I don't have any time for financial fair play it's not fair to Old