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2020 New Hampshire Primary Results And Analysis | NBC News (Live Stream Recording)

Feb 18, 2020
AND MOST PEOPLE HAVE SAID IT'S FOUR TO FIVE MINUTES FROM START TO FINISH, WHICH IS A HUGE DIFFERENCE FROM YEARS PAST. I HAVE TO EMPHASIZE THAT THIS IS STILL IN THE TESTING PHASE AND IF YOU LOOK AT THESE TABLES BACK HERE THEY STILL HAVE A PAPER SYSTEM WHICH IS THE BACKUP, AND IS ACTUALLY GOING TO BE USED FOR THE OFFICIAL RECORD AND THE TESTING IS GOING VERY WELL AND IT CERTAINLY HAS SPREAD SPEED UP THE PROCESS FOR BOTH VOTERS AND WORKERS IN THE PAST WHO HAVE HAD TO DEAL WITH PRETTY GRUMPY PEOPLE WHO WANTED TO GET OUT OF HERE FASTER.
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IT LOOKS LIKE PEOPLE ARE MOVING, IT DOESN'T LOOK LIKE A LOT OF RETENTIONS. WHAT IS THE PARTICIPATION LIKE AND HOW HAVE THINGS BEEN THROUGHOUT THE DAY AS YOU HAVE BEEN THERE? YES. LET ME TALK ABOUT PARTICIPATION. AND LET ME PULL UP SOME NUMBERS HERE. UNTIL A FEW MINUTES AGO, 6,100 BALLOTS HAVE BEEN ISSUED. THAT'S NOT ACTUALLY COUNTING THE 326 RECENTLY REGISTERED VOTERS WHO HAVE ALSO CAST THEIR BALLOTS, AND IF YOU LOOK AT THIS TABLE HERE, THIS IS ANOTHER UNIQUELY NEW THING FROM HAMPSHIRE. IF YOU WALK THROUGH THESE DOORS TODAY AND ARE NOT REGISTERED, YOU CAN REGISTER TO VOTE, REGISTER AS A DEMOCRAT, REPUBLICAN OR UNDECLORED HERE AND GO HERE AND ACTUALLY CAST YOUR VOTE.
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JUST TO GIVE YOU THE CONTEXT OF THE PREVIOUS YEAR IN TERMS OF TURNOUT IN 2016. BY THE END OF THE NIGHT THERE WERE 10,000 BALLOTS CAST HERE BUT, REMEMBER, HERE WERE TWO CONFLICTING PRIMARIES, DEMOCRATS AND REPUBLICANS: THE LAST IN PICTURES THERE WAS A PRIMARY IN FUNCTION ELECTION, ONLY ABOUT 6100 VOTERS IN TOTAL AT THE END OF THE NIGHT VOTEED HERE, SO WE HAVE ALREADY PASSED LAST INcumbent ELECTION IN TERMS OF TURNOUT. LOOKS GREAT SO FAR IN LONDON DRY. I KNOW YOU HAVE BEEN TALKING TO THE VOTERS. WHO ARE THE CANDIDATES GETTING A LOT OF ATTENTION? WHO ARE THEY IN?
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WE TALK ABOUT A LOT WHEN IT COMES TO NEW HAMPSHIRE, A LOT OF OPEN VOTERS AND WE HAVE KNOWN H. MOST OF THE VOTERS I'VE TALKED TO, PETE BUTTIGIEG, AMY KLOBUCHAR, A LITTLE ANDREW YANG AND A LITTLE BEFORE BERNIE SANDERS . THIS IS NOT REALLY SANDERS COUNTRY, BUT A BIG NARRATIVE THAT HAS BEEN SURPRISING POLL WORKERS HERE IS HOW MANY REPUBLICAN BALLOTS ARE BEING CAST CONSIDERING DONALD TRUMP REALLY DOESN'T HAVE MUCH COMPETITION. RIGHT NOW IT IS ABOUT 60% DEMOCRATIC BALLOTS AND 40% REPUBLICAN BALLOTS WHICH IS, AGAIN, PRETTY, AND WHEN WE TALKED TO THE VOTERS WHO CAME HERE TO VOTE FOR TRUMP, THEY TOLD US THEY ARE HERE TO SHOW SUPPORT .
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A WOMAN TOLD ME THIS IS A PROTEST VOTE AGAINST THE IMPECTION AND REALLY THE VOTERS I HAVE BEEN TALKING TO ARE HERE TO COME OUT IN DEFENSE OF THE PRESIDENT AND SHOW THAT YES HE IS NOT IN A COMPETITIVE RACE BUT THEY WANT TO SHOW HIM THAT THE PEOPLE HERE IN NEW HAMPSHIRE SUPPORTED HIM AND HE HAS. HIS CAMPAIGN HAS A PRETTY SIGNIFICANT GROUND PLAY HERE IN NEW HAMPSHIRE AND MANCHESTER HAD A VERY BIG RALLY LAST NIGHT SO A LOT OF PEOPLE ENERGIZED BY THAT AND TO COME OUT HERE AND VOTE FOR PRESIDENT. STRONG SUPPORT THERE.
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR SHOWING US HOW THINGS ARE DOING A LITTLE DIFFERENT HERE. THANK YOU, ALISON. HE PARTED WITH MOST OF THE DELEGATES FROM IOWA, AND TONIGHT PETE BUTTIGIEG IS LOOKING FOR ANOTHER FIRST PLACE IN NEW HAMPSHIRE. NBC ROAD WARRIOR VAUGHAN HILLIARD IS WITH THE BUTTIGIEG CAMPAIGN. THERE ARE A FEW MORE HOURS BEFORE THE CLOSING OF THE POLLS. HOW DOES YOUR CAMPAIGN FEEL ABOUT THINGS TONIGHT? GOOD COTS. YOU HAVE MY HAND WARMER HERE AND THIS IS A CAMPAIGN THAT THINKS IT'S HEATING UP. AFTER THAT ESSENTIALLY A TIE IN IOWA JUST A WEEK AGO, HERE IN NEW HAMPSHIRE POLL EVIDENCE SHOWS THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR THE BUTTIGIEG CAMPAIGN TO CLAIM THE ABILITY TO WIN NOT JUST IN THE MIDWEST AND IOWA, BUT ELSE THERE, AND WHEN I SAY BEYOND, IN THE BACK YARD OF BERNIE SANDERS AND ELIZABETH WARREN, VERMONT AND MASSACHUSETTS RIGHT NEXT DOOR.
THAT IS WHY THIS CAMPAIGN SEES NEW HAMPSHIRE AS AN EXCELLENT OPPORTUNITY TO DO SO. TAKE INTO ACCOUNT FOUR YEARS AGO, BERNIE SANDERS WON NEW HAMPSHIRE BY 22 PERCENTAGE POINTS, ALISON, AND IN THIS CAMPAIGN, AT LEAST ACCORDING TO THE POLLS, YOU SHOW THEM HERE NECK AND NECK WITH BERNIE SANDERS. THE QUESTION IS JOE BIDEN, ELIZABETH WARREN AND THE BIG WILD IN THIS RACE HERE IN NEW HAMPSHIRE, AMY KLOBUCHAR, CUT THEIR SUPPORT. HE NEEDS A BIG TURNOUT HERE IN NEW HAMPSHIRE TO PUSH HIM ON AND MAKE THE CASE TO THE VOTERS IN NEVADA AND SOUTH CAROLINA AND THEN SUPER TUESDAY DECLARES HE IS A VIABLE CANDIDATE TO FACE DONALD TRUMP NEXT FALL.
YOU MENTION THE STATES HE IS LOOKING TOWARDS BEYOND NEW HAMPSHIRE. THE ISSUE IS MORE DIVERSE STATES AND BUTTIGIEG HAS BEEN STRUGGLING IN PARTICULAR WITH THE BLACK STATE. WHAT IS YOUR CAMPAIGN DOING AS THEY TRY TO PLAN FOR THE NEXT STATES AND DEALING WITH THAT PROBLEM? FIRST OF ALL, TAKE INTO ACCOUNT THIS CAMPAIGN LAUNCHED A YEAR AGO. MOST PEOPLE IN NEW HAMPSHIRE DID NOT KNOW WHO PETE BUTTIGIEG, THE MAYOR OF SOUTH BEND, INDIANA WAS, AND THAT IS WHY THEY SPEND A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF TIME, ENERGY AND RESOURCES IN IOWA AND IN NEW HAMPSHIRE BECAUSE THEY BELIEVE BEFORE THEY LEAP TOO FURTHER YOU HAVE TO VALIDATE YOUR CANDIDATURE IN THOSE FIRST STATES THAT YOU CAN AFFIRM THEY DID IN IOWA AND THEY EXPECT TO DO TONIGHT.
THE CAMPAIGN SAYS, YOU KNOW, TO SUPPORT YOU TO A CERTAIN DEGREE, WHEN YOU TALK TO VOTERS AND OTHER STATES, YOU CONSTANTLY HEAR ABOUT THE WISH TO BEAT DONALD TRUMP. BUTTIGIEG'S CAMPAIGN MAINTAINS THAT COMMUNITIES OF COLOR HAVE MORE TO LEARN UNDER A SECOND TERM OF THE TRUMP ADMINISTRATION, AND BELIEVE THAT ONCE VOTERS REALIZE, WHITE AND NON-WHITE VOTERS, THAT PETE BUTTIGIEG IS A LEGITIMATE CANDIDATE THAT HE COULD BEAT DONALD TRUMP, THEY WILL START TAKING HIM MORE SERIOUSLY. THAT'S WHY JOE BIDEN WAS POLLING SO GOOD, SPECIFICALLY AMONG OLDER BLACK VOTERS, BUT WHAT YOU SAW YESTERDAY, QUINNIPIAC RELEASED A NATIONAL POLL OF NATIONWIDE SUPPORT AMONG BLACK VOTERS AND SUPPORT FOR JOE BIDEN HAS SLOWLY DECLINED.
MICHAEL BLOOMBERG IS SEEN TO HAVE MADE A SIGNIFICANT ADVERTISING BUY IN MANY OF THESE STATES TO GET HIS NAME. It went up to 22%. PETE BUTTIGIEG WAS ONLY IN THE 4% AND THE OCAL POLL SHOWS HIM IN THE 8% AND THIS IS WHERE THE BIG OBSTACLE WAS, SO IF EVERYONE MAKES A WIN HERE TONIGHT, HE STILL HAS A LOT TO PROVE OVER THE NEXT TWO WEEKS. I IMAGINE THEY WILL TAKE IT ONE PRIMARY AT A TIME. THANK YOU SO MUCH. SENATOR ELIZABETH WARREN FIGHTING AN UPHILL BATTLE IN NEW HAMPSHIRE. TOMORROW'S LATEST NATIONAL POLL HAS WARREN IN THIRD PLACE TIE WITH PETE BUTTIGIEG WHO IS THERE WITH 13%.
NBC ROAD WARRIOR ALLY VITALY JOINS US LIVE. A WIN AT NEW HAMPSHIRE COULD GIVE HER A GOOD BOOST OR PUT YOU CLOSER TO THE LEAD AND A DISAPPOINTING FINISH THAT LEAVES HER HIGHER IN THE POLLS. HOW DO THE CAMPAIGNS FEEL ABOUT THE SENATOR'S POSITION IN THIS RACE IN NEW HAMPSHIRE TONIGHT? WELL, ALISON. TONIGHT THEY HAVE ALWAYS LOWERED EXPECTATIONS AND COME OUT WITH A NEW CAMPAIGN MANAGER ROGER LAU WHO PUT ALL THE THREADS I HAVE BEEN REPORTING THIS YEAR IN ONE PLACE AND HOPE THIS IS AN UNREMEMBER PRIMARY AND NO CLEAR OUT OF IOWA AND THEY HOPE THAT OUTSIDE OF NEW HAMPSHIRE THEIR PLAN IS TO CONTINUE WITH THE SCHEDULE AND CONTINUE TO BUILD COALITIONS AND CONTINUE, OF COURSE, TO GET DELEGATES.
THAT IS VERY IMPORTANT, BUT THIS MEMORANDUM DOES SOMETHING ELSE, SOMETHING THAT THE CANDIDATE HAS HERSELF RESISTED IN THE CAMPAIGN, WHICH IS GOING AFTER HER ADVERSARY. ONE OF THE THINGS ROG RECALLS POINTS OUT IN THIS MEMO IS THAT HE THINKS BERNIE SANDERS IN NEW HAMPSHIRE WILL NOT GET EVEN THE AMOUNT OF SUPPORT HE GOT IN 2016 IN PART BECAUSE THE ELECTORATE HAS CHANGED AND THERE ARE MORE CANDIDATES TO CHOOSE FROM AND HE ALSO ARGUES IN THIS MEMO THAT SANDERS' RECORD HAS NOT BEEN SUFFICIENTLY EXAMINED AND ABOUT PETE BOURGET GOING AFTER HIS SEARCH IN SOUTH BEND, FOR BLACK VOTERS AND FOR BIDEN, THE SAME, SUB-WHO HAS BEEN MAKING AN ARGUMENT FOR UNITY BUT SHE HAS TO BEGIN TO DIFFERENTIATE YOURSELF.
THE TOP LINE COMING OUT OF TONIGHT RATS IS THE ONLY CAMPAIGN THAT IS PUSHING BEYOND T. SAYING WEST IN THIS FOR THE LONG HAM. NOWHERE IN THIS MEMORY ARE THEY LAYING OUT THE MEMORY. HERE WE ARE GOING TO WIN. I HARD TO BELIEVE YOU CAN WALK INTO THE CONVENTION WITH A TON OF DELEGATES WITHOUT WINNING A STATE AT ALL. THAT SEEMS LIKE A PRACTICAL POINT. I KNOW YOU TALKED TO THE SENATOR TODAY BEFORE THE MEMO CAME OUT. WHAT ARE THE EXPECTATIONS AND WHAT DID HE TELL YOU? I THINK SHE IS PLAYING HERSELF. I'LL LET YOU TELL YOU WHAT HE SAID TO ME WHILE I WAS VISITING SOME POLLING PLACES HERE IN NEW HAMPSHIRE EARLY TODAY.
HOW DO YOU THINK YOU'RE GOING TO DO HERE TODAY? THINK YOU WILL PROVE THE POLLS WRONG? FOR ME IT HAS NEVER BEEN ABOUT SURVEYS. IT IS ABOUT PEOPLE AND PEOPLE WHO UNDERSTAND THAT THIS IS OUR MOMENT IN HISTORY. IT IS OUR TIME TO GO AHEAD AND MAKE A DECISION, WHAT KIND OF COUNTRY WE ARE GOING TO BE. IS YOUR CAMPAIGN PLAN TO GO DOWN THE CALENDAR, NEVADA AND SOUTH CAROLINA AND DEFINITELY SUPER TUESDAY? ARE YOU IN THIS CAMPAIGN FOR SO LONG? WE BUILT A CAMPAIGN TO LAST AND WE ARE NOW IN 30 STATES. REMEMBER, WHEN I MADE THE DECISION EARLY NOT TO SPEND 80% OF MY TIME ASPIRING BILLIONAIRES AND CORPORATE EXECUTIVES AND LOBBYERS AND INSTEAD MY CAMPAIGN THROUGH GROOTS GAVE ME MORE TIME TO DO TOWN HALLS AND I HAVE DONE HALLS IN 29 STATES AND PUERTO RICO AND THAT HAS HELPED OPEN OFFICES AND BRING VOLUNTEERS.
THEIR WORDS SAYING THEY BUILT THIS CAMPAIGN TO LAST. I MENTIONED HOW FAR ON THE CALENDAR THEY ARE BUILT IN TERMS OF THEIR ORGANIZING STAFF, BUT HAVING 1,000 EMPLOYEES HAS AN INCONVENIENT SIDE IT MEANS YOU ARE BURDEN WITH A LOT OF GOVERNMENT AND YOU HAVE TO PAY THOSE PEOPLE AND BEING THIRD OR POTENTIALLY LOWEST IN NEW HAMPSHIRE IT IS HARDER TO BE IN THE MEDIA CYCLE AND HARDER TO CONTINUOUSLY GET SUPPORT FROM THE ROOTS DRIVING ELIZABETH WARREN'S CAMPAIGN. THE NUMBER I'M REALLY LOOKING FOR OF THIS IS NOT NECESSARILY EVEN IN THE SURVEYS OF IOWA, NEW HAMPSHIRE AND NEVADA, IT IS WHAT THE S.E.C.
THE ARCHIVES SAY AND IF ELIZABETH WARREN HAS MONEY TO STAY AT THE COMPANY. ONE MORE QUESTION BEFORE I LET YOU GO. YOU HAVE BEEN TALKING ABOUT HOW MASSACHUSETTS AND VERMONT ARE JUST BUYING NEW HAMPSHIRE. IS THERE REALLY A HOME FIELD ADVANTAGE OR IS IT JUST A TV TALKING POINT WE KEEP ABOUT? WE WILL SEE. BRERNDS HAS MORE THAN A HOME FIELD ADVANTAGE. HE HAS THE 2016 LEAD, THE DEFENDING CHAMPION SO SPEAKS IN THIS TERRITORY, BUT THAT SAID, THIS IS NOT 2016. NOT A BIPRY RACE BETWEEN BERNIE SANDERS AND SOMEONE ELSE. IT HAS A LOT OF OTHER COMPETITION HERE ON GROUND AND AS FOR ELIZABETH WARREN'S NEIGHBOR STATE, YES, IT'S A NAME PEOPLE HAVE BEEN HEARING ON GROUND HERE FOR A LONG TIME.
EVERYONE WHO HAS TRAVELED AROUND THE STATE THE LAST DAYS AND WEEKS, PEOPLE SAY WHEN THEY TALK ABOUT HIS 2012 SENATE RUN AGAINST SCOTT BROWN, THAT'S ONE THEY REMEMBER FROM THE DOCS AND THAT HE WAS ON TV AT THAT MOMENT. IT WAS A HOT RUN SHE WOULD DO. YES, WINNING A REPUBLICAN IN HEADLINE. THAT SAID, REESE'S MAJOR RENT RACE FOR SENATE IN 2018 DID NOT RUN ANY TV ADVERTISEMENTS. SHE ACCUMULATED ALL OF THAT MONEY AND EVENTUALLY MOVED IT FROM HER OLD CAMPAIGN ACCOUNT TO HER OWN PRESIDENTIAL ACCOUNT, GIVING HER A $10 MILLION KICKBACK TO START THIS CAREER. IT MIGHT HAVE BEEN A SMART PLAY, BUT SHE HAS NOT BEEN A UBIQUITOUS PRESENCE IN NEW HAMPSHIRE.
THANK YOU SO MUCH. THE FIRST EXIT POLL FOR THE NEW HAMPSHIRE PRIMARY IS OUT AND STEVE KORNACKI JUST PARTICIPATED WITH MY COLLEAGUE CHUCK TODD. WE CAN GIVE YOU A FEEL OF WHAT THE EXIT POLL TELLS US OF THE MAKEUP OF THIS ELECTORATE IN NEW HAMPSHIRE, AND AGAIN, KEEP IN MIND WE SHOW YOU THIS AT 5:00 AM. IT IS THE FIRST WAVE. THEY ARE GOING TO ADD MORE SAMPLES TO THIS SO THESE NUMBERS MAY CHANGE AS THE NIGHT PROGRESSES. WITH THAT IN MIND, LOOK AT A COUPLE OF GROUPS. FIRST OF ALL, WHAT IS THE AGE BREAKDOWN? WE HAVE TALKED ABOUT THE AGE DIFFERENCES IN THIS RACE IN TERMS OF VOTERS HAVE MADE A DIFFERENCE AND LOOK AT THIS.
TWO GROUPS YOU CAN CALL YOUR EYES ON HERE, THE TWO GUYS OF EXTREME EXTREME. 33% IN THIS POLL GOING OUT IN NEW HAMPSHIRE TODAY, ONE OF THREE, 65 OVER AND GOING TO THE OTHER END THERE, 11% IN THE YOUNGER CATEGORY. WOW! 18 A. IS THAT LOW FOR YOU? IT'S A SURPRISE FOR TWO REASONS, CHUCK. KEEP IN MIND WHAT WE SAW IN IOWA LAST WEEK. YOU SAW ONE QUARTER IN IOWA I WAS IN THE YOUNGEST CATEGORY AND ONLY 27%, BUT I THINK THE BIGGEST SURPRISE TO ME IS TO COMPARE THESE NUMBERS TO WHAT NEW HAMPSHIRE HAD IN 2016, LAST TIME, RIGHT. AMONG PEOPLE AGED 18-29 IN 2016 THE NUMBER WAS 19%, AND AMONG THOSE AGE 65+ THE NUMBER WAS 18% IN 2016, SO THIS IS A SIGNIFICANT CHANGE.
QVC, REMEMBER, WE HAVE TALKED ABOUT THIS CAMPAIGN AND SANDERS DOES GOOD WITH SANDERS VOTERS AND THIS IS WHERE I WARN EVERYONE THAT MORE POLLS WILL BE ADDED TO THIS. THAT IS A VERY DIFFERENT ELECTORATE IN TERMS OF THE OBJECTIVE YOU HAD AT AGE AND EXTENDING THAT TO IDEOLOGY AND WITH THOSE AGED 18 TO 29 YOU ARE ACHIEVING SOMETHING VERY LESS LIBERAL THAN IN 2016, A CHANGE. THAT'S A CHANGE FROM IOWA WITH 25% VERY LIBERAL IN IOWA AND TONIGHT IN THIS POLL EXIT 21%. ANOTHER THING THAT MAY BE A FACTOR HERE, REMEMBER, NEW HAMPSHIRE, IF YOU ARE A FREELANCE IN NEW HAMPSHIRE, CAN YOU APPLY?
CAN SAYHEY I WANT A DEMOCRATIC BALLOT. I WANT A REPUBLICAN BALANCED BUDGET AMENDMENT THAT YOU CAN CHOOSE. WELL, LOOK AT WHAT THEY ARE TELLING US ABOUT THE IDENTITY OF THE PARTY. 53% OF THIS ELECTORATE TODAY ARE DEMOCRATIC VOTERS. 45% INDEPENDENT. WHAT WAS THAT IN 2016? 2% -- THAT NUMBER IN 2016 WAS 40 AND THIS NUMBER WAS 58, SO YOU HAD A CLASS OF CORE DEMOCRATIC ELECTORATE IN 2016 WHEN SANDERS WON BY THAT BIG MARGIN. YOU HAVE MORE PEOPLE WHO ARE INDEPENDENT IN HAM MANY HAD A. MAYBE THEY VOTED IN THAT REPUBLICAN PRIMARY IN 2016 AND MAYBE THEY WOULD NORMALLY VOTE IN A REPUBLICAN PRIMARY. YOU HAVE MORE INDEPENDENTS, YOU HAVE OLDER AND LESS VERY LIBERAL AND THAT IS THE FIRST THING WE ARE SEEING.
MORE NEW HAMPSHIRE COVERAGE HERE ON "NBC NEWS NOW" AFTER THE BREAK. YOU ARE WATCHING "NBC NEWS NOW". WE HAVE SOME BREAKING NEWS. BROUGHT MORE TO THE CAUCUSES. THESE ARE NEWS MADE FOR YOUR STREAMING WORLD. LIVE, WEEKDAYS 3:00 TO 11:00 P.M. ORIENTAL . WHITE TERRORISM AND WHITE SUPREMACIST TERRORISM IN THIS COUNTRY IS NOT A STRANGE ANALOGUE TO AL QAEDA OR ISIS. IT IS NOT SOMETHING FOREIGN THAT LOOKS LIKE SOMETHING WE HAVE BEEN FIGHTING WITH IN THE WAR ON TERROR. IN REALITY, IT IS FUNDAMENTALLY AS AMERICAN AS ANYTHING, AND IS AN EXISTENTIAL ISSUE TO THE OPEN, EQUAL, PLURALIST, MULTI-RACIAL DEMOCRACY WE HAVE BEEN FIGHTING FOR IN THIS COUNTRY SINCE PEOPLE DIED ON THE BATTLEFIELD IN A CIVIL WAR.
LET'S START WITH SOMETHING DIFFERENT TONIGHT. THIS IS ONE OF THOSE THINGS YOU MAY NOT OTHERWISE HEAR ON THE NEWS, BUT GO ON WITH MOW. FEED YOUR MIND WITH A FRESH PERSPECTIVE. She gets HER FAVORITE MSNBC SHOWS NOW ON PODCAST. IS IT FINDING CLARITY IN CHAOS OR UNDERSTANDING THE STORY OF THE MOMENT? A VERY BIG BUSINESS TO GET BAGHDADI, A TRIBUTE TO US INTELLIGENCE AND SPECIAL FORCES IS TO KEEP EVERYONE TO THE SAME STANDARDS, AND IF IT'S SUNDAY. YOU ARE WATCHING THE NBC NEWS NOW. BROUGHT MORE TO THE EDS CAUCUS. NEWS MADE FOR YOUR STROIMG WELL. LIVE, WEEKDAYS FROM 3:00 TO 11:00 EST.
AN INSIDE TAKE ON POLITICS AND MORE WITH SOME OF MY FAVORITE REPORTERS. GET THE CHUCK TODD PODCAST FOR FREE. DO YOU NEED YOUR TRUE SOLUTION TO CRIME IN PROGRESS? DATE I'M EPISODES ARE AVAILABLE AS PODCASTS, MYSTERIES WITH A TWIST FROM THE TROW CRIME ORIGINAL. WOW. LISTEN TO "DATELINE" WHEREVER YOU GET YOUR PODCASTS. WE HAVE THE FUNDAMENTAL OF HUMAN BEINGS AND WE HAVE THE WAY WE CONSTITUTE OUR POLITICS AND THE DANGER IS THAT IF OUR POLITICS GETS TOO TRIBAL, THEN WE WILL LOSE WAY OF SPEAKING. WHY IS THIS HAPPENING WITH CHRIS HAYES? SUBSCRIBE NOW. SENATOR BERNIE SANDERS HAS MOVED TO FIRST IN A NEW NATIONAL BOCA UNIVERSITY SURVEY TODAY PUT SANDERS AT THE TOP WITH 26%, JOE BIDEN DOWN TO SECOND WITH 16% AND SENATOR ELIZABETH WARREN AND PETE BUTTIGIEG SHARE THIRD WITH THE % THROWN EACH AND NBC HAS OVER MANCHESTER, NEW HAMPSHIRE AND SENATOR SANDERS TO FIRST IN THIS NEW POLL.
HOW DOES IT FEEL? YES, YOU ARE RIGHT. I TALKED TO HIM TODAY. HE HIM - IT'S AN ELECTION DAY AND GENERALLY HE FEELS ABOUT HOW IT'S COMING NOT THIS ARE A. FIRST, POEM IS INJURED AND HE'S ESSENTIALLY CAMPAIGNING HERE FOR FIVE YEARS AND LOOK AT THE POLLS. ENTERING THIS HAS AND HIS LOGO EXCEEDS THE GYP SEA OF ERROR AND STILL IN A GOOD POSITION. ALL OF THAT PRESENTS A RISK TO SENATOR SANDERS. I SAID IF HE DOESN'T WIN HERE, WHAT DOES THAT MEAN FOR THE REVOLUTION, PER SAY OR THE MOVEMENT HE CALLS FOR, THE IDEA THAT HE CAN TAKE PART AND OWES ELECTABILITY AND EMOTION TO THIS PRIMARY?
LISTEN TO WHAT HE TOLD ME. I BELIEVE WE ARE THE STRONGEST CANDIDATE THAT CAN BEAT TRUMP, AMEND THE REASON FOR THAT IS TO DEFEAT TRUMP, WHICH IS GOING TO BE A VERY DIFFICULT OPPONENT. WE NEED THE HIGHEST VOTER TURNOUT IN US HISTORY. OUR CAMPAIGN IS THE CAMPAIGN AND THE ENERGY AND EMOTION I CREATE. IT IS THE CAMPAIGN THAT CAN SPEAK TO DISENGAGE WORKING PEOPLE WHO HAVE QUIT OUT OF THE VOTING PROCESS AND THE CAMPAIGN THAT CAN SPEAK TO LANG, BLACK, WHITE AND LATINO, AMERICAN INDIAN PEOPLE WHO HAVE NOT HISTORICALLY BEEN AS ACTIVE IN THE POLITICAL PROCESS AS THEY SHOULD.
WE ARE THE CAMPAIGN TO GET THAT VOTER PARTICIPATION OUT AND THE CAMPAIGN TO DEFEAT TRUMP. SOMETHING WE WILL BE WATCHING TONIGHT IS VOTER TURNOUT. IT WAS IN IOWA WHEN HE SAID THAT HISTORICAL PARTICIPATION. IF HE GOT A HISTORICAL SHARE IN IOWA, HE WOULD WIN. DID NOT GET THIS PARTICIPATION ORRIC AND WON THE POPULAR VOTE AND LOST IN THE DELEGATE IMPECTION AT LEAST FROM WHAT WE KNOW. YOU HAVE TO ODD ON ALL THE WARNINGS IN. SURE YES. BUT SOMETHING WE WILL CONTINUE TO WATCH IN NEW HAMPSHIRE IS WHAT IS THE VOTER TURNOUT? DO YOU KEEP BRINGING YOUNG PEOPLE AND THEY STILL SHOW UP AND THAT MOVEMENT, THAT EMOTION THAT YOU SAY YOU CAN BRING, WILL IT BE REFLECTED TONIGHT WHILE WE SEE THE RESULTS?
ALISON? I KNOW YOU TALKED TO BERNIE ABOUT PETE BUTTIGIEG THAT THEY HAVE BECOME REAL RIVALS SINCE LEAVING IOWA LAST WEEK NECK AND NECK. WHAT DID YOU ASK? RIGHT AFTER IOWA, THEY ESSENTIALLY LEFT IOWA IN A TIE AND YOU SAW SENATOR SANDERS SWITCH HIS ATTENTION FROM JOE BIDEN AND SHIFT IT TO MAYOR PETE BUTTIGIEG, AND YOU SEE WHY. YOU SAW A SENSE OF WHY BASED ON THE SURVEY. IN THE AVERAGE OF THE POLLS, SANDERS HAD THAT LEADERSHIP COMING IN TO NEW HAMPSHIRE BUT THE RIVAL BEHIND HIM WAS PETE BUYING AND THE ARGUMENT SENATOR SANDERS WAS MAKING IS THAT MAYOR PETE HAS BEEN RECEIVING BILLION AIR DONATIONS AND DONATIONS - - READING HEADLINES AT AN EVENT, MAYOR PETE IS A BILLION AIRS FAVORITE OR HAS RECEIVED DONATIONS FROM 40 DIFFERENT BILLIONAIRES, SO HE IS MAKING THAT POINT AND THAT ARGUMENT.
IN THAT ANSWER, MAYOR PETE HAS BEEN SAYING, HEY, IT DOESN'T MATTER IF I GET MONEY FROM IT AND ALSO MAKES THE COUNTER-ARGUMENT TO BERNIE SANDERS, WHICH FORCES PEOPLE BETWEEN KEEPING THE STATUS QUO AND HAVING A STATEWIDE REVOLUTION. I ASKED SENATOR SANDERS WHETHER HE WAS WRONG ABOUT THAT OR NOT AND HEARD THAT ANSWER. I AM VERY PROUD OF MY RECORD OF ACHIEVEMENT AS A RESULT OF SOME OF THE WORK THAT HAS BEEN DONE BY OUR CAMPAIGN. WE HAVE SEEN THE MINIMUM WAGE RISE TO $15 AN HOUR THROUGHOUT THIS COUNTRY. WE PUMP BILLIONS AND BILLIONS INTO THIS COUNTRY AND I HELPED WITH JOHN MKAUGHAN TO WRITE ONE OF THE MOST SIGNIFICANT PIECE OF LEGISLATION FOR VETERANS IN THE MODERN HISTORY OF THIS COUNTRY.
AND I THINK ABOUT THE AGENDA WE ARE BRINGING. THIS IS NOT -- I GET TIRED OF PEOPLE TELLING ME THIS IS A RADICAL AGENDA. IT IS NOT A RADICAL AGENDA. EVERY OTHER MAJOR COUNTRY ON EARTH HAS HEALTH CARE. YOU ARE 100, 200 MILES FROM CANADIAN POWERED. SOMEHOW THEY MANAGED TO PROVIDE QUALITY CARE TO ALL THEIR PEOPLE FOR HALF THE COST OF US, NOT RADICAL. AND THAT LAST POINT YOU HEARD WAS PART OF YOUR CLOSING MESSAGE HERE IN NEW HAMPSHIRE H. BECAUSE YOU WON HERE. HE OPENED A LOT OF STATEMENTS AND A LOT OF SPEECHES AND TOWN HALLS AND EVENTS HERE IN NEW HAMPSHIRE BY SAYING I WANT TO THANK THE PEOPLE OF NEW HAMPSHIRE FOR THE WIN THEY GOT ME IN IN 2016 AND GAVE THEM MOMENTUM ON THAT.
IT WAS A 22-POINT WIN AND THE IDEAS I TALKED ABOUT AT THE TIME, IDEAS LIKE MEDICARE FOR EVERYONE. LIKE A MINIMUM WAGE OF $15, IDEAS LIKE INVESTING IN CLIMATE CHANGE AND CLEAN RENEWABLE ENERGY. IS HE NOW SAYING THAT THEY ARE ADOPTED BY THE MAJORITY OF THE DEMOCRATIC PEOPLE TODAY. HE IS SAYING: YOU ARE NOT MOVING, BUT YOU ARE JOINING THINGS. THE SECOND THE RESULTS ARE IN TONIGHT, IS THE SANDERS CAMPAIGN OUT OF TOWN? TALLEY WE ARE GOING TO SEE HIM IN THE CONTEXT OF IMPEACHING, BUT HE WILL BE BACK IN WASHINGTON, D.C. DUE TO THE RESOLUTION OF WAR POWERS HE HAS BEEN ELECTED.
THIS IS A LARGE PART OF SENATOR SANDERS' PLATFORM. THE ELEMENT OF FOREIGN POLICY IS SUCH A STLAL PART OF HIM, THE NON-INKRONKSAL ELF: HE WILL GO BACK TO WASSY AND VOTE TO OWECEPTIONLY LIMIT PRESIDENT TRUMP'S ABILITY TO START MILITARY ACTION WITH IRAN. IT IS STILL UNCLEAR WHERE IT WILL LAND AND WHAT KIND OF SUPPORT IT CAN GET ON THE SIDE OF THE AISLE AND IN THE DEMOCRATIC MINORITY IN THE SENATE THERE ARE MANY TIMES WHEN THEY CANNOT GET VOTES ON THEIR SIGNATURE OR KEY PRIORITIES BUT THIS IS AN EXAMPLE BY LAW OF WAR POWERS WHERE THEY WILL BE ABLE TO SPEAK.
THEY MAY APPROVE A RESOLUTION. WE HAVE SEEN THIS DONE BEFORE DEALING WITH YEMEN, AND WILL DO IT WITH IRAN AT THIS POINT. GET INTO THAT IDEA THAT PRESIDENT TRUMP CAN STILL VETO THIS RESOLUTION. IT'S HIM MAKING HIS MARKER. LATER THIS WEEK HE WILL LEAVE FROM WASHINGTON, D.C. TO NORTH CAROLINA AND TEXAS. YOU MAY WONDER WHY. THOSE ARE NOT THE NEXT TWO STATES ON THE CALENDAR. IT'S GOING TO SUPER TUESDAY. THEIR CAMPAIGN SENDS THE MESSAGE THAT THEY ARE LOOKING BEYOND THE CALENDAR. THERE IS A DEBATE IN NEVADA NEXT WEEK. EVENTUALLY WE MAKE IT THERE. THEN SOUTH CAROLINA.
VICE PRESIDENT BIDEN HAS A STRONG ADVANTAGE RIGHT NOW. WHERE IS THE VICE PRESIDENT HEADING TONIGHT? WILL NOT STAY HERE FOR RESULTS TO COME IN NEW HAMPSHIRE. SANDERS' CAMPAIGN SAYS THEY HAVE INVESTED ITS RESOURCES, $5.5 MILLION, IN TV ADVERTISEMENTS. NOW THEY ARE GOING TO START INVESTING THE TIME OF THE CANDIDATES IN GOING TO THESE PLACES AND THAT THEY ARE STARTING TO MAKE THOSE STOPS EVEN THOUGH THOSE CONTESTS ARE A COUPLE OF WEEKS AWAY. THANKS FOR THE UPDATE ON SANDERS' CAMPAIGN AND REMINDER THAT SEVERAL OF THESE CANDIDATES ARE NOT JUST CAMPAIGNING FOR A LIVING. THEY HAVE DAY JOBS THEY HAVE TO GO BACK TO.
SENATOR SANDERS HAS TO RETURN TO WASHINGTON, D.C. THANK YOU SO MUCH. ALL GOOD. SEE YOU. NEW HAMPSHIRE VOTERS ARE AT THE POLLS RIGHT NOW. WHO WILL BE THE WINNER TONIGHT? BRING ON NBC NEWS SENIOR POLITICAL ANALYST JONATHAN ALLEN. WE HAVE TO START WITH SOMETHING YOU DID ON TWITTER AN HOUR AGO. YOU MADE AN UNSCIENTIFIC PREDICTION, YOU SAY AMY KLOBUCHAR WINS TONIGHT. BECAUSE? WAIT, I'M NOT SURE I... ALISON, I DID NOT MEAN THAT. I DID NOT MEAN TO PUT IT LIKE THAT. WHICH I WAS SAYING, I THOUGHT AMY KLOBUCHAR COULD DO RIGHT, A LITTLE BETTER THAN EXPECTED.
WHAT HE WAS SAYING BASED ON GARRETT HAAKE'S TWIT THERE, ONE OF OUR COLLEAGUES: WAS IN A MANCHESTER POLLING CENTER. I SPOKE TO TEN VOTERS WHO SAID THEY VOTEED FOR HILLARY CLINTON. THERE WAS A REPUBLICAN PRIMARY, A DEMOCRATIC PRIMARY. TEN IN A ROW CLINTON SAID. I REMEMBER CALLING A FRIEND OF MINE WHO DID A GOOD JOB OF DATA. I SAID I SHOULD NOT TRUST THIS ANECDOTAL ADVICE, SHOULD I? SO IT WAS MY MEMORY. I HAVE A SENSE TALKING TO THE VOTERS, MANY OF THEM WRITED KLOBUCHAR AT THE END. YOU TOO -- I DON'T THINK SHE WILL WIN.
ARE YOU SEEING STRONG SIMILARITIES THAT SHE DOES WELL TONIGHT? YES I THINK IT'S LIKELY TO DO WELL. THE REAL THING TO SEE HERE, ALISON, IS WHETHER THERE IS ENOUGH ENERGY BEHIND YOUR CAMPAIGN THAT IS DRAGGING PETE BUTTIGIEG WITH IT. YOU KNOW, I WAS RUNNING CLOSE TO BERNIE SANDERS COMING OUT OF IOWA IN TERMS OF THE NEW HAMPSHIRE VOTE, AND THERE ARE A LOT OF VOTERS DIVIDED BETWEEN BUTTIGIEG AND KLOBUCHAR. IF THEY DIVIDE THOSE VOTERS, THEY ARE NOT GOING TO BUTTIGIEG OR KLOBUCHAR, THAT IS HELPFUL FOR BERNIE SANDERS. ALL GOOD. BEING VERY CLEAR TONIGHT, JOHN. I DID NOT WANT TO CHARACTERIZE YOU BAD.
JOHN DOES NOT PREDICT A KLOBUCHAR WIN. YOU SAID SOMETHING INTERESTING ABOUT HER ON MSNBC.COM. YOU SAID THAT THE CANDIDATES ARE ARGUING THAT THEY CAN UNIFY THEIR PARTY, BUT YOU SAID THAT KLOBUCHAR HAS THE MOST IMPRESSIVE STORY ABOUT THE UNIFICATION OF THE COUNTRY AND IS NOT EVEN USING IT. WHAT IS THAT STORY SHE ISN'T TAKING ADVANTAGE OF? I SAID THAT. WE HAVE ONE HERE. TOTALLY GOT IT. DID YOU KNOW? YOU WERE RIGHT. YOU ARE COMPLETELY RIGHT IN THE FEELING OF THE FIRST. I DO THINK THERE IS A LOT OF MOMENTUM BEHIND AMY KLOBUCHAR HERE. BUT WHAT SHE DIDN'T DO -- SHE DIDN'T REALLY COME OUT HERE HAS A DEMOCRATIC PARTY IN MINNESOTA CALLED THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY OF FARM WORKERS AND IT'S PROBABLY AS DIVERSE A PARTY IN TERMS OF TYPES OF DEMOCRATS THAT YOU HAVE AS ANY PARTY IN THE COUNTRY.
WHEN ALL THESE DEMOCRATS RUN FOR PRESIDENT OR TRY TO SAY THEY CAN UNIFY THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY, SHE IS NOMINATED BY THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY WHICH HAS FARMERS LIVING ALONG THE DAKOTAS BORDER WHO HAS A GREAT UNION PRESIDENT ALONG THEM LONG SUPERIOR LAKE AND DULUTH WHICH HAS A DIVERSE POPULATION IN TERMS OF ETHNICITY, IN TERMS OF RACE, IN TERMS OF INCOME IN THE TWIN CITIES AREA, IN THE CITIES OF MINNEAPOLIS AND ST. PAUL AND THE SURROUNDING SUBURBS THERE. THE MINNESOTA DEMOCRATIC PARTY IS VERY, VERY DIVERSE. YOU CAN SEE IT IN THE CONGRESS DELEGATION. COLIN PETERSON Jr. WAS ONE OF THE DEMOCRATS WHO VOTED AGAINST THE IMPECTION.
SO KLOBUCHAR KNOWS SOMETHING ABOUT BALANCING A VERY BROAD DEMOCRATIC PARTY IN HIS OWN STATE. I HOPE THAT IS SOMETHING WE WILL SEE AHEAD. LET ME ASK YOU ABOUT JOE BIDEN. HIS CAMPAIGN IS RECEIVING DOWNLOADS FOR HEADING TO SOUTH CAROLINA TONIGHT BEFORE GETTING RESULTS FROM NEW HAMPSHIRE. I WOULD LIKE TO PLAY A BIDEN CLIP BEFORE. I HAVE A LOT OF GOOD FRIENDS IN NEW HAMPSHIRE, BUT THIS -- SO YOU HAVE SIGNIFICANT PORTIONS THAT HAVE NOT YET VOTEED. TONIGHT I'M GOING TO SOUTH CAROLINA AND THEN I'M GOING TO NEVADA. WE HAVE TO LOOK AT THEM ALL. I FEEL GOOD WITH THAT.
WE HAVE MANY GREAT FRIENDS HERE. WE STILL HAVE A LITTLE HOPE HERE IN NEW HAMPSHIRE AND WE WILL SEE WHAT HAPPENS. SLIGHTLY HOPE IN NEW HAMPSHIRE BUT DIRECTED TO SOUTH CAROLINA. WHAT DO YOU THINK OF THAT MOVEMENT, JOHN? I THINK BIDEN HAS BEEN TRYING TO CONVINCE BOTH THE VOTERS AND THE DEMOCRATIC DONORS, THE PARTY MEMBERS THATTHEY SHOULD WAIT TO SPEAK HIS CAMPAIGN UNTIL HE HAS A CHANCE TO GO THROUGH THE FIRST FOUR STATES, SOUTH CAROLINA IS A BIG ONE WHERE HE WANTS TO HAVE A REVIVAL AND HE BELIEVES -- SO HE WANTS TO SIGNAL ACROSS NEW HAMPSHIRE THAT HE'S GOING TO PLAY IN NEVADA AND SOUTH CAROLINA, BUT YOU HAVE TO WONDER ABOUT THE RISKS HE TAKES.
I MEAN, OBVIOUSLY IT HAS TO GO THROUGH THE NEXT COUPLE OF STATES, BUT OBVIOUSLY THERE IS A RISK. NEW HAMPSHIRE IS A GREAT STATE OF CHANGE. IT DOESN'T HAVE MANY READINGS, BUT IT IS A VERY COMPETITIVE STATE IN THE GENERAL ELECTIONS. NOW YOU HAVE A FORMER VICE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES LEAVING NEW HAMPSHIRE BEFORE THE RESULTS ARE HERE IN A PRIMARY. YOU COULD CERTAINLY SEE IF JOE BIDEN WERE GOING OUT WITH THE DEMOCRATIC NOMINATION A PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP WRAPPING THAT AROUND HIM IF THEY ARE CAMPAIGNING AGAINST EACH OTHER. VICE PRESIDENT BIDEN WAS NOT WILLING TO STAY BECAUSE OF THE RESULTS IN THE PRIMARY.
JOHN, TWO THIRDS SAY THEY THINK TRUMP WILL BE RE-ELECTED. DOES THIS STATISTICS SURPRISE YOU? IT'S NOT. RIGHT NOW YOU ARE SEEING THE BEST EXECUTION DONALD TRUMP HAS HAD IN HIS MANAGEMENT. YOU SAW HIM ACQUITED BY THE SENATE. HE HAD A MESSAGE FROM THE STATE OF THE UNION WHICH I THINK WAS PROBABLY HIS BEST AS PRESIDENT IN TERMS OF TRYING TO REACH A WIDER COALITION OF VOTERS. AND YOU HAVE A DEMOCRATIC PARTY THAT HAD A DEBACULA IN IOWA. YOU KNOW, THE RESULTS OF THE CAUCUS WERE ANNOUNCED FIVE OR SIX TIMES IN THE LAST WEEKS AND ARE NOT OFFICIALLY STATED BY SOME HIGHLY REPRESENTATIVE NEWS NETWORKS.
THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY FIGHTS. THEY HAVE NOT DECIDED WHAT DEMOCRATIC PARTY THEY WANT TO BE. DO YOU WANT TO BE ON THE LEFT, DO YOU WANT TO BE ON THE CENTER? IT HAS A SERIES OF CANDIDATES THAT DO NOT HAVE 25% OR 30% IN ANY STATE. THIS IS A GREATEST MOMENT FOR DONALD TRUMP AND THAT'S WHY I THINK VOTERS SAY THEY SEE HIM RE-ELECTED. YOU KNOW, IT'S FEBRUARY OF ELECTION YEAR. IT IS NOT NOVEMBER OF THE ELECTION YEAR. WE WILL HAVE TO SEE WHAT HAPPENS. JOHN ALLEN, I DON'T PREDICT A KLOBUCHAR WIN TONIGHT, BUT I PROMISE IF YOU TALK TO US TOMORROW AND SHE WINS, WE'LL LET YOU SAY YOU SAID SO, OK?
I WAS GOING TO SAY, IF WE NEED TO, LET'S EDIT THE TAPE. WE WILL DO THAT. THANK YOU SO MUCH. IT'S GREAT TO HAVE YOU IN THE SHOW. THANK YOU, ALISON. SENATOR AMY KLOBUCHAR ADDRESSES THE PRIMARY TODAY WITH WHAT HER CAMPAIGN CALLS CLOEB KLOBOMENTUM. WIN OR LOSE, I'M HERE TONIGHT. THEY WERE EXCITED. WE HAVE A GREAT TEAM PLANNING A GREAT PARTY. JOIN US TO SPEAK ABOUT THE KLOBUCHAR GARRETT HAAKE CAMPAIGN IN MANCHESTER, NEW HAMPSHIRE. YOU TWITTERED EARLIER TODAY TOTALLY UNSCIENTIFIC BUT THE LAST FOUR VOTERS I INTERVIEWED AT THIS POLLING PLACE IN MANCHESTER SAID THEY VOTE FOR AMY KLOBUCHAR, SAID THEY DECIDE SINCE FRIDAY, INCLUDING ONE THIS MORNING, ALL SAID THE DEBATE SEALED IT.
WOULD YOU GIVE US MORE NON-SCIENTIFIC KNOWLEDGE THAT YOU LEARNED? WHAT THEY SAY ABOUT KLOBUCHAR. I THINK THERE ARE SIX OR SEVEN VOTERS. THE KLOBUCHAR CAMPAIGN HAS BEEN PLANNING FOR DAYS THAT THEY ARE SEEING A SIGNIFICANT MOMENTUM COMING OUT OF THE DEBATE. I SAW THAT MANCHESTER ANCDOTALLY WITH A NUMBER OF VOTERS SAYING THEY ARE DECIDING LATE IN THE GAME, SOMETIMES IN THE CABIN ITSELF, TO TAKE THE LEVER FOR AMY KLOBUCHAR. IT IS INTERESTING TO SEE WHO WAS ON THE LIST. PEOPLE TOLD ME THEY WERE TRYING TO DECIDE BETWEEN HER AND PETE BUTTIGIEG. SOME PUT HER IN THE SAME GROUP WITH ELIZABETH WARREN OR WITH JOE BIDEN.
JOE BIDEN'S OUT OF STATE POLLS. IT'S DIFFICULT TO SAY HOW IT COULD HAVE PERFORMED. A LOT OF THE VOTERS WANT SOMEONE WHO CAN TACKLE DONALD TRUMP AND LIKED WHAT THEY HEARD FROM KLOBUCHAR IN THAT DEBATE. NOW AGAIN I AM NOT IN THE PREDICTION DOING BUSINESS BUT A STRONG CLOSE IS REALLY THE BEST THING TO HOPE FOR WHEN YOU ARE LESS KNOWN IN THE STATE, HAVE NOT RUN FOR PRESIDENT BEFORE, YOU DON'T HAVE THE RESOURCES OF OTHERS. SHE IS STILL COMPETING AGAINST SOME PRETTY CAMPAIGN ORGANIZATIONS FROM MONMUTH. I KNEW A LOT OF BERNIE SANDERS VOTERS AND A LOT OF SUPPORTERS OF JOE BIDEN, OF ELIZABETH WARREN, OF MAYOR PETE.
SOME SUPPORTERS BEHIND ME HAVE BEEN HERE ALL DAY. GARRETT HAAKE, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR TAKING US TIME TONIGHT. YOU BET. OUR NEW COVERAGE OF HAMPSHIRE CONTINUES HERE ON NBC NOW NOW IMMEDIATELY AFTER THIS BREAK. BACK TO MANCHESTER, NEW HAMPSHIRE, WHERE THE VOTE IS DECREASING. SAVANNAH STELLERS IS ON THE FLOOR THERE. SAVANNAH, IT'S AWESOME TO SEE YOU. WHAT ARE YOU HEARING FROM THE VOTERS OUT THERE IN MANCHESTER? HELLO, ALISON. SO JUST TO BE TOTALLY HONEST WITH YOU, I'M STANDING BY GARRETT, WHO YOU JUST HEARD ABOUT. DEFINITELY A SIMILAR VIBE. FIRST OF ALL, WE HAVE BEEN TALKING TO SOME PEOPLE ABOUT MANY KLOBUCHAR VOTERS HE HEARD THAT FROM, SO JUST DECIDED, JUST MAKING THAT DECISION NOW.
LISTEN FROM SOME OF THE PEOPLE WHO HAD NOT FULLY MADE THE DECISION UNTIL TODAY. I KNEW IT WAS GOING TO BE BERNIE. HE IS THE MOST HONEST CANDIDATE. HE STAYED WITH THE SAME MESSAGE FOR DECADES. YOU KNOW, THAT RESONATES ME. ANYONE BUT TRUMP. AMY. AMY KLOBUCHAR. I LIKE IT FROM THE BEGINNING. I DID NOT KNOW HOW MUCH HE WOULD HAVE, HOW MUCH SUPPORT HE WILL HAVE. BUT THEN I SAID I DON'T CARE, I'M GOING TO SUPPORT HER. Reporter: SO THAT WOMAN OVER THERE, MAUREEN, TOLD ME SHE ACTUALLY MADE THE DECISION WHILE SHE WAS INSIDE THIS BUILDING WHERE I VOTE.
WE ARE IN MANCHESTER, WARD 1. THIS IS ONE OF THE 12 WARDS IN THE LARGEST CITY IN THE STATE. THIS IS WHERE EVERY CAMPAIGN HAS AN OFFICE IN THE CITY. MANY CAME HERE TODAY. I WANT TO INTRODUCE YOU TO SOME PEOPLE. IF YOU WATCHED THE "TODAY" SHOW, YOU HAD SEEN THEM. THESE PEOPLE, SOME OF THEM, MY FRIEND HAS BEEN HERE SINCE 5:45 THIS MORNING. DID I MENTION MANY CAMPAIGNS HAVE OFFICES HERE. YOU REALLY HAVE TO KNOW THE CANDIDATE YOU ARE VOLUNTEERING FOR, IS THAT CORRECT? YES, HE THANKED US FOR BEING HERE AT 6:00 A.M. THIS MORNING. Reporter: WHAT WAS IT LIKE TALKING WITH HIM AFTER YOU VOLUNTEERED FOR HIM?
IT WAS AMAZING. I'VE MET HIM A TIME OR TWICE BEFORE. BUT TODAY I WAS OVERWHELMED AND I BEGAN TO CRY MY EYES. AWESOME EXPERIENCE. Reporter: I HAVE TO SAY ALSO I LOVE YOU GUYS, ALL THE DIFFERENT CAMPAIGNS LIKE HERE TOGETHER. ZACK, THIS IS SOMEONE I WANT TO INTRODUCE TO YOU, ZACK, A GOOD COMMENT ON WHAT'S GOING ON HERE. WE HAVE HAD MANY CAMPAIGNS HERE. YOU CAN SEE BUTTIGIEG AND WARREN AND BIDEN AND PATRICK, BILL WELD. YOU KNOW, A LOT OF CAMARADERIE BETWEEN US. WE WANT TO THANK YOU GUYS FROM THE PRESS. I AM IN THE BACKGROUND OF THE KATY TUR PROGRAM THIS AFTERNOON.
SHE HAS RECEIVED MORE ABUSE THAN ANYONE SHOULD HAVE FROM THE CURRENT OCCUPANTS OF THE WHITE HOUSE. WE WANT TO SAY TO OUR FRIENDS IN THE PRESS, YOU ARE AN ESSENTIAL PART OF OUR REPUBLIC AND MAY GOD BLESS YOU ALL. Reporter: GUYS I DID NOT KNOW ZACK WAS GOING TO SAY THAT. I THOUGHT I WAS GOING TO SAY YOU HAVE BEEN VERY NICE TO EACH OTHER. OUR FAVORITE FAN OF THE NIGHT. Reporter: YES, WE JUST HEARD THAT IT IS OUR FAVORITE OF THE NIGHT. ALISON. ANYWAY, MANY UNDECIDED VOTERS HERE. MANY PEOPLE HAVE BEEN VOLUNTEERING, HIGHLIGHTING HERE, SUPPORTING THEIR CANDIDATE OF CHOICE FOR OVER 12 HOURS.
SUPPORTING YOUR CANDIDATE, SUPPORTING THE PRESS. WE THANK YOU SO MUCH. YOU WERE IN A DIFFERENT PART OF NEW HAMPSHIRE TODAY. WHAT DID YOU SEE THERE? IS IT DIFFERENT THAN WHAT YOU ARE SEEING IN NEW HAMPSHIRE RIGHT NOW? Reporter: YES, I'M IN LACONIA, AN INDEPENDENT TOWN THAT VOTES THE SAME WAY AS THE ENTIRE STATE GOES SINCE 2000. AND WHAT WE REALLY SAW THERE IS A REPUBLICAN TOWN. THERE WERE A LOT MORE REPUBLICANS REGISTERED AT THE START OF THE DAY BECAUSE HERE IN NEW HAMPSHIRE YOU CAN STILL REGISTER TO VOTE WHEN YOU GET TO THE PRIMARY. THE INTERESTING THING THERE WAS ALSO MANY INDECIDES.
THERE WERE 42 MORE REGISTERED REPUBLICANS THAN UNDECLARED. ENTER THE PRIMARY PROCESS HERE IF YOU ARE NOT DECLARED, TELL THEM THAT I WOULD LIKE TO DECLARE MYSELF AS A REPUBLICAN OR A DEMOCRAT. WHAT IS ALSO INTERESTING IN NEW HAMPSHIRE BEFORE YOU WALK OUT THE DOOR MAY GO AGAIN UNSTATED IF YOU DECIDE SO. PEOPLE WHO SAY THEY ARE NOT NECESSARILY COMMITTED TODAY TO ANY PARTY THEY ARE VOTING FOR NOW. MANY PEOPLE AGAIN WERE NOT SURE WHAT THEY WERE GOING TO DO. I SAW A COUPLE HAD TICKET IN HAND TOGETHER AND THEY WERE STANDING OUTSIDE THE BOOTH, WHAT ARE WE GOING TO DO?
THANKS TO YOU AND THANKS TO THE VOTERS. THEY ARE WHAT MAKES THE DEMOCRATIC PROCESS SO FUN. THEY BRING THE FUN. THANK YOU ALSO TO THE VOTERS OF NEW HAMPSHIRE. Reporter: THANK YOU. WHEN ALL IS SAID AND DONE TONIGHT, WILL WE HAVE A CLEARER PICTURE OF WHO THE DEMOCRATIC PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE MIGHT BE? FORMER CLINTON 2016 COMMUNICATIONS DIRECTOR AND MSNBC CONTRIBUTOR, ADRIAN, IT'S GREAT TO HAVE YOU HERE. SANDERS AND BUTTIGIEG LEFT IOWA NECK AND NECK. BIDEN HEADS TO SOUTH CAROLINA TODAY. WARREN IS SAYING IT'S NOT ABOUT THE POLLS. WHAT DO YOU THINK WHERE ARE THE DEMOCRATIC CANDIDATES? IT'S CHAOTIC.
EXACTLY WHAT YOU SAID IS EXACTLY WHY NEW HAMPSHIRE IS SO IMPORTANT TO THE DEMOCRATIC PRIMARY PROCESS. IT'S GOING TO GIVE US A LOT OF INFORMATION ABOUT WHO HAS THE MOMENTUM AND WHO IS PLAYING WELL WITH CERTAIN AUDIENCES. WE KNOW FROM SOME OF THE PREVIOUS EXHIBITION POLLS THAT -- IN PREVIOUS EXIT POLLS, YOUNG PEOPLE WERE A LITTLE LESS THAN EXPECTED. THAT COULD IMPACT BERNIE SANDERS. THERE IS A LOT OF INFORMATION WE WILL KNOW TONIGHT. ELIZABETH WARREN I THINK IT COULD BE ONE OF THE, YOU KNOW, BIGGEST, YOU KNOW, DOWNS TONIGHT IF IT DOESN'T PLACE IN THE TOP TWO OR THREE BECAUSE IT'S FROM A NEIGHBORING STATE.
WE KNOW FROM HISTORY NEW HAMPSHIRE VOTERS LIKE PEOPLE FROM NEIGHBORING STATES. IT LOOKS LIKE BERNIE SANDERS HAS THE MOMENTUM EVEN IF THE YOUTH VOTE IS A LITTLE LOWER THAN EXPECTED AND MAYOR PETE IS DOING WELL TOO. AMY KLOBUCHAR, LOOKING TO SEE HOW YOU ARE TONIGHT. MINNESOTA NOT CLOSE TO NEW HAMPSHIRE LIKE AMY KLOBUCHAR, THE TOP TWO OR THREE TONIGHT, THAT'S MEANINGFUL TO HER AND THAT'S THE MOMENTUM THAT CAN CARRY ON NEVADA AND SOUTH CAROLINA. IS THERE A PARTICULAR PERSON, A CANDIDATE THAT YOU THINK IS IN THE BEST POSITION IN NEW HAMPSHIRE RIGHT NOW? I THINK IT'S PROBABLY A DISPUTE BETWEEN PETE BUTTIGIEG AND AMY KLOBUCHAR.
IT REALLY DEPENDS ON WHAT HAPPENS TONIGHT. BUT GETTING BACK TO THE FACT THAT AMY KLOBUCHAR IS NOT FROM A STATE CLOSE TO NEW HAMPSHIRE, IF HE DOES WELL, IS IN THE TOP TWO OR THREE, I WOULD SAY HE IS IN THE BEST POSITION COMING OUT OF THE STATE BECAUSE IT'S ALL ABOUT HOW YOU SEND IT. AND LOOK, AGAIN, BERNIE SANDERS, A WIN IS A WIN. HE AND MAYOR PETER TIE FOR FIRST IN IOWA. IF HE WINS HERE HE IS BASICALLY SUPER ON EVERY BOARD AND EXPECTED TO DO VERY WELL IN NEVADA, HE DOES WELL IN THE CAUCUS STATES.
NEVADA HAS MANY YOUNG VOTERS WHO TEND TO FAVOR BERNIE SANDERS OVER ANYONE ELSE. SO THAT ALSO GIVES IT A GOOD BOOST. IS TONIGHT A MUST MUST FOR ANYONE? IS THERE ANYONE IN PARTICULAR YOU WORRY IF THEY ARE POOR TONIGHT? I THINK IT'S LESS ABOUT SOMEONE HAS TO WIN. I THINK IT IS MORE THAN WHO FINISHES IN FOURTH OR FIFTH PLACE. I THINK IT IS NOT GOOD FOR BIDEN IF HE IS IN FIFTH PLACE TONIGHT. LET ME ASK YOU, ON THE OTHER SIDE, ABOUT THE REPUBLICANS. NBC'S HIGH LEVEL WHITE HOUSE REPORT SHANNON PETTIT SAID A CLEAR WINNER HAS EMERGED AND THAT'S DONALD TRUMP AND THE PRESIDENT SEEMS TO THINK THE BEST OUTCOME FOR HIM IS FOR THIS DEMOCRATIC TO GO ON WITH THE PARTY CONVENTION AND HE WOULD LIKE MAKE SURE THAT HAPPENS.
FIRST, DO YOU AGREE THAT THE LACK OF A CLEAR VANGUARD SO FAR BENEFITS PRESIDENT TRUMP'S RE-ELECTION CAMPAIGN? NO, I THINK IT'S GREAT BECAUSE THIS IS WHAT IS HAPPENING. YOU ARE SEEING THE DEMOCRATIC CANDIDATES BE MUCH BETTER. A GOOD CONTEST IN THE DEMOCRATIC PRIMARY ONLY GUARANTEES THAT THE PERSON WHO ULTIMATES BECOMES THE NOMINATE IS MUCH BETTER. I MEAN, HILLARY CLINTON, GO BACK TO 2008 AND LOOK AT THE CONFLICTED CAREER BETWEEN HILLARY CLINTON AND BARACK OBAMA, HILLARY CLINTON BECAME AN EVEN BETTER DEBATATOR AS THE PROCESS WENT ON. WHEN BARACK OBAMA BECAME THE NOMINATE HE MADE IT CLEAR BECAUSE HE HAD A VERY COMPETITIVE CAREER WITH HILLARY CLINTON HE DID MUCH BETTER AS A CANDIDATE TO GO IN THE GENERAL ELECTION.
I THINK THIS IS A GOOD COMPETITION FOR US. I WANT TO MAKE IT CLEAR THAT I DON'T BELIEVE THIS SHOULD COME TO THE CONVENTION. I DO NOT THINK IT DOES. WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE MAP, IT IS FRONT LOADING. THERE IS A REASON WHY THE TWO STATES WITH THE HEAVIEST DELEGATES, TEXAS AND CALIFORNIA, ARE ON SUPER TUESDAY. WE WANT TO PICK THE NOMINE AND MOVE ON TO FIND THAT PERSON TO BEAT DONALD TRUMP. WHAT DO YOU THINK THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY SHOULD DO TO PREVENT TRUMP FROM RE-ELECTION IN NOVEMBER? ONE THING IN PARTICULAR, KEEP THIS COURSE, FOLLOW THIS MISSION AND WILL THIS BE SUCCESSFUL?
FIRST OF ALL, IT'S IMPORTANT TO NOT JUST HOLD HIM RESPONSIBLE FOR ALL THE HARMFUL THINGS HE'S DONE TO OUR DEMOCRACY, BUT IMPORTANT TO MAKE SURE WE'RE ON IT -- IT SOUNDS cliché, BUT EXPAND OUR BASE AND THAT'S WHAT WE GET OUT TO VOTE. WE HAVE SEEN REPUBLICANS OVER AND OVER AGAIN DO EVERYTHING THEY CAN TO SUPPRESS VOTES ON ALL PANELS, AND CERTAINLY ON THE SIDE OF THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY. WE HAVE ALSO SEEN SOME VERY CONCERNING LAWS PASSED SINCE... IN KEY STATES THE LAST TWO YEARS DESIGNED TO SUPPRESS VOTING BETWEEN AFRICAN-AMERICANS AND MINORITIES. SO IT IS IMPORTANT THAT WE DO EVERYTHING WE CAN TO RAISE AWARENESS OF SOME OF THESE LAWS AND MAKE SURE THAT EVERY PERSON WHO IS ELIGIBLE FORRIGHT HAVE THE RIGHT TO VOTE AND VOTE.
VERY IMPORTANT. ALISON, THE NUMBERS ARE ON THE DEMOCRAT'S SIDE. WE HAVE THE NUMBERS TO WIN. IF OUR PEOPLE WORK, WE WILL BEAT DONALD TRUMP. BUT IT IS IMPORTANT THAT WE DO EVERYTHING WE CAN TO MAKE SURE PEOPLE HAVE THE RIGHT TO VOTE. ADRIAN ELROD, THAT'S FOR BEING WITH ME TONIGHT. THANK YOU. NEW HAMPSHIRE IPD PENTS ARE THE LARGEST VOTING BLOC HEADING TO THE POLLS TONIGHT. WE HAVE BEEN TALKING WITH THEM FOR MONTHS. HERE IS WHAT SOME INDEPENDENTS SAID "NBC NEWS NOW" LAST NOVEMBER. HOW DO YOU SEE THIS FIELD OF DEMOCRATIC CANDIDATES? I DON'T SEE A STRONG COMPETENT, SOMEONE WHO HAS PRESIDENTIAL QUALITIES TO BE A TRUE LEADER.
I HAVE BECOME DISGUSTED WITH THE RANCOR IN THE SYSTEM NOW. EVERYONE -- BOTH SIDES JUST THROWING INSULTS AT EACH OTHER. THERE IS NOTHING POSITIVE THAT I SEE. I DID NOT WANT TO BE AFFILIATED WITH HIM ANYMORE. EVERYONE THINKS I'M A DEMOCRAT UNTIL THEY TALK TO ME AND I EXPLAIN WHY I'M NOT A DEMOCRAT. I WAS A BERNIE VOLUNTEER IN 2015. HILLY'S PLATFORM DID NOT APPEAL TO ME. I FELT WE WERE GOING TO... We were going to get stuck in the status quo. THE WAY I LIKE TO EXPLAIN IT IS I DRIED OBAMA'S LEMONADE AND I WAS STILL THIRSTY.
I'M RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE. WHEN I STARTED VOTING IN 2009 I HAVE HISTORICALLY VOTED FOR A REPUBLICAN. BUT I FEEL LIKE 2019 IS VERY DIFFERENT FROM WHEN I STARTED VOTING. IT CALLS ME THAT IN THE 21ST CENTURY WOMEN'S RIGHT TO CHOOSE IS STILL UNDER DISCUSSION. ALEXA HAS KEPT IN TOUCH WITH THESE NEW HAMPSHIRE VOTERS. SO YOU HAVE BEEN CHECKING WITH THEM PERIODICALLY. TALK ME THROUGH YOUR CHECK UP WITH THEM AND WHERE THEY ARE TODAY ON THE BIG DAY. EXACTLY. WE ARE INTERESTED IN SEEING HOW THE MILLIONS OF DOLLARS SPENT IN NEW HAMPSHIRE AND THE TIME CANDIDATES HAVE SPENT IN NEW HAMPSHIRE HAS IMPACTED POTENTIAL VOTERS OVER TIME.
AS YOU SEE HERE, RUSS, LISA AND COURTNEY ARE LOOKING AT THIS FROM A DIFFERENT ANGLE. SO FOR RUSS, FOR EXAMPLE, THE GENTLEMEN WE TALKED TO IN THE DINING ROOM WAS OUT OF POLITICS. THIS IS THE TIME FOR THE ARREST HEARINGS IN NOVEMBER. IT WAS COMPLETELY DISCONNECTED. TODAY HE TOLD ME THAT HE WOULD NOT VOTE IN THIS ELECTION CYCLE. THEN WE GO TO COURTNEY, FOR EXAMPLE, WHICH IS AN INTERESTING CASE. SHE SPOKE ABOUT THE IMPORTANCE OF WOMEN'S ISSUES IN HER VOTING EXPERIENCE, AND WHAT'S INTERESTING ABOUT COURTNEY IS SHE HAS ONLY VOTEED REPUBLICAN IN THE PAST. HER ENTIRE FAMILY IS VOTING RED TODAY AND SHE TOLD ME ON THE PHONE SHE WAS LEANING BLUE.
SHE DOESN'T SAY EXACTLY WHO, WHAT DEMOCRAT SHE WILL VOTE FOR. SHE SAID IT WAS GOING TO BE A PLAY TIME DECISION. SHE SAID PETE BUTTIGIEG RESONATED WITH HER. BUT HE WAS RIGHT -- WASN'T READY TO COMMIT? SHE WAS GOING TO BE A TYPICAL UNREPORTED VOTER OF NEW HAMPSHIRE. SO COURTNEY, LA -- SORRY, LISA THE HOST OF THE RADIO SHOW GOING ON WITH BERNIE SANDERS. SHE ALSO TALKED ABOUT NOT NECESSARILY WANTING TO ALIGN OR FEEL ALIGNED WITH THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY BUT WANTING TO SUPPORT BERNIE SANDERS. SHE SAID THAT IOWA, FOR EXAMPLE, HAD A HUGE IMPACT ON HER, I MEAN, BECAUSE OF HOW IOWA WAS MANAGED.
HE DID NOT FEEL LIKE HE ALIGNED WITH THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY BUT HE WANTED TO SHOW SUPPORT FOR BERNIE SANDERS. RUSS IS AN INTERESTING CASE TO ME, DON'T VOTE. WHY ARE YOU NOT INTERESTED IN STANDING UP AND VOTING TODAY? WHAT IS THE BIGGEST PROBLEM FOR HIM? EXACTLY. PARTICIPATION IS IMPORTANT TO DEMOCRATS RIGHT NOW. ESPECIALLY CONSIDERING IOWA. FOR ONE LIKE RUSS TO BE PREVIOUSLY POLITICALLY ENGAGED, PRE-EXAMINE THE POSITIONS OF THE CANDIDATES, AND COME THIS YEAR AND SAY I'M NOT PARTICIPATING IS NOT THE BEST SCENARIO. NO, IT'S NOT WHAT YOU WANT, IS IT? RIGHT? SO WITH RUSS I COULD NOT FIND A CANDIDATE WHO COULD ENGAGE THAT PASSION THAT WOULD OVERCOME THE IMPEACHING EXHAUSTMENT I'D BEEN FEELING OVER THE LAST MONTHS.
HE SAID PETE BUTTIGIEG'S ADS WERE POSITIVE FOR HIM AND ALSO EXPRESSED CURIOSITY ON PATRICK'S PLATFORM. HE SAID NO CANDIDATE PUSHED HIM OVER THE LIMIT TO VOTE FOR OR AGAINST THIS TIME. SO CURIOUS. WE WILL HAVE TO CONSULT WITH HIM A LITTLE LATER TO SEE IF HE REGRETS THAT DECISION. EXACTLY. THANK YOU FOR BEING WITH US AND FOR KEEPING IN TOUCH WITH THOSE PEOPLE. THANK YOU, ALISON. OUR NEW COVERAGE OF HAMPSHIRE CONTINUES HERE ON "NBC NEWS NOW." THE ROAD TO NEW HAMPSHIRE IS -- ALL GOOD. EVERY FOUR YEARS WE HOLD THE NEW HAMPSHIRE ELEMENTARY. IT'S ABOUT US HERE.
BEAUTIFUL NEW HAMPSHIRE. THIS IS NOT A MIDWINTER SCENE LIKE IT IS RIGHT NOW. THIS LOOKS LIKE EARLY FALL, FOLIAGE, A LITTLE MORE SNOW ON THE GROUND, ICE IN THE AREA RIGHT NOW, BUT WHAT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT IN NEW HAMPSHIRE, SPECIFICALLY THE IMPORTANCE OF NEW HAMPSHIRE ELEMENTARY WHEN IT COMES TO DETERMINE WHO WILL BE THE DEMOCRATIC NOMINEE FOR PRESIDENT. WE HAD IOWA. WE'RE GOING TO NEW HAMPSHIRE. LET'S TAKE A LOOK AT THE TRAJECTORY. THE IOWA/NEW HAMPSHIRE RECORD. HAVE A LOOK. THE LAST TIME IN THE IOWA CAUCUSES IN 2016, HILLARY CLINTON WON THIS. SHE WON IT NARLY, BUT GOT A WIN.
EIGHT DAYS LATER, THAT'S THE DISTANCE, IOWA, NEW HAMPSHIRE, EIGHT DAYS LATER BERNIE SANDERS WON EASILY NEW HAMPSHIRE. REMEMBER, VERMONT, NEW HAMPSHIRE, NEXT DOOR NEIGHBOR. CLINTON WON IOWA. SANDERS WON NEW HAMPSHIRE. WHICH HAS DONE IT WELL? HILLARY CLINTON WAS THE DEMOCRATIC NOMINEE. IT'S IOWA ONE, NEW HAMPSHIRE IS NOTHING WHEN IT COMES TO PREDICTING THE DEMOCRATIC NOMINEE. THE PREVIOUS ONE, 2008, DO YOU REMEMBER THIS? BARACK OBAMA WON THE IOWA CAUCUSES, VERY BIG. AND THEN HILLARY CLINTON, THIS WAS A SURPRISE, THE POLLS HAD OBAMA AHEAD, CLINTON ENDED UP WINNING NEW HAMPSHIRE. OF COURSE THE NOMINATE WE ALL REMEMBER BARACK OBAMA.
SO IT'S DOUBLE THE TWO MOST RECENT NOMINATIONS ON THE DEMOCRATIC SIDE THAT IOWA HAS GONE ONE WAY, NEW HAMPSHIRE GOES THE OTHER WAY, AND THE NOMINEE HAS BEEN THE CANDIDATE IOWA SELECTED. IT DOESN'T ALWAYS HAPPEN LIKE THIS. LOOK AT 2004. JOHN KERRY WON IOWA. THE LATE CHARGE FOR HIM. JOHN EDWARDS SECOND PLACE. THEY WENT TO NEW HAMPSHIRE. JOHN KERRY WON THERE LIKE REAL. HE HAD A LITTLE BENEFIT FOR THE NEXT DOOR NEIGHBOR THERE. HOWARD DEAN FROM VERMONT WAS RACING THAT YEAR. KERRY WON THEM BOTH. WHEN YOU WIN BOTH -- BY THE WAY, THE PEOPLE HAVE WON IOWA AND NEW HAMPSHIRE, THEY ARE UNDEFEATED IN THE MODERN ERA IN TERMS OF WINNING THE DEMOCRATIC NOMINATION.
THIS HAPPENED IN 2000. GORE WON IOWA, GORE WON NEW HAMPSHIRE, GORE BECAME THE NOMINEE. SO THIS CENTURY FOUR COMPETITIVE RACES FOR THE DEMOCRATIC NOMINATION. FOUR TIMES IOWA GOT THE NOMINATE, TWICE NEW HAMPSHIRE. OF COURSE, WHAT MAKES THIS SO INTERESTING THIS YEAR, THAT IOWA'S RESULT IS STILL A LITTLE CONFUSED, LATE FORMATION, IS NOT CLEAR, BUT THE SIGNIFICANCE OF IOWA'S RESULT COMPARED TO THE PAST, BECAUSE YOU DIDN'T HAVE THAT KIND OF WINNER I CLEAN IMMEDIATELY AFTER THAT. MAYBE THERE IS A THEORY THAT THE NEW HAMPSHIRE ELEMENTARY TAKES MORE IMPORTANCE THIS YEAR. NOBODY QUIT AFTER IOWA. MAYBE NEW HAMPSHIRE WILL DO WHAT IOWA NORMALLY DOES AND THINK THE FIELD.
THAT IS A THEORY. WE WILL SEE WHAT HAPPENS. OF COURSE, WHEN WE LEAVE IOWA AND NEW HAMPSHIRE THE RACE WILL BE NATIONAL. NEXT SNOW. THEN MORE DIVERSE WHEN YOU GET TO NEVADA. HISPANICS IN THE MAJORITY, LARGE HISPANIC POPULATION IN NEVADA. THEN SOUTH CAROLINA. 61% IN THE 2016 PRIMARY IN SOUTH CAROLINA AFRICAN AMERICAN. THAT IS THE FIRST IMPORTANT TEST OF BLACK VOTERS. THAT COMES. WHEN YOU PASS SOUTH CAROLINA YOU ARE A FEW DAYS AWAY FROM SUPER TUESDAY. SO FROM THE TWO SMALL STATES, IOWA AND NEW HAMPSHIRE, MAYBE WE WILL SEE SOME CLARITY. WE'RE GOING TO NEVADA AND SOUTH CAROLINA AND THEN A LARGE PART OF THE COUNTRY IS GOING TO VOTE AND WE'LL PROBABLY KNOW WITHIN THE NEXT MONTH IF SOMEONE CLEARLY BREAKS DOWN IN THIS RACE, ON THEIR ROAD TO THE NOMINE OR DO WE HAVE A MESS?
WE ONLY HAVE A WASH OF FOUR CARS? DARE I SAY IT, A MEDIATED CONVENTION? WE ARE ABOUT TO KNOW. NEW HAMPSHIRE VOTERS FIRST IN THE NATION TO HEAD TO THE POLLS. ONE THING ON THEIR MINDS, MONEY. THE MONEY PROBLEMS THEY FACE DAY BY DAY. THERE ARE STRENGTHS IN THE ECONOMY AND OVERALL PERFORMANCE OF NEW HAMPSHIRE AS A STATE. ACCORDING TO 2018 FIGURES, NEW HAMPSHIRE HAS THE LOWEST POVERTY RATE IN THE COUNTRY. ALMOST 7% OF ITS RESIDENTS SAY THEY HAVE INCOME BELOW THE POVERTY LINE. WAGES ARE A VERY BIG PROBLEM IN NEW HAMPSHIRE. AVERAGE WAGES ACTUALLY DECREASED IN 2018 DESPITE LOW UNEMPLOYMENT.
SINCE 2008, AVERAGE WAGES IN NEW HAMPSHIRE HAVE RISEN ONLY 0.6%. COMPARE THAT TO 7% NATIONWIDE. WHEN IT COMES TO EDUCATION, NEW HAMPSHIRE HAS SOME SERIOUS PROBLEMS. RANKS LAST IN AFFORDABLE HIGHER EDUCATION. THIS COULD BE THE MAIN REASON WHY THEY HAVE SUCH. MORE THAN 24% OF GRANITE STATE RESIDENTS SAY THEY HAVE OUTSTANDING STUDENT LOANS. THAT IS AN EXPENSE THAT MAKES THEM LOWER EVERY MONTH. HIGH HEALTH CARE COSTS IN NEW HAMPSHIRE. WHILE MANY SAY THEY GET THEIR INSURANCE FROM THEIR PRIVATE EMPLOYER, MANY ARE STRUGGLING TO KEEP UP. OVER 90% OF PEOPLE HAVE SAID IN THE LAST YEAR ALONE THAT THEY DON'T GO TO THE DOCTOR BECAUSE IT COSTS TOO MUCH.
THE OTHER NUMBERS ARE THE ONES WE WILL BE WATCHING AS WE CONTINUE ON THE PATH INTO THE FUTURE. NEW HAMPSHIRE IS A KEY STATE IN THIS ELECTION. NOT ONLY BECAUSE IT CONTAINS THE FIRST PRIMARY, BUT ALSO BECAUSE OF ITS UNPREDICTIBILITY. SO UNPREDICTABLE THAT THE DEMOCRATIC CANDIDATES HAVE SPENT 300 DAYS THERE. THE LARGEST GROUP OF VOTERS IN THE STATE ARE REGISTERED REPUBLICANS OR REGISTERED DEMOCRATS. IN FACT, THEY ARE NOT AFFILIATED WITH ANY PARTY. "NBC NEWS NOW" ALEXA YODA SPOKE TO THREE VOTERS WITH THREE DIFFERENT PERSPECTIVES. I AM ALL OVER THE PLACE WITH HIGH STORY I FEEL LIKE I AM IN THE MIDDLE.
MANY PEOPLE LIKE ME CHOOSE TO REMAIN WITHOUT MEMBERSHIP. Reporter: NEW HAMPSHIRE HOLDS THE FIRST PRESIDENTIAL PRIMARY IN THE UNITED STATES, BUT IT MAY BE VERY HARD TO PREDICT BECAUSE THE LARGEST GROUP OF VOTERS IN THE STATE IS NEITHER DEMOCRAT OR REPUBLICAN. THEY ARE THE VOTERS WHO ARE REGISTERED BUT HAVE NOT DECLARED THEMSELVES TO BE A POLITICAL PARTY. NEW HAMPSHIRE IS UNIQUE BECAUSE UNDECLARED VOTERS MAY CHOOSE TO VOTE IN ANY PRIMARY AND MAKE THAT CHOICE UNTIL ELECTION DAY. THEY MAKE UP 42% OF THE ELECTORATE, BUT THEY ARE NOT A MONOLITH. NOT ALL UNDECLARED VOTERS ARE THE SAME. WE FOLLOW THREE TO KNOW WHERE THEY ARE.
EVERYONE THINKS I'M A DEMOCRAT UNTIL THEY TALK TO ME AND I EXPLAIN WHY I'M NOT A DEMOCRAT. Reporter: SHE IS AN ENVIRONMENTAL SCIENTIST AND VOLUNTEER AT HER COMMUNITY RADIO. SHE IS CONCERNED ABOUT THINGS LIKE CLEAN WATER AND ENVIRONMENTAL REGULATION. YOU MIGHT THINK YOU WOULD BE A REGISTERED DEMOCRAT. TELL ME WHEN HE LEFT THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY. IT WAS THE LATE 90'S AND I FELT VERY DIFFERENT FROM WHAT I SAW AS PRESIDENT CLINTON'S COMFORT WITH WALL STREET AND THAT IT WAS THE KIND OF FDR DEMOCRATIC PARTY THAT I GROW UP WITH. SO WHEN I HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO REGISTER TO VOTE AND I HAD A CHOICE, I CHOSE NOT TO JOIN ANY PARTY.
AND I REMEMBER THE REGISTRAR SAID YOU YOUNG PEOPLE, DO NOT COMMIT YOURSELF TO ANYTHING. AND I SAID, YOU KNOW, WHEN THE DEMOCRATS START REPRESENTING ME, THEN I'LL START REPRESENTING THEM. Reporter: HERE IN THE STATE OF NEW HAMPSHIRE WE ARE CONSIDERING THE NEED TO SPEND $3 TO $5 BILLION ON DRINKING WATER AND STORMWATER AND WASTEWATER ON INFRASTRUCTURE IN THE NEXT 10 TO 15 YEARS. THAT IS NOT DISCUSSED. Reporter: WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT THE CANDIDATE FIELD, DO YOU LEAD TO SOMEONE LIKE BERNIE SANDERS WHO HAS ENDORSED A POLICY PROPOSAL LIKE THE GREEN NEW DEAL? WHO DO YOU GRAVITATE TOWARDS? I VOLUNTEERED FOR BERNIE IN 2015.
HILLARY'S PLATFORM DID NOT APPEAL TO ME AND I THOUGHT WE WERE GOING TO BE STUCK WITH THE STATUS QUO. THE WAY I LIKE TO EXPLAIN IT IS I DRIED OBAMA'S LEMONADE AND I WAS STILL THIRSTY. LIKE WE DIDN'T MAKE THE MOVE DURING THE OBAMA YEARS, PARTICULARLY IN THE AREA OF THE ENVIRONMENT, WHICH I WOULD HAVE LIKED TO SEE. HERE WAS THIS GREAT OPPORTUNITY TO USE THAT MOMENTUM TO MOVE FORWARD. I HAVE FOLLOWED BERNIE SINCE HE WAS A REPRESENTATIVE IN WASHINGTON. ON THE OTHER HAND, YOU KNOW, FOR ME I AM A POLITICS ADDICT, AND IT COMES DOWN TO WHO CAN BEAT TRUMP.
Reporter: WHILE LISA LEASES LEFT, SHE HAS NOT DECIDED WHICH DEMOCRAT TO VOTE FOR. COURTNEY FEELS DIFFERENT. SHE ALWAYS VOTE REPUBLICAN, BUT SHE'S NOT SURE THE REPUBLICAN PARTY TODAY REALLY REPRESENTS HER ANYMORE. I FEEL LIKE I'M RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE. WHEN I STARTED VOTING IN 2009 I HAVE HISTORICALLY VOTED REPUBLICAN, BUT I FEEL LIKE 2019 IS VERY DIFFERENT THAN WHEN I STARTED VOTING. IT CALLS ME THAT IN THE XXI CENTURY WOMEN'S RIGHT TO CHOOSE IS STILL UNDER DISCUSSION. I BELIEVE THERE ARE MANY MORE ISSUES IN THIS COUNTRY THAT CAN BE TALKED ABOUT. HOMELESS VETERANS. FLINT, MICHIGAN HAS NO CLEAN WATER.
I JUST DON'T THINK IT'S RELEVANT. WOMEN SHOULD HAVE THE RIGHT TO CHOOSE WHAT HAPPENS IN THEIR BODIES. I DO NOT LIKE THAT THEY USE IT AS A POLITICAL GAME TO GET VOTES. Reporter: COURTNEY IS EXACTLY THE KIND OF VOTERS SOME OF THE MORE MODERATE DEMOCRATIC CANDIDATES COULD WIN. I'D SAY THE ONE I'VE BEEN WATCHING AND REALLY GOT MY ATTENTION WOULD BE MAYOR PETE BUTTIGIEG. I KNOW HE'S YOUNG, BUT I FEEL THAT'S WHY I GRAVITIZED FOR HIM. IT'S ACHIEVED FOR SOMEONE WHO IS 37 YEARS OLD, I THINK IT IS, AND I THINK HE GETS WHAT THE MILLENNIALS ARE -- WHAT ARE THEY FIGHTING FOR.
Reporter: AND THERE IS A THIRD TYPE OF UNDECLARED VOTERS THAT I MEET. ONE SICK OF POLITICS ALL TOGETHER. NOW I'M DISGUSTED WITH THE RANCOR IN THE SYSTEM. EVERYONE -- BOTH SIDES JUST THROWING INSULTS AT EACH OTHER. THERE IS NOTHING POSITIVE SEEING FROMANY SIDE I CAN SEE. AND I JUST DID NOT WANT TO BE AFFILIATED WITH HIM ANYMORE. Reporter: THIS IS RUSS BLANCHET, AN ELECTRONICS TECHNICIAN. HE ALSO VOTE REPUBLICAN ALL HIS LIFE. VOTE FOR DONALD TRUMP IN THE PRIMARY ELECTION. MAINLY A PROTEST VOTE THINKING IT WILL HAVE NO TRACTION TO LEAVE NEW HAMPSHIRE. IT WAS THE YEAR OF JEB BUSH.
AND I BELIEVED THAT. AS A VOTE OF PROTEST, TRUMP. Reporter: NOW? THE CUMULATIVE EFFECT OF NEGATIVITY ALL THESE YEARS. Reporter: AND ARE YOU STILL ON TWITTER? YES. I HAVE THE ABILITY TO MUTE, BLOCK AND DISCONNECT THE THINGS THAT DO NOT INTEREST ME ON TWITTER. Reporter: HAVE YOU SEEN ANY OF THE TRIAL HEARINGS? NOTHING, ZERO. Reporter: EPSTEIN, BIDEN, TRUMP, IMPEACH, EVERYTHING ELSE? A LOT. MAY BE THE SAME. Reporter: BUT POTENTIALLY HAVE ZERO VIEWS ON IMPEACHING? YES, THAT'S THE IDEA. I AM EXHAUSTED BY THIS PROCESS. ITS NOT CUTE. I WAS VERY INVOLVED IN THE NEWS CYCLE FOR A LONG TIME.
IT WAS TOO MUCH. I WOULD GO ONLINE TO POLITICAL NEWS SITES, DIGEST ALL THE NEWS OF THE DAY IN MINUTE DETAIL AND MY BLOOD PRESSURE WAS GOING UP, MY HEALTH WAS DOWN. IT WAS SOMETHING UNHEALTHY FOR ME, SO I HAD TO DO IT FOR MY OWN WELL-BEING. Reporter: ARE YOU HAPPIER NOW? YES, I AM, WITHOUT A DOUBT. Reporter: RUSS DOES NOT WANT TO VOTE FOR TRUMP AGAIN IN

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, BUT ALSO IS NOT SURE THERE IS A DEMOCRAT HE CAN GET. HOW DO YOU SEE THE FIELD OF DEMOCRATIC CANDIDATES? I DON'T SEE A STRONG CONTAINER. I DON'T SEE SOMEONE WHO HAS PRESIDENTIAL QUALITIES TO BE A TRUE LEADER.
Reporter: NO PERSON IN THE FIELD THAT YOU THINK COULD BE POTENTIALLY PRESIDENTIAL? I HAVE RESPECT FOR DUVALL PATRICK, BUT I NEED TO SEE HIM IN ACTION MORE TO MAKE A DECISION TO SUPPORT HIM OR NOT. Reporter: IF THERE WAS A REPUBLICAN CANDIDATE WHO HAD ANY OF THOSE VALUES YOU'RE LOOKING FOR THAT WASN'T TRUMP, WOULD YOU VOTE FOR HIM MORE THAN THE CURRENT OFFERS IN THE DEMOCRATIC FIELD? I BELIEVE IT. Reporter: UNREPORTED REGISTERED VOTERS MAY WAIT UNTIL THE LAST MINUTE TO REGISTER WHOM THEY VOTE FOR IN NEW HAMPSHIRE. CO-WROTE A BOOK ABOUT NEW HAMPSHIRE ELEMENTARY. I guess I would say NOT THINK LIKE ONE BLOCK, BUT LIKE THREE BLOCKS.
THE UNDECLARED WHO ARE REALLY DEMOCRATS, THE UNDECLARED WHO ARE REALLY REPUBLICANS, AND THEN THE UNDECLARED WHO ARE NOT THAT INTERESTED IN POLITICS AND LIKELY WON'T VOTE IN A PRIMARY. THERE IS NO REASON FOR VOTERS TO DECIDE EARLY. THAT REALLY IS WHAT DISTINGUISHES NEW HAMPSHIRE FROM ANY OF THE OTHER TOP STATES OR NOMINATING CONTESTS ANYWHERE. WE HAVE A VERY HIGH PARTICIPATION. SO THE PARTICIPATION THIS YEAR, MY ESTIMATE IS 40 TO 50%. Reporter: HILLARY WON BY LESS THAN 3,000 VOTES. IT WAS THE SECOND CLOSEST STATE IN THE COUNTRY. THAT'S WHY THESE INDEPENDENT VOTERS ARE IMPORTANT FOR THE PRIMARY AND GENERAL. INDEPENDENT VOTERS GIVE ME THE LUXURY OF VOTING FOR WHOM I THINK IS THE BEST CANDIDATE.
WE WILL SEE. DEMOCRATIC CANDIDATES HAVE BEEN VISITING A NUMBER OF BATTLEGROUND STATES. LONG DAYS, REPEATED REJECTION, BUT POSITIVE PERSISTENCE. THIS IS THE REALITY OF THE COLLECTION FOR THE PRESIDENTIAL CAMPAIGNS IN THE FIRST PRIMARY STATES OF THE NATION. I AM ORIGINALLY FROM LOS ANGELES, CALIFORNIA, AND I GRADUATED FROM UCLA. Reporter: MEET NOAH, A STAFF FIELD ORGANIZER FOR THE BIDEN CAMPAIGN IN NEW HAMPSHIRE. NEW HAMPSHIRE, I'M NOT 100% SURE. I WAS GOING TO GO TO LAW SCHOOL AND THEN I WAS LIKE, YOU KNOW WHAT? I NEED TO GO TO WORK FOR JOE BIDEN. I NEED TO DO SOMETHING TO HELP OUR COUNTRY AND SO THE ONLY CAMPAIGN I APPLIED TO WAS JOE BIDEN AND I GET AN INTERVIEW IN NEW HAMPSHIRE AND I GET A SECOND INTERVIEW IN NEW HAMPSHIRE AND THEN I GET A JOB HERE.
SO I THINK I MOVED ON SIX DAYS NOTICE AND STARTED WORKING. Reporter: ALBERT, AN UNPAID VOLUNTEER FOR THE BERNIE SANDERS CAMPAIGN. YES, I'M ALBERT. I'M HERE WITH THE BERNIE SANDERS CAMPAIGN. DO YOU HAVE A SECOND TO TALK ABOUT THE DEMOCRATIC PRIMARY? NO, I DON'T HAVE TIME NOW, BUT THANK YOU. WELL, THANKS. Reporter: HE SPENT SATURDAY AFTERNOON WITH THEM AS THEY KNOCK ON DOORS IN THE CALABASAS STATE OF CONCORD. OFTEN A LARGE JOB. OF C. OFTEN AN EXTENSIVE WORK.A OF . OFTEN AN EXTENSIVE WORK.P OF . OFTEN A LARGE JOB. OFTEN AN EXTENSIVE WORK. OFTEN A LARGE JOB.
HELLO, I COME TO TALK TO MARY? I AM NOT INTERESTED. HAVE A NICE. WHAT WE ARE DOING TODAY AS I SAID IS GOING OUT AND TALKING TO VOTERS AND KNOCKING ON DOORS, SEEING WHAT PEOPLE THINK WHEN THEY THINK ABOUT POLITICAL THINGS, BUT WHAT I HAVE HERE IS CALLED LITERATURE, AND THIS HAS A COUPLE OF POLITICAL POINTS. IT HAS AS THE MAIN OVERALL MESSAGE OF OUR CAMPAIGN, AND IT HAS A NICE BEAUTIFUL PICTURE OF JOE BIDEN, THE ONE AND ONLY. WHAT WE DO IS MAKE SURE WE GIVE IT TO EVERY PERSON WE TALK TO AND ALSO LEAVE IT AT THE DOORS OF EVERYONE WE TALK TO.
THE OTHER THING I HAVE HERE IS CALLED THE PLEDGE TO VOTE CARD. THIS IS WHAT WE COLLECT WHEN WE FIND SOMEONE AS A SUPPORTER. WE SEND IT TO YOU THREE DAYS BEFORE THE ELECTION. AND THEN I HAVE MY LIST AND IT HAS MY MAP AND ALL THE NAMES AND ADDRESSES OF THE PEOPLE WE ARE GOING TO TALK TO TODAY. SO I GO ON WITH MY COMPUTER PROGRAM AND CLICK ON THE AREA I WANT TO WORK ON AND A FEW DOORS OPEN AND THEN I CAN USE A SOFTWARE TOOL TO CUT, WE CALL IT MOWING, MOW A LITTLE AREA, AND I PRINT IT OUT AND IT HAS THE MAP AND ALL THE NAMES.
YOU ARE GENERALLY ASSIGNED TO A DISTRICT OR NEIGHBORHOOD AND TO A CERTAIN SECTION THEREOF. AND IT WILL BE GIVEN AS A FIXED NUMBER OF HOUSES, STREETS GIVEN. ON A GOOD DAY YOU HAVE A SERIES OF GOOD CONVERSATIONS WITH PEOPLE ABOUT POLITICS. YOU HAVE THE VOTERS, MANY OF THEM RESPOND VERY WELL TO FACE TO FACE COMMUNICATION ALSO HAVE ONLY ONE VOICE TO HEAR. TALKING TO THEM ON A ONE-ON-ONE LEVEL. AND THAT'S THE CORE OF WHAT THE CAMPAIGN IS TRYING TO DO, JUST REACH THE VOTERS PERSONALLY IN TERMS OF HOW EVERY ONE OF THESE POLICIES, EVERY SIDE OF THE PLATFORM REALLY SPEAKS TO THEIR ISSUES EVERY DAY.
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PRIMARY SET TO BREAK A RECORD FOR STATE CAMPAIGN SPENDING, AN ESTIMATED $150 MILLION, THOSE ON THE GROUND KNOW HOW HIGH THE STAKES. NOAH HAS IMPROVED SINCE HE STARTED ON THE JOB IN JULY. AT FIRST I WAS LIKE A LITTLE UNSTOPPABLE TO COME. YOU JUST HAVE TO GO. Reporter: ALBERT, THE HIGHS AND THE LOWS ARE WORTH IT. THE ASPECT OF, LIKE, TALKING TO SOMEONE WHO IS SO IDEOLOGICALLY OPPOSITE TO YOU THAT THEY ARE JUST LIKE, GET OUT. SO IT IS DIFFICULT, BUT ON THE REVERSE, YOU HAVE PEOPLE WHO ARE ABSOLUTELY WITH YOU, THERE IS A FEELING OF COMMUNITY THAT IS BUILT WITH THOSE PEOPLE WHO STRONGLY IDENTIFY WITH WHAT YOU YOURSELF BELIEVE.
HEALTH, EDUCATION AND THE ECONOMY ARE TOP ISSUES FOR VOTERS IN THIS ELECTION. ADD IN THE DISTRIBUTION OF INCOME AND WEALTH IN THE US AND THEY ARE FOUR OF THE TOP TEN ACCORDING TO A RECENT GALLUP POLL. A DEMOCRATIC CANDIDATE SEEKING TO END THE GAP BETWEEN THE HAVE AND HAVE NOTES IS ANDREW YANG. LAUNCH A PILOT PROGRAM FOR YOUR INCOME PROPOSAL. SIMONE BOYCE MEETS YANG AND THE RECIPIENTS, INCLUDING ONE OF THE NEW HAMPSHIRE RESIDENTS. THIS IS TOO GOOD TO BE TRUE. THEN I RECEIVED THE DEPOSIT IN MY BANK ACCOUNT ON THE WAY TO WORK. I COLLECTED 34 NEW NOTEBOOKS FOR MY STUDENTS THAT DAY.
Reporter: THIS IS AN EXTRA THOUSAND DOLLARS IN YOUR BANK ACCOUNT EVERY MONTH. WITHOUT CONDITIONS. ANDREW YANG'S PRESIDENTIAL CAMPAIGN SCREENED HALF A MILLION APPLICANTS AND RANDOMLY PICKED THESE EIGHT TO TEST ITS SIGNATURE PICKS. THE DIVIDENDS OF LIBERTY. IT IS A UNIVERSAL BASIC INCOME PLAN THAT WOULD GIVE $1,000 A MONTH TO EACH ADULT OVER THE AGE OF 18. OUR COUNTRY IS RUN BY A SET OF SOFTWARE, IT DOESN'T CARE ABOUT ANYTHING. IT'S LIKE CAPITAL EFFICIENCY AND ECONOMIC OPTIMIZATION SOFTWARE, AND IN THEORY THE MECHANISM TO ADDRESS THAT IS THE FACT THAT WE LIVE IN A DEMOCRACY AND WE CAN REALLY MAKE CHANGES FOR THE BETTER.
BUT OUR DEMOCRACY NOW IS NOT WHAT IT ONCE WAS. WE ALL LOVE FREE MONEY. THEY SEEM HAPPY TO BE HERE. I WONDER WHY? BEAUTY IS, NUMBER ONE, SEEING THE DIFFERENCE IT MAKES IN PEOPLE'S LIVES. I MEAN, IT'S SO TOUCHING AND JOYFUL. BUT NUMBER TWO, HE SHOWS OTHER AMERICANS WHAT HE LOOKS LIKE IN REAL LIFE. Reporter: THROUGH A FEW SPEECHES, DEBATE APPEARANCES AND A MEET AND SHEET AT IOWA DINER, YANG HOPES TO CONVINCE AMERICA THAT THIS IS THE SOLUTION TO MANY OF OUR PROBLEMS SUCH AS INCOME INEQUALITY AND AUTOMATION JOB LOSSES . 25% OF AMERICAN JOBS ARE AT HIGH RISK OF BEING KILLED BY AUTOMATION, ACCORDING TO A BROOKINGS INSTITUTE STUDY.
HOW IS THIS $1,000 A MONTH REALLY MAKE A DIFFERENCE? HAS IT MADE A DIFFERENCE IN YOUR LIFE? THIS WILL GIVE ME A CUSHION TO GO OUT AND DO WHAT I WANT TO DO. I THINK THAT IS WHAT IS GOING TO HAPPEN. IF PEOPLE ARE LOSING THEIR JOBS, THEY ARE GOING TO HAVE THIS CUSHION WHERE AT LEAST THEY CAN STEP ON UNTIL SOMETHING COMES UP FOR THEM. Reporter: SO HOW DOES ANDREW YANG, AN EFFECTS ENTREPRENEUR TURNED PRESIDENTIAL HOPE PLAN TO PAY FOR THIS? RIGHT NOW YOUR CAMPAIGN IS PAYING OFF THESE RECIPIENTS OF THE LIBERTY DIVIDEND. HERE IS A GREAT IDEA.
IMPLEMENT A 10% VALUE TAX ON GOODS AND SERVICES. EVERYTHING BUT CLOTHES AND GROCERIES. IF WE MAKE AMAZON PAY ITS FAIR SHARE WITH GOOGLE FOR EVERY AD, FACEBOOK, UBER, ALL THESE GIANT TECH COMPANIES, WE CAN GENERATE HUNDREDS OF BILLIONS IN NEW REVENUE VERY, VERY QUICKLY. Reporter: YANG CLAIMS A VALUE ADDED TAX WOULD CAUSE A MINIMAL PRICE INCREASE ON ITEMS WE BUY AND USE EVERY DAY AND MANY OTHER COUNTRIES HAVE A SIMILAR TAX. MOST ECONOMISTS THINK IT WILL HIT CONSUMERS AND HIT THE POOR HARDEST. WHILE A SMALL-SCALE UBI PROGRAM EXISTS IN ALASKA, THE UNITED STATES HAS NEVER ATTEMPTED ANYTHING LIKE THIS AT THE NATIONAL LEVEL.
THERE ARE STILL MANY QUESTIONS ABOUT WHAT THAT WOULD LOOK LIKE. ISN'T IT HARD TO QUANTIFY HOW BIG INVESTMENT WE WOULD SEE FROM UNIVERSAL BASIC INCOME BECAUSE THIS HAS NOT BEEN REPRODUCED ON A LARGE SCALE? WELL, IT'S COMMON SENSE THAT IN A COUNTRY WHERE 78% OF US LIVE PAY TO PAY, THAT IF YOU PUT $1,000 A MONTH IN THE HANDS OF PEOPLE, MOST ARE GOING BACK INTO THE ECONOMY. Reporter: YANG'S WIN IS STILL A FAR CHANCE BASED ON CURRENT POLLS. HIS WILDLY SUPPORTING FAN BASE, THE YANG GANG, DOESN'T WANT TO HEAR THAT. WHAT HAPPENS TO THESE RECIPIENTS? WHAT DO YOU THINK OF WHEN YOU THINK OF ANDREW YANG AS A CANDIDATE?
I MEAN, DID YOU KNOW MUCH ABOUT HIM BEFORE THIS? NO, I REALLY DID NOT KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT HIM. I WAS MAINLY A SUPPORTER OF BERNIE SANDERS. Reporter: OK. AND I LIKE ANDREW BECAUSE HE WAS SIMILAR TO BERNIE AND THEN HE HAD IDEAS LIKE THIS, THIS DIVIDEND. Reporter: OBVIOUSLY YOU ARE IN A VERY IMPORTANT STATE IN NEW HAMPSHIRE. HAVE YOU THOUGHT ABOUT HOW YOU ARE GOING TO VOTE? I AM NOT SURE YET. WE ARE BACK. NOT A STRANGE ANALOG OF AL QAEDA OR ISIS. NOT SOMETHING FOREIGN THAT LOOKS LIKE SOMETHING WE HAVE BEEN FIGHTING WITH IN THE WAR ON TERROR.
IT IS FUNDAMENTALLY AS AMERICAN AS ANYTHING. AND IT IS AN EXISTENTIAL THREAT TO THE MULTIRACIAL, PLURISTIC I CAN, EQUAL AND OPEN DEMOCRACY FOR WHICH WE HAVE FIGHTED IN THIS COUNTRY SINCE PEOPLE HAVE BEEN DEATHED ON THE BATTLEFIELD IN A CIVIL WAR. BEV CAPTURED THE FUNDAMENTALS OF THE HUMAN BEING AND THE WAY IN WHICH WE CONSTITUTE OUR POLITICS. AND THE DANGER IS THAT IF OUR POLITICS BECOME TOO TRIBAL, THEN WE WILL LOSE THIS WAY OF SPEAKING. WHY IS THIS HAPPENING WITH CHRIS HAYES. SUBSCRIBE NOW. JUST LIKE IN IOWA, IT ALL COMES DOWN TO WHAT THE CANDIDATES SAID TO THEIR PLATFORMS AND WHAT THEY SAID THEY ARE GOING TO DO TO HELP THE RESIDENTS OF THE GRANITE STATE.
HERE THEY ARE IN THEIR OWN WORDS. ♪♪ SO MANY PEOPLE. ALL GOOD. WHERE DO I SIGN, BOSS? THERE IT GOES. TURN OFF THE LIGHTS. THIS IS A BIG DAY FOR ME. A DAY WHERE I AM OFFICIALLY IN THE RACE FOR PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES. I THINK WE HAVE AN EXCELLENT OPPORTUNITY TO WIN AGAIN HERE IN NEW HAMPSHIRE, TO DEFEAT THE MOST DANGEROUS PRESIDENT IN THE HISTORY OF THIS COUNTRY. EVERY DEMOCRAT SITTING IN THESE SEATS ACROSS ME IS MORE QUALIFIED AND MORE DECENT AND MORE PATRIOTIC THAN THE CRIMINAL RESIDING IN THE WHITE HOUSE OF THE UNITED STATES.
IT'S ABOUT TIME WE HOLD THIS CRIMINAL ANSWERED. WE NEED TO BUILD A BLUE WALL THAT BRINGS BACK THESE DEMOCRATS WITH INDEPENDENTS AND SOME MODERATE REPUBLICANS. WE BUILD A BLUE WALL AROUND THESE STATES AND MAKE DONALD TRUMP PAY FOR IT. AMERICANS ARE CONSIDERING PRESCRIPTION DRUG PRICES AND WONDERING HOW THEY ARE GOING TO BUY GROCERY, AND THE PRESIDENT HAS US ARGUING ABOUT BUYING GREENLAND. INCREASE THE FEDERAL MINIMUM WAGE TO AT LEAST $15 AN HOUR. HOW DO YOU KEEP IN EXCELLENT SHAPE? MY PROBLEM IS THAT I PROBABLY HAVE TOO MUCH ENERGY. SOMETIMES IT GETS ME IN TROUBLE. I DON'T DISAGREE WITH ANYTHING YOU SAID HERE.
GOOD. LET'S LEAVE IT HERE, BOB. YOU KNOW, WHEN MY HUSBAND SAYS THAT, I'M DONE. I'M LIKE, WELL, BABY, LET'S LEAVE IT. WELL. THEY SAID IF THE PRIMARY WAS TODAY, BIDEN WOULD GET THE NOMINATION BECAUSE MANY PEOPLE SAY THEY FIND A FEMALE CANDIDATE UNLIKEABLE. THAT'S NOT TRUE, IS IT? I THINK WE ARE VERY NICE. I WOULD BE THE MOST PRESIDENTPROGRESSIVE OF MY LIFE. I AM THE MOST PROGRESSIVE, PRO-INNOVATION GUY, I THINK. I AM THE ONE ON THE STAGE HAS PASSED OVER 100 BILL AS THE LEADING DEMOCRAT, LONGER THAN ANYONE ELSE IN CONGRESS. OUR CAMPAIGN IS THE CAMPAIGN THAT HAS THE COURAGE TO THINK BIG, NOT SMALL.
HE HAS THE COURAGE TO SAY THAT MAYBE THERE IS SOMETHING WRONG WHEN THREE PEOPLE AT THE TOP HAVE MORE WEALTH THAN AMERICAN SOCIETY. THIS IS OUR MOMENT IN HISTORY. THIS IS OUR TIME TO DREAM BIG AND FIGHT HARD. THANK YOU. THANK YOU SO MUCH, EVERYONE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, NEW HAMPSHIRE. THANK YOU SO MUCH, EVERYONE. THANK YOU FOR SPENDING TIME WITH US HERE AT NBC "NEWS NOW." I'M STEVE KORNACKI. UNTIL NEXT TIME. MICKEY MOUSE AGAINST THIS PRESIDENT WOULD HAVE A CHANCE. I EXACTLY WON THE COALITION IN NEW HAMPSHIRE AND THE COUNTRY. WE HAVE AN AGENDA THAT SPEAKS ABOUT THE NEEDS OF WORKING FAMILIES THROUGHOUT THE COUNTRY.
I HAVE THE BEST CHANCE OF BEATING DONALD TRUMP BECAUSE I'M GOING TO UNITE THE PARTY. THE ONLY ECONOMIC THING THAT HAS REALLY PRESERVED IS REDUCING TAXES ON CORPORATIONS AND THE RICH. MUSIC MEANS ONE THING. IT'S ELECTION NIGHT HERE ON NBC NEWS. GOOD NIGHT. I CAN CHUCK TODD WATCHING FROM OUR HEADQUARTERS IN NEW HAMPSHIRE. THE NATION'S FIRST 2020 PRESIDENTIAL PRIMARY IN NEW HAMPSHIRE HERE ONLY ON NBC "NEWS NOW." WE ARE PREPARING, WE BELIEVE POTENTIALLY FOR A THIRD NIGHT AND BELIEVE IT OR NOT, WE BELIEVE WE COULD GET ELECTION RESULTS TONIGHT. THAT WOULD BE FUN. TO MAKE A NIGHT OF ELECTIONS WITH RESULTS.
DEMOCRATS ARE RUNNING IN THIS CRUCIALLY IMPORTANT STATE. TO DETERMINE WHO WILL FACE PRESIDENT TRUMP IN THE GENERAL ELECTION THIS NOVEMBER. TONIGHT'S BIG QUESTION, WILL NEW HAMPSHIRE VOTERS START REDUCING THIS FIELD? WILL THERE BE CLARITY IN THIS COMPETITION INCREASING IMPACT? OR JUST MORE CONFUSION AFTER LAST WEEK'S IOWA CAUCUS DEBACULA. AT THIS TIME, MOST POLLS ARE CLOSED IN NEW HAMPSHIRE. WHICH MEANS WE ARE EXPECTING THE FIRST RESULTS AT ANY MINUTE. WE ARE ALSO LESS THAN AN HOUR FROM THE OFFICIAL SURVEY CLOSING TIME. NO CHARACTERIZATIONS OF US. THERE ARE NO CHARACTERIZATIONS COMING OUT OF ANY RESPONSIBLE MEDIA ORGANIZATION ON THAT FRONT BECAUSE SOME OF THESE TRAVELERS ARE STILL VOTING.
AND THAT TRAVELER VOTE, BOY, THAT COULD HAVE AN INTERESTING IMPACT ON WHAT WE ARE SEEING. WE ALREADY HAVE OUR FIRST LOOK INSIDE TONIGHT'S ELECTIONS. ACCORDING TO OUR NBC EXIT POLLS, THE VOTERS HERE ARE NOT AS LIBERAL AS IT WAS. IT DOES NOT MEAN YOU WILL NOT WIN TONIGHT. IT JUST MEANS THAT IT'S NOT GOING TO BE THE WAY IT WAS FOR HIM FOUR YEARS AGO. WE HAVE KASIE HUNT, CAPITOL HILL CORRESPONDENT. LET'S DO IT. MARK MURRAY, SENIOR POLITICS EDITOR AT NBC NEWS. AND FORMER HILLARY CLINTON CAMPAIGN ADVISOR ADRIENNE ELROD. ONE OF OUR NEWEST HOSTS JOSHUA JOHNSON.
WE HAVE A GREAT TEAM OF REPORTERS AT POLLING PLACES ALL OVER THE STATE. THE GREAT STORIES ARE GOING TO FOLLOW AND OF COURSE JOIN OUR TEAM OF ROAD WARRIORS ON THE GROUND. WE WILL BE TALKING ALL NIGHT WITH THEM, THE PARTY STRATEGISTS, THE SAME CAMPAIGNS. YOU WILL SEE ALL THE SPEECHES HERE. THIS IS ELECTION NIGHT FOR POLITICAL ADDICTS. SO LET'S GO TO THE LAST DEVELOPMENT OF TONIGHT, TONIGHT'S FEATURE, BERNIE SANDERS. SHAQUILLE BREWSTER MEETS SANDERS EARLIER TODAY. SHAQ, THEY HOPE TO WIN. THEY WANT TO WIN. AND THEY WANT US TO SAY THAT WINNING IS WINNING. THAT'S EXACTLY RIGHT, CHUCK, AND I REALLY HAD TO SAT WITH SENATOR SANDERS A LITTLE EARLIER TODAY AND HE SAID HE'S NERVOUS.
HE FEELS A LITTLE NERVOUS. IT'S STILL ELECTION DAY, BUT IN THE END IT FEELS GOOD. AND IF YOU LOOK AT THE INDICATORS WE'VE BEEN SEEING IN NEW HAMPSHIRE, IT'S CLEAR WHY THEY'RE STILL OPTIMISTIC ABOUT HIS CAMPAIGN. FIRST, THIS IS THE STATE HE WON IN 2016. HE WON IT EASILY LIKE WE TALK ABOUT WINNING HILLARY CLINTON ALL THE TIME. HE WILL NOT HAVE THAT RANGE TONIGHT AND NO ONE EXPECTS HIM TO HAVE THAT RANGE. HE IS A SENATOR OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD STATE. THEY FEEL LIKE PEOPLE KNOW HIM AND PROVIDE THAT IMPULSE TO TONIGHT'S RESULTS. SECOND, LOOK AT THE VOTES THAT ARE ON TONIGHT.
THE SURVEYS HAD IT AHEAD EVEN BEYOND THE MARGIN OF ERROR IN THE AVERAGE OF SURVEYS. THAT WAS RIDING THE MOMENTUM HE THINKS HE HAD LEAVING IOWA. YOU SAW MAYOR PETE MAKE A RACE FOR THAT FIRST PLACE AT ONE POINT. HE IS A LITTLE AGGRESSIVE WITH MAYOR PETE. WIN IT AGAIN TALKING ACT COLLECTING WITH MILLIONAIRES. THAT WAS A HELP FOR THEM. IN THE END WE APPROACH TO CONTINUE SEEING THE PARTICIPATION. WHAT'S GOING ON AND HOW MANY PEOPLE GO OUT TONIGHT. THROW. WELL SHAQ I KNOW THE PROBLEM OF YOUNG VOTERS THERE IS SOME CONCERN THAT THIS NEW LAW HERE MAY HAVE BOOSTED THEIR VOTE A LITTLE BIT AND I'M SURE THAT IS SOMETHING THE SANDERS CAMPAIGN IS NERVOUS AND WILL HAVE TO GET OUT OF TONIGHT THEY ARE NOT HAPPY WITH WHAT THEY ARE SEEING.
THAT'S HOW IT IS. LET'S GO TO PETE BUTTIGIEG. VAUGHN HILLYARD IS WITH PETE. THEY HAVE BEEN CONFIDENT ALL WEEK. HOW DO YOU FEEL RIGHT NOW? TALKING TO CAMPAIGN OFFICIALS, CHUCK, WHAT THEY WANT FROM TONIGHT IS TO FRAME THIS RACE AS A TWO PERSON RACE BETWEEN PETE BUTTIGIEG AND BERNIE SANDERS. AND THIS IS WHERE YOU WERE WATCHING THE RISE OF AMY KLOBUCHAR. LIKE THAT WILD CARD CANDIDATE HERE THIS WEEK. WHAT IMPACT DOES SHE HAVE ON PETE BUTTIGIEG'S ELECTION COUNT HERE AT THE END OF THE NIGHT? YOU KNOW, FROM WHAT WE HAVE OF THESE EXIT POLLS SO FAR, WE ARE NOT ABLE TO SEE THE BREAKDOWN OF -- FOR EVERY ONE OF THE CANDIDATES.
BUT WHEN YOU ARE LOOKING AT THE INDEPENDENT VOTERS IN THIS STATE, THAT WAS ONE OF THOSE GROUPS THAT TALK ABOUT THE UNREPORTED VOTERS IN THIS STATE. THE QUESTION TONIGHT IS HOW MANY WERE GOING TO SHOW UP AT THE POLLS HERE TODAY? FOUR YEARS AGO, THE POINT IS 2016 ON THE DEMOCRATIC SIDE, 40% OF THE DEMOCRATIC PARTICIPATION WERE INDEPENDENT VOTERS. THIS GIVES AROUND, IS 45%. THIS IS A CAMPAIGN THAT AFTER LEAVING IOWA, ESSENTIALLY IN A TIE WITH BERNIE SANDERS, THEY NEED A WIN OR A CLOSE TO SECOND PLACE FINISH SO THEY CAN MAKE THAT CASE TO THE REST OF THE COUNTRY THAT, YES, YOU KNOW, AMY KLOBUCHAR CAN STAY IN THIS RACE.
ELIZABETH WARREN CAN STAY IN THIS RACE. JOE BIDEN MAY BE IN SOUTH CAROLINA. BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY, IF YOU WANT SOMEONE OTHER THAN BERNIE SANDERS, ASK PETE BUTTIGIEG. HE CAN WIN. THROW. WELL, YOU NEED A MARKER TO SHOW IT AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE GOING TO FIND TONIGHT. ALRIGHT. IN FACT, WE'RE GOING TO THE PERSON WHO MAY BE IN THE PATH OF PETE BUTTIGIEG. MAKING THIS A TWO PERSON RACE. LET'S SEE WITH AMANDA GOLDEN. IT IS IN CONCORDANCE WITH THE KLOBUCHAR CAMPAIGN. AND I HAVE TO THINK, YOU KNOW, THEY HEAR THE BUZZ. FEEL THE NEWS.
I ASSUME THEY ARE PROBABLY THE MOST ANXIOUS OF ANY OF THE THREE MAIN CAMPAIGNS THIS -- RIGHT NOW. THEY ARE DEFINITELY ANXIOUS, CHUCK, BUT THEY FEEL GOOD WHEN I CHECKED UP WITH SENATOR KLOBUCHAR THIS MORNING. I ASKED HIM STRAIGHT HOW SUCCESS WOULD LOOK LIKE TONIGHT. AND SHE SAID AS LONG AS WE ARE HAPPY AND HAVING A GOOD AFTERNOON, THAT WAS A SUCCESS. THERE IS A LOT MORE OUTLETS COVERING IT TONIGHT THAN WHEN I STARTED COVERING IT IN JUNE. BUT THEY FEEL VERY GOOD. SHE HAS BEEN TRYING TO TARGET SOME OF THE SAME VOTERS AS BUTTIGIEG HAS.
ESSENTIALLY GOING OUT OF LEFT AND MODERATE REPUBLICANS, INDEPENDENT VOTERS WHO MAY BE MORE ATTRACTIVE TO HIS MESSAGE. ESSENTIALLY, WHAT FORMER VICE PRESIDENT JOE BIDEN... I THINK KLOBUCHAR AND HIS CAMPAIGN SEE A REAL OPPORTUNITY HERE TONIGHT. AND AMANDA, ANY INDICATIONS WHERE YOU'RE GOING NEXT? GOING TO SOUTH CAROLINA? SNOWFALL? SUPER-STATE TUESDAY? HAVE THEY MADE SOME KIND OF DIRECTIONS, WELL, WHERE TO AFTER THIS? YES, ABSOLUTELY. SO THEY ARE ALREADY LOOKING BEYOND NEW HAMPSHIRE WITH THE ANNOUNCEMENT THAT IT WILL BE IN NEVADA ON THURSDAY. AND THAT AD BUY, YOUR CAMPAIGN TELLS ME IT WILL ULTIMATELY BE A SEVEN-FIGURE AD BUY.
THEY REALLY GO ALL IN. LOTS OF STAFF FROM IOWA TO NEVADA IN TOTAL A LITTLE OVER 30 STAFF ON THE GROUND THERE. NOW, WITH AT LEAST ONE FIELD OFFICE. SO THEY ARE TAKING IT ONE STEP AT A TIME. AS TO WHETHER OR NOT IT IS FOR A CAMPAIGN, THEY ARE DEFINITELY LOOKING TO THE FUTURE. ALL GOOD. AMANDA GOLDEN, IT'S GOING TO BE INTERESTING TO CHECK THERE. THANK YOU. THE BIDEN CAMPAIGN IS ALREADY PREPARING FOR A POTENTIALLY DISAPPOINTING ENDING TONIGHT. THE CAMPAIGN ANNOUNCED TODAY THAT BIDEN WOULD NOT EVEN BE IN NEW HAMPSHIRE FOR THE RESULTS. HE SAID HE IS ALREADY IN SOUTH CAROLINA.
MARIANA HAS BEEN FOLLOWING THE BIDEN CAMPAIGN. WE HAVE ANOTHER REPORTER IN SOUTH CAROLINA WHERE HE IS TONIGHT. HOW MUCH DID BIDEN'S DEPARTURE IN WHAT APPEARS TO BE A VERY QUIET BALLROOM YOU'RE IN RIGHT NOW, MARIANA? YES, VERY QUIET HERE RIGHT NOW. OF COURSE, THE DOORS HAVE NOT OPENED YET, BUT THERE ARE NOT THAT MANY PEOPLE WAITING OUTSIDE AT A TIME THAT COULD BASICALLY ENCAPSULATE THE MOOD AND SURPRISE A LOT OF VOTERS IS BIDEN'S EARLY DEPARTURE. ON HIS LAST STOP HERE, HE WENT TO A POLLING LOCATION AND A VOTER ENTHUSIASTOUSLY TOLD JILL BIDEN THAT I WILL BE AT BIDEN'S HEADQUARTERS TONIGHT.
YOU'RE GOING TO BE THERE? I'M VERY EXCITED TO SEE YOU. AND HE SAID NO, I WON'T ACTUALLY BE THERE, WHICH SURPRISED THAT VOTER. THAT HAS BEEN MORE OR LESS THE MOOD OF TODAY. YEAH. THAT HAS BEEN THE MOOD TODAY. MANY SUPPORTERS KEEP COMING OUT TRYING TO SEE BIDEN WHERE THEY CAN. LOTS OF SUPPORTERS AT THESE POLLING PLACES AND IF THEY SEE IT THEY VERY EXCITED AND HAPPY AND GLAD TO SEE IT. HOWEVER, WE HAVE NOT SEEN MUCH OF THAT MOMENTUM HERE. BIDEN, THE FIRST DAY HE LANDED IN NEW HAMPSHIRE, SAID I AM VERY HAPPY TO LEAVE IOWA.
I'M GLAD TO BE HERE. BUT OF COURSE WE SAW IT RUN SO QUICKLY TO SOUTH CAROLINA HERE EARLIER TODAY. SURPRISING NOT ONLY THE PRESS CORPS BUT AS I MENTIONED, THE PEOPLE HERE ON THE GROUND. IT REALLY SHOWS YOU HOW THE CAMPAIGN IS THINKING. IT IS -- IT'S STILL A LITTLE UNCERTAINTY GOING FORWARD. MARIANA, ARE THE DOORS OPEN YET? DID THE DOORS TO THAT BALLROOM OPEN? NOT YET. THERE IS -- OKAY. ALRIGHT. SO IT'S AN EMPTY BALLROOM BECAUSE THE DOORS HAVE NOT OPENED. IT'S STILL AN EMPTY BALLROOM. THE INTERNET DOESN'T HAVE TO GO -- OK. ALRIGHT. I HAVE TO SAY WE WERE A LITTLE SHOCKED BY THE EMPTY BALLROOM HERE.
BUT FAIR ENOUGH. MARIANA, BIDEN'S HEADQUARTERS IN NEW HAMPSHIRE WITHOUT THE BIDENS. THANK YOU. AND NOW, THE FIFTH CAMPAIGN WE ARE GOING TO CHECK WITH AND IT IS THE WARREN CAMPAIGN. ALI VITALI. ALI'S CAMPAIGN, ELIZABETH WARREN HAS BEEN LOST IN THIS CONVERSATION FOR THE LAST WEEK. IN THE DEBATE, AMY KLOBUCHAR TAKEN ON BUTTIGIEG. AND SHE FADED A LITTLE IN THE BACKGROUND. FINISHED THIRD IN IOWA. BUT THAT WAS LOST IN BIDEN'S PERFORMANCE. WHERE? WHAT IS THE MOOD OF WARREN'S CAMPAIGN RIGHT NOW? CHUCK, I FEEL LIKE YOU AND I HAVE BEEN TALKING ABOUT THIS ALL WEEK. WHERE IS ELIZABETH WARREN GOING NEXT?
AND WE HAVE IT ALL IN ONE PLACE THE THREAD I'VE BEEN REPORTING ON ALL WEEK, WHICH IS THAT THE CAMPAIGN IS LOOKING TO MAKE A -- TO PLAY IN THIS PROTRACTED PRIMARY. THEY BELIEVE THAT AS LONG AS NOBODY STRIKES WITH THIS THING, AS LONG AS WE KEEP SEEING RESULTS FROM THESE EARLY CONTESTS, THEY MAY BE ABLE TO FOLLOW THE SCHEDULE, LET THE FIELD SELL, AND THEN EVENTUALLY CAPITALIZE ON THERE. FOR NOW, THEY HOPE TO PROSPER IN THE CHAOS OF WHAT WAS IOWA AND THEY HOPE IT IS NEW HAMPSHIRE. ON THE OTHER HAND, WHEN TALKING TO NEW HAMPSHIRE VOTERS, THEY HOPE THEY CAN GIVE SOMEONE WHO LEAVES THIS STATE A WIN.
BUT WARREN REALLY BASED ON THE IDEA THAT SOME CANDIDATES WILL MAKE SUPER TUESDAY. FOR THEM, IF THERE ARE NO SEISMIC CHANGES IN THIS RACE, THEY FEEL LIKE IT WILL GET TO WARREN, BIDEN AND SANDERS ON SUPER TUESDAY. WE ALSO KNOW THAT MICHAEL BLOOMBERG IS VERY FACTORED ON SUPER TUESDAY. THAT'S LIKE WHEN WE TESTED THIS IDEA OF RUNNING A PARALLEL PRIMARY THROUGH SUPER TUESDAY. A QUITE EXPENSIVE BET, BUT I AM INTERESTED TO KNOW IF IT WILL BE WORTH IT. ELIZABETH WARREN, WE MENTIONED THAT YOU WERE A LITTLE LOST IN THE MASS. WHAT REALLY IMPACTS IS HOW THEY RAISE FUNDS.
WE KNOW THEY ARE DOING IT WITH BASE DONATIONS. TO DO IT WITH GROWING DONATIONS, YOU NEED TO BE IN THE CONVERSATION. SO ONE OF THE THINGS WE ARE WATCHING IS THE WAY THEY ARE CHANGING THEIR AD BUYING STRATEGY. HE JUST GOT OFF THE PHONE WITH A CAMPAIGN OFFICIAL WHO TOLD ME THEY ARE CANCELING THE REST OF THEIR SOUTH CAROLINA TV AD PURCHASE AND INSTEAD OF PUTTING IT ON RADIO AND PRINT IN NORTH CAROLINA AND NEVADA AND MAINE. AND WHERE THEY THINK THEY CAN PLAY FORWARD, CHUCK. VERY INTERESTING ON THE MAIN BEACH. MAINE AND MASSACHUSETTS ARE SUPER-TUESDAY STATES.
OBVIOUSLY, SHE WOULD LIKE TO ACHIEVE MORE THAN JUST WIN HER HOME STATE ON SUPER TUESDAY. VERY INTERESTING REPORT HERE. GOOD JOB, ALI VITALI. ALRIGHT. LET ME GO TO ONE OF THE FIRST POLLING PLACES THAT HAVE ALREADY CLOSED. BEDFORD, NEW HAMPSHIRE. SOME POLLS CLOSE AT 8:00 P.M. SOME PLACES CLOSE AT 7:00 P.M. CHRIS JANSING, YOU'RE IN BEDFORD. IT IS THOUGHT THAT BEDFORD IS A PLACE THE MORE MODERATE CANDIDATES WILL DO WELL. WHAT DID YOU HEARD FROM THE VOTERS THERE? WHAT DID YOU SEE ALL DAY? WELL, IT IS VERY INTERESTING BECAUSE THERE WAS A CONSTANT FLOW OF VOTERS ALL DAY.
BUT NEVER ARRIVED, WHAT I WOULD CALL, VERY BUSY. AND I'VE BEEN HERE FOUR YEARS AGO AND THERE WERE MANY TIMES WHEN I WAS OVER-BUSY. YOU CAN SEE THEY ARE ONLY DOING THE FINAL TABULATIONS HERE. BUT FOUR YEARS AGO, I WANT TO SAY IT'S A LITTLE APPLES AND ORANGES BECAUSEYOU HAD TWO COMPETED CAREERS BUT 64% OF VOTERS VOTEED IN THE PRIMARY HERE AND WHEN I TALKED TO LONG-TIME POLL OBSERVERS, THEY WERE ESTIMATING BETWEEN 60-62%. NOW THIS IS RALPH. HE HAS BEEN DOING THIS FOR 25 YEARS. THE OLD WAY USING A CALCULATOR. FINAL NUMBER, 41%, CORRECT, RALPH? 41% SO THEY HAVE GOED FROM 64% TO 41%.
A COUPLE OF REMARKS AFTER SPEAKING TO LITERALLY DOZENS, DOZENS OF VOTERS HERE. NUMBER ONE, THERE ARE A LOT OF REPUBLICANS HERE. THERE IS NO LARGE REPUBLICAN PARTICIPATION. BUT WHERE WE DO SEEM TO SEE GREATER PARTICIPATION IS AMONG NON-MEMBERS. AND I DIDN'T HEARD THIS PERSONALLY, BUT SEVERAL ELECTION EMPLOYERS TOLD ME A LOT OF PEOPLE TOLD ME I WENT TO GET A DEMOCRATIC BALLOT BUT THEY DECIDED I WAS GOING TO VOTE LONG AGO FOR DONALD TRUMP IN THE FALL. BUT MAYBE THE BIG HEADLINE HERE IS FROM ALL THOSE VOTERS, I WOULD SAY BETWEEN 50 AND 60% TOLD ME THEY DECIDED IN THE LAST 24 HOURS.
I HAVE A COUPLE OF THOSE PEOPLE HERE WHO WERE NICE ENOUGH TO STAY. HELLO. WHAT TIME DID YOU DECIDE WHO YOU WERE GOING TO VOTE FOR? 1:00 a.m. m. LAST NIGHT. 1 -- 1:00 AM. YOU STARTED WITH BIDEN. YES. AND YOU LEFT IT, WHY? I WAS VERY THRILLED FOR PETE. GOOD. BUT YOU DIDN'T VOTE FOR PETE IN THE END. NO. I PLANNED IT STARTING YESTERDAY. BUT THEN I WAS LOOKING AT THE RESULTS OF WHAT IS HIS NAME KNOX OUT THERE ON THE CANADA BORDER, NORTH OF NEW HAMPSHIRE WHERE THERE ARE THREE SMALL CITIES. AND THERE WERE TEN VOTES AND FOUR OF THEM WERE FOR A CANDIDATE.
I SAID, YOU KNOW, I THINK THAT'S THE CANDIDATE I WANT TO GO FOR, TOO. SO YOU ENDED UP VOTED FOR AMY KLOBUCHAR BECAUSE SHE GOT FOUR VOTES ON ONE OF THOSE MIDNIGHT POLL SITES. IT WASN'T THE REASON, BUT IT WAS FUNNY BECAUSE I WAS LEANING TOWARDS AMY. THANK YOU SO MUCH TO BOTH OF YOU. I PROMISED THAT I WOULD NOT TALK TO HER BUT I ALSO DECIDED AT THE LAST MOMENT. THE OTHER REALLY INTERESTING THING I'LL LEAVE YOU, CHUCK, IS THAT WHEN HE WAS TALKING AND I ASKED HIM WHY, RIGHT, SOME OF THEM SAID I'M NOT VERY SURE.
FASCINATING. BECAUSE THEY KNOW FOR WHAT PART OF THE PARTY THEY WANT TO VOTE. THEY JUST DID NOT SEEM AS PASSIONATE ABOUT CANDIDATES, WHICH IS SOMETHING WE ARE SEEING IN THE EXIT POLLS. YOU KNOW, SOME OF THOSE VOTERS KNOW WHAT THEY WANT IN A CANDIDATE. AND THEY -- AND IT SOUNDS LIKE THE THREE CANDIDATES THAT ARE IN THAT PROFILE, THAT VOTER WAS JUST HESITATING BETWEEN. HE MAY BE THE NEW HAMPSHIRE PRIMARY VOTER TO TELL US THE STORY OF THIS RACE. YES. THE OTHER THING THAT SURPRISED ME VERY QUICKLY IS FOUR VOTERS TOLD ME, INDEPENDENTLY, THAT THEY DID NOT WANT TO VOTE FOR A SENATOR BECAUSE THEY WERE WORRIED ABOUT HAVING THE SENATE.
SO EVEN THOUGH EVERYONE CONSIDERED THE SENATORS AS THEIR FAVORITES, THEY DID NOT VOTE FOR THEM. WELL, THAT'S INTERESTING. THERE IS A DEMOCRATIC GOVERNOR IN MINNESOTA. THERE IS A REPUBLICAN GOVERNOR IN MASSACHUSETTS. ANYWAY, CHRIS JANSING IN BEDFORD. THANK YOU SO MUCH. WE ARE GOING TO TRYMAINE LEE IN NEW HAMPSHIRE. HE IS AT A POLLING PLACE THERE AND, TRYMAINE, I HAD A LONG TIME OBSERVER FROM NEW HAMPSHIRE TOLD ME THIS IS WHAT HE WANTED TO SEE FIRST. SHOW ME KEEN AND HE WILL HAVE A GOOD IDEA OF HOW GOOD NIGHT BERNIE SANDERS IS GOING TO HAVE. I TELL YOU, CHUCK, AS YOU CAN SEE THEY'RE CLEANING UP BEHIND ME.
AS THE FAMOUS FRANCISCO SAYS, EVERYTHING IS OVER HERE EXCEPT THE SCREAMING. AS YOU MENTIONED, VERY IMPORTANT BECAUSE THERE ARE ONLY 19,000 PEOPLE HERE. AND THREE SCHOOLS. SO IT'S A MAJORITY OF COLLEGE STUDENTS, YOU KNOW, VOTING DISTRICT. AND PEOPLE HAVE BEEN ARRIVING ALL DAY FROM STATE COLLEGE AND OTHER UNIVERSITIES. And I talked to a bunch of them and while they were excited, a lot of them made a decision in the last few days. THEY SAY THAT ALL THE CANDIDATES HAVE INVESTED NOT ONLY TIME AND RESOURCES BUT ALSO MONEY AND EFFORT IN DRIVING VOTING HERE AT KING. I WANT TO BRING A SOphomore FROM KING STATE COLLEGE NAMED MAGGIE PHILLIPS.
MAGGIE, WE TALK A LOT ABOUT THE YOUTH VOTE. AND IN THE LAST WEEKS, ALL THE CANDIDATES HAVE BEEN HERE. HAVE YOU SEEN THAT IT AFFECTS YOUR COMPANIONS AND UNIVERSITY FELLOWS AND HOW THEY ARE GOING OUT TO VOTE? YES, ABSOLUTELY. I MEAN, WHEN CANDIDATES COME OUT AND YOU SEE IT POSTED EVERYWHERE, THERE IS DEFINITELY PARTICIPATION. THERE IS DEFINITELY A LOT OF TALK. AND ALSO, COLLEGE STUDENTS CAN GET AN IDEA OF WHO IS GOING TO DO BETTER AND WHO IS GOING TO DO WORSE DEPENDING ON PARTICIPATION. YOU BROUGHT MOST OF YOUR FRIENDS HERE. I DID IT. YEAH. YOUTH VOTE IS VERY IMPORTANT.
PEOPLE MY AGE ARE NOW MAKING UP THE LARGEST BLOCK OF VOTES, SO WE REALLY HAVE THE POWER TO CHANGE THIS AND THIS IS NO TIME TO SIT DOWN. BERNIE WON IN 2016. WHO DID YOU VOTE FOR AND WHY? IN 2016 I COULD NOT VOTE. BUT TODAY, VOTE BERNIE SANDERS. BECAUSE? BECAUSE HE IS A HERO OF THE WORKING CLASS. AND IF BERNIE IS NOT THE NOMINEE, ARE YOU GOING TO VOTE FOR WHOEVER IS THE DEMOCRAT? I HAVE TUNNEL VISION ON -- ON BERNIE SANDERS RIGHT NOW. I WILL NOT VOTE FOR A CANDIDATE WHO DOES NOT SUPPORT THE GREEN NEW DEAL AND SOME OTHER RULES BUT WE NEED CHANGE AND WE NEED IT NOW.
THANK YOU SO MUCH. THAT IS THE WORD. IF IT'S NOT BERNIE, THEN THERE WILL BE A LOT OF PEOPLE SCRATCHING THEIR HEADS. BUT MANY PEOPLE TALK EVERY DAY ABOUT HOW IMPORTANT KING IS, THE YOUNG VOTE WAS CRITICAL. YES. TRYMAINE, LIKE I SAID, KING IS A BIG, BIG, BIG DEAL FOR THE SANDERS CAMPAIGN. TRYMAINE LEE IN KING THERE. SO COME ON FRIENDS NOW THE REAL RESULTS ARE COMING LIKE WE SAID, KASIE HUNT. WE HAVE RESULTS. FIRST OF ALL, LATEST NEWS. NEW HAMPSHIRE VOTE COUNT AND DELIVERY. IT'S AMAZING. WE SPEND SO MANY HOURS IN IOWA WITH NONE OF THIS INFORMATION.
EVERYONE IS IN TRIPLE DIGITS HERE. NOTHING TOO MUCH TO DO HERE. MARK MURRAY, THE STORY OF PARTICIPATION. YES. YOU KNOW, YOU SAW IT. BEDFORD -- BEDFORD IS A WELCOMING PART OF THIS AREA. THERE IS NO REASON NOT TO COME OUT AND VOTE. FOR ANY REASON, AT SOME TIME, DEMOCRATS HAVE TO GET NERVOUS ABOUT THIS. IF THIS PARTICIPATION IS NOT WHAT YOU THOUGHT IT WOULD BE. YES. OF COURSE, WE PROBABLY ARE NOT GOING TO KNOW THE TURNOUT STORY UNTIL TOMORROW BECAUSE ABOUT 10% OF THE VOTES ARE NOT COUNTED UNTIL VERY, VERY LATE. BUT THE NUMBER WE ARE GOING TO SEE IS 290,000.
THAT WAS THE RECORD SET IN 20 -- FOR A DEMOCRATIC PRIMARY. NOT THE WHOLE. CORRECT. THE NEW HAMPSHIRE SECRETARY OF STATE, A WELL-KNOWN FIGURE, HAS BEEN VERY ACCURATE ABOUT NEW HAMPSHIRE'S INVOLVEMENT. HE BELIEVES THAT HE WILL OVERCOME 2008 ON THE DEMOCRATIC SIDE. SO WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO SEE AND WE'LL BE LOOKING THROUGH THOSE NUMBERS TOMORROW MORNING. ADRIENNE, HAS IT MADE YOU A LITTLE NERVOUS? STILL SOME EXCUSES ABOUT IOWA. OH, THE ACCUSATION HEARING. LOOK, THE PARTICIPATION IS LESS THAN IN 2008, EVEN 2016, THAT'S NOT GOOD FOR US. BUT AGAIN, IT'S EARLY. I AM OPTIMISTIC. ALL GOOD. SO WE ARE GETTING THOSE EARLY RESULTS AS YOU CAN SEE.
THEY ARE VERY EARLY. 1 IN. NOT READY TO FEATURE YET. WE GO WHERE KATY TUR IS AND I THINK THOSE POLLS ARE STILL OPEN. NASHWA, HOME TO SOME TRAVELERS FROM BOSTON, LET'S SAY. SO IS THE VOTE CENTER CLOSED? I guess it's all around you. SOME PLACES ARE STILL OPEN. WHAT DO YOU HAVE, KATY? ACTUALLY IT'S STILL OPEN. 40 MORE MINUTES FOR THIS SWEAR. THERE HAS BEEN A CONSTANT FLOW OF PEOPLE ALL NIGHT. IT JUST STARTED SLOWING DOWN A COUPLE MINUTES AGO RIGHT BEFORE YOU CAME TO ME. AND THEY ALL LEFT. BUT THERE ARE STILL SOME -- JUST JOKING -- THERE ARE STILL SOME VOTERS WHO ARE PICKING UP THEIR BALLOTS.
WILL VOTE. IT IS EMPTY RIGHT NOW. BUT ALL NIGHT, THERE WERE NEW VOTERS REGISTERING TO VOTE. I'M GOING TO BE CURIOUS, AT LEAST HERE IF NOT WIDERLY ACROSS THE STATE, HOW MANY NEW VOTERS REGISTERED BECAUSE WE SAW A LOT OF THEM HERE TONIGHT. SO FAR, THE TURNOUT HERE IS BASICALLY ON PAIR WITH WHAT THEY EXPECTED. MAY BE A LITTLE MORE THAN EXPECTED. WE ARE NOT ALLOWED TO TALK TO ANYONE INSIDE, SO WE ARE GOING OUT TO SEE IF THERE IS ANYONE STAYING OUTSIDE. CROSS YOUR FINGERS. IT IS WET AND RAINY. SHE IS COMING IN SO I CAN'T ASK HER WHO VOTES FOR.
LET'S GO A SECOND TO SEE IF SOMEONE CAN GET OUT. YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT PEOPLE'S INABILITY TO CHOOSE WHICH CANDIDATE THEY WANTED TO VOTE FOR. I HAVE BEEN TALKING TO MANY PEOPLE WHO SAID THEY MADE THE DECISION AT THE LAST MINUTE. IT IS SOMETHING OF A PARALYSIS OF CHOICE. MANY DIFFERENT OPTIONS. AND WHEN THEY LOOK AT EVERYONE AVAILABLE TO VOTE, THEY ARE TRYING TO DECIDE WHO IS GOING TO BE MOST ELIGIBLE FOR DONALD TRUMP. AND THAT KIND OF GOT YOU FROZEN IN THEIR TRACKS. TRYING TO FIND OUT IF HE IS A JOE BIDEN BUT THEN HE STARTED NOT DOING VERY GOOD IN IOWA AND THE POLLS DIDN'T LOOK SO GOOD FOR HIM IN NEW HAMPSHIRE.
AMY KLOBUCHAR, WHO DID VERY WELL IN THE DISCUSSION ON FRIDAY. I TALKED TO MANY PEOPLE WHO WENT INTO THIS POLLING PLACE, INCLUDING THE ONE IN BEDFORD, WHO SAID THEY LIKED HER PERFORMANCE IN THE DEBATE AND MADE THE DECISION TO VOTE FOR HER ON FRIDAY OR EVEN LAST NIGHT, UNTIL THIS MORNING. BERNIE SANDERS, HOWEVER, MOST OF HIS VOTERS HAVE LIKED HIM FOR A LONG TIME. A LOT OF THEM, SINCE 2016. CHUCK, I LIKE THIS. IT'S LIKE WALKING INTO THE CAFÉ VERSAILLES IN MIAMI, OPENING THE MENU AND TRYING TO DECIDE WHAT TO ORDER. THERE ARE TOO MANY OPTIONS. THEREFORE, SOME DEMOCRATS SAY IT IS HARD TO MAKE A DECISION.
THEY ARE GOING TO VOTE FOR WHOM THE DEMOCRATIC NOMINEE IS. AND SOME OF THEM JUST WANT THE PARTY TO MAKE A DECISION FOR THEM. GIVE ME THE PREFIX FOOD IS WHAT YOU'RE SAYING. JUST TELL ME: I WILL CHOOSE MY DESSERT AND THAT'S IT. I HAVE YOU. KATY TUR IN NASHWA FOR US WITH A LITTLE MENU INDECISION. MUCH MORE IS COMING. WE ALREADY HAVE RESULTS. THERE IS MORE AHEAD. WE HAVE MORE EXIT POLLS. TELL YOU EVEN MORE ABOUT THIS ELECTORATE. THAT COMES. POLLS CLOSE AT THE BEGINNING OF THE HOUR. WE HOPE TO BE ABLE TO HAVE A CHARACTERIZATION OF WHAT KIND OF NIGHT WE ARE ON WHEN THAT HAPPENS.
YOU ARE WATCHING NBC'S SPECIAL COVERAGE OF THE NEW HAMPSHIRE PRESIDENTIAL PRIMARY ONLY ON NBC "NEWS NOW." ♪♪ WE HAVE THE FUNDAMENTAL OF THE HUMAN BEING AND THEN WE HAVE THE FORM IN WHICH WE CONSTITUTE OUR POLITICS. AND THE DANGER IS IF OUR POLITICS GETS TOO TRIBAL, YOU WILL LOSE -- WHY IS THIS HAPPENING WITH CHRIS HAYES? SUBSCRIBE NOW. SUBSCRIBE NOW. WE'RE BACK WITH NBC NEWS' SPECIAL COVERAGE OF THE NEW HAMPSHIRE PRESIDENTIAL PRIMARY. THE RESULTS ARE COMING IN. WE ARE IN THE 3% OF REPORTS, I THINK. MY PANEL IS WITH ME NOW. PARTNER HERE FOR THE NIGHT, KASIE HUNT.
CAPITOL HILL CORRESPONDENT. SENIOR POLITICAL EDITOR MARK MURRAY. ADRIENNE ELROD. I HAVE JOSHUA JOHNSON, WHO IS HOLDING THE FORT IN NEW YORK. AND FORMER OBAMA CAMPAIGN MANAGER AND NOW NBC NEWS POLITICAL ANALYST DAVID. SO I WANTED TO HAVE A CONVERSATION GUYS I'M GOING TO POP HERE. I'M LUCKY TO BE ABLE TO GET ON THE SCREEN. HELLO. AND WE'RE GOING TO DO SOME -- WE'RE GOING TO DO SOME -- WE'RE GOING TO DO SOME CHECKS HERE ON WHAT WE SAW. I THINK THE MOST INTERESTING THING IN HOW THESE ELECTORATES HAVE CHANGED: HERE IS THE IDEOLOGY OF THIS ELECTORATE, KASIE HUNT. 41%, SOMETHING LIBERAL. 21%, VERY LIBERAL.
LET ME SHOW YOU THE IDEOLOGY OF 2016. VERY LIBERAL, 26. LAST TIME, THIS TIME, 21. THAT FIVE POINT DIFFERENCE, IT'S NOT GOOD, IT'S NOT GREAT NEWS IF YOU'RE BERNIE SANDERS. NO- NO. AND I... I THINK, YOU KNOW, THE BIG QUESTION I THINK IS FORMING TONIGHT IS WHERE DOES THAT NEW HUB OF MODERATES/CONSERVATIVES GO? I MEAN, I THINK THERE ARE A LOT OF QUESTIONS TONIGHT, WAS AMY KLOBUCHAR'S IMPULSE REAL? WHERE WAS PETE BUTTIGIEG IN THE MIX? AND THEREFORE, I THINK HOW THOSE... THOSE VOTERS IN THAT MODERATE/CONSERVATIVE BLOC BREAK DOWN POTENTIALLY ANSWERS THOSE QUESTIONS. AND YOU ARE RIGHT. I THINK IT'S OBVIOUSLY PRETTY CLEAR THAT THERE IS A VERY DIFFERENT FIELD THAN IN 2016 WHEN BERNIE SANDERS REALLY GOT AWAY WITH THIS.
ADRIENNE ELROD, THE WAY YOU WON THE PRIMARIES IN 2016 WAS BY WINNING, DOMINATING IN THE MODERATE CONSERVATIVE VOTE. YES. AND YOU WON THE PRIMARIES. SO 79% OF THIS ELECTORATE IS BASICALLY IN THE MODERATE AND SOMEWHAT LIBERAL LANE. FOUR YEARS AGO, IT WAS 74. AGAIN, HERE'S THAT FIVE POINT DIFFERENCE. WHAT DOES THIS TELL YOU ABOUT WHAT THE PARTY WANTS? WELL, I THINK THAT MEANS THE PARTY DOES WORRY ABOUT BEING TOO LIBERAL. THERE IS SUCH A CONCERN AMONG VOTERS ABOUT GETTING THE RIGHT HORSE IN THIS RACE. SEE THIS TIME AND AGAIN. I THINK THAT'S ONE OF THE REASONS WHY THE POLLS IN SO MANY STATES -- YOU KNOW, SIGNIFICANTLY UNDECIDED.
THERE ARE MANY UNDECIDED VOTERS. THERE ARE MANY UNDECIDED VOTERS UNTIL THAT LAST DEBATE WHERE AMY KLOBUCHAR GIVEN A VERY STRONG PERFORMANCE. THAT'S WHY PEOPLE ARE CONCERNED. THEY WANT TO CHOOSE THE RIGHT HORSE. YOU KNOW, WE ARE FIGHTING TWO IDEOLOGIES IN OUR PARTY. IN FACT, THE IDEOLOGY OF ONE, MORE THAN BERNIE SANDERS, PART OF THE WING -- THE PARTY WANTS TO DO -- WANTS TO MOVE FORWARD. WANTS TO IMPLEMENT THE GREEN NEW DEAL. THEN WE HAVE THE MORE MODERATE WING OF THE PARTY WANTING TO MAINTAIN THE STATUS QUO AND SIMPLY IMPROVE THE CURRENT POLICIES. AND THAT IS ONE OF THE BATTLES IN THE HEART AND SOUL OF THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY RIGHT NOW.
DOES IT SURPRISE YOU THAT ONLY ONE IN FIVE DEMOCRATIC VOTERS HERE CALL THEMSELVES VERY LIBERAL? IT WAS A LOWER NUMBER THAN I EXPECTED. NO, BUT I'M ALSO CURIOUS AND I DON'T THINK THERE'S A WAY TO KNOW THIS, I'M CURIOUS ABOUT WHETHER VOTERS TELL US IF THEY ARE LIBERAL OR WANT TO LOOK LIBERAL. BASED ON THE RESULTS OF THE SURVEY. I MEAN I MADE A CALL ON MY FACEBOOK PAGE ASKING IF YOU ARE IN NEW HAMPSHIRE TELL MEWHO ARE YOU AND WHO DID YOU VOTE FOR AND WHY? AND A NUMBER OF PEOPLE SAID PETE BUTTIGIEG, ELIZABETH WARREN.
ONE PERSON, LEXIE WHO IS IN SOUTH NEW HAMPSHIRE, SAID SHE VOTEED SOLIDLY FOR ELIZABETH WARREN, SUPPORTED ELIZABETH WARREN FROM THE BEGINNING. JOE BIDEN SAYS IT WAS A DIFFICULT SECOND. BUT IN TERMS OF ELIGIBILITY, I DO THINK HE MAY END UP BEING THE NOMINATE BECAUSE HE MAY ATTRACT VOTERS IN SOUTH CAROLINA, GEORGIA, PENNSYLVANIA AND OHIO. AND THEY NEED SOME OF THE OBAMA TRUMP AND REPUBLICAN CHALLENGE VOTERS. SO WHAT I AM WONDERING IS WHETHER OR NOT THESE VOTERS ARE TELLING US THAT THEY ARE LESS LIBERAL. OR THEY ARE CONCERNED ABOUT BEING ABLE TO WIN BACK TRUMP VOTERS. THAT -- THAT SEEMS TO BE THE ONE -- TRUMP SEEMS TO HAVE THE MOST POWER IN THIS PRIMARY RIGHT NOW.
NOT NECESSARILY DEMOCRATIC VOTERS AND MAYBE BECAUSE OF THAT. I DON'T DISAGREE, ESPECIALLY IN THESE EARLY STATES, THEY THINK VERY STRATEGICALLY. DAVID, PUT ON THE SCREEN THE IMPORTANCE OF THE MOST RECENT DEBATE IN YOUR VOTE TODAY. 48% OF THE ELECTORATE CALLED IT AN IMPORTANT FACTOR AND 16% SAID THE MOST IMPORTANT FACTOR. YOU WERE ON THE WRONG SIDE OF THE TIME OF THE DEBATE THAT COST YOU THE NEW HAMPSHIRE ELEMENTARY. DO YOU HAVE FLASHBACKS? THAT, AMONG MANY OTHER THINGS, YES. YEAH. I AM HAVING FLASHBACKS. BUT I SAY THIS, CHUCK. AND, YOU KNOW, YOU ARE OBVIOUSLY, YOU KNOW, MODERATING NEXT WEEK'S DEBATE.
I THINK IT WILL BE IMPORTANT. PROBABLY NOT AS IMPORTANT AS NEW HAMPSHIRE. PEOPLE IN NEW HAMPSHIRE REALLY TUNE IN. THE SOUTH CAROLINA DEBATE HAS HISTORICALLY BEEN IMPORTANT, NOT THAT IT IS LESS IMPORTANT. THAT'S THE ONE THING I REALLY WANT TO REINFORCE TONIGHT. YOU KNOW, BERNIE SANDERS WINS, THAT'S WHAT WE WAIT FOR. IF HE GETS BOTHERED, THAT WILL DAMAGE HIM BUT HE HAS DURABILITY TO KEEP GOING. MAYOR PETE AND AMY KLOBUCHAR LEAVE NEW HAMPSHIRE WITH MOMENTUM, THEY WOULD RATHER HAVE IT THAN NOT. BUT THE QUESTION IS HOW DO YOU ORGANIZE THE TYPE OF RESOURCES FOR THE CAMPAIGN?
YOU KNOW, THEY ARE NOT GOING TO SPEND TIME IN ARIZONA OR MISSOURI OR TEXAS OR CALIFORNIA BEYOND AIRPORT STOPS BASICALLY. THEY DON'T HAVE THE MONEY. SO THIS IS WHERE I THINK BERNIE SANDERS STILL IS, BECAUSE YOU KNOW HE WILL GET 20, 25, 27% OF THE VOTE, MORE LIKELY, UNLESS HE COMPLETELY COLLAPSES BETWEEN NOW AND SUPER TUESDAY. AND I THINK THAT'S THE QUESTION IS, IS SOMEONE GOING TO COME UP AS THE PERSON WINNING IT IN SOME STATES IN THE CONGRESSIVE DISTRICTS? BECAUSE IF NOT, HE COULD LEAVE SUPER TUESDAY WITH A DELEGATE LEADER WHO WILL NEVER QUIT. MARK MURRAY, GIVE ME THE STATE OF THE SUPER TUESDAY CAMPAIGN.
IF WE ARE WORKING WITH THE THREE OUT OF HERE BEING KLOBUCHAR, BUTTIGIEG AND SANDERS, WE KNOW SANDERS HAS OPERATIONS EVERYWHERE. WHAT ABOUT BUTTIGIEG AND KLOBUCHAR? LET ME START WITH THE PEOPLE ON THE BALLOT HERE IN NEW HAMPSHIRE. MICHAEL BLOOMBERG. SO RIGHT NOW, OUTSIDE A LOT OF BERNIE SANDERS, THERE'S SURELY ALREADY ADVERTISING FOR THESE SUPER TUESDAY STATES. THEN, AFTER THAT, IT WOULD REALLY BE ELIZABETH WARREN WHO WILL REALLY HAVE THE MEANS TO REALLY COMPETE. IT'S ONE OF THE THINGS HIS CAMPAIGN WAS TALKING ABOUT IN THE MEMO THEY RELEASED TODAY SAYING, HEY, ONE OF THE REASONS WHY WE REALLY MAY BE A BETTER CHOICE THAN AMY KLOBUCHAR IS THAT WE HAVE THE ORGANIZATION TO COMPETE ON SUPER TUESDAY.
SO CHUCK, IT WILL BE PETE BUTTIGIEG PROBABLY IN THIRD ON AN ORGANIZATIONAL FRONT. BUT OUTSIDE OF THOSE CANDIDATES ON THE BALLOT HERE, MICHAEL BLOOMBERG HAS A VERY LARGE ORGANIZATION THAT HAS. BUT ALSO, IT'S IMPORTANT, DAVID: ONE THING DAVID JUST MENTIONED ABOUT THE DELEGATE LOUNGES YOU MAY END UP HAVING. WHAT I WANT TO SEE ONCE WE GET TO SUPER TUESDAY IS BERNIE SANDERS AT 25, 30%? OR IS IT STARTING TO GET 35, 40, 45%? BECAUSE THE DIVISION OF THE DELEGATE YOU END YOU WILL GET IS VERY IMPORTANT. IF YOU END UP HAVING A SITUATION WHERE A CANDIDATE AT 28%. ANOTHER CANDIDATE FOR 25%. AND THE OTHER CANDIDATE TO 22%.
ALL OF THEM ARE GOING TO END UP WITH THE SAME NUMBER OF DELEGATES. BTW, WE COULD HAVE A 3-3 TIE FOR DELEGATES TONIGHT, RIGHT? WHEN WE LOST NEW HAMPSHIRE, WE SPLIT THE VOTES WITH HILLARY. I THINK THERE IS A SCENARIO WHERE 28, 26, 22 BUT THERE IS ALSO A SCENARIO WHERE IT SAYS BERNIE SANDERS IS 25, 26. AND YOU HAVE BLOOMBERG, BIDEN, KLOBUCHAR, BUTTIGIEG AND WARREN ALL GETTING 8, 10, 12, 15, 16. THERE IS A SCENARIO WHERE BERNIE SANDERS COULD BUILD A DELEGATE LEADER AND NEVER GIVE UP. IF HE DOESN'T REACH 30. BUT THAT'S WHY WHO STAYS AND WITH WHAT STRENGTH IS SO IMPORTANT FORWARD. CHUCK, I THINK THE FRAME HERE IS ALL THE REST OF THE NON-BERNIE SANDERS CANDIDATES WANTING TO BE THE ALTERNATIVE TO BERNIE SANDERS IN THE FIRST PLACE.
SECONDLY, BERNIE SANDERS HAD A DELEGATE CAMPAIGN ONCE BEFORE. I WENT -- THEY HAVE ALSO BEEN TO ALL THESE STATES BEFORE. I MEAN, BERNIE SANDERS, YOU KNOW, HE'S BEEN TO OKLAHOMA, IDAHO AND ARIZONA. TRYING TO THINK OF WHAT OTHER PLACES I NEVER THOUGHT I WOULD TRAVEL IN A PRESIDENTIAL CAMPAIGN WHERE WE WENT WITH BERNIE SANDERS WHILE RUNNING AGAINST HILLARY CLINTON. SO, YOU KNOW, THIS IS AN ORGANIZATION THAT KNOWS HOW TO DO THAT. AND, YOU KNOW, FRANKLY, THE FACT THAT HE RUN AGAINST HILLARY CLINTON LAST NIGHT, IT WAS A UNIQUE TWO-PERSON RACE, I mean, hence the medallion. IN THIS KIND OF FIELD, I DON'T KNOW, I DON'T THINK THEY GIVE BERNIE SANDERS ENOUGH CREDIT.
JOSHUA JOHNSON, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU HEARD THE TRYMAINE LEE INTERVIEW. HOW WOULD YOU ADVICE MODERATES TO REACH UP BERNIE? AND THEN, HOW WOULD YOU ADVISE THE PEOPLE OF BERNIE TO REACH THE MODERATE? OH BOY. I DON'T GET PAID ENOUGH FOR THAT KIND OF ADVICE. BUT I WOULD NOT QUESTION, FOR EXAMPLE, ONE OF THE GREAT TACTICS THAT CAME OUT OF THE DEBATE ON FRIDAY IS TO TRY TO GIVE BERNIE THIS SCARLET LETTER, THIS IS SOCIALIST. I WONDER IF THAT COULD BE CONTRARY BECAUSE I THINK SO. WE HAVE ALL THESE MODERATE CANDIDATES SAYING BERNIE SANDERS IS NOT ELIGIBLE.
AND THEN TO SAY ALL THIS SOCIALIST IS TOO MUCH. WHAT IF HE BECOMES THE NOMINE? ARE YOU GOING TO EAT THOSE WORDS? DO YOU MEAN THAT THEN? DON'T YOU WANT TO SAY IT NOW? I MEAN, WHAT DO YOU DO? THE FACT THAT MANY OF THE CANDIDATES ARE TRYING TO COME AFTER BERNIE SANDERS, I UNDERSTAND WHY. JUST NOT SURE, A, THEY MIGHT HAVE TO EAT THOSE WORDS LATER. AND, B, IF THAT IS NOT PART OF THIS DEBATE THAT HAS BEEN GOING ON SINCE 2016. RIGHT? WHAT DOES THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY WANT TO START ON INAUGURATION DAY TO PREPARE TO MAKE DONALD TRUMP A ONE-TERM PRESIDENT?
MAYBE THE DEMOCRATS WANT TO BE THE PARTY OF BERNIE SANDERS. BUT THEY DON'T THINK BERNIE IS ELIGIBLE ENOUGH. BUT HE IS WHO THEY WANT TO BE BUT WE CANNOT WIN WITH HIM BUT HE IS WHO WE BELIEVE IN. AND THAT TENSION IS WHAT I AM INTERESTED IN SEEING NOT ONLY IN NEW HAMPSHIRE BUT ESPECIALLY IN NEVADA AND SOUTH CAROLINA. DAVID, EIGHT -- 12 YEARS AGO, BERNIE SANDERS VOTERS WERE EXCITED ENOUGH ABOUT BARACK OBAMA THAT THEY ALMOST TREATED HIM LIKE THEY ASSUME HE AGREED WITH THEM ON EVERYTHING. THESE VOTERS, THIS TIME, ARE -- YES. THIS TIME, THERE SEEMS TO BE -- THEY ARE NOT GIVING THE BENEFIT OF THE DOUBT TO ANYONE ELSE.
NO. I MEAN, LISTEN. AT THE END OF THE DAY I THINK IF BERNIE SANDERS IS THE NOMINATE I THINK WHAT THESE CANDIDATES WILL SAY IS LISTEN I THOUGHT I WAS THE BEST CANDIDATE. I AM ALL FOR BERNIE. YOU KNOW, AT THE END OF THE DAY, IF WE LOSE THE ELECTION, I DOUBT IT WILL BE FOR THAT REASON. BTW, KASIE, THERE'S A CAUCUS. IF YOU HAVE NOT BEEN THERE, MAYBE YOU CAN GET THERE. THAT WOULD BE A GREAT TRIP. THREE CHANGES OF PLANE. ONE MAY BE IN THE AIR IN THE PACIFIC. SO YES. I THINK, I, JUST WANT TO EMPHASIZE HOW MUCH THE CAREER CHANGES AFTER THIS.
WE KNOW THAT CHANGES IN NEVADA AND SOUTH CAROLINA. BUT THESE CANDIDATES ARE NOT GOING TO BE ON THE FIELD, RIGHT? AND SO ORGANIZATION DOES MATTER, PARTICULARLY IN SMALLER STATES. HEAR. YOU MAY HAVE 10,000 PEOPLE IN CALIFORNIA AND TEXAS WHERE I THINK ORGANIZATION MATTERS LESS THAN DRIVE AND MONEY. BUT LOOK AT THESE POLLS TODAY. EVEN IF AMY KLOBUCHAR AND MAYOR PETE COME IN MARCH IN THE 20s, WHICH I DON'T THINK THEY BOTH DID, AND YOU HAD BLOOMBERG IN THE MIX AND BIDEN AND WARREN ARE STILL THERE. I AGREE WITH KASIE, I THINK BERNIE SANDERS STOCK IS UNDERVALUED RIGHT NOW AND I THINK THE WAY HE DOESN'T COME INTO MARCH AS FRONT IS IF SOMEONE COME UP FOR TWO CANDIDATES.
SO IF YOU ARE SPLITTING THINGS BASICALLY 25-26. WHAT THAT MEANS IS WE COULD HAVE A DELEGATE LEADER WHO IS CLEAR. RIGHT. KASIE HUNT, WE'VE BEEN TALKING A LOT ABOUT FREE CAMPAIGNS. THE BEAUTY OF NEW HAMPSHIRE FOR THIS. SO IT IS. BUT THERE ARE TWO CANDIDATES WE HAVE NOT TALKED ABOUT YET. AND I THINK, TWO WEEKS AGO, IF I SAID IT TOOK US 40 MINUTES TO TALK ABOUT ELIZABETH WARREN AND JOE BIDEN, IT WOULD BE LIKE WHAT THE HELL HAPPENED TO THE NEW HAMPSHIRE PRIMARY. WE'RE ALWAYS SURPRISED AND, YOU KNOW, THE PEOPLE, THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE WHO MADE THEIR DECISION IN THE LAST DAYS, 48% OF THE VOTERS.
IT IS HALF OF THE VOTERS, WHICH IS MUCH HIGHER THAN THE QUARTER OF THEM WHO DECIDED IN THE LAST SECOND IN 2016. THEY REALLY SHOW THAT THE CONTOURS OF THIS CAMPAIGN, THE EVENTS, THE PIECES THAT SEEM TO FLY, REALLY MATTER OR CAN MATTER. AND, YOU KNOW, PETE BUTTIGIEG, AMY KLOBUCHAR, I DON'T THINK WE WOULD HAVE, YOU KNOW, NONE OF US WAS SITTING HERE A YEAR AGO SAYING THOSE WERE THE TWO PEOPLE WE WOULD BE TALKING ABOUT ON NEW HAMPSHIRE ELEMENTARY NIGHT. ADRIENNE ELROD, ON THE CLINTON CAMPAIGN, YOU HAD NOT WON YET. YOU WERE GOING TO HAVE A BIG CASH PROBLEM.
SUDDENLY YOU RUN OUT OF CASH AND SUDDENLY HAD TO TURN TO A LITTLE DOLLAR CAMPAIGN AND YOU DID. YES. JOE BIDEN NEEDS THAT KIND OF SURPRISE. EARLY RETURNS ARE NOT SHOWING IT. OBVIOUSLY, HE'S NOT SORRY. YOU SHARED THOSE SAME DONORS WITH JOE BIDEN. DONORS. THEY GO WITH WINNERS. THEY DON'T LEAVE WITH LOYALTY, RIGHT? WELL, EXACTLY. I DON'T THINK IT'S GOING TO BE 2008 FOR JOE BIDEN. IF IT WERE, JOE BIDEN -- WE -- WE -- WON NEW HAMPSHIRE, OBVIOUSLY. 2016 WAS A SAD TIME FOR HILLARY CLINTON IN THIS STATE. WE WENT OUT OF HERE QUICKLY AND WERE, YOU KNOW, SETTING THE EXPECTATIONS FOR NEVADA AND SOUTH CAROLINA.
I DON'T THINK WE'RE GOING TO SEE THE SAME FOR JOE BIDEN TONIGHT WHERE HE'S GOING TO MAKE A MAJOR COMEBACK AHEAD. PEOPLE ARE STARTING TO LOOK AT AMY KLOBUCHAR AND PETE BUTTIGIEG TO ACCEPT THAT MORE MODERATE TABLECLOTH. AND BY THE WAY, I WANT TO ADD THAT I'M STARTING TO RECEIVE A LOT OF TEXT MESSAGES FROM MY FRIENDS ON DIFFERENT CAMPAIGNS SAYING DON'T FORGET IF AMY KLOBUCHAR DOES WELL TONIGHT, HE DOESN'T HAVE THE INFRASTRUCTURE TO FORWARD SOME SUPER-TUESDAY STATES LIKE ELIZABETH WARREN. JUST KEEP IN MIND SHE DOESN'T HAVE VERY INVESTED GROUNDWORK ON THE GROUND. I'M ALREADY BEGINNING TO LISTEN FROM THE CAMPAIGN SAYING IF IT'S GOING WELL, THIS COULD BE IT.
VERY INTERESTING. I THINK WE HAVE DAVE WASSERMAN WITH US NOW, WHO OF COURSE IS FROM THE KOCH POLITICAL REPORT. MISTER. WASSERMAN, YOU ARE SEEING THE GROSS PROFITS COME IN. AND I KNOW HOW -- WHAT HAVE YOU LEARNED SO FAR FROM SOME OF THE SITES THAT HAVE ALREADY REPORTED? WELL, WE'RE LOOKING CITY BY CITY, CHUCK. SORRY FOR MY VOICE. BUT SO FAR, TWO THINGS STAND OUT FOR ME. FIRST, KLOBUCHAR'S SURF IS REAL. WE'RE LOOKING AT AMY KLOBUCHAR -- HE'S WON SEALS IN CONCORD SO FAR. IT IS IMPOSSIBLE THAT SHE ARRIVED FIRST. BUT - BUT THAT'S SIGNIFICANT. AND THE SECOND THING I AM WATCHING IS HOW FAR FAR ELIZABETH WARREN AND JOE BIDEN ARE.
IT IS NOT CLEAR, AT THE MOMENT, IF THEY WILL EVEN END IN DOUBLE DIGIT. AND I DON'T THINK WE'LL EXPECT THE THREAD SIZE BETWEEN THE TOP THREE AND THE TWO TO BE THAT BIG. I WAS JUST GOING TO SAY THAT IT'S PROBABLY LA -- LA -- IS GOING TO BE ONE OF THE OTHER STORIES TONIGHT. AND YOU HATE TO SAY THIS, WHICH MEANS -- THIS ORDER -- THE ORDER OF THE TOP THREE MATTERS A LITTLE BECAUSE THERE'S GOING TO -- A STORY OUTSIDE HERE WILL BE THE NEGATIVE NARRATIVE STORY FOR THE TWO CANDIDATES YOU JUST MENTIONED.
WARREN AND BIDEN. AND IN THE LAST COUPLE OF DAYS OF THE RACE, WHICH MAY CONTRIBUTE TO WHAT WE SEE TONIGHT. HUNTING FOR KASIE. JOE BIDEN IS ABOUT TO GO THROUGH THE WORST PART OF THIS WHEN HE… HOW LONG DO YOU STAY? WHAT YOU HAVE TO DO? 18 DAYS FROM NOW TO SOUTH CAROLINA. IT'S GOING TO BE POTENTIALLY AMAZING IF THESE FIRST NUMBERS ARE ANY INDICATION OF WHERE WE'RE GOING TO END UP AT THE END OF THE NIGHT. AND I THINK HIS DECISION, YOU KNOW, WE WERE ALL A LITTLE SHOCKED THAT HE ANNOUNCED THAT HE WAS LEAVING NEW HAMPSHIRE BEFORE THE POLLS CLOSED.
BUT PEOPLE SAID IT WAS A BAD DECISION. BUT ON THE OTHER HAND, IF SOMEONE HAS BEEN TO THEIR EVENTS, IT MAKES ALL SENSE BECAUSE THE THEME IS -- SOUTH CAROLINA, I MEAN, THEY PUT EVERYTHING INTO IT. INSTEAD, WE CAN MAKE IT RIGHT THERE. WE CAN DO IT RIGHT THERE. YOU KNOW, I'M NOT CONVINCED AND SOME OF THE NUMBERS WE'VE SEEN AMONG AFRICAN-AMERICAN VOTERS IN PARTICULAR, POTENTIALLY CHANGING THEIR SUPPORT, I'M REALLY INTERESTED TO KNOW WHERE THEY GO AFTER SEEING THESE RESULTS TONIGHT. BY THE WAY, SOME OF THE POLLS SHOW ME -- JOSHUA JOHNSON, ARE YOU STILL WITH ME?
I THINK WE LOST JOSHUA ON THE MSNBC SIDE OF THINGS. BUT -- OH, THERE YOU ARE. JOSHUA, I'M SORRY. WHAT I'VE NOTICED WITH THE AFRICAN-AMERICAN VOTE SINCE BIDEN'S COLLAPSE BEGAN IS THAT IT'S SUDDENLY GOING TO BREAK, LIKE THE WHITE DEMOCRATIC VOTE. IN CLASS LINES. IN AGE LINES. LIKE, THIS IS NOT GOING TO BE A RACIAL VOTE PER SE AT THIS POINT. WHAT IS YOUR THOUGHT ABOUT THAT? MAYBE. I MEAN, I -- I DON'T KNOW. THERE IS, OF COURSE, A KIND OF OBAMA HALO AROUND JOE BIDEN, WHICH WE KNOW OF. AND I THINK THAT'S A BIG REASON, A BIG FACTOR IN TERMS OF WHY YOU'VE BEEN POLLING VERYSTRONGLY WITH AFRO-AMERICANS.
IN FACT, THAT IS ALSO ONE REASON WHY I FEEL NEW HAMPSHIRE SHOULD BE KEPT IN PERSPECTIVE AS A DATA POINT THAT DOES NOT NECESSARILY SHOW THE ENTIRE -- THE -- THE ENTIRE DEMOCRATIC VOTE BASE. BECAUSE IF NEW HAMPSHIRE IS THE DETERMINING FACTOR IN WHO IS IN OR OUT, THEN BLACK VOTERS SHOULD NOT BE SO IMPORTANT BECAUSE WHY WORRY ABOUT SOUTH CAROLINA? IF NEW HAMPSHIRE IS THE DETERMINING FACTOR, THEN UNION VOTERS SHOULD NOT BE SO IMPORTANT BECAUSE WHY WORRY ABOUT NEVADA? AND WE KNOW THAT THE CULINARY UNION, WHICH HAS 65,000 MEMBERS REPRESENTED IN ITS SYSTEM, HAS MEDICARE CONCERNS FOR EVERYONE.
THEY HAVE NOT COME OUT AND SAID DON'T VOTE FOR BERNIE SANDERS OR ELIZABETH WARREN. THEREFORE, IF BLACK VOTERS ARE REALLY IMPORTANT, THEN NEW HAMPSHIRE SHOULD BE KEPT IN PERSPECTIVE. AND WE HAVE TO ALLOW THIS TO BE ONE DATA POINT AMONG AT LEAST THREE. NEW HAMPSHIRE, NEVADA, SOUTH CAROLINA. THAT WILL HELP US UNDERSTAND A LITTLE MORE HOW THE WHOLE DEMOCRATIC PARTY CAN VOTE. AND VERY QUICKLY, MARK MURRAY, THE TOP THREE CANDIDATES. VERMONT WITH PETE BUTTIGIEG IN INDIANA AND AMY KLOBUCHAR. THEY -- ANY OF THEM HAVE A HISTORY WITH AFRICAN-AMERICAN VOTERS. NO. NONE OF THEM DO. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT ALWAYS GETS TO ME IS THE MISSING OF THE BIG TEN DEMOCRATS IN THE FIELD.
THE DEMOCRATS AS WE SAW ON THE FIELD IN 2004, JOHN EDWARDS, JOHN KERRY, PEOPLE YOU COULD DO GOOD FOR IN DIFFERENT PARTS OF THE COUNTRY, DIFFERENT COALITIONS. THIS FIELD IS FRACTURED. AS KASIE MENTIONED, IT'S VERY EARLY RIGHT NOW. HAS NEVER WON A SINGLE STATE, A SINGLE COMPETITION IN THOSE THREE BIDS UNTIL NOW. I KNOW HE IS THE FORMER VICE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES. BUT WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT THE HALO OF THE OBAMA PRESIDENCY AND WHAT YOU ARE DOING -- POTENTIALLY WE SAW WHAT HAPPENED IN IOWA MAYBE IN NEW HAMPSHIRE. EXTREMELY BAD NEWS. I'M GOING TO ESCAPE ON A BREAK BECAUSE WE ARE A LITTLE MORE THAN TEN MINUTES FROM THE CLOSING OF THE POLLS.
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I'M KASIE HUNT HERE IN MANCHESTER, NEW HAMPSHIRE. CHUCK TODD WILL BE BACK IN A BIT BECAUSE WE ARE MINUTES AWAY FROM THE CLOSING OF THE LAST STATE-WIDE GRANITE STATE SALE. AND WE HAVE RESULTS TONIGHT, UNLIKE LAST WEEK IN IOWA. IT'S EARLY BUT HERE'S WHERE THINGS STAND SO FAR. WE HAVE, PREDICTABLY, SANDERS WITH SOME LEAD. BUT THERE ARE TWO OTHERS ALSO ON THE RANKING LIST. BUTTIGIEG, KLOBUCHAR. WARREN AND BIDEN, TOO. A LIST OF OTHER CANDIDATES SEEMS LONGER BEHIND. WE HAVE ALREADY STARTED TALKING ABOUT THOSE TOP THREE CANDIDATES, BUT OF COURSE WE ARE NOT GOING TO CHARACTERIZE THE RACE HERE ON NBC NEWS UNTIL ALL THE POLLS CLOSE STATEWIDE.
WE GO NOW TO ONE OF THOSE POLLING PLACES. DASHA BURNS IS IN THE LONDON DAIRY, NEW HAMPSHIRE. YOU LEARNED? HEY, KASIE. THE POLLS STILL OPEN BUT ABOUT TO CLOSE HERE IN ABOUT TEN MINUTES. WE HAVE THE LAST VOTERS COMING HERE. AND THIS IS TRULY THE LARGEST POLLING PLACE, THE LARGEST SINGLE POLLING PLACE IN THE STATE. AND LET ME START WITH WHAT WE DO KNOW BECAUSE WE WON'T KNOW RESULTS OUTSIDE HERE FOR A LITTLE TIME. BUT LET ME START WITH THE VERY IMPORTANT ISSUE OF PARTICIPATION. IT'S BEEN HIGH HERE. AS OF 7:30, MORE THAN 7,600 BALLOTS IN TOTAL WERE CAST.
FOR CONTEXT, IN 2016, THERE WERE 10,000 BALLOTS CAST HERE. BUT OF COURSE, THAT WAS AN ELECTION WHERE THERE WAS -- THERE WAS A COMPETITION BOTH FROM THE REPUBLICAN SIDE AND THE DEMOCRATIC SIDE. SO THE POLL WORKERS HERE TELL ME THEY ARE SURPRISED BY HOW MANY PEOPLE HAVE PARTICIPATED TODAY. AND THIS IS DEFINITELY THE HIGHEST TURNOUT FOR AN INITUAL ELECTION IN RECENT HISTORY. NOW, ONE OF THE BIG STORIES COMING OUT OF HERE IS THAT THE VOTER BREAKDOWN IS ACTUALLY AROUND 60% DEMOCRAT, 40% REPUBLICAN, WHICH IS INTERESTING. PEOPLE WHO HAVE WORKED ON THESE POLLS FOR A TIME SAY THEY ARE SURPRISED TO SEE HOW HIGH THE TURNOUT WAS ON THE GOP SIDE CONSIDERING THAT DONALD TRUMP DOESN'T HAVE MUCH COMPETITION.
DON JR. HE REALLY SHOWN UP HERE ABOUT 30, 40 MINUTES AGO. THE BIG THREE CANDIDATES WE HAVE HEARD A LOT ABOUT HERE, KLOBUCHAR, BUTTIGIEG AND DONALD TRUMP. THOSE UNREPORTED INDEPENDENT VOTERS WE TALKED TO MOSTLY MENTIONED BUTTIGIEG AND KLOBUCHAR. LIKE -- LIKE THE CANDIDATES THEY GO TO. AND OF COURSE, DONALD TRUMP FOR THE REPUBLICANS. AND ONE THING I WANT TO MENTION BEFORE WE GO IS A UNIQUE ASPECT OF THE LONDON DAIRY. WE HAVE THESE iPADS THAT HAVE RECORDED PEOPLE. SO THESE LINES HAVE MOVED VERY FAST. I THINK IT HAS HELPED SMOOTH THE PROCESS FROM WHAT I HEAR FROM THESE WORKERS.
OF COURSE. JUST A LITTLE FAR FROM WHERE WE ARE HERE IN MANCHESTER. NOT NECESSARILY A COLLEGE-DOMINATED AREA MAY HELP EXPLAIN A BIT OF WHY YOU ARE HEARING MORE ABOUT PETE BUTTIGIEG AND AMY KLOBUCHAR. DASHA BURNS, THANK YOU SO MUCH. WE REALLY APPRECIATE IT. LET'S GO NOW DOWN THE ROAD WHERE WE FIND NBC'S MORGAN RADFORD ALSO AT A POLLING LOCATION. HELLO MORGAN. WHAT DID YOU LEARN FROM THE VOTERS TODAY? HEY, ACTUALLY FOR ECHO CON DASHA SAID, THIS POLLING PLACE CLOSED AN HOUR AGO AND THE POLL MODERATOR READ THE RESULTS AT 7:05 AND THIS IS WHAT THEY SAID. WE HAVE BUTTIGIEG LEADING IN 131.
KLOBUCHAR COMES IN SECOND IN 116. AND SANDERS IN 105. SO YOU SEE THE TOP THREE. WHAT IS ALSO INTERESTING IS IF YOU LOOK AT THE CANDIDATES WHO DID NOT DO SO WELL. BIDEN GOT JUST 68 AND THIS IS ABOUT 500. SO TO GIVE YOU A LITTLE CONTEXT HERE, IT'S A VERY CONSERVATIVE AREA OF NEW HAMPSHIRE. SO AROUND 1,000 BALLOTS WERE CAST AT THIS PARTICULAR POLLING CENTER. 500, APPROXIMATELY, OF WHICH WERE FROM THE REPUBLICAN SIDE. 500 FROM THE DEMOCRATIC SIDE. THIS IS AN AREA THAT DONALD TRUMP WON AGAIN IN THE 2016 GENERAL ELECTION. SO 449 WENT TO TRUMP ON THE REPUBLICAN SIDE BUT AGAIN HE WENT BACK TO THAT DEMOCRATIC SIDE, IF YOU LOOK AT THE KIND OF PEOPLE WHO ARE NOT DOING SO WELL, BIDEN WAS ONLY 68.
AND THAT'S QUITE DICTIVE. WE HAVE ALSO SEEN THAT WARREN DID A LITTLE BETTER THAN STEYER. THAT'S HOW THESE POLLING PLACES WORK AND THAT'S HOW IT IS HERE. YES. PRETTY REMARKABLE FOR A CANDIDATE -- HE HAS A LOT OF EXPERIENCE IN THIS REGION OF A NEIGHBORING STATE OF MASSACHUSETTS. ONLY VERY LOWERED IN THESE NUMBERS AFTER SO LONG. MORGAN RADFORD, THANK YOU SO MUCH. JOINING ME NOW IS NBC'S STAY TUNED HOST, SAVANNAH CELLARS. WE FIND IT HERE IN MANCHESTER, NEW HAMPSHIRE. SAVANNAH, WHAT DID YOU FIND IN THE REPORTING COURSE HERE IN THIS AREA? HEY KASIE, I'M ABOUT TO REPEAT THOSE SAME NUMBERS FOR YOU.
AS YOU MENTIONED I AM JUST ON THE OUTSIDE OF MANCHESTER. THEY CLOSED ABOUT AN HOUR AGO AND THEY DON'T WANT US THERE ANYMORE AS THEY ARE COUNTING BY HAND. OF COURSE, ALL THOSE BALLOTS BASICALLY PRINT THIS LONG RECEIPT. AND ONCE AGAIN, KLOBUCHAR AND BUTTIGIEG. KLOBUCHAR WAS IN THE TOP WITH 636. BUTTIGIEG, 587. THEN GOES SANDERS, BIDEN AND WARREN. AND REALLY, THERE WERE 3,646 VOTES COUNTED IN TOTAL HERE IN THIS PLACE. SO PLENTY OF VOTES AND AGAIN KLOBUCHAR AT THE TOP. ANECDOTALLY, HEARING FROM MANY PEOPLE WHO DIDN'T STATE THEIR WAY OF DECIDING THAT THEY WERE GOING TO VOTE FOR AMY KLOBUCHAR.
AND THAT SEEMS TO BE WHAT IS HAPPENING HERE. THEY ARE COUNTING BY HAND. AND THEN IS WHEN WE WILL GET THE OFFICIAL VOTE. SAVANNAH WINERIES IN MANCHESTER, NEW HAMPSHIRE. THANK YOU SO MUCH. OF COURSE, YOU ARE WATCHING NBC'S SPECIAL COVERAGE OF THE 2020 PRESIDENTIAL PRIMARY HERE ON NBC'S "NEWS NOW." WE ARE OBTAINING FIRST RESULTS AND HERE WITH MY PANEL OF EXPERTS. BETH FOUHY. IN NEW YORK, WE HAVE JOSHUA JOHNSON STILL WITH US AND WE ARE STARTING TO GET CLOSER TO BEING ABLE TO CHARACTERIZE WHERE THIS RACE IS AT RIGHT NOW. BUT A COUPLE OF STORIES STAND OUT.
GETTING SOMETHING FROM OUR REPORTERS IN THE FIELD THAT I THINK HELPS UNDERLINE THE NARRATIVE OF TONIGHT. ONE OF MARIANA THERE ARE ABOUT TWO DOZEN PEOPLE AT THE JOE BIDEN AND JOE BIDEN EVENT ALREADY IN SOUTH CAROLINA. AND THE OTHER STORY, AMANDA GOLDEN, WHO WE SPOKE TO AHEAD OF TIME, SAYS THERE'S A VERY OPTIMISTIC MOOD AT THE KLOBUCHAR EVENT TONIGHT IN NEW HAMPSHIRE. WE WERE MONITORING THE SURGE. WE WERE NOT SURE HOW REAL IT WAS. IT LOOKS LIKE WE ARE STARTING TO GET THAT ANSWER. THERE ARE LAST MINUTE VOTERS WHO APPEAR TO BE IN NEW HAMPSHIRE CHOOSING BETWEEN AMY KLOBUCHAR AND PETE BUTTIGIEG.
AMONG THOSE WHO DECIDED VERY EARLY WHO THEY WERE TO VOTE FOR, IT APPEARS TO BE A LOT OF SANDERS -- THEY ENDED UP WITH SANDERS ACCORDING TO THESE EXIT POLLS. BUT THOSE WHO DECIDED LATE, MANY OF THEM, AFTER -- TRYING TO DECIDE AMONG A HANDFUL OF MODERATE CANDIDATES TRYING TO CHOOSE THE ONE MOST LIKELY TO BEAT DONALD TRUMP. SO IT IS. IT IS VERY INTERESTING TO SEE THESE EXIT SURVEYS. THOSE WHO SEEK -- POLITICS. ONE OF THE QUESTIONS IS ARE YOU LOOKING TO KEEP OBAMA'S POLICIES IN PLACE? OR CHANGE TO MORE LIBERAL POLICIES? 41% OF THE DEMOCRATIC ELECTORATE SHOWS ONE OF THOSE OPTIONS. 41% CHOSE ANOTHER OPTION.
IT'S BASICALLY THE EXACT SAME WHO CHOSE THOSE TOO. AMONG THOSE SEEKING A MORE RADICAL CHANGE, MOST STILL WITH SANDERS. AMONG THOSE WHO SEEK MORE FOR AN OBAMA ERA, IT WAS JOE BIDEN WHO HAD THAT SHELF. NOW, THEY ARE AMY KLOBUCHAR AND PETE BUTTIGIEG. DEMOCRATIC STATUS QUO. CERTAINLY NOT TRUMP LIKE THE STATUS QUO. THIS SEEMS TO CRYSTALIZE THAT THERE IS BERNIE SANDERS ON THE ONE SIDE AND THE BERNIE SANDERS ALTERNATIVE ON THE OTHER SIDE. RIGHT. AND WHAT REALLY FASCINATES ME IS HOW THIS AMY KLOBUCHAR BOOM REALLY SEEMS TO BE GOING AROUND. THEIR BIG GAME EARLY WAS IOWA.
IT WAS THE SENATOR FROM THE NEXT NEIGHBOR STATE. SENATOR FROM MINNESOTA. SHE TALKED ABOUT FLYOVER COUNTRY. SHE SPOKE ABOUT THE FACT THAT SHE LIVED IN FLYOVER COUNTRY. BUT HE CAME IN FIFTH IN IOWA. SHE REALLY, REALLY PUNCHED HERSELF IN THERE. SO THE FACT THAT SHE CAN RISE UP, CARRY OUT NEW HAMPSHIRE AND ACTUALLY ACT ON THAT DEBATE SEEMS TO BE WHAT IS SAVING HER. AND, YOU KNOW, AS WE KNOW, MOMENTUM MATTERS AND SHE WAS ABLE TO GRAB IT. AND HER WE ARE STILL IN THE MOMENTUM PHASE OF THIS RACE. WE ARE SITTING AT THE TOP OF THE TIME NOW.
POLLS ARE CLOSED STATEWIDE IN NEW HAMPSHIRE. AND THE NBC NEWS DECISIONS TABLE WILL DO A CHARACTERIZATION OF THIS RACE. THE NEW DEMOCRAT FROM HAMPSHIRE. ELEMENTARY IS STILL TOO EARLY TO CALL. BUT BERNIE SANDERS TAKES THE MINUTE. SANDERS AND PETE BUTTIGIEG AND AMY KLOBUCHAR ARE THE TOP THREE FINISHERS OF THE RACE. NO SURPRISE ON GOP SIDE, DECISION-DECK PROJECTS AS EXPECTED DONALD TRUMP WINS NEW HAMPSHIRE REPUBLICAN PRIMARY. NOW WITH US, FOLLOWING BUTTIGIEG'S CAMPAIGN, VON HILLIARD. VON, OUR FIRST STARTING CHARACTERIZATION HERE. WE KNOW THAT THE CANDIDATE YOU HAVE BEEN WATCHING VERY CLOSELY IS GOING TO FINISH IN THE TOP THREE HERE IN NEW HAMPSHIRE.
WHAT IS THE MOOD - LIKE THE MOOD WHERE YOU ARE AND WHAT DOES THIS MEAN FORWARD. Reporter: EVERY TIME YOU'VE BEEN IN ENOUGH OF THESE EVERY COUPLE OF MOMENTS YOU HEAR CHEERS BEHIND YOU AND THEY MAKE YOU LOOK AT THE TV SCREEN AND IT MAY BE A COUPLE HUNDRED VOTE THAT CHANGES A COUPLE OF PERCENTAGE POINTS. THIS IS A NUMBERS BASED CAMPAIGN YOU ARE LOOKING AT, THEY ARE POSITIONED BASED ON RESULTS NOW ARRIVING EXACTLY WHERE THEY WANTED TO BE. THEY WANTED TO GET OUT OF THIS AS A TWO RACE AND IT IS THE MENTALITY OF THE REST OF THE COUNTRY.
THAT'S PETE BUTTIGIEG AND BERNIE SANDERS. AND AMY KLOBUCHAR IS THE JOKER. THERE IS NO REASON FOR AMY KLOBUCHAR TO LEAVE THIS RACE AND THERE IS NO SUGGESTION FROM JOE BIDEN IN SOUTH CAROLINA AND ELIZABETH WARREN THAT THEY GO ANYWHERE. SO PETE BUTTIGIEG WANTED TO LEAD TONIGHT AS THE CLEAR ALTERNATIVE TO BERNIESANDERS. BUT WHAT YOU CAN SAY IS BASED ON INITIAL RESULTS THAT HE IS CLOSE TO THE NEIGHBOR SENATOR FROM VERMONT. I THINK WE SHOULD TAKE IN CONTEXT, THERE ARE MANY QUESTION MARKS FOR PETE BUTTIGIEG HEADING TO NEVADA AND SOUTH CAROLINA WHERE THERE IS NO EVIDENCE OF STRONG POLL NUMBERS AND ESPECIALLY LACK OF SUPPORT AMONG COMMUNITIES OF COLOR.
PETE BUTTIGIEG, ONE YEAR AGO, HAD NO OPERATION HERE. WHILE HE HAD THE PROSPECT OF HAVING TO COMPETE AGAINST NEIGHBORING SENATORS BERNIE SANDERS, WHO WON BY 22 PERCENTAGE POINTS AGAINST HILLARY CLINTON FOUR YEARS AGO AND ELIZABETH WARREN WHO HAS BEEN ON THE TELEVISION WAVES IN MUCH OF NEW HAMPSHIRE FOR THE PAST DECADE DUE TO THE BOSTON TELEVISION MARKET AND NOW WHAT YOU'RE SEEING IN TONIGHT'S RESULTS IS THE FACT THAT PETE BUTTIGIEG WAS ABLE TO CONVINCE A LARGE ENOUGH SECTION OF THE ELECTORATE TO GIVE HIM A CHANCE AND NOW WHAT THE CAMPAIGN WANTS IS DURING THE NEXT WEEKS, NEVADA AND SOUTH CAROLINA, FOR PEOPLE TO TAKE INTO ACCOUNT THAT HE WAS ABLE TO BRING IN SOME INDEPENDENTS AND EVEN REPUBLICANS AND IF PEOPLE ARE WORRIED ABOUT BEATING DONALD TRUMP LIKE IN IOWA, LIKE IN NEW HAMPSHIRE, SO HE IS THE CANDIDATE TO BE THAT ALTERNATIVE TO BERNIE SANDERS.
VON HILLIARD, THANK YOU, WE WILL BE STILL WITH YOU THROUGHOUT WHAT IS GOING TO BE A GREAT NIGHT IN THE BUTTIGIEG CAMPAIGN. AND FOLLOWING ME WARREN'S CAMPAIGN WE HAVE THE OPPOSING STORY WITH NBC'S ALI VITALE. VON WAS JUST PLAYING THIS BUT SHE'S A NEIGHBOR AND A LOT OF US FLY INTO BOSTON AND DRIVE LESS THAN AN HOUR TO GET HERE IN NEW HAMPSHIRE. AND SHE IS SOMEONE WHO ANNOUNCED AND CAME INTO THE RACE FIRST, SHE HAS BEEN ON THE WAVES AS VON POINTED OUT AND IS A TRIBUTE OF FAMILY NAMES IN THE REGION BUT WE ARE REALLY SEEING HER FALL DOWN HERE.
NOT IN THIS TOP THREE WHICH IS IN OUR CONVERSATION NOW. Reporter: YES, CASEY AND VON MAKE NO WRONG. BEING ON THE GROUND HERE IN NEW HAMPSHIRE, SEVERAL VOTERS TELL ME THEY INSTANTLY REMEMBER EXPERIENCE HIS 2012 SENATE RUN BECAUSE IT WAS THE TALK OF THE WAVES HERE IN MASSACHUSETTS AND ALSO HERE IN NEW HAMPSHIRE. BUT THERE IS A WARNING TO THAT AND THAT IS THAT 2018 DID NOT HAVE A COMPETITIVE RACE FOR RE-ELECTION TO THE SENATE AND SO SHE WAS NOT ON TELEVISION. SHE DID NOT SPEND MONEY ON TV ADVERTISING SO SHE HAS NOT BEEN A RECENT UBIQUITOUS PRESENCE HERE.
I HAD TO SAY HERE ON THE GROUND AT WARREN'S HEADQUARTERS IN MANCHESTER PEOPLE ARE COMING UP AROUND ME. WE ARE GETTING SOME OF THAT EXCITED ENERGY YOU START ELECTION NIGHT WITH. BUT THE MOOD HERE AT HEADQUARTERS IS NOT NECESSARILY THE MOOD I HAVE BEEN GETTING FROM THE CAMPAIGN. INSTEAD IT IS -- IT LOOKS LIKE KAIET'S RESIGNATION THAT THIS IS A LONG SLOTH AND WHAT FACTORS IN THE STRATEGY THEY ARE PLAYING WITH IS THAT THEY WANT THIS TO BE A EXTENDED PRIMARY WHERE IDEALLY FOR THEM YOU SEE WHAT HAPPENED IN IOWA WITHOUT ONE THAT FLEES WITH THAT VICTORY.
THAT'S WHAT THEY WANT TO HAPPEN HERE IN NEW HAMPSHIRE TO MOVE FORWARD. THEY HAVE BEEN LOWERING EXPECTATIONS HERE IN NEW HAMPSHIRE AND LOOKING AHEAD. BUT CHANGES ARE BEING MADE IN TERMS OF HOW THEY ARE PLAYING TO ENACT THAT STRATEGY ON THE BOARD. WE KNOW THE CAMPAIGNS ENOUGH TO KNOW THEY HAVE TO BE EASY WITH THE RESOURCES TO TAKE THE CALENDAR FOR A LONGER STRETCH. THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT THE WARREN CAMPAIGN IS DOING. LAST TIME WHEN I WAS TALKING TO YOU, WE TALKED ABOUT YOU CANCELING TV AD BUYS IN SOUTH CAROLINA AND INSTEAD PUTTING THAT MONEY INTO RADIO AND PRINT IN SOUTH CAROLINA AS WELL AS PUSHING IT INTO TV AD IN NEVADA AND MAINE.
WHEN I CAME OFF THE AIR WITH YOU, I CALLED BEN, OUR POLITICAL UNIT AND TOLD HIM HOW MUCH MONEY WE ARE TALKING ABOUT AND YOU CAN SEE THROUGH ADVERTISING ANALYSIS, AROUND $750,000 OF SPENDING REVERVED FROM TOMORROW THROUGH ELEMENTARY DAY. WHAT ABOUT THAT NUMBER IS ADVERTISING ANALYSIS GROUPS TOGETHER RADIO AND TV SPENDING, BUT THE ASSUMPTIONS MAY BE THAT THE MAJORITY WAS PROBABLY SPENT ON TV. SO THEY ARE LOOKING TO REALLOCATE FUNDS AND VERY FRANKLY FOR CAMPAIGNS IF THE NAME IS NOT MICHAEL BLOOMBERG, NIMBLE IS THE NAME OF THE GAME WITH RESOURCES. AND IT WILL BE ELIZABETH WARREN WHO TALKED ABOUT HER ORGANIZATION AND A LITTLE TEST OUT THERE TO SEE IF THIS TURNED OUT DIFFERENTLY FOR HER THAN FOR JOE BIDEN.
ALLY, THANK YOU. CHUCK TODD IS BACK WITH US AS WE LEARN THAT ONE OF THE CANDIDATES LOWER ON THE LIST IS SUSPENDING HIS CAMPAIGN. NBC NEWS REPORTING THAT MR. YANG WILL NO LONGER BE A MEMBER. IT SEEMED TO INDICATE THAT THIS WAS GOING TO HAPPEN. HE IS TALKING ABOUT 2024. IT IS INTERESTING, HE WAS A CANDIDATE WHO HAD BEEN MORE RELEVANT AND IN EVERYONE'S THOUGHT THREE MONTHS AGO. HE'S THE KIND OF CANDIDATE IF HE PARKED HERE, HE COULD HAVE BEEN -- THEY MIGHT DECIDE HE COULD HAVE GOT SOME TRACTION. BUT IT DOESN'T LOOK LIKE NEW HAMPSHIRE AND PEOPLE AVOID IT BECAUSE OF THE ATTRACTOR OF WARREN AND SANDERS.
AND HE GOT FURTHER THAN A LOT OF PEOPLE. HE RAISED MORE MONEY THAN BETO O'ROURKE AND KAMALA HARRIS. AND WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THIS IS -- IT'S AN EXTRAORDINARY POLITICAL ISSUE FOR PEOPLE NOW. THIS IS THE SPG GAINING THE MOST ATTENTION IN FOUR YEARS IT MAY NOT SEEM LIKE THE GUY EXTRAORDINARY. HE'S THE QUIRKY GUY. HE HAD THAT. BUT HE IS RIGHT, IN THE INTERESTING ASPECT OF THIS IS WHY HE WAS ABLE TO STAY AS LONG AS HE DID. BECAUSE I HAD A REAL MESSAGE. HIS - THERE WAS A THEORY IN HIS CAMPAIGN. WE SAW KAMALA HARRIS NEVER PROVIDE A THEORY.
ANDREW YANG HAD THAT. AND WHETHER YOU AGREE WITH HIM OR NOT, HE WAS AN IMPECCABLE DEFENDER OF HIS POSITION. HE BROUGHT PEOPLE TO HIM FOR THAT REASON. BUT WHAT WE DID NOT SEE WAS ANY SIGN THAT HE COULD TALK A LOT ABOUT SOMETHING ELSE AND THAT MAY HAVE BEEN WHAT DROPPED HIM. IS THIS THE GUY TO TAKE ON PUTIN OR KIM JONG-UN OR HANDLE A MAJOR NATIONAL SECURITY CRISIS? WHAT WAS YOUR GREAT DISCIPLINE IS TO BRING EACH ANSWER TO THE UBI. AND YOU'RE LIKE, OK, DO YOU HAVE A SECOND MOVE? IN THESE DEBATES. AND HIS SPEECH COUNTED VERY, VERY LITTLE AND TAKE IT TO THE NEW AUDIENCE AND IT'S DIFFERENT FROM OTHER CANDIDATES THAT SOMETIMES YOU HAVE A GREAT RECEPTION IN THE ROOM AND THEN TALK TO OUR PEOPLE WITH HIM ON TIME AND THEY WOULD SAY THAT WAS WORD BY WORD WHAT HE SAID WEEKS AGO.
AND IN THE DEBATE HE SHOWED THAT SOMETIMES HE WAS NOT SO AGILE ANSWERING THESE QUESTIONS OR WHEN HE SPOKE IN A FRESH WAY, IT WAS REFRESHING BECAUSE IT WAS AN UNUSUAL MESSAGE. BUT HIS SPEECH ITSELF WAS VERY DISCIPLINED TO THE POINT OF -- I THINK A LOT OF VIEWERS OR VOTERS WATCHED IT AND SAID I LIKE WHAT HE HAS TO SAY, BUT IT'S A LITTLE NO --. I WANT TO BE ABLE TO SAY THIS LINE BECAUSE I THINK I WAS THE ONLY PERSON WHO DID NOT USE THIS LINE FOR THE VIDEO THAT WAS RELEASED ON NBC NEWS LAST WEEK.
AND WE HAVE THE BIDEN WHISPERER. THE BIDEN WHISPERER HAS ARRIVED IN SOUTH CAROLINA AND IT'S NONE OTHER THAN MIKE MEM ALLEY, HAVE YOU ALLOWED THE RESULTS TO TEAM BIDEN AND WHAT ARE THEY WHISPERING TO YOU? WHEN YOU HEAR THE NBC NEWS CHARACTERIZATION OF JOE BIDEN, YOU UNDERSTAND WHY WE HAVE MOVED TO A WARMER CLIMATE HERE IN SOUTH CAROLINA. AND AFTER THAT GUT GUT IN IOWA, THE BIDEN CAMPAIGN WANTED TO SEE IF THEY COULD DO SOMETHING TO TRY TO MAKE THE NUMBERS IN NEW HAMPSHIRE PROVIDE A QUICK AND EARLY REBOUND. WE SAW THEM QUICKLY OUT WITH RECOGNIZING BACKBACK AND TRYING TO PLAY ON THE BACKWARD SENSITIVITY NEW HAMPSHIRE HAS SOMETIMES PROVIDED TO DISTRESSED DEMOCRATIC CANDIDATES.
THIS IS NOT FUNCTIONAL. HE WENT BEHIND TWO OF HIS MAIN RIVALS, BERNIE SANDERS AND PETE BUTTIGIEG. THE LATEST INCREASED MORE AND MORE AS THE DAYS PASSED AND THAT POTENTIALLY GOT A FUTURE TO THE FORMER VICE PRESIDENT. SO WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE STRENGTH OF JOE BIDEN'S CANDIDATE EARLY IN THE NOMINATION, YOU SEE ONE OF THE PRAGMATIC PROGRESSIVE LANES SHIFTED BY AMY KLOBUCHAR AND MAYOR PETE. AND YOU SEE THE RAINY AGE OF THE OBAMA LEGACY AND ALMOST EVERY D.C. THEY ARE RUNNING ADS AND MICHAEL BLOOMBERG WITH THOSE ADS TOO. AND THEN YOU HAVE I AM THE MOST ELIGIBLE DEMOCRAT BOMBING THE AIRWAVES.
WHAT IS LEFT IN THE WAVE OF JOE BIDEN IS AFRICAN-AMERICAN SUPPORT AND THEY NEED TO BUILD UP THEIR AFRICAN-AMERICAN SUPPORT. YOU NEED IT NOW, THIS WALL OF FIRE, HAS NEVER BEEN MORE IMPORTANT AND YOU NEED TO MAKE A STATEMENT HERE SOON. WELL YOU MENTIONED ELECTABILITY, ELECTABILITY. KASIE HUNT, PREFERS TO SEE A NOMINE WHO CAN BEAT TRUMP AND WE SEE WHAT IT IS. TWO TO ONE AT 35%. BUT LET'S SEE THE BREAKDOWN OF IT MAY BE TRUMP. A COOL LITTLE TOOL HERE. LOOK AT THIS FOOT GRAPH. LOOK HOW BEAUTIFUL THAT IS. NOW BIDEN, ONLY 13%. BASICALLY ONLY ABOUT 20% OF THESE ELIGIBLE VOTERS THOUGHT HE WAS THE MOST ELIGIBLE.
LOOK WHO'S WINNING. BUTTIGIEG ON THE 27, KLOBUCHAR ON THE 21 AND THERE'S YOUR ESTABLISHMENT LANE. IT'S PRETTY NOTICEABLE AND A SIGNIFICANT HUB OF THE DASHBOARD, TOO. IT IS ABOUT 50% BETWEEN KLOBUCHAR AND BUTTIGIEG. LOOK, WE DON'T GO TO THE GRAPH -- ONE IN FIVE IS NOT BAD. BUT AT THE SAME TIME IT'S CLEAR THAT THE LANE FOR -- THE ELECTABILITY LANE ON THE CORNER OF NO STANDERS IS GOING TO KLOBUCHAR AND BUTTIGIEG IS THE NARRATIVE OF TONIGHT. AND BUTTIGIEG'S POINT IS INTERESTING TO ME BECAUSE I THINK IF THERE WERE QUESTIONS ABOUT HIS CANDIDACY OUTSIDE THE DOOR AND JOE BIDEN TRIED TO MAKE THIS POINT IN NEW HAMPSHIRE AND IS MOCKED AT HIM FOR BEING AN INEXPERIENCED MAYOR AND A MILLENNIAL UNDER 40 YEARS OLD AND THIS WILL SHOW THAT THERE ARE MANY VOTERS HERE IN NEW HAMPSHIRE WILLING TO GIVE HIM THE BENEFIT OF THE DOUBT.
I DID THE MATH OF BUTTIGIEG, KLOBUCHAR AND BIDEN. WITH 61% OF ELECTABILITY VOTERS ELECTING THE MOST MODERATE CANDIDATE, WARREN AND SANDERS ESSENTIALLY THE OTHER 30 AND THE MOST PROGRESSIVE AND THE ELIGIBLE WING OF THE PARTY IS CLEARLY MORE MODERATE. ABSOLUTELY. AND THIS IS A MORE MODERATE ELECTORATE THAN WE SAW IN 2016 WHEN SANDERS PERFORMED SO WELL. IT SEEMS LIKE THERE WERE MORE CONSERVATIVE OR MODERATE DEMOCRATS OR REPUBLICANS WHO WERE UNDECLARED AND VOTING IN THE PRIMARY. YOU THINK IT IS INTERESTING. BIDEN RUN SO CLEARLY ON THE IDEA I AM THE ONLY CANDIDATE WHO COULD BEAT TRUMP. AND THE FACT THAT IT COLLAPSES SO MUCH IN IOWA IS WHY I THINK THE NUMBER IS AS LOW AS IT IS HERE.
NOW I SAY THAT FOR SANDERS, TURNOUT IS VERY IMPORTANT HERE, IN IOWA THE TURNOUT WAS NOT VERY LARGE AND IT UNDERMINED SANDERS' ELECTABILITY A LITTLE, WHICH IS THAT IT COULD BRING NEW CONSTITUENTS. WE WILL BE WAITING FOR ANDREW YANG. AND I THINK CORIN IS WITH US. AND VERY QUICKLY, IT IS CLEAR THAT THE MODERATES ARE WINNING THE ELIGIBILITY MOVEMENT AND WHAT THE MEMBERS THINK. IT'S INTERESTING, BECAUSE WE'VE SURVEYED MOVE-ON MEMBERS OVER THE PAST YEARS, GOD, AM I REMEMBERING CORRECTLY. AND EVERY TIME WE CLEARLY ASK THEM WHO THEIR TOP THREE OR FOUR ARE, IT HAS ALWAYS BEEN GROUPED.
IT HAS NEVER BEEN SO CLEAR. I THINK AT ONE POINT WARREN GUIDED THAT AND IT WAS -- IT WAS -- I DON'T WANT TO CUT YOU. BUT WE BRING ANDREW YANG HERE TO SAY GOODBYE TO THE CAMPAIGN. HERE IS MR. ANDREW YANG. -- YOU HAVE ELEVATED AND INSPIRED ME AND EVELYN AND THIS CAMPAIGN AT EVERY TURN. YOUR PASSION AND ENERGY, YOUR DONATIONS AND HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF HOURS OF CALLING, VOLUNTEERING, YOUR ENTHUSIASM AND DEDICATION AND COMMITMENT. WE HAVE ACHIEVED A LOT TOGETHER. WE HAVE BROUGHT A MESSAGE OF HUMANITY FIRST AND A VISION OF AN ECONOMY AND SOCIETY THAT WORKS FOR US AND OUR FAMILIES TO MILLIONS OF OUR AMERICAN COUNCILMEMBER.
WE BROUGHT A MAILING LIST THERE THAT STARTED WITH JUST MY G-MAIL CONTACT LIST TO RECEIVE DONATIONS FROM OVER 400,000 PEOPLE ACROSS THE COUNTRY AND MILLIONS MORE WHO HAVE SUPPORTED THIS CAMPAIGN. ONE OF THE THINGS I FEEL MOST PROUD OF IS THAT WE GIVE AWAY $1,000 A MONTH TO 13 FAMILIES ACROSS THE COUNTRY. INCLUDING JEEDY FASSY HERE IN NEW HAMPSHIRE. WE HIGHLIGHT THE REAL ISSUES IN OUR COMMUNITIES AS OUR ECONOMY IS TRANSFORMED BEFORE OUR EYES BY TECHNOLOGY AND AUTOMATION. AMERICANS NOW KNOW THAT WHEN YOU GO TO A MANY FACTORY IN MICHIGAN, YOU DON'T FIND WALL-TO-WALL IMMIGRANTS DOING WORK, YOU FIND WALL-TO-WALL ROBOTIC ARMS DOING THE WORK PEOPLE USED TO DO.
WE WENT ON THE DEBATE STAGE AND CHANGED OUR NATIONAL CONVERSATION TO INCLUDE THE FOURTH INDUSTRIAL REVOLUTION, A TOPIC NO ONE WANTED TO TOUCH UNTIL WE DID HERE WITH THIS CAMPAIGN. OUR UNIVERSAL BASIC INCOME SIGNATURE PROPOSAL HAS BECOME PART OF THE MAIN CONVERSATION. WE INCREASED POPULAR SUPPORT FOR UNIVERSAL BASIC INCOME TO 66% OF DEMOCRATS. AND 72% AMONG VOTERS AGED 18 TO 34. WITHOUT A DOUBT, WE HAVE ACCELERATED THE ERADICATION OF POVERTY IN OUR SOCIETY BY YEARS AND EVEN GENERATIONS AND THAT'S THANKS TO ALL OF YOU WHO ARE HERE TONIGHT. ALTHOUGH THOUSANDS OF VOTERS PARTICIPATED IN OUR CAMPAIGN TONIGHT, TONIGHT IS NOT THE OUTCOME WE WORKED SO MUCH TO ACHIEVE.
IT IS VERY DISAPPOINTING TO MANY OF US, BUT IT SHOULD NOT BE. EVERY DAY I HAVE BEEN IN THE CAMPAIGN, I HAVE SUPPORTERS TELL ME, YOUR CAMPAIGN HELPS ME OUT OF A DEPRESSION, THANK YOU. WORKING ON THIS CAMPAIGN HAS MADE ME A BETTER PERSON. I MET MY SIGNIFICANT THANKS TO YOU. YOUR CAMPAIGN UNITED MY FAMILY. I LOVED HIS CAMPAIGN FOR THE FIRST TIME WITH POLITICS. THESE ARE ALL THE THINGS PEOPLE HAVE SAID TO ME OVER THE LAST DAYS AND THESE ARE WHY I AM SO INCREDIBLY PROUD OF THIS CAMPAIGN AND WHAT WE HAVE ACHIEVED TOGETHER. WE HAVE TOUCHED AND IMPROVED MILLIONS OF LIVES AND MOVED THIS COUNTRY WE LOVE SO MUCH IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION.
AND EVEN THOUGH THERE'S A BIG WORK TO BE DONE, YOU KNOW I'M THE MATH GUY. AND TONIGHT IT'S CLEAR BY THE NUMBERS THAT WE ARE NOT GOING TO WIN THIS RACE. I AM NOT SOMEONE WHO WOULD WANT TO ACCEPT DONATIONS AND SUPPORT IN ARACE WE WILL NOT WIN. AND TONIGHT I ANNOUNCE THAT I AM SUSPENDING MY CAMPAIGN FOR PRESIDENT. I LOVE YOU ANDRÉS. I LOVE YOU TOO. THANK YOU. THANK YOU SO MUCH. ANDREW YANG OFFICIALLY REMOVED FROM THE PRESIDENTIAL RACE. KASIE HUNT GAVE AN INTERVIEW BEFORE ANNOUNCING TO HIS SUPPORTERS THAT HE WAS LEAVING. THANKS SO MUCH -- THAT SEEMS TO PAINT A PICTURE OF A GUY CATCHING THE BUG IF YOU WILL.
CAUGHT THE CAMPAIGN MISTAKE. IT SEEMED SO. WE SPOKE WITH THE ATLANTIC WHICH DOES NOT RULE OUT ANOTHER RUB FOR PRESIDENT BUT HE COULD RUN FOR MAYOR OF NEW YORK CITY. SO YES. I THINK HE IS GIVING SPEECHES ABOUT THIS NUMBER OF THE UBI SIGNATURE. AND HE SAID IN THE APPEARANCE THAT IT DOES APPEAR TO HAVE CATCHED ON FIRE. AND I THINK THERE ARE SOME REASONS FOR THAT IN OUR ELECTORATE WHO ARE DRIVING THE DONALD TRUMP CAMPAIGN AND DRIVING THE BERNIE SANDERS CAMPAIGN. MEDICARE FOR EVERYONE WAS MUCH MORE CONSIDERED A FIRST IDEA BEFORE BERNIE RAN IN 2016. THIS IS THE NEXT STEP ON THE ROAD AND I THINK THERE ARE PROBABLY LOST PEOPLE EXPERIENCING WHAT HE TALKED ABOUT, WHICH IS THE IDEA THAT THEIR JOBS WILL BE THEY ARE TAKING OVER THE TECHNOLOGY AND ARE AFRAID OF WHAT HAPPENS NEXT.
WE ARE WAITING FOR ELIZABETH WARREN WHO TELL US SHE IS GOING TO SPEAK VERY SOON. I WANT TO BRING CORIN JOHN PEE EAR FROM MOVE-ON AND IN SOME EARLY PUBLIC POLLS, MOVE-ON ACTIVISTS SEEM TO LEAN MORE ON WARREN THAN ON SANDERS. THAT IS A KIND OF THE PROGRESSIVE PRAGMATICAL WING AS WE SAY. IS THAT A FAIR WAY TO DESCRIBE MOVE-ON VOTERS? THAT'S FAIR. BUT I HAVE TO TELL YOU, IT'S VERY CLUMPLE BETWEEN WARREN, HARRIS, EVEN JOE BIDEN AND BERNIE. WHEN WE CONDUCTED OUR SURVEYS, I THINK IT'S A LOT OF WHAT YOU'VE BEEN SEEING ON THE GROUND THAT IS NOT REALLY KNOWING WHAT TO GO WITH BECAUSE IT WAS SUCH A BIG FIELD AND SUCH A TALENTED FIELD AND BECAUSE PEOPLE REALLY WANTED TO WIN.
I JUST WANT TO SAY ABOUT YANG VERY QUICKLY, IF YOU CAN, CHUCK. IS THAT YANG SURVIVED SENATOR HARRIS AND SENATOR BOOKER AND BY SELLING BETO, THEY RAISED MONEY. THE GUY RUN AN AWESOME CAMPAIGN WHETHER THEY LIKE WHAT HE SOLD OR NOT. AND TO BE FINISHING HIS SEASON AFTER NEW HAMPSHIRE, THAT'S IMPRESSIVE. I THINK HE HAD A GREAT FIGHT. CORIN, I HAVE TO MAKE YOU AGAIN. I CUT YOU EVERY TIME A CANDIDATE GOES ON STAGE. BUT I THINK YOU HAVE TO FINISH YOUR THOUGHT THIS TIME, SO I APPRECIATE YOUR PATIENCE. HERE COMES ELIZABETH WARREN. ELIZABETH WARREN AND JOE BIDEN COLLECTIVELY WORTH WATCHING, IF YOU ADD THEIR VOTES THEY WOULD STILL BE IN FOURTH PLACE.
AND AN AMAZING NIGHT FOR ELIZABETH WARREN ON THE NEGATIVE I THINK YOU CAN SAY. LET'S LISTEN. HELLO, NEW HAMPSHIRE. THE RESULTS ARE STILL COMING IN FROM ACROSS THE STATE, BUT AT THIS MOMENT IT IS CLEAR THAT SENATOR SANDERS AND MAYOR BUTTIGIEG HAVE STRONG POWER. AND I ALSO WANT TO CONGRATULATE MY FRIEND AND COLLEAGUE AMY KLOBUCHAR FOR SHOWING HOW WRONG THE EXPERTS CAN BE WHEN THEY DISCOUNT A WOMAN. BUT SINCE WE ARE HERE TONIGHT AMONG FAMILY AND FRIENDS I ALSO WANT US TO BE HONEST WITH OURSELVES AS DEMOCRATS. WE COULD GO TO ANOTHER ONE OF THOSE LONG PRIMARY FIGHTS THAT LASTS FOR MONTHS.
WE ARE IN TWO STATES AND HAVE 55 STATES AND TERRITORIES REMAINING. WE STILL HAVE 98% OF OUR DELEGATES FOR OUR NOMINATION AVAILABLE AND AMERICANS IN EVERY PART OF THE COUNTRY ARE GOING TO MAKE THEIR VOICES HEARD. THAT'S HOW IT IS. THE QUESTION FOR US DEMOCRATS IS WHETHER IT WILL BE A LONG AND BITTER SNACK FROM THE SAME OLD DIVISION IN OUR PARTY OR IF WE COULD FIND ANOTHER WAY OUT. SENATOR SANDERS AND MAYOR BUTTIGIEG ARE EXCELLENT PEOPLE AND EITHER OF THEM WOULD MAKE A MUCH BETTER PRESIDENT THAN DONALD TRUMP. I RESPECT YOU BOTH. BUT THE FIGHT BETWEEN FACTIONS IN OUR PARTY HAS TAKEN A SHARP TURN IN THE LAST WEEKS.
WITH ADVERTISEMENTS MOCKING OTHER CANDIDATES AND WITH SUPPORTERS OF SOME CANDIDATES SHOUTING CURSES AT OTHER DEMOCRATIC CANDIDATES. THESE HARD TACTICS COULD WORK. IF YOU ARE WILLING TO BURN THE REST OF THE MATCH TO BE THE LAST MAN STANDING. IT COULD WORK IF YOU DON'T WORRY ABOUT LEAVING OUR PARTY AND OUR POLITICS WORSE THAN YOU FOUND IT AND IT COULD WORK IF YOU BELIEVE ONLY YOU HAVE ALL THE ANSWERS AND ONLY YOU ARE THE SOLUTION TO ALL OUR PROBLEMS. BUT IF WE ARE GOING TO BEAT DONALD TRUMP IN NOVEMBER, WE ARE GOING TO NEED A BIG PARTICIPATION WITHIN OUR PARTY.
AND TO GET THAT ENGAGEMENT, WE WILL NEED A NOMINEE WHO THE BROADEST COALITION OF OUR PARTY FEELS HE COULD SUPPORT. WE CANNOT AFFORD TO FALL INTO FACTIONS. WE CANNOT AFFORD WASTE OR ELECTIVE POWER. WE WIN WHEN WE TOGETHER. YOU KNOW, REF VAND JESSE JACKSON ONCE SAID YOU NEED TWO WINGS TO FLY AND I THINK HE'S RIGHT. OUR CAMPAIGN IS TO BEST STANDS TO BEAT DONALD TRUMP IN NOVEMBER BECAUSE WE CAN UNITE OUR PARTY. WE CAN UNITE THIS PARTY AND THIS COUNTRY BY MOBILIZING THE PEOPLE BEHIND IDEAS THAT ARE NOT ONLY POPULAR WITH THE GREAT MAJORITY OF THE AMERICAN PEOPLE, BUT ALSO ACHIEVE STRUCTURAL CHANGE FOR OUR BROKEN GOVERNMENT AND OUR MANIFESTED ECONOMY.
WE CAN UNITE PEOPLE AROUND A WEALTH TAX ON THE VERY RICH AMERICANS SO WE CAN INVEST IN EDUCATION FOR ALL. WE CAN UNITE PEOPLE TO END CORRUPTION IN WASHINGTON, END THE CORRUPTION THAT HAS ENCOUNTERED STAGNED WAGES, RISING COSTS AND A TIGHTER AND TIGHTER GRIP ON THE MIDDLE CLASS. WITH WE CAN DO THAT. END THE CORRUPTION THAT LEAVES MORE AND MORE WORKING FAMILIES WITH EVERY LESS HOPE FOR A BETTER FUTURE. AND THAT HAS CRUSHED PEOPLE OF COLOR EVEN HARDER. PUT AN END TO THE CORRUPTION THAT HAS DESTROYED OUR CHILDREN, OUR SCHOOLS AND THE VERY SURVIVAL OF THE PLANET THAT THEY WILL INHERIT.
FAMILIES IN AMERICA TODAY ARE RUNNING OUT OF TIME. WE HAVE FACED DECADES OF DIMINISHING OPPORTUNITY, DECADES OF RISING INEQUALITY, AND DECADES OF WIDENING THE RACIAL WEALTH GAP. BIG BUSINESS HAS CAPTURED AND USED THE GOVERNMENT TO SERVE THEIR OWN INTERESTS AT THE EXPENSE OF SMALL BUSINESSES AND AT THE EXPENSE OF THE AMERICAN PEOPLE. I BELIEVE IN THE MARKET BUT MARKETS WITHOUT RULES ARE THEFT. MARKETS WITHOUT RULES PERPETUATE RACIAL DISCRIMINATION. AND FOR TOO LONG THE RULES HAVE BEEN FIXED AGAINST PEOPLE WHO JUST WANT AN EQUAL PLAYING FIELD. 2020 IS OUR TIME TO CHANGE WHO MAKES THE RULES. NOW, IT WAS NEVER MY PLAN TO POST FOR A POSITION OF ANY KIND.
WE'RE GLAD YOU DID -- GOOD GOOD. BUT NOT MY PLAN. AND I HAVE BEEN IN THIS FIGHT, YET, THIS FIGHT FOR WORKING FAMILIES FOR DECADES. I THOUGHT THE CREDIT CARD COMPANIES TRIED TO DECEIVE AND TRACK CONSUMERS, I FIGHT THAT OUR OWN BANK ARE THE REGULATORS TO HOLD THEM RESPONSIBLE DURING THE FINANCIAL CRASH. FIGHT TO BUILD A NEW FEDERAL AGENCY TO PROTECT CONSUMERS FROM PREDATORY AGENCIES. AND I TRAINED IN THIS FIGHT, I RUN FOR OFFICE BECAUSE I SAW THAT FAMILIES WERE BEING PULLED HARDER THAN EVER AND TOO MANY POLITICIANS WERE NOT DOING ENOUGH. I AM HERE TO DO GREAT THINGS.
BECAUSE HERE IS THE THING -- WELL THERE YOU HAVE IT. THERE ARE MANY TEA LEAVES TO READ WITH ELIZABETH WARREN. KASIE HUNT, IT WAS FASCINATING. SHE SEEMED TO COLLECT -- SERVING SOME DEMOCRATS TO LOSING SOME SUPPORTERS, INFORMING JOE BIDEN'S ATTACK ON PETE BUTTIGIEG AND A WARM CONGRATULATIONS TO AMY KLOBUCHAR. YOU KNOW THIS WOMAN WELL. YOU ARE A CORRESPONDENT FOR CAPITOL HILL AND FOLLOW THE SENATORS. READ BETWEEN THE LINES HERE. SO IF I'M LISTENING, I'M A LITTLE CONCERNED ABOUT THE WORD CONFERENCE. I DON'T MEAN CONFERENCE. I HEAR YOU. BUT I ABSOLUTELY TAKE YOUR POINT. AND HE WAS TALKING ABOUT SOMEONE WILLING TO BURN DOWN THE PARTY TO BE THE LAST MAN STANDING.
THAT WAS A PRETTY CLEAR SHOT FOR BERNIE SANDERS AND THE ARGUMENT HE'S MAKING WIDERLY IS THAT THEY NEED TO UNIFY BOTH SIDES OF THIS MATCH. I HAVE TO WONDER, IS HE PREPARING AND PICKING ENOUGH DELEGATES TO BECOME A TEAM-BUILDER TYPE FIGURE AT THE CONVENTION? I DIDN'T HEARD OF SOMEONE WHO WOULD BE WILLING TO SUPPORT BERNIE SANDERS. YOU KNOW WHAT, MY PROBLEM WITH HER MESSAGE, CHUCK, THERE'S A LOT OF BIG -- ABOUT WHAT IT WAS -- THERE WAS A BIG -- AND THERE WAS AN INCONGRUENCE PROBLEM AND SHE IS THE FIGHTER CANDIDATE. FIGHT FIGHT FIGHT. AND ON DEBATE SCENARIOS -- EVEN BEFORE SENATOR, SHE FIGHTED FOR THE CONSUMER FINANCIAL PROTECTION BOARD THAT TIM GEITHNER AND BARACK OBAMA DID NOT WANT.
AND ON THE DEBATE STAGE I DON'T HESITATE TO SAY WHY YOU WOULD RUN FOR PRESIDENT IF YOU DID NOT WANT TO GO ON AND TAKE HALF MEASURES. HE FACED OTHER MEMBERS OF HIS PARTY ON THE DEBATE STAGE. MAYBE NOT IN SUPER PERSONAL TERMS, BUT HE WAS NOT AFRAID TO STAND OUT FROM HIS ADVERSARIES. SO SUDDENLY TO BECOME THIS BIG UNITY CANDIDATE, THAT'S WHAT SHE'S BEEN DOING FOR THE LAST MONTHS AND IT HAS NOT WORKED AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE SEEING IN THE RESULTS FOR NEW HAMPSHIRE. KERRY, WE PRESENT THIS BREAKING NEWS BECAUSE WE MAY NOTICE BIDEN AND WARREN WILL BE EXCLUDED FROM THE DELEGATES.
ONLY THREE CANDIDATES WILL GET DELEGATES. FIVE OUT OF IOWA. SO THIS IS WHAT WINNOWING LOOKS LIKE. FIVE CANDIDATES WIN DELEGATES IN IOWA. THREE CANDIDATES WIN DELEGATES IN NEW HAMPSHIRE. AND IF YOU ASKED ANYONE TONIGHT OR ANYONE IN MANCHESTER REPORTING ON THIS TO GUESS WHICH TWO CANDIDATES WOULD BE EXCLUDED, JOE BIDEN WOULDN'T BE IN IT AND ELIZABETH WARREN WOULD NOT BE IN IT. HOW ABOUT SIX DAYS AGO. AND THERE WAS A TIME THAT ELIZABETH WARREN WAS A LEADER IN THE STATE AND NEIGHBORING STATES WHERE She IS FROM. WE SAW ALL WEEK WHEN WE WENT TO EVENTS THERE WERE CROWDS OF ELIZABETH WARREN FANS MANY FROM MASSACHUSETTS HOME STATE.
BIDEN, I JUST THINK GOING BACK EARLY IN THE CAMPAIGN, I KNEW THIS WAS A POSSIBILITY. AND I THINK A LOT OF PEOPLE WHO WATCHED HIM OVER TIME, HE HAD A LOT OF ADVISORS ADVISING HIM THAT THIS MAY NOT BE YOUR YEAR AND HE PERSONALLY DECIDED THAT IT WAS WORTH DOING EVEN KNOWING THE RISKS HE WOULD TAKE TO HIS FAMILY AND LEGACY AND HIS FAMILY. HE KNEW HE WAS PUTTING THAT ON THE LINE AND LEAVING A STATE AFTER LEAVING IOWA AND IT WAS SO DISAPPOINTING AND GETTING BLOCKED HERE, WHEN YOU LOOK AT IT, HAS TO BE VERY DISAPPOINTING WITH THE DECISIONS THEY MADE WHEN HE DECIDED TO ENTER THE RACE.
LET'S BRING MIKE MEMALI TO SOUTH CAROLINA WITH THE FORMER VICE PRESIDENT. I SURE THEY HAD A FEELING THAT THEY WERE NOT GOING TO WIN A DELEGATE TONIGHT. THAT'S SOMETHING AT THIS POINT I GUESS THEY DON'T REALLY CARE IF IT'S FOURTH OR FIFTH. BUT IS THERE ANY REGRETS ABOUT THE HIT THEY DID THAT BUTTIGIEG DID THAT WAS SURPRISING TO SEE HIM BE NEGATIVE ON A FELLOW PRIMARY OPPOSING LIKE THAT. YES CHUCK THE ENTIRE LONG BIDEN PRIMARY HAD BEEN ON THE RECEIVING END OF HITS AND KEEPS SAYING THIS IS NOT A CIRCULAR FUTURE SQUAD AND THE DEMOCRATS NEED TO TRAIN THEIR ATTENTION ON PRESIDENT TRUMP AND THEN WE SAW THE SERIES OF ATTACKS THAT ESCALATE WITH THAT PRETTY AMAZING VIDEO WHEN THE SAME CANDIDATE STOP AND BACK OFF THOSE ATTACKS AT THE END OF THE NEW HAMPSHIRE CAMPAIGN ON SUNDAY AND MONDAY I MADE NOTE OF THAT THE CAMPAIGN BACKED OFF AND SAID JUST BECAUSE WE ARE BACKING BACK THE BUTTIGIEG ATTACK DOESN'T MEAN THAT THEY WE REGRET.
IT WAS JUST A QUESTION THAT THEY HAD THE CONVERSATION IN THE BLOODSTREAM AND THEY FELT IT WAS SOMETHING THAT NEEDS TO HAPPEN AND BIDEN'S ADVISORS ARE SAYING TO ME NOW, WE'RE LIKELY TO SEE A LEADERBOARD FULL OF ONE, TWO, THREE HERE AND NOT JUST UNDERLINE THE ARGUMENT ALL THE TIME THAT IS THIS IS A LONG TERM CAMPAIGN AND THIS WILL BE RESET AS WE HEAD TO SOUTH CAROLINA AND SUPER TUESDAY AND WHY WILL BIDEN OUT OF THE RACE AT THIS POINT WHEN WE ARE JUST ENTERING FERTILE TERRITORY IN TERMS OF THE AFRICAN-AMERICAN VOTE HERE. THEY ARE ALSO MAKING THE ARGUMENT WHICH IS INTERESTING TONIGHT ABOUT AMY KLOBUCHAR.
THAT'S A NAME WE HAVE NOT HEARD THEM TALK ABOUT IN TERMS OF HOW THEY VIEW THE FIELD. AND THEY ARGUED THAT THEY DID NOT SEE A WAY FOR IT. OBVIOUSLY SHE HAS BEEN TRYING TO BUILD THE ROAD AHEAD OF HER AS SHE HAS NOT BEEN RAISING MUCH MONEY JUST TO SEE IT GO INTO THE LATE STAGES. SO THE MORE WE TALKED ABOUT THIS LAST WEEK, THE MORE CONFUSED THE TOP OF THE LEADERBOARD IS, THE MORE THEY BELIEVE THERE IS A PATH FOR JOE BIDEN HERE. THE PROBLEM IS THAT JOE BIDEN, PETE BUTTIGIEG AND AMY KLOBUCHAR ARE RAISING FUNDS FROM THE SAME POND.
AND WE KNOW THAT DONORS FOLLOW WINNERS AND NOT NECESSARILY LOYAL IN ANY WAY. IN SOUTH CAROLINA, THANK YOU SO MUCH, MIKE. AND VERY QUICKLY LEFT ONE MORE ACCORDING TO SOURCES THAN MICHAEL BENNET, IT'S NOT A SURPRISE. THE DEMOCRATIC SENATOR FROM COLORADO TRIED TO MAKE NEW HAMPSHIRE AND MAKE THE McCAIN. HE TRIED TO DO THE McCAIN AND HAD THE LAST STATE TOUR WITH JAMES CORE VEL TRYING TO DO THE -- AND TAKE BACK THE SENATE. MICHAEL BENNET WHO HAD - A CANCER DIAGNOSIS AND DELAYED THE START OF HIS CAMPAIGN AND THERE IS A LOT OF WHAT IS IN HIS MIND FOR HIM.
I HAVE A FEELING IT'S NOT OVER. I DON'T THINK IT IS, CHUCK. ESPECIALLY IF WASHINGTON DECIDED TO REPEAT THE TRUMP GOVERNMENT MODEL AND OPPOSES IT. THE MOST ANTI-WASHINGTON BOY IN WASHINGTON. THAT IS ONE WAY TO DESCRIBE IT. HE WANTS WASHINGTON TO DO THINGS. BIG THINGS. SON OF A DIPLOMATIC AND SEES PUBLIC SERVICE IN AN INTERESTING WAY -- OLD SCHOOL. WE'RE GOING TO ESCAPE ON A BREAK. YOU ARE WATCHING SPECIAL COVERAGE OF NEW HAMPSHIRE ELEMENTARY HERE ONLY ON "NBC NEWS NOW." ♪♪ ♪♪ WHITE TERRORISM AND WHITE SUPREMACIST TERRORISM IS NOT LIKE AL QAEDA OR ISIS OR SOME FOREIGN THINGS THAT LOOK LIKE SOMETHING WE HAVE BEENFIGHTING THE WAR AGAINST TERROR.
IT IS REALLY FUNDAMENTALLY AS AMERICAN AS ANYTHING. AND IT IS A THREAT TO OPEN, MULTIRACIAL AND PLURALIST DEMOCRACY AND JUST LIKE WE HAVE BEEN FIGHTING FOR THIS IN THE COUNTRY SINCE PEOPLE DIED ON THE BATTLEFIELD IN A CIVIL WAR. WE'RE GOING TO START WITH SOMETHING DIFFERENT TONIGHT. THIS IS ONE OF THOSE THINGS YOU MAY NOT OTHERWISE HEAR ON THE NEWS, BUT IT'S STILL WITH ME. FEED YOUR MIND WITH A FRESH PERSPECTIVE. GET YOUR FAVORITE MSNBC SHOWS NOW AS PODCASTS. IF IT'S KEEPING EVERYONE TO THE SAME STANDARD AND IF IT'S SUNDAY, IT'S "MEET THE PRESS." YOU ARE WATCHING "NBC NEWS NOW".
WE HAVE SOME BREAKING NEWS. WE BRING MORE TO THE CAUCUS. THESE ARE NEWS MADE FOR YOUR STREAMING WORLD. LIVE WEEKDAYS 3:00 TO 11:00 P.M. ORIENTAL. THE "MEET WITH THE PRESS" CHUCK TODD-CAST WITH SOME OF THE FAVORITE REPORTERS. GET IT FREE WHEREVER YOU GET YOUR PODCAST. YOU NEED YOUR TRUE CRIME SOLUTION ON THE GO. DATELINE EPISODES ARE AVAILABLE AS PODCASTS. MYSTERIES WITH A TWIST. WOW, LISTEN TO DATELINE WHEREVER YOU GET YOUR PODCASTS. WE HAVE THE FUNDAMENTAL OF THE HUMAN BEING. AND WE HAVE THE WAY WE CONSTITUTE OUR POLITICS AND THE DANGER IS IF OUR POLITICS GETS TOO TRIBAL AND THEN WE WILL LOSE WAY OF SPEAKING.
WHY IS THIS HAPPENING WITH CHRIS HAYES. SUBSCRIBE NOW. ♪♪ -- I THINK IT'S APPROPRIATE FOR US TO END THE CAMPAIGN TONIGHT. BUT I WANT TO REMIND YOU WHY I ENTERED THIS CAREER, WHY I STAYED IN THIS CAREER, AND WHY WE HAVE TO STAY IN THIS CAREER. I TRAINED IN THIS CAREER BECAUSE I LOVE OUR COUNTRY, I LOVE AMERICA. I LOVE THE -- MICHAEL BENNET WHO TELLS US HE IS GOING OUT. MARK MURRAY, REMIND ME THAT NOT ONLY WAS HE ARRIVED LATE, BUT WE HAVE TWO MODERATE DEMOCRATS FROM COLORADO ALL RUNNING WHO WERE VERY CLOSE FRIENDS, BY THE WAY.
JOHN HICKENLOOPER, THE FORMER GOVERNOR AND NOW THE LEADING SENATOR IN THE SENATE RACE BUT HE REMINDED ME OF HOW INCREDIBLE THAT THERE IS NO GOVERNOR. WE HAVE NO GOVERNOR AND MAYBE THAT PETE IS THE GOVERNOR OF THIS REMAINING FIELD. AND MAYBE MICHAEL BLOOMBERG WILL SEE IF HE CAN PLAY THE ROLE THAT THE MAYORS ARE FILLING AS THE ELECTED OFFICIAL OUTSIDE WASHINGTON, BUT IT'S AMAZING THAT WE GO LONG WITHOUT A GOVERNOR. I THINK YOU'RE RIGHT. THAT BUTTIGIEG HAS BEEN THE OUTSIDE IN THE CONTEST BUT TWO FACTORS ARE VERY IMPORTANT IN THIS RACE. NUMBER ONE, I CANNOT UNDERESTIMATE THE SIZE OF THE FIELD AND NOT JUST WITH BENNETT AND HICKENLOOPER BUT WITH BETO O'ROURKE AND CORY BOOKER.
I HAD ALMOST FORGOTTEN ABOUT HIM. I LOVE THAT. I'M CAUCUSING FOR -- BILL DE BLASIO. IN ADDITION TO BEING THE FIELD -- BEING NORMOUS AND THIS WAS HOW TO CHOOSE FROM THE MENU AT THE CHEESE CAKE FACTORY. THAT IS THE FACTORUNO NUMBER. AND FACTOR NUMBER TWO IS JOE BIDEN SUCKING THE OXYGEN FOR EVERYONE HE THOUGHT THE HAMBURGER MIGHT BE SUITABLE ENOUGH FOR ME IN MY DECISION AND LOOK NOW AND YOU END UP HAVING A SITUATION WHERE THAT STATE ISN'T THERE AND I THINK THAT'S WHAT CREATED SO A LOT INSTABILITY IN THE RACE. HE'S DONE A COUPLE OF THINGS.
IT HAS CLEARED A PATH FOR BERNIE SANDERS THAT MIGHT NOT HAVE BEEN THERE IF THE FIELD HAD BEEN MORE CONSOLIDATED AND GAVE HIM THE OPPORTUNITY TO BUILD THE DELEGATE LEADER WE HAVE BEEN TALKING ABOUT. AND ON THE QUESTION OF BIDEN, ALSO, AND FUNDRAISING, THAT'S ANOTHER HOW PECK I THINK WE'VE SEEN HANDLING THIS BECAUSE HE AND SOME OF THE OTHERS ARE STILL DOING A TRADITIONAL FORM OF FUNDRAISING IN THIS RACE AND IT'S A WELL OF REDUCTION OF DONORS. THAT'S WHY I THINK FUNDRAISING WAS THE LEADING INDICATOR FOR JOE BIDEN BECAUSE THEY WERE THE ONE SEEING HIM IN THE ROOMS, THEY WOULD UNDERSTAND WHAT KIND OF CANDIDATE HE WAS CAPABLE OF BEING AT THIS STAGE OF HIS CAREER AND ONE OF THE VERY HARD THINGS TO TALK ABOUT.
BUT YOU SAW IT AT HIS PERFORMANCE ON THE ROAD HERE IN NEW HAMPSHIRE. AND THE VOTERS HE SPOKE TO SAW IT. AND WE'RE GOING TO SEE SHAQ BREWSTER AT SANDERS HEADQUARTERS. AND I WONDER HOW GRATEFUL THE SENATOR IS FOR THE AMY KLOBUCHAR DEBATE AND YOU REALIZE THAT THIS COULD HAVE TURNED OUT A DIFFERENT WAY FOR SENATOR SANDERS THAN KLOBUCHAR AND BUTTIGIEG DID NOT TURN THE ELECTION VOTE. THAT'S A GREAT POINT YOU'VE MENTIONED, CHUCK. BECAUSE REMEMBER THAT IT WAS IN THE HOURS AFTER THE IOWA CAUCUS WHERE SENATOR SANDERS TURNED HIS LOOK FROM WHERE WE ARE AT JOE BIDEN AND PIVOTED RIGHT TO PETE BUTTIGIEG.
HIS CAMPAIGN WAS OPEN BEING NERVOUS ABOUT THE RISE IN THE POLLS YOU SAW MAYOR PETE HAS AND THE DRIVE AND MOMENTUM COMING FROM HIS CAMPAIGN AND SANDERS LAUNCHED HIS OWN ATTACKS. AND HE TIED MAYOR PETE INTO THE BILLIONAIRE CLASS AND WAS A FAVORITE - FAVORITE AND STARTED A PETE BILLIONAIRES DOTCOM AND MOCKING PETE WEBSITE AND CAMPAIGN GET HELP FROM THE OTHER CANDIDATES IN THIS RACE. FIRST IT WAS VICE PRESIDENT BIDEN WHO GOED OUT OF MAYOR PETE AND JOINED THIS STACK AND THEN ON FRIDAY NIGHT AMY KLOBUCHAR GOED OUT. WHAT HAPPENS -- AND THIS IS A KEY STRATEGY FOR THE CAMPAIGN WHERE THEY WERE NERVOUS ABOUT HIS RISE AND THINK ALL THE ATTENTION, THE NEGATIVE ATTENTION, REMOVED THE MOMENTUM HE WAS HAVING AND THAT'S A REFLECTION OF WHAT YOU'RE SEEING IN THE POLLS AND IN THESE RESULTS RIGHT NOW.
NOW IT IS STILL EARLY. WE WILL WAIT FOR THE REST OF THE RESULTS. BUT THE CAMPAIGN FEELS GOOD WITH WHAT YOU ARE SEEING SO FAR. THE PUBLIC HERE FEELS GOOD. THEY COUNTED UP TO THE BEGINNING OF THE HOUR ONCE THE POLLS CLOSE. EVERY TIME YOU SEE THE EXIT POLLS THUB THERE IS A GREAT MOOD. PEOPLE ARE COMING HERE FOR A LONG PERIOD OF TIME. HERE THERE WAS MORE MEDIA THAN SUPPORTERS. THERE IS A GOOD FEELING THEY HAVE HERE. THEY'RE THRILLED BY WHAT THEY'RE SEEING, CHUCK. SHAQ BREWSTER AT SANDERS HEADQUARTERS IN NEW HAMPSHIRE. THANK YOU SO MUCH.
I WANT TO BRING DAVE WASSERMAN AND THE NBC ELECTION ANALYST TO US. AND BEFORE I LEAVE YOU, BECAUSE YOU WANT TO REMIND VIEWERS THAT A LOT COULD HAPPEN HERE TONIGHT BUT DAVE ZWEIGLE HAS A FUNNY NUGGET. IF BERNIE SANDERS CAN WIN THE THUPS PRIMARY WITH LESS THAN 28% OR 28%, HE WOULD SIMULTANEOUSLY HOLD THE RECORD FOR THE HIGHEST PERCENTAGE FOR A DEMOCRATIC PRIMARY IN NEW HAMPSHIRE HISTORY AND THE LOWEST PERCENTAGE FOR A NEW HAMPSHIRE WINNER IN THE NEW HAMPSHIRE ELEMENTARY HISTORY. SO PUT THAT IN YOUR FUN FACTS BAG THERE, MR. WASSERMAN. THAT LOOKS LIKE IT WILL HAPPEN. BUT THE REMARKABLE THING IS THAT IF YOU ADD SANDERS AND WARREN, YOU GET 36.
IF YOU ADD KLOBUCHAR, BUTTIGIEG AND BIDEN, YOU GET 53. SO THIS IS THE SAME PATTERN WE SAW IN IOWA WHERE YOU HAVE THE PRAGMATIC DEMOCRAT GAIN. ADDING A MAJORITY AND THEY ARE NOT IN THE MOOD FOR BERNIE'S REVOLUTION AND THE RESULTS COULD BE BERNIE BENEFITS FROM THE CONFUSED MODERATE FIELD THAT SHOWS NO SIGNS OF RESOLUTION DIRECTED TO SOUTH CAROLINA OR SUPER TUESDAY BECAUSE THE TWO MODERATES WENT OUT THE TOP ON NEW HAMPSHIRE TONIGHT IT WAS CLEARLY BUTTIGIEG AND KLOBUCHAR, WHO DON'T HAVE THE SUPPORT OR INFRASTRUCTURE IN SOUTH CAROLINA AND MANY OF THE SUPER TUESDAY STATES THAT WOULD REALLY COMPETE WITH BLOOMBERG'S MONEY OR BIDEN'S SUPPORT AMONG BLACKS, BUT THAT'S IT AN IMPORTANT QUESTION AS TO WHERE HE WILL GO AFTER TONIGHT.
DAVE, STILL WITH ME HERE. I HOPE YOU HAVE A MONITOR. I WANT TO HIGHLIGHT A KEY COUNTY MUNICIPALITY THAT IS A SERIES OF MUNICIPALITIES AND A DIFFERENT WAY OUR NEW ENGLAND FRIENDS ORGANIZE ELECTION RESULTS FOR US. BUT KEENE WAS HUGE FOR BERNIE FOUR YEARS AGO. HOW BIG WAS KEENE? THIS BIG. HE GOT 72% OF KEENE. RIGHT NOW, LESS THAN HALF THAT AT 34%, PETE BUTTIGIEG AT 22% AND AMY AT 18%. THIS IS A LOT OF YOUNG VOTERS ARE HERE. BUT WE ALREADY HAVE ALMOST HALF THE ELECTORATE IN KEENE AND WE HAVE SEEN IN THE EXIT POLLS THE COALITION THAT BERNIE SANDERS PROMISED TO CREATE HAS NOT YET BEEN CREATED IN IOWA OR IN NEW HAMPSHIRE IF YOU JUST LOOK AT THE RAW TOTALS THERE, MR.
WASSERMANN. YES AND WE ARE NOT TALKING ABOUT A PARTICIPATION EXPLOSION BUT ELECTION CONCERNS AND BERNIE IS DOING WELL IN THE CITIES AND IN MANCHESTER AND WITH LIBERAL ACTIVISTS AND ALONG THE VERMONT BORDER BUT THE BIG QUESTION IS WHAT THESE SUBURBAN TOWNS ALONG THE MASSACHUSETTS BORDER DO WITH A LOT OF VOTES THAT WE HAVEN'T SEEN REPORTING, WHAT ARE THEY GOING TO DO? IS PETE GOING TO WIN ANY OF THEM? IS THERE ANY POTENTIAL FOR PETE TO COME BACK IN THOSE KINDS OF CITIES? I DO NOT THINK. BUT IT IS A CLEAR STATEMENT THAT BERNIE SANDERS DOES NOT HAVE THE COALITION BREADTH IN NEW HAMPSHIRE THAT HE DID IN 2016.
SOME OF HIS SUPPORTERS ARE WORRIED ABOUT WHAT HIS NOMINATION COULD MEAN IN THE FALL. DAVE WASSERMAN IN WASHINGTON FOR US. THANK YOU. WE'RE GOING TO ESCAPE ON A BREAK HERE. YOU'RE WATCHING NBC NEWS, SPECIAL COVERAGE OF THE NEW HAMPSHIRE PRESIDENTIAL PRIMARY ON "NBC NEWS NOW." ♪♪ ♪♪ ♪♪ ♪ WHITE TERRORISM AND WHITE SUPREMACIST TERRORISM IS NOT SOMETHING FOREIGN THAT LOOKS LIKE SOMETHING WE HAVE FIGHTED IN THE WAR ON TERROR. IT IS REALLY FUNDAMENTALLY AS AMERICAN AS ANYTHING. AND IT IS A THREAT TO THE OPEN, EQUAL AND MULTI RACIAL PLURALIST DEMOCRACY FOR WHICH WE HAVE FIGHTED IN THIS COUNTRY SINCE PEOPLE HAVE BEEN KILLED ON THE BATTLEFIELD IN A CIVIL WAR.
TONIGHT WE'RE GOING TO START WITH SOMETHING DIFFERENT. THIS IS ONE OF THOSE THINGS YOU MAY NOT OTHERWISE HEAR ON THE NEWS, BUT IT'S STILL WITH ME. FEED YOUR MIND WITH A FRESH PERSPECTIVE. GET YOUR FAVORITE MSNBC SHOWS NOW AS PODCASTS. IF THAT CHAOS FINDS CLARITY. IF IT IS UNDERSTANDING THE HISTORY OF THE MOMENT. IT'S VERY GREAT TO GET BAGHDADI. AND WITH SPECIAL FORCES. AND IF IT'S KEEPING EVERYONE TO THE SAME STANDARD AND IF IT'S SUNDAY, IT'S MEET THE PRESS. YOU ARE WATCHING "NBC NEWS NOW". WE HAVE SOME BREAKING NEWS. WE BRING MORE TO THE CAUCUS. THESE ARE NEWS MADE FOR YOUR STREAMING WORLD.
LIVE WEEKDAYS 3:00 TO 11:00 P.M. ORIENTAL. THE CAST OF "MEET THE PRESS" CHUCK TODD. AN INTERIOR TAKE. GET IT FREE WHEREVER YOU GET YOUR PODCASTS. KNOW YOUR TRUE SOLUTION TO CRIME ON THE GO. DATELINE EPISODES ARE AVAILABLE AS PODCASTS. MYSTERY WITH A TWIST FROM THE ORIGINAL TRUE CRIME. WOW, LISTEN TO DATELINE WHEREVER YOU GET YOUR PODCASTS. WE HAVE THE FUNDAMENTAL OF THE HUMAN BEING. AND WE HAVE THE WAY WE CONSTITUTE OUR POLITICS AND IF THEY GET TOO TRIBAL AND THEN WE WILL LOSE WAY OF SPEAKING. WHY IS THIS HAPPENING WITH CHRIS HAYES. SUBSCRIBE NOW. WELCOME BACK TO NBC'S SPECIAL COVERAGE OF THE 2020 NEW HAMPSHIRE PRESIDENTIAL PRIMARY ONLY HERE ON "NBC NEWS NOW." I'M KASIE HUNT.
CHUCK TODD WILL BE BACK IN A MOMENT AND WE ARE WAITING FOR JOE BIDEN, WHO WILL SPEAK IN A FEW MINUTES FROM SOUTH CAROLINA. NOT HERE IN THE GRANITE STATE. WE ARE NOW JOINING BOSTON GLOBE POLITICAL REPORTER JAMES KINDLE AND OF COURSE NBC NEWS WHITE HOUSE CORRESPONDENT KRISTIN WELKER. WE ALSO HAVE MSNBC HOST JOSHUA JOHNSON ON FUTURE-CAST AND MOVE-ON.ORG DIRECTOR OF PUBLIC AFFAIRS CAREEN JOHN PIERRE. AND KRISTEN, YOU TALKED TO THE FORMER VICE PRESIDENT TODAY. A PRETTY DIFFICULT DAY FOR HIM IN NEW HAMPSHIRE. TO THE POINT WHERE HE WAS PRETTY IMPRESSIVE: HE'S BEEN THE LEADING ALL THIS TIME AND DID NOT EVEN WIN A DELEGATE IN NEW HAMPSHIRE.
NOT EVEN EARNING A DELEGATE HERE IN NEW HAMPSHIRE, KASIE. IT CANNOT BE EXTREME. THIS IS ANOTHER DEVASTATING BACKBACK FOR THE BIDEN CAMPAIGN. FOR THE FORMER VICE PRESIDENT, HIS ENTIRE ARGUMENT FOCUSED ON ELIGIBILITY AND HE WAS THE STRONGEST CANDIDATE TO BEAT PRESIDENT TRUMP AND NOW THE RESULTS IN IOWA AND WHAT WE ARE SEEING IN NEW HAMPSHIRE, AT THIS MOMENT THAT IS QUESTIONING IT. TODAY I TALKED TO HIM BEFORE. I SAID WHAT A MESSAGE YOU ARE SENDING TO THE VOTERS IN NEW HAMPSHIRE BY GOING TO SOUTH CAROLINA TONIGHT. ARE YOU WORRIED ABOUT THAT? HE SAID WE ARE STILL FIGHTING FOR EVERY VOTE HERE BUT OF COURSE, OF COURSE HE THINKS SOUTH CAROLINA IS THE PLACE WHERE HE IS GOING TO PUT ALL OF HIS ENERGY RIGHT NOW.
TO TRY TO TURN THIS RACE AROUND FOR HIM. HE BELIEVES THE ELECTORATE IS MORE DIVERSE THERE AND HAS MORE SUPPORT AMONG AFRICAN-AMERICAN VOTERS AND WOOF HEARD HIM TALK ABOUT THAT A LOT. SO I HAVE ASKED HIM IN BLANK, IS IT SOUTH CAROLINA OR BUST. I WAS NOT WILLING TO ACKNOWLEDGE THAT. I BELIEVE IT IS A REALITY THAT IS APPROACHING. JAMES KINDLE, KRISTEN MENTIONS HOW JOE BIDEN WAS IN NEW HAMPSHIRE IN CLOSING HOURS HERE. WHAT KIND OF IMPACT DO YOU THINK IT HAS? I WAS IN THE -- LIKE WE TALKED BEFORE. NEW HAMPSHIRE LOVES THE COMEBACK STORY AND IT HAPPENS OVER AND OVER.
NEVER REALLY GAVE THEM THAT KIND OF ATTABOY. MORE THAN ONE INTELLECTUAL ARGUMENT. IT'S UNBELIEVABLE IF YOU TAKE A STEP BACK FOR A SECOND, HE WAS THE FORMER VICE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES. HE HAS RUN FOR PRESIDENT TWICE BEFORE. BOTH TIMES HE NEVER MADE IT TO NEW HAMPSHIRE ELEMENTARY. MARK MURRAY MENTIONED HE HAS YET TO WIN A STATE IN A PRESIDENTIAL RACE. ALSO TRUE. AND THE INCREDIBLE THING HERE IS THAT HE WAS NEVER THE INEVITABLE NOMINEE AND WAS THE TOP FOR A LONG TIME. BUT IT WAS NEVER ABLE TO CREATE MOMENTUM OTHER THAN THE FACT THAT IT STARTED OUT SO STRONG.
CORRINE JOHN PIERRE, TALKS ABOUT WHERE BIDEN GOES FROM HERE IN SOUTH CAROLINA. BECAUSE THERE ARE SO MANY CONVERSATIONS IN PARTICULAR ABOUT THE AFRICAN-AMERICAN VOTE AND THE SHORTHAND RECORD AS IF IT IS A BLOCK AND IT IS NOT NECESSARILY WHAT IS IMPORTANT TO UNDERLINE, I THINK. THAT SAID, THE NARRATIVE WITH JOE BIDEN IS THAT HE IS TIING BARACK OBAMA. THE THEORY WAS ALWAYS THAT BLACK VOTERS NEVER WENT FOR OBAMA UNTIL HE PROVED HE COULD WIN. AND THE JOE BIDEN CAMPAIGN KEEPS SAYING THAT AFRICAN-AMERICAN VOTERS ARE THEIR WALL OF FIRE AND UNTIL NOW HAS NOT SHOWED THEM THATYOU CAN WIN.
AND THE REASON WHY THE BLACK VOTER STAYED WITH BIDEN FOR SO LONG, YES, THAT CONNECTION WITH BARACK OBAMA BEING NUMBER TWO THAT AFFECTION THEY HAD FOR JOE BIDEN. BUT YOU CAN'T HAVE THAT ELIGIBILITY ARGUMENT IF YOU KEEP LOSING STATES, ESPECIALLY BEFORE SOUTH CAROLINA. REAL BLACK VOTERS ARE WATCHING. WE HAVE TO REMEMBER THAT THE FIRST THING FOR THEM IS TO BEAT DONALD TRUMP. AND IT'S GOING TO BE INCREDIBLY PROBLEMATIC FOR BIDEN. YOU HAVE TO RAISE MONEY. HOW ARE YOU GOING TO SUSTAIN THE FUNDRAISER FOR THE NEXT WEEKS AND HAVE THAT OPERATION ON THE GROUND IF YOU ARE NOT PUTTING SOME PROFITS ON THE BOARD?
AND AS YOU SAID, AND DAVID HAS ALSO SAID MANY TIMES ON THIS AIR, IT IS THAT IOWA WINS FOR IOWA FOR OBAMA WON SOUTH CAROLINA, THE BLACK VOTERS THERE, THE CONFIDENCE THAT HE WAS VIABLE. THAT HE WAS ELIGIBLE. AND BIDEN JUST DON'T HAVE THAT EXCEPT UNDERSTANDING AND KNOWING BLACK VOTERS AND UNDERSTANDING AND KNOWING THAT HE IS A STORMER VICE PRESIDENT AND LOOKS AND LOOKS LIKE HE COULD TACKLE DONALD TRUMP. SO THIS IS -- THIS IS NUMBER FIVE IN NEW HAMPSHIRE IT'S A HIT. AND WHAT IS YOUR SENSE OF WHERE THIS SUPPORT GOES IF, IN FACT, JOE BIDEN LOSES SUPPORT AMONG BLACK AMERICANS AND PETE BUTTIGIEG HAS REALLY STRUGGLED WITH BLACK VOTERS AND BERNIE SANDERS IS GETTING BETTER.
HIS CAMPAIGN WORKED HARD ON THIS BUT HE'S ALSO FIGHTING WITH AFRICAN-AMERICAN VOTERS IN THE PAST. WHERE DO THEY GO BACK? IT'S BEEN A CONVERSATION WE'VE ALL HAD. AS AMY KLOBUCHAR IS GOING TO HAVE A PROBLEM WITH BLACK VOTERS BECAUSE OF HIS RECORD AS A PROSECUTOR IN MINNESOTA. PETE BUTTIGIEG, AS WE KNOW IN THE MAYOR OF SOUTH BEND, HAS HAD MULTIPLE PROBLEMS WITH HIS... WITH THE BLACK COMMUNITY AND THE FIRING OF THE HEAD OF THE PLACE THERE AND OTHER ISSUES THAT HAVE ARISCED DURING THE CAMPAIGN. THE PEOPLE WE HEAR THAT I HEAR OR THE PERSON IS... MANY BLACK VOTERS ARE LOOKING AT BLOOMBERG AS SOMEONE THEY COULD GO TO.
PEOPLE I HAVE BEEN TALKING TO IN THE SOUTHERN STATES IN PARTICULAR LIKE SOUTH CAROLINA WHICH IS AN IMPORTANT KEY STATE FOR JOE BIDEN AS WE ARE TALKING ABOUT AND THE REASON THEY SEE HIM AS THIS TRUE BILLIONAIRE WHO COULD TAKE ON DONALD TRUMP. SEE IT GETS UNDER DONALD TRUMP'S SKIN. AND LIKE I SAID -- WELL TRUMP HAS SHOWN HIMSELF. RIGHT. BY TEETING CONSTANTLY ABOUT HIM. AND THE MONEY HE IS SPENDING ON AIR AND TELLING HIS STORY, GIVING THAT NARRATIVE TO THE VOTERS ABOUT WHAT HE IS AND HAS NOT BEEN PROVEN. SO IT LOOKS GOOD. HE LOOKS LIKE SOMEONE WHO COULD TAKE ON DONALD TRUMP.
AND THAT IS ALSO AN INTERESTING DEVELOPMENT. IF BIDEN FALLS, I THINK THAT'S WHERE A LOT OF AFRICAN-AMERICAN VOTERS WILL GO. THEY ARE GOING TO EXPLORE BLOOMBERG FOR THE REAL WAY. WE ARE WATCHING THE FIGHT STARTING TO PLAY WITH YOUR COMMENTS ON THE STOP AND FRISK POLICY IN NEW YORK CITY. LET'S GO GARRETT HAAKE LIVE IN CONCORD, NEW HAMPSHIRE WITH THE KLOBUCHAR CAMPAIGN. GOOD TO SEE YOU. I THINK MY QUESTION IS HOW AMY KLOBUCHAR DOES, AND THIS IS A BIG NIGHT FOR HER NO DOUBT THE BUMP DEBATE AND HER PERFORMANCE WAS REAL BUT WHERE DOES IT GO FROM HERE.
DOES HE HAVE THE MONEY AND THE ORGANIZATION AND THE JUICE TO TURN THIS INTO SOMETHING OR IS IT A STEEP ROAD FOR HER? Reporter: THAT'S THE REAL CHALLENGE, KASIE. THEY ARE BUILDING THE PLANE IN THE AIR. KLOBUCHAR ONLY HAS ABOUT 30 EMPLOYEES IN NEVADA. MANY WENT THERE IMMEDIATELY AFTER IOWA ENDED. THEY JUST CHANGED STATE. SH OF THEM WAS DECEIVED BY BETO O'ROURKE WHEN HIS CAMPAIGN STOP BEING A THING. WITH ADS AND NEVADA TRYING TO RUN AUD THERE BUT HE HAS A CHALLENGE AHEAD AND HAS TO PRESENT TO THE VOTERS IN NEVADA. EVEN LESS IN SOUTH CAROLINA AND THE SUPER TUESDAY STATES DON'T GET ME STARTED.
THIS IS SOMEONE WHO GOT A BIG SHOW IN IOWA TO STAY IN THE FIGHT AND THEN CREATE THIS MOMENT HERE IN NEW HAMPSHIRE. I TALKED ABOUT HER IN THE WEEK AND SHE SAID LOOK I WILL CONTINUE TO OVERCOME EVERY OBSTACLE I CAN AND THAT IS A REASONABLE POLITICAL STRATEGY IN THE FIRST FOUR STATES ONCE YOU GET INTO SUPER TUESDAY THERE ARE OBSTACLES AND YOU HAVE TO JUMP OVER THERE . PEOPLE ARE ALREADY VOTING IN CALIFORNIA. SO THIS IS A CHALLENGE FOR THE CAMPAIGN. THEY ARE TRYING TO TURN TONIGHT INTO A GREAT FUNDRAISING OPPORTUNITY TO BOOST HER NAME RECOGNITION AND HOPE TO BUILD WHAT THEY DON'T WANT TO HAPPEN IS TO MAKE SHE GO THE PATH OF SOMEONE ELSE WHO SHOWED UP IN THIS VERY HALL DANCE FOUR YEARS AFTER GOOD NIGHT IN NEW HAMPSHIRE, JOHN KASICH.
SOMEONE WHO EMERGED AS A CHALLENGER OF THE NOMINE THAT ENDED LIKE THIS. SO AHEAD OF AMY KLOBUCHAR, AT LEAST THEY HAVE SOME WIND AT THEIR BACK AND NOT MANY OTHER CANDIDATES CAN SAY RIGHT NOW. AND OF COURSE THERE IS NO SIGN THAT ELIZABETH WARREN WERE QUESTIONING WHILE LISTENING TO HER WHETHER AMY KLOBUCHAR WOULD BE ABANDONED OR SUPPORTED. HE IS CLEARLY NOT READY TO DO SOMETHING LIKE THAT THERE. GARRETT HAAKE, YOU ARE IN AN INTERESTING PLACE FOR THE NIGHT. THANK YOU. THE BIDEN CAMPAIGN HAS BEEN REPORTING FOR A POTENTIALLY DISAPPOINTING END TONIGHT AND TODAY ANNOUNCED THAT BIDEN WOULD NOT BE IN NEW HAMPSHIRE FOR TONIGHT'S RESULTS.
LET'S BRING ON MARIANNE SOTOMAYOR AFTER THE BIDEN CAMPAIGN. AND CHUCK TODD RETURNS WITH US FROM THE NBC NEWS SPECIAL. HELLO. WHAT IS THE STATE OF -- WE WERE SHOCKED BEFORE BY THE STATE OF THE BALLROOM BEHIND YOU, THIS OF COURSE IS THE EVENT BIDEN IS HAVING HERE IN NEW HAMPSHIRE WHERE HE AND DR. BIDEN IS NO LONGER AND A REALLY DISAPPOINTING FINISH THAT HE HAD. Reporter: SORRY KASIE, I'M TRYING TO LISTEN TO YOU. I AM BE -- WE HAVE VALERIE BIDEN OWENS BEHIND ME. SHE'S SUPPOSED TO INTRODUCE HER BROTHER MOMENTARILY, WHO'S GOING TO BE DIRECTING THE NUMBERS OF FANS HERE.
THERE ARE ABOUT 100 PEOPLE IN THE ROOM. BUT MANY OF THE PEOPLE I TALKED TO ARE VOLUNTEERS. PEOPLE WHO HAVE COMED FROM OUT OF TOWN, FROM PENNSYLVANIA TO NEW YORK. VERY FEW PEOPLE FROM NEW HAMPSHIRE HERE. BUT OF THE PEOPLE I TALKED TO, A LOT OF PEOPLE WERE SURPRISED. THEY WERE EXPECTING BIDEN TO BE HERE TONIGHT AND DID NOT KNOW UNTIL THEY WALKED INTO THE BALLROOM. OBVIOUSLY, VERY DIFFERENT FROM WHEN I TALKED TO YOU A COUPLE OF HOURS AGO WHEN THERE WAS NO ONE IN THE ROOM. PEOPLE ARE STILL SAYING I TALKED TO THEM. I SAID, HEY, WERE YOU SURPRISED, ARE YOU MAD THAT BIDEN ISN'T HERE?
AND AS YOU CAN SEE, THERE IS A LIVE STREAM ON MY SHOULDER RIGHT NOW WITH BIDEN AND DR. JILL BIDEN NOW ADDRESSING THE ROOM. WHY DON'T WE HEAR THAT. ALL GOOD. WE WILL KEEP MONITORING YOUR LIVE THERE AS YOU HAVE TO JUMP TO THAT. I THINK WE ALL EXPECTED MORE FROM A BIDEN IN SOUTH CAROLINA AND THEN HE ADDRESSED THE REPORTERS IN NEW HAMPSHIRE. YES. AN INTERESTING DECISION. I THINK REMARKABLE THAT MARIAN A REPORTED, I WANT TO SAY, IN NEW HAMPSHIRE, IT WAS HARD TO FIND PEOPLE FROM NEW HAMPSHIRE AT A LOT OF THOSE EVENTS. JAMES.
LOOK AT SATURDAY NIGHT. SATURDAY NIGHT WAS A BIG DEMOCRATIC DINNER AND IT WAS SOME OF A PARTICIPATION DRIVE TO SHOW OFF A LITTLE INFRASTRUCTURE. MAYO'S FAVORITE PART WAS WARREN HE HAD SO MANY SEATS. A LITTLE AND PEOPLE SAID, YOU ARE NOT GOING TO BUY THE TICKETS, WE BUY THEM. WARREN, BIDEN, WARREN BECAUSE BIDEN COULD NOT GET MORE THAN 250 PEOPLE OUT. LET'S CHECK BUTTIGIEG'S CAMPAIGN. VAN HILLIARD, ONE OF OUR ROAD WARRIORS WITH PETE BUTTIGIEG. IT IS INTERESTING. LIKE IOWA, IT'S HAD ENOUGH -- IT'S DOING PRETTY WELL IN -- WELL ENOUGH IN SOME OF THESE AREAS TO SURPRISE NO ONE, BUT IT HAS AN OVERALL PERFORMANCE TONIGHT THAT IS SIMILAR TO WHAT WE SAW IN LESS DEMOGRAPHICALLY IN IOWA.
RIGHT NOW PRETTY WELL, BETTER THAN ANYONE OTHER THAN BERNIE SANDERS IS DOING HERE. YOU KNOW, OVER THE LAST 48 HOURS I REALLY THINK WE HAVE BEEN TALKING ABOUT THOSE INDEPENDENT VOTERS. 415,000 REGISTERED INDEPENDENT VOTERS HERE IN THE STATE PARTICIPATE IN THIS PROCESS. THE NBC NEWS EXIT POLL, DURING THE BREAKDOWN OF INDIVIDUALS DESCRIBING THEMSELVES AS INDEPENDENT VOTERS WHO PARTICIPATED IN TODAY'S DEMOCRATIC PRIMARY, ACCOUNTED FOR 45%. OF THAT 25% I VOTE FOR BERNIE SANDERS. 24% TO AMY KLOBUCHAR. 21% FOR PETE BUTTIGIEG UP TO 8% WAS JOE BIDEN. I THINK THE THING THAT SAYS THE MOST ABOUT THIS IS THAT FOUR YEARS AGO IN THAT NUMBER, THE SHARE OF INDEPENDENT VOTERS WAS 70% TO 25% FOR BERNIE SANDERS.
SO IT IS CLEAR. HOW SIZE? MAYBE ENOUGH TO GET THIS A LITTLE CLOSE TO PETE BUTTIGIEG AND AMY KLOBUCHAR. OBVIOUSLY, PETE BUTTIGIEG WAS SEEKING IN THIS RACE TO ATTRACT AN EVEN LARGER SECTION OF INDEPENDENT VOTERS. CLEARLY AMY KLOBUCHAR SHORT ON HER. WHEN WE ARE TALKING ABOUT PETE BUTTIGIEG'S CAMPAIGN, YOU KNOW, TAKE INTO ACCOUNT A YEAR AGO HE HAD NO OPERATION HERE. BERNIE SANDERS AND ELIZABETH WARREN WAS FROM A NEIGHBORING STATE AND PETE BUTTIGIEG DURING THE YEAR WAS ABLE TO BUILD A LAND ORGANIZATION ALONG WITH A NETWORK OF VOLUNTEERS AND UNTIL YESTERDAY HE VISITED A TOWN, CHUCK, YOU WERE WITH ME, IN PLYMOUTH.
A VILLAGE OF 7,000. THIS WAS BY 15 PERCENTAGE POINTS FOR DONALD TRUMP OVERALL. BERNIE SANDERS WON IT 80 -- 20% OVER HILLARY CLINTON TWO YEARS AGO. WHERE DOES PETE BUTTIGIEG GO FOR A FINAL STOP? THERE. HAVE NOT GETTED RESULTS FROM THERE. WHILE WE PAY ATTENTION TO MANCHESTER, THERE ARE MANY COMMUNITIES WHERE PETE BUTTIGIEG'S CAMPAIGN PROVIDED RESOURCES AND TIME TO TRY TO PICK UP THE VOTES IN SOME OF THESE MORE RURAL COMMUNITIES AND PRESENT THE CASE TO THE REST OF THE COUNTRY THAT WE WERE ABLE TO WIN IN THE RURAL PARTS OF IOWA AND NEW HAMPSHIRE. VAUGHN HILLIARD AT THE BUTTIGIEG HEADQUARTERS.
THEY ARE EXCITED AS THEY SEE MORE RESULTS. WHAT I FIND INTERESTING, ONE OF THE THINGS WE CANNOT OVERLOOK IS THAT AMY KLOBUCHAR MAY HAVE SAVED BERNIE SANDERS IN NEW HAMPSHIRE ELEMENTARY. SO IT IS. HIS PERFORMANCE ON FRIDAY NIGHT. HIS PERFORMANCE ON FRIDAY NIGHT. REMARKABLE TO SEE THE REACTION AND SEE THIS HAPPEN IN REAL TIME, AND IT IS CERTAINLY SEEN TRYING TO CAPITALIZE ON EVERY EVENT. ONE THING I'VE FOUND REMARKABLE, CHUCK, ABOVE THIS MOMENT, YOU ASK FORMER VICE PRESIDENT JOE BIDEN WHAT IS THE HAYES PATH. HE SPEAKS FROM SOUTH CAROLINA. TALK ABOUT SUPER TUESDAY. TODAY I ASKED SENATOR WARREN WHAT IS HER PATH AFTER NEW HAMPSHIRE, AND SHE SAID GET PEOPLE TOGETHER.
TO JOIN THE PARTY. AND I THINK SHE HAS A HARDER IDENTIFY WHAT HAPPENS NEXT, WHERE IT GOES FROM HERE. SHE GAVE US A HINT WHERE IT IS UNDERSTANDING AWESOME. YES I THINK -- IT IS SO. THE SUBTEXT OF HIS ILLUSIONS FOR THE PROGRESSIVE, FOR THE SUPPORTERS OF BERNIE SANDERS, AND WE KNOW THERE IS SOME PERSONAL ANIMOSSION. RIGHT. CAN SHE POSITION AS SOMEONE WHO HELP MODERATELY ATTRACTS THE CROWD, RIGHT? SO - AND THAT'S HER CHALLENGE. IT COULD BE THAT -- BUT DO YOU NEED TO BE A LITTLE SACUTER TO DO THAT? SHE IS NOT YET READY TO REALLY MAKE THAT BIG DISTINCTION.
HERE IS WHAT WE ALL WONDER. WHEN DOES ONE OF THE THREE PRINCIPALS COME OUT? DO YOU TRY TO EXIT BEFORE ONE OR MORE OF THE NETWORKS DECIDE THEY ARE COMING TO CALL THIS? GET THE LATEST DEVELOPMENTS FROM TEAM SANDERS AND SHAQ BREWSTER. SHAQ, AS THE RESULTS ARE COMING IN, WE SAW YOUR POINT WIDEN TO FIVE PERCENTAGE POINTS. THAT HAD TO MAKE THEM FEEL A LITTLE BETTER. WE KNOW THAT SOUTHERN NEW HAMPSHIRE TOWNSHIP HAS NOT REPORTED. WE DID NOT KNOW WHAT LATE VOTERS WERE GOING TO DO. YOU MUST FEEL A LITTLE BETTER NOW THAN AN HOUR AGO.
THAT'S EXACTLY RIGHT, CHUCK. AS YOU CAN SEE BY THE SUPPORTERS HERE, THEY FEEL GOOD ABOUT WHAT THEY'RE SEEING. LAST TIME I TALKED TO YOU, THE CROWD BEHIND... THE PEOPLE ON THE LADDER, THEY STARTED TO COMPLETE THAT. WE DON'T KNOW WHEN SENATOR SANDERS WILL BE OUT. IT'S NOT CLEAR. HIS TEAM DOESN'T SAY YET. THE ROOM IS FILLING UP RIGHT NOW. THE PEOPLE ARE SINGING. THEY HAD A "WE ARE UNSTOPPABLE, DONALD TRUMP HAS TO GO" SONG. THE MOOD IS CELEBRATIVE WHILE WE CONTINUE WAITING FOR THE RESULTS TO ARRIVE. THE ONLY THING I HAVE TO NOTE, CHUCK, IS HOW MUCH SENATOR SANDERS HAS INVESTED IN THIS STATE.
HE IS THE NEIGHBOR SENATOR AND HE WON HERE IN 2016. HE HAS THIS HOME ADVANTAGE HERE IN NEW HAMPSHIRE, BUT HE HAS ALSO INVESTED A LOT IN NEW HAMPSHIRE. HE SPENT MORE ON TELEVISION AIRWAYS, AROUND $5.5 MILLION, THAN ANY OTHER CANDIDATE EXCEPT TOM STEYER. YOUR TEAM OF VOLUNTEERS HAVE KNOCKED ON DOORS. THEY KNOCKED ON SOME 700,000 DOORS. THEY SPEND A LOT OF TIME HERE, PUT A LOT OF EFFORT. SENATOR SANDERS EARLIER TODAY IN AN INTERVIEW I HAD WITH HIM SAID THAT IT IS MEDIA SPECULATION WHEN WE SAY THERE IS A MUST WIN STATE FOR A CANDIDATE. THIS IS A STATE THAT WE HAVE BEEN WATCHING CLOSELY BECAUSE HE COULD NOT DO HERE WITH EVERYTHING HE INVESTED, WITH ALL THE STOPS HE MADE, THE EVENTS HE HAD, IT WOULD HAVE BEEN A QUESTION, OPEN A QUESTION TO THAT KEY ARGUMENT FROM ELECTABILITY, THAT HE CAN PROVIDE ENERGY AND EMOTION.
AT THIS MOMENT PEOPLE HERE FEEL IT IS PROVING TRUE. THROW. SHAQ BREWSTER, THANK YOU SO MUCH. ANDREA MITCHELL HAS JOINED THE TABLE. HEY, NICE TO SEE YOU. I KNOW WHERE YOU WERE IN 1992. RIGHT HERE COVERING THE COMEBACK KID. THE INTERESTING THING ABOUT THAT NIGHT IS HOW QUICKLY I DECLARED VICTORY. I AM A LITTLE SURPRISED WE HAVE NOT HEARD FROM AMY KLOBUCHAR YET. YOU ARE IN THIS POSITION, YOU THINK YOU HAVE HAD A GREAT NIGHT. YOU BETTER SAY YOU HAD A GREAT NIGHT BEFORE PETE BUTTIGIEG AND BERNIE SANDERS SAY THAT TOO. SHE COULD SAY I'M CLEARLY IN THE TOP THREE.
MORE TO COME. YES. THEY MAY BE WAITING TO SEE HOW HIGH IT CAN GO. I CAN TELL YOU THIS. THE REASON WHY WE HAVE NOT CALLED THE RACE IS A LARGE PART OF THE VOTES HAS NOT BEEN COUNTED, WE WANT TO SEE SOME OF THE MOST REPUBLICAN PRECINTS, THE MUNICIPALITIES THATTHEY ARE COMING, THE LATE VOTERS YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT THAT MIGHT, WHEN YOU SAW THE EXIT POLLS AT 5:00, THIS COULD GET OLD. AND THAT'S WHAT WE ARE WAITING FOR. THERE ARE ALSO A LOT OF PEOPLE. IT'S NOT JUST LIKE, OH THIS INTERESTING AREA, THIS INTERESTING AREA. POPULATION.
I MEAN, LITERALLY HALF THE POPULATION LIVES IN THE SOUTHERN TWO COUNTIES OF NEW HAMPSHIRE. THIS IS A LOT OF VOTERS WE ARE TALKING ABOUT. BTW, WE DO KNOW SOME DELEGATES HERE, AMY HAS WON AT LEAST THREE, PLACING THIRD. BUTTIGIEG WON AT LEAST SIX, BERNIE AT LEAST SEVEN. IT'S PROBABLY A 9-8-7. THAT'S A THREE WAY DELEGATE TIE. I WAS TELLING ANNIE CUSTER, THE ONLY MEMBER OF CONGRESS IN THIS STATE, SHE PICKED PETE BECAUSE SHE THOUGHT HE COULD GO THE DISTANCE AND HE WAS RIDING THE KIND OF CAMPAIGN THAT COULD BE A NATIONAL CAMPAIGN. SHE SAYS TOO MUCH VOTES IN THE SOUTH TIER COULD BE FAVORABLE WITH HIM.
SHE IS SATISFIED WITH DARTMOUTH'S RESULTS, WHICH ARE ABSOLUTELY COLLEGE STUDENTS -- AND HANOVER, I HAVE HEARD OF THESE RESULTS TOO. I HAVE HEARD THIS FROM MULTIPLE CAMPAIGNS YOU HAVE BEEN RECEIVING AND, JAMES, HANOVER IS HUGE -- BERNIE WON BIG. THEY CLAIM -- I THINK THE BUTTIGIEG PEOPLE CLAIM THEY ARE GOING TO WIN HANOVER. THEY SPEND A LOT OF TIME THERE. THE GREATEST NUMBER IS THE CONTINUOUS VILLAGE, LEBANON. THAT'S WHERE THE HOSPITAL IS. THAT'S WHERE MUCH OF THE DARTMOUTH COMMUNITY IS. HANOVER IS A SMALLER CITY. BUT, YES, ONE OF THE THREE: HANOVER, HOPKINSON AND HENIKER. YES. WE WERE TALKING AT IOWA CAUCUS NIGHT ABOUT PETE BUTTIGIEG AND HIS ABILITY TO APPEAL TO A CROSS SECTION OF VOTERS IN A WAY THAT OTHER CANDIDATES SEEM TO STRUGGLE TO DO.
BERNIE SANDERS HAS AN OBVIOUS APPEAL WITH YOUNG PEOPLE. JOE BIDEN WAS APPEALING TO OLDER VOTERS. PEOPLE WERE APPROPRIAPING A PART OF THAT YOUNGER VOTE THAT COULD BE INTERESTING. SOMETHING MORE ABOUT GENDER. WHAT CONGRESSMAN CUSTER IS POINTING OUT IS THAT THERE IS A SUPPRESSED DESIRE AMONG DEMOCRATIC WOMEN TO VOTE FOR A WOMAN. YOU HAVE HAD TWO WOMEN GOVERNORS HERE, AN ENTIRE DELEGATION OF WOMEN IN CONGRESS. THE ENTIRE DELEGATION WAS FEMALE AT ONE MOMENT. FOR ONE CYCLE, RIGHT? RIGHT. THEY SAY THE DEBATE, AND WARREN WAS NOT. WARREN, IN HIS PARTIVAL OPINION, BECAUSE HE IS A BUTTIGIEG PERSON, HE FELT WARREN WAS GIVING THE SAME SPEECH.
THAT'S A GOOD POINT. IN THE PREVIOUS MONTHS THERE WERE MANY WOMEN WHO WANTED TO VOTE FOR A WOMAN AND WERE NOT IDEOLOGICALLY COMFORTABLE WITH ELIZABETH WARREN BUT SHE WAS THE ONLY OPTION FOR THEM, THE ONLY REAL WOMAN. NOW THAT KLOBUCHAR IS THERE, SHE -- DAVID, KLOBUCHAR'S CAMPAIGN, YOU HAVE TO BUILD THE PLANE AS IT TAKES OFF, ONE OF MY FAVORITE CLICHES. BUILD THE PLANE IN THE AIR. FIRST OF ALL, ARE YOU SURPRISED? I'm assuming if you were advising her, you'd hurry up and declare victory, Amy Klobuchar, tonight, whatever you think looks like. YES, I WOULD BE OUT RIGHT NOW.
AT THE END OF THE DAY, HE STILL CAME THIRD. SO IF YOU WANT TO GET EVERYTHING YOU CAN FROM THE THIRD. YOUR FUNDRAISING EMAILS, YOU KNOW, ARE ADDRESSED TO ONE STATE SO YOU'RE SOMEWHERE ON THE CALENDAR TOMORROW MORNING. YES, IT IS A TACTICAL QUESTION. I AM SURPRISED THEY ARE NOT HERE RIGHT NOW. I REALLY AM FOR THAT. UNTIL THEIR POINT OF BUILDING THE PLANE, THAT'S WHAT THEY HAVE TO DO. PETE IS IN A LITTLE STRONGER POSITION FINANCIALLY. HE HAS TO DO IT TOO. THERE ARE ABOUT A HUNDRED AIRPORTS BETWEEN NOW AND SUPER TUESDAY. SO, YOU KNOW, THERE'S NOT ENOUGH: BUTTIGIEG AND AMY, I MEAN EVEN SANDERS, WILL HAVE TO MAKE VERY HARD DECISIONS ABOUT RESOURCES, CANDIDATE TIME, SUBSTITUTE TIME, MONEY, STAFF.
THE ENTIRE FIELD OF PLAY CANNOT BE COVERED. AND SO AMY KLOBUCHAR'S CAMPAIGN NEED TO MODEL HOW MUCH MONEY CAN WE RAISE DURING THE NEXT SEVEN DAYS? HOW ARE WE GOING TO SPEND THAT? THEY HAVE HAD A LOT OF STAFF IN NEW HAMPSHIRE. WHERE DO YOU SEND THEM? AGAIN I THINK THERE WILL BE SOME CANDIDATES WHO SAY, YOU KNOW WHAT? I'M PLANTING MY FLAG IN THREE OR FOUR STATES ON SUPER TUESDAY. THEY ARE NOT GOING TO BE NOMINATED IN MY OPINION BECAUSE THEY ARE NOT GOING TO DO WELL ENOUGH ELSEWHERE. THAT WILL BE INTERESTING BECAUSE IT COULD AFFECT THE PEOPLE AT THE TOP OF THE TICKET IF THEY HAVE A COUPLE OF CANDIDATES MISSING IN ONE STATE AND KEEP THE DELEGATION HAUL DOWN.
IF YOU ARE PETE BUTTIGIEG'S CAMPAIGN, YOU HAVE TO, ON THE ONE HAND, LOOK AT THIS AND THINK, OH MY GOD, IF THERE WASN'T A LOT ABOUT ME DURING THE LAST THREE DAYS, IN THE DEBATE, THE DIGITAL ATTACK OF BIDEN, I COULD HAVE WON THIS THING. AT THE SAME TIME YOU ARE STILL STANDING. AMY KLOBUCHAR HAS NOT ACCEPTED THE PROVERBIAL CAMPAIGN COUP. BUTTIGIEG TAKEN HIS FIRST PUNCH. WHAT DO YOU MAKE OF THAT? WELL I DON'T KNOW. BUTTIGIEG DID NOT MAKE IT SO BAD. IF YOU LOOK AT THE QUINNIPIAC POLLS THAT CAME OUT BEFORE THIS ELECTION, PETE BUTTIGIEG WAS IN SINGLE DIGITS WITH A NUMBER OF INVOLVED DEMOGRAPHICS.
HE WAS NOT NEAR THE TOP AT LEAST WHAT THE SURVEY WOULD HAVE PROJECTED HE HAD DONE. MAYBE CLEARED A LITTLE ACROSS A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT DEMOGRAPHICS ACROSS THE DASHBOARD. THE OTHER THING IS SOLIDLY ATTRACTIVE TO A GROUP, BUT MAYBE A LITTLE OF A VARIETY. I HAVE HEARD A NUMBER OF REASONS PEOPLE LIKE PETE BUTTIGIEG, EITHER BECAUSE OF HIS POLICIES OR BEING MORE MODERATE AND BEING ABLE TO REMOVE FORMER OBAMA VOTERS WHO WENT TO DONALD TRUMP. I THINK IT WILL PROBABLY BE A GOOD NIGHT NOT ONLY FOR PETE BUTTIGIEG, BUT FOR AMY KLOBUCHAR AS WELL. I THINK THE LAST DEBATE AND THE DEBATE BEFORE THAT, AT LEAST MY REACTION TO HER PERFORMANCE, SHE GOT A LOT OF PESOS FOR HER.
LIKE SHE - I THINK SHE - SAID THIS ABRAHAM LINCOLN QUOTE A MILLION TIMES, WITH PUBLIC FEELING NOTHING CAN FAIL, WITHOUT IT NOTHING CAN SUCCEED. AND I THINK AMY KLOBUCHAR HAS BEEN SUCCESSFUL IN MAYBE A WAY THAT ELIZABETH WARREN HAS NOT. I DON'T KNOW. I THINK SHE WAS SUCCESSFUL IN SOME WAYS AND JUST MAKING PEOPLE FEEL HER, MAKING PEOPLE EMPATHY WITH HER, CONNECT WITH HER. THERE IS A SERIOUSNESS TO HER, AN AGENCY TO HER THAT SEEMS TO HAVE WON OVER SOME PEOPLE BESIDES HER POLICIES. SOMEONE WRITED TO ME ON FACEBOOK MENTIONED, YOU KNOW, THEIR HEART ABOUT THE WAY HE CONNECTS WITH THEM.
THAT MAY HAVE BOUGHT OUT WELL FOR HER TONIGHT. SHE ALSO JUST STANDED UP FOR WASHINGTON. GOOD? IN A WAY. HARD WORK. SAYING IT'S EASY TO RUN AGAINST WASHINGTON. YES. SHE DID, YES. AND SHE WAS WILLING TO MAKE THOSE SCORES IN WAYS THAT I THINK VOTERS CLEARLY FOUND ATTRACTIVE INSTEAD OF DISCOURAGEOUS. AND THAT IS, FRANKLY, A HARD LINE TO WALK. THE OTHER THING I SAY ABOUT KLOBUCHAR IS THAT SHE HAS BEEN VERY CAREFUL WITH HER RESOURCES. SHE HAD TO BE. SHE HAD THE MOST MONEY OR THE LARGEST ORGANIZATION. KAMALA HARRIS, CORY BOOKER, BETO O'ROURKE ARE NOT IN THIS RACE.
IT WAS WORTH IT. HE DOES WHAT HE HAS TO DO TO STAY AND WAIT FOR THE MOMENTS. WE ARE MOMENTS AWAY FROM HEARING FROM JOE BIDEN. A SET OF OBSERVATIONS THAT MANY PEOPLE ARE INTERESTED IN. LET'S CONSULT MIKE IN SOUTH CAROLINA. MIKE, IT'S A GOOD CROWD THAT CAME THERE. SO I HAVE TO THINK YOU CAN GIVE THE VICE PRESIDENT A LITTLE ENERGY TONIGHT? Reporter: YES, ABSOLUTELY. WE HAVE COVERED JOE BIDEN ALL THESE YEARS. I REALIZED THAT PROBABLY NO OTHER POLITICIAN FEEDS SO MUCH ON THE ENERGY OF THE CROWD. IN IOWA IT DID NOT ATTRACT VERY GOOD, ENTHUSIASTIC CROWDS.
WE WILL HEAR FROM THE CONGRESSMAN -- RECENTLY THE CHAIRMAN OF THE CONGRESSIVE BLACK CAUCUS. HE IS BIDEN'S NATIONAL CO-CHAIRMAN. THEN DR. BIDEN AND THE FORMER VICE PRESIDENT. HE JUST ADDRESSED THE REPORTERS AT HIS NAUSEA VICTORY NIGHT CELEBRATION WHERE WE THOUGHT WE'D BE TONIGHT. GIVEN WHAT WE HEARD FROM HIM IN READING HIS OBSERVATIONS THERE, IT LOOKED LIKE THEY'RE GOING TO FULLY BACKWARD AS WE TALKED ABOUT, CHUCK, BEFORE, THAT ATTACKING STRATEGY HE TRYED AND THEN QUICKLY PIVOTED FROM BEFORE. HE WAS TALKING A LOT ABOUT HIS INTERACTIONS WITH VOTERS, TRYING TO PLAY THE EMPATHY CARD, TRYING TO BRING BACK THE UNCLE JOE CARTOON WE'VE SEEN OVER THE YEARS.
A QUICK THING. I MAY PHYSICALLY BE IN SOUTH CAROLINA, BUT PART OF MY BRAIN IS STILL IN NEW HAMPSHIRE. I JUST WANTED TO MENTION THAT I SPOKE WITH THE SECRETARY OF STATE. HE SAID HE EXPECTS THE TURNOUT IN NEW HAMPSHIRE TO BE WHAT HE EXPECTED WHICH WAS AROUND 450,000. PART HE HAS IS BECAUSE OF WHAT HE EXPECTS TO BE A RECORD TURNOUT IN THE GOP PRIMARIES. RECORD PARTICIPATION FOR A YEAR OF PRESIDENTIAL RE-ELECTION IN A NON-COMPETITIVE RACE. SO JUST A LITTLE THING I THOUGHT YOU WANTED TO HEAR. VERY INTERESTING, MIKE. AS YOU TALKED WE TEMPORARILY LOST CHUCK TODD.
HE WILL BE BACK WITH US MOMENTARILY. MAY I ASK YOU, MIKE, I MEAN, WHAT'S GOING ON BEHIND YOU IN THAT ROOM IN SOUTH CAROLINA? IT IS SO DIFFERENT FROM WHAT WE HAVE BEEN SEEING BEHIND MARIANA, OUR INTEGRATED COLLEAGUE WHO IS STILL HERE IN NEW HAMPSHIRE. CAN YOU DESCRIBE THE SCENE YOU GOT THERE AND HOW IT IS DIFFERENT OR THE SAME FROM WHAT WE SAW IN NEW HAMPSHIRE LAST WEEK? Reporter: YES, I WOULD SAY IT'S CERTAINLY A MORE ALIVE CROWD THAN IN THE COURSE OF THE LAST WEEK. ONE OF THE FIRST PEOPLE I SAW WHEN I WALKED IN HERE, A LONG TIME BIDEN SUPPORTER SAID I FORGOT TO PUT MY FIREWALL SHIRT ON.
IF THERE IS BED-WETTERING, A TERM WE DESCRIBED FOR DEMOCRATS CONCERNED ABOUT THEIR POLITICAL FORTUNE, THERE IS NONE OF IT HERE. A MUCH MORE DIVERSE CROWD THAN WE HAVE SEEN IN IOWA, NEW HAMPSHIRE, AND NOW AS THE PROGRAM STARTS. WE ARE ARRIVING THE FIRST PRESENTATIONS. MIKE, THANK YOU SO MUCH. I KNOW WE ARE WATCHING TO SEE WHO IS GOING TO START THE PROGRAM. I SEE DR. JILL BIDEN THERE THROUGH THAT CROWD. DO WE HAVE THIS, GUYS? CAN WE TAKE HER OR? WE WILL LISTEN TO DR. JILL BIDEN FOR A MINUTE. AN INCREDIBLE WELCOME HERE. FRIENDS AND MENTORS IN THEIR CITIES AND IN THEIR TOWNS.
WE FOUND A BREATH ON ITS SHORES. AND WHEN WE LOST OUR SON BO, WE CAME TO SOUTH CAROLINA TO THE NETHERLANDS TO FIND A SENSE OF PEACE. AFTER MONTHS OF HEART-AGORE, SEEING OUR SON DISAPPEAR, AFTER THE DEVASTATION OF LOSING HIM, SOUTH CAROLINA WAS THE PLACE WHERE WE WERE ABLE TO TAKE A BREATH FOR THE FIRST TIME. AND THIS STATE OPENS ITS ARMS AND HUGS OUR FAMILY. YOU HELPED US HEAL. DR. JILL BIDEN IS SPEAKING IN FRONT OF JOE BIDEN. A HARD NIGHT IN NEW HAMPSHIRE. THEY HAVE GONE TO SOUTH CAROLINA. CHUCK TODD COME BACK NOW. I HAVE TO SAY I STILL CANNOT CLEAR THAT IMAGE FROM MY HEAD LAST MONDAY NIGHT WHEN THE BIDENS WENT OUT AS A COUPLE, AND THE LOOK ON JOE BIDEN'S FACE.
ALTHOUGH WE HAVE NO RESULTS, WE DID AN ENTRY SURVEY AND KNOW THAT EVERYONE HAD THEIR BOILER ROOM. THEY KNEW WHAT WAS COMING. IT LOOKED LIKE I'D SEEN A GHOST. YOU CAN READ A LOT OF BODY LANGUAGE IN THERE. FRANKLY, YOU HAD SEEN IT ON THE ROAD BETWEEN THE TWO. SHE HAS BEEN ONE OF, I THINK, THEIR MOST EFFECTIVE, YOU KNOW, DEFENDERS, SUBSTITUTES, BEING THE CAMPAIGN -- YES. SHE DID IT. CONCERNED ABOUT IT. IT LOOKED TERRIBLE THIS MORNING WHEN I SAW IT HERE. YOU KNOW, I MEET HIM. COMPETITIVE BOY. HE IS A COMPETITIVE BOY. OF COURSE IT IS.
THIS IS HARD. MARK MURRAY, IT DOESN'T MISS ME THAT WARREN AND BIDEN TOGETHER COULD NOT GET THIRD PLACE. YES, WHEN YOU LOOK DOWN THE EXIT POLLS, THIS IS STILL THE BARACK OBAMA PARTY. THAT IS GOING TO BE A CHALLENGE FOR BERNIE SANDERS. I THINK I THINK FROM ALL THE CONVERSATIONS THAT THERE IS A WAY FOR BERNIE SANDERS TO GET THE NOMINATION JUST AS DONALD TRUMP DID NOT WIN DUE TO PARALLIES, KEEP INCREASING HIS PERCENTAGE, BREAK THE OPPOSITION UNTIL ONE PERSON IS REDUCED. BUT AGAIN WHEN I LOOK AT THE EXIT POLLS AND HOW TRUMP WAS ABLE TO DO THAT IN 2016, WHEN YOU LOOK BACK AT NEW HAMPSHIRE, HE HAD A CROSS-CUT APPEAL.
HE WAS WINNING AMONG THE MODERATE, OLD, YOUNG REPUBLICANS. WHEN YOU LOOK AT BERNIE SANDERS RIGHT NOW, YOU END UP SEE SOMEONE REALLY SUPPORTED BY VERY YOUNG, VERY LIBERAL VOTERS, AND HE HAS BREADTH IN HIS COALITION. AMY KLOBUCHAR DOES VERY WELL TONIGHT AND SHOWS THAT HE COULD BE A VIABLE ALTERNATIVE. BUT THEN SOMEONE FROM ANOTHER CAMPAIGN SAID TO ME WHAT IS SHE DOING IN SOUTH CAROLINA? HOW DOES IT EXPAND YOUR APPEAL? PETE BUTTIGIEG HAD THE SAME PROBLEM. NO HISTORY WITH VOTES OF THE SAME MINORITY. SO IT IS. AS A PROSECUTOR, I REMEMBER WHEN KAMALA HARRIS WAS BEING TAKEN TO THE WOODSTORE FOR HER PROSECUTOR'S FILE.
YOU STARTED TO SEE AMY KLOBUCHAR ANSWER SOME QUESTIONS WHEN HE WAS A PROSECUTOR AND STUFF THAT WAS GOOD POLITICS 15 YEARS AGO WHEN HE ENTERED STATE POLITICS, NOT SO GOOD POLITICS MAYBE IN THE PRIMARIES. OR 20 YEARS AGO WHEN JOE BIDEN WAS -- RIGHT. WE WILL GET AWAY ON A BREAK HERE. YOU ARE WATCHING THE NEW HAMPSHIRE PRESIDENTIAL PRIMARY IN "1917" ONLY. DON'T GO FAR. DON'T GO FAR. N" DON'T GO FAR. B" DON'T GO FAR. C" DON'T GO FAR." DON'T GO FAR. N" DON'T GO FAR. EW" DON'T GO FAR. S" DON'T GO FAR." DON'T GO FAR. N" DON'T GO FAR.
O" DON'T GO FAR. DON'T GO FAR. WE ARE EARLY CUT HERE WHILE JOE BIDEN IS SPEAKING TO HIS SUPPORTERS RIGHT NOW. A LONG TIME. WHEN I DIE I WANT TO BE REBORN AS CHARLESTON, ACTUALLY. I LIKE THE NETHERLANDS, DO YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? LOOK, I HOPE -- THANK YOU. PLEASE SIT DOWN. THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU. I AM -- I AM JOE BIDEN'S HUSBAND, AND I WORK FOR CEDRIC -- AND DAVID MACK DRIVES ME TO SCHOOL. WELL, LOOK, I KNOW SOME OF THE OTHER SENATORS CAME. THEY COME UP TO SEE ME THERE. THEY ARE NOW IN SESSION.
THANK YOU FOR THE EFFORT. THERE ARE SO MANY PEOPLE HERE FOR ME TO SAY THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU TO. I just spoke toour people in New Hampshire, and they did a good job. I WANT TO TELL YOU, THE PEOPLE OF NEVADA ARE WATCHING, AND I WANT TO MAKE IT CLEAR THAT WE PRAISE YOUR DIVERSITY AS A STATE AND I WILL BE THERE AND SEE YOU VERY SOON. TONIGHT, HOWEVER, WE JUST HEARD FROM THE TOP TWO OF 50 STATES. TWO OF THEM. NOT EVERY NATION NOR HALF THE NATION. NOT A QUARTER OF THE NAYS. NOT 10%. TWO.
TWO. WHERE I COME FROM, THAT'S THE OPENING BELL. NOT THE CLOSING HOOD. AND THE FIGHT AND THE PRESIDENCY OF DONALD TRUMP HAS JUST BEGIN. THANK YOU. IT IS IMPORTANT THAT IOWA AND NEVADA TALK. LOOK, WE NEED TO HEAR FROM NEVADA AND SOUTH CAROLINA AND THE SUPER TUESDAY STATES AND BEYOND. WE ARE ENTERING AN ESPECIALLY IMPORTANT PHASE. UNTIL NOW WE HAVE NOT KNOWN ABOUT THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY'S MOST COMMITTED CONSTITUTION, THE AFRICAN-AMERICAN COMMUNITY. AND THE FASTEST GROWING SEGMENT OF SOCIETY, THE LATINO COMMUNITY. I WANT EVERYONE TO THINK OF A NUMBER. 99.9%. THAT IS THE PERCENTAGE OF AFRICAN-AMERICAN VOTERS WHO HAVE NOT YET HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO VOTE IN AMERICA.
A NUMBER PLUS 99.8. THAT IS THE PERCENTAGE OF LATINOS WHO HAVE NOT HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO VOTE. SO WHEN YOU HEAR ALL THESE ARTISTS AND EXPERTS, CABLE TV TALKERS TALK ABOUT THE CAREER, TELL THEM IT'S NOT OVER, MAN WE'RE JUST GETTING STARTED. OUR VOTES COUNT TOO. WE ARE NOT GOING TO ALLOW ANYONE TO TAKE THIS ELECTION FROM US. YOU CANNOT BEAT A DEMOCRATIC NOMINEE, YOU CANNOT WIN A DEMOCRATIC GENERAL ELECTION UNLESS YOU HAVE OVERWHELMING SUPPORT OF BLACK AND BROWN VOTERS. IT IS A NATURAL FACT. IT'S TRUE. IT IS ABSOLUTELY TRUE. AND, FRIENDS, YOU KNOW, ALL THOSE DEMOCRATS WHO WON AGAINST THE HEADLINES FROM JIMMY CARTER TO A GUY NAMED CLINTON, A GUY NAMED OBAMA, MY GOOD FRIEND, GUESS WHAT?
THEY HAD OVERWHELMING AFRICAN-AMERICAN SUPPORT. WITHOUT HIM, NO ONE HAS EVER WON. NOT REALLY. AND EVERYONE VOTES -- LOOK, MOST IMPORTANTLY, YOU CAN'T WIN THE DEMOCRATIC NOMINATION FOR PRESIDENT WITHOUT BLACK AND BROWN VOTERS. TOO OFTEN HIS LOYALTY, HIS SUPPORT, HIS COMMITMENT TO THIS PARTY HAS BEEN TAKEN FOR MEANING. I NEVER IN MY CAREER SINCE I GOT INVOLVED AS A CHILD, DID I TAKE IT FOR SENSE AND I GIVE YOU MY WORD AS BIDEN THAT I WILL NEVER, EVER, EVER DO IT. IF YOU WANT TO KNOW WHAT ANY OF THE OTHER CANDIDATES ARE GOING TO DO IN THE FUTURE, THE TENDENCY IS TO LOCK IN THE PAST.
I LEFT A LAW FIRM AS A KID AND A FANCY LAW FIRM TO BECOME A PUBLIC DEFENDER TO FIGHT FOR THE COMMUNITY OF PEOPLE I USED TO WORK WITH ON THE EAST SIDE BECAUSE THEY COULDN'T AFFORD A LAWYER. IN THE UNITED STATES SENATE I PASSED THE VOTING RIGHTS EXTENSION ACT BY TWO DECADES. BTW, I HAD THE BACK OF A GREAT PRESIDENT BARACK OBAMA FOR EIGHT YEARS. BY THE WAY, WE INCREASED ACCESS TO CAPITAL FOR AFRICAN-AMERICAN ENTREPRENEURS. LET'S MAKE SOMETHING CLEAR. GIVEN THE OPPORTUNITY, THEY DO IT AS WELL AS ANYONE, AND FRANKLY, BETTER, AND THEY BUILD NEIGHBORHOODS, THEY BUILD ALL COMMUNITIES.
REDUCE THE FEDERAL POPULATION, AND I'LL GET $70 BILLION IN HBCUs. IT IS NOT A JOKE. LOOK, WE SAVED THE AUTOMOBILE INDUSTRY, WE PASSED OBAMACARE, WE PREVENT INSURANCE COMPANIES FROM DISCRIMINATING PEOPLE WITH PRE-EXISTING CONDITIONS. ON ADDITION TO THAT, WE BUILD AN ECONOMY THAT TRUMP BRIGHTENS ABOUT. THIS GUY SAID HIS FATHER'S FORTUNE. NOW THE ECONOMY WE GAVE HIM IS WASTED. YOU THINK I'M JOKING. I AM NOT. SO, MR. PRESIDENT, INSTEAD OF TALKING ABOUT IMPEACHING BARACK OBAMA, YOU SHOULD BE, THANK YOU, PRESIDENT OBAMA. THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU. BUT, FRIENDS, WE HAVE MUCH MORE TO DO. I PROMISE YOU, AS YOUR PRESIDENT, YOU WILL BE PARTNERS IN MAKING POLICIES TO MAKE SURE ALL AMERICANS HAVE A CHANCE.
WHAT I HAVE NEVER LIKED WHEN I WAS CHAIRMAN OF THE JUDICIAL COMMITTEE FOR YEARS, I DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU NEED BETTER. HEARD. ALL OF YOU, THE LEADERS OF THE BLACK COMMUNITY, KNOW WHAT YOU NEED BEST. WE DON'T LISTEN ENOUGH. WE TAKE IT FOR GRANTED. YOU KNOW WHAT YOU NEED. YOU KNOW WHAT YOUR FAMILIES NEED. AND I HAVE NEVER LISTENED TO YOU. WE NEED TO BUILD ON OBAMACARE FIRST. TRUMP WANTS TO GET RID OF HIM. EVEN SOME OF THE PEOPLE ON MY OWN TEAM -- IT'S JOE BIDEN STARTING -- FINISHING HIS NEW HAMPSHIRE CAMPAIGN, BUT STARTING, CLEARLY, HIS CAMPAIGN FOR SOUTH CAROLINA AND FOR NON-WHITE VOTERS, KASIE HUNT.
YOU HEARD IT THERE. I WAS TALKING ABOUT THE DIVERSITY OF NEVADA, TALKING ABOUT THE DIVERSITY OF SOUTH CAROLINA, BUT THERE WAS ANOTHER ASPECT TO JOE BIDEN, A KIND OF POLITICAL RESUME THAT MADE HIM AN ATTRACTIVE CANDIDATE TO MANY PEOPLE IN JOE'S MIDDLE CLASS. THE BOY FROM SCRANTON. DO YOU KNOW WHAT SCRANTON IS LIKE? MANCHESTER. DUBUQUE ISLAND. I UNDERSTAND THAT HE, FOR SOME REASON, AND HE IS LOSING THOSE VOTERS TO BERNIE SANDERS. BERNIE SANDERS IS LOSING THEM. THIS IS REALLY THE OVERALL CHALLENGE FOR THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY BECAUSE WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT THE GENERAL ELECTION AND THIS PRIMARY IS ABOUT ELIGIBILITY, WHO CAN BEAT DONALD TRUMP, YOU ARE LOOKING AT VOTERS IN THE MIDWESTERN STATES, PENNSYLVANIA, WISCONSIN, MICHIGAN.
THAT IS A COMBINATION OF TWO THINGS. IT IS THE WHITE WORKING CLASS VOTERS WHO FLED THE PARTY TO DONALD TRUMP AND ALSO AFRICAN AMERICAN PARTICIPATION. SO FAR, BIDEN'S ARGUMENT IS THAT HE POTENTIALLY HAS A PART OF IT. WE DON'T KNOW YET BECAUSE HE HAS NOT HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO DO IT IN SOUTH CAROLINA. BUT I THINK IT'S PRETTY CLEAR THAT, YOU KNOW, THAT SEGMENT, WHAT'S LEFT OF THE WHITE WORKING CLOSELY IN THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY DOESN'T APPEAR TO BE WITH JOE BIDEN. YES. AND THAT'S THE AMAZING CONCESSION HE'S MAKING. SOMEONE SAID THAT THE -- ACTUALLY THE WEIRD THING ABOUT HUNTER BIDEN'S ATTACKS, WHILE IT DID NOT SUIT JOE PERSONALLY, DEFINED HIM.
BECAUSE IF HUNTER BIDEN IS RICH, THE DAD MUST BE RICH TOO. HE WAS NEVER THAT GUY. THIS IS ONE OF THE FEW GUYS WHO DID NOT KNOW HOW TO BE A MILLIONAIRE WHILE SERVING AS A UNITED STATES SENATOR. I HAVE KNOWN HIM A LONG TIME. I WAS COVERING PENNSYLVANIA POLITICS. HE WAS WORKING CLASS JOE. AND SCRANTON WAS TRULY THE FAMILY HOME. AND THAT IS WHAT HAS CREATED ALL OF HIS BEING, ALL OF HIS SENSITIVITY. THAT'S WHY OBAMA CHOSE HIM. NOT JUST THE EXPERIENCE, IT WAS THE WORKING CLASS JOE. THERE IS CERTAINLY NO COMPATIBILITY IN THE BEGINNING.
SAFE. THAT WAS MY QUESTION GOING IN, AS I HAVE BEEN COVERING IMPEACHING IN WASHINGTON FOR ALL THESE WEEKS, IT WAS CLEAR TO ME AND IT HAS BEEN CLEAR TO ALL OF US THAT THE DONALD TRUMP CAMPAIGN WAS RUNNING THE SAME TYPE OF CAMPAIGN AGAINST DONALD TRUMP -- OR AGAINST JOE BIDEN LIKE HE DID AGAINST HILLARY. HE WASN'T SURE WHAT IT WOULD LIKE BECAUSE OF HIS PAST. IT SEEMS LIKE MAYBE IT HAS. AMY KLOBUCHAR IS ABOUT TO GO OUT. THIS IS A BIG MOMENT FOR HER. THE GREAT MOMENT FOR HER. THE DEBATE, BTW, NICE ENOUGH IN L.A.?
IT WAS VERY GREAT COMBINED WITH THE HUMANITY THAT HILLARY CLINTON SHOWED TOWARD THE END OF THAT NEW HAMPSHIRE CAMPAIGN, IT REALLY REDEFINED WHO SHE WAS TO THE VOTERS HERE. AMY KLOBUCHAR USED THE DEBATE, SAME TIME. WE DEFINE WHAT PEOPLE THINK ABOUT IT HERE. SHE IS ABOUT TO HAVE AN INTERESTING ONE - CURIOUS TO SEE HOW HE DECLARES HER VERSION OF A WIN. YES. AND ALSO THE CLOSURE THAT HE GAVE IN THAT SPEECH WHERE IT WAS LIKE THERE WAS NOT A VIRAL MOMENT, BUT THAT CLOSURE THAT REALLY CAPTIVATED PEOPLE. HE DID IT. AND I THINK THE QUESTION IS NOW, IS SHE GOING TO START TREATING SOME INCOME, RIGHT?
AND, YOU KNOW, NOW THAT THE NEXT STEP IS GOING TO BE, LIKE ANY CANDIDATURE, WELL, YOU'RE GOING TO GET A FRONTRUNNER TREATMENT. HOW ARE YOU GOING TO SUSTAIN I THINK THERE'S A REAL QUESTION IN PART BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, WE WERE TALKING ABOUT THIS BEFORE, HER RECORD OF SOME PROBLEMS WITH THE AFRICAN-AMERICAN COMMUNITY, HOW SHE, YOU KNOW, AT A TIME IN THE '90S WAS POLITICALLY POPULAR TO BE HARD ON HIM CRIME AND WHICH HAS NOW BECOME A SET OF POLICIES THAT MANY PEOPLE IN THE DEMOCRATIC VAS ARE REJECTING. I THINK THE NEVADA STRATEGY IS INTERESTING FOR HERE.
WE DON'T KNOW EXACTLY HOW IT WILL TURN OUT. FRANKLY, THE LOSS OF BIDEN HERE RAISES MORE QUESTIONS ABOUT WHAT HARRY REID IS -- THANKS FOR MENTIONING HIS NAME. WHAT WOULD HARRY REID DO? HE HAS MEETED WITH EVERY PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE. YOU CANNOT ENTER THE STATE OF NEVADA IF YOU ARE A DEMOCRATIC PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE WITHOUT YOUR FIRST MEETING WITH FORMER SENATOR REID. OF COURSE THERE IS A UNION ISSUE ABOUT MEDICARE FOR EVERYONE. SO SANDERS HAS SOME WEAKNESS HERE. SO HOW ARE YOU TRYING TO... OR WILL YOU TRY TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THAT? GOOD. BUT THE UNION PROBLEM THE CITY IS DOMINATED BY -- YOU KNOW, A HEAVILY LATINO HOSPITALITY UNION.
WE TALK ABOUT HARRY REID REALLY IN CHARGE OF POLITICS THERE. IF YOU SEND A SIGNAL TO THE UNIONS THAT YOU WANT TO GO ONE WAY, YOU COULD MAKE A DIFFERENCE. HARRY REID, YOU FRUSTRATED SOME PEOPLE ON THE OUTSIDE. KEPT THE CONFERENCE TOGETHER. HE GOT BERNIE, KEPT BERNIE SANDERS FROM WALKING TOO FAR. I KNEW HOW TO BALANCE THIS. She put a finger in the balance for BARACK OBAMA WITHOUT OFFENDING HILLARY CLINTON. HE IS GOOD AT THIS. I WILL BE CURIOUS TO SEE IF HE SENDS SUBTLE SIGNALS WHEN IT COMES TO PETE BUTTIGIEG AND AMY KLOBUCHAR AND BERNIE SANDERS WHEN THEY DIVE IN NEVADA.
THE FIRST POLITICAL CONTEST OF STATE OF MACHINES. WE HAVE PASSED FROM IOWA, NEW HAMPSHIRE, THE HARRY REID MACHINE, THE DEMOCRATIC MACHINE, THE CULINARY UNION BIG POWERFUL VOTERS. NEVADA IS A GIANT COUNTY, CLARK COUNTY, A BIG CITY, LAS VEGAS AND RENO AND THAT'S IT. WITH THE POWER OF THE MACHINE IN CLARK COUNTY, YOU COULD DO IT VERY, VERY WELL. THE QUESTION IS IF THAT MACHINE ENDS UP SUPPORTING -- AND UNTIL NOW SANDERS' PEOPLE HAVE NOT BEEN DISSATISFY WITH KLOBUCHAR'S PEOPLE-- IT IS. AND I KEEP PETE FROM BEING A CLEAR WINNER. DAVID, BEFORE MY 5PM SHOW ON MSNBC, A GUEST ADMITTED SHE IS A LITTLE SKEPTIC TO BELIEVE IN THE CAUCUS PROCESS IN NEVADA AND ALTHOUGH IT DOES NOT CHALLENGE NEVADA, WILL ADVISE CANDIDATES GOING TO NEVADA, PARTICIPATE IN THE DEBATE, COURT THE VOTERS BUT DON'T PLANT YOUR FLAG.
WHAT DO YOU THINK ABOUT THAT? I DON'T SEE ANY OF THEM PLANTING THEIR FLAG THERE. IF YOU ARE WARREN OR BIDEN, YOU WOULD LIKE TO BE IN THE TOP THREE. IF YOU ARE PETER AMY, YOU WANT TO SHOW THAT YOU HAVE SOME CAPACITY TO APPEAL TO THE MOST DIVERSE PARTS OF THE ELECTORATE. SINCE WE HAD THESE FOUR, IN 2008, REMEMBER NEVADA WAS INTERESTING BECAUSE HILLARY WON THE RAW BALLOT. WE WON THE DELEGATES. BUT, YOU KNOW, IT'S -- IT'S NOT THE DRIVE PROVIDER THAT IS SOUTH CAROLINA. THAT IS AN IMPORTANT QUESTION FOR THESE CANDIDATES FOR THE NEXT 18 DAYS.
MONEY, TIME, AS DISTRIBUTED BETWEEN SOUTH CAROLINA AND NEVADA AND THE OTHER STATES. I HAVE TO CUT YOU OFF. HERE COMES AMY KLOBUCHAR. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, NEW HAMPSHIRE. THANK YOU, NEW HAMPSHIRE. WE LOVE YOU NEW HAMPSHIRE! HELLO AMERICA. I AM AMY KLOBUCHAR AND I WILL BEAT DONALD TRUMP. MY HEART IS FULL TONIGHT. MY HEART IS FULL TONIGHT. WHILE THERE ARE STILL VOTES TO COUNT, WE HAVE BEATEN THE ODDS EVERY STEP OF THE WAY. WE HAVE DONE IT FOR THE FUND. WE HAVE DONE IT WITH IDEAS AND WE HAVE DONE IT WITH WORK.
BECAUSE WE ARE RESILIENT AND STRONG LIKE THE PEOPLE OF THIS GREAT NATION. THANK YOU TO OUR AMAZING STAFF AND UNSTOPPABLE VOLUNTEERS, MY WONDERFUL HUSBAND JOHN, OUR DAUGHTER ABIGAIL. AND THE PEOPLE OF NEW HAMPSHIRE, THANKS TO YOU, WE ARE BRINGING THIS CAMPAIGN TO NEVADA. WE ARE GOING TO SOUTH CAROLINA. AND WE ARE BRINGING THIS MESSAGE OF UNITY TO THE COUNTRY. WE KNOW IN OUR HEARTS THAT IN A DEMOCRACY IT IS NOT ABOUT THE LOUDEST VOICE OR THE LARGEST BANK ACCOUNT. IT'S ABOUT THE BEST IDEA AND THE PERSON WHO CAN TURN THOSE IDEAS INTO ACTION. WE KNOW WE CANNOT WIN BIG BY TRYING TO SPLIT THE SPLITTER IN PRINCIPAL.
WE KNOW WE GAIN BY BRINGING PEOPLE WITH US INSTEAD OF MISSING THEM. DONALD TRUMP'S WORST NIGHTMARE IS THAT PEOPLE IN THE MIDDLE, PEOPLE WHO HAVE HAD ENOUGH OF POWERFUL AND LANGUAGES, HAVE SOMEONE TO VOTE FOR IN NOVEMBER. I CAN'T WAIT TO TAKE OUR GREEN BUS ACROSS THE COUNTRY. I CAN'T WAIT TO WIN THE NOMINATION. I CAN'T WAIT TO BUILD A MOVEMENT AND WIN WITH A MOVEMENT OF FIRE DEMOCRATS, INDEPENDENTS AND MODERATE REPUBLICANS. LET THEM SEE THIS ELECTION AS WE DO. WE SEE IT AS AN ECONOMIC CONTROL OF THIS PRESIDENT. WE SEE IT AS A PATRIOTISM CHECK AND WE SEE IT AS A DECENCY CHECK.
BECAUSE IN THE END WE KNOW THAT WHAT UNITES US IS MUCH GREATER THAN WHAT DIVIDES US, AND WE KNOW, WE KNOW WE BELIEVE THAT MANY OF US BELIEVE THAT THE HEART OF AMERICA IS BIGGER THAN THE HEART OF THIS KIND OF WHITE HOUSE. TONIGHT IS ABOUT COURAGE, AND MY STORY, LIKE SO MANY OF YOURS, IS ABOUT RESILIENCE. I ANNOUNCED MY CANDIDACY IN THE MIDDLE OF A MINNESOTA BLUEZARD AND THERE WERE A LOT OF PEOPLE WHO PREDICTED I WOULD NOT EVEN MAKE THAT SPEECH, BUT NOT PEOPLE IN MY STATE AND NOT PEOPLE IN NEW HAMPSHIRE. EXCEPT THEN THEY PREDICTED WE WOULDN'T MAKE IT THROUGH THE SUMMER.
WE DID IT. THEN THEY PREDICTED WE WOULD NOT GET TO THE DEBATES AND MAN WE WERE AT THE DEBATE IN NEW HAMPSHIRE. WE HAVE BEEN CONSTANT, WE HAVE BEEN STRONG AND WE NEVER GIVE UP. I THINK THAT SOUNDS VERY GOOD FOR A PRESIDENT. BUT THROUGH THE MONTHS AND MONTHS AND MILES OF THIS RACE, WE DEFINED THE WORD "GRIT." YOU SEE IT WITH OUR HAPPY, SCRAPPY CAMPAIGN. YOU SAW IT ON OUR 30-HOUR TEN-COUNTY TOUR IN THE MIDDLE OF A NORTHERN EASTER. WE DON'T FORGET THAT. YOU SAW HIM AT OUR EARLY MORNING DINING STOPS AND OUR LATE NIGHT GAMES AND YES, YOU SAW HIM ON THAT DISCUSSION STAGE.
LIKE MANY OF YOU, I KNOW A LITTLE ABOUT RESILIENCE. MY GRANDFATHER WORKED 1,500 FEET UNDERGROUND IN THE MINES OF NORTHERN MINNESOTA. HE NEVER GRADUATED FROM HIGH SCHOOLBECAUSE HIS PARENTS WERE SICK. HE HAD NINE BROTHERS AND SISTERS, AND HE HAD TO HELP RAISE THEM. AND EVERY DAY I WENT DOWN IN THAT CAGE IN THAT MINE CARRYING A BUCKET OF FOOD THAT MY GRANDMOTHER CARRIED. HER LITTLE SISTER, HANNAH, WAS ONLY 8 YEARS OLD WHEN SHE WAS TAKEN TO AN ORPHANAGE. AFTER HIS PARENTS DEATH, HE SWORE HE WOULD GO TO HER AND TWO YEARS LATER HE BORROWED A CAR, DROVE TO DULUTH, AND BROUGHT HER HOME.
HE AND MY GRANDMA SAVED MONEY ON A CAN OF COFFEE IN THEIR BASEMENT TO SEND MY DAD TO A TWO YEAR COMMUNITY COLLEGE. MY DAD THEN BECAME A NEWSPAPER. MY MOTHER WAS BORN IN MILWAUKEE, THE SITE OF OUR NEXT CONVENTION. AND SHE CAME TO MINNESOTA AND TEACHED SECOND GRADE UNTIL AGE 70. AND I STILL KNOW PEOPLE WHO SAY SHE WAS THEIR FAVORITE TEACHER. SO TODAY I STAND BEFORE YOU AS THE GRANDDAUGHTER OF AN IRON MINER, AS THE FIRST WOMAN ELECTED TO THE MINNESOTA STATE SENATE AND CANDIDATE FOR UNITED STATES PRESIDENT. THAT'S BECAUSE WE LIVE IN A COUNTRY THAT SHARES DREAMS, NO MATTER WHERE YOU COME FROM, NO MATTER WHO YOU KNOW, NO MATTER THE COLOR OF YOUR SKIN, NO MATTER WHERE YOU WORSHIP, NO MATTER WHO YOU LOVE, YOU CAN DO IT IN THE UNITED STATES FROM AMERICA.
I DID NOT HAVE A PERFECT LIFE. MY DAD STRUGGLES WITH ALCOHOLISM -- WE'VE BEEN LISTENING TO AMY KLOBUCHAR, SEE LENGTHS I DECLARES VICTORY IN NEW HAMPSHIRE PRIMARY. WE HAVE NOT PROJECTED A WINNER HERE AT NBC NEWS. WE KNOW IT IS IN THE TOP THREE. SO FAR, IT'S ACCORDING TO AT LEAST BERNIE SANDERS, POSSIBLY ALSO PETE BUTTIGIEG. BUT A TACTICAL MOVE ON HIS PART AFTER A SURF HERE IN NEW HAMPSHIRE. WE HAVE RECEIVED ANECDOTALLY OVER THE LAST COUPLE OF DAYS THAT THIS WAS POTENTIALLY IN THE MIX FOR AMY KLOBUCHAR AT THE END OF THE NIGHT. DAVID, YOU'VE OBVIOUSLY BEEN THROUGH NIGHTS LIKE THIS.
WHAT IS YOUR VIEW OF HOW AMY KLOBUCHAR FRAMED THIS AND, YOU KNOW, IF -- AND WHAT MIGHT BE HER WAY FORWARD. WELL, MY MOST LIVING EXPERIENCE IN NEW HAMPSHIRE WAS LOSING ELEMENTARY. I THINK SHE -- PRETTY FAIR. SHE DID A GOOD JOB I THINK. SHE IS BUILDING UP HER PERFORMANCE IN THE DEBATE. YOU KNOW, PRESIDENTIAL CAMPAIGNS, HOW THEY WORK, YOU KNOW, SHE GIVES THAT SPEECH AND NOW THEY HAVE TO GO INTO A BUNKER AND FIND OUT WHAT OUR PLAN IS. HOW MUCH MONEY CAN WE RAISE? WHAT STATES DO I GO TO? HOW MUCH WILL I SPEND IN NEVADA AND SOUTH CAROLINA?
HE IS NOW IN THE MOST ADVANTAGE PLACE IN THE RACE THAT HE COULD HAVE IMAGINED, BUT THAT'S THE EASY PART IN A WAY. NOW YOU HAVE TO DISCOVER HOW TO CAPITALIZE IT. SHE HAS A STRONG MESSAGE. IT CLEARLY WORKED IN NEW HAMPSHIRE. NOW, LET'S KNOW, SHE CAME THIRD. SHE DIDN'T WIN OR COME IN SECOND BUT I THINK SHE'S GOING TO GET A LOT MORE SCLUTINY NOW. YOU KNOW, MUCH MORE TENSION -- A LITTLE I ASK YOU ABOUT THAT. WHAT ARE THE LINES OF ATTACK AGAINST HER THAT YOU EXPECT TO GO OUT TO HER RIVALS TOMORROW OR THE NEXT DAY ON THE AIR?
WE WILL SEE HOW MUCH THEY ARE DIRECT VERSUS, YOU KNOW, SHARING RESOURCES WITH REPORTERS. THE MEDIA ARE GOING TO LOOK AT IT. HIS TIME AS A PROSECUTOR. WE SAW KAMALA HARRIS STRUGGLE WITH THAT IN THIS PRIMARY. SHE WAS AN AFRICAN-AMERICAN CANDIDATE. I THINK AMY KLOBUCHAR WILL DEAL WITH THIS FOR SURE. I DON'T KNOW IF WE WILL GO BACK TO SOME OF THE QUESTIONS ABOUT HIS CHARACTER WHERE HE ENTERED THE BREED AND TEMPERAMENT. BUT IT'S ALWAYS NICE WHEN YOU DO IT RIGHT. IT ALSO BECOMES PART OF NATIONAL POLITICS, BECAUSE THE COALS ARE TRACKED. MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT I WAS ON "THE VIEW" THIS MORNING ON ABC AND WAS ASKED ABOUT A PARTICULAR CASE AND I THINK THE PEOPLE I TALKED TO DID NOT THINK SHE HANDLED IT PARTICULARLY WELL.
WE HAVE A DISCUSSION IN THE MIDDLE OF NEXT WEEK THAT I THINK WE WILL SEE. MY SENSE IS THAT IT WILL NOT BE AS IMPORTANT AS THE NEW HAMPSHIRE DEBATE BECAUSE THERE ARE A LOT OF PEOPLE IN NEW HAMPSHIRE -- IT'S A SMALL STATE. A VERY POLITICAL STATE. PEOPLE ARE TUNED. IT WILL CONTINUE TO BE IMPORTANT. SO I THINK FOR HER IT'S ABOUT HOW SHE CONSTRUCTS THIS PERFORMANCE TONIGHT. NOW, THE INTERESTING THING, YOU KNOW THAT WE HAVE A LOT OF VOTES REMAINING AND THE MARGIN IS ADJUSTING BETWEEN ONE AND TWO. SO IF THAT BECOMES THE STORY, HIS THIRD PLACE STORY IS STILL A GREAT ONE.
THEY DESERVE A HUGE AMOUNT OF CREDIT AS THEY FINISHED UP. LET'S TALK ABOUT GENDER, WHICH HAS COME BIG IN THIS PRIMARY RACE, BOTH IN TERMS OF THE RECORD NUMBER OF WOMEN CANDIDATES JUMPING INTO A PRIMARY, AND ALSO MANY DOUBTS AND DOUBTS ABOUT WHETHER A WOMAN WAS ABLE TO WIN PRESIDENT TRUMP. AMY KLOBUCHAR LOOKS LIKE THE STRONGEST WOMAN STILL IN THIS PRIMARY. HOW MUCH DOES THE QUESTION OF GENDER CONTINUE PLAYING FOR HER? HOW BIG IS AN OBSTACLE? I THINK IT'S BIG. WHEN WE WERE LISTENING TO ELIZABETH WARREN'S SPEECH A COUPLE MINUTES AGO IN NEW HAMPSHIRE, SHE PRAISED AMY KLOBUCHAR AND SAID, LOOK, YOU KNOW, A WOMAN CAN DO IT.
AND SO SHE MADE A POINT TO GIVE AMY KLOBUCHAR WHAT SHE WAS OWED. AND I THINK THEY ARE WATCHING THEM. IT LOOKS LIKE THEY ALSO SAW SOMETHING PROBABLY IN THEIR INTERNAL SURVEY OR IN THEIR FOCUS GROUP THAT THERE WAS A PROBLEM. THE GENRE THING WAS SOMETHING THAT PLAYED WITH SOME OF THESE, SOME OF THE SUPPORTERS. AND THAT'S SOMETHING AMY KLOBUCHAR IS REALLY GOING TO DEAL WITH. I THINK THE REASON HE DID SO WELL AND ENDED UP IN A PLACE THAT SURPRISED US SO MUCH, SURPRISES US BECAUSE, REMEMBER, IOWA WAS SUPPOSED TO BE ALL IN AMY. SHE WAS SUPPOSED TO BE "ALL IN" IOWA AND SEE WHERE IT TAKEN HER.
BUT BECAUSE IOWA WAS SO CONFUSED, SHE GAVE MANY PEOPLE THE OPPORTUNITY TO GO TO NEW HAMPSHIRE TO SEE WHAT WOULD HAPPEN, AND THAT DISCUSSION REALLY DID FOR HER. PEOPLE SEE HER AS PRESIDENTIAL, SEE HER GREAT. THE WORDS YOU USE TO DESCRIBE YOURSELF. NOW THE QUESTION IS, DOES IT HAVE THE MONEY TO CONTINUE, AND HOW DOES IT PLAY THAT GENDER COMPONENT, BECAUSE I THINK IT DID HURT ELIZABETH WARREN. ESPECIALLY AFTER SHE, OF COURSE, WORKED OUT ON THAT NASTY, PUBLIC STAGE WITH BERNIE SANDERS, WHOM SHE ACCUSED OF CALLING HER A LIAR ON NATIONAL TV. ROAD WARRIOR AFTER BUTTIGIEG'S CAMPAIGN, VAUGHN HILLIARD.
WE ARE WAITING TO HEAR FROM THE CANDIDATE YOU HAVE BEEN COVERED IN THESE LAST DAYS, AMY KLOBUCHAR, HOW TO WIN HER, GOING IN FRONT OF THE CAMERAS FIRST. WHAT DO YOU LISTEN IN THE BUTTIGIEG CAMPAIGN? WHAT IS YOUR UNDERSTANDING OF WHERE THE CAREER IS? DO YOU FEEL LIKE YOU ARE IN A RACE FOR SECOND OR POTENTIALLY A RACE FOR FIRST? ARE THEY STILL ON THE HUNT HERE? HE JUST SPOKEN WITH SOMEONE FROM THE CAMPAIGN. THEY TELL ME THEY FEEL GOOD BASED ON THESE NUMBERS HERE. LOOK AT HIM, PETE BUTTIGIEG HAS A COUPLE POINT ADVANTAGE OVER AMY KLOBUCHAR AS HE IS NOW WITH A LITTLE OVER HALF OF THE TOTAL VOTES COUNTED HERE.
IT WOULD BE IDEAL TO BE ABOVE BERNIE SANDERS HERE, BUT AT SOME POINT YOU COULD MAKE THIS A BINARY CAREER, THAT IS THE ULTIMATE GOAL OF BUTTIGIEG'S CAMPAIGN. IT WAS A NECESSITY TO LEAVE IOWA AND NEW HAMPSHIRE BEING THAT THE CASE AND THE RESULTS OF THESE FIRST TWO STATES BECAUSE NEVADA AND SOUTH CAROLINA ARE MUCH MORE DIFFICULT ACCORDING TO SURVEYS. PETE BUTTIGIEG'S MEETING NUMBERS RISED SIGNIFICANTLY AFTER THE IOWA CAUCUS WIN HERE. YOU SAW THE EXIT POLLS THAT SHOWED PEOPLE ON ELECTION DAY LARGE NUMBERS GOING TO PETE BUTTIGIEG. THIS IS A CANDIDATE WHO, YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY SAW SOME ADVANTAGE FROM JOE BIDEN, NOT JUST IN IOWA, BUT HE MADE PEOPLE REALLY ADJUST WHO WAS THE MOST ELIGIBLE CANDIDATE AGAINST DONALD TRUMP.
WHEN YOU SEE A LITTLE MORE OF THAT EXIT POLL, PETE BUTTIGIEG GUARANTEED THE MOST FEEDBACK IN TERMS OF PEOPLE THE DEBATE SHOWS THEIR VOTE TODAY BASED ON WHO THEY THINK WAS THE BEST POSITION TO BEAT DONALD TRUMP. PETE BUTTIGIEG WAS THE BEST CHOICE. THIS IS A CANDIDATE WHO, OF COURSE, HAS TO DEAL WITH THE JOKER OF AMY KLOBUCHAR WHO, AS OF THAT SPEECH YOU JUST HEARD, HAS NO INTENTION TO LEAVE. PETE BUTTIGIEG WANTS TO BE THAT CANDIDATE WHO WILL BE ABLE TO MAKE THE CASE THAT BUILT A CAMPAIGN ORGANIZATION, WHICH HAS BEEN ABLE TO SHOW THE ABILITY TO BRING THE RESOURCES TO SUSTAIN BEYOND THESE FIRST TWO STATES.
HE MADE A STRONG CASE, ESPECIALLY IN THE LAST THREE WEEKS IN IOWA AND HERE IN NEW HAMPSHIRE, THAT HE WAS BEST EQUIPPED TO WIN OVER THE MORE MODERATE VOTERS, THE MODERATE INDEPENDENTS OR THE DISAFFECTED REPUBLICANS. SO FAR, BASED ON THE EXIT POLLS IN IOWA AND NEW HAMPSHIRE, AND THE RESULTS OF SOME MORE OF THOSE SMALL MUNICIPALITIES, YOU HAVE CHOOSE, TO A CERTAIN EXTENT, YOUR ABILITY TO DO THAT. THEY UNDERSTAND THAT THEY HAVE ISSUES WITH COMMUNITIES OF COLOR, BUT THEY ARE GOING TO HAVE TO CONVINCE THEMSELVES THAT THEY ARE WELL EQUIPPED TO BE THE NOMINEE OF THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY THAT CAN BEAT DONALD TRUMP NEXT NOVEMBER.
YES THAT'S GOING TO BE THE REAL TEST I THINK VAUGHN SINCE THE POLL SHOWED HE HAS HAD NO TRACTION WITH PEOPLE OF COLOR DESPITE HIS FAR BEING WHAT MARK MURRAY CALLED THE GOLDILES CANDIDATE. THANKS VERY MUCH BUDDY. SEE YOU LATER TONIGHT. NBC NEWS ROAD WARRIOR SHAQ BREWSTER WITH US. SHAQ, WE HAVE NOT YET PROJECTED A WINNER HERE AT NBC NEWS. WHAT'S BEHIND THE CAMPAIGN WHILE YOU WAIT FOR A FORMAL CALL HERE? I MEAN, ARE YOU MAD THAT IT HASN'T BEEN CALLED YET? ARE YOU CONCERNED ABOUT PARTICULAR PIECES OF THE BALLOT THAT MAY STILL BE OUT? WHAT HAPPENS BEHIND THE SCENES?
OPTIMISM. THEY FEEL THEY HAVE THIS. THEY FEEL IT IS CLOSE. OF COURSE THEY WILL WAIT FOR THE OFFICIAL CALL. YOU HAVE THE SENSATION THAT PEOPLE ARE MORE OPTIMISTIC ABOUT IT. AT HEADQUARTERS THE VERY EXCITED CROWD IS LISTENED. I DON'T KNOW IF THE PICTURE WAS UP, BUT YOU JUST SAW THE CAMPAIGN PRESIDENT'S PEOPLE WALK INTO THE PLACE AND THE CROWD BURSTED IN APPLAUSE. I DON'T KNOW IF YOU CAN SEE IT. I'M LOOKING BACK. YOU CAN SEE DR. CORNELL WEBB SOMETHING IN HIS HEAD OF HIS NINA TURNER ARRIVED THE CO-PRESIDENT OF PAIN CAME OUT AND WARMED UP THE CROWD.
IT WAS A GREAT SINGING OF BERNIE, PEOPLE HOLDING THE SIGNS. HIS STAFF of him, WERE HERE. I HAVE A FEELING SENATOR SANDERS IS PROBABLY IN THE BUILDING OR CLOSED RIGHT NOW. WHAT YOU ARE HEARING RIGHT NOW, THEY ARE GOING TO WAIT UNTIL WE HAVE MORE RESULTS WHILE WE KEEP WATCHING THIS RACE. THE ONLY THING I WANT TO NOTE FOR THIS CAMPAIGN IS THAT THIS IS ONE NIGHT -- AND I HAD AN INTERVIEW WITH SENATOR SANDERS BEFORE. HE DELETED THE IDEA THAT HE NEEDED TO GO WIN HERE IN NEW HAMPSHIRE. HE SAID THEY ARE MEDIA SPECULATIONS. NOW, WE HAVE SAID THAT HE IS ON HOME TERRITORY RIGHT NOW, HOME FIELD ADVANTAGE AND HE NEEDS TO DO WELL HERE BECAUSE HE SPOKE ABOUT ELECTABILITY AS A FUNDAMENTAL ISSUE FOR VOTERS.
HE SAID HE CAN GET THE ENERGY AND EMOTION TO FACE DONALD TRUMP. YOUR CAMPAIGN HAS INVESTED A LOT IN NEW HAMPSHIRE. AS THINGS ARE ADJUSTING, YOU QUESTION WHAT YOU CAN DO BEYOND HERE. THEIR CAMPAIGN IS TO INVEST IN NEW HAMPSHIRE AND THEY ANNOUNCED THAT THEY ARE INVESTING IN SUPER TUESDAY STATES. THEY POSTED THEIR FIRST AD LAST WEEK IN SOUTH CAROLINA. THEY FEEL LIKE THEY HAVE THE GROUND GROUND AHEAD OF THEM IF YOU LOOK AT SOUTH CAROLINA, NEVADA, WHERE IT IS MORE DIVERSE. I'M WATCHING WHAT THE CROWD CHEERS. AGAIN THE CO-PRESIDENT OF THE CAMPAIGN TRYING TO IRRITATE THE CROWD.
YOU HAVE A FEELING THAT THINGS ARE GETTING CLOSER. IT LOOKS LIKE SOMETHING MAY BE IMMINENT. RIGHT. SHAQ, I UNDERSTAND WHY YOU ARE TRYING TO MANAGE EXPECTATIONS. THIS IS SOMEONE WHO WON NEW HAMPSHIRE BY THE BIGGEST MARGIN WE'VE EVER SEEN POTENTIALLY READY TO WIN AGAIN BY THE SMALLEST MARGIN EVER. CHUCK TODD. YES. YOU KNOW, THE LAST TIME WE HAD A NEW HAMPSHIRE PRIMARY WINNER OF ANY KIND WITH THIS LOW PERCENTAGE WAS THE 1996 REPUBLICANS, PAT BUCHANAN'S UPLOAD VICTORY. IT IS A REMINDER THAT HE IS -- AND BUCHANAN WITH A SMALL PART OF THE REPUBLICAN ELECTORATE. OBVIOUSLY, SANDERS HAS A VERY SOLID PART THAT IS WITH HIM TO THE END.
BUT HE HAS TO DISCOVER HOW TO EXPAND THE ELECTORATE. WHERE DOES IT GO NEXT? HAS A CHANCE IN NEVADA. WHAT'S GOING ON IN SOUTH CAROLINA? I DO NOT SEE IT. I DON'T SEE WORKING CLASS, CERTAINLY NOT PEOPLE OF COLOR -- DOES THAT HELP YOU IN SOUTH CAROLINA? THIS CASE WAS REVERSED, RIGHT? HE LOST IT IN A BIG WAY AND THIS TIME HE ONLY LOST BY A FEW POINTS. THE STRATEGY, ALSO, POINT. THEIR STRATEGY WENT MUCH FURTHER -- NEVADA WAS A DIFFICULT TIME FOR THEM IN THIS CAMPAIGN. THEY CAME TO NEVADA AND FRANKLY THERE WAS A WALL OF CULINARY FIRE FOR HILLARY CLINTON.
AND SANDERS REALLY STRUGGLED WITH AFRICAN-AMERICAN VOTERS IN 2016. I THINK SOME OF THE POLLS ABOUT THEIR PROGRESS WITH THAT DEMOGRAPHIC ARE INTERESTING. IF YOU CAN GET A FEW TURNS WITH THAT, YOU CAN POTENTIALLY SEE AN UNPREDICTABLE RACE. BUT HE IS THE ONLY PERSON WHO HAS DONE THIS RECENTLY. HE CARRIED OUT A CAMPAIGN BEFORE AND CARRIED OUT IT THROUGHOUT THE COUNTRY, SO THAT THEY KNOW THE CHALLENGES THEY FACE. EVERY TIME HE'S ATTACKED, JUST, YOU KNOW, HE SENDS AN EMAIL TO HIS SUPPORTERS. AND THEY HAVE AGREED TO BE RECURRENT DONORS. YES. IT TAKES A LONG TIME TO GET TO $2,700, WHERE WE ARE THIS AFTERNOON.
SANDERS SUPPORTERS ARE SO TAKEN OVER THE MOVEMENT, IT'S LIKE TITHING. THERE ARE A LOT OF WORKING PEOPLE WHO YOU BELIEVE CANNOT AFFORD TO DO THAT. THIS IS BELIEVING. THIS IS BIGGER THAN THAT. WHAT BERNIE SANDERS SAYS ABOUT HIS MOVEMENT IS TRUE. THEY FEEL LIKE THIS IS A MISSION. THIS IS NOT -- AND I THINK SOMETIMES WE ARE CYNICAL ABOUT IT OR PORTRAITED AS CYNICAL ABOUT IT. IT IS A MOVEMENT THAT HAS THIS -- YOU KNOW, THEY LIVE IN THIS CONSTELLATION. THE PROBLEM IS ARE THE OTHERS WELCOME? THERE WAS OBVIOUSLY BOOING AT HILLARY CLINTON AS RECENTLY AS LAST WEEK.
AND HOW THEY DO IT -- I mean, for the life of me, I don't know how either side turns out to get to the other. I DON'T KNOW HOW MUCHIT TOOK A LONG TIME TO REALLY SUPPORT HILLARY CLINTON BECAUSE THE MONEY KEEPS COMING IN AND COMING IN. TO BE FAIR, YOU KNOW, SHE WASN'T -- SHE'S ALWAYS BEEN PORTRAITED AS A ONE-SIDED STORY. SHE WASN'T EXACTLY THE BEST WINNER EITHER. AND THAT HAS ALWAYS BEEN THIS -- YOU KNOW, FAMOUS PEOPLE NO DOUBT. BUT HAVE YOU HEARD THIS ARGUMENT WHERE, WAIT A MINUTE, YES, OUR PEOPLE WERE WRONG WITH HER, BUT YOUR PEOPLE DIDN'T AFFECT US.
THERE IS THAT. BUT I THINK ABOUT THE 2016 CONVENTION AND, YOU KNOW, THE FIRST DAY THEY DECIDED THAT THEY WOULD GIVE THEIR DAY TO BERNIE SANDERS SUPPORTERS. AND THEY PASSED BY A ROOM AND THEY WERE AFRAID OF WHAT WAS GOING TO HAPPEN WITH THESE PEOPLE IN THE CONVENTION ROOM. IT WAS A LARGE BALLROOM AWAY FROM THE MAIN FLOOR AND EVERYONE WAS INCREDIBLY ANGRY ABOUT THE TREATMENT OF BERNIE SANDERS. I REMEMBER FOLLOWING BERNIE SANDERS. THEY PUT IT IN THE FOCUS WHEN HE TAKEN HIS SEAT. HIS BROTHER WAS THERE. IT'S NOT LIKE HE HAD A LARGE SPACE TO TALK ON STAGE.
THERE WASN'T THIS BIG MOMENT OF RECONCILIATION AND EVERYONE IS STILL VERY VERY ANGRY ABOUT IT. HE WAS NOT TREATED LIKE A -- THAT CONVENTION DID NOT TREATE HIM AS A PRIMARY RIVAL. I WANT TO BRING DAVE WASSERMAN. WHAT ARE YOU LOOKING AT RIGHT NOW? WE ARE GOING AROUND THIS TRACK, BUT WE ARE GOING AROUND. YOU KNOW, WE DON'T RUSH IT. AND THERE ARE MANY REASONS WHY WE DON'T RUSH IT. WE HAVE NOT SEEN ANYTHING OUTSIDE OF DURHAM. WE ASSUME IT MUST BE GOOD FOR SANDERS. BUT PETE BUTTIGIEG HAS DONE VERY WELL IN THESE COLLEGE TOWNS. YES.
AND THE MARGIN IS NARROWING. SANDERS' LEAD IS LIKELY TO CONTINUE TO DECREASE AS THE NIGHT GOES ON BECAUSE WE SEE MANY SUBURBAN CITIES THAT HAVE NOT BEEN REPORTED YET. WE JUST HEARD FROM WYNDHAM WHERE BUTTIGIEG GOT TWICE THE VOTERS OF SANDERS. IT MAY NOT BE ENOUGH TO PUT BUTTIGIEG ON TOP. AT THE SAME TIME, YOU HAVE TO LOOK AT THE CLOSENESS OF THE MARGIN. IF SANDERS HOLDS ON AT THE NUMBER ONE ROOM, THEN KLOBUCHAR IS LIKELY RESPONSIBLE FOR PREVENTING BUTTIGIEG FROM GETTING AWAY WITH A WIN HERE AND BUILDING MOMENTUM. AND YOU ARE ALREADY HEARING THE RESENTMENT FROM SOME OF THE BUTTIGIEG PEOPLE TALKING ABOUT IT.
BUT TO BE FAIR, THIS IS WHAT THE CAMPAIGNS ARE ABOUT. I THINK IT IS A REMINDER, DEBATES CAN MATTER. CAMPAIGNS MAY MATTER HOW YOU RUN YOUR RACE. YES, THEY CAN SAY THAT. HOW THE HELL ARE YOU GONNA DEAL WITH DONALD TRUMP? AND THIS IS NOT A -- KLOBUCHAR WAS A LEGAL PUSH. I SEE THAT AMY KLOBUCHAR AND PETE BUTTIGIEG HAVE PASSED THE POLLS. SEEING PETE BUTTIGIEG AT 25% IS STRONGER THAN MOST FOLLOW-UPS WE'VE SEEN THROUGHOUT. AND AMY KLOBUCHAR IS THAT 18 TO 20 POINTS. THOSE NUMBERS ARE ACTUALLY SIMILAR TO THE POPULAR VOTES WE SAW IN IOWA. NOT MUCH HAS CHANGED, BUT WHAT HAS CHANGED IS THAT AMY KLOBUCHAR ENDED UP LOOKING LIKE HE HAD A HUGE WAY OF JOE BIDEN AND MAYBE A LITTLE WAY OF ELIZABETH WARREN.
IT DEFINITELY LOOKS LIKE THAT FOR SURE. I THINK THE QUESTION NOW IS, YOU KNOW, DO THESE... BERNIE SANDERS' MODERATE RIVALS CONTINUE TO NUDGE AND FIGHT EACH OTHER TO THE POINT THAT IT OPENS A WAY FOR SANDERS TO HEAD TO THE CONVENTION? AND WE HAVEN'T TALKED MUCH TONIGHT ABOUT MIKE BLOOMBERG. NO, WE HAVE NOT. BUT, HEY, THIS IS THE BARACK OBAMA PARTY, STILL. IS. WE ASK A QUESTION THAT INDICATES THIS: SHOULD THE POLICY OF THE NEXT PRESIDENT BE MORE LIBERAL? 41% OF THE MATCH. 11% MORE CONSERVATIVES. BASICALLY HALF THE PARTY WANTED TO SEE, YOU KNOW, EITHER A SMALLER CHANGE OR A RE-LISTING, DESCITING WHAT WE HAD.
THE INTERESTING GOES WITHIN THE NUMBERS IN THIS. GOING BACK TO BARACK OBAMA'S POLICIES, IT WAS 27-26 KLOBUCHAR/BUTTIGIEG. AND MORE CONSERVATIVES, THE 10%, KLOBUCHAR WON THAT. SO TO YOUR POINT, IT'S STILL BARACK OBAMA'S DEMOCRATIC PARTY. BUT AGAIN I THINK WHAT THE BERNIE SANDERS CAMPAIGN IS TRYING TO DO IS TRY TO KNOCK ON THE DOORS OF THAT PARTY AND BREAK IT DOWN WITH ALL THE BREAKS THAT WE HAVE REALLY SEEN THROUGHOUT THE ENTIRE RACE. IF YOU END UP SUPPORTING YOURSELF TO WIN HERE IS YOUR AFFIRMATION THAT YOU WILL CHANGE THE COMPOSITION OF THE ELECTION RAT, WE WILL END UP MAKING A REVOLUTION.
WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE EXIT POLLS HERE, THE YOUNGEST SHARE OF VOTERS IS LESS THAN WHAT WE SAW IN 2016. THAT'S AS MANY CRITICS SAY, WE HEAR THE SAME THING FROM JEREMY CORBIN, LABOR POLITICS, SOCIAL POLICIES WILL END UP TOP INSPIRING PEOPLE AND REALLY IT NEVER MATERIALIZED. LOOK, PUT THIS TOGETHER. FROM 2020 TO 2016, THIS ELECTORATE DIDN'T GET YOUNGER. GREW OLDER. HE LOST IT IN FIVE POINTS THERE. IT WAS MORE LIBERAL FOUR YEARS AGO THAN THIS TIME. YOU SEE THE COALITION THAT SANDERS ORGANIZED... BY THE WAY, THERE'S ALSO A PART OF ME THAT SAYS WE MISSED SOMETHING BIG FOUR YEARS AGO.
THERE IS A QUARTER OF THE PARTY THAT WAS TOTALLY AGAINST HILLARY CLINTON. THEY WERE WILLING TO BE WITH SANDERS. AND THE MOMENT THEY HAD THE CHANCE TO LEAVE SANDERS, THEY DID. AND I ALSO LISTENED THROUGH THIS, CHUCK, AND IT MAKES ME WONDER HOW DONALD TRUMP HAS MOTIVATED SOME OF THESE OLDER SUBURBAN VOTERS WHO ARE MAYBE INDEPENDENTS OR REPUBLICANS. I THINK THERE ARE SIGNS THAT WE MAY SEE SOME VOTERS HERE THAT -- BERNIE SANDERS HAS HIS MOVE. HE HAS THE CHILDREN WHO HAVE COME OUT FOR HIM. WE ARE STILL WATCHING THE OVERALL PARTICIPATION NUMBERS. SOME OF THAT ARE PEOPLE WHO HAVE BEEN VERY LOST BY TRUMP.
THAT MAY BE SOMETHING THAT WORKS IN THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY IN THE LONG TERM. IT LOOKS LIKE THE DEMOCRATS ARE GOING TO GIVE A BREATH OF RELIEF HERE AND TURNOUT LOOKS LIKE IT'S CLOSE. IF NOT, YOU HAVE A REAL PROBLEM BECAUSE WHAT IOWA SHOWN FROM THAT ONE TURNOUT WAS THAT THERE IS NO EXCITEMENT, EXCITEMENT, FEAR OF TRUMP OR THE ABILITY TO RELIEVE AROUND ANY CANDIDATE, ANY SINGLE ALTERNATIVE THAT START THE MOTIVATION. CONTROL ROOM, PLACE BOARDS HERE BECAUSE THE MARGIN BETWEEN SANDERS AND BUTTIGIEG IS NOW UNDER 5,000. IT SEEMS THERE ARE AROUND 4,500. THIS GOES TO WHAT DAVE WASSERMAN SAYS.
IF YOU'RE PETE, YOU WANT TO BE CLOSER TO FIRST THAN THIRD. WE ARE SEEING UNOFFICIAL RESULTS. DIFFERENT PARTS OF THE STATE HAVE BEEN VERY WELL WITH YOUNG PEOPLE IN THE DARTMOUTH AREA. THEY THINK THEY ARE GOING TO WIN DARTMOUTH. IT IS A TIME IN HIS BREAK BECAUSE THIS HAS BEEN A HIT ON HIM. I THINK ONE OF THE BIG DIVISIONS BETWEEN SANDERS AND THE REST OF THE FIELD IS FRANKLY HOW IT WORKS WITH LOW-INCOME VOTERS AND ALSO WITH VOTERS WITHOUT A COLLEGE EDUCATION. IF YOU ARE SPENDING, FRANKLY, THE STUDENT WHO ATTENDS DARTMOUTH HAS SOME THINGS IN COMMON WITH PEOPLE WHO GO TO UNH OR SOME OF THE OTHER SCHOOLS HERE IN MANCHESTER.
BUT LET'S REMEMBER THAT THE ELITE VERSUS THE NON-ELITE HAVE BEEN A DRIVING FORCE IN OUR POLITICS OVER THE LAST FOUR YEARS, AND WE TEND TO LUMBER ALL COLLEGE EDUCATED PEOPLE BUT THEY ARE NOT NECESSARILY EQUAL. AND THIS IS SO UNIQUE -- JANE KEEPS REMEMBERING US. THE MOST EDUCATED ELECTORATE IS IN NEW HAMPSHIRE. IT IS ALSO AN ENGAGED ELECTORATE. GOING BACK TO PETE BUTTIGIEG, TO ME A WIN IS STILL A WIN. BERNIE SANDERS HERE IN NEW HAMPSHIRE IS A DIFFERENT STORY. IF YOU TOLD ME TONIGHT WAS GOING TO BE A TWO OR THREE POINT RACE, I'M SAYING YOU HAVE TO MAKE SURE PETE BUTTIGIEG'S BID IS REAL.
AND ONE DRAW WAS A WOMAN WHO SAID SHE WOULD DECIDE WHEN SHE WAS IN THE CABIN. HOW DO YOU DECIDE? I DECIDED ON MO SO I VOTE KLOBUCHAR. KLOBUCHAR WAS SITTING NEXT TO ME. SHE SAID, YOU ARE MINE. I SAID, I'M GOING TO TAKE IT! IT'S A VOTE. YOU DON'T WANT TO BE LARRY AND CURLY. COME ON. YOU HAVE TO MAKE A STOOGES REFERENCE FROM TIME TO TIME. I THINK THERE IS TOO MUCH GENERATIONAL DIFFERENCE BETWEEN YOU AND ME. I AM GENERATION X. I AM A MILLENNIAL. I LISTEN. EXPLAIN PETE BUTTIGIEG WITH THE MILLENNIALMILLENNIALS. I DON'T KNOW IF I AM THE RIGHT PERSON TO ASK.
BUT, YOU KNOW, I BELIEVE THE CHALLENGES THAT HAVE BEEN PLACED AGAINST BERNIE SANDERS, AGAIN, AND I HAVE TO SAY IT'S HONESTLY REMARKABLE HOW MANY PEOPLE I FIND IN MY AGE COHORT, MILLENNIALS WHO HOLD UP BERNIE SANDERS AS THIS CULT FIGURE. I THINK ITS APPEAL IS THE FACT THAT IT LOOKS AUTHENTIC. THE SYSTEM MAKES IT GRUMPY AND THEY LOVE THAT. WHILE PETE BUTTIGIEG IS SOMEONE WHO HAS PLAYED MOST OF THE RULES HIS ENTIRE LIFE, HE HAS DONE EVERY THING RIGHT. I HAD A HUGE CHALLENGE IN PUBLIC LIFE IN THAT: I'M NOT SURE EXACTLY WHAT THE BARRIER IS, BUT BEING AN OPEN GAY CANDIDATE IS NOT SOMETHING WE SHOULD FORGET.
BUT THEY HAVE DIFFERENT WAYS OF WORKING IN THE WORLD. IF HIS WIFE IS IN THE SYSTEM WE HAVE, PETE BUTTIGIEG IS PROBABLY MORE ATTRACTIVE. THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN SANDERS AND BUTTIGIEG TONIGHT IS TOTAL HOUSEHOLD INCOME. BERNIE WON AMONG THOSE WHO EARNED $30 TO $50. YOU EARNED $100,000 OR MORE IN YOUR TOTAL HOUSEHOLD INCOME, NOT EVEN A CLOSE CALL. IT IS BUTTIGIEG WITH 36%. HE DOUBLED KLOBUCHAR AND SANDERS ON THAT FRONT. IN FACT, KLOBUCHAR AND SANDERS WERE COMBINED ON THAT. IT SHOWS YOU WHO HE IS. HE IS THE SUBURBAN DEMOCRAT CANDIDATE. I'M LOOKING FOR. OH, THAT'S NORTHERN VIRGINIA. THAT WILL BE THE SUBURBS OF RALEIGH AND CHARLOTTE.
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MYSTERIES WITH A TWIST. FROM THE ORIGINAL TRUE CRIME. WOW. LISTEN TO "DATELINE" WHEREVER YOU GET YOUR PODCASTS. WE HAVE THE FUNDAMENTAL OF THE HUMAN BEING. AND WE HAVE THE FORM IN WHICH WE CONSTITUTE OUR POLICY. AND THE DANGER IS THAT IF OUR POLITICS BECOME TOO TRIBAL, THEN WE WILL LOSE WAY OF SPEAKING. WHY IS THIS GOING ON WITH CHRIS HAYES, SUBSCRIBE NOW. WE ARE BACK, AND WE HAVE NOT CALLED THIS RACE. IF YOU SAW THE MARGIN, I THINK WE CAN GO UP THE SEAL. WE KNOW MANY OF THOSE TRAVELING COUNTIES ARE STILL COMING. WE HAVE BEEN OBSERVING VERY SLOWLY THAT THE MARGIN HAS BEEN INCREASING.
NOW IT LOOKS LIKE 4,200. THERE WERE 4,500. HERE IS WHAT THIS REALLY MEANS, HOWEVER. TONIGHT WE KNOW THAT, ASSUME IOWA DOES NOT CHANGE ITS DELEGATE TOTAL ON US. DON'T ASSUME ANYTHING. BUT I THINK WE CAN HOLD ON -- YOU KNOW, WHEN ALL IS SAID AND DONE WITH THE DELEGATES, WE HAVE ASSIGNED THE MAJORITY. IT LOOKS LIKE WE HAVE FIVE TO AWARD HERE. VERY IMPRESSIVE. YOU ARE ON THE AIR NOW. WE HAVE FIVE MORE DELEGATES TO AWARD HERE BUT IT'S VERY POSSIBLE AND LIKELY WHEN I SEE THE NUMBERS HERE MARK MURRAY BERNIE SANDERS SAYS I HAVE MORE VOTES THAN ANYONE IN IOWA AND NEW HAMPSHIRE AND PETE BUTTIGIEG IS GOING TO SAY YES BUT I AM ONE IN THE BATTLE OF DELEGATES.
MAYBE FOR JUST ONE. BUT IT LOOKS LIKE HE WILL HAVE A LEAD FROM ONE OR TWO DELEGATES. TWO WEEKS AGO WE TOLD YOU THAT PETE BUTTIGIEG WOULD HAVE DELEGATE LEADER AFTER THIS, I THINK EVERYONE WOULD BE VERY SURPRISED. NOW THE LOAD IS CONVERTED, CAN YOU MAXIMIZE THE BUGS THAT DON'T LOOK LIKE IOWA AND NEW HAMPSHIRE? I WAS AT THE POLL TODAY AND NEW HAMPSHIRE VOTERS SAID WE REALLY HOPE FOR CLARITY AFTER TONIGHT. WE REALLY WISH WE COULD SAY THAT THIS PERSON IS A CLEAR PRINCIPAL. I ALWAYS SAY, THIS IS THE STATE THAT IS REALLY GOING TO AT LEAST BEGIN TO CLARIFY THINGS.
I THINK THEY WILL SEE AND WE STILL HAVE TO WAIT FOR THE RESULTS TO BE FINISHED, YOU WILL SEE THEM TRYING TO ACHIEVE THE VICTORY. AMY KLOBUCHAR IS RE-INTRODUCED TO THE WHOLE COUNTRY AFTER THIS. I CAN IMAGINE THE LINE. OH NO. THIS IS THE BEAUTY. YOU CAN LEARN ALL THE TRICKS. BUT HERE'S THE THING. WHEN YOU WAKE UP AND TURN ON YOUR TODAY SHOW. COLD OPEN. THE COLD OPENING, WHEN THAT'S GOING TO BE THERE, YOU'RE GOING TO HEAR THAT. AND WE WILL HEAR WHAT SANDERS STATES TONIGHT AND BUTTIGIEG. BUT SHE ALSO HAS HER NIGHT. HELLO, I'M AMY KLOBUCHAR.
SHE SAW IT LIKE, HEY I KNOW I'M INTRODUCING MYSELF. WE'RE ALL LEARNING THIS TOO. THE TRUMP ERA HAS BEEN LIKE THIS, I BELIEVE FOR THOSE OF US WHO COVER WASHINGTON FRANTIC AND MINUTE BY MINUTE AND ALL CONSUMPTION. I THINK THERE IS AN EXHAUSTION IN THE COUNTRY BECAUSE OF IT. LOOK, THEY WATCHED THE DEBATE AND THEY MADE UP -- HALF OF THEM MADE UP IN THE LAST THREE DAYS. THAT SHOULD TELL YOU THE OPPORTUNITY HE HAD ON FRIDAY. WELL, WE KNOW A LOT OF THESE VOTERS MADE LAST MINUTE DECISIONS. I SPOKE TO A COUPLE WHO SAID, YES, WE DECIDED ON THE NIGHT.
I SAID, HOW DO YOU DECIDE? THEY SAID, WELL, WHEN ALL THOSE RESULTS START COMING IN AT MIDNIGHT. THEY SAID, BY THE WAY, THEY VOTED FOR AMY KLOBUCHAR. I THINK THAT IMPULSE BUILD ON ITSELF. IT WILL BE INTERESTING TO SEE WHAT PETE BUTTIGIEG DOES FROM NEW HAMPSHIRE. HOW DO YOU SOLVE YOUR GREATEST PROBLEM, WHICH IS, OF COURSE, WOOTING MINORITY VOTERS? IT WILL BE INTERESTING TO SEE THE NATIONAL. THE THREE CANDIDATES OUT OF HERE PLUS MIKE BLOOMBERG. AND WHAT THE VOTERS THINK AFTER DIGESTING WHAT CAME OUT OF HERE AND THEN WATCHING BLOOMBERG OVER THE NEXT WEEKS. IT WILL BE FASCINATING.
YOU KNOW, DAVID WAS TALKING ABOUT THIS BEFORE ABOUT HOW IT BECOMES A DELEGATE PLAY. THE QUESTION I END UP HAVING IS DO WE HAVE A SITUATION DURING THE NEXT MONTH OR SO SO MUCH, PARTICULARLY WHEN IT COMES TO SUPER TUESDAY WHERE THOSE FOUR CANDIDATES ARE ALL AT 15% OR 20% AND ALL BASICALLY DIVIDING THE DELEGATES IN FOUR WAYS BECAUSE THE DEMOCRATIC THE MASS OF THE DELEGATE IS PROPORTIONAL OR WE END UP SEEING A SITUATION WHERE SOMEONE IS 30, 35 AND SOMEONE IS LESS THAN 15. I DON'T KNOW WHERE WE GET THAT FOUR WAY. I WANT TO GET TO DAVE WASSER MAN HERE BECAUSE I HOPE I WAS LISTENING BEFORE WHEN WE WERE EXTRAPOLATING INCOME HERE IN NEW HAMPSHIRE, SUBURBAN VOTE AND SHOWING LIKE SUPER TUESDAY, DON'T LOOK AT IT BY SPACE, LOOK AT IT BY MARKETS AND BY SUBURBAN VERSUS RURAL.
THIS IS NOT GOING TO BE A BATTLE OF STATES. IT WILL REALLY BE A BATTLE OF THE CONSTITUTION. YES. IT'S GOING TO BE HARD TO MEET WITH MULTIPLE CANDIDATES IN THE RACE. AND DEMOGRAPHICALLY, SUPER IMPOSE THEM IN FUTURE COMPETITIONS. WHEN HILLARY CLINTON, FOR EXAMPLE, WAS GOING TO DO VERY WELL. THIS TIME, IT IS UNPREDICTABLE BECAUSE THERE ARE CANDIDATES WHO MAY GET OUT OF THE RACE BY THE TIME IT IS PAST. ALTHOUGH, THERE IS NO REAL INCENTIVE FOR THE CANDIDATE TO FINISH STRONGLY INCLUDING KLOBUCHAR AND BUTTIGIEG TO NOT PRESSURE AND NOT NEGLECT STATES LIKE VIRGINIA, LIKE TENNESSEE AND OKLAHOMA.
YES. AND MINNESOTA AND MASSACHUSETTS. DAVID FLECK, WHAT ARE THE UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCES? BUTTIGIEG AND KLOBUCHAR BASICALLY START FIGHTING AMONG OTHERS TO TRY TO JOIN IN THIS MODERATED LANE. THERE IS A RISK IF THEY GO TOO HARD ON EACH OTHER. WE SAW THIS HAPPEN YEARS AGO. YES. IT WAS ONLY IN TWO STATES. YOU KNOW, THIS IS AFTER VERMONT, IT'S ONLY AT 26%, RIGHT? SO FIRST OF ALL, I THINK IF BEST CAN'T GROW UP TO 30 YEARS OLD THE ONLY WAY HE'S GOING TO BE THE NOMINATE IS BASED ON THE QUESTION YOU JUST ASKED THAT DAVE WAS TALKING ABOUT. IT'S NOT JUST AT FOUR.
IF YOU HAVE SIX. IF BIDEN AND WARREN HEAD TO TUESDAY, THERE COULD BE A SCENARIO IN A STATE LIKE CALIFORNIA WHERE, YOU KNOW, EVERYONE IS ON 13, 14, 15, 16. MAYBE THEY ARE APPEARING VIABLE IN SOME CONGRESSIVE DISTRICTS BUT MAYBE NOT ALL THE STATE. SO FOR ME, THIS IS WHERE THE RACE IS. IS THE BEST CAPABLE OF GROWING, THE NUMBER ONE? IF IT IS, IT PROBABLY IS THE NOMINEE. IF IT IS NOT, THEN HOW MUCH CONSOLIDATION IS MORE CENTER LEFT. I GUESS THERE IS A SCENARIO WHERE YOU CAN HAVE THREE CANDIDATES ALL BEING 28, 29 AND THEN NO ONE ACTUALLY BECOMES A PRODUCT.
THAT IS THE QUESTION. I THINK BLOOMBERG COMPLICATES IT VERY, VERY MUCH. RIGHT. BECAUSE LET'S SAY DURING THE NEXT 18 DAYS PETE OR AMY KLOBUCHAR AMY KLOBUCHAR TAKES THE FIRST TIME ON ONE OVER THE OTHER. WHAT IF JOE BIDEN WINS SOUTH CAROLINA? AND WILL RECEIVE SOME DELEGATES ON MARCH 3. SOME OF THIS DEPENDS ON HOW IT ALL TURNS OUT. BUT IF THEY GO AFTER THE OTHER, THAT WILL PROBABLY HELP BLOOMBERG, CHUCK, WOULD BE MY SENSE. IF IT IS A DEBATE IN NEVADA. BTW, SOUTH CAROLINA, WE'LL SEE. THAT IS REAL POLITICS. IT GETS HARD. YOU CAN'T EVEN GET SOME VOTES HERE IF YOU'RE NOT WILLING TO CAST SOME HEY MAKERS.
I'M CURIOUS, WHAT DO YOU THINK OF A GUY LIKE MICHAEL BLOOMBERG? OH BOY. GOOD QUESTION. I MEAN, LOOK, THE MESSENGER HAS BEEN PRETTY MOVING ON THE SIDE, A BILLIONAIRE BUYING AN ELECTION IS NOT DEMOCRATIC. AND HOW BASICALLY UNFAIR IS A PROCESS THAT CREATES. AND THAT HAS BEEN THE MESSAGE THAT WE HAVE BEEN PUBLISHING THERE AND THAT HAS BEEN, YOU KNOW, FOLLOW-UP WITH THE MEMBERS. AND THAT'S -- THAT'S THE PROBLEM BLOOMBERG IS GOING TO HAVE. IF YOU TRY, IF YOU WANT TO EXPAND. She DOES DO IT AND BECOMES, YOU KNOW, BECOMES A MODERATE SPECIES, YOU HAVE TO EXPAND THE DISCUSSION.
YOU HAVE TO BE ABLE TO ATTRACT THOSE BERNIE VOTERS TOO. IT CANNOT BE JUST THE MODERATE SIDE. THE DEMOCRATIC BASE IS BIG. IT IS A BIG TENT. AND THAT IS ONE THING THAT THEY ARE GOING TO HAVE TO RESOLVE. HOW DID YOU TAKE THAT SPIN FROM BEING A BILLIONAIRE THAT IS KIND OF RUNNING IN THIS ELECTION, YOU GOT IT BETWEEN? CONTROL ROOM, CAN YOU DO ME A FAVOR AND PUT THE MARGIN BACK? BECAUSE IT GETS SMALLER. WE ARE NOW BELOW 4,000. THE SPREAD IS NOW BELOW 4,000, JUST. WOW! NOW YOU HAVE 24.2% FOR WHAT IT'S WORTH. LOOK IF YOU WANT TO LOOK AT THE MAP OVER HERE GUYS COME ON -- YOU'RE STARTING TO SEE THESE COUNTIES STILL HERE WITH -- THIS IS A -- I THINK WE'LL CALL IT NAVY BLUE.
NOT ALL BLACK. WE ARE STARTING TO SEE A WHOLE BUNCH OF NAVY BLUE EXACTLY WHERE OUR FRIEND MR. WASSERMAN SAID BE CAREFUL HERE. I'VE NOTICED THIS NAVY BLUE HAS BEEN COMPETING WITH BERNIE SANDERS' PURPLE SO HE'S MAKING MARGINS BECAUSE THIS IS WHERE A LOT OF PEOPLE LIVE. RIGHT. IT'S WHERE A LOT OF PEOPLE LIVE. AND IT'S ALSO TYPICALLY, YOU KNOW, AN AREA WHERE YOU WOULD SEE. IT'S SUBURBAN, RIGHT? IT'S THE SUBURBS. WE ARE TALKING ABOUT MORE MODERATE MENTALS. THINK SUBURBAN VOTERS, WHETHER THEY ARE DEMOCRATS. UNDERSTANDABLE WHY THEY WOULD BE BREAKING UP FOR PETE. EVEN THE NAVY BLUE THERE, SOMETHING FROM THAT EDGE WITH VERMONT NOW.
WE TALKED IN 2016 ABOUT THE FORCE OF BERNIE SANDERS. SO MUCH CAME FROM THE BORDER CITIES WITH VERMONT. LOOKING AT THAT MAP RIGHT NOW, WHEN TERRY DAN OUR COLLEGE POLITICAL UNIT PRESENTED OUR 2016 COLOR MAP, IT WAS BASICALLY A COUPLE OF HILLARY CLINTON DOTS. THIS IS AN EQUAL CONTEST, EQUAL AT THIS TIME BY COUNTY AND BY CITY. LOOK, THEY HATED THE FACT WHEN I ASKED WEAVER A FEW QUESTIONS, HOW IMPORTANT IT IS TO WIN A THIRD OF THE VOTES, YOU KNOW. AND THEY DID NOT LIKE THAT. BUT YOU WILL HEAR SOME ADMIT, YES, 30%, WE WANT TO DO THAT.
LOOK, IF HE WINS, IT'S NOT HOW HE WANTED TO WIN. LOOK, A THIRD OF THE PARTY IS DIFFERENT FROM A FOURTH OF THE PARTY. WHETHER IT'S CLOSER TO A QUARTER OR A THIRD IS SOMETHING THAT MAKES A DIFFERENCE IN THE CONTEXT OF WHAT WE'VE ALL BEEN TALKING ABOUT THAT EVERYONE IS SPLITTING THE VOTES AND SUDDENLY THAT 5% BECOMES POTENTIALLY CRITICAL GOING FORWARD. I ALSO THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, THERE ARE A LOT OF QUESTIONS AND WE'VE ASKED THEM TONIGHT AND WE'VE BEEN ASKING THEM FOR THE LAST FOUR YEARS ABOUT WHETHER SANDERS WAS GOING TO BE ABLE TO GO FURTHER.
WE KNEW HE HAD A FLOOR, BUT WE WERE NOT SURE WHERE HIS ROOF WAS. AND THE RESULTS HERE IN A PLACE WHERE HE WAS INCREDIBLY STRONG WHERE THE ANTI-ESTABLISHMENT VOTE WAS SO STRONG AGAINST HILLARY CLINTON IN 2016 THAT HE HAD HIS MARGIN FOR TRUMP THEREFORE SAYS SOMETHING ABOUT HIS ABILITY TO DO. WE WERE TALKING EARLIER TODAY, COULD YOU BREAK 30%, 35% AND JUST NOT GOING IN THAT DIRECTION? PRESIDENT TRUMP IS WEIGHING. I SAW THAT. AND IT IS DECIDED. BASICALLY HIS FIRST HIT ON BUTTIGIEG. IT'S HIS FIRST SUCCESS ON BUTTIGIEG ON TWITTER, NOTably. HOW DID YOU SPELL IT? BUT IT SEEMS TO USE A DOUBLE E.
IT SEEMS LIKE AN INSULT TO ME AND I THINK WE CAN'T PUT THE TWEET ON THE SCREEN FOR PEOPLE. BUT HE SAYS HE'S DOING SO GOOD TONIGHT, GIVING MAD BERNIE A RUN FOR HIS MONEY, VERY INTERESTING. I SAY BUTTIGIEG IS ALMOST THE FUTURE UP HERE. THAT'S LIKE A BADGE OF HONOR. SO IT MAKES ME WONDER EXACTLY WHAT -- BY THE WAY HE HAS DONE THAT, ON HIS PREVIOUS RALLYS. HE SAYS BUTTIGIEG IS MOCKING HIS NAME. BUT, LOOK, HE'S CLEARLY TAKING NOTE OF WHAT'S GOING ON. HE COVERED THIS MAN VERY CLOSELY. YES. I FEEL I HAVE SOME PERSPECTIVE.
AND YOU CAN SAY. HE KNOWS HOW HE WANTS TO RUN AGAINST BERNIE. YES. HE STARTED TO GET NERVOUS ABOUT BIDEN AND PUT HIS PRESIDENCY ON THE Stake HE WAS SO NERVOUS ABOUT BERNIE. HE DON'T KNOW WHAT TO DO ABOUT PETE. YOU CAN SAY IT ON THE RECORD, ON THE RECORD, HE HAS NOTHING AGAINST HIM YET. I DON'T KNOW WHAT TO DO WITH IT. SO FAR WE'VE ONLY SEEN HIM MAKE FUN OF HIS NAME, AND THAT DOESN'T GET VERY FAR. THERE WAS ANOTHER MOCK. ALFRED E. NEWMAN. THAT HAPPENED OVER THE HEADS OF MANY PEOPLE. She had to GOOGLE THE REFERENCE.
I WAS PRETTY SURE I WAS OUT OF THE LEAGUE ON THAT, BTW. IT'S HIS WAY OF SAYING YOU'RE OUT OF TOUCH AND THAT'S THE WHOLE REASON TO RUN. IT'S REMARKABLE. PETE BUTTIGIEG IS PAST THE AGE OF THREE OF HIS DEMOCRATIC OPPONENTS AND ALMOST HALF THE AGE OF THE PRESIDENT. THIS IS A GREAT GENERATIONAL DISTINCTION THAT WE SEE HERE WITH HIM AND BASICALLY WITH EVERYONE ELSE. WELL IF YOU THINK ABOUT IT AND BEFORE HE KNEW THAT PETE BUTTIGIEG WAS EVEN RUNNING FOR PRESIDENT, HE THOUGHT ABOUT WHO COULD BE A STRONG CANDIDATE AGAINST PRESIDENT TRUMP. IT SHOULD BE A SPECIES FROM THE OPPOSITE POLAR IS NOT THE CORRECT WORD, BUT AN OPPOSITE POINT, IF YOU WILL.
SO IT IS. THAT'S WHAT PETE BUTTIGIEG IS. THIS WOULD BE AMY KLOBUCHAR. THAT'S TRUE. WHAT WE SAW IN THE REPUBLICAN FIELD IN 2016 AND IT IS TRUE. WHEN YOU TRY TO BEAT DONALD TRUMP LIKE MARCO RUBIO DID, IT DOESN'T WORK OUT VERY WELL. TIM ALBERTA SAID THAT. I THINK THE MAIN QUESTION HERE IS, YOU KNOW, WE'VE NEVER HAD A GAY PRESIDENTIAL NOMINEE BEFORE. THIS PRESIDENT HAS SHOWN A WILLINGNESS TO CROSS EVERY LINE OF THE BOOK. How far are you willing to go? I THINK IT WOULD BE HARD FOR HIM TO CROSS IT, BUT YOU MIGHT SEE HIM FIND OTHER INDIRECT WAYS TO TAKE IT TO HIM.
I'LL TELL YOU, HOWEVER, THE REASON WHY IT WAS -- THERE'S A LOT OF RISK. HE CAN FLY. GO BIG IN HIS OWN MATCH. THIS IS NOT LIKE ONE PARTY IS FOR MARRIAGE EQUALITY AND THE OTHER IS NOT. IS THERE A POCKET IN EVAN GELLICS'S REPUBLICAN COALITION THAT IS FOR MARRIAGE EQUALITY? THERE IS. BUT IT IS ALMOST EQUAL FOR HALF OF THE MATCH. CHUCK AND I TALKED A LOT ABOUT 2018. WHO WAS THE BIO OF THE MOST DEMOCRATIC PEOPLE WINNER? MILITARY CREDENTIALS. PETE BUTTIGIEG STANDS FOR THAT. IT WOULD BE MORE PERFECT IF PETE BUTTIGIEG WAS A WOMAN. BUT, AGAIN, WHAT MADE THOSE PEOPLE AGAINST THE PRESIDENT AND RUNNING AGAINST THE PRESIDENT IN THOSE RACEES FOR CONGRESS WAS THAT I AM A CHANGE MAKER.
BTW, PETE BUTTIGIEG BEATS KLOBUCHAR. 25% TO PETE BUTTIGIEG, 23% TO AMY KLOBUCHAR AND BERNIE SANDERS. HE HAS BEEN NERVOUS ABOUT A WOMAN RUNNING AGAINST PRESIDENT TRUMP. LET'S TAKE A LOOK AT THE CAMPAIGN. ALL ABOUT PETE THESE DAYS. I HAVE TO THINK THE REASON WE HAVEN'T SEEN HIM IS THAT THEY BELIEVE THERE IS AN OUTSIDE CHANCE OF GETTING BERNIE. YES. I MEAN, THEY THINK IT'S GOING TO BE A VERY DUMP RACE HERE. YOU HAVE PEOPLE CHEERING UP WHILE THEY ARE WATCHING THOSE RESULTS COMING IN. AT FIRST IT WAS A SLOW KIND OF TEARS BUT NOW YOU ARE HAVING THEM ALMOST CONSTANTLY AS THIS RACE CONTINUES TO ADJUST.
THE BUTTIGIEG CAMPAIGN IS LOOKING AT A NUMBER OF THESE EXIT POLLS AND LOOKING AT HOW PEOPLE THINK HE CAN BEAT TRUMP AND HOW WELL HE IS DOING ON SOME OF THESE ISSUES LIKE CLIMATE CHANGE. WHEN IT WILL GET HERE REMAINS TO BE SEE. BUT WE HAVE SEEN A NUMBER OF THEIR SUBSTITUTES. BUTTIGIEG'S MOM IS HERE. AND SO HOPEFULLY WE WILL SEE YOU WITH THE MAYOR SOON. WELL, IT'S INTERESTING. WE WERE ALERTED THAT HE WAS LEAVING SOON, AND THAT SOON WAS ABOUT 40 MINUTES AGO, CORRECT? I THINK THIS IS THE RIGHT TIME. YOU KEEP MENTIONING THAT. IT'S ABOUT THE TIME THAT IT STARTED TO COST BERNIE SANDERS.
THIS IS REMARKABLE. YES. WE HAVE HEARD THROUGHOUT THE NIGHT THAT YOU HAVE BEEN LOOKING ON THIS BOARD BEHIND YOU WHERE THE VOTE IS OUT. ARE WE STILL WAITING ON DARTMOUTH COURT? THAT'S A PLACE WHERE I THINK, YOU KNOW, THE BUTTIGIEG CAMPAIGN HAS ALSO OFFERED SOME HOPE. 100% OF HANOVER IS IN. PETE WON IT. THE QUESTION FOR HIM, HOWEVER, IS WHAT HAPPENS AFTER NEW HAMPSHIRE. WE STARTED TO DISCUSS THIS. BUT HOW DO YOU BEGIN TO COURT AFRICAN-AMERICAN VOTERS, THIS FORCE YOU'RE FIGHTING WITH? DOES HE REALLY NEED TO FILL THIS GAP? AND IN DEBATES, PRESSURE HAS BEEN PRESSED ON THIS SUBJECT.
THE LAST PEOPLE THOUGHT HE DID NOT ANSWER SATISFACTORILY. YOU WILL NEED SOME HELP. WHAT IS INTERESTING IS WHERE THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY IS GOING. IN THE AFRICAN AMERICAN COMMUNITY, THE LATINO COMMUNITY. WHO ELSE DO YOU CHOOSE? IS IT BUTTIGIEG OR AMY KLOBUCHAR? BUT SOMETIMES THE ACTORS OF THE PARTY WILL HAVE TO MOVE. JIM IS STILL APPROVED. HE'S A BUTTIGIEG BOY, CORRECT? LOOK, PETE BUTTIGIEG COULD END UP GETTING A LOT OF HELP FROM SOMEONE LIKE HIM WITH HIS STATURE WITHIN THE PARTY. BUT REMEMBER THAT BARACK OBAMA NEEDED THE HELP OF THE CANDIDATE CLAN. BUTTIGIEG WILL NEED HELP. WE'RE GOING TO GO BREAK HERE IN A SECOND.
BUT THERE IS AN INTERESTING SHOE THAT MAY FALL. WE HAVE NOT HEARD OF THE KENNEDY CLAN. THAT MAY MATTER. HARRY REED. YES. BY THE WAY, I HAVE ONE MOREFOR YOU. MAYBE HILLARY CLINTON CAN DECIDE TO BE WITH A WEIGHT. RIGHT. WE DON'T KNOW IF IT WILL DO IT AND WE DON'T KNOW IF IT'S A GOOD IDEA OR A BAD IDEA ON THAT FRONT. WE'RE GOING TO ESCAPE ON A QUICK BREAK HERE. WE ARE WAITING FOR PETE BUTTIGIEG. OBVIOUSLY HE HAS DECIDED TO SEE SOME NUMBERS COME IN. I WOULD. I WOULD LIKE TO. AT THIS MOMENT, WHAT ARE YOU WAITING FOR?
WHY NOT? BUT IT DOES LOOK LIKE THEY'RE COMING SOON SO WE'RE GOING AWAY ON A BREAK. PRESIDENTIAL PRIMARY HERE ON NBC NEWS NOW. WHITE TERRORISM AND WHITE SUPREMACIST TERRORISM IN THIS COUNTRY IS NOT A STRANGE ANALOGUE TO AL QAEDA OR ISIS. IT IS NOT SOMETHING FOREIGN THAT LOOKS LIKE SOMETHING WE HAVE BEEN FIGHTING WITH IN THE WAR ON TERROR. IT IS REALLY, FUNDAMENTALLY, AS AMERICAN AS ANYTHING. AND IT IS AN EXISTENTIAL THREAT TO THE MULTIRACIAL, PLURALIST AND EQUAL DEMOCRACY THAT WE HAVE FIGHTED FOR IN THIS COUNTRY SINCE PEOPLE KILLED ON THE BATTLEFIELD OF THE CIVIL WAR.
TONIGHT WE'RE GOING TO START WITH SOMETHING DIFFERENT. THIS IS ONE OF THOSE DELEGATIONS THAT YOU MAY NOT OTHERWISE HEAR ON THE NEWS, BUT IS STILL WITH ME. FEED YOUR MIND WITH A FRESH PERSPECTIVE. GET YOUR FAVORITE NBC SHOWS NOW WITH PODCASTS. FIND CLARITY IN THE CHAOS. IF IT IS UNDERSTANDING THE HISTORY OF THE MOMENT. IT'S VERY BIG. IT'S KEEPING EVERYONE TO THE SAME STANDARD AND IF IT'S SUNDAY, IT'S "MEET THE PRESS." YOU ARE WATCHING NBC "NEWS NOW." WE HAVE SOME BREAKING NEWS. BROUGHT MORE TO THE CAUCUSES. THESE ARE NEWS MADE FOR YOUR STREAMING WORLD. LIVE, WEEKDAYS, 3:00 TO 11:00 P.M.
ORIENTAL. HE MEETS THE PRESS CHUCK TODD CAST. AN INSIDE SHOT WITH POLITICS AND MORE WITH SOME OF MY FAVORITE REPORTERS. GET IT FREE WHEREVER YOU GET YOUR PODCASTS. NEED YOUR TRUE CRIME SOLUTION ON THE GO? "DATELINE" EPISODES ARE AVAILABLE AS PODCASTS. MYSTERIES WITH A TWIST. FROM THE ORIGINAL TRUE CRIME. WOW. LISTEN TO "DATELINE" WHEREVER YOU GET YOUR PODCASTS. WE HAVE THE FUNDAMENTAL OF THE HUMAN BEING. AND WE HAVE THE FORM IN WHICH WE CONSTITUTE OUR POLICY. AND THE DANGER IS THAT IF OUR POLITICS BECOME TOO TRIBAL, THEN WE WILL LOSE WAY OF SPEAKING. WHY IS THIS GOING ON WITH CHRIS HAYES, SUBSCRIBE NOW.
YOU ARE LOOKING AT LIVE IMAGES OF THE PETE BUTTIGIEG EVENT. WE'RE EXPECTING IT TO COME OUT ANY MINUTE NOW AND WE'RE SITTING HERE TRYING TO FIND OUT WHAT VOTE IS THERE THAT WILL KEEP YOU WAITING TO SEE IF YOU CAN CATCH BEST TONIGHT. WE ARE CLOSE. IT IS, YOU KNOW, WE DIDN'T CALLED HIM FOR SOME REASON. WE STILL WANT TO SEE SOME VOTES FROM THE UNIVERSITY OF NEW HAMPSHIRE. STILL A GOOD 20%, 25% OF THE VOTES STILL OUT. WE WANT TO SEE SALEM. HERE IS THE BOTTOM LINE. HERE'S THE MATHS FOR PETE. OF THE REMAINING VOTE, YOU NEED TO WIN 25% IF YOU ARE GOING TO SIDE.
IT'S UNLIKELY. BUT THE FACT IS THAT IT IS STILL POSSIBLE. AND, MARK, YOU ASKED FOR 10% OF THE VOTES. WE THINK THERE MAY BE AN UNCOUNTED 10% TONIGHT. IT LOOKS LIKE BY TALKING TO OUR GUYS IN THE BOILER ROOM WE CAN GET CLOSER TO THAT VOTE. THEY ARE DOING A GOOD JOB OF COUNTING AND GETTING THOSE. BECAUSE YOU ARE RIGHT. WE WERE CLOSE ENOUGH. CAN YOU IMAGINE THE CONTINUOUS NIGHTS AND WE CAN'T CALL IT? SO LOOK, WE WANT TO SEE THIS. WAIT UNTIL WE GET A GOOD 90%. WHICH IN ITSELF, YOU KNOW, ISN'T A -- IT'S A KIND LIKE ONE -- NOT THE BIGGEST WIN FOR BERNIE.
YES. LET'S GO TO BUTTIGIEG'S CAMPAIGN WARRIOR. I IMAGINE THERE WILL BE A LOT A LOT HERE, SO I'LL LET YOU GET STARTED. Reporter: HE WILL TAKE STAGE HERE MOMENTARILY. YOUR CO-CHAIRS SPEAK, ONE AT A TIME HERE. WE WERE TALKING BEFORE THIS RACE. WHEN YOU'RE LOOKING AT NEW HAMPSHIRE, LOOK BACK A YEAR AGO. THEY DID NOT HAVE A CAMPAIGN OPERATION HERE. ELIZABETH WARREN AND BEST, ON THE CONTRARY, HAVE MUCH HAD OPERATIONS HERE. ELIZABETH WARREN WOULD HAVE BEEN WELL INTRODUCED FROM THE BOSTON MEDIA MARKET HERE. THEREFORE, FOR BUTTIGIEG'S CAMPAIGN TO END, IT IS SIGNIFICANT. IN PARTICULAR, SOME OF THE OUTPUT SURVEY NUMBERS NOT ONLY FROM IOWA BUT ALSO IN NEW HAMPSHIRE.
ONE OF THOSE WE WANT TO NOTE, WHEN THE VOTERS ASKED HIM, WHEN THEY PRESENTED WHICH CANDIDATE TO VOTE FOR, THERE IS A QUESTION OF WHETHER THEY CHOOSE THE CANDIDATE BASED ON THE NOMINE WHO COULD BEAT DONALD TRUMP. WHEN VOTERS WERE ASKED THAT QUESTION, PETE BUTTIGIEG GOT 27% OF THAT VOTE. SANDERS 19%, BIDEN 13%. AT ONE POINT IN THIS CAMPAIGN PROCESS OVER THE LAST YEAR, JOE BIDEN WAS THOUGHT AMONG THE VOTERS AS THE MOST LIKELY TO BEAT DONALD TRUMP. BUT SUDDENLY PETE BUTTIGIEG TAKES ONE BIGGEST PART AND THEN AMY KLOBUCHAR TAKES THE NEXT BIGGEST PART. THAT IS WHAT YOU WILL NEED TO DO.
NOT JUST WHITE VOTERS BUT ALSO VOTERS OF COLOR THAT NOT JUST IN PLACES LIKE NEW HAMPSHIRE AND IOWA BUT IN PLACES LIKE DETROIT AND WISCONSIN, THE MILWAUKEE AREA THAT EXACTLY BUTTIGIEG WILL BE ABLE TO DO. I THINK PETE BUTTIGIEG HERE WILL GO ON STAGE MOMENTARILY. THROW? ALL GOOD. WE WILL KEEP OUR EAR OUT. WE WILL KEEP THE PHOTOS HERE WHILE WE WAIT TO SEE. IT LOOKS LIKE WE'LL SEE IT A COUPLE OF SECONDS FROM HERE. MARK MURRAY, IT WILL BE ASSUMED THAT THE CHALLENGE OF WINNING UP MINORITY VOTERS, YOU WILL BE HONEST, I THOUGHT HE HAS NOT YET FOUND A GOOD ANSWER TO WHAT I CALL THE FERGUSON QUESTION.
HE WAS MAYOR DURING FERGUSON. YES. FERGUSON WAS THIS BRIGHT NEON SIGN THAT TOLD ME THAT EVERY MAYOR IN AMERICA NEEDED TO LOOK AT THE COMPOSITION OF THEIR POLICE FORCE. AND A COUPLE ASKED ABOUT THAT. WHEN HE TALKED ABOUT THE FIRST THING, HE SAID WE HAD TO DO IT. TWO DIFFERENT PEOPLE TOLD ME SEPARATELY, YOU KNOW, THE FIRST THING SHOULD HAVE BEEN THAT WE WANTED TO HIRE MORE MINORITY POLICE AND THAT WAS NOT THEIR INSTINCT. THEY HEARD THAT ANSWER AND IT WAS ALMOST SOMEONE HOPING TO GET THEIR BETTER ANSWER. HE HAS A WAY TO GO. WE TALKED ABOUT HOW PETE BUTTIGIEG WAS AN OUTSIDE CANDIDATE.
BUT ONE OF THE DOWNSIDES OF BEING NEW TO THE WHOLE SCENE IS THAT YOU HAVE NOT EVEN PAID YOUR DUES AND NOW MANY POWERFUL LEADERS IN THE MINORITY. WHEN BILL CLINTON WAS AN ALIEN IN 1992, AT LEAST HE HAD BEEN GOVERNOR OF ARKANSAS FOR SEVERAL TERMS. AND THE NATIONAL GOVERNORS ASSOCIATION ALLOWED HIM TO BE -- HE WORKED WITH LAMAR ALEXANDER ON NATIONAL EDUCATION POLICY. EVEN THOUGH I WAS INCREDIBLY YOUNG AND THOSE RELATIONSHIPS ENDED THEY MATTER. AND MANY TIMES IT'S LIKE, HAVE YOU BEEN IN OUR FIGHT? HOW LONG HAVE WE KNOWN YOU? CAN WE TRUST YOU? YOU HAVE YET TO ANSWER THOSE QUESTIONS.
I REMEMBER IN '08, THE OBAMA CAMPAIGN SAYING YOU KNOW WHEN BARACK OBAMA BEGAN TO KNOW THE BLACK CHURCH COMMUNITY OF THE SOUTH WAS IN '05 AND '06. I went on weekends. HE DIDN'T GOT HIS MEANS. BUT HE ONLY SPENT TIME AT BLACK CHURCH IN BLACK CHAR CHURCH IN THE SOUTH. WHEN HE WAS A KID, HE SPENT TIME IN HAWAII. HE DID NOT HAVE HIS OWN EXPERIENCE IN THE BLACK CHURCH IN THE SOUTH, WHICH IS CULTURALLY DIFFERENT. ONCE THEY MET HIM, I ASKED HIM ABOUT PETE'S CAMPAIGN, YOU KNOW, I THINK THE FIRST TIME HE ACTUALLY SPENT TIME IN THE BLACK CHURCH COMMUNITY, PARTICULARLY IN THE SOUTH, IS IN THE LAST MONTHS.
THAT'S THE COMPLAINT I THINK HE HEARS FROM THE BLACK COMMUNITY IS THAT HE HAS SAID SINCE THE BEGINNING OF THIS BID, HE HAS THIS PROBLEM WITH THE COMMUNITY IN SOUTH BEND, AND HE SAID OVER AND OVER, THEY DON'T KNOW ME YET. I HAVE TO TALK TO THEM. WE ARE NOW IN THE SECOND COMPETITION AND THOSE NUMBERS HAVE NOT MOVED. IT IS NOT A COMMUNITY -- I HAVE DEALT ENOUGH IN CAPITOL HILL, THE DEEP AND LONG RELATIONSHIPS THAT HAVE BEEN ESTABLISHED, AN IMPORTANT FIGURE. YOU KNOW, THE PEOPLE WHO ARE THE MEDIATORS OF POWER AMONG THE AFRICAN-AMERICAN COMMUNITY, THEY DON'T WANT YOU TO JUST SHOW UP WHEN YOU WANT TO BE PRESIDENT.
THEY WANT YOU TO BE THERE. THEY PASSED THROUGH REALITY, PASSED THROUGH TWO GENERATIONS OF THAT. THEY ARE TIRED OF IT. THEY ARE TIRED OF IT. AND THE CHALLENGE, I THINK, AS HE SAID -- CHUCINE SAID IN HIS INTERVIEW WHEN CHUCK TALKED TO MAYOR PETE ON SUNDAY THAT WHILE THE MISTAKE I MADE WITH THE POLICE CHIEF IS THAT I WILL NEVER FIRE SOMEONE WITHOUT HAVING A NEW CONVERSATION. I WAS IMPRESSED THAT WOULD BE YOUR APPROACH. AND PETE BUTTIGIEG HAPPENS TO HAVE A LOT OF FIRE COMING IN HERE. YES. BUT TALKING ABOUT PETE BUTTIGIEG AND HIS FLAWS, BERNIE SANDERS' FLAWS WERE VERY EVIDENT IN 2016.
THOUGH, HE COULD DO BETTER WITH YOUNGER AFRICAN-AMERICAN VOTERS THIS TIME. AMY KLOBUCHAR DOESN'T REALLY HAVE -- YOU KNOW, BEING FROM MINNESOTA. AND YOU LOOK AT JOE BIDEN, THE OTHER PLAYER, AND HIS NUMBERS BEGIN TO GO DOWN. AND ONE MORE, MICHAEL BLOOMBERG. SO THEY ARE ALL DEFECTIVE. AND HOW THE QUESTION BECOMES HOW DOES IT END UP BREAKING? I DON'T KNOW. THE ONE WHO SPOKE IN '08. ACTUALLY, I'M GOING TO INTERRUPT YOU BECAUSE WE ARE WATCHING LIVE PHOTOS OF MAYOR PETE TAKING THE PODIUM IN NEW HAMPSHIRE WHERE THEY HAVE NOT YET CALLED WHO WON. THANK YOU! THANK YOU, NEW HAMPSHIRE.
THANK YOU SO MUCH. ONCE AGAIN TO OUR PHENOMENAL CO-PRESIDENTS OF THE STATE OF NEW HAMPSHIRE. THANK YOU FOR YOUR COMMITMENT. THANKS TO OUR EXTRAORDINARY NATIONAL CO-PRESIDENT WHO KNOWS HOW TO RAISE THE ROOF AND HOW TO GET THE VOTES. AND THANKS TO THE LOVE OF MY LIFE THAT KEEPS ME GROUNDED AND MAKES ME COMPLETE. I WANT TO CONGRATULATE MY COMPETITORS AND THEIR SUPPORTERS ON THEIR CAMPAIGNS HERE IN NEW HAMPSHIRE. I ADMIRED SENATOR SANDERS WHEN HE WAS A HIGH SCHOOL STUDENT. I RESPECT HIM SO MUCH TO THIS DAY, AND THE ICON GARAGE DELAYED HIM ON HIS STRONG SHOW TONIGHT.
AND I WANT TO CONGRATULATE SENATOR KLOBUCHAR, SENATOR WARREN, VICE PRESIDENT BIDEN AND ALL OF OUR DEMOCRATIC CANDIDATES AND SUPPORTERS. AND I KNOW WE ALL SHARE THE SPIRIT WE HEARD FROM SOME OF OUR VOLUNTEERS EARLIER TODAY AT A MEETING PLACE WELCOMING A CANDIDATE IN COMPETITION WITH BLUE VOTE CHANTS NO MATTER WHOM. WE ARE ON THE SAME TEAM. NOW OVER THE PAST YEAR, SOME TWO DOZEN CAMPAIGNS HAVE CROSSED THIS STATE, EACH CLAIMING THE ABILITY TO UNITE PEOPLE, GET THE VOTE, AND MOVE AMERICAN TOWARDS A BRIGHTER FUTURE. THAT TOO. AND HERE IN THE STATES IT IS CALLED BY THE MOTTO, LIVE FREE OR DIE.
YOU MADE YOUR OWN OPINIONS. YOU AFFIRMED THAT FAMOUS INDEPENDENT STREAK. AND THANKS TO YOU, A CAMPAIGN THAT SOME SAID SHOULD NOT BE HERE HAS SHOWN THAT WE ARE HERE TO STAY. SO MANY OF YOU, SO MANY OF YOU PARTICIPATED. THE HARD-TO-DEATH DEMOCRATS, THE INDEPENDENTS UNWILLING TO STAND SIDE AND EVEN SOME RECENTLY FORMER REPUBLICANS. READY TO VOTE FOR A POLICY DEFINED BY HOW MANY WE CALL INSTEAD OF WHOM WE CALL. MANY OF YOU CHOSE TO FACE A NEW ERA OF CHALLENGE WITH A NEW GENERATION OF LEADERSHIP. MANY OF YOU DECIDED THAT A MIDDLE CLASS MAYOR AND VETERAN OF THE INDUSTRIAL MIDWEST WAS THE RIGHT CHOICE TO OFFICE THIS PRESIDENT, NOT IN SPITE OF THAT EXPERIENCE, BUT BECAUSE OF IT.
NOW OUR CAMPAIGN IS MOVING TO NEVADA, IN SOUTH CAROLINA, TO COMMUNITIES ACROSS OUR COUNTRY. AND AT EACH STEP WE WELCOME NEW ALLIES TO OUR MOVEMENT. WE WILL GET AHEAD THANKS TO THE WORK OF OUR EXTRAORDINARY TEAM OF STAFF AND ORGANIZERS AND VOLUNTEERS. I MAY BE BIASED ON THIS, BUT I AM ALSO RIGHT. WE HAVE THE BEST TEAM IN POLITICS TODAY. United States! USA! USA! AND I WANT YOU TO KNOW THAT YOU DON'T RUST, YOU REPRESENT ME WELL, YOU INSPIRE ME. AND I CANNOT SAY HOW GRATEFUL I AM FOR OUR EXTRAORDINARY TEAM. THANK YOU. AND WE KNOW THAT THE TEAM IS SPREAD THROUGHOUT THE COUNTRY.
WE REMAIN POWERED BY HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF SUPPORTERS OF THE WOMAN IN MINNESOTA WHO DONATED IN HONOR OF THE WIFE WHO LOST TO LUNG CANCER THE CANDIDATE'S VETERAN WHO SENT $19.68 IN HONOR OF THE YEAR HE SERVED IN VIETNAM. THIS CAMPAIGN BELONGED TO THEM. AND IF OUR CAMPAIGN MOVED YOU, I HOPE TO GO TO PETEFORAMERICA.COM AND SUPPORT WHATEVER YOU CAN. AND WE GO FORWARD KNOWING THAT THIS IS OUR CHANCE, OUR ONLY CHANCE, NOT JUST TO END THE DONALD TRUMP ERA BUT TO LAUNCH THE ERA WE KNOW MUST COME NEXT. AND THE BETS, THE BETS COULDN'T BE HIGHER.
WE CANNOT MISS THE MARK OR MISS THIS MOMENT. WE MUST DO THIS RIGHT. WITH AMERICANS LIVING UNDER A PRESIDENT WHO WILL NOT ACCOUNT THAT HE WILL CUT TAXES FOR CORPORATIONS AND THEN CUT MEDICARE, MEDICAID AND SOCIAL SECURITY FOR THE REST OF US, WE NEED TO DO THIS RIGHT. WHEN PEOPLE OF COLOR FEAR FOR THEIR OWN PLACE IN THEIR OWN COUNTRY, WHILE CHILDREN ARE TAKEN FROM THEIR PARENTS AT THE BORDER, WE MUST DO THIS RIGHT. AND WHEN A COMMANDER IN CHIEF FORGIVES WAR CRIMINALS AND PUNISHES WAR HEROES WHILE SYSTEMATICALLY DEMOLISHING THE CREDIBILITY OF OUR CURRENCY IN THE EYES OF THE WORLD, WE DON'T DARE PLAY FOUR MORE YEARS OF THIS PRESIDENCY.
WE ARE LISTENING TO MAYOR PETE BUTTIGIEG TALK ABOUT HIS SECOND PLACE FINISH LOOKS HERE IN NEW HAMPSHIRE. NBC NEWS CAN NOW PROJECT BEST TO WIN THE NEW HAMPSHIRE PRIMARY. IT'S A MUCH CLOSER MARGIN THAN WHEN WE WON HERE IN 2016 AGAINST HILLARY CLINTON. THIS IS THE MOST LIKELY TO BE THE NARROWEST. RIGHT NOW WITH 86% REPORTS. BEST HAD 26% OF THE VOTES. PETE BUTTIGIEG HAD 26 PRESIDENT. 5,000 VOTES OR MORE SEPARATING THEM. AMY KLOBUCHAR AT 20% WITH 49,000 VOTES. SO BERNIE SANDERS WON AS WE EXPECTED. MAYBE NOT BY AS MUCH AS THEY WOULD HAVE LIKED TO SEE. WHERE DO WE GO FROM HERE?
NEVADA OF COURSE. BUT THEY HAVE A PROJECTED 1.8 OF BERNIE SANDERS IN HIS WIN. FOR ME, YOU HAVE TO GIVE CREDIT TO SANDERS AND HIS CAMPAIGN. YOU HAVE BEEN PLAYING THE DRUM FOR A LONG TIME. IN MANY WAYS, I THINK WE LOOK BACK AT THE FALL. AND RIGHT AFTER HE SUFFERED HIS HEART ATTACK, I THINK THERE WERE A LOT OF PEOPLE WHO SAID HE WAS NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO CONTINUE AND GATHERED THE TROOPS AND LOOK AT THISVICTORY IN NEW HAMPSHIRE. THERE WILL PROBABLY BE MORE EXAMINATION ON THAT EPISODE. LET'S BRING OUR ROAD WARRIOR. .

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