Behind the Scenes of Jason Cammisa on the Icons Shelby GT500 Video — The Carmudgeon Show — Ep. 11

12 that worked but then ended. Customers' cars don't work, yes, there are three days left to leave. I have to pick up the phone and call Ferrari and now Ferrari, why didn't you want to call us sooner? I don't allow comparison tests, they are and rightly so. So part of the myth, the mystique of Ferrari is to protect that brand and the brand identity and all that, and I get it right, people put Ferraris in two places in journalists, which customers would never do and Ferrari doesn't. likes this.Ferrari will never let me do a comparison test, for example with a Lamborghini, they literally do one where I deliver pizza, but they were very, very nervous about it and I used that pizza delivery as a test of driving ability car daily. but if it was a performance test, they wouldn't have done it because a lot of things can go wrong and yes, but that's very different from Porsche's approach, yes, Porsche is a party, so I knew there was no way they were going. for this but now I have no choice because we were going to do an Enzo, we had an Enzo potentially lined up and I thought that GT 500 versus Enzo and the GT 500 would destroy an Enzo and the problem was that the text we spoke with The technicians who work here we're like the clutch is never going to handle multiples, like when we film these drag races, you know, now dozens if not hundreds of launches are thrown, yeah, in succession, yeah, so they said that's not going to work and that's it.

Well, I just picked up the phone called Ferrari and said, "Sue, I have this, listen to me, indecent proposal" and they say, "You know they know me," you know, immediately the reaction was like "Oh, God, long story short, the story long came from above". came to Italy that we could do it as long as we got good numbers out of the car, they were, you know, they're worried, the truth about 700,800 horsepower rear-drive cars is that a lot of it comes to the surface to launch. how it's all done and rightly so they were so hysterical because a Mustang can beat a Ferrari and here's the thing that doesn't matter, the Ferrari is so much more than just its straight line speed yes but that's why it bothers me . like people are commenting, they are talking about how the Mustang is a much more attractive car than a Ferrari, no one in the world is cutting those two cars, if someone buys those two cars, they will buy both. they do and they have the means to buy both again without yes, that a 12 is the reason we chose them, that I chose the super fast 8 12 is not because it is a Ferrari, although I obviously love the Ford versus Ferrari Italia and I give them him a movie is because the Ferrari a12 superfast is the fastest accelerating front engine rear wheel drive car ever made for production, yes it's the benchmark and that's how I explain it to Ferrari.

I'm like I didn't ask. You made the reference car, but you made it and now I have to use it in the reference point as if they had reduced it anyway, so they were incredibly nice and gave me the car without warning and without restrictions. in the way I was following that car and that's just one of those things 8:12 you're not on a mission to be so cool, it's a fancy businessman's car like that it's also very fast, but it's not a bike track and it would take I haven't driven an 812 on the track, but I drove an F12 on the track and it was actually really good and five 9s, the whole HTT was kind of a packed track, the GTO was amazing on the track , but it's just not the mission of cars and I just did it.

Not even asking the answer would have been no and I don't blame them for that, but for this straight line thing I really thought and this is where I was wrong, the GT 500 was going to be very close to the physics of physics and I thought that , taking into account power, weight and all that stuff, when I actually crunched the numbers, the Mustang would be two or three tenths behind the Ferrari and I was wrong, it was almost second, yes, and the reason for that is grip in weight distribution, yes, that Ferrari. it had superior performance even if I look at the eight test results from 80 to 120 miles per hour, in reality the Ferraris continue to pull away from the Mustang and they really shouldn't have as much as they did, but it is that fast and these are not By the way , you know the Ferrari weight numbers that could be optimized, whether it's a car that we test, so there are other things, but really yes, something important, there has been a lot of pushback on Jason's shit launch

video

and I don't HE. how to drive the

gt500

much of that is true.

I don't know what I'm doing behind the wheel of a car, but when it comes to cars like this, especially, you know with this kind of power and rear-wheel drive on a different surface it can be just as important when it comes to the driver and their ability. to control wheel spin, even in cars with stability control, that it's not fair to drag race two cars when talking about their relative performance. to each other, right, I can say, let's race these two cars and if you increase your launch or I improve my launch, that's what it is, you should call them.

What I'm doing in this

video

is talking about the

gt500

and the a12 is super fast which means each of those cars needs to be tested to their full potential and not be slowed down by an idiot driver or just drive really well how Can we solve that problem? This is what I've always done. and I don't think people realize that it's so much that Top Gear got into a lot of trouble recently with the Thai Tesla p100 video, a ridiculous video because they called themselves going at hundredths of a second and using instruments to prove. numbers from a different time instead, which is actually the right way to do it is to use instrumented test numbers, so I'm general editor at run track and I have my column and run track Road and track and car and driver our sister magazines and they share test equipment, test numbers, test facilities and everything else.

Kourin Driver. I think it's the best testing organization in the business and I felt that way even when I was working at Motor Trend, now the engine revs are great, but the driver of the car does multiple tests. that motor friend doesn't do that, I think it's better the motor trend, he does the figure eight which is really cool, but the car driver I like the way they test first, for example, just like a big Illustrative point when you see a speed of 70 miles per hour. braking number of the road and the track or the car and the driver, that measurement starts at the moment the pedal is touched, so you step on the pedal and there is a pressure sensor on the pedal and at the moment you your foot makes hard contact, you're measuring, so you're including the the response of this brake system, while the engine transmission test is sixty miles per hour, but they started at 62 or 65 or 67, they hit the brakes. and then they went back and pulled the data from 60 to a stop so if like the old GM's they had a big delay in response that would be discounted and I think the real world car drivers test procedure is better so That host Tony Corrado, who is their West Coast editor, and his entire testing team were incredibly patient with me when I asked for test results on everything. and they gave me the full test results, everything I needed from their work.

I think it's David Beard's test on the GT 500 while we were on the track doing the track part, they were testing it, they did the numbers on the spot and they sent me a screenshot of the numbers so I had a real time time that was kept to a minimum because if something happened right, when you do what appears on the screen it has to be representative of the real number, so we can't film our drag race until we have the data that comes from the correct car and the drivers' test, which is happening at the same time, we would have had it if we had not had the drivers' numbers of the car, what we would have done is simply drag the speeds of the car and we would have had to change.

It's just that it's Randy and I doing the best of five because we were on a track that was literally falling apart, pieces were falling apart, we broke the windshield of the GT500 to which Ford laughs, thank God, I love them for not getting mad at me. On that, You know, so you could very easily have been influenced one way or another, there was a representative of reality, so the key takeaway here is that the numbers that appear on the screen are representative of the instrumented tests that were carried out. carried out in an environment controlled by They are professional test drivers at Car and Driver and we are not things and I ordered that day and what I don't think most people know, no one doesn't realize and when we did it like that, we probably did it. we did, gosh, Ferrari versus Ford launch. we probably did it I don't know 12 times the hellcat we probably did 20 it takes 20 times to get the initial shot the suspension compressing the slow motion of the wheels moving the head the drone finishes all those other things that the head head headcam a POV camera the GoPro on the side of the car relative to each other and to the right because you never want to see a GoPro on the side of another car, so you have to do a shot where there are no cameras on exactly one car and then on the other, You get this, most people right, they're cool, you were there, most people don't realize we could do it in one take, but first of all, driver error, like Randy would get a 2/10 second lead for me, but I also don't want to watch a drag race between two cars that have 30 cameras everywhere, so this takes a lot of time and having to incorporate to make sure we get a perfect launch side by side, it would be a whole day to do a drag race sequence in this case too, so the driver of the car that tests all these Motor Trend, all these guys that test, they literally get paid to extract the The last tenths or hundredths of a second of these cars going offline is why they break transmissions or used to break many manual transmissions.

They do horrible, horrible things to these cars in order to get horrible, horrible things and the feedback I got. from the driver of the beard car was that through Tony Kroger was that the car was very difficult to start as the GT 500 had major traction problems coming off the line and that was the best he could do, there are tons of comments and people soon on my People on Instagram say GT 500 does ten seven not 11 four yes on a VHT prepared surface on a race track you're not going to beat that car drivers test team on the road on any road by a significant margin when they do 30 or 40 50 pitches. probably to get that number and literally do that, yeah, that's what he does and the guy is amazing doing it, so you know, if I was in that car, if that car was 11 4, maybe I'd get to 11 7 , 8 or 9, right?

This is the best case and is corrected to standard atmospheric conditions and so it was done. The driver of the car has two testing facilities, one in California and one in Michigan, those are the two places where they test their cars so you know it's a consistent surface. Perfectly flat, they do both directions and average them for the wind, which Motor Trend doesn't do. These are really the test numbers. whether the cars, but it's basically a week, what's the term? They recreate the recreation or did a recreation by a professional artist. It is a recreation of what you would see in the real world under ideal conditions.

There are times when cars don't work as they should. Instrumented test numbers say they'll like it to be 120 degrees. You have made 35 consecutive launches. A car wants to go and throw the control and many other temperature gauges are fixed and then you had a Porsche, for example, that never gives an and then. Porsche will simply squeeze out 20 car lengths in a car that is supposed to be slower than what happened in the world's greatest drag race. Well, we have to slow everyone down to make sure the representative wasn't one of them there. There was one time when Randy had a mom that gave him all that jack traction to get off the line and at one point he had a mom every time I got him off the line, so I just lifted a little bit, a little bit, just to let him catch up to me and I'm looking in the mirror and of course you know I'm too late on the gas now so he's beating me a little bit and of course Rob our incredibly talented editor chose that as a second place where I can start to see Hellcat win over people and of course people realize, yes a lot of people realize that, but that's just cinema, that was the only time I put arena in gt5 but a little in gt500, but really those races are those races and what happens?

Lap times are tough so the only thing I can say about Randy's post is that we used Randy because I can go out and put in a lot of time on both cars which would be representative ofso look at whatever, but you know, even the next day, so the next day is when we did the car, the ec me Christmas card and it was basically a simple thing that was going to be on. a Santa hat, we put up a Christmas tree in the middle of the desert and I was just riding with it, the new gt500 in the background, which was wired so it couldn't do more dirt than things with spinning tires, so pass over there. and I slowed down basically slowly doing a wear on the brake bracket, so I walked up to him and said, "Okay, look, let me drive it to get some temperature." My plan is to use second gear at 2000 rpm, you know 3/4 throttle stopped burnt, but I won't go fast on that because I don't want to destroy your brake pads.

I don't want to burn your tires too much. I don't want to overheat the engine and he said, "kill it." and I was like, he said, you're not going to damage this car, it's hard, you know, and I'm used to dealing with one when he has like a dozen of them and he races them, he knows them very well, right? You're not going to kill him. I'm fine so I put some heat on it and this is a one take thing because I can't throw them under the bus but who do we think we're perfecting where we are?

I'm going to turn a corner with 75 sets of skid marks that tell you where I'm about to go, ah, so I had to do it once and I had to do it right, so it was a 4000 rpm burnout the first year I then he converted. in second and then in third while I was going for the way things are just an animal, right to the thing and I say, you know my stupid Santa thing, but that core is animal, yeah, yeah, so it was really, I'm very proud of what we were able to do in two days when we did a 30-minute TV

show

and two days of filming, yeah, not to mention I think in terms of budget I shouldn't publicly reveal the numbers, but this was like a Magnitude order. different than what I think most people who create similar content were, probably if I know how much Top Gear spends on a segment.

It was probably two percent of what Top Gear would have spent. I'm doing the same thing, it's just us being creative and that's it. It seems we don't like asking for favors. I'm asking for favors, but they could cut back. I mean Top Gear. I can ask for favors, but it's being smart, right? I mean, we could have rented Laguna Seca, which would have been, you know, a lot more money than renting chuckwalla, there wasn't a section of road, which I think worked out fine for us, because if you close down the road and I have to pay the Highway Patrol to maintain it.

The way is against the cut commercials causing, but actually the big talent there is Anthony because Anthony when he did his hundred and fifty or what 300 episodes or whatever it was off in his head he came up with. with filming techniques with reasonably priced equipment that would rival the stuff Top Gear used, you know, hundred thousand dollar cameras without a Russian arm, which costs thousands of dollars a day or an hour to rent and operate, needs of people he discovered. ways to get things with little action and he's an amazing editor so he edits in his head while we're filming so I come up with a script, I give it to him and we usually have a It was very efficient because there's nothing like Oh, we did it.

Let's not do that take or let's do a million takes because he knows exactly what we need and he doesn't get anything else, yeah. I was surprised that when he liked the parts I was in, he said, "Okay, we got it and I was in it." like, oh okay, like the fact that he can just see it, it happened through the camera one time and he knows that was good or that he needs another take, you know he knows because he's looking at it and the thing is that where We really got screwed, this was one of the shortest days of the year, yeah, mid-December, so you know it's something you don't think about until you do it if we were filming there in August or June and June.

We probably would have had another five hours of daylight, so we lost a full third of the day, if not more in the light, it would have been 150 degrees too, yes, but at least you can shoot until nine at night, yes. we were on it at 4:30 it was wrapped in dark pencils so yeah so yeah it was a lot to pack in one day but I think we actually did something to

show

people oh I never said the joke was that that red eye was canceled Oh my God, so the day before everything is like falling apart, everything is going wrong, you know, nothing, nothing is coming out and I mean, while I'm writing the script for this and for the care and feeding episodes suitable. what we're doing, I have to start thinking because we're filming at the same time and all this is happening and I get an email from the guy who was renting the red eye to us saying the previous tenant isn't returning it, he's in Las Vegas.

I thought I'd send someone to Las Vegas to get it. Like I can't deal with this right now. No he said and he said, but I have a Hellcat and I say, what am I going to do with a Hellcat? I need red eyes because red eyes like 800 horsepower and whatever, so swapping a car on the lessee side and Turo apparently wasn't easy and he did it. It took him hours to get on the phone with Tonto and everything else. Meanwhile, I'm like a corned driver. I need all the test numbers for the 717 horsepower Hellcat, they are like they did it, they got them and Turns out haha ​​what I say in the video, the fastest to run the quarter mile of any of the red eyes of the Hellcat demon on an unprepared surface was the Hellcat, so you know at least we could say okay, look.

This is actually faster than a demon and faster than a red eye in the real world, obviously on a VHT-prepared race track, but that was like, oh my god, seriously, do I need a car to cancel the previous day? It's completely crazy, hmm, so come on. Look, looking ahead there will be more. I noticed there was a lot of interest in having more of these episodes and in the comments, which makes me very happy. Yeah, I mean, look around you. I think we could do it. I'm glad I did GT500. episode 2 because I want the episode to be very different from the straw toes episode, the next one needs to happen a lot sooner and there were a lot of other reasons why we couldn't get this one out sooner, but next one I want to be a little more in The brand for us here is me, I mean, GT500 is as awesome as I made it look in that video because the cars are awesome, but I want to do something a little more exotic, exotic, no.

It has to be millions and millions of dollars, but something a little more interesting and then I think that's what I can't figure out what

icons

should be. I mean, you know, an episode about

icons

could be in a Miata. I mean, that's an icon. I know there's no reason they have to be expensive or anything, they just have to be cool and there are so many cool cars that I think people could learn a thing or two about. I feel like this a lot because my interests are very esoteric, but The question is like: You know, we could make a video about something that you already know is weird, something that no one has heard of and no one will watch the video.

I know, and one of the concerns for this one was that this one has to work well. so by the way, send it to and have everyone see it as much as possible because the better it works, the better the chances are that we'll make more of them, yeah, and that's it, and while you're at it, make sure all your friends subscribe to the YouTube channel, follow us on this podcast which of course you can listen to on YouTube and see our pretty faces and their ridiculous bodies. Let's insert a photo of him as the flag bearer just to make sure everyone knows what I successfully obtained. he ripped it it was my shirt you actually owe me a shirt rip off a shirt and he owes you a shirt company look at me he owes me a shirt but you can listen to our podcast without having to look at his naked body on Apple podcasts Spotify, Google Podcasts and SoundCloud or something like that.

Don't know. I don't do this newfangled tech stuff, but the most important thing is to subscribe to this YouTube channel to watch this show, get proper care and feeding, and see the next icons, because given everyone's reaction, I think so. a lot of pressure to make the next one even better, you will help, yes, clothes, although sure, I mean, you got a lot of attention, yes, but I don't need it or want it, everything is fine, leave your shirt on, but I eat them cars, I'm here for the cars, well you were actually there, not just for the car, you keep your shirt on, you cooked us dinner one day, I did well, we were with the principal, right? or on the track on the track that he went to.

The supermarket drove an hour each way to shop and bought food and then cooked well. Here's the thing about Derek: he eats four times as much as any normal human being eats and he cooked enough for 45 people when there were only seven of us, so there we are. I'm still eating leftovers but thanks for being 7 cooking and for ripping off your shirt. I think it was heroic of you and he did his best literally in the middle of filming. I'm turning sideways and pass by him. and he hands me a peanut butter and jelly sandwich and I move on.

I never realized how much I loved peanut butter and jelly or how much I appreciate it - oh my gosh, I haven't a clue about that and I've seen it. 50 minutes or something like that you wrote 42 and I say you