Andrew Tate vs Piers Morgan | The Full Interview

one of the most infamous men in the world Andrew Tate's misogynistic rant has been viewed billions of times online he has now been effectively banned from the internet, although he doesn't think that's fair tonight I'll try to find out if he's from London I'm Piers Morgan uncensored. Good evening from London and welcome to the special edition of Piers Morgan Uncensored. Andrew Tate, one by one, is the most famous man you've probably never heard of, with billions of views online at one point this year. More people were searching on Google. For Andrew Tate and Donald Trump or Kim Kardashian, the former professional kickboxer was expelled from his older brother in 2016 after a video surfaced of him punching a woman and what they both now claim was the consensual sex game he has since made Millions as a pornographer and casino owner. in Romania, but it is his online videos that have made him famous around the world, posing as a Playboy with fast cars, cigarettes, guns and cash, he rants about his often scandalous views on women or instruct a woman to provide for him, so I think my sister is my her husband's property yes, tell the young people that they can become as rich as him by paying for his digital life lessons.

I have a hundred. I'm going to teach you so you can use money in Clash. The network has Andrew Tate clothes while millions still share. his videos are effectively banned on the web, ripped from Facebook YouTube Instagram Twitter and Tick Tock for his fans he is a misunderstood satirist and victim of the great technological censorship for many others he is a malicious misogynist tonight I will try to get some of the truth right Some of The opinions that Andrew Tate shares in his videos are without a doubt deeply offensive. We will show you some of them in this program.

I think you should see them yourself, not just listen to what he says about them or what other people say about them. Millions of people around the world follow Andrew Tate and when the large number of followers comes with great responsibility, as well as a public interest in holding his views accountable, if scandalous opinions are read aloud, they can be questioned and exposed for what they are. silenced, the person who holds these views can become a martyr, that's why I invited Andrew Tate to come here tonight and he joins me now live, so Andrew, welcome first of all, you come from Romania to do this

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: Why are you here? It would be interesting to have a conversation with you. You have certainly been the subject of your own divided opinions in the world. There are many people who would say some of the things you do. Let's say maybe they are dangerous or toxic, so I thought you would be a good person to talk to about this topic. I didn't know much about you before this year and suddenly I became very aware of you as the world did because it was just like me. I said before that you were the number one topic searched on Google before Donald Trump.

I don't think it was possible why you suddenly got such a popular stroke. Infamous, do you think I exploded? I certainly didn't do that with magic. I've been on the internet for a long time, I think in the world we live in now, the other side, the other side, the people who disagree with me as they become more and more tyrannical in their censorship and their mobs of hate, etc., as standard. Masculine practices are considered toxic. I didn't put a magic spell on everyone. I managed to accumulate a great affinity with the male population. Throughout the Western world because I simply say things that many men believe, think and feel the problem.

What I'm saying is I want to play you just a clip from above. This is from Joe Rogan. He is someone I absolutely love and I think he explains to me what my problem is. I guess my problem with you will be correct. I have every right to try to persuade myself otherwise, of course, but Joe Rogan said this about you. My 12 year old son and 14 year old son asked me about Andrew Tate. I said he's a legit world kickboxing champion. I like it a lot, why do you like it? and I was asking him, they said that he says a lot of funny things on Twitter and Tick Tock, he hangs out with the misogynist, yes, because if he didn't do that, if he only said professional email things, I thought it was interesting because when I went over everything that has been at the center of the debate about Andrew Tate.

I'm with Joe Rogan in the sense that there are a lot of things you say that I agree with. You know I have three children in their 20s, it's not. It's actually easy to be a young man in the modern world and I think a lot of the things you say about that may resonate with them, the problem comes with the I don't know 10 20 or whatever of your production, which on the face This appears to be blatant misogyny and when you combine that with your massive influence and enormous reach, this is why social media companies have decided to effectively cancel you.

I don't believe in cancellation, I don't believe in censorship in particular, that's why I invited you to come on the show, um, but I think a lot of the things you've said are blatant misogyny, do you accept that? So you made a very interesting point there, what you just said, at first glance, seems to be blatant. misogynist I understand that, in view of some of the long form content I've created 8, if you're going to take a few seconds of hours, cut it up, put it all over social media and accompany it with my massive Fame, then things can't be in absolute.

It really needs to be taken out of context. I don't hate women in any way. I don't have any negative relationship with women. No woman has come forward saying I hurt them. I have no criminal record for hurting women. There is no way I can be seen as the Devil when it comes to how men treat women on the planet. I am not at all the opposite. I believe in protecting and always being misunderstood. There have been large contingents of people who have gone to great lengths to tell lies about me. and the truth of the matter is that I have been producing content for a long time, hours and hours of videos, reduced to two or three seconds of clip, those clips have gone viral and people misunderstand me, I think you use this phrase. and being taken out of context and I'm not sure it's correct in the sense that it's still coming out of your mouth are some of the things completely some of the things that you've said I just think they're blatantly right let's do it, let's do it right, let's listen to it, let's go over it something for sure, so you said this about me too.

Stroke rate. This is probably 40 of the reasons I moved to Romania in Eastern Europe, none of this crap flies, you go to the police and say. he raped me in 1988, they'll say, well you should have done something about it back then, yeah, so what he was saying was obviously at the height of the Metoo scandal and also, if you look at Amber Heard and Johnny Depp, he has There have been a There are many high profile cases where men have been accused of things they did not do without evidence, their lives have been completely and absolutely destroyed.

When I say these things, people sit back and say, "Oh, he hates women. I don't hate women. I think that's rape." disgusting I would take a stronger stance on rape than the British government. I think these people should face the death penalty, but to sit back and say that women without evidence can go ahead and just make up accusations against men even though they have been repeatedly shown to do so. destroying men's lives at will is absolutely what happens to a woman who was raped in 1988 and then the man should face absolutely complete justice. Still, something came out of your mouth, do you accept that when that appears on Tick Tock, a lot of young people may not be as smart as you, young people, right, impressionable teenagers, we will read that and say what it is saying?

Are you saying no rape? It exists, no, completely, I'm not going to sit here as a professional and say that you can't take me out of context, what I will say is that a little phrase that you took was from an hour-long video where I explained that. Of course rape is disgusting, of course everyone should be punished for their crimes regardless of when they occur but people are not perfect men and women and if you give women the opportunity to destroy men's lives without proof , there will be a contingent of women who will do it. Do that, I'm trying to present a balanced and nuanced argument in a world where people have no intentions.

It will take a few seconds. Put it online. Decide if someone is good or bad. I'm not interested in longer format video. And here I am. No, I'm certainly a person who takes personal responsibility, that's who I am as a person, but now we live in a world with five or six second long Tick Tock videos, there's no content, you think? Do you think women are the property of men? No, the point, I thought: why did you say they are? I made a religious point. I said that when a man marries a woman, the woman's father accompanies him to the altar, accompanies her to the altar and hands the way to the man traditionally, this is what it says in the Bible I am a religious person I believe in God I live in the Muslim world so you think a woman becomes a man I think she takes her last name I mean let's look at the clip you said sure so we can put it in context so I think my sister is my husband's property, yes, when a bride walks down the aisle to marry the groom, the father walks next to her and gives her away, true or false, but I have been.

It turns out that I was married twice and both times I did not believe that the woman would leave me delivered as chattel as property and maybe the way that that is the reason why I get asked that question repeatedly and asked in a loaded way, so could you rephrase what you said there? What is it? It's an interesting point about expressing the way you would say things before you were famous. I have to take personal responsibility and correctly accept that if I make a video that 500 people watch and one percent of them don't understand it, that's not a problem if I make a video that 5 million people watch and one percent of them bash them. specifically at that point.

I think my sister is owned by a husband, she took her last name, she married him, she wanted to. to join her family, she herself has seen it right, so she is still a sovereign individual, she is absolute property, which means that the husband owns his sister, listen, my friend, if you want to argue about this, You should go back to the Bible, to the Koran, you need to discuss with religious people no no I'm not talking about anything in the Bible of the Koran but that's what it says no I'm not asking you what you think I think that if a woman marries a man and decides take her last name that they have different roles and responsibilities within that marriage and I think that is not the question that she has had.

I think like a politician, the father gives it to the man, but don't be a politician because I think you're speaking frankly, right? You keep telling me that you speak frankly. I think my sister is the property of her husband. Do you regret saying it like that? I understand that with my new fame perhaps it could be expressed in another way, however, I still believe that a woman gives herself to a man in marriage, that is what I believe, yes, but not as property now, property is the word that others people use in the question, but as an equal partner in a loving union, that's what marriage really means, it doesn't mean that when you get married, the woman gets you like a little Chapel agreed so why say it uh but that's the way people ask me the question people tell me they asked me you can't blame people for asking you questions surely if you want to be responsible for what I've said you have to own your answers don't blame to the question, I own the answer, let me ask you a question now and you say something and then you say well, actually I blame you for us, I understand, companions, companions, I understand, I think. the woman is given to the man.

I think the father gives it away. I believe that she belongs to the man, so she belongs to the fundamental right. So fundamentally you believe that a woman becomes a man's property. I believe she belongs to the man in marriage. True, I see that for me it is misogyny and you have the right to your opinion, true, but do you want to? Don't you understand why people think it's misogyny? I understand why some people can get very offended by what I say, what they do is take a point like that and ignore all the other points, I do it the other way around, that's why, that's why I've asked you repeatedly about that line to see if you've changed position, but the reality is that no, it's not about changing position, I'm an adult and I stick to the things I say and I'm responsible for them, which by the way is absolutely fine, so what you said at the beginning From this little exchange you said you knew he would.

Maybe now you don't say things the same way you did before you were famous and yet you've actually done it twice as much, it's exactly the same at certain points, so that's what you think, that's my point, yes, I'm trying to figure it out. Look, I don't know you, we just met, yeah, I'm trying to figure out who Andrew Tate is and what you really believe. I don't want to twist anythingabsolute, then maybe make it very, very clear for the camera, I think. A woman is given to a man in marriage. I think I also believe that man has the duty to protect her and provide for her.

I believe a man should give his life if something happens or his wife's life is threatened. I think when women and children are first on the light ship why, but a man doesn't own a woman, no ain't no, honestly he literally buys them as slaves, well obviously we're not talking about that, We are talking about religious. Biblical marriage We are talking about something else, yes, but I am a Christian. I don't believe it. I own my wife. Do you think your wife was given to you when she took her last name? I think there is a process where a father traditionally takes his daughter to the altar and gives his daughter to this man and they stay there and become a union of two loving people in a non-partnership, because there is no ownership involved.

I didn't say that he is selling the father of the The bride is not selling her daughter, it does not mean at all that she becomes a member of your family. I think we're arguing about semantics. We're not there because fundamentally I don't believe a man owns a woman. You do it well, I don't think. a man is master of any sovereign individual. I don't believe we live in a world of slavery. I do not own any man or any woman. Nobody owns it when you use phrases like ownership, that's what you're implying and my point again is that you're a smart guy, right, there's no denying that you're smart, you're a good, good conversationalist.

I've seen a lot of things, but when you know what, I don't think you

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y understand it now. I understand when young people are impressionable. I understand that you are not that smart. You see things like I believe my sister is the property of a husband, yes, and you just reaffirmed that yes, that belief, they think they have the right to own women. I get it very well, Pierce, and that's why people think you. You are a complete misogynist. I understand all of this very well, so when you say I was backing down, I'm not. Overall, I regret the way you phrase these things well, this is the point I was trying to make.

The point I'm trying to make is that when I wasn't that famous and I was creating long-form content, I wasn't sitting there anticipating that I had become the most Googled man on the planet and that a few seconds could be taken out of context. That wasn't my anticipation, but it's not what you believed, it's what you believe now, so what's the difference? I've had time to think about this and I wish I hadn't said it. I don't think that's a thing. You actually said the opposite. You said the opposite. Actually that's what I think. Yeah. I think when uh, then it's not like that.

It really matters if you recorded it when you were famous or not, it's what you really believe. I believe that a man has a duty to protect and provide for a woman. I believe that a woman's father gives her to the man. That's what I think. and that is in my marriage, that is the circumstance that I am going to live under if people want to live in a different scenario that is completely theirs, they are a prerogative, you went on to say about the authority over women, yes I have the responsibility for it. . I must have a degree of authority, yes, for the same reason, if I have responsibility and people are going to lose their minds, it is an example of energetic responsibility over a child.

I have to have some authority, so you think it's part of your property or your property. of the woman you have authority over her I don't think if ever that's what you said I think you ever have responsibility over something you have to have a degree of authority you can't be responsible but Authority means again that you are The boss, the point I'm making. posing, please let me finish at this point. The point I was trying to make was talking about the safety of a woman walking alone at night and I was like, well, I wouldn't let him.

My wife walks alone at night and they told me, well, you're not in charge of her, you can't decide what she does, I say, I understand, but if I'm responsible for her safety and I'm the person in charge of making sure she's safe, I have to have the authority to say don't put yourself in dangerous situations the two things are related well, you don't have the authority, you have the absolutely you can have the right to tell the woman that you I don't think you should do it, but ultimately, if she decides that I can't force their right, so Authority implies that you have the ability to control someone now.

The Authority believes that authority implies that I have the moral right to sit down and say that. that's an irresponsible thing and I'm responsible, that's not what Authority means, well I won't do it, if you think I'm going to lock someone in their room, if that's what you're implying, no, I just think I don't think you know it Authority means I know what it means. I am saying that this is a different description of authority. If I have responsibility for her safety, then I have to have the authority to tell her not to do dangerous things, but Authority means. that you have some kind of control over this woman.

I think you're trying what you're trying. I'm just trying to get to what you honestly think. I come without any agenda here. I understand it and I am explaining very, very clearly that if I have responsibility for said issue, I have to have authority over it, so let me tell you that you have children, right, you have responsibility for them. I have legal authority over my children, that is very different than having legal authority. about my wife or my partner completely, but what I'm trying to say is that you accept that I accept that you use the analogy of responsibility for a child, my friend, these are these are very important things, they are really important. things, but you present, you present, you interrupt me every five seconds, so it's hard for me to explain my point.

What I mean here is very simple: you have children and you are responsible for her safety, so you will have authority. to say don't go out at night maybe because you want them to be safe you have legal authority you have legal authority yes legal authority I'm saying if I had a woman and the question where you've raised a sound bite from I was asked about how to protect a woman by making sure for her to be safe and I said I wouldn't want her to go out alone at night because I'm responsible for her safety and someone said, well, you don't have authority over that. to do that and I said well, no, I can't make her stay inside, but if she asked me how I protect myself at night, I would tell her well, you should stay inside, that's how you should do it, I don't have that. a problem that we agree with no, it is semantics no, it is not semantics and this is what I do not think you understand why there is fury for what you say with respect because the semantic point would be that we are saying the same things of different ways but we are not.

I'm telling you that when you say I have to have some authority over a woman, I'm telling you that you have no right to any authority over a woman that you have over a child if it's yours. child because you are the designated legal guardian of that child, you are not a legally designated guardian or an authority over your legally designated wife or woman, I don't agree at all, however, when it comes to things like personal response or personal safety , men are largely accepted by society. We are the protectors and providers, we can sit here and pretend that in the world we live in, if my wife and I were walking down the street and men came up and tried to attack us, I wouldn't be the one fighting, but we both know that in actually I would be right I have a title I have a degree of responsibility to protect her survive a degree of responsibility to protect her physically so what I'm trying to say is that I will do everything possible to make sure that she never gets you wish I hadn't used the word Authority The Authority is something she would give me, she would come to me and tell me how can I be sure, but I won't interrupt you, I just want to point out that it is not what Authority means, if someone nags you, a person can get voluntary Authority is not Authority, no, but that's the point.

Pierce, if a woman comes to me and says: I want you to keep me safe, she is giving me Authority for her safety, but do you do it? I understand the difference between having authority over someone and someone giving you permission to have authority completely. I never said what is consensual and what is not, but why do we pretend that I do non-consensual things because you are literally saying that I must have a degree of authority that I do? have some authority and the point is only if I am responsible for her safety if I am not responsible if your position now is that with her permission I would like to have authority when we go out at night to protect her that is a difference that was always my position, that is not the one you said, but that was always my position, so again I'm just telling you, is that what I said?

Would you like you to express it another way? No, because we are talking about a long-form copy. where I'm talking about a woman who came to me and said "you're responsible for making sure she's safe." I said "well then I have to make the decisions" but an 18 year old guy reads "I have to have some authority over a woman, what do you think he thinks well? I get it and I said this before when you tried to roll back sales, which I'm not doing. I don't know, okay, I'm not trying to understand you, I'm trying to figure it out.

Exactly what I understand, with massive fame comes a huge responsibility. I understand that a percentage of the population is always going to take everything out of context. what someone says. Would you change the wording of what you said? No. I would just encourage people to watch my Long Form Copy and I understand, would you tell an 18 year old that you have no authority over women at all? You would say that unless a woman comes up to him and tells him that you are responsible for my safety, please make sure you keep me safe from that, Andrew.

Tate, I can sign up, so we agree, yes, but I don't agree. with what you said before because you are taking a two-hour fragment, but you have not been taken out of context because I read you everything. phrase is very you have ignored all the context around the phrase my friend you cannot ignore a phrase that says I must have a degree of authority but you can win there is a two hour conversation in which a woman tells me if she does I am responsible for your safety and I explain well if I am responsible for your safety.

I have the authority to make decisions. Yes, you can sort all contacts. You absolutely respect women why wouldn't you? Do you think the woman is 18 to 19 years old? you're more active and a 25 year old woman I think there are attractive people uh that's a trick question, I don't know, it's not really. I can't know why I ask, of course I do, but I can't sit down. here, so the benefit for you is that you don't know why I ask you, you said this in general, this is also one of the reasons why men find youth attractive, you want to blow up the Internet or block the Internet right now, fuck , the reason 18 and 19 year old girls are more attractive than 25 year old girls is because they have been through less dicks, people say, oh you can't say that, but yes I can, a 19 year old girl is more attractive than a 26-year-old woman and I'll tell you.

Because? Because that 26-year-old has talked to more guys. He has been to the club more times. He's been screwed over and abandoned more times. More discussions. More mess. More for me to clean. That's misogyny. it makes them seem infinitely less desirable than 18 or 19 year olds and having had too much sex to be taken in a more respectful way, that in the first place, even if that were the case, it wouldn't be misogyny, but what did you do? With what you said, that is not misogyny because it is not anti-women. What I'm saying is that an 18 or 19 year old woman would be prettier.

An anti-25 woman. An anti-25 woman. We can argue but not misogynist. that's massage that's no no no it's not being against any woman at all it's misogyny not when I'm not what I'm saying women are beautiful and attractive at a certain age and saying the ages you're saying are 18 19 plus attractive than 21 apart from ageist maybe but absolutely misogynistic but you just accepted that it was misogyny no, you didn't say it that was more sergeant, I'm telling you, no, it's not, so don't think about it, if you say a little hateful. things about it that aren't a little hateful, well do you think you say that to a woman's face if she's 25?

Isn't it a little hateful when you go up to 25 if you're a woman and tell him exactly what I just read. Why would she raise her to a random 25 because you said it in public? It is on the Internet and has been heard and seen by millions and millions of young people. Impressions, there was a great panel, there was a conversation for hours. Long conversations, there were feminists. attacking men for toxic masculinity and attacking me and saying things and I responded to things that we're going to get into and I think, look, it's me, which you've done yourself many times.

I think a lot of accusations are toxic. masculinity is not toxic, right, I think that kind of sentence that I just read in that paragraph is really toxic if you really mean it and say that you wouldn't say it to a woman's face, but you said it in public about women of that type. age I think that's misogynistic and I think you think so too. I don't think he's misogynistic.I understand why it may be insulting. You wouldn't say it to a woman's face. Well, it depends. You're kissing like she's walking. down the street randomly uploading 25 you are doing it to tens of millions of people online there is no difference at all we are discussing a topic we are discussing the ideal age of a man should, if young men in adolescence are comfortable with them having that mindset.

Be honest. I think young people in their teens lack life experience, they lack nuance, and they need to be very careful about what they are digesting online. Is it my content or anyone else's, I think you know for sure, millions of them are digesting exactly what you are saying all over the internet to some extent. I think whatever theme you can find, there will be a complete return to Joe. The Rogan thing, Andrew, a lot of what you say, I agree, yes, of course, I really do. I have read a lot. I have written many things.

You said a lot of the things you talk about. I think you have a good point. I agree with a lot of things, but when I read that kind of thing I wonder: How much of that is you? How much of that is ACT stuff? Do you regret saying things like this? You don't actually see it as weakness to admit that you shouldn't have said something like that no, I don't live with regret I think what happened is that, like I said, long form content discussions with feminists discussions with the toxic male crowd discussions with the left and they go to take a little clip little phrase of hours and they're going to try to paint me but I'm not left or right I don't know what you are Pierce exactly that's my point that's my point and I understand it and and you' I'm doing exactly what which I knew would happen in this interview, because you're a busy man and you're not going to watch hours and hours and hours of video.

In fact, I haven't watched thousands of hours of video and I'm coming. to the things I agree with you on and I'm going to address the things about your censorship that I have problems with, so this is a long interview for sure, I thought outside the box that you told me and you were pretty bold. Well, go on, so let's go over this and you and you should move on. I'll sit here and stand by what I said. I believe that, oh man, about that. I just read you, so yeah, do you wish you hadn't said that?

I understand how it has been misinterpreted. I understand how it has been used as a weapon against me. Do I regret it because it has been weaponized and used against me? Well, that's a little annoying. No? No? Why at that moment did I mean what I said and in the context of the conversation that you're obviously not familiar with and the people at home are not familiar with it no, I meant what I said, 25 year old women just spoke with more boys, they have been in the club, more times they have been screwed and abandoned, more times, more arguments.

More mess, more for me to clean up, well, there's a lot, there's a lot of context and conversation about it that's been lost and I don't think I'm missing much context, well. I encourage interested people to take a good look at it. but I mean, I just read three sentences in a row. I don't think I'm missing any context. I mean, you've made it pretty clear what you think about the difference between 18 and 90 year old women. I wasn't talking about myself, I was even explaining that I was talking to a Muslim who was on the panel and he was explaining how youth is highly valued in most of the world and why Virginia is valued in both parts of the world. and the feminists were arguing against it and I was sitting there, actually very much like you, as a mediator between the two, explaining why in most of the world even today perhaps not in the Western world virginity is coveted.

Youth is coveted in most of the world and for and throughout all of human history and I was sitting there explaining why certain parts of the world think they are doing well even though it is very different from the Western world. , so I was emphasizing mediation between two groups very similar to yourself, the conversation has been misinterpreted, they have taken this clip and weaponized it and used it against me. I understand it's because I'm now the most famous Google person on the planet. It's an inconvenience, but I'm definitely not a danger. for women in any aspect I date 25 26 27 year old women all the time none of them are offended by the thing I don't think you are a danger to women I think I think the danger if it comes to you the danger is influence that you have in young men to have this kind of mentality about women and that's really what I'm trying to get at is what you really believe and how much you just shoot because you think it's entertaining and you haven't.

I really thought about it a lot and if you're a little bit older now and you've had all the Fallouts where part of you is thinking actually, if I had done what Joe Rogan says, if you hadn't said things like this, you probably would have If you were still in these platforms, you would be massively more popular, massively more famous, massively richer, so I'm really just trying to address the blatantly misogynistic stuff. Do you wish you hadn't said it? With great power comes great responsibility. I certainly said it before the great power came, it is inconvenient to a certain extent, however, as I said at the time, with the context of the conversation, I know that I am not saying things that I think are harmful to the world, however , have been misinterpreted and have been misunderstood if a 25 year old woman was watching this, would she say?

I'm sorry for saying that. Oh, I wouldn't want anyone to be offended by anything I say, but I say things when I say things that offend and this. That's what's interesting, Pierce, please let me finish, are you again maybe like a politician, but wait? You could say I'm interrupting you, but you're answering a different question than the one I asked you, so as an interviewer, okay, sure, okay, sure. Okay, you accept that that is accepting that we both get along, so again my point is simply if a 26 year old woman is watching this and has heard those comments, could you just tell her I'm sorry?

She shouldn't have said that. no I won't, I'll say I'm sorry, that offends you, however there is a large contingent in the world, that doesn't mean you're sorry, no I'm not sorry, that's the point I'm making, I'm sorry No. However, if that offends you, there is a large contingent in the world that believed that and I was mediating a conversation in parts of the world that believed that 26 year old women are parts of the world where women are not allowed to go out alone , that's your That's a conversation where you have to wear

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It has nothing to do with that, but that's the kind of world for a woman. I was mediating a conversation. I ask you what you think. I don't live in a country where that happens. You're using that as an excuse for why you don't regret saying it. There are parts of the world, but this is fine. My question to you is: Do you think it's okay? I don't think it's right. I live in a world where you don't think it's okay. The reason this is not that difficult. Andrew, you can just say beers, you know what?

In retrospect, I wish I hadn't said it. It's like that and if a 26 year old woman is watching it, I'm sorry, I said that because it's actually blatantly misogynistic and while that's the opinion other parts of the world have, it's not an opinion I share now. She would respect you more if you said that, yeah, so if you try to say Well, she said it in other parts of the world, so I'm not sorry. I guess that doesn't tell me what you think, so you need to understand why my content existed in the first place. The content existed because I tried my best to be absolute, not realistic, especially with uncomfortable truths.

I was pointing out that the very uncomfortable thing is that a truth is an uncomfortable truth in many parts of the world, it is not proof that you are happy. it's not true no wait you're doing it again what do you mean by that it's true in other parts of the world that's what you said it's not you're not talking about another part of the world you're talking about what you think is the difference between people 18 and 90 year olds and 26 year old people I was talking about your belief I was talking about what the people on the panel believe the difference is so what do you think the difference is?

I think the difference is age, what's the difference? although well, so 26 year old guys are older than 19 year old guys, so you stand by what you said about talking to guys, you've been in the club for a long time and they let you shoot more times, why do you think that or No? No, there are many 26. year-old women who have been with a man or a virgin, of course, so don't believe that. I don't think age is the only thing that will decipher how many men and women, so if they don't, I believe what You said, just say sorry.

It's not about not believing what I'm saying, it's about you understanding that there are great conversations going on. I'm just reading things you've said. I know I'm asking you. Do you believe it? I think a 26 year old is more likely to have more partners than a 19 year old, right, you don't know, I don't know if you're right, in fact there could be absolutely no evidence of that, I completely agree, so, what? why say it? It's my stigmatization of all 26-year-old women, it's not that we're repeating ourselves here, but not really. I'm just trying to get to what they really believe.

I think men find youth attractive in general. I think in the context of the conversation five year old women are not old I agree with you they are not especially they are I am older you know I am much older than that the point I was making was part of mediating a Panel of a conversation between feminists and some Muslims. I understand. I get it because you understand why I said the phrase, but as far as I know, you weren't defending what a Muslim might think, you were defending what you think I was defending. the people on the panel believed it, but you said what you think it is.

I feel like you're trying to pin me down if it's not what you believe, just say I don't believe that, what part would you not believe? Well, say it. I think that part of you don't believe, there is the phrase that part of you would say now that you don't believe, I think that 25-year-old women may have had because they have been alive longer, maybe they have had more partners, but I don't think that makes them a bad person, does that make them a bad person? right?, but you understand that the way you expressed it makes every 25 year old understand a bad person, no, I don't think so, of course, you're not stupid, come on guys, Angie, you're not stupid, you know? how does that sound to any 25-26 year old woman and you are right, you have slandered all 25-26 year old women with that s

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I don't want anyone to be offended by anything I say. I want to be a positive force in the world. I don't want anyone to hear what I say and make them feel bad about themselves. I want all people to live upright and good, whether they are men or women, and anyone who needs a righteous life. I think so, yes, yes, and you openly boasted about adding six and seven partners at once. So is it so fair? There is no morality. Viewed from me simply asking you what you think righteousness means. I think righteousness is living true to your heart and knowing that you are doing good to people, without deceiving anyone, without lying to anyone.

I know I live a very straight life, have you ever been in love, yeah how? many times uh many I believe in love between men and women I am a real love, you know, yes, I believe, how many times would you say enough is enough? I think men and women are a beautiful union. I think we are a little different, but when we work. along with the most powerful force in the world how many women have you loved I don't know drill my few give me a Bullpup 5 10 20. let's say don't forget how many people you've been in love with come on I say 10 I mean I've been in love and I certainly believe that men and Women when they work together is the most beautiful force on the planet.

I believe in family. I believe in children. I believe in if you believe in family, children and love. Yes, why are you single? I'm not single, well you're not married that's what I mean, well if I was married the last thing I'd do is announce it to the wild psychopaths on the internet, which is why a lot of feds are psyched about it. You call me friend before, you can debate Pierce, but the point, the point, but the point I'm making together is that all of these want to get married if I play, no, but let's please, for example, let's please for a second , because you've interrupted me so many times, I've failed, well, actually I've just interrupted you, just be clear when you've answered a different question, well, then on all of these points and you've admitted on all of these points that you're asking one and again, you're doing, you're taking these sentences and, over and over again, you're using them for what you're weaponizing them against me.

I'm not putting anything together, okay, okay, no, no, more putting it together, putting it together well. It doesn't exist, no problem, but you told me, come on, bring it in, read out loud all the things that you think are blatant misogyny. All I've done is literally read out loud all the things that we identified in all the research that I thought were. blatantly misogynistic, I'm giving you theopportunity to respond and the only time I have interrupted you is when you tried to answer a completely different question, understood, colleagues, but these things were said in a broad context that I often talk about.

How, for example, in the same podcast where you read one of those phrases. I was talking about how it's a man's duty to die for a woman and the guy asked me if 10 men, if 10 men with knives attacked your woman, wouldn't you do it? I simply said yes. I would resist and die. I would never run away simply because I have a duty as a man. I must die on the spot to protect his honor and mine. I am talking about a man who has responsibility for his duties. about old traditional forms of masculinity and what happens is that some phrases from such a long conversation are taken and used against them.

I get it, so I want you to understand that I'm talking about protecting and providing for women. a man if you want to get married no, but this is what we have to do at home, we feed each other pairs. I'm talking about protecting a whole question, no, but I'm talking about protecting and providing for a woman. I'm talking about a man is responsible for her I understand it so of course I believe in men and women of course I believe in love of course I believe in marriage of course I believe in family the idea that I don't believe in the idea that he doesn't believe in these things if you believed in it I asked you if you are going to get married one day you would absolutely like to if I'm not married yet I would I will get married one day if I'm not well you could be secretly married I could be married , TRUE?

Why wouldn't you tell me anyway? Why would I announce to the savage psychopaths of the world who have done everything they can to destroy me to get an opinion on my private life and the most important things? sacred to me why do you think that if you said you were married, if one would hate you? I don't like people hating me. It's about him understanding that I'm a tough target, but I'm very, very protective of the people I care about. but you completely believe in the concept of marriage, that's what we were talking about the whole time, what do you think we're talking about a man giving a woman a gift?

I believe in marriage more than anyone. I believe in marriage and no, please, I believe in marriage. In the traditional sense I think a man has a duty to stand up and be a real man. I think the problem with the current world we face is that there are not enough men who adhere to the old forms of masculinity. I think I stand up and say that a man must protect a woman and take care of her, so he needs to make sure she is safe, he needs a degree of authority. I don't have a problem with no, but not with you, but people do have a problem with that and I don't feel that. and that is the world we are in now.

I'm here, I'm sure I don't have any problem with what you just said. This is where my problem comes. There are many clips of you floating around the Internet, as you already know. of them you say hit her with the machete boom in the face grab her by the neck shut up in another you say slap slap grab strangle shut up sex when people see those clips and here you say those things I agree, well, I don't think it's difficult to misunderstand it is that I could say that it is consensual, other people would say if it is consensual or not, that is a very ugly way of talking about women now that they are hit with machetes, don't watch the full video, it's a girl coming towards me with a machete and I'm saying here, Take the machete out of her hand, she is attacking me, so you don't understand, this is the exact point, no one doesn't see them in full and this is really the interesting thing and please don't interrupt.

At this point, social media has changed in modern times YouTube five years ago was five six seven eight minute long videos now we have Tick Tock 10 seconds 15 seconds 20 seconds YouTube Shorts Instagram Stories now anything you produce in format long comes down to very very briefly they are interested in clicks they are interested in interactions they find more they find the most controversial clips that they can by the way you benefited from all that everyone benefits from the views on social media yes, you are the scammer What is? He had an online school called Hustler's University and his whole job was to promote your clips, make you rich and famous, so you have benefited from this system, the one you now profess to hate, it benefits you.

I never said I hate you, click. They didn't like the best of them. I never said I hated him. I'm telling you what happened. I do not hate it. I don't hate social media. I think it is a very powerful force. I don't hate social media. I'm saying what is it, I think you can talk, look, you can talk to your friends, um, maybe a secret wife, I don't know, or two or two, maybe you have ten knowledge, that's your business. I don't care, right? The thing is, I don't care what you do in private if it's consensual between you and another woman you can do whatever you want, it's your life.

I believe in freedom and freedom is when you said in public is the influence that this guy. What does it have with young men? I agree, right, and I talk to someone who has three kids, right, it's nice the way they're intrigued by you, they're fascinated, right, you're a big deal in that tick-tock world. and so on so that everyone is aware of you and what you say so that everyone is watching. And when they see things like the machete, I understand the context because I'm a 57-year-old guy who's been around the block a little bit and I can understand what you said and you're responding to a particular scenario that you created that involved a woman, but it can be misinterpreted.

I get it, so my point to you is that you know she can be misunderstood. Do you regret saying things like this? on camera where it can be spread by less intelligent young men who think that's actually what they should do to women and we finally get to the heart of the matter, which is the point I tried to make from the beginning when I made a video before that was famous, they got 500 abuse from me, worried that one percent of people would misunderstand it, it wasn't relevant, we're not, you start getting five million video views, 50 million video views, the one percent of people don't misunderstand, it doesn't change, no.

It's not like that, but it becomes a much bigger problem and therefore with great fame comes great responsibility, so I agree. Am I famous now? Do I say things the same way I did before I was famous? Absolutely not right. Just as neither you nor almost any other famous person on the planet would, once you become famous, you have to be much more careful with the way you say things. I get it, so my logical follow-up remains: do you regret it and then say it the way I said it, I can't live with regret for saying something before I was famous in front of a camera that almost no one was looking at and then I became famous, that would be a very stupid way to look at the world that you can't live in, so you stay still. all those, I can't live with regret because I didn't know I was going to become the most famous man on the planet, that regret would be the wrong word, is it on?

Is it a drawback? Sure, but I can't sit here and let's just say I wish I'd known six years ago that I would be the most famous man on the planet and that he would control my entire speech forever. That's nonsense, but one of the problems people have with you is that they think you have a malevolent influence. Young people, this was the excuse that the big technological excuse made: excuse is the key word, well, you may actually know it. Inherently I have a problem with censorship. I don't think Donald Trump should be banned from Twitter, for example, because the Ayatollah of Iran remains on Twitter and other social media platforms, and whatever he thinks of you, you're not the Ayatollah of Iran, right?

So there are police, to me there has to be a perspective here and I don't understand the inconsistency of what Companies like Twitter, how they treat the leader of Iran and someone like you, it seems to me that they are much more draconian with people like you, yes, that with people who maybe shouldn't be allowed platforms, um, but in general, I disagree. without platform people, yes, but I think the interesting thing about talking to you is that it seems to me that you have gone on a journey of self-awareness about the impact of some of the things that you have said in the past and that you have said I wouldn't say it again in the same way.

You may not want to express regret about it, but it shows me that you've at least evolved into someone who recognizes that these things can be quite damaging the way you completely said them. As a professional and as an adult it would be stupid of me to sit here and say that now that I am the most famous man on the planet my words have no more impact than before. Impact with power brings responsibility and things need. It has to be worded in a very careful way now when I do a long form interview I have to sit there and consciously understand that 10 seconds of that can be cut out and used against me so I can be much more careful with how I how I say my words and how I construct my sentences of course we agree with all of that that's exactly what happened to me I agree with all of that I don't want to be seen as a negative influence in the world I know there are a lot of men I receive thousands of emails a week from men whose lives I have saved I receive thousands of emails a week from men who were on the brink of suicide and I have saved their lives we are talking about and certainly not I don't discuss it on absolute.

I almost certainly think, from everything I've read about you, I think you've probably been able to be a big help to young men who have really struggled with self-confidence and all that kind of stuff. true, I'm completely willing to accept that, but I think there was also a pretty disturbing article that BuzzFeed did that talked about the negative impact on young, impressionable male minds when they've read or seen some of the most incendiary things out there. I have said and they quoted, for example, Sandy uh 22 from Washington. My father left a man who cared about women's studies at the university.

He was kind and in touch with his emotions. He treated all the people, men and women, around him, and he was kind to a man who says that. Every time he sees an effeminate stranger he feels an overwhelming urge to murder him. He loves podcasts. Listen to a lot of podcasts. I know you've heard Andrew Tate. Let's stop for a second. Let's be professionals. It appears here because you are a professional Azeri. First of all, her. she said, did you say that my father when she said that my father has a father who is a grown man first of all then we are talking about my impact on children you only talked about a grown man here secondly I have never spoken of murdering effeminates? men and anything online in any context so I don't know why they have chosen a random person that I have never met in the world and who is an adult and come to their own conclusions so I have never met and grouped. his name along with mine, that is absolutely unfair on every level.

I didn't see this, I didn't read this, I didn't read this BuzzFeed article, but after hearing the first point, I know it's garbage, it's complete garbage of what it's a part of. the reason this man believes what he believes. I've seen a quote from you and you can tell me how you feel about it. I'm sure you talk about that. People don't want to see men dressed in fancy transgender outfits. That's not exactly what I said. Did you say I said the reason I'm so popular and so famous is because there is a large contingent of men who don't want to wear makeup and who still want to make money? go to the gym be strong drive a fast car be traditionally masculine and they don't want to be shamed for that and they don't want to be called toxic that's why I'm so hugely famous that's what you think of transgender people that's not It has nothing to do with me.

I'm not transgender and I don't understand the problem like they do. They can be transphobic. Do you consider yourself that transfer? I don't like transgender people I don't know any transgender people you don't like what they represent what they are no why I don't know that's not my problem that's not my problem and that's actually quite interesting because when I was attacked by a lot of these stupid articles like BuzzFeed because it's ridiculous that whole first point proves that anyone with a brain knows that's garbage when they attacked me they put a bunch of things together they say misogynist racist transphobic they just put them all together. mixed race by the way I don't know where they got this from they just get these buzzwords I completely agree it's crazy and they did the same thing to me okay and I won't call you any names.

I ask you what you personally think it is. It's not a topic. What I'm arguing about is whether he supports transgender people. Trent. I support individual freedom. I'm a libertarian, so you support transgender people. Sure, sure, why not exactly, yeah, but my point is that in general you're saying I'm saying I don't want to see men in dresses. I'm saying no, I'm just poor gay people, right, yeah. I am saying that there is a large contingent ofmen in the world who like it. the idea of ​​the traditional male view of the world that feels happy when it sees 80s action heroes with big muscles and runs and there is nothing toxically masculine about having a fast car and a beautiful girlfriend and making a lot of money, nothing in absolute. and those are the people who are my fans but the problem is okay I'm going to interrupt you just to say this no it's not okay but this you're saying I have a problem with hitmen in dresses I'm saying no people who see my contact question answered yes, but people who see my content don't want to see clearly dressed men.

I don't wear a dress well, why are they watching your content. No, you're not wearing a dress, no, but that's the point. What I'm saying is that there is a large contingent of men who are not interested in the things that maybe YouTube's algorithms are trying to present. I look when you support masculinity and masculine traits. I'm with you, okay, so you agree. a man must protect and care for a woman absolutely well, so you agree, if you walked down the street with a woman, you would be responsible for her safety, uh, yeah, absolutely great, so if that woman wanted to walk alone, I I don't think I have authority over the world while we're doing it, okay, so let me ask you another question, Pierce, because we're professionals.

Let's say your wife decided she wanted to take a nice walk on the South Side of Chicago at 2 a.m. m. and she wanted you to go with her and you were responsible for fighting and dying on the spot if she was attacked, don't you think you would tell her no, we're not going out now? It's not safe, yeah, okay, then you would do it. I have the authority to make the decisions, no I wouldn't, so I would say I don't think you should do it if she decides to do it, it's of her own free will, well if she decides that you're not going to stop, I have no power to stop her. completely, but you think so, no, I don't think I have powers, no, I think I have power to make the decision, I think no, that's not something, if you have the power to make a decision, it's hard to stop it, no , because that is where we differ.

Why do I think it's interesting about you? I don't think you really think about what you're saying. I think about what I say because we are very careful, but Andrew, what you literally just said is that you have the power to not, I said, I don't have the power to stop her, I'm not going to lock her in the room, I'm saying that, so she wants to go alone, so she will leave, but she has no authority to stop, okay, but as a couple, if we are going to sit there and decide if we are going to take this, would you feel a sense of responsibility for absolutely agreed upon safety, absolutely power or authority to prevent her from doing so?

Of course not, so let me finish the beers, you are not going to stop her from leaving the hotel, of course, it is her decision, she is a sovereign person. My point is that usually when there are a couple of people you sit there as a team and discuss and maybe on certain topics the woman will know more about X and will decide X and the man might know more about why and will decide. why, so what I'm saying is if we're a couple and we're sitting there and deciding as a couple as a team and she says she wants to take this night walk I'm going to say you know what I'm going to veto this one I'm going to call them do you believe in this dangerous right that two degrees would give me in that particular scenario I would agree Authority if she said I don't want to listen to you that doesn't give you Authority she says I don't want to listen to you Andrew I want to continue that path so what can I do say well then I don't have authority I hope to wish you the I better love you then you don't have authority great so it's a semantic argument no I really think it's the complete opposite of what you said yeah what was the authority no problem Pierce no problem but I think I think we actually talked what you believe about depression.

Do you think depression is a real thing? I think feeling depressed is real. I don't think depression as a clinical illness is. Not really, really right, you don't think people can be clearly depressed. I think PTSD is very real. Unfortunately, I have some friends who suffer from it and I know that feeling depressed is real. I think the number one power you have against these things is trying to take control of your own mind and affect your own life. I think it's unhealthy to give away all your power and believe that depression is an external illness that you can't affect.

I know this when I have had difficult periods in my life and also many of my friends, as I said, suffer from PTSD and have been through terrible things. I have lived a very difficult life and I know people who have the things that made them feel better when they woke up. I stood up and said you know what I'm not going to let this hurt me anymore I'm going to take responsibility I'm going to stand up and I'm going to fight this as hard as possible and by the way I agree with that, so my speech Favorite is Rocky Balboa, okay, then we agree, no, no, no, no, we don't agree, Pierce, don't wait, you have to let me intervene when I don't agree with you, right?

What I don't agree with you on is that there is no such thing as clinical depression, it absolutely is, it is a proven scientific medical reality, there is a different argument about whether we have become too soft in schools and everything else, absolutely yes. Do I think some people complain and complain too much about their lot in life? It's definitely okay, are we a victim society? 100. Okay, is there something called clinical depression? And my argument is that if we really bracket everyone who is not depressed out of their dignity and not If you don't have a genuine medical condition, then actually, if you consider that millions of people have depression, those who really need help They don't recover, that's my point, well, that may be it.

I agree with you, you are right, I think it is certainly overused terms, no I don't know and that to me is a harmful view, well let me explain to you why if someone comes to me and tells me that I am clinically depressed or feeling very, very sad, I would say the first thing you need. What you need to do is stop accepting the identity of a clinically depressed person, stop accepting that you have no control over this and what you need to do is stop identifying yourself that way and let's work together to try to fight the reason why.

If an eminent doctor in the world told you that there is no such thing as clinical depression, you wouldn't say it. I think I think you're just beyond. I think Johann Hari wrote a book saying exactly that my friend is not an eminent doctor, no, but he is. I said that depression was Not long ago and he was attacked for it, then Johann Hari wrote a book, because he wrote a book. Proof that I'm right, most people, Johanna Hari is a journalist, and my point is that many people who are clinically depressed are suffering with something in their life and if you fix the problem in their life maybe they won't feel depressed anymore. but it's not a disease but Andrew, you're not situational Andrew You're just wrong if that's what you believe Pierce, that's what I believe I don't believe in disempowering things there isn't an eminent doctor in the world who would agree with this I think that you know more than the doctors I can't get clinically depressed why do you know because I don't believe it I can't be haunted by a ghost if I don't believe in ghosts well let's just say I'm never going to die because I don't believe in it it's ridiculous maybe but if I allows me to live a life where I feel happy again, this is that little area where you lose me, no, I don't lose you because someone with your followers, thousands of people, the thousands of people who have sent me emails saying that my doctor He said I was clinically depressed and it's a disease that they got into my brain and I can't fix it and I started listening to you and I realized that's not the case and I can fix my own life and you're the only person who can fix me. has helped thousands of people email send me that email if you think you are curing people from clinical depression on your own you are living in the cloud curriculum.

I'm reading emails from people I've cured of clinical depression. you are reading emails from people who have believed you when you say there is no such thing and have probably never been diagnosed with clinical depression, they just want to accept what Andrew Date says. I don't think so and I think your point of view on this is dangerous. I respect it. I think my point of view is dangerous and I respect that. You have the right to see it. If you think I think clinical depression, I actually agree with you, is grossly overdiagnosed. I've already said that PTSD is a very real thing.

I said it already. I couldn't stand it, again, you confused me. I didn't say that clinical depression is grossly overdiagnosed. I said that people who say they're depressed but don't have clinical depression, I think that's hugely exaggerated, in other words, there are a lot of people who are just having a bad day, yeah, and they claim that I have depression, yeah, and I'm like, well Have you been to a doctor, have you been clinically diagnosed? If you have clinical depression, that's one thing, but if you have. We could probably work on some mental toughness and resilience skills with him, but a clinically depressed person has an absolutely proven medical condition that is out of their control, not according to me and many others, my friend, look, what do you know about it?

Honestly. psychiatrist, you are not any of those things, you are certainly a budding guy, you have done very well, saying things that I agree with, as you have seen in the interview, but some of which are ridiculous and that is a. of them is not ridiculous, it's not that you told me that we are a victim whose society has to stop. I'm with you, okay, but the moment you try to deny clinical depression, I think feeling depressed is real, I don't think so. It is a disease that is caught from the sky and you cannot affect it.

I think whatever happens. I believe you have control over your own mind and you can fight it. I believe that if you change the circumstances of your life, you can feel differently. I'll give you a quick example. I had a guy send me an email saying that he is clinically depressed and that he was going to commit suicide. Obviously I'm not a psychiatrist. I'm not doctor. I told you because I responded to my emails. I told him: do you have it? I went to a psychiatrist and he said yes, I am clinically depressed. I have been taking these pills for so long.

I'm taking antidepressants, it doesn't work. I told him I don't know what to say besides this and he said he lost his girlfriend that's why I got clinically depressed I said listen go to the gym buy yourself a six-pack first once you have the six-pack email me again you still feel like committing suicide I don't know what else to tell you but I would say that a strong body is a strong mind. Go train. He went and started sending me progress photos of him. Considering that I feel much better, etc., the doctor told him that he was clinically depressed and that he could not cure him, he began to take control of his own life and now he felt better.

I'm not saying that's the case for everyone I'm with. I'm just saying my question. Have you seen the guy's medical records? Of course not. I just told you that the student is taking him at his word. Oh, I'm taking the words of a man who emailed me a bunch of medications and details. You know it's annoying. Tried. science because some guy writes to you who you help and you haven't seen any evidence that you have ever been diagnosed with clinical depression. I'm denying the idea that behind that, you rant in public to tens of millions of people. denying something because this guy writes to you and says he had it and you cured him and I think that's a dangerous mindset Andrew, that's fine, that's where you don't have a responsible view of your influence.

I don't agree, it's very responsible because I'm saving people. lives I don't agree that if you're on a diet you have it if you feel depressed I don't agree that you can't affect it and change your life and take control and fix yourself and feel happier I don't agree with you I refuse to accept that there are people out there who cannot become happy and contented individuals I refuse to accept that we live in a world where God has created people who no matter how hard they work and how good their life is they cannot be happy I do not accept that I accept that the universe is a very generous place and that God loves us all and if you do your best and work hard you can become a better person and I will also argue with you and counter the point that you are sitting here on your platform saying the people They have clinical depression, there's nothing they can do about it, it's a lot more data, okay, so if they have clinics, why don't they misquote? because you're saying it's misquoted, no, you're saying that if people have clinical depression they have something to do. about it, they go to the doctor and they get diagnosed and they get help, so I would argue the point that someone opposed to what you just said I said, I would say that if someone has depression of any kind, if it is clinical, if it exists. or not, ifWhether you feel depressed or not, whatever taking control of your life, taking personal responsibility and working hard will always be the best and positive thing you can do for your life in the future, so sitting here saying, "I don't believe in the clinic". depression you don't believe in depression no, I don't believe that people can take control and fight things, I believe in personal sovereignty, okay, then we agree that it will be done yes, it will not be done, the beers are in I am afraid of being canceled along with me.

I told you from the beginning. That's all. I completely agree with a lot of what you say, so I thought I'd criticize you for the things I don't agree with. Sure, and I'm not sure you understand why it's wrong, which in itself is pretty revealing. Let me tell you about Alex. Let me tell you about Alex Jones. I have a little history between them to be deported from the United S

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s. What is your opinion on Alex Jones? I believe Alex Jones is a sovereign individual who, like the rabid left, deserves the opportunity to speak about his views.

I think the truth about problems usually lies somewhere in the middle. between two extremes and I think you think Sandy Hook was a setup. I don't know anything about Sandy Hook, you really know the families just sued him for millions and millions. I have no idea, you don't know anything about it, no, so why? Would you support someone in public? You know nothing about the most infamous. When have I supported him in public? You have supported him in public. I've been on this podcast, yes, but you said good things about it. I say good things about a lot of people.

What do you think about the exchange? I said good things about you, Pierce, that's fine, so to sit back and say I was on a podcast and I say good things about it. You support their right to talk about things like Sandy Hook. I don't. I know Sandy Hook I don't know and you know what it was, it was a mass shooting of school children, okay, but to sit there and he actually didn't, no, let's stop for a second, please don't interrupt me, here's why what are you me. I know why you're good at your job, first you interrupt people a lot, which is good, it's a good skill and then here you go, prove me right, but this is the time, this is exactly what I did.

I only interrupt people like you when you don't either. He refused to answer the question or answered a completely different one, of course, and I want to remind him what the question was when he misquoted me, which he has done repeatedly during the interview where he says he sees his colleagues and agrees with me and the viewer. whoever's been watching will leave no it didn't cool down no problem the other thing you have to do is try to set these traps like now so you're saying what's the trap you think I'm setting you're saying I agree with every The only point of view a man has.

I literally didn't say you're saying you support Alex Jones. Why did you misquote me? Because you're saying that you support Alex Jones and you said that he, you've been on his and his podcast. said this I don't know what you think about the exchange I don't know everything he said what you think of it I think I think he was cordial on his podcast I think he was professional on his podcast I did it too podcasts with rabid leftists and people who openly hate me is that wrong ? I do a podcast circuit so I don't know everything he's said when he likes someone, I don't know what, so I don't know what you're trying. to get here because I didn't say a word I'll tell you it's pretty it's a dumb trick if you let me say a word I'll tell you come on Alex Jones said Sandy Hook didn't happen it was staged by actors okay this compounded the excruciating pain of the families of those 20 poor kids, okay, who were gunned down by a lunatic with an AR-15 semi-automatic rifle, were already strict and incredible Greeks and this guy got gas. about that pain quite deliberately to make a huge amount of money from his fake Infowars news and as a result many families have sued him and won and he will have to pay back tens, perhaps hundreds of millions of dollars in damages to these families and very well, he won't do anything about the pain he calls them, some of them actually have people showing up outside their houses with guns because Alex Jones had told them that these parents were making it all up, they were all set up. actors, everything was run by the government, so I'm just telling you now that I told you what your opinion is about Alex Jones.

I don't see why any of that has to do with me. It's very interesting. I have done. the guys podcast I know him well, he was professional and courteous to me when I meet someone and they show me respect, I show them respect, that's what I do like I did with you, you respect that. If someone shows me respect, I show them respect. so I don't know, I don't know if Hitler shows you respect, you would respect him too, it's a stupid question, it's not, it's a logical extension of your argument, no, if in 1931 I was walking through Germany and a man approached me and he apologized for running into you I would say sorry no problem eh I would show respect I don't know what you're trying to say I sanctioned the Holocaust he literally just said if someone respects you you respect them too. say if someone shows me respect I show them respect that's a good way to live life whoever it is if someone shows me respect and is polite to me I'm polite fact I didn't respect someone who caused so much misery and pain that I have I have no idea the details of what you are discussing.

I don't understand anything well. I didn't know anything about it when you told me your side of the story. When did you go to the podcast? I was on the podcast around four. four times in the last four years I did one relatively recently, it's full time four times you went to Alex Jones' podcast right promoting it, helping him make I think I was promoting and helping him because well, it's his podcast, well, yeah, but I. I've been on the podcast of people who absolutely hate me. I've been on left-liberal podcasts. I'm not a feminist podcast.

I know you sat here saying "I am, I am." I wish you would agree, maybe we can agree. at this point that I'm not a feminist I'm going to podcast feminist I do a podcast circuit I'm not a feminist I don't I don't know what you think feminist is well let's not change the subject here Pierce stay on the side you mention feminism completely you said you're trying to get away from the point because what you did is you're trying to say because I made a podcast, I sanction this person's opinions and say I make five podcasts a week.

I make five. podcasts a week and I don't take 100 points of view from any other person on the planet because I'm an individual and he has individual points of view after you so I don't know why you're trying to attack me with one. from the views of him and pretend it's something, it's a pretty big view, no, but it's a lame trick, show up and you're better than this, so let's move on. Could you explain to me if it had a podcast? what you're talking about Vladimir Putin had a podcast to continue if Joe Biden had a podcast I would if a feminist has a podcast I would continue it looks like Morgan has a podcast I'll continue that if Alex Jones I mean I don't see the point you're making there's no point here you're just digging but there's nothing to find well no I'm taking your position that if someone shows you respect respect them I guess I'm saying there are a lot of people in the world I don't respect if Vladimir Putin me show respect, I wouldn't respect it, but that's your opinion, but no, it's my point of view, okay, that's your point of view, well, your.

Still, could you be sitting here with your peers saying that I'm on an uncensored show and in your introduction you said that it's important that we don't have Echo Chambers and that we have very correct and different opinions, but then? you're saying that people you don't like you wouldn't go to their podcast no, then you're a hypocrite no, I'll go to anyone's podcast. I don't think you understand what censorship means, do you like many of them? words we've had trouble with today you're just saying what you're doing censorship means no, but the point I'm trying to make here you know what you think censorship means don't hide from the fact that you're saying you'll only do podcasts with people who you like them, why do you think that's censorship?

That's your prerogative. My prerogative is that I will only do the censorship. I will discuss it. I will discuss opinions with anyone and have done so a lot. On the left, why don't you ask me about the podcast I've done for people who are radical liberals? By the way, I don't care if they are left-wing or right-wing extremists. uh, all crazy, so we agree, yeah. perfect good next topic very good here's my next topic it's a very serious case here Jesus and before we move on I'm sorry Pierce but before we move on I find it a little false and I know we're on a show and we don't I don't have a personal problem with you, but it's a little disingenuous to try to sit here and lump me in with something related to a school shooting that has nothing to do with me.

I had nothing to do with it. I mean, on any level, let me respond on any level. Let me explain to you how you just said you've been on this podcast four times in four years since you said it was all staged. I don't know and I just think the fact that a smart guy like you wants me to believe that you had no idea that Alex Jones, who has been in the news for the last two years, has been sued by these families for the most egregious imaginable: pouring gasoline on his pain by claiming the shooting was a set-up of the fact that you pretending you didn't know about it, it's not about pretending you've been on his podcast four times, supporting him and making him money.

So if you believe, I'll get your attention when I do a podcast. I spend time analyzing each person's point of view and everything he has said for years before, so years were minutes, years and years, you are trying to group me and attack me because of a person whose podcast I do. having an opinion is absolutely childish because as I've done a ton of podcasts, I've done a ton of podcasts with people advocating for good things that I don't agree with on every level, in fact, most of my podcasts are me. disagree with people so it's completely crazy that you're trying to include me without that that's cheap that's cheap you're completely misunderstanding the point of what I'm saying I think deliberately no no what you're trying is a cheap trick and I "I'm just making it clear.

I'm just curious where you are and what your moral line is. It's a cheap trick. I don't agree with the views of most of the people I podcast with, so it's a very cheap trick." I'm trying to get people to make up vile things to get rich off of families of little kids who have been torn apart by a machine gun or a semi-automatic version of a machine gun. I think that's actually a line I would use. I wouldn't be mad, I wouldn't be happy to appear on someone's podcast when they've been responsible for doing it.

This isn't about political views or differences of opinion on facts, this is about someone deliberately making up a bunch of lies to compound the pain of families and I'm just curious that you don't think you need to face any kind of moral dilemma about people like that before you continue to allow them to use you for their own promotion he didn't use me, he didn't Don't use me on the podcast because we didn't agree and we argued points like we are doing with you right now. Did you draw his attention to whether you're using me? We don't discuss what I'm not using.

I'm giving you a platform that most people aren't giving you right now to show the world who you really are fantastic so none of us are using each other I'm here on your show I'm giving you content you're giving me content Giving a platform and no one using each other is mutual, we disagree on a lot of issues, that's fine and here we are. I think we've had a solid exchange, yeah, like I've done on almost every other podcast and just in case anyone comes over. and tell me in the future that something, God forbid, there was a skeleton in your closet and some would come to me and say you were on the Piers Morgan show, did you know she's his ex or that it's over?

X I would say that's absolutely nothing to do. entitled but I make the same point protecting you I don't know what you do I don't know your personal guarantee I can guarantee you one thing I won't be making up stories I have families I wait for you I hope that I I hope not, I hope you are an upright person, but I don't pretend to be a upright person Don't know. I'm just saying that. I think it's interesting that you have no moral obligation to attack people. How about morals? compulsions is about I don't know what you do Pierce, you might have a lot of skeletons in your closet my friend, I have no idea.

I'm here on your TV show. I'm sure we all have many skeletons. I know, let me ask, let me ask you this interesting thing about feminism, sure, do you identify as a feminist? I think women and men are fantastic, we are both fantastic. I think women reproduce. I think women need to be respected, protected, proportionate. I think heModern feminism is a bit difficult for me, even really, what do you think it means? What is feminism? I think the idea of ​​feminism is that men and women are equal before the law and do you think we should be treated fully?

Yes, but we are equal before the law, wouldn't you agree? Not really. I think there are still some issues in the world where I mean, certainly in the workplace, the gender pay gap remains. In most cases, women are not treated equally. Well, the gender pay gap can be discussed. I think that has already been discussed at length. I think there actually is one. I think women should go to work. I think women should fully work. Why wouldn't they? Because in some parts of the country of the world. You were mentioning before that they have different views on women, they're not going to work in the parts of the world where that podcast person was from because of the point I said, yeah, they didn't, but I don't live in those parts of the world.

I think women should be free to work if they want to. I think it is very important that the family unit remains. I think that, from my personal point of view, the most important and respectful thing a woman can do is become a mother. I think having children. It's a beautiful thing, but obviously, if women want to work and have a career, especially now with paternity leave and maternity leave, and they can do both, why wouldn't you want women to work? I don't know why anyone would do it. Have I ever assumed that I don't want women to work or I think women can't work because I said I should keep them safe, sometimes well no, but it's interesting because you have to look at Pierce, it's interesting how people extrapolate Andrew said that women that he is responsible for a woman's safety and he said that gives him authority to make decisions for her safety and that has been misinterpreted and he is a bad person.

He believes women are property, but now we believe Andrew doesn't believe in love. Andrew yes. I don't think women should work and I don't know where all that comes from, so I'm glad we had a chance to fully discuss it. I believe that women are sovereign individuals and can make any decision they want. I think it's important that we remember that a man has a duty. I think that certainly in my relationship I have a financial responsibility to support my wife. My wife would never have to work unless she wanted to because I'm the type of person who works.

Hard enough should my young people, although they all aspire to be like you, should young people aspire to work very hard, have no criminal record, become multi-millionaires, protect and provide for the women close to them, be sovereign so that they can stand up and have your own. views versus cancellation being able to not feel mentally intimidated when they appear on national television and there are traps set for them yes, I believe that strong, confident men standing up, protecting and caring for women is a good thing for the world and a good Force for the world and I don't think he put a magic spell on anyone.

I believe there are a lot of men in the world who understand my value and if men grow up to be like me, you are I'm going to have a lot of people with no criminal records, dedicated athletes who protect and keep the people close to them, They are great for the economy and we and I are not. I'm certainly not the worst influence here, mates you have. little Nas twerking with the devil in music videos our kids are digesting. You've got, uh, Drillar, singing about stabbing people to death amid an epidemic of knife crime. You have rabid psychopaths about whether the right or the left announce violence against the other.

On the other hand, you have all this crazy stuff going on in the world and because I sit here and say, yeah, maybe now you've come forward and I've offended you, I get it, okay, great, I just read to you the things that you read, things that you said that they might be offensive and some people are offended, well some people definitely absolutely got offended, that's fine and honestly I think some of the things you said were genuinely offensive and misogynistic, okay so you were offended, like I said before, so you were offended, which is fine, I said you were offended. you interrupted me and now you say you were offended which is fine but the point I am trying to make is that I am not the devil there are certainly people worse than me and I am saying that my primary tenants the people who don't understand me are responsible of themselves, so I am responsible for everything I have said, my main tenants are responsibility, so I am responsible for everything I have said, the tenants of my court are traditional masculinity to a degree that involves protecting and caring for women and I will make another point, another point here, that is very, that is very, it is very necessary to say, the number of women who have stood up and defended me is ignored, thousands of women are making videos saying: " I met such a nice guy.

I wish I had a man like Andrew Tate who felt responsible for protecting and supporting me. You know what I do. I belong to my husband. That's why I married him and I love him. We ignore the thousands of women who stood up and got ready and stood by me and said everything I said is true and we are taking a very vocal minority who have taken the things I have said and pretend to be absolutely Nutley devastated for them for some reason, time, I'm sure I've had a good career there, I'm sure an inquest this week found that a 14-year-old girl, Molly Russell, died from active self-harm while suffering from depression and the negative effects of online content.

The coroner said that she was exposed to material that may have influenced her in a negative way and also she started this depression and it turned into a much more serious depressive illness and very sadly she took her own life, that's absolutely disgusting, right, her father It's terrible, his father's campaign for better protections against potentially dangerous social media algorithms. true, she says that the particularly graphic content that she or romantic acts of self-harm normalized her condition and focused on a limited and irrational view without any counterbalance of normality in the first place, what is your response to that which has nothing to do with you?

Yes, that's the first one. Yeah it has nothing to do with me the fact that a 14 year old girl took her life is really sad the world we live in today is the rule we live in the fact that something like that happened is almost mind-blowing to me, that's really, that's really sad, I actually feel sad inside seeing something like that, the fact that they just said this romanticizing the Gory element, I don't know what, she was watching some kind of videos of suicide today, I don't know where you think these things. tech companies should be a lot tougher on other things, I don't know what kind of things she saw, obviously I have to be a professional here, I think tech companies should do everything they can to protect people, I guess even certain point, but it's a slippery slope, right?

And then they use this slippery slope to silence some people and do the right thing and I think it's a very fine line and it's a complicated line, it's very interesting. I was interested when you did an interview with Times Hugo Rifkin is a very good journalist, he did a great interview with you and his conclusion was interesting to me because he came to the conclusion that, although he found many of the things you said horrible and offensive, he did not did. He liked them and didn't want to be that kind of person who would say those kinds of things nor could he really understand exactly what you've done, which deserves a massive takedown by all the tech companies.

I thought it was an instant conclusion. You do not know? I don't know the answer to that other than the reason I brought up the Molly Russell case, not because it has anything to do with you, and again, thank you, so I'm just asking you what happened. What was clear to me in the interview is that many of the things you say you would not say now and that you have said them before I thought you would say them differently, yes, of course, so for me that is an acceptance, not just that you want return. on the platforms because maybe that was one of the reasons you weren't a platform, but you recognized and understood the potential harm to the wrong kind of impressionable mind by some of the things you've said.

It would be fair? I think that's 80. Fair, I recognize and understand that with massive fame you have to be more careful not to be misunderstood, as I said before, one percent of people don't understand you, it doesn't matter with a small audience, it matters with a very large audience, with power comes responsibility, I still believe. The things I say, I don't want to be a negative Force for the world. I also understand that I am a man who has lived a very difficult and nuanced life and I am able to make nuanced points that teenagers can misinterpret, no matter how you say that. about anyone and everything, every opinion online can be misinterpreted by children trying to protect children from the internet is a very interesting topic in itself because I would say that 80% of the content on the internet can be negative or harmful to a young mind. that doesn't understand the world, yeah, I would say all this we're just talking about music videos and dancing with the devil and all this, all this is dangerous, by the way, I think you have a very good point about it, so many of these rap stars, the lyrics, the videos, I think they far outweigh anything you've been accused of because in many cases some of them promote non-consensual activities with right people and I think that crosses the line.

As far as I've seen, you haven't crossed that line, no, I haven't and I and this is the thing and I've been vilified not for the things that I say because there's already a lot more extremist content on the Internet. I think the reason I've been attacked and vilified is because of popularity, because I became enormously famous, not because of what I was actually saying, so as a professional I analyze that and understand, okay, now I'm enormously famous and certain things. They have been taken out of context, however, I still believe that I am a Force for Good in the world and I am not going to sit here.

They've changed? Although I don't, it's not about changing. Which are? We are all involved. in Evolution, how old do you know I'm 36? 36 truth. I bet you're a different person than you were when you were 26. Oh okay, that's absolutely how it is, we all change and Mike, you keep talking about being a good person, yeah. I think if you're honest with yourself, yes, you can see why people found a lot of the things you said problematic and misogynistic and I think you recognized that you wouldn't express yourself that way again because you've understood. It's caused a lot of damage and that's really what I was getting at today: an acknowledgment from you that these things were clearly said incorrectly and created the wrong impression if you didn't mean them the way you intended and can do it. therefore you have a malevolent influence when you have a large number of followers, yes when you have a large number of followers you certainly have to be much more careful with how you convey certain points, that is absolutely a fact Andrew.

I appreciate you coming from Romania, thank you. This has been an interesting conversation and I thank you for having it. Greetings. Well, that's it for me. Whatever you do. Keep It Uncensored. Good night.