All Stars S4E3 "Snatch Game of Love"

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eh s4 it seems like it was yesterday that they were crowning me as the queen of the snakes and now here we are, I saw that new bt-dubs video, yeah, the one that was supposed to be on Thanksgiving, it was supposed to be on Black Friday and then because of the holidays this song wasn't coming out so I thought.

It has to be a consumerist day mm-hmm so how more consumerist is Jaden Christmas? Totally true, yeah, I thought it would be a great video if it had our sister Jade Jolie in it, yeah, Calpernia Addams, it was um, it was frivolous and fun, yeah, it was. There were so many really amazing people working on set, the vibes were really fun and I hadn't done a music video like that in a long time and so many people styled me and judged me and it was a hammer. production yeah girl he's got the crew he's got the Kiki show yeah he's got a girl with scissors all the jewelry was taken from Raja because we did it all at the last minute like everyone only had a couple of days notice and everyone just joined in. and I liked it, it was really a pleasant experience, it's charming.

Farah had a pleasant experience at all

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. I think he told everyone to shine all the stars in a lipstick message last week after he brought the house down. I sent it to the house you know

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s me. The thing about this episode is like making it an anomaly, yeah, the fact that it was a drop, yeah, it leaked on the Well Presents Plus app, that's where you know, oh, that's where they can call it. a leak, but what really happened is that it was published, so how is that? Why do I think they knew people would be talking?

It's a great talking point and they're getting to the front of the story and they want a lot of time now that they have it. two weeks to get to the front of what story oh this this this villain story they have definitely established with mystery a weapon now they have two weeks to establish the story and the press and the hearts and minds of their Watchers and this is the story of season they're ruining Gaea that's the file they're on and they're bringing her back probably because everyone always comes back for the stars you know they do all that every season the girls are back so it's not like I'm dripping I'm dripping yourself drip yes, not with this period for the man, gather me that cushion is ruined.

I know you just came from a session. Did you say well? They are not. I don't think Gia Gunn is broke. Let's go for it, she knows anyway, metaphysically, theoretically, I don't believe at all that they can't tame a dragon, no, and I think she is someone who can follow this narrative and already is, yes, she is Rishi's . I like that she's Reese. what people may think about her because at any given opportunity on a microphone she will go straight to her platform and talk about it and she has a few words to choose from which has made the crowd applaud from what I have heard so far but she is expressing his points.

I know the problems she had with what Rue and production have said about the trans issue and she no longer bites her tongue, which I love, I love, a girl unleashed, right? I love a girl, untie her, untie her Girl, tie that tongue, yeah. I'll see what I can do yeah so you think he was intentionally put in good prisons plus I think someone pressed the wrong button and these things happen with technology and since I don't know young people that person was probably fired for sure for how long. Was it on the app and I just sat there because it feels like it was several days over 48 hours because I watched it twice?

No, I just downloaded it. Someone sent me the link. I don't know what kind of unit, but okay, so my girlfriend sent me. a clip and then my other girlfriend sent me a link and then I sent it to all my friends and then I was like, "Make sure you share this because when a leak like that happens, I mean, especially within this fanbase, it doesn't contain the state". he knows everywhere thank god, thank god for you people don't have days like Napster, you know, I ruined a computer with LimeWire, my dick was raw and my hard drive was ruined, are we sure that he wasn't feeling well?

I don't even see that I don't have access, I'm not a member, it's just that where it came from maybe we can get a decision from the fans because they don't even have a section like the only thing I don't have. read them, maybe it was international, the only thing they don't even have. I can't even on RuPaul's Drag Race, it just appears uncovered, so it must have been international. I don't know, maybe someone might like to text us or leave it. We know what the T is with all that. I think it's rare for a mistake of this magnitude to happen, so it's the whole episode that makes you wonder if it was intentional and if it was, and now people have something to do with it. during Christmas they knew they were like the people who were going to be at home touching their loved ones wanting to hate someone, let's leave it to Gia, well, let's get into this, let's get into this episode.

I really liked him, yeah, I think he was the right person. at home last week Farah I love it and I get a lot of nonsense online about getting into her people and my Gigi asked me yesterday she's like someone said she sent me links to get into Farah and I thought she's like a time code because she doesn't have time to listen to everything but she went here, bring me the time code so you can listen to it and she says you didn't really go and I mean everything you said was true. I was like yeah, it didn't seem like it. she was having fun up there and you know there were obvious mistakes and I think she would have done something differently.

I'm not going to get into it, stop trying to make drama, there are all these headlines in other languages ​​that I can't read and See my name in the name of Pharaoh and I know what they're talking about I know what you're talking about I see you oh ho well I mean, the truth is that I love Fair a lot and I've worked with her in real life HM Yeah, honey, and it's funny, yeah, and you know, when you get thrown into this fishbowl, especially All Starz, you know that they're all sharks and it becomes like when there's blood in the water, someone has to go, what kind of like that, oh God.

God, what a look, I was trying to think of an alternative talent if you were going to suggest a pheromone for next year's All-Stars, maybe a Redemption. I was thinking she might, or she does this, you know how Carmen sometimes does to us. a mixture of glitter, tanning oil and body massage Farrah makes this wonderful mixture and rubs it on her body. I would have loved to see her mix everything she wears to highlight and tan her body like I did. Be like a Hannah dad or a chain smoker. I think she should get back to doing burlesque and cite all rights.

Speak, wait. Can we go back? Because Gus Kenworthy just revealed her greeting. These are this week's guest judges. The guest judges are. Steph, they are so fierce this season, they really are, it's so smart, our guest judges aren't dragging, the looks are getting really outrageous. Kenworthy made a rose petal reveal mulch, not roses like lilies, and ki naeun looks like she came off the hardcore training tour, yes, completely, she's in a full Mother Africa bib, yes, well, they have had, yes, so we moved on to the next day. Okay, Valentina's changing looks once again, I love it, I miss, she's wiping them off the mirror message and says, I know.

I'm Mexican, but I don't even know how to clean and there wasn't a general refusal to clean, but she wasn't doing well, so I don't think she's the new me. I'm not the new me but um I could be cleaning on TV yeah you can't see me I wouldn't do it with Windex yeah unbranded Windex so this is very exciting because when it happens this week everyone knows it's coming and everyone. is really ready for it and it's the starter

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but this time it's with a twist and it's the starter game of love. I have, what do you think about this new format?

I didn't love the love starter game format because I thought the two best people were on one team and since each team had a winner, those people were the quote-unquote best of the week. I think it's true, I think Naomi could have been one of those better ones and with Trinity I think Naomi and Trinity should have done it. been the best of the week who was the other best, uh, it was Manila. Oh, Manila was great too, yeah, but I thought overall Naomi was liberated and strong and yeah, I thought it was a disservice that she was on top and part of the group.

The starter game is like the real game, it doesn't matter, it even says at the end that the winner is who cares, so this one has clear winners, whether they are chosen by the producers and then told the can. The guest judges are told who it really comes down to or if it really comes down to the Athenian white girl. I don't know, I don't know, they put it in the hands of the guest judges, it's like you can't trust them not to. like dressing up a fan sometimes, yeah, like it should be, it should be, the winner should be chosen from the first, you know, I think every contestant who did wrong was given one last question at the end.

I think I remember Gia was the last one. question for his team like they're really trying to like, oh, and while you're down there digging that grave, move another foot forward, you know, it was very, oh, hey, it was a tough performance, yeah, I mean, we should've done it. all. Kiki with gia, we've all dated her, she definitely has humor and she's funny, she's a comedian, no, and there's a certain music in this type of comedy, it's like a kind of setup and punchline, and something like a million, yes, etc. Sure exactly and not everyone listens to that music and it's really with some of these girls, yeah, you can say Trinity handles the beat, but uh, and that's why almost Caitlyn Jenner's characterization of her was kind of like that. perfect for this, yeah, because it's kind of like, yeah, yeah, yeah, which is what you know, the couples game and what's it called Bachelorette or the batch game of the dating game, dating game, yeah, yeah , a newlywed game about Yes, I think finding a rhythm with comedy is easy.

One tip I had was that if you can't find a joke in a comedy script, she always pretends it's a borscht belt and then you can find it there and just tone it down. just in the way you say something you can turn anything into exactly. Do you think the showdown between Gia and Trinity would ever result in the two-Kaitlyn story that the Queens are producing for themselves? Oh, and you can see that they have a little meeting in the Van look baby, that stage themselves I mean, we have Latrice and Trinity and Manila here has the wig on the side that she picks up I mean, on stage, this is that the Reina has a meeting in the van beforehand and says okay so we're going to like having a scene, are you ready?

This is a non-union production of RuPaul's Drag Race. Jesus never intended to do Caitlyn Jenner, I don't think, and she's based on Intel, but hey, it was a fascinating scene Monet had. I also have no intention of doing a Whitney after that wig, but she still did it. They show her choosing this wig as if she were going to be Whitney. It's not even your love, it's my love. Whitney Whitley has never used the Whitney she never would. She's just a different character because she has glasses, why wouldn't she do Oprah and why would Whitney favor?

Now, now we're just weaving theories. I'd like to call Monet on the phone and find out. We have her phone number or it appears, girl. I will text the system and send you a text message. She was hacking into the matrix. We will take a short break and try to contact our sister. Yes, December 31. The madman is great. The new, healthy team of the crazy person inside every crazy person is one way to help you accomplish more of your 2019 resolutions. Are you looking to get in shape? Try an energizing edible before you run and maybe a Subin pain relief CBD bar for after you can suck on it. will give you a list like the exact place to visit a store near you and they have knowledge in the store team including in-house pharmacist, medicine stores, they will not make sure you find the product you are looking for. easy and understandable instruction cards on how to use those things, so go to med men.com to find the store morethe limits for Manila to broach the subject and Valentina ass like she was asked for her cherry or something, Jesus Christ. but I like that gia discusses it with Manila because she knows that this was her last chance as she tells the story of her journey and her transition and that some of the situations in the race are taking her back to the time when she was doing drag and she wasn't happy with herself and was cheating her behavior, yes, and I know that when I get nervous sometimes on stage I tend to talk too much or lower the level or make personal attacks, even if it's easy, it's like a jab. and sometimes he doesn't seem friendly or fun and i think gia was probably nervous and liked to reach for all the straws and the size and the obvious looks, there were jokes and she grabbed them, yeah usually when drag queens grab a straw it's a lot more . fun, but then you can cut it in half at an angle, yeah, I like that the couch sessions this week are pretty short and now you can get the story out of them, just as she was, like I know exactly who I'm putting and that you like your novels. like I don't know is what it is I think you are I think I'm probably not I think it's better television if you leave it open because then you start my life because then you don't know who will win the lip sync who will choose whose lips her pencil lipstick, but it depends on, I mean, Trinity was being real, she wasn't about to pretend, and even Hammond, for one, was letting the story do its thing.

I said I'm going to tell you and then you're going to do whatever you want with it, but like Trinity was being herself, I don't think I should say, well, I don't know who I'm going to send home for an interview because it's a waste of time. Trinity is tough Trinity. the - yes, when Naomi is chatting with Valentina, she says how do you feel, Valentina and Valentina says: I feel beautiful right now and she's right, she looks beautiful, she's wearing that wig of good friend Frenchman Maurice Maurice, that's what that Maurice Portia yes, it's good hair, it's good hair.

I also like that Valentina says: do you know what I can have your cocktail? Well, that's right, yes, that was me in season 5. I would always like to drink everyone's drinks. You Call Your 20s, season five. Some girls. they'd like to drink their drinks really slowly and it would be like almost the end of unbuttoning and I'd be like, um, give me that Indy tuxedo, it'd be like cleaning everyone up, like, "I'm so sorry you had a cap." "All thanks to us, oh yeah, I wonder what it would be like to be drunk, it's so much more fun, so much fun, Valentina bragging that she's literally at the bottom, that she might be able to go home and that she's literally like." I feel so pretty right now, I want to be so beautiful that you can't think of anything else adjusting the narratives, it's like you know what, I feel like your house is burning down around you and like the dogs are eating your feet and you're like I just feel like my specialization was so fixed right now examining my hair so 100% done I want it I want to go I want to visit that mentality I've never felt like that because immediately after I turned my head a little to the left and I thought Oh, did they realize they were afraid?

My favorite colored bangs it's great to have on stage with you because it creates movement, it's a little party and Manila is smart, she uses the architecture around her, so how does she tell the story and push and Trinity uses them? Okay, and these are two different interpretations of the song. I think Manila is giving a very sincere performance and Trinity goes for more humor and that's why I think Manila wins the lip sync because obviously this is like an emotional connection point for RuPaul and Michelle. Definitely and probably for a lot of people, but you don't want Whitney to like RuPaul's comedy, yeah, I remember, when I met Milan, she did something inspired by Whitney, they were like now she's red under the ground, we're not.

By doing that, it's RuPaul's music, I'm not Whitney, I, like they showed it, they showed a good portion of it, they didn't show the rest where they were really breaking it down. Thank you, Dex, yes, thank you, bye, which is what they say to Gia after Manila leaves. Her lipstick comes out of... Gia's tits get the cut that they send her home and it's a little sad, yes, but at the same time I think that Gia will do a lot with this platform that they have given her, she always does every stuff. The little reality show she has done has been a big step in her profile.

Wow, sorry guys, the level of unprofessionalism is not what I came here for. I think Gia has this really nice soft moment, though right at the end and with everything. that filler and it's and I can't talk about it, but I've never, I've never heard of filler, I don't even know what that is, but they called me one of your seventh Pearl Villa Queen, okay, right, um, but yeah. I guess I think we haven't seen the last of Gia Gunn, sure, but not outside, seeing her journey off screen is just as exciting and thrilling as seeing her on the show, so yeah, that's good, yeah, and for trip , me too.

I love traveling with her because she can shoot her mouth off and I love it, she can twist and rot and she's one of the funniest girls backstage at a show yeah so always have spray adhesive a good B ring she wants . I'll borrow you, yeah she's also the sole inventor of the whole drag language, it's like it's all supposed to be her and laganja, I mean that's ACOG, oh ho, Chicago, Dallas, Chicago, Texas and Florida invent the drag vernacular, yes, and gia is definitely included in there and she. she has a great line of tuck in panties that I've used and they're wonderful if you're listening to this and you get up at the concert check them out there's a little pocket for your balls and for drugs in there. also, oh oh, so if you're a biological queen or a female queen, just fill it with whatever you need, baking soda or cornstarch, to make the sauce cheesy, yeah, and we're so excited because we were able to get a phone interview exclusive with the one and only gia Gunn gyah can you hear us Gina?

It's so good to talk to you thank you for thank you for calling we're not live I mean it's pre-recorded but we're recording right now it will be recorded for quality control we're just here at the concert completely lash 301 well yeah mink skin of mine you should feel This beard, it's Christmas, Steve, where in the world are you? Oh, you're in Chicago. I did, we just wanted to, I mean, I just wanted to tell you how excited I was to see you on my TV again, of course, we saw you on the switch. I saw some little bits here and there, always killing and hello, yeah, don't forget to turn the switch down.

Lucchino mix Tina is available on iTunes honey Avila, but I was so excited that you were on this season and it was, um, it was really exciting to see you and you did well, how was your experience? Well, however, my experience was very interesting, it was definitely not what I expected it to be a fun reason and I think you know, I mean every drag racing experience and with Jim doing so many different things for so many different people and now As I'm out of the program I realize that I really work on them for one reason only. which really was not only to bring transmissibility to the program, but I hope that by participating, doors will be opened so that other types of drag queens can come through and, hopefully, be seen on our television screens, whether at the entrances of the houses or other places. platform that you know welcomes all walks of life and all types of drag, yeah, and now you know, obviously, it's a month later and the season itself and you know how things are developing.

I realized that putting myself in that situation, you know, brings up old memories for me and old, you know, doing laundry is an old feeling, obviously, it brings out a negative side of me just because the last time I was there I felt very uncomfortable, you know with myself, and I wasn't really living my truth and So being back there again and it just brought me back to that space and without really realizing, you know what I was getting myself into because I think everyone and I want to make the most of these opportunities and, you know, get back to television. and I hope you know how to expand your career and go further, go further, girl.

I mean, wow, and you went further than fara, so you did good, actually, girl, oh, I loved it, here it is, here's the other thing I know. I'm glad you went on the show too because you know it takes one for the team, first one is always, you never know what you're going to get and I'm glad you had a moment where you had some say about our past thoughts about having trans people on their show or I know they said they never cast anything other than charisma, nerve, uniqueness and talent, but I was like, um, their questions, the casting of the girls was a little, you know, what?

Did you have a chance to talk to her about any of those things? Well, I did and of course it didn't air and of course none of his run, you know, appeared in the episode itself, which was a little disappointing, but I knew damn well that none of that was going to happen. going on air because the show is not about making her look cool and you know, bringing positivity to the show, which I think you know, this episode really showed a different side of me and of course there's a whole story that I think, You know, it showed different sides of me, you know, a very witty, malicious and shady side, as well as a very, you know, emotional, vulnerable and truthful side that I'm very happy with you.

I know this because of believing contrary to what other people have to say. You know, I really had a hard time on the show just because I exchanged work with her and you know, before we got into the starter game, when these words were exchanged and I felt completely. ignored I didn't feel recognized I don't want you to know being there in the competition and honestly it really hurt my feelings. I had a big crisis between the series and I was like, you know, yes I am. I get this feeling from her and I don't feel very welcome, what am I doing here?

You know, it's like she spent a lot of money to go and participate in the show with high hopes of not only bringing my art to the show and also. You know, bringing trans visibility to the show, but also just to show her that you know I'm a fully realized woman. You know trans women can do drag too, but the most important thing is that I thought she would have been a little warmer. much more welcoming and I would have thought that we, RuPaul, are going to figure this out, of course, good luck and you know, I thought if we were going to bring someone on the show to basically, you know, clean up someone's mess and obviously , that.

It fell on me because once before she had made a statement that was completely opposite of what they did and I knew that by being elected she was going to continue there, she basically showed the world that the program, you know, quote unquote, you know . she supports trans people and she knows that trans people are drag queens, so for me to get there and you know we're going to be episode three, never make eye contact with her, never, you know, have any kind of acknowledgment of, oh, you already know. I've come this far or you know your journey has been so beautiful to see or something like that.

I just felt like I was really hurt and I was like, but do you know what the point of me coming here was if she wasn't coming? you know, walking and talking, so I had obvious thoughts of you know, quitting and just being like, well, I'm done with this, but I also didn't want to continue, you know, season six you know, the quitters. they gave. and you also know I didn't want people to see me as a dropout or for you to see this trans person and someone who was weak or couldn't make it to the competition because of what people were going to assume and think. because of what I was going through, knowing that this little part wasn't going to go to Erin, knowing that people want, I didn't know the back part, so some teams life in Astoria wasn't really going to make sense and I just wanted to get the best of me.

You know how little time I had there and I left on a positive note as these fans take this above all else and you know at that time I was too and you know, think about that if you know if that conversation was broadcast or whether there was Happened or not, I think the fact that you were there and you were being fierce and they picked you up, you're a girl, right? and that bracelet, that bracelet that dangles with all the rhinestones, okay, that's going to be a little trip. with very feminine fashion, you know, it was my idea to show this new side, you know, of me, which is a little more simplistic, a little more avant-garde and a little less drag, yes, but you know, when I was there I was inspired a lot in the other Queens to not have forgotten my roots and not to suggest that you know this was going to be shown about transgender people, this was going to be shown about you know anything but drag and I was there, you know, to bring drag. and being fierce and showing off, and even though I regret some of the things that I did where I'm not happy that I was able to put drag out there like you know RuPaul's Drag Race, I love that there was a section where every time Fair was ready to be eliminated, they made sure in the shot that you wereright over her shoulder so they could see your reaction and they were that story, they pushed that one and when she told you, when she turned around and said some of us don't have to force the story.

I'm like Farah, shut her mouth because, you know, the producers were like, go talk to her, you know, it seemed like they were pushing like some kind of big showdown on your part. It felt a little forced. Did you feel that way? Did you feel pressured? I wish I had something with her that you didn't need to have with her because she was drunk in a club one time or something, I mean. I really just want to clarify the situation that they believe it's Florida and long story short, before this building, everything I said was true, obviously we had a fight because of a third party, but to a large extent, this has happened.

It really came down to, you know, there wasn't even a problem between me and it was worth trying to save a relationship between me and someone else and it just caused, you know, there's animosity between us, a relationship since there was always been very popular in the city. and although you know I was down, the next time I saw her was in the work room, so I really had to hold on as well as I'm sure she did and I guess she could have done the quotes. mistake of making peace with her, you know, off camera, so we agreed that we were, you know, above that and that we were just there to compete, blah blah blah blah, but I Of course, I'm the content creator and you know. good television personality.

I was very clear about what the show wanted and you also know how I could create a story because I wasn't there to just be cooled down and I also knew that I wasn't brought there, you know, because I was a fierce drag queen instead, I knew I was brought there. there because of my personality, my charisma, you know, my cat, even my shame as my character, my television personality, how I do things, I place is more. about the drama of personalities, you know, of what real dress is like these days, so I think I took her by surprise by approaching her fiercely and not saying something like, hey girl, I know it's something you already know. , it's made up, but let's just play. "It makes the situation better not only because this is going to be great television, but she's also kind of the producer of the story that the show was asking for and I guess maybe she's Miller creating television or she never just did it." I didn't really understand it, so she was really shocked when I was stirring her pot like you knew I was walking up to her while she was putting on her makeup.

I guess I could have told him like you know there's a moment where Trinity and I are going to It was totally planned, it was like you know, okay, go, obviously, you're going to make a tape with others, yeah, I'll do it. You know who I'm going to do it with, but we're going to play because this is television, so you always understood it. Get it, I love you Gia, yeah, I love you so much too and you know that being there and sitting in that interview chair and being your authentic self and looking so beautiful and that's an inspiration to so many people that don't even you don't even know. about the young people who are going to see that like this is possible for me, this is something that I can pursue and I can do it like this, looking back, I have to realize that you know.

Even though in many episodes I feel like I deserve to be in them, it's still enough to give someone faith in the hope that they can make it too. You know his goals and you are who he wants to be, and you know you really aren't. live anything in life. I never think you should look back. I think you should always look forward and I want to look back and I knew you guys got the cakes from Jeremy Joseph's advice daughter. I love that there's You know, young people who take this show very seriously don't really understand how television works and they think this is who we really are in real life, so I hope people don't see this as, well, you know, she was.

She's supposed to blossom into this, you know, angelic, respectful, genuine young lady, and she didn't, and actually she's like you know the transition for the worse and the hormones have caught up with her, you know, any other assumption, you know people know you were always crazy before the moans. - we all know don't worry, we love you, no, I just like to think and know that my drag TV character and my trans activist, you know, her work as a public speaker are two very different people and I think I know one . I was baking some Oreos for those two people to get clarity in my life because you know drag created a lot of confusion for a moment for me because I didn't understand who I was during Dan who I was at night and now that I do it it's like I could turn it on and off, but some people don't let me see that difference, yeah, that's why they just don't know me that well, yeah, I love you, I love you a lot too and thank you. for talking to us it's great to hear your perspective and your side on this and I just want you to know that I enjoyed beyond watching you this season thank you.

I enjoy it too. You know there are a lot of bad questions right now. a lot of conformists I'm a social network with people, you know, we're trying to out me and call me a villain and honestly, I laugh at all of this and I just ride it out and enjoy the ride because I think that's why this was made and like I said before, You know, it's just TV, it's literally a show about stress on the farm, so let's not take it too seriously, you know, because I'm definitely not okay, we have to go, it was very nice, thank you. for taking the time to talk to us, seriously, why aren't there guys with their beer?

Thanks chica and we would really appreciate it gia so it was great talking to you and thank you so much for joining us here. At Race Chaser we will be back with our next episode and continue recapping the drag race. I'm Willem and I'm L. Ask around and you can rate our podcast and comment on how great it is if you don't like it. your business and subscribe to make sure you know when each and every episode drops. You'll love it in the one and only Alaska 5000 and our race hunter podcast is a group of three hunters on Instagram, so send us those memes we want, we all want. those mimi for Instagram stories, the Romani memes, all of them and we want new ones; are always welcome and don't forget to use the Race Chaser hashtag when you post and let's see some of these nudes.

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