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Approaching New Area with The Hunting Beast - Dan Infalt

Jun 08, 2021
Alright everyone, today we have a great episode for you. Today we're going to talk to Dan about

hunting

beast

s and we're going to do it a little differently. We will shower a little from bed while

hunting

. How do you locate a bed and just get into the deer hunting part? The carpentry part. How to read a property when you step on a property. What you're looking for in terms of signals and then naturally it all comes back in. bedding so how far away is it from bedding and things like that and to get Dan's opinion on that and you know they're coming to Michigan for the public lands challenge with the tied and hunting public and us in Michigan?
approaching new area with the hunting beast   dan infalt
We know we're very excited to see these guys step on Michigan soil and do their thing and you know, see how it compares to the way we break down properties, the way we look at things. and to see if Michigan really is as bad as everyone says, but before we get to that episode I just want to thank our newest Patreon member, Alex Blue, from Kansas, so we've got Kansas, Wisconsin, Louisiana, and a bunch of people in Michigan and I don't know if you signed up, you know, to try to win that binoculars and tree stand package, we're giving it out on September 25, so the episode that comes out, the last episode in September, we'll be We'll be announcing the winner by that and that's giving back to our patrons so they can go and look at our Patreon account to see what's going on there, but you know we're giving away one of the new xop evolution tree stands a.
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approaching new area with the hunting beast   dan infalt
Today we are joined by a special guest, the great serial killer Dan, who is responsible for talking a little about wood handling. like finding a deer sign, like reading a sign and stuff like that, how are you tonight Dan? I'm pretty good, yeah, your season is starting here at the end of this week, so this is the crunch time for most people are a little more relaxed just because they have everything picked out or they like the rest of us, you know, a couple of days working until Christmas, well, it's always exciting to be born in hunting season.
approaching new area with the hunting beast   dan infalt
I'm young. I have high hopes for certain things, but I also have realistic goals. Yeah, I think that's where we try to stay a little down to earth, you know, with our style of hunting, the properties we hunt, the deer we're used to. Looking at it, I think we have realistic expectations and one of those things I think is that we're in Michigan and on public lands and all the pressure and you know, all the stigma that comes with that and you know, for the last two years after, you know . find the hunting

beast

s find something like the people that are on the forum, the people that you recommend talking to, we talked to Jason Campbell and Leon, those guys came and you know, they're guys that are in Michigan all the time, you know, they're doing it in big. deer, you know, it's kind of a revitalization of public land for us.
I think it's always been a, I guess for me, growing up, it's always been a minor thing, so the public land is, you know, for the kids that I don't have the farm that doesn't have food plots that don't have that. , so to get that kind of motivation, you know, role model, you know, though, if you want to say it, we wanted to talk to you about the carpentry side of things, so now Michigan has a bathing ban and there's a lot of guys They're out of their minds, you know they're ready to stop hunting, what are we going to do?
Yes, in fact, I was awake. at the local Pro Shop last weekend and I was talking to Mitch and he said that he's had tons of guys come in, you know, upset. I'm going to stop hunting. I do not know what to do now. I can't bait, it's like you. You gotta hunt, I mean, that's what a stick isn't to me, isn't it? I have never put bait. I hunted with bait a couple of times when I was younger with my friend Jason and thought that's not for me, it's going out. and learning to learn the woods and the deer patterns, you know like that, you know, that's hunting to me, but yeah, and I like to you what wood management means to you and to the guys that maybe They don't even know what that term is.
You know, it's about understanding the terrain, understanding the animals, honking, knowing where they're going to be, what times of day and being able to make a game plan based on that, that to me is wood management when you talk deer hunting. Think also when you talk about bait and stuff, it's much more rewarding when you read the forest, you understand it and you settle into a place, you believe in what you're doing and it works, you know, then, then, cheat. them or having some trap or something to outsmart them in their own living room, that's actually more exciting and for the guys who have no idea where to start, I wanted to frame it, you know, at the end. year looking at you and Joe at the public lands challenge I just knew I had so many questions about you you know how you found that place you broke it down how you hunted that for a hunt like that or so year coming into Michigan or for anyone leaving their zone of comfort, how do you approach that type of hunting?
You know, I know he seems to listen to everything you do and follow the videos and everything about the beast. and the way you break it all down, these are properties that you know intimately, so you know where you know from scouting and boots on the ground and years of figuring out what's going on, but when you're stepping foot on a property for the first time, How do you know where to start and how do you break down each of the properties as you go into them? Well, you know, half of what I do is half searching for new properties and half doing things I've already done, so I go to new properties a lot, you know, where I go at home is probably like a lot of what you guys got in Michigan, you know that's where I'm at in Wisconsin, it's not.
Is the primary more western and southwestern? I'm in the southeast in the big middle towns of Milwaukee in Madison, but what we have around here is we have intermittent swamps and on dry land and farms, and it seems to me that in this heavy pressure and I'm sure Michigan is the same Anyway, it's like that when I go up into heavy pressure it's Minnesota or wherever those big boxes have learned to gravitate toward the water, so the first thing I look for in these high population

area

s are swamps and in waterways where the deer can isolate themselves from people with water and you know thick

area

s and swamps and then you still have to find things that look because there are some people that go into the water, but there are some little places on the sides usually where people just don't go much, you know, and then because there's so much pressure here, any given property around your may or may not have good money, I'm giving it here so I'm not going to waste time looking for a property that I don't have a lot of money and I think that there is a mistake that many make is that they go to the same property year after year, especially if they have gotten a dollar or two there, and they keep getting to the point where My mentality is to go get them so that Allah skips many properties until he presses the signal. moving constantly until I find a target animal and then I will start narrowing down that property and look for it, once I know there is a buck on a particular property or in a particular area then I will try to determine where he is betting on where it's feeding and I'll jump from vet to vet and hunt the outskirts and literally like a grid of that property and hunt every section where I think it might be if I run out of property and then and then I have to determine if I missed something or if you're actually banking on a property I can't chase and get closer to the property and maybe move to a different block, maybe search a little more, but that's the mentality I take: I go and find boxes and to hunt them if I stayed on the same property as most of the guys, I would never have the success that I have had, so one of the things that I think I have heard about and it is something that I still struggle with and it is a trap What a lot of guys fall into is reading, you know what makes that hot sign hot, you know, I heard it, I heard it, it said you know, Dan says you have a hunting sign in hot science, well everyone sees that rub. which is on the way in or that scrape and things like that and it may be fresh, but there are you two ladders and you know how to mark tapes and everything around it and you are also a line coward and created equally, I mean, he, yeah You guys know it every time you find a giant trash-sized thief on public property around here, just three blocks and around, but that doesn't mean a deer will walk in and they'll shoot.
If people just put a big sign on top, you're going to be hunting like everyone else because that's what everyone does and you get results like everyone else, so really what you have to do is get people to read that sign and You have to be able to use common sense instead of the excitement of seeing this giant sign and it says it's getting dark, first it will be daytime and your location at that time is what it will tell you, I mean, yeah you are outdoors. Hardwoods obviously break, don't walk across at least a respectable buck isn't walking in the middle of an open hardwood in broad daylight, you just know they'll be on the thick edges of the edge of their bedding area when they come out in daylight when they get to the forest it's night when you get to the edge of the food it's night you know unless you catch them you know well in the first few days of the season or maybe a day or two if it really goes crazy , twist the stick, you really have to push those limits, so finding that moment in the middle of the forest or something is helpful, but that tells you the books there, you still have to be able to read words, sometimes you know what time of day . that's using that time, you know, to honk, so one thing you said was the first few days of the season or when the grind is peaking, what's the differential differentiating sign in different types of the year because the beginning of the season is?
In relation to the start of your season, you know, September 15th or yeah, completely different ballgame than yours, yeah, yeah, idiot, you know you're going to be here. I mean, you guys are really up for a real adventure because you come here with the start of the bow season here in Michigan, so you're going to meet everyone who has this, right when we start to see the wall, that's when the most Under the seasons precedes your activity, it is just where we are going to spend. there and hunt, but you still have the emotion that no one's really been in the woods yet, so literally here in Wisconsin, I shot my three biggest blocks before the season started, yeah, and that's one of the things that I have set a goal for this year and that is the realistic expectation: I only want to shoot a deer in the first week of the season because that is always a time that I have taken it pretty easy because it is hot all the time. time. stereotypical things that you know you talk about and you know the reason people don't hunt and take advantage of the early parts of the season is the reason I've never taken it that seriously because that's not when the deer are moving I wouldLet's say I would classify myself as a deer hunter in the sense that I hunt during.
I take my free time during the routine. I set up in funnels and places where deer will be, where I know there are deer and have had success. in the past doing that and that's just been hunting me, but it hasn't been hunting, it's been hoping that it was, alreadyThe stakes are higher, but it's a lot more fun to share the hunt, share the harvest, share the experience with someone you know, if you could have a million dollars on your wall and have no one to share it with because that's all you get. consume or that's it, only the size matters and I think a lot of people get caught up in that. that and for us you know one of the things we've said the whole time we've been doing this is that every harvest with the bow and the arrow is a trophy and you know that you have really achieved something that we tried. you know, instill that and you know that's the way we live, my father-in-law, you know he's probably a little bit older than you and you know he started hunting for food when he was a kid, you know he hunted everything that I I mean shoot at the rats in the kitchen with a 45.
I mean, you know they weren't eating the rats, but you know that's how he grew up and killed a bunch of little bucks and every one of them could do it too. I know a 150 because he's elated every time and you know, when I was coming up, you know, I never killed the deer with a bow until I met my father-in-law and I started hunting with him and they didn't shoot them That time they only shot bucks and I passed by high a lot of those and finally he said to me, "You know, maybe you need to have a few under your belt" and it kind of relates to what you're saying about you know when it's time to kill a lot of money or learn to shoot a lot money is not when you're looking at one and it's just about the journey, you know, having someone to share the experience with and have fun doing it and on that note like you know you talked.
You know you posted a video of you and Joe's strategy for hunting in Michigan and it's not actually a contest? I think you know, other than you and Joe, we met everyone who was at the public lands challenge last year and there's a great group of guys, they don't say no, we just know them, but you know, and the tied guys are great too and I don't think anyone expected it to be a contest. I think for us Michigan kids, yes. I'm really excited to see them come here and really put on a show, you know, break down their style for everyone and I think that camaraderie is what brought everyone to the public lands challenge last year and why.
It was a huge success, it wasn't a contest of who's going to do what, who's going to shoot the most money correctly and then what are your expectations? Because I mean personally and I think I speak for, I mean, I've talked to There are a lot of different guys that are following this very closely from all the camps and I think you guys will kill more than a buck this year and probably some pretty big deer, but those deer will be important deer for Michigan. I think the expectation of the Michigan deer is, you know, I think I saw on one of your videos that your son killed the wounded with seven or six points that you called it a blessing from Michigan, so I think, but what Is that what I hear with so much confusion?
For Michigan, I really don't know what to expect. You know, I'll tell you it gets pretty overwhelming that we're doing this because it's getting so popular and so big, but you wouldn't believe the messages I'm getting. I'm getting it right now since I put up that video about Joe's plan, I've been getting about 150 messages a day about going to Michigan. I think people are really excited about us going there, um, but I mean, they go and it's It's so weird because I have people tell me there's a boner behind every bush and don't listen to what you've heard.
I have people tell me they will attack you if you park in a public parking lot with -People with state license plates get shot in all public forests and one guy told me the only way to shoot a 100 inch larger block in any Michigan's place was if you did it on opening day, after that all blocks are kicked out. there because there's a guy every 50 feet now I think it's all the extremes in between you know I've been and I know somewhere in the middle of the truth I don't think it's much different from where I am here.
I don't think you have boxes as big as I have here, but I look at the record books and it shows that Michigan is the 10th best date for booming rackets, so there has to be good genetics, there's some money, there's partying. graduation, a lot of money. You don't push or not, they're there, so my job is to get close to Fineman and be able to kill them and prove to myself that I can do it. It won't be easy, you know? I understand and joke. set and you know, I think the rest of the guys die too, but we'll see what happens.
I mean, we'll go in there and you know we'll all work together like we did in Minnesota and we'll take note of things for sure and run and I mean, when I hunt out of state, especially on the challenge, I go 24/7. days of the week and we will sleep 3 to 4 hours, explore maps at night, run like crazy hunting all day and exploring everything. day and I love it, that's what I live for, you know, when you come home, you get to your to-do list and you get your job and all that crap and you still have to find time to hunt, you know, but I'm the challenge is the only thing I have in mind and I will make every effort and we will see what happens.
I don't really have any expectations so far. I guess I'll go in. I see what I come across and go from there. I mean, I think I can get two tags if I buy them ahead of time and you know, maybe a good 100 or 120 inches or they'll tickle me, maybe they won't, it depends on what I see. to sign, if I get it, I start reselling those properties and I see decent signs and I know there is something big around me. I'm going to wait for something big, you know, it's pretty much the same way I do it at home or wherever you see, I'm looking for what's available, you know, I'm amused by these guys who tell me I only shoot a hundred forty inches or more or that I only hung 150 inches is bigger, okay what are you doing in a year when there is nothing that big? you just don't chase the right tone, you know, so yeah, you know.
I'm going to set my goals based on what I've seen and what I think I can do and go from there. Should be fun to watch. Should be fun. to see these properties broken down and you know I'm going to try to talk better about what we're doing and where we are, how we're doing things, you know and I hope that helps people when you say you're using maps and stuff that you use X this It would be my first year using Onyx because I never had a cell phone before, yes I had a small flip phone to contact people.
Now I have a cell phone. I put Onyx on it and I think The main goal of getting this was onyx, that's what, yeah, I have it here, but I don't see very well either, it's hard for me to see that on the screen. I'm used to paper maps and stuff. and I'm not used to technology. I'm really quite old school, but let's just say it's a pretty good system, so we'll use it. We used Joe's Onyx last year and I really liked it. Yeah, I just published a post, I think probably. The last post I posted on our website now is me teaching my dad and his hunting buddy how to use onyx and we were sitting in front of that thing and they got their readers and it's like it was a grumpy episode.
Old men, well, what does this button do and how do I do this and which one? It was a lot like that, but yeah, I mean, I think everyone's excited to see them come to Michigan. We talked to Zach about hunting. public extensively, both on air and off air, about coming to Michigan and he, you know, he said, you know we're going there eventually, everyone says it's very difficult and all that, and I can tell you that you know last year, like me. I said I'm lucky whatever it is I shot a 100 inch buck on November 9th so one of the most prized areas I won't even hug there anymore because I mean there's a tree literally every 100 yards and when you get to the parking lot There are Eight vehicles and a bonfire we passed it, we got the deer out, these guys left on mountain bikes and there was a bonfire in the parking lot with a big tent set up when we got the deer out of there and they never saw us. and then you know the deer I had seen the day before was harvested right around Thanksgiving on a bow only property that was a 140 150 class and I saw it two years ago, that's what got me hooked on hunting in bed because I did everything. that I had learned and you know, it was kind of like the quintessential hunting beast forum story: I saw this deer, I walked in, I walked in to set up and that was before it was, I stood on sticks, I climbed up the back and I got there there and there was no tree to put a climber in he walked 20 20 feet too far into the wind and he stood 60 yards from me and it was a hundred 130 class buck at the time and the picture of this buck I mean he said that got into the 60s, but I mean it's a lot of money and in another super pressured and we're not in any of the trophy counties by any means, you know, Lower Michigan, do you know where you're hunting in Michigan now? we're the area, move on because the location slipped, yeah, I was wondering about that because I can't imagine how many messages you get because every day I message someone like, do you know where?
It's just that people are asking us what's going on, so you know, I'd like to see, mom rents the private farm for camping or something, nothing we can't do there with the camp there because I think someone will find us anyway. Yeah, and as soon as they do, someone will say something on a forum somewhere or something stupid and we'll be overwhelmed with people you know, even in Minnesota. My phone was constantly ringing with my little phone standing up with canned messages. I can join you, can you come get you some chili? Can you guys come hang out since you're in the area?
They want to come in and eat with my family and it's like they know how lumpy I am but they all wanted to come? and getting to know each other and hanging out and all that crap, but we just don't have time for that or I mean, none of us do, I mean even the public through the guys who aren't piling up our edit or running around doing things and I hope They find our location but it's time or if they do they keep it a secret but I imagine it will probably turn out fine so we've had you here for almost an hour.
I don't want to keep you too long one of the questions we always ask and you know, Joe Johnson is a little nerdy about it, but what is your boyfriend prepared before shooting? I'm sure the forge, a fake surgeon, actually the updated one is not called the fake serial killer they named. chased him, but he was going to make one, but he went out of business, the companies went out of business, the Bull company is sold if anyone wants to buy it, but anyone, yeah, so he's a friend of mine, so I like to shoot every light bulb, um.
I don't know, maybe I'll switch you here in the future, but right now I'm still using it. I like it, it weighs sixty-five pounds, has a long shaft and I need it because I have a very long draw length. Knuckles Trig. I wear almost a full length. I have several broadheads right now, but I have a bunch of those six broadheads on the way. Well, I'll try them and if they fly well, I may not use them this year. but I haven't tried them in I like mozzies but I'm getting tired of them of this quality they started making them in China or something like that and sometimes there are no flutes to cut them sometimes you have a little bit of dentin, you know?
I don't like having to throw away one or two no's when I get a package, but I like it, I like it, what mosquitoes know? When you have them right, they fly well, so that's where I am and that bow is about nineteen years old. what year did he build it, he had built it for me two years ago, okay so it's not old, I guess I'm just imagining the mold and the beak, well I mean I've seen some of the videos and everyone likes it, You already know the videos. They're here and there, so it's very interesting because a lot of people invest a lot of money and we include it, you know, we're not immune to it, but everything ends up being wanted, wanted, wanted, wanted, wanted and yes, for you you made a nice A clean bowl and in its top buns there were about six or seven hundred dollars.
You never, ever, ever collected all that money. I said that's because he never, you know, paid sponsors or gave away a bunch of free bows. or something like the only other companies, so they were able to keep their overhead low, but it seemed like they kept the bull that was pretty easy to see and they got what they shot in there fast enough for me to kill what I shot, so Don't kill the giant bears with them, many boxes with it, so I'm happy, that's another thing, we may have a yard for your bear. Yes, we had planned to draw bear tags this year and for some reason we didn't do it. they didn't appeal to us, my family has 240 acres in Menominee County, Michigan, and you know bear tags on private land aren't very hard to get and they just didn't appeal to us, but we had one of our friends here since death by archery Adam Inge Wyler and said he shared a bear camp with you and we have seen that you know a lot aboutbear hunting, so we may contact you again here in the future for information on bear hunting because I know maybe one of your other vices, yeah, that's a real passion of mine, but yeah, like I mean, we appreciate your time here and you know we'll follow you like everyone else in the country, but especially in Michigan. for the public lands challenge, you know, is there anything you want to promote or save listeners or something?
Oh, no, no, really, um, I think it's good, amazing, we appreciate it until the end and thank you for continuing with this. forever I remain silent

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