Best & Worst Airsoft Gear - NSRT Ep.154

154 welcome to the Thunderdome, I don't know why this is the Thunderdome, but welcome to our latest episode, as you can see, despite it being 2021, we are still dealing with the, well, they have greed cushions and therefore they don't We are just social. distance, but we and the crew until we started filming this have been wearing masks, so I think we can take them off for now so you can understand what the hell we're saying. Can you, yes, if you're not familiar with how not? Roundtable Works is a show where George and I answer your

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George, yeah, that was fun, yeah, for a while we were taking advantage, I think we found some good ones, but yeah, that was a long time ago, yeah, it's also fun to go back to the old questions and read the context. in which they were written at the time, like what products existed or if you know the style of the players at the time, but without further ado, let's get straight to the questions, oh George, would you like to start with us? I looked at you like you knew I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I was. Looking away, so this is from the gray wolf of airsoft.

I love my tavora, especially for cqb, but my question is why ball pubs are not as common in the countryside. I think the compact size would give you more advantages. That is a good question. and it's probably pretty easy to answer, so I'll answer. What I think is that probably most people think they are ugly. The ergonomics of the AR are pretty much where we are at the moment. 60 years. Yes, well, you know from the basics. You already know it from the first gun light, so it's hard to beat, but it makes a good point and with that longer internal barrel you can make, you can make a really compact rifle shoot very, very far, that's true, as if a precision increase is really Well, if you write boring, it's true, it's the version three

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I will say that of all the bullpups that I think we've used in airsoft, the best reloading system has been the tavor, uh, in terms of being able to drop the magazine. efficiently and not just in the looks department, but I would say that like you said the ergonomics are very different from what is standard, a lot of people don't want to take the time to relearn how to use the battle rifle just to use it . something unique, couple who know the difficulty of reloading, uh, which is funny because the bullpup target is supposed to be easier to reload, but I haven't found that to be true, no, yeah, I haven't, but I mean, maybe. like I said, I think it's a little bit because it looks cool, um and then maybe just because of the popularity, it's like it's not the most popular thing, you know, I guess so, okay, so let's look at the first one. of the first bullpup in history. airsoft fames yeah trash fire i mean there was only one reason it was only the only reason the japanese made the fames as their first right was because of metal

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solid.

It was around the same time the original metal gear solid came out. why was it the usb so or the hk socom and those were the guns that people built first for tokyo marie, well some of the first ones right, no, don't quote me, I don't know much about the history of airsoft. so don't roast me, but we had the right Famas, yeah, and the Famas uh, compared to the later AEG versions, they used a single magazine compared to an M4, so those kind of specialized magazines required and then the next bullpup. I guess it was the aug that also used single mags yeah and then you could argue that the p90 is a bullpup type that uses single mags and none of them are really conducive to rounding out an existing arsenal when you have everything when you already have let's say , an m4 or something that requires an m4 style magazine and now all of a sudden you have to buy new magazines so I think maybe that's why they're not as popular, that's discounting of course the huge ones. advantage you mentioned about length versus barrel length, yeah, like you can clear doors and rooms with a bullpup and still have the range to be more than effective outdoors, especially like you said with the August where you have the ability to just pierce it and you have range for days, a compact August, basically I think it can have the same internal barrel as an AK-47, which has a long internal barrel length, like 450, you know, millimeters, 450 millimeters of range, I mean , maybe I think it's something else. might hinder it is because you mentioned that magazines are kind of proprietary because all the magazine development for midcaps has been done in m4 and maybe some ak mags maybe like to use an old school style midcap for an august it's like probably I don't want to say, I don't know off the top of my head, but probably not as much as an m4, that's true, okay, but we have the f-2000, so the f-2000 comes out and they say, look, I have m4 magazines, yes, and this horrible weapon is not horrible.

Sorry if you like F2000s, they're great, but I mean, like the only dance pub, the only dance pub that I think at the moment I might like. The tavor is quite attractive. The new kel-tec rdb looks great, but I haven't used it yet. I don't know ergonomics. I think it was always great for me, but I don't know. I never wanted to build one, but maybe. If I don't know, I think based on the kind of initial exposure I had to the rdb and you know we're playing with it, I'll say that it's probably one of the best bullpup platforms currently available or that it will be available at the time of this filming and because since he uses AK Mags, I think he has the ability to use AK Right Right Mags Mason, do I know what I'm talking about?

No, no, I guess we don't know single magazines. I suppose not. anyway looks great whatever lets move on to the next question ok thanks that's a good question what do you use the rdb m4 for eh i knew that yeah actually i was just about to say it no sorry yeah use m4 max im an idiot i mean you. can they build those ak bullpups like the ones in the ghk kits, oh yeah, or did they do the didn't they do a scar bullpup conversion? Yes, it looks nice, yes, quite disgusting. Okay, this one is from I'm not going to say your name because it's not. appropriate, of course, I would pull this one, this one is from cms, if you know, you know, the question is why is there such a drastic difference between airsoft play in the United States and Europe.

This is going to be difficult because none of us have really played in Europe. but based on what we've seen, I mean we didn't play in Japan, but we did witness what the game is like in Japan outside of the US. You know it's hard, to be honest with you, I would like it. to say that Europe is also drama-free when it comes to video games, but that's probably not true, so I think maybe it's a very good question, maybe it's just that our conflicting personalities mix more, maybe it's not I know, so I think it's okay.

So I've thought about this before and not because I read the question, but I've thought about this before because I was interested in liking the burger and I think for me it comes down to two things. It all comes down to budget and availability. Europe has traditionally had much higher import costs to get airsoft to the right country, meaning players have to spend a lot more money to get into the game and I think a higher cost narrows the player base down to those. who really wants to do it right, it's not that cheap, it's a disposable hobby, it's like you do it some weekends and not others.

You have to be devoted if you want to be in airsoft, correct and devoted airsoft players generally play harder. quite uh compared to compared to kind of the feeling you get when you play here uh and I think the second reason is access to the locations because a lot of Europe that plays airsoft was involved in World War II, there are a lot of air bases. and old battlefields and the like can be used to play airsoft, so diving in a million and then accessing those fields really gets you into the game in a way that maybe an indoor plywood field doesn't.

We are seeing a lot more indoor cqb style games, like speed qb type things, in France and yes, and in other countries where that is gaining popularity and I think that is probably due to American influence and social media, but I would say that those are maybe my The two main reasons you like the difference is because you know that the United States has easier access to airsoft guns, being cheaper, you get much younger players and maybe a lot less hardcore players. playing because they can afford to do so and because you can reach your level. local, you know, warehouse in your field, if you have one and you play on a weekend, it is not necessary, you do not have to spend as much time being in the game and that I think also generates, we are fashionable. -jumping out of American culture and being cool, I think it's really helpful, I think a lot of the answers you say are really good, I mean, I think we can agree on this, you know, since we've traveled.

In America, for the most part, I think they're a different state, like the west coast versus the east coast versus the southern midwest, you know, Texas, oh, these players have very different personalities in the way they act, yeah, you know, like the players would do in Texas. You act very differently than people in New York or even California, or you know, in my experience, who would you say who? Well then what state have we been in? That he had the most honest players. NY. I was going to say it seemed like bad blood. It will always be New York, yes, but you know I have a reason why Bad Blood.

The thing is, the only place I played in New York was for Bad Blood and the reason is because it's completely automatic like you, which I mean realistically, that's why there really isn't much of an issue regarding hitting people because it's completely automatic and not only is it a huge game so it's just a bb fest that's true so I think that's one of the reasons but you also don't see a lot of what I saw. I don't really see many egos clashing in those kind of games, yeah, too much, yeah, no, I'm, we are, yeah, probably the most honest, for sure, the least honest, I don't want to, I mean, at least I just pray to California , so, uh. yeah less honest I would say california yeah I mean I'm being honest not so much in cqb but outdoors probably yeah I mean I based it on all the cheater videos where they always filmed that you know yeah . well it's usually california, it's usually california or what is it, i forgot it was georgia or florida, they have that indoor game where there are a ton of similar videos with people attacking the players, i think it's florida, i don't know. whatever it is it's california we suck at a bunch of successful shrugs okay you want to ask another question i mean what's really fun is maybe an episode where we can literally just roast each region similar because I have some stories that are just good about each region.

I don't want to get into that now, we all know that the most honest airsoft players are from Canada, yeah, okay, I don't know, or at least the most important, combative or combat, uh, how old is too old to start playing with airsoft? I was probably never going to say no, I don't think any age is too old, well I would say it's probably too old if you go out and get hurt while playing, uh, without doing any, you know, crazy kung fu moves, but yeah you're going to go out and get hurt, you might want to do it, either, take it easy, you know, provide covering fire and don't try to eat a ham sandwich, but I don't think it's too old to start with, I think it's too . young, yes, I think there is a person too young, you know, I think the only thing that would maybe benefit younger airsoft players is to have younger airsoft gentlemen and I think that can only be in cqb arenas, and I think that everything should be a single jewel. with two or, so it's really missing, you know, like you know, that was a Japan thing.

I noticed a much younger audience in some places and it's probably not a problem because it's a gem and a lot more women too, which was great, yeah, you know. I think the one gem could probably solve that problem, but you know, I thinkSo having it, I think having age ranges, if airsoft ever gets big enough in the US, can really help. Don't you know, for sure, there is nothing wrong with playing with your child. um but you know within reason uh yeah I mean obviously there are exceptions to the rule as you know I could say that as a general rule you know 12 is a little young you know 11 12 is a little young to start playing on Air South. but there are exceptions to the rule, let's not say like I say that if you are under 12 you shouldn't play airsoft, I'm just saying that for most arenas that's a little young and, if we had groups where you could do you know what?

Youngins nights sound terrible? Yeah, that's good, remember that's a lot better than Youth Nights remember Tech City training camp like that was a good concept, it was just so you know, it was during the summer, it was during the day, it was like a summer camp, yeah, and it was just for kids to play airsoft, you know, and there's less of it. pressure, well I mean mate, even when we did the airsoft camp we had a younger player base, yeah they make up the majority of the people that came, I think they had a lot more fun because it was a slower pace, it wasn't as intense like you.

I don't have a bunch of 30 year old guys yelling and moving well apart from us, I mean there's something else here and this is probably like getting into the region that bothers you the most when you play airsoft and I know there are some adults who want to take it very hard. Seriously when you're surrounded by kids playing at your local stadium you just relax, literally you just relax and you know, it's not your super hard milsim game and if that's what you want then go to those. Honestly, don't go to events and act like that, don't even act like that at those events, but if you're going to act like that, at least do it there instead of doing it with the younger generation because like all you can do at that point is take them away from the sport and that's the future of the sport or even worse you're teaching them that's the way you're teaching them to play airsoft well and then they'll just get old and then and then continue with that negative style of play uh super alpha and that's, I don't know, I don't think there's anything, I don't think airsoft requires action violence, no, I mean, that's how you know it does it, but it does say that. to zip, yeah, I was going to say, although I mean, in a lot of ways, I think you and I are glad that's not the case anymore, right, yeah, no, I think even people you know played back then.

I never played zip, but my friends did. Who probably doesn't like remembering the stories either, but I don't think they want it to go away? I want to go back and do it, yes, God, I remember coming home after games, bleeding, yes, literally. bleeding, yes, yes, no, I'm fine, it's fine, the next question is from hannah, who is a uh, what are those words called Ryan that are spelled the same backwards and forwards? onomatopoeia no, it's not that, no, it's a race car, hannah, I don't. I don't know lol I don't know yeah okay anyway whatever Hannah great question hey everyone hey everyone.

I recently started watching airsoft videos like jet leah dayton and dayton and was wondering why there seemed to be any. There aren't a huge amount of women in airsoft or the firearms industry in general, there are women in the actual gun industry and airsoft. Unfortunately, there's a fine line between being a woman who plays airsoft and being a gun bunny and I don't think it's necessary. be a big place for armed bunnies just to sell products yeah, I'm okay with that, I think you know, um, it's also like, I mean, I know this, this sounds cliché, I mean, I'm not saying a site is exclusive , this is an exclusive for, you know, mailing to airsoft players or whatever, it's not a sport for everyone you know, I don't really care, it's a fair chance to play with whoever you are, that he said, although you only know for sure. things, certain hobbies appeal to certain demographics, they're just facts, you know, I'm probably not going to be interested in buying clothes as much as my wife would be, for example, yeah, or I'm not going to be in, you know, in Al At the same time, your girlfriend might not be interested in woodworking, for example, yeah, you know, there are just hobbies that are generally biased one way or another, um, you know, we definitely welcome anyone who wants to try, You know, I know some female shooters who are very good shooters in the firearms ministry who really like to care about firearms, they really enjoy firearms, there's nothing wrong with that, it's just not for everyone, most, you know, some people just aren't going to get into this, that's all, I think.

I think one of the biggest factors in attracting new players to the game these days has a lot to do with social media and content being consumed online and we have a lot of players saying, “Oh, you know, I stumbled upon this video from youtube where I saw this guy attack a bunch of people or you know, I saw this and that and I think there's just not a lot of support in the industry for female airsoft players who want to make their own Content, I mean we see a lot of sponsorships throughout the industry for male players and there isn't much support for female players outside of you know Leah and players like her in the US.

I think you see a lot more European women Air Softeners who have a large number of. followers, yes, you know femme fatale is very popular in the UK, but I mean, you know there are quite a few, there are quite a few in Europe compared to the US and I think if you saw more industry -Wide support for. Airsoft players like the game and they like it and they like to celebrate it by playing airsoft. She's just an airsoft player instead of hey, she looks at the gun she's holding as camouflages tighter than necessary, you know or like I don't know, I think.

It really has more to do with the way air softeners are promoted rather than shown off like every other airsoft player and I think that goes a long way towards putting off potential female players because they see that and say that's it. I'm not really, you know that's not how I look or that's not what I like or that's, you don't know, that's not the style of play I want to get into. I agree with that, but I don't actually agree with what I'm saying. It's like I think that would be a motivation for someone who doesn't want that to do the opposite, sure that's what they would do, that's what I would think, at least I mean, you know, so you know, I certainly would think that that it would be like, oh well, I don't want airsoft to be like that, representing women this way, I want it to be, yeah, and that's what the hunting industry did to be honest, yeah, I mean, if you look the hunting industry, were probably in that direction. like a little bit in the '70s and '80s and then they started saying no, just treat them the same and, you know, it's helped the hunting industry at least attract a lot more females to that hobby, yeah, I would love that. see more girl players yeah I think it would be cool too uh diablo pyro question with the growing popularity and call of duty warzone I thought I'd ask how you think a battle royale style game for 100 players would work in airsoft I love content I've always been watching the evic video from early 2011.

Stay safe and keep up the great work. Thank you for your dedication. It's a long time. Since I've been in this game. I was going to say friend. That was pretty much as long as we've been here, well I started in 2011, you started in 2010. Anyway, um Warzone, I don't know what that is, uh, it's like it's just a battle royale, Call of Duty, Siri, you know, um, I mean. I think Battle Royale is popular in video games because it can be quite engaging in games like airsoft. It's very different for number one items where you or the types of games where you collect items.

The only way to do it is for 100 players. you're going to make everyone leave their gun on the field and be okay with other players using it, most people aren't like that so you'd have to have a problem, yeah to do it you have to do it you know , do that kind of thing. games that you need to have as a big sponsor to just donate all the products that are used, yes, and it's still a big task, you know, how would you do it, it's a good idea, I'm not saying I could. It can't be done, yeah, um, you know, and it could be fun, you know, um, it comes down to a lot of things, you know, honesty, a little bit, you know, making sure that people are, you know, that It's a cut game.

It's more important for people to be honest with other regular airsoft games, yeah, because you know it's singles, so it really has to be super honest to the point where if you're not honest in a two team type. things like one player isn't really going to make a big difference, yeah, you know, eventually they'll get shot enough to scream or whatever, but when you're in these huge 1v1s, especially if there's money involved or something like that. Like I was referring to the Mr. Beast thing, yeah, you know, who really knows what's going to happen, so yeah, I was going to say that's probably the biggest obstacle to overcome, if you have 100 players on the field, There's even less incentive, to be honest, because it's every man for himself and if you fall, there's no one else out there to help you or to achieve the goal, so people will say no, you know.

I'm going to be a lone wolf and no one is going to hit me. I'm going to be the coolest guy ever and that just doesn't work or they won't move, they won't take risks, they won't have. fun and on top of that, even if you throw it out, let's say there's no reward for winning, right, there's no reward for winning at all, imagine you get, you're like the guy who dies first or second and then let's say you're like that. On a normal day at a course, you're waiting forever for the next game and you probably might like it, you couldn't even shoot a gun like that player.

Those first 10 players you get knocked out will probably do so before they even find a weapon. yeah, and then they're sitting there, they're sitting there and they're not having as much fun as I am, I just don't think it would be cool if you like a stage where you had people invited to participate and it's huge. a big airsoft influencer game or something would be cool and maybe it would be really good content to say I don't think it would work very well for a public game, yeah that's just my opinion, no you got it. One point, okay, let's round out this episode with one last question, let's do it and once again before we read this last question, if we don't get to your question, this episode repost it from the last episode in the comments.

In this episode section, we're going to break it down, put on our reasoning helmets, and come to the next episode if you guys have any comments that you know about something that we've responded to a different opinion on if uh or why you might think. that, uh, you know, 100 players could be a great Battle Royale or how do you think we can get more female airsoft players into the game or maybe why do you think American and European airsoft players are different or that the games are different whatever of those thoughts comments questions throw them in the comments section below our last question of this episode comes from one airsoft yeah why was that okay?

Are you ready for this. This is a friend. Am I ready for this? This is fantastic. Yes, we're going to have to keep watching the music. we're going to have to keep our opinions very, very politically correct, are you ready, okay, okay, the best and the

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, a knockoff of the tactical airsoft product, oh well, okay, the best and the

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, okay , so everyone do the best and then everyone do the worst and everyone will choose one because otherwise we will spend a whole hour on this, okay, obviously there are tons of great knockoffs and tons of horrible knockoffs, but let's try to limit it to one, what do you think we try?

To know what this truck is doing if it is approaching, I think the best airsoft imitation is the bravo avengers m300 lights, which is a good m300 m 600, I think that for an imitation and for its price, they are as effective as you need them . In airsoft, they have a pressure switch that fits common pressure switch mounting options. They have the ability to mount onto existing brackets for actual existing flashlights. And the fact that they're affordable, they're not overpowered in terms of like you. I know it's airsoft, you don't need it, well I mean we all use thousand lumen lights now, but for the average airsoft I think a purchase of 50 of a 150 300 lumen light is more than enough.

I think they are sturdy enough. They have CR 123 technology, I think it's probably the best knockoff and they look legit in the photos, yeah if you like it, yeah that's a really good thing, I mean it actually reminded me of another knockoff item but I didn't am. I'm going to talk about that actually I'm going to talk about actually you know what I have three I have three items now you're supposed to choose one okay okay I have three items I won't I'm going to take a look, I'm going to take a look at the first one, it's well, what are thesimulated pec 15s, especially the high end ones, are actually pretty decent and can work pretty well right, um uh, there were the old gmp lasers that we can't get anymore. right, of course, we won't talk about that for a long time, uh, the Rasputin stuff, which I don't know if it exists much anymore.

I don't know if you know, I haven't really seen much in stock, yeah, but. Those things were pretty good, but I'm going to go with the Emerson blue label, uh, knockoffs, and you know, their quality is pretty good, sometimes I'll say this, sometimes they use real fabric that sometimes they don't like. I'm not going to sugarcoat it, but they're probably durable enough that you can use them and you know they're pretty good if you're looking for something that's not as expensive as the cry g3s. or g4s and that also brings up an interesting point like they are, they are imitations, but they are not actually correct because they are made in conjunction with crying, aren't they?

I do not know anything about that. I was not sure. I really do not know. Don't know. What is happening with the Cry license regarding the Airsoft license and where is everything? I see you know I can't say anything specifically about them. Yes, you know that's for the people above us to decide and discover. I don't. I don't really know, but I would say that if I really wish I could connect the Rasputin stuff more, but you just don't see it anymore, really true, but anyway, those are the best imitations. How about a The worst, well you go first, okay, okay, so there was a company that shall not be named that was making knockoff review material, which is funny because the review is like a second version, some of Their goggles are like second versions of anti-aircraft things. jacks for example, and they are also non-turbo fans, they are actually not that expensive and so the review is already like an affordable brand that works great and they have great anti-fog wipes, but there was a company that was making versions of knock-off review goggles that would literally break and get in people's eyes and, uh, shatter and fail, and the idea that calling something ansi rated or appropriate for airsoft and then potentially making players they will go blind because of that makes it the best of my worst airsoft imitations of all time, it is literally the most important thing in airsoft is to protect your eyes, yes, yes, ever that company should be ashamed.

There are some overseas equipment companies. I don't really know the specific OEMs because you never know who. the OEM actually is, but they're from, like you know, you can buy them on eb airsoft or whatever, you know those other sites and maybe you'll get it, maybe you don't like it, it was in those days, you know where, where. You didn't really know if you were going to get it or not, but you're like, oh, it's so cheap, like I remember buying some of that stuff and you're like, wow, like they're falling apart like you. You're like you know you take it out of the bag and you kind of pull the bag open and rip it off yeah yeah you're like what but yeah probably some of those old chest rigs that were similar to some of Conor's stuff at the time like the old mcr-3 or something like that, oh with stitching that was so bad, I basically remember I bought one and it fell apart, yeah, just when I really felt like I liked it. sew it to reinforce it.

I used it for a while, so it was cheap, but some of them you should avoid, yeah, you know, those are the teams that sometimes I want to say, they're not a big deal anymore, let's put it that way. Yeah right, I used to be like anyone who says it's really a thing right now, it's not as bad as it used to be, it used to be a free-for-all, yeah, yeah, I remember we used to buy, we used to buy vests. from a jungle toy back in the day where, like the friends' leashes, they weren't spaced appropriately, their bags didn't fit.

I remember seeing some things like that, like their rows were off and then, or like the seams between the bays were off, yeah. so you're, you're, whatever you call that stem for the back of friends, with straps like you go through them and bend between the rows, man, it was like what the hell, so I'm glad we don't deal with that anymore , but if. There's nothing worse than cheap, super-cheap knockoff equipment that doesn't accept standardized bags. There is a reason the Pals and Mali threading system is a standardized system because the bags fit between different platforms made by different manufacturers.

There really is nothing worse than buying investors. It's really It's not that hard to just make sure everything is lined up, it's very spaced out, even if you don't have the machinery to do the full automatic line or whatever some companies have, it's not a very good question. I'm trying to think of something. otherwise, there have been some helmets that have been really bad, you know, that looks like it looks like the ops helmets, you know, it looks like the fast helmets or the core ops helmets and I mean, for the money , there have been some that are really bad.

They're like they're too small, they don't even fit, especially true, you know, things like that. I try to think that there have probably been others that we just aren't naming. I'm actually curious what people's other experiences are. That's an excellent question, I think our good guys are good, our bad guys are mediocre. I'm sure there are worse things out there. Yeah, to be honest with you, yeah, anyway, to end this video on a high note, if that's the case. Any ideas on what the best airsoft knockoffs are or the worst airsoft knockoffs, go ahead and post them in the comments section.

We want to know from you what experiences you have had. Have you ever bought something that you expected to be of poor quality and were surprised by how well it worked or how long it lasted or spent some money on something that you knew you really hoped would turn out well only to find out that the eotech you ordered from dhgate turned out to be rose gold instead of desert. so anyway see you in the next episode thank you for tuning into this episode of the not so round table if you have any questions one more reminder, put them in the wheel of reasoning by entering them in the comments section and uh look at you next month we See you next month Valentine's Day Special oh wait no this is the Valentine's Day Special well I got lucky yeah for those of you who have a Valentine's Day Happy Valentine's Day Valentine's Day.