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2020 New Hampshire Primary Results And Analysis | NBC News (Live Stream Recording)

2020 New Hampshire Primary Results And Analysis | NBC News (Live Stream Recording)
AND MOST PEOPLE HAVE SAID IT'S ABOUT FOUR TO FIVE MINUTE FROM START TO FINISH WHICH IS A BIG DIFFERENCE FROM YEARS PAST. I HAVE TO EMPHASIZE THIS IS STILL IN THE TESTING PHASE AND IF YOU TAKE A LOOK AT THESE TABLES BACK HERE, THEY DO STILL HAVE A PAPER SYSTEM THAT IS THE BACKUP, AND THAT'S ACTUALLY GOING TO BE USED FOR THE OFFICIAL RECORD AND THE TESTING IS GOING REALLY WELL AND IT'S CERTAINLY SPREAD SPEEDING UP THE PROCESS FOR BOTH VOTERS AND WORKERS IN THE PAST WHO
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HAVE HAD TO DEAL WITH PRETTY REGRUMPY PEOPLE WANTING TO GET OUT OF HERE FASTER. >> LOOKS LIKE PEOPLE ARE MOVING THROUGH, DOESN'T LOOK LIKE A LOT OF HOLDOUTS. HOW IS TURNOUT AND HOW HAVE THINGS BEEN LOOKING THROUGHOUT THE DAY AS YOU'VE BEEN THERE? >> YEAH. LET ME TALK TO YOU ABOUT TURNOUT. AND LET ME PULL UP SOME NUMBERS HERE. AS OF A FEW MINUTES AGO 6,100 BALLOTS HAVE BEEN CAST. THAT'S ACTUALLY NOT COUNTING THE 326 NEWLY REGISTERED VOTERS THAT HAVE ALSO CAST
BALLOTS, AND IF YOU TAKE A LOOK AT THIS TABLE BACK HERE, THIS IS ANOTHER UNIQUELY NEW HAMPSHIRE THING. IF YOU WALK THROUGH THESE DOORS TODAY AND YOU'RE UNREGISTERED YOU CAN REGISTER TO VOTE, REGISTER AS DEMOCRAT, REPUBLICAN OR UNDECLARED HERE AND GO ON OVER HERE AND ACTUALLY CAST YOUR BALLOT. >> JUST TO GIVE YOU CONTEXT FROM PREVIOUS YEAR IN TERMS OF TURNOUT IN 2016. 10,000 BALLOTS WERE CAST BY THE END OF THE NIGHT HERE BUT, REMEMBER, THAT WAS TWO CONTESTED PRIMARIES,
DEMOCRAT AND REPUBLICANS HERE: LAST TO IMTHERE WAS AN INCUMBENT PRIMARY ELECTION, ONLY ABOUT 6100 VOTERS TOTAL BY THE END OF THE NIGHT CAST THEIR BALLOTS HERE SO WE'VE ALREADY SURPASSED THE LAST INCUMBENT ELECTION IN TERMS OF TURNOUT. >> LOOKING PRETTY GOOD SO FAR IN LONDON DRY. I KNOW YOU'VE BEEN TALKING TO THE VOTERS. WHO ARE THE CANDIDATES GETTING A LOT OF ATTENTION? WHO ARE THEY INTO? >> WE TALK ABOUT A LOT WHEN IT COMES TO NEW HAMPSHIRE, A LOT OF UP DECLARED
VOTERS AND WE HAVE BEEN MEETING THEM H.MOST OF THOSE VOTERS THAT I HAVE TALKED TO, PETE BUTTIGIEG, AMY KLOBUCHAR, A LITTLE BIT OF ANDREW YANG AND A LITTLE BIT BEFORE BERNIE SANDERS. THIS IS REALLY NOT SANDERS COUNTRY, BUT ONE IMPORTANT NARRATIVE THAT'S BEEN SURPRISING THE ELECTION WORKERS HERE IS JUST HOW MANY REPUBLICAN BALLOTS ARE BEING CAST CONSIDERING DONALD TRUMP DOES NOT REALLY HAVE MUCH COMPETITION. RIGHT NOW IT'S ABOUT 60% DEMOCRATIC BALLOTS AND 40% REPUBLICAN
BALLOTS WHICH -- WHICH IS, AGAIN, QUITE A BIT, AND WHEN WE TALK TO THOSE VOTERS WHO CAME OUT HERE TO VOTE FOR TRUMP, THEY TOLD US THEY ARE HERE TO SHOW SUPPORT. ONE WOMAN TOLD ME THAT THIS IS A PROTEST VOTE AGAINST IMPEACHMENT AND REALLY THE -- THE VOTERS THAT I'VE BEEN TALKING TO, THEY ARE HERE TO COME TO THE DEFENSE OF THE PRESIDENT AND SHOW THAT, YES, HE'S NOT IN A COMPETITIVE RACE BUT THEY WANT TO SHOW HIM THAT PEOPLE HERE IN NEW HAMPSHIRE ARE COME OUT FOR HIM AND HE DOES
HAVE -- HIS CAMPAIGN HAS A PRETTY SIGNIFICANT GROUND GAME HERE IN NEW HAMPSHIRE AND MANCHESTER LAST NIGHT HE HELD A VERY BIG RALLY SO A LOT OF PEOPLE ENERGIZEDED FROM THAT AND COMING THROUGH HERE AND VOTING FOR PRESIDENT. >> STRONG SUPPORT THERE. THANKS SO MUCH FOR SHOWING US HOW THEY ARE DOING THINGS A LITTLE DIFFERENTLY THERE. >> THANKS, ALISON. >> HE WALKED AWAY WITH THE MOST DELEGATES FROM IOWA, AND TONIGHT PETE BUTTIGIEG IS GOING AFTER ANOTHER FIRST PLACE FINISH
IN NEW HAMPSHIRE. NBC ROAD WARRIOR VAUGHAN HILLIARD IS WITH THE BUTTIGIEG CAMPAIGN. JUST A FEW MORE HOURS TO GO BEFORE POLLS CLOSE. HOW IS HIS CAMPAIGN FEELING ABOUT THINGS TONIGHT? >> FOALS GOOD. YOU'VE GOT MY HAND WARMER HERE AND THIS IS A CAMPAIGN THAT BELIEVES IT'S WARMING UP. AFTER THAT ESSENTIALLY AN IOWA TIE JUST ONE WEEK AGO, HERE IN NEW HAMPSHIRE POLLING EVIDENCE SHOWS THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR THE BUTTIGIEG CAMPAIGN TO LAY CLAIM TO AN ABILITY TO WIN NOT ONLY
IN THE MIDWEST AND IOWA BUT BEYOND, AND WHEN I SAY BEYOND, IN BERNIE SANDERS AND ELIZABETH WARREN'S BACKYARD, VERMONT AND MASSACHUSETTS RIGHT NEXT DOOR. THIS IS WHY THIS CAMPAIGN VIEWS NEW HAMPSHIRE AS A TERRIFIC OPPORTUNITY FOR IT. TAKE INTO ACCOUNT FOUR YEARS AGO, BERNIE SANDERS WON NEW HAMPSHIRE BY 22 PERCENTAGE POINTS, ALISON, AND IN THIS CAMPAIGN, AT LEAST ACCORDING TO POLLING, SHOWS THEM NECK AND NECK HERE WITH BERNIE SANDERS. THE QUESTION IS JOE BIDEN, ELIZABETH WARREN AND
THE BIG WILD CARD IN THIS RACE HERE IN NEW HAMPSHIRE, AMY KLOBUCHAR, CUT INTO HIS SUPPORT. HE NEEDS A BIG TURNOUT HERE IN NEW HAMPSHIRE TO PROPEL HIM AND TO MAKE THE CASE TO THE VOTERS IN NEVADA AND SOUTH CAROLINA AND THOSE LATER SUPER TUESDAY STATES THAT HE'S A VIABLE CANDIDATE TO TAKE ON DONALD TRUMP NEXT FALL. >> YOU BRING UP THOSE STATES THAT HE'S LOOKING TOWARDS BEYOND NEW HAMPSHIRE. THE ISSUE THEY ARE MORE DIVERSE STATES AND BUTTIGIEG HAS BEEN STRUGGLING IN
PARTICULAR WITH THE BLACK STATE. WHAT IS HIS CAMPAIGN DOING AS THEY TRY TO PLAN FOR THE NEXT STATES AND DEAL WITH THAT ISSUE? >> FIRST OF ALL, TAKE INTO ACCOUNT THIS CAMPAIGN LAUNCHED A YEAR AGO. MOST FOLKS IN NEW HAMPSHIRE DIDN'T KNOW WHO PETE BUTTIGIEG, THE MAYOR OF SOUTH BEND, INDIANA WAS AND THAT'S WHY THEY PUT A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF TIME, ENERGY AND RESOURCES INTO IOWA AND INTO NEW HAMPSHIRE BECAUSE THEY BELIEVE BEFORE YOU JUMP TOO FAR AHEAD YOU HAVE TO VALIDATE
YOUR CANDIDACY IN THOSE FIRST STATES WHICH YOU CAN CONTEND THEY DID IN IOWA AND THEY ARE HOPING TO DO TONIGHT. CAMPAIGN SAYS, YOU KNOW, TO BACK THEM UP TO A CERTAIN DEGREE, WHEN YOU'RE TALKING TO VOTERS AND OTHER STATES YOU CONSISTENTLY HEAR ABOUT THE DESIRE TO BEAT DONALD TRUMP. THE BUTTIGIEG CAMPAIGN CONTENDS COMMUNITIES OF COLORS HAVE THE MOST TO LEARN UNDER A SECOND TERM OF THE TRUMP ADMINISTRATION, AND THEY BELIEVE ONCE VOTERS REALIZE, WHITE VOTERS AND NON-WHITE VOTERS THAT
IS PETE BUTTIGIEG IS A LEGITIMATE CANDIDATE THAT COULD BEAT DONALD TRUMP, THEY WILL BEGIN TO TAKE HIM MORE SERIOUSLY. THAT'S WHY JOE BIDEN WAS POLLING SO WELL, SPECIFICALLY AMONG OLDER AFRICAN-AMERICAN VOTERS, BUT WHAT YOU SAW JUST YESTERDAY, QUINNIPIAC RELEASED A NATIONAL POLL OF SUPPORT NATIONALLY AMONG BLACK VOTERS AND JOE BIDEN'S SUPPORT HAS SLOWLY GONE DOWN. YOU SEE MICHAEL BLOOMBERG WHO HAS MADE A SIGNIFICANT ADVERTISING BUY IN A LOT OF THESE STATES TO GET HIS NAME UP.
HE WAS UP AT 22%. PETE BUTTIGIEG WAS JUST AT 4% AND MOUTH POLL SHOWS HIM AT 8% AND THIS IS WHERE THE BIG HURDLE WAS, SO EACH IF HE PULLS OFF A WIN HERE TONIGHT, HE STILL HAS A LOT TO PROVE OVER THE NEXT TWO WEEKS. >> I IMAGINE THEY WILL TAKE IT ONE PRIMARY AT A TIME. THE THANK YOU SO MUCH. >>> SENATOR ELIZABETH WARREN FIGHTING A BIT OF AN UPHILL BATTLE IN NEW HAMPSHIRE. TOMORROW THE LATEST NATIONAL POLL HAS WARREN IN THIRD PLACE TIED WITH PETE BUTTIGIEG WHO IS IN THERE
AT 13%. NBC ROAD WARRIOR ALLY VITALY JOINS US LIVE. A WIN IN NEW HAMPSHIRE COULD GIVE ONE A NICE BOOST OR PUT YOU CLOSER TO THE LEAD AND A DISAPPOINTING FINISH WHO DROP HER MORE IN THE POLLS. THE HOW ARE THE CAMPAIGNS FEELING ABOUT THE SENATOR'S POSITION ON THIS RACE ON THIS NEW HAMPSHIRE NIGHT? >> WELL, ALISON. THEY HAVE ALWAYS TAMPED DOWN WITH EXPECTATIONS TONIGHT AND THEY ARE OUT WITH A NEW CAMPAIGN MANAGER ROGER LAU THAT PUTS ALL THE THREADS I'VE BEEN REPORTING THIS
YEAR INTO ONE PLACE AND THEY EXPECT THIS TO BE A PRIMARY AND WITH NO CLEAR FROM UNREMEMBER OUT OF IOWA AND THEY HOPE OUT OF NEW HAMPSHIRE THEIR PLAN IS TO CONTINUE DOWN THE CALENDAR AND CONTINUE BUILDING COALITIONS AND CONTINUE, OF COURSE, SCOOPING UP DELEGATES. THAT'S REALLY IMPORTANT, BUT THIS MEMO DOES SOMETHING ELSE, SOMETHING THAT THE CANDIDATE HERSELF HAS BEEN RELUCTANT TO DO ON THE CAMPAIGN TRAIL WHICH IS GO AFTER HER OPPONENT. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT ROG REMEMBER POINTS
OUT IN THIS MEMO IS HE THINKS BERNIE SANDERS IN NEW HAMPSHIRE WON'T GET NEAR LIT AMOUNT OF SUPPORT THAT HE GOT IN 2016 PARTLY BECAUSE THE ELECTORATE HAS CHANGED AND THERE'S MORE CANDIDATES TO CHOOSE FROM AND HE ALSO ARGUES IN THIS MEMO THAT SANDERS' RECORD HASN'T BEEN SCRUTINIZED SUFFICIENTLY AND ON PETE BOURGET THEY GO AFTER HIS RECORD IN SOUTH BEND, FOR AFRICAN-AMERICAN VOTERS AND FOR BIDEN, THE SAME THING, SUB-WHO HAS BEEN MAKING A UNITY ARGUMENT BUT SHE HAS TO START
DIFFERENTIATING HERSELF. TOP LINE COMING OUT OF TONIGHT'S RATS IS THE ONE CAMPAIGN IS PUSHING PAST T.SAYING WEARY IN THIS FOR THE LONG HAM. >> NOWHERE IN THIS MEMOIR ARE THEY LAYING OUT THE MEMOIR. WE'RE GOING TO WIN HERE. >> I HAVE A HARD TIME TO BELIEVE YOU CAN WALK IN THE CONVENTION WITH A TON OF DELEGATES WITHOUT HAVING WON A STATE OUTRIGHT. >> THAT SEEMS LIKE A PRACTICAL POINT. >> I KNOW YOU SPOKE TO THE SENATOR TODAY BEFORE THE MEMO CAME OUT. THE
WHAT ARE THE EXPECTATIONS, AND WHAT DID SHE TELL YOU? >> I THINK SHE'S LAYING OUT THE STAKES FOR HERSELF. I'LL LET HER TELL YOU WHAT SHE TOLD ME WHILE SHE WAS VISITING SOME POLLING PLACES HERE IN NEW HAMPSHIRE EARLIER TODAY. >> HOW DO YOU THINK YOU'RE GOING TO DO HERE TODAY? DO YOU THINK YOU'LL PROVE THE POLLS WRONG. >> >> TO ME IT'S NEVER BEEN ABOUT POLLS. IT'S BEEN ABOUT PEOPLE AND PEOPLE WHO UNDERSTAND THAT THIS IS OUR MOMENT IN
HISTORY. IT'S OUR TIME TO COME FORWARD AND MAKE A DECISION, WHAT KIND OF COUNTRY ARE WE GOING TO BE IT. >> YOUR CAMPAIGN'S PLAN IS GETTING DOWN THE CALENDAR, NEVADA AND SOUTH CAROLINA AND DEFINITELY SUPER TUESDAY? ARE YOU IN THIS CAMPAIGN FOR SO LONG? >> WE BUILT A CAMPAIGN TO LAST AND WE'RE IN 30 STATES NOW. REMEMBER, WHEN I MADE THE DECISION AT THE BEGINNING NOT TO SPEND 80% OF MY TIME SUCKING UP TO BILLIONAIRES AND CORPORATE EXECUTIVES IT AND LOBBYISTS AND
INSTEAD MY CAMPAIGN THROUGH THE GROOTS IT GAVE ME MORE TIME TO DO TOWN HALLS AND I'VE DONE TOWN HALLS IN 29 STATES AND PUERTO RICO AND THAT'S HELPED UP OPEN OFFICES AND BRING IN VOLUNTEERS. >> HER WORDS SAYING THEY BUILT THIS CAMPAIGN TO LAST. I MENTIONED HOW FAR OUT IN THE CALENDAR THEY ARE BUILT OUT IN TERMS OF THEIR ORGANIZING STAFF, BUT HAVING 1,000 STAFFERS DOES HAVE A DOWNSIDE MEANS YOU'RE CARRYING A LOT OF OVERHEAD AND YOU HAVE TO PAY THOSE PEOPLE AND THE THING
ABOUT BEING IN THIRD OR POTENTIALLY LOWER IN NEW HAMPSHIRE IT'S HARDER TO BE IN THE MEDIA CYCLE AND HARDER TO BE CONTINUOUSLY GETTING THAT CHURN OF GRASS ROOTS SUPPORT WHICH POWERS ELIZABETH WARREN'S CAMPAIGN. THE NUMBER I'M REALLY LOOKING FOR OUT OF THIS IS NOT NECESSARILY EVEN IN THE POLLS FROM IOWA, NEW HAMPSHIRE AND NEVADA, IT'S WHAT THE S.E.C. FILES SAY AND WHETHER ELIZABETH WARREN HAS MONEY TO STAY IN THE COMPANY. >> ONE MORE QUESTION BEFORE I LET YOU
GO. YOU'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT HOW MASSACHUSETTS AND VERMONT ARE JUST BUYING NEW HAMPSHIRE. IS THERE ACTUALLY A HOME FIELD ADVANTAGE OR IS THAT JUST A TV TALKING POINT THAT WE KEEP BRINGING UP? >> WE'LL SEE. BRERNDS HAS MORE THAN JUST A HOME FIELD ADVANTAGE. HE'S GOT THE 2016 ADVANTAGE, THE DEFENDING CHAMP SO TO SPEAK ON THIS TERRITORY, BUT THAT BEING SAID, THIS IS NOT 2016. IT'S NOT A BIPRY RACE BETWEEN BERNIE SANDERS AND SOMEONE ELSE. HE HAS A LOT OF OTHER
COMPETITION HERE ON GROUND, AND AS FAR AS ELIZABETH WARREN'S NEIGHBORING STATUS, YES, IT'S A NAME THAT PEOPLE HAVE BEEN HEARING ON GROUND HERE FOR A WHILE. EACH AS I'VE BEEN TRAVELING THROUGH THE STATE THE LAST COUPLE OF DAYS AND WEEKS, PEOPLE SAY WHEN SHE TALKS ABOUT HER 2012 SENATE RACE AGAINST SCOTT BROWN THAT'S ONE THAT THEY REMEMBER FROM THE PAPERS AND IT BEING ON TV AT THE TIME. IT WAS A HOT RACE SHE WOULD. YES, BEATING AN INCUMBENT REPUBLICAN. THAT BEING SAID,
MOST REESE RENT SENATE RACE IN 2018 SHE DIDN'T RUN ANY TV ADS. SHE STOCKPILED ALL THAT MONEY AND EVENTUALLY MOVED IT FROM HER OLD CAMPAIGN ACCOUNT INTO HER OWN PRESIDENTIAL ACCOUNT GIVING HER A $10 MILLION BOOST TO START THIS RACE WITH. COULD HAVE BEEN SMART GAMESMANSHIP BUT SHE HASN'T BEEN A UBIQUITOUS PRESENCE IN NEW HAMPSHIRE. >> THANK YOU SO MUCH. >> THE FIRST EXIT POLL TO THE NEW HAMPSHIRE PRIMARIES ARE OUT AND STEVE KORNACKI JUST BROKE THEM DOWN WITH MY
COLLEAGUE CHUCK TODD. >> WE CAN GIVE YOU A SENSE OF WHAT THE EXIT POLL IS TELLING US THE COMPOSITION OF THIS ELECTORATE IN NEW HAMPSHIRE LOOKS LIKE, AND, AGAIN, KEEP IN MIND, WE SHOW YOU THIS AT THE 5:00 HOUR. IT'S THE FIRST WAVE. THEY ARE GOING TO ADD MORE SAMPLES TOLL THIS SO THESE NUMBERS CAN CHANGE AS THE NIGHT GOES ON. WITH THAT IN MIND, TAKE A LOOK, A COUPLE OF GROUPS. FIRST OF ALL, WHAT IS THE AGE BREAKDOWN? WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THE AGE DIFFERENCES IN THIS RACE IN
TERMS OF VOTERS HAVE MADE A DIFFERENCE AND TAKE A LOOK AT THIS. TWO GROUPS YOU CAN CALL YOUR EYES HERE, THE TWO SORT OF EXTREME END. THE 33% IN THIS EXIT POLL IN NEW HAMPSHIRE TODAY, ONE OUT OF THREE, 65 PLUS AND GO THE TO OTHER END THERE, 11% IN THE YOUNGEST CATEGORY. >> WOW. >> 18 TO. >> IS THAT LOW TO YOU? >> IT'S A SURPRISE FOR TWO REASONS, CHUCK. KEEP IN MIND WHAT WE SAW IN IOWA LAST WEEK. YOU SAW A QUARTER IN IOWA WERE IN THAT YOUNGEST CATEGORY AND
ONLY 27%, BUT I THINK THE BIGGER SURPRISE TO ME IS LET'S COMPARE THESE NUMBERS TO WHAT NEW HAMPSHIRE HAD IN 2016, LAST TIME, RIGHT. AMONG 18 TO 29-YEAR-OLDS IN 2016 THE NUMBER WAS 19%, AND AMONG 65 PLUS, THE NUMBER WAS 18% IN 2016, SO THIS IS A SIGNIFICANT CHANGE. QVC, REMEMBER, WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THIS CAMPAIGN AND SANDERS DOING WELL WITH THE SANDERS VOTERS AND THIS IS WHERE I CAUTION EVERYBODY THAT THERE WILL BE MORE SURVEYS ADDED TO THIS. THAT'S A MARKEDLY DIFFERENT
ELECTORATE IN TERMS OF AIMING THAT YOU HAD IN AGE AND EXTEND THAT TO IDEOLOGY AND WITH THE 18 TO 29-YEAR-OLDS YOU'RE GETTING SOMETHING VERY LESS LIBERAL THAN IN 2016, A CHANGE. THAT'S A CHANGE FROM IOWA WITH 25% VERY LIBERAL IN IOWA AND TONIGHT IN THIS EXIT POLL 21%. ONE OTHER THING THAT MIGHT BE A FACTOR HERE, REMEMBER, NEW HAMPSHIRE, IF YOU'RE AN INDEPENDENT IN NEW HAMPSHIRE, CAN YOU SHOW UP. CAN YOU SAY HEY I WANT A DEMOCRATIC BALLOT. I WANT A REPUBLICAN BALANCED BUDGET
AMENDMENT YOU CAN CHOOSE EITHER. SO TAKE A LOOK AT WHAT THEY ARE TELLING US ABOUT THE PARTY IDENTITY. 53% OF THIS ELECTORATE TODAY DEMOCRATIC VOTERS. 45% INDEPENDENT. THE WHAT WAS THAT IN 2016? 2% -- THAT NUMBER IN 2016 WAS 40 AND THIS NUMBER WAS 58, SO YOU HAD A MORE SORT OF CORE DEMOCRATIC ELECTORATE IN 2016 WHEN SANDERS WON BY THAT BIG MARGIN. YOU'VE GOT MORE FOLKS WHO ARE INDEPENDENT IN HAM MANY HAD A. MAYBE THEY VOTED IN THAT REPUBLICAN PRIMARY IN 2016 AND MAYBE THEY WOULD
NORMALLY VOTE IN A REPUBLICAN PRIMARY. YOU'VE GOT MORE INDEPENDENTS, YOU'VE GOT OLDER AND LESS VERY LIBERAL AND THAT'S THE FIRST THING WE'RE SEEING. >> MORE NEW HAMPSHIRE COVERAGE HERE ON "NBC NEWS NOW" AFTER THE BREAK. >> YOU'RE WATCHING "NBC NEWS NOW." >> WE'VE GOT SOME BREAKING NEWS. >> BROUGHT MORE TO THE CAUCUSES. >> IT'S NEWS MADE FOR YOUR STREAMING WORLD. >> LIVE, WEEKDAYS 3:00 TO 11:00 P.M.
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>> WE'RE GOING TO START WITH SOMETHING DIFFERENT TONIGHT. >> THIS IS ONE OF THOSE THINGS THAT YOU'VE NOT BEEN OTHERWISE HEARING ABOUT IN THE NEWS, BUT STICK WITH MOW. >> FEED YOUR MIND WITH FRESH PERSPECTIVE. GET YOUR FAVORITE MSNBC SHOWS NOW AT PODCAST. >> IF IT'S FINDING CLARITY IN THE CHAOS OR UNDERSTANDING HISTORY OF THE MOMENT? A VERY BIG DEAL TO GET BAGHDADI, A TRIBUTE TO U.S. INTELLIGENCE AND SPECIAL FORCES. >> IT'S HOLDING
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ORIGINAL. WOW. LISTEN TO "DATELINE" WHEREVER YOU GET YOUR PODCASTS. >> WE'VE GOT THE FUNDAMENTAL THING ABOUT HUMAN BEINGS AND WE'VE GOT THE WAY THAT WE CONSTITUTE OUR POLITICS AND THE DANGER IS THAT IF OUR POLITICS GROW TOO TRIBAL, THEN WE'LL LOSE THE SORT OF WAY OF TALKING. >> WHY IS THIS HAPPENING WITH CHRIS HAYES? SUBSCRIBE NOW. >>> SENATOR BERNIE SANDERS HAS MOVED INTO FIRST PLACE IN A NEW NATIONAL POLL MOUTH UNIVERSITY POLL OUT TODAY
PUTS SANDERS ON TOP WITH 26%, JOE BIDEN DROPS TO SECOND PLACE WITH 16% AND SENATOR ELIZABETH WARREN AND PETE BUTTIGIEG SHARING THIRD WITH THROWN% EACH AND NBC HAS MORE FROM MANCHESTER, NEW HAMPSHIRE AND SENATOR SANDERS IN THE LEAD N THAT NEW POLL. HOW IS HE FEELING -- YES, YOU'RE RIGHT. I DID TALK TO HIM TODAY. THE HE -- IT IS AN ELECTION DAY AND OVERALL HE FEELS ABOUT HOW HE'S COMING NO THIS ARE A. FIRST, POEM ARE HURT HIM AND HE'S ESSENTIALLY CAMPAIGNING HERE FOR FIVE
YEARS AND YOU LOOK AT THE POLLING. COMING INTO THIS THIS HAS AND HIS LOGUE EXCEEDS THE MAR GYP OF ERROR AND STILL IS IN A GOOD POSITION. ALL OF THAT HAVE PRESENTS A RISK FOR SENATOR SANDERS. I SAID IF HE DOESN'T WIN HERE, WHAT DOES THAT MEAN FOR REVOLUTION, SO TO SPEAK OR MOVEMENT THAT HE CALLS -- THE IDEA THAT HE CAN BRING OUT TURNOUT AND OWE ELECTABILITY AND EXCITEMENT TO THIS PRIMARY? LISTEN TO WHAT HE TOLD ME. >> I BELIEVE WE ARE THE STRONGEST CANDIDATE THAT CAN DEFEAT
TRUMP, AMEND THE REASON FOR THAT IS TO DEFEAT TRUMP, WHO IS GOING TO BE A VERY TOUGH OPPONENT. WE NEED THE LARGEST VOTER TURNOUT BY FAR IN THE HISTORY OF THE UNITED STATES. OUR CAMPAIGN IS THE CAMPAIGN AND THE ENERGY AND EXCITEMENT I BELIEVE. IT IS THE CAMPAIGN THAT COULD SPEAK TO DISENCHANT THE WORKING PEOPLE WHO HAVE KIND OF GIVEN UP ON VOTING PROCESS AND THE CAMPAIGN THAT CAN SPEAK TO LANG PEOPLE, BLACK, WHITE AND LATINO, NATIVE AMERICAN WHO HISTORICALLY HAVE NOT BEEN AS ACTIVE IN THE
POLITICAL PROCESS AS THEY SHOULD. WE ARE THE CAMPAIGN TO BRING OUT THAT VOTER TURNOUT AND CAMPAIGN TO DEFEAT TRUMP. >> SOMETHING WE WILL BE WATCHING TONIGHT IS THAT VOTER TURNOUT. IT WAS IN IOWA WHEN HE SAID THAT HISTORIC TURNOUT. IF HE GOT HISTORIC TURNOUT IN IOWA HE WOULD WIN. HE DID NOT GET TIS ORRIC TURNOUT AND DID WIN THE POPULAR VOTE AND LOST ON THE DELEGATE ALLEGATION AT LEAST FROM WHAT WE KNOW. HAVE TO ODD IN ALL THE CAVEATS IN. >> YOU SURE DO. >> BUT SOMETHING
WE WILL CONTINUE TO WATCH OTHER IN NEW HAMPSHIRE IS WHAT IS THE VOTER TURNOUT? IS HE STILL BRINGING IN YOUNG PEOPLE AND ARE THEY STILL SHOWING UP AND IS THAT MOVEMENT, THAT EXCITEMENT THAT HE SAYS HE CAN BRING, WILL THAT BE REFLECTED TONIGHT AS WE WATCH THE RESULTS? ALISON? >> I KNOW YOU TALKED TO BERNIE ABOUT PETE BUTTIGIEG WHO HAVE BECOME REAL RIVALS SINCE COMING OUT OF IOWA LAST WEEK NECK AND NECK. WHAT DID YOU ASK HIM ABOUT? >> RIGHT AFTER IOWA, THEY ESSENTIALLY CAME
OUT OF IOWA WITH A TIE AND YOU SAW SENATOR SANDERS SHIFT HIS ATTENTION FROM JOE BIDEN AND SHIFT IT TOWARDS MAYOR PETE BUTTIGIEG, AND THING IS YOU SEE WHY. YOU SAW A SENSE OF WHY BASED ON THE POLLING. IN THE AVERAGE OF POLLS, SANDERS HAD THAT LEAD COMING INTO NEW HAMPSHIRE BUT THE RIVAL RIGHT BEHIND HIM WAS PETE BUYING AND THE ARGUMENT SENATOR SANDERS WAS MAKING IS MAYOR PETE HAS BEEN GETTING DONATIONS FROM BILLION AIRS AND DONATIONS -- READ HEADLINES AT ONE EVENT, MAYOR PETE IS THE
FAVORITE BILLION AIRS OR HAS GOTTEN DONATIONS FROM 40 DIFFERENT BILLIONAIRES SO HE'S MAKING THAT POINT AND MAKING THAT ARGUMENT. IN THAT RESPONSE MAYOR PETE HAS BEEN SAYING, HEY, DOESN'T MATTER IF I'M GETTING MONEY FROM IT AND ALSO MAKING THE COUNTER ARGUMENT TO BERNIE SANDERS WHO FORCES PEOPLE BETWEEN MAINTAINING THE STATUS QUO AND HAVING A FULL-BLOWN REVOLUTION. I ASKED SENATOR SANDERS WHETHER OR NOT HE WAS WRONG ABOUT THAT AND LISTEN TO THAT RESPONSE. >> I'M
VERY PROUD OF MY RECORD OF ACCOMPLISHMENTS AS A RESULT OF SOME OF THE WORK THAT OUR CAMPAIGN HAS DONE. WE'VE SEEN THE MINIMUM WAGE GOING UP TO 15 BUCKS AN HOUR ALL ACROSS THIS COUNTRY. WE OVER PUMPED BILLIONS AND BILLIONS IN THIS COUNTRY AND I HELPED ALONG WITH JOHN MKAUGHAN TO WRITE ONE OF THE MOST SIGNIFICANT PIECES OF VETERANS LEGISLATION IN MODERN DAY HISTORY OF THIS COUNTRY. AND I THINK THE AGENDA THAT WE ARE BRINGING FORTH. THIS IS NOT -- I GET TIRED OF PEOPLE TELLING ME
IT'S A RADICAL AGENDA. IT IS NOT A RADICAL AGENDA. EVERY OTHER MAJOR COUNTRY ON EARTH HAS HEALTH CARE. YOU'RE 100, 200 MILES AWAY FROM THE CANADIAN POWERED. SOMEHOW OR ANOTHER THEY MANAGE TO PROVIDE QUALITY CARE TO ALL OF THEIR PEOPLE FOR HALF THE COST THAT WE DO, NOT RADICAL. >> AND THAT LAST POINT THAT YOU HEAR THERE WAS PART OF HIS CLOSING MESSAGE HERE IN NEW HAMPSHIRE H.BECAUSE HE WON HERE. HE OPENED A LOT OF STATEMENTS AND A LOT OF SPEECHES AND TOWN HALLS AND EVENTS
HERE IN NEW HAMPSHIRE BY SAYING I WANT TO THANK THE PEOPLE OF NEW HAMPSHIRE FOR THE VICTORY YOU GOT ME IN 2016 AND GAVE HIM MOMENTUM BACK THEN. IT WAS A 22-POINT VICTORY AND THE IDEAS THAT I TALKED ABOUT BACK THEN, IDEAS LIKE MEDICARE FOR ALL. LIKE A $15 MINIMUM WAGE, IDEAS LIKE INVESTING IN CLIMATE CHANGE AND CLEAN RENEWABLE ENERGY. IT HE'S NOW SAYING THAT'S ARE ADOPTED BY A MAJORITY OF THE DEMOCRATIC PEOPLE TODAY. HE'S SAYING -- YOU'VE NOT MOVING BUT HE'S
BRINGING THINGS CLOSER TOGETHER. THE SECOND THEY HAVE THE RESULTS TONIGHT DOES THE SANDERS CAMPAIGN HEAD OUT OF TOWN? >> TALLEY WE GOING TO SEE YOU IN THE CONTEXT OF IMPEACHMENT, BUT HE WILL BE BACK IN WASHINGTON, D.C. BECAUSE OF THE WAR POWERS RESOLUTION HE'S BEEN PICK. THIS IS A BIG PART OF SENATOR SANDERS' PLATFORM. THE FOREIGN POLICY ELEMENT IS SUCH A STLAL PART OF IT, THE NON-INKRONKSAL ELF -- HE'LL IF BACK TO WASSY AND VOTE TO OWECEPTIONLY LIMIT PRESIDENT
TRUMP'S ABILITY TO START MILITARY ACTION WITH IRAN. IT'S STILL UNCLEAR ON WHERE THAT WILL LAND AND WHAT KIND OF SUPPORT THAT CAN PICK UP FROM THE SIDE OF THE AISLE AND IN THE DEMOCRATIC MINORITY IN THE SENATE THERE ARE MANY TIMES WHEN THEY ARE NOT ABLE TO GET VOTES ON THEIR SIGNATURE OR KEY PRIORITIES, BUT THIS IS AN EXAMPLE BECAUSE OF THE WAR POWERS ACT WHERE THEY ARE GOING TO BE ABLE TO HAVE THEIR SAY. THEY WILL BE ABLE TO PASS A RESOLUTION. WE'VE SEEN THIS DONE BEFORE
DEALING WITH YEMEN, AND THEY WILL DO THIS WITH IRAN AT THIS POINT. IT GOES INTO THAT IDEA THAT PRESIDENT TRUMP PRESIDENT TRUMP CAN STILL VETO THIS RESOLUTION. IT'S HIM MAKING HIS MARKER. LATER THIS WEEK HE WILL BE GOING FROM WASHINGTON, D.C. TO NORTH CAROLINA AND TO TEXAS. YOU MAY BE WONDERING WHY. THOSE ARE NOT THE TWO NEXT STATES UP ON THE CALENDAR. IT GOES TOWARDS SUPER TUESDAY. HIS CAMPAIGN IS SENDING THE MESSAGE THEY ARE LOOKING BEYOND THE CALENDAR. IN NEVADA THERE IS A DEBATE
NEXT WEEK. WE WILL EVENTUALLY MAKE IT THERE. THEN SOUTH CAROLINA. VICE PRESIDENT BIDEN HAS A STRONG LEAD RIGHT NOW. THAT'S WHERE THE VICE PRESIDENT WILL BE HEADING TONIGHT. HE WON'T BE STAYING HERE FOR THE RESULTS IN NEW HAMPSHIRE TO COME IN. THE SANDERS CAMPAIGN IS SAYING THEY'VE INVESTED THEIR RESOURCES, $5.5 MILLION IN TELEVISION ADS. NOW THEY ARE GOING TO START INVESTING THE CANDIDATES' TIME BEING GOING TO THESE PLACES AND HAVE HIM START MAKING THOSE STOPS EVEN
THOUGH THOSE CONTESTS ARE A COUPLE OF WEEKS AWAY. >> THANK YOU FOR THE UPDATE ON THE SANDERS CAMPAIGN AND REMINDER THAT SEVERAL OF THESE CANDIDATES ARE NOT JUST CAMPAIGNING FOR A LIVING. THEY HAVE DAY JOBS THAT THEY HAVE TO GET BACK TO. SENATOR SANDERS HAVING TO GO BACK TO WASHINGTON, D.C. THANK YOU SO MUCH. >> ALL RIGHT. SEE YOU. >>> NEW HAMPSHIRE VOTERS ARE AT THE POLLS RIGHT NOW. WHO WILL BE THE WINNER TONIGHT? LET'S BRING IN NBC NEWS SENIOR POLITICAL
ANALYST JONATHAN ALLEN. WE HAVE GOT TO START WITH SOMETHING YOU DID ON TWITTER ABOUT AN HOUR AGO. YOU MADE AN UNSCIENTIFIC PREDICTION, YOU SAY AMY KLOBUCHAR WINS TONIGHT. WHY? >> WAIT, I'M NOT SURE THAT I -- ALISON, I DIDN'T MEAN TO SAY THAT. I DIDN'T MEAN TO PUT IT THAT WAY. WHAT I WAS SAYING I THOUGHT AMY KLOBUCHAR MIGHT DO WELL, A LITTLE BETTER THAN EXPECTED TO DO. WHAT I WAS SAYING BASED ON GARRETT HAAKE'S TWEET THERE, ONE EVER OF OUR COLLEAGUES -- HE WAS IN
A MANCHESTER POLLING STATION. I SPOKE TO TEN VOTERS WHO SAID THEY VOTED FOR HILLARY CLINTON. THERE WAS A REPUBLICAN PRIMARY, A DEMOCRATIC PRIMARY. TEN IN A ROW SAID CLINTON. I REMEMBER CALLING TO A FRIEND OF MINE WHO DID GOOD DATA WORK. I SAID I SHOULDN'T RELY ON THIS ANECDOTAL ADVICE, SHOULD I? SO THAT WAS MY MEMORY. I GET A SENSE IN TALKING TO VOTERS A LOT OF THEM WROTE KLOBUCHAR AT THE END. >> SO ARE YOU -- >> I DON'T THINK SHE IS LIKELY TO WIN. >> ARE YOU
SEEING STRONG SIMILARITIES THAT SHE DOES WELL TONIGHT? >> I DO THINK SHE IS LIKELY TO DO WELL. THE REAL THING TO WATCH HERE, ALISON, IS WHETHER THERE IS ENOUGH ENERGY BEHIND HER CAMPAIGN THAT IT DRAGS DOWN PETE BUTTIGIEG. YOU KNOW, HE WAS RUNNING CLOSE TO BERNIE SANDERS COMING OUT OF IOWA IN TERMS OF THE NEW HAMPSHIRE VOTE, AND THERE ARE A LOT OF VOTERS WHO ARE SPLIT BETWEEN BUTTIGIEG AND KLOBUCHAR. IF THEY SPLIT THOSE VOTERS, THEY DON'T GO EITHER TO BUTTIGIEG OR TO
KLOBUCHAR, THAT'S HELPFUL TO BERNIE SANDERS. >> ALL RIGHT. SO BEING VERY CLEAR TONIGHT, JOHN. I DID NOT MEAN TO MISCHARACTERIZE YOU. JOHN NOT PREDICTING A KLOBUCHAR WIN. YOU SAID SOMETHING INTERESTING ABOUT HER ON MSNBC.COM. YOU SAID THE CANDIDATES ARE MAKING THE ARGUMENT THEY CAN UNIFY THEIR PARTY, BUT YOU SAY KLOBUCHAR HAS THE MOST COMPELLING STORY ABOUT UNIFYING THE COUNTRY AND SHE ISN'T EVEN USING IT. WHAT IS THAT STORYLINE SHE IS NOT TAPPING INTO? >> I DID
SAY THAT. >> WE GOT ONE RIGHT THERE. >> TOTALLY GOT IT. YOU KNOW WHAT? YOU WERE RIGHT. YOU WERE TOTALLY RIGHT IN SENTIMENT ABOUT THE FIRST ONE. I DO THINK THERE IS A LOT OF MOMENTUM BEHIND AMY KLOBUCHAR HERE. BUT THE THING THAT SHE DIDN'T -- THAT SHE HASN'T REALLY ROLLED OUT HERE SHE HAS A DEMOCRATIC PARTY IN MINNESOTA THAT'S CALLED THE DEMOCRATIC FARMER LABOUR PARTY AND IT IS PROBABLY AS DIVERSE A PARTY IN TERMS OF TYPES OF DEMOCRATS THAT YOU HAVE AS ANY PARTY
IN THE COUNTRY. WHEN ALL THESE DEMOCRATS ARE RUNNING FOR PRESIDENT OR TRYING TO SAY THEY CAN UNIFY THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY, SHE GETS NOMINATED BY THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY THAT HAS FARMERS WHO LIVE ALONG THE BORDER WITH THE DAKOTAS THAT HAS A BIG UNION PRESIDENT ALONG LAKE SUPERIOR AND DULUTH THAT HAS A DIVERSE POPULATION IN TERMS OF ETHNICITY, IN TERMS OF RACE, IN TERMS OF THE INCOME IN THE TWIN CITIES AREA, IN THE CITIES OF MINNEAPOLIS AND ST. PAUL AND THE SURROUNDING SUBURBS THERE. THE
MINNESOTA DEMOCRATIC PARTY IS REALLY, REALLY DIVERSE. YOU CAN LOOK AT IT IN THE CONGRESSIONAL DELEGATION. COLIN PETERSON SON WAS ONE OF THE DEMOCRATS WHO VOTED AGAINST IMPEACHMENT. SO KLOBUCHAR KNOWS A LITTLE SOMETHING ABOUT BALANCING A VERY BROAD DEMOCRATIC PARTY IN HER OWN STATE. I EXPECT THAT'S SOMETHING WE WILL SEE GOING FORWARD. >> LET ME ASK YOU ABOUT JOE BIDEN. HIS CAMPAIGN IS GETTING FLAK FOR HEADING TO SOUTH CAROLINA TONIGHT BEFORE GETTING THE NEW HAMPSHIRE RESULTS.
I'D LIKE TO PLAY A CLIP OF BIDEN EARLIER. >> GOT A LOT OF GOOD FRIENDS IN NEW HAMPSHIRE, BUT THIS -- SO YOU GOT SIGNIFICANT PORTIONS THAT HAVEN'T VOTED YET. I AM GOING TO HEAD TO SOUTH CAROLINA TONIGHT AND THEN GOING TO GO TO NEVADA. WE GOT TO LOOK AT THEM ALL. I'M FEELING GOOD ABOUT THAT. WE HAVE A LOT OF GREAT FRIENDS HERE. WE'RE STILL MILDLY HOPEFUL HERE IN NEW HAMPSHIRE AND WE'LL SEE WHAT HAPPENS. >> MILDLY HOPEFUL IN NEW HAMPSHIRE BUT HEADING IT
SOUTH CAROLINA. WHAT DO YOU MAKE OF THAT MOVE, JOHN? >> I THINK BIDEN HAS BEEN TRYING TO CONVINCE BOTH VOTERS AND DEMOCRATIC DONORS, PARTY INSIDERS THAT THEY SHOULD WAIT TO PRONOUNCE HIS CAMPAIGN OVER UNTIL HE HAS A CHANCE TO GET THROUGH ALL FOUR OF THE EARLY STATES, SOUTH CAROLINA IS A BIG ONE WHERE HE WANTS TO HAVE REVIVAL AND HE BELIEVES THAT -- SO HE WANTS TO SIGNAL THROUGH NEW HAMPSHIRE HE IS GOING TO PLAY IT OUT IN NEVADA AND SOUTH CAROLINA, BUT YOU'VE GOT TO
WONDER ABOUT THE RISKS THAT TAKING. I MEAN, HE OBVIOUSLY HAS TO GET THROUGH THE NEXT COUPLE OF STATES, BUT THERE IS OBVIOUSLY A RISK. NEW HAMPSHIRE IS A HUGE SWING STATE. IT DOESN'T HAVE A LOT OF LECTERS, BUT IT'S A CLOSELY CONTESTED STATE IN GENERAL ELECTIONS. NOW YOU HAVE A FORMER VICE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES TAKING OFF OUT OF NEW HAMPSHIRE BEFORE THE RESULTS ARE HERE IN A PRIMARY. YOU COULD CERTAINLY SEE IF JOE BIDEN WERE TO COME OUT WITH THE DEMOCRATIC NOMINATION A
PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP WRAPPING THAT AROUND HIM IF THEY WERE CAMPAIGNING AGAINST EACH OTHER. VICE PRESIDENT BIDEN WASN'T WILLING TO STICK AROUND FOR THE RESULTS IN THE PRIMARY. >> JOHN, TWO-THIRDS SAY THEY THINK TRUMP WILL BE RE-ELECTED. DOES THAT STAT SURPRISE YOU? >> IT DOESN'T. RIGHT NOW YOU ARE SEEING THE BEST RUN THAT DONALD TRUMP HAS HAD IN HIS TERM IN OFFICE. YOU SAW HIM ACQUITTED BY THE SENATE. HE HAD A STATE OF THE UNION MESSAGE THAT I THINK WAS PROBABLY
HIS BEST AS PRESIDENT IN TERMS OF TRYING TO REACH OUT TO A BROADER COALITION OF VOTERS. AND YOU HAVE A DEMOCRATIC PARTY THAT HAD A DEBACLE IN IOWA. YOU KNOW, THE CAUCUS RESULTS SORT OF WERE ANNOUNCED FIVE, SIX TIMES THE LAST FEW WEEKS AND IT'S NOT OFFICIALLY DECLARED BY SOME VERY REPUTABLE NEWS NETWORKS. THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY IS STRUGGLING. THEY HAVE NOT DECIDED WHICH DEMOCRATIC PARTY THEY WANT TO BE. DOES IT WANT TO BE LEFT, DOES IT WANT TO BE CENTER? IT HAS A SERIES OF CANDIDATES
THAT DOESN'T HAVE 25% OR 30% IN ANY STATE. THIS IS A MOMENT OF GREATEST STRENGTH FOR DONALD TRUMP AND THAT'S WHY I THINK VOTERS ARE SAYING THAT THEY SEE HIM BEING RE-ELECTED. YOU KNOW, IT'S FEBRUARY OF THE ELECTION YEAR. IT'S NOT NOVEMBER OF THE ELECTION YEAR. WE WILL HAVE TO SEE WHAT HAPPENS. >> JOHN ALLEN, NOT PREDICTING A KLOBUCHAR WIN TONIGHT, BUT I PROMISE IF YOU TALK TO US TOMORROW AND SHE DOES WIN, WE WILL LET YOU SAY THAT YOU CALLED IT, ALL RIGHT?
>> I WAS GOING TO SAY LET'S EDIT THE TAPE IF NECESSARY. >> WE WILL DO THAT. THANK YOU SO MUCH. GREAT TO HAVE YOU ON THE SHOW. >> THANKS, ALISON. >> SENATOR AMY KLOBUCHAR HEADING INTO THE PRIMARY TODAY WITH WHAT HER CAMPAIGN IS CALLING CLOEB KLOBOMENTUM. >> WIN OR LOSE, I'M HERE TONIGHT. WE'RE EXCITED. WE GOT A GREAT TEAM PLANNING A BIG PARTY. >> JOINING US TO TALK ABOUT THE KLOBUCHAR CAMPAIGN GARRETT HAAKE IN MANCHESTER, NEW HAMPSHIRE. YOU
TWEETED EARLIER TODAY TOTALLY UNSCIENTIFIC, BUT THE LAST FOUR VOTERS I INTERVIEWED AT THIS POLLING PLACE IN MANCHESTER SAID THEY ARE VOTING FOR AMY KLOBUCHAR, SAID THEY DECIDED SINCE FRIDAY, INCLUDING ONE THIS MORNING, ALL SAID THE DEBATE SEALED IT. WOULD YOU GIVE US MORE UNSCIENTIFIC KNOWLEDGE YOU PICKED UP? WHAT ARE THEY SAYING ABOUT KLOBUCHAR. >> I THINK THAT'S SIX OR SEVEN VOTERS. KLOBUCHAR'S CAMPAIGN HAS BEEN PLANNING FOR DAYS THAT THEY ARE EXPERIENCING
SIGNIFICANT MOMENTUM COMING OUT OF THE DEBATE. I SAW THAT MANCHESTER ANECDOTALLY WITH A NUMBER OF VOTERS SAYING THEY ARE DECIDING LATE IN THE GAME, SOMETIMES IN THE BOOTH ITSELF, TO PULL THE LEVER FOR AMY KLOBUCHAR. IT'S INTERESTING TO SEE WHO WAS ON THE LIST. FOLKS TOLD ME THEY WERE TRYING TO DECIDE BETWEEN HER AND PETE BUTTIGIEG. SOME FOLKS PUT HER IN THE SAME GROUP WITH ELIZABETH WARREN OR WITH JOE BIDEN. JOE BIDEN'S POLLING OUT OF THE STATE. IT'S TOUGH TO SAY HOW
THAT MIGHT HAVE EFFECTED. A LOT OF THE VOTERS WANT SOMEONE WHO CAN TAKE ON DONALD TRUMP AND THEY LIKED WHAT THEY HEARD FROM KLOBUCHAR IN THAT DEBATE. NOW AGAIN I AM NOT IN THE PREDICTION MAKING BUSINESS, BUT A STRONG CLOSE IS REALLY THE BEST THING YOU CAN HOPE FOR WHEN YOU ARE LESS WELL KNOWN IN THE STATE, HAS NOT RUN FOR PRESIDENT BEFORE, DON'T HAVE THE RESOURCES OF THE OTHERS. SHE IS STILL COMPETING AGAINST SOME PRETTY MONMOUTH CAMPAIGN ORGANIZATIONS. I MET A LOT OF BERNIE SANDERS
VOTERS, AND A LOT OF SUPPORTERS OF JOE BIDEN, OF ELIZABETH WARREN, OF MAYOR PETE. SOME SUPPORTERS STANDING BEHIND ME HAVING BEEN HERE ALL DAY LONG. >> GARRETT HAAKE, THANKS SO MUCH FOR MAKING THE TIME FOR US TONIGHT. >> YOU BET. >> OUR NEW HAMPSHIRE COVERAGE CONTINUES HERE ON NBC NOW NOW RIGHT AFTER THIS BREAK. >>> HEADING BACK TO MANCHESTER, NEW HAMPSHIRE, WHERE VOTING IS WINDING DOWN. SAVANNAH STELLERS IS ON THE GROUND THERE. SAVANNAH, AWESOME TO SEE YOU.
WHAT ARE YOU HEARING FROM VOTERS THERE IN MANCHESTER? >> HEY, ALISON. SO JUST TO BE TOTALLY HONEST WITH YOU, I AM DOWN THE WAY FROM GARRETT WHO YOU JUST HEARD FROM. DEFINITELY A SIMILAR VIBE. FIRST OF ALL, WE HAVE BEEN TALKING TO QUITE A FEW PEOPLE ABOUT MANY KLOBUCHAR VOTERS HE HEARD FROM THAT SO JUST SORT OF DECIDED, JUST MAKING THAT DECISION NOW. TAKE A LISTEN TO SOME OF THE PEOPLE WHO HADN'T TOTALLY MADE UP THEIR MIND UNTIL TODAY. >> I KNEW IT WAS GOING TO BE BERNIE.
HE IS THE MOST HONEST CANDIDATE. HE STUCK WITH THE SAME MESSAGE FOR DECADES. YOU KNOW, THAT RESONATES WITH ME. >> ANYBODY BUT TRUMP. >> AMY. AMY KLOBUCHAR. I LIKE HER FROM THE BEGINNING. I DIDN'T KNOW HOW MUCH SHE WOULD -- HOW MUCH SUPPORT SHE WOULD HAVE. BUT THEN I SAID I DON'T CARE, I AM GOING SO SUPPORT HER. >> Reporter: SO THAT WOMAN THERE, MAUREEN, TOLD ME SHE ACTUALLY MADE THE DECISION WHILE SHE WAS INSIDE THIS BUILDING WHERE SHE VOTED. WE ARE IN
MANCHESTER, WARD 1. THIS IS ONE OF 12 WARDS IN THE LARGEST CITY IN THE STATE. THIS IS WHERE EVERY SINGLE CAMPAIGN HAS AN OFFICE IN THE CITY. MANY CAME BY HERE TODAY. I WANT TO INTRODUCE YOU TO SOME PEOPLE. IF YOU WATCHED THE "TODAY" SHOW, YOU WOULD HAVE SEEN THEM. THESE PEOPLE, SOME OF THEM, MY FRIEND HAS BEEN HERE SINCE 5:45 THIS MORNING. I MENTIONED MANY CAMPAIGNS HAVE OFFICES HERE. YOU ACTUALLY GOT TO MEET THE CANDIDATE THAT YOU ARE VOLUNTEERING FOR, IS THAT CORRECT?
>> YES, HE THANKED US FOR BEING HERE AT 6:00 A.M. THIS MORNING. >> Reporter: HOW WAS IT TO BE SPEAKING WITH HIM AFTER YOU HAVE BEEN VOLUNTEERING FOR HIM? >> IT WAS AMAZING. I HAVE MET HIM ONCE OR TWICE BEFORE. BUT TODAY OVERWHELMED ME AND I STARTED TO BAWL MY EYES OUT. AWESOME EXPERIENCE. >> Reporter: I HAVE TO SAY ALSO I LOVE YOU GUYS, ALL DIFFERENT CAMPAIGNS KIND OF HERE TOGETHER. ZACK, THIS IS SOMEBODY I WANT TO INTRODUCE YOU TO, ZACK, A NICE COMMENT ABOUT
WHAT'S GOING ON HERE. >> WE HAVE HAD A LOT OF CAMPAIGNS HERE. YOU CAN SEE BUTTIGIEG AND WARREN AND BIDEN AND PATRICK, BILL WELD. YOU KNOW, A LOT OF CAMARADERIE BETWEEN US. WE'D LIKE TO THANK YOU GUYS IN THE PRESS. I WAS IN THE BACKGROUND OF KATY TUR'S PROGRAM THIS AFTERNOON. SHE HAS TAKEN MORE ABUSE THAN ANYBODY SHOULD HAVE FROM THE CURRENT OCCUPANTS OF THE WHITE HOUSE. WE WOULD LIKE TO SAY TO OUR FRIENDS IN THE PRESS, YOU ARE AN ESSENTIAL PART OF OUR REPUBLIC AND
GOD BLESS YOU ALL. >> Reporter: GUYS, I DID NOT KNOW THAT ZACK WAS GOING TO SAY THAT. I THOUGHT HE WAS GOING TO SAY THEY HAVE BEEN VERY NICE TO EACH OTHER. >> OUR FAVORITE FAN OF THE NIGHT. >> Reporter: YEAH, WE JUST HEARD THAT'S OUR FAVORITE FROM THE NIGHT. ALISON. ANYWAY, A LOT OF UNDECIDED VOTERS OUT HERE. A LOT OF PEOPLE HAVE BEEN VOLUNTEERING, STANDING OUT HERE, SUPPORTING THEIR CANDIDATE OF CHOICE FOR OVER 12 HOURS NOW. >> SUPPORTING THEIR CANDIDATE,
SUPPORTING THE PRESS. WE VERY MUCH APPRECIATE IT. TODAY YOU WERE IN A DIFFERENT PART OF NEW HAMPSHIRE. WHAT DID YOU SEE THERE? IS IT DIFFERENT FROM WHAT YOU ARE SEEING IN NEW HAMPSHIRE RIGHT NOW? >> Reporter: YES, I WAS IN LACONIA, A BELLWETHER TOWN THAT VOTED THE SAME WAY THAT THE WHOLE STATE GOES SINCE 2000. AND WHAT WE ACTUALLY SAW THERE WAS IT IS A REPUBLICAN TOWN. THERE WERE MANY MORE REGISTERED REPUBLICANS AT THE START OF THE DAY BECAUSE HERE IN NEW HAMPSHIRE YOU CAN STILL
RE STER TO VOTE AS YOU ARRIVE AT THE PRIMARIES. WHAT WAS INTERESTING THERE IS THERE WERE ALSO A TON OF UNDECIDES. THERE WERE 42 MORE REGISTERED REPUBLICANS THAN UNDECLAREDS. SO YOU COME INTO THE PRIMARY PROCESS HERE IF YOU ARE UNDECLARED, TELL THEM I WOULD LIKE TO DECLARE REPUBLICAN OR DEMOCRAT. WHAT'S ALSO INTERESTING IN NEW HAMPSHIRE BEFORE YOU WALK OUT THE DOOR YOU CAN GO BACK TO BEING UNDECLARED IF YOU SO CHOOSE. PEOPLE SAYING THEY ARE NOT NECESSARILY COMMIT TODAY
WHICHEVER PARTY THEY ARE VOTING FOR NOW. A BUNCH OF PEOPLE AGAIN WERE NOT SURE WHAT THEY WERE GONNA DO. I SAW A COUPLE WHO HAD BALLOTS IN HAND TOGETHER AND WERE STANDING OUTSIDE THE BOOTH, WHAT ARE WE GONNA DO? >> THANK YOU TO YOU AND THANK YOU TO THE VOTERS. THEY ARE WHAT MAKES THE DEMOCRATIC PROCESS SO FUN. THEY BRING THE FUN. THANKS TO THE NEW HAMPSHIRE VOTERS AS WELL. >> Reporter: THANKS. >>> WHEN ALL IS SAID AND DONE TONIGHT WILL WE HAVE A CLEARER PICTURE OF
WHO THE DEMOCRATIC PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE MAY BE? FORMER CLINTON 2016 COMMUNICATIONS DIRECTOR AND MSNBC CONTRIBUTOR, ADRIAN, GREAT TO HAVE YOU HERE. SANDERS AND BUTTIGIEG LEFT IOWA NECK-AND-NECK. BIDEN'S HEADING TO SOUTH CAROLINA TODAY. WARREN IS SAYING IT'S NOT ABOUT THE POLLS. WHAT DO YOU MAKE OF WHERE THE DEMOCRATIC CANDIDATES ARE? >> IT'S CHAOTIC. EXACTLY WHAT YOU SAID IS EXACTLY WHY NEW HAMPSHIRE IS SO IMPORTANT FOR THE DEMOCRATIC PRIMARY PROCESS. IT'S GOING
TO GIVE US A LOT OF INSIGHT INTO WHO HAS THE MOMENTUM AND WHO IS PLAYING WELL WITH CERTAIN AUDIENCES. WE KNOW FROM SOME OF THE EXHIBIT POLLS EARLIER THAT -- EXIT POLLS EARLIER, YOUTH WERE A LITTLE LESS THAN EXPECTED. THAT COULD IMPACT BERNIE SANDERS. THERE IS A LOT OF INFORMATION WE WILL FIND OUT TONIGHT. ELIZABETH WARREN I THINK COULD BE ONE OF THE, YOU KNOW, BIGGEST, YOU KNOW, DOWN FALLS TONIGHT IF SHE DOESN'T PLACE IN THE TOP TWO OR THREE BECAUSE SHE IS FROM A NEIGHBORING STATE.
WE KNOW FROM HISTORY THE NEW HAMPSHIRE VOTERS LIKE PEOPLE FROM NEIGHBORING STATES. IT DOES SEEM LIKE BERNIE SANDERS HAS THE MOMENTUM EVEN IF THAT YOUTH VOTE IS A LITTLE BIT LOWER THAN EXPECTED AND MAYOR PETE IS DOING WELL, TOO. AMY KLOBUCHAR, LOOKING TO SEE HOW SHE DOES TONIGHT. MINNESOTA NOT NEAR NEW HAMPSHIRE LIKE AMY KLOBUCHAR, THE TOP TWO OR THREE TONIGHT, THAT'S SIGNIFICANT FOR HER AND THAT'S MOMENTUM THAT SHE CAN TAKE INTO NEVADA AND SOUTH CAROLINA. >> IS THERE ONE
PERSON IN PARTICULAR, ONE CANDIDATE YOU THINK IS IN THE BEST POSITION IN NEW HAMPSHIRE RIGHT NOW? >> I THINK IT'S PROBABLY A TOSS-UP BETWEEN PETE BUTTIGIEG AND AMY KLOBUCHAR. IT REALLY DEPENDS WHAT HAPPENS TONIGHT. BUT AGAIN GOING BACK TO THE FACT THAT AMY KLOBUCHAR IS NOT FROM A STATE NEAR NEW HAMPSHIRE, IF SHE DOES WELL, GETS IN THE TOP TWO OR THREE, I WOULD SAY THAT SHE IS IN THE BEST POSITION COMING OUT OF THE STATE BECAUSE IT'S ALL ABOUT HOW YOU MESSAGE IT. AND LOOK,
AGAIN, BERNIE SANDERS, A WIN IS A WIN. HE AND MAYOR PETER TIED FOR FIRST PLACE IN IOWA. IF HE WINS HERE, HE IS BASICALLY SUPER ACROSS THE BOARD AND HE IS EXPECTED TO DO VERY WELL IN NEVADA, HE DOES WELL IN CAUCUS STATES. NEVADA HAS A LOT OF YOUNG VOTERS WHICH TEND TO FAVOR BERNIE SANDERS OVER ANYBODY ELSE. SO THAT ALSO GIVES HIM GOOD MOMENTUM. >> IS TONIGHT AN ABSOLUTE MUST WIN FOR ANYONE? IS THERE ANYONE IN PARTICULAR YOU ARE CONCERNED ABOUT IF THEY SHOW POORLY TONIGHT? >>
I THINK IT'S LESS ABOUT A MUST WIN FOR SOMEBODY. I THINK IT'S MORE ABOUT WHO FINISHES AT FOURTH OR FIFTH PLACE. I THINK IT'S NOT GOOD FOR BIDEN IF HE IS IN FIFTH PLACE TONIGHT. >> LET ME ASK YOU, ON THE FLIP SIDE, ABOUT THE REPUBLICANS. NBC SENIOR WHITE HOUSE REPORT SHANNON PETTIT SAID ONE CLEAR WINNER HAS EMERGED AND THAT'S DONALD TRUMP AND THE PRESIDENT SEEMS TO THINK THE BEST OUTCOME FOR HIM IS IF THIS DEMOCRATIC CONTINUED TO THE PARTY'S CONVENTION AND
THEY WOULD LIKE TO MAKE SURE THAT HAPPENS. FIRST, DO YOU AGREE THAT THE LACK OF A CLEAR FRONTRUNNER SO FAR IS BENEFITING PRESIDENT TRUMP'S RE-ELECTION CAMPAIGN? >> NO, I THINK IT'S GREAT BECAUSE HERE'S WHAT'S HAPPENING. YOU ARE SEEING DEMOCRATIC CANDIDATES BECOME THAT MUCH BETTER. A GOOD CONTEST IN THE DEMOCRATIC PRIMARY ONLY MAKES SURE THAT THE PERSON WHO ULTIMATELY BECOMES THE NOMINEE IS THAT MUCH BETTER. I MEAN, HILLARY CLINTON, GO BACK TO 2008 AND YOU LOOK AT
THE CONTESTED RACE BETWEEN HILLARY CLINTON AND BARACK OBAMA, HILLARY CLINTON BECAME AN EVEN BETTER DEBATER AS THE PROCESS WORE ON. WHEN BARACK OBAMA BECAME THE NOMINEE HE MADE IT CLEAR BECAUSE HE HAD A CLOSELY CONTESTED RACE WITH HILLARY CLINTON IT MADE HIM THAT MUCH BETTER AS A CANDIDATE GOING INTO THE GENERAL ELECTION. I THINK THIS IS A GOOD CONTEST FOR US. I WANT TO MAKE CLEAR I DON'T THINK THIS NEEDS TO GO ALL THE WAY TO THE CONVENTION. I DON'T THINK IT WILL. WHEN YOU LOOK
AT THE MAP, IT'S FRONT LOADED. THERE IS A REASON WHY THE TWO LARGEST DELEGATE HEAVY STATES, TEXAS AND CALIFORNIA, ARE ON SUPER TUESDAY. WE WANT TO PICK THE NOMINEE AND MOVE FORWARD TO FIND THAT PERSON TO BEAT DONALD TRUMP. >> WHAT DO YOU THINK THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY NEEDS TO DO TO STOP A TRUMP RE-ELECTION IN NOVEMBER? ONE THING IN PARTICULAR, STAY THIS COURSE, FOLLOW THIS MISSION AND THIS WILL BE SUCCESSFUL? >> FIRST OF ALL, IT'S IMPORTANT TO NOT ONLY HOLD HIM
ACCOUNTABLE FOR ALL OF THE DAMAGING THINGS THAT HE HAS DONE TO OUR DEMOCRACY, BUT IMPORTANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE IN THAT -- IT SOUNDS CLICHE, BUT EXPAND OUR BASE AND THAT WE GET OUT TO VOTE. WE HAVE SEEN REPUBLICANS TIME AND TIME AGAIN DO EVERYTHING THEY CAN TO SUPPRESS VOTES ON THE -- ACROSS THE BOARD, AND CERTAINLY ON THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY'S SIDE. WE HAVE ALSO SEEN SOME VERY DISTURBING LAWS THAT HAVE BEEN PASSED SINCE -- IN KEY STATES THE PAST TWO YEARS DESIGNED TO
SUPPRESS VOTES AMONG AFRICAN AMERICANS AND MINORITIES. SO IT'S IMPORTANT WE DO ALL WE CAN TO RAISE AWARENESS OF SOME OF THOSE LAWS AND MAKES SURE THAT EVERY PERSON WHO IS ELIGIBLE TO RIGHT HAS THE RIGHT TO VOTE AND THEY DO VOTE. VERY IMPORTANT. ALISON, THE NUMBERS ARE ON THE SIDE OF DEMOCRATS. WE HAVE THE NUMBERS TO WIN. IF OUR PEOPLE TURN OUT, WE WILL BEAT DONALD TRUMP. BUT IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE DO EVERYTHING WE CAN TO MAKE SURE THAT PEOPLE HAVE THE RIGHT TO VOTE. >>
ADRIAN ELROD, THAT'S FOR BEING WITH ME TONIGHT. >> THANK YOU. >>> NEW HAMPSHIRE'S IPD PENTS ARE THE LARGEST VOTING BLOCK HEADING TO THE POLLS TONIGHT. WE HAVE BEEN TALKING TO THEM FOR MONTHS NOW. HERE IS WHAT SOME INDEPENDENTS TOLD "NBC NEWS NOW" LAST NOVEMBER. >> HOW DO YOU SEE THIS FIELD OF DEMOCRATIC CANDIDATES? >> I DON'T SEE A STRONG CONTENDER, SOMEBODY WHO HAS PRESIDENTIAL QUALITIES TO BE A REAL LEADER. I HAVE BECOME DISGUSTED
WITH THE RANCOR IN THE SYSTEM NOW. EVERYBODY -- BOTH SIDES JUST HURLING INSULTS AT EACH OTHER. THERE IS NOTHING POSITIVE FOR ME TO SEE. I DIDN'T WANT TO BE AFFILIATED WITH IT ANYMORE. >> EVERYBODY THINKS I AM A DEMOCRAT UNTIL THEY TALK TO ME AND I EXPLAIN WHY I'M NOT A DEMOCRAT. I WAS A BERNIE VOLUNTEER IN 2015. HILLY'S PLATFORM DID NOT APPEAL TO ME. I FELT WE WERE GOING TO -- WE WERE GOING TO BE STUCK WITH THE STATUS QUO. THE WAY I LIKE TO EXPLAIN IT IS I DRANK THE
OBAMA LEMONADE AND I WAS STILL THIRSTY. >> I AM RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE. WHEN I STARTED VOTING IN '09 I HAVE HISTORICALLY VOTED REPUBLICAN. BUT I FEEL LIKE 2019 IS SO DIFFERENT FROM WHEN I FIRST STARTED VOTING. >> IT BLOWS MY MIND THAT IN THE 21st CENTURY A WOMAN'S RIGHT TO CHOOSE IS EVEN UP FOR DISCUSSION. >> ALEXA HAS KEPT IN TOUCH WITH THESE VOTERS FROM NEW HAMPSHIRE. SO YOU HAVE BEEN CHECKING IN WITH THEM PERIODICALLY. TALK ME THROUGH THAT YOUR CHECK IN WITH
THEM AND SORT OF WHERE THEY ARE TODAY ON THE BIG DAY. >> EXACTLY. WE HAVE BEEN INTERESTED IN SEEING HOW THE MILLIONS OF DOLLARS SPENT IN NEW HAMPSHIRE AND THE TIME THE CANDIDATES HAVE SPENT IN NEW HAMPSHIRE HAS IMPACTED POTENTIAL VOTERS OVER TIME. AS YOU SEE THERE, RUSS, LISA, AND COURTNEY ARE COMING AT THIS FROM A DIFFERENT ANGLE. SO FOR RUSS, FOR EXAMPLE, THE GENTLEMAN THAT WE SPOKE WITH IN THE DINER, HE WAS TUNED OUT OF POLITICS. THIS IS THE TIME OF THE IMPEACHMENT HEARINGS
IN NOVEMBER. HE COMPLETELY DISENGAGED. TODAY HE TOLD ME HE WOULD NOT BE VOTING AT ALL IN THIS ELECTION CYCLE. THEN WE GO TO COURTNEY, FOR EXAMPLE, WHO IS AN INTERESTING CASE. SHE TALKED ABOUT THE IMPORTANCE OF WOMEN'S ISSUES IN HER VOTING EXPERIENCE, AND WHAT'S INTERESTING ABOUT COURTNEY IS SHE'S ONLY VOTED REPUBLICAN IN THE PAST. HER ENTIRE FAMILY IS VOTING RED TODAY AND SHE ACTUALLY TOLD ME ON THE PHONE SHE WAS LEANING TOWARDS BLUE. SHE WOULDN'T SAY EXACTLY WHO,
WHICH DEMOCRAT SHE WOULD BE VOTING FOR. SHE SAID THAT WAS GOING TO BE A GAME-TIME DECISION. SHE SAID PETE BUTTIGIEG RESONATED WITH HER. BUT SHE WAS RIGHT -- >> SHE WASN'T READY TO COMMIT? >>> SHE WAS GOING TO BE A TYPICAL NEW HAMPSHIRE UNDECLARED VOTER. THEN COURTNEY, THE -- SORRY, LISA THE RADIO SHOW HOST WHO STAYED THE COURSE WITH BERNIE SANDERS. SHE ALSO TALKED ABOUT NOT WANTING TO ALIGN HERSELF NECESSARILY OR NOT FEELING ALIGNED WITH THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY BUT
WANTING TO SUPPORT BERNIE SANDERS. SHE SAID THAT IOWA, FOR EXAMPLE, HAD A HUGE IMPACT ON HER, I MEAN, FROM HOW IOWA WAS HANDLED. SHE DIDN'T FEEL LIKE SHE ALIGNED WITH THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY BUT WANTED TO SHOW SUPPORT FOR BERNIE SANDERS. >> RUSS IS AN INTERESTING CASE TO ME, NOT VOTING. WHY IS HE NOT INTERESTED IN SHOWING UP AND VOTING TODAY? WHAT'S THE BIGGEST PROBLEM FOR HIM THERE? >> EXACTLY. THE TURNOUT IS IMPORTANT FOR DEMOCRATS RIGHT NOW. ESPECIALLY CONSIDERING
IOWA. FOR ONE LIKE RUSS TO BE PREVIOUSLY POLITICALLY ENGAGED, PREVIOUSLY EXAMINE CANDIDATES' POSITIONS AND TO COME INTO THIS YEAR AND SAY I AM NOT PARTICIPATING IS NOT THE BEST SCENARIO. >> NO, IT'S NOT WHAT YOU WANT, RIGHT? >> RIGHT? SO WITH RUSS HE COULDN'T FIND A CANDIDATE THAT COULD ELICIT THAT PASSION THAT WOULD OVERCOME THE IMPEACHMENT EXHAUSTION HE FELT THROUGHOUT THE LAST FEW MONTHS. HE SAID PETE BUTTIGIEG'S ADS WERE POSITIVE TO HIM AND HE
EXPRESSED CURIOSITY IN PATRICK'S PLATFORM AS WELL. HE SAID NO CANDIDATE PUSHED HIM OVER THE EDGE TO VOTE FOR OR AGAINST THIS TIME AROUND. >> SO CURIOUS. WE WILL HAVE TO CHECK WITH HIM A LILE BIT LATER ON TO SEE IF HE REGRETS THAT DECISION. >> EXACTLY. >> THANKS FOR BEING WITH US AND FOR KEEPING IN TOUCH WITH THOSE FOLKS. >> THANKS, ALISON. >>> OUR NEW HAMPSHIRE COVERAGE CONTINUES RIGHT HERE ON "NBC NEWS NOW." THE ROAD TO NEW HAMPSHIRE IS --
>>> ALL RIGHT. EVERY FOUR YEARS WE GET THE NEW HAMPSHIRE PRIMARY. IT'S UPON US HERE. BEAUTIFUL NEW HAMPSHIRE. THIS IS NOT A SCENE FROM THE MIDDLE OF THE WINTER LIKE IT IS RIGHT NOW. THIS LOOKS LIKE EARLY FALL, FOLIAGE, A LITTLE MORE SNOW ON THE GROUND, ICE IN THE AREA RIGHT NOW, BUT POLITICS IS WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IN NEW HAMPSHIRE, SPECIFICALLY THE IMPORTANCE OF THE NEW HAMPSHIRE PRIMARY WHEN IT COMES TO FIGURING OUT WHO THE DEMOCRATIC NOMINEE FOR PRESIDENT WILL
BE. WE HAD IOWA. WE ARE GOING TO NEW HAMPSHIRE. WE WILL TAKE A LOOK AT THE TRACK RECORD. THE IOWA/NEW HAMPSHIRE TRACK RECORD. TAKE A LOOK. LAST TIME THE IOWA CAUCUSES IN 2016, HILLARY CLINTON WON THIS. SHE WON IT NARROWLY, BUT DID GET A WIN. EIGHT DAYS LATER, THAT'S THE DISTANCE, IOWA, NEW HAMPSHIRE, EIGHT DAYS LATER BERNIE SANDERS WON NEW HAMPSHIRE EASILY. REMEMBER, VERMONT, NEW HAMPSHIRE, NEXT DOOR NEIGHBOR. CLINTON WON IOWA. SANDERS WON NEW HAMPSHIRE. WHICH GOT IT RIGHT? HILLARY
CLINTON WAS THE DEMOCRATIC NOMINEE. IT'S IOWA ONE, NEW HAMPSHIRE NOTHING WHEN IT COMES TO PREDICTING THE DEMOCRATIC NOMINEE. THE ONE BEFORE THAT, 2008, REMEMBER THIS? BARACK OBAMA WON THE IOWA CAUCUSES, VERY BIG DEAL. AND THEN HILLARY CLINTON, THIS WAS A SURPRISE, THE POLLS HAD OBAMA AHEAD, CLINTON ENDED UP WINNING NEW HAMPSHIRE. OF COURSE THE NOMINEE WE ALL REMEMBER BARACK OBAMA. SO THAT IS TWICE THE TWO MOST RECENT NOMINATIONS ON THE DEMOCRATIC SIDE THAT IOWA'S GONE ONE
WAY, NEW HAMPSHIRE'S GOING THE OTHER WAY, AND THE NOMINEE HAS BEEN THE CANDIDATE THAT IOWA PICKED. DOESN'T ALWAYS HAPPEN THIS WAY. LOOK AT 2004. JOHN KERRY WON IOWA. THE LATE CHARGE BY HIM. JOHN EDWARDS SECOND PLACE. THEY WENT TO NEW HAMPSHIRE. JOHN KERRY WON THERE AS REALLY. THERE WAS A LITTLE BIT OF A NEXT DOOR NEIGHBOR BENEFIT THERE. HOWARD DEAN FROM VERMONT WAS RUNNING THAT YEAR. KERRY WON THEM BOTH. WHEN YOU WIN THEM BOTH -- BY THE WAY, PEOPLE HAVE WON IOWA AND NEW HAMPSHIRE,
THEY ARE UNDEFEATED IN THE MODERN ERA IN TERMS OF WINNING THE DEMOCRATIC NOMINATION. THIS HAPPENED IN 2000. GORE WON IOWA, GORE WON NEW HAMPSHIRE, GORE BECAME THE NOMINEE. SO THIS CENTURY FOUR COMPETITIVE RACES FOR THE DEMOCRATIC NOMINATION. FOUR TIMES IOWA'S GOTTEN THE NOMINEE, TWO TIMES NEW HAMPSHIRE HAS. OF COURSE, WHAT MAKES THIS SO INTERESTING THIS YEAR, THAT RESULT FROM IOWA STILL KIND OF MUDDLED, LATE FORMING, IT'S UNCLEAR, BUT THE SIGNIFICANCE OF THE IOWA RESULT
COMPARED TO THE PAST, BECAUSE YOU DIDN'T GET THAT CLEAN SORT OF WINNER IMMEDIATELY THEREAFTER. PERHAPS THERE IS A THEORY OUT THERE THE NEW HAMPSHIRE PRIMARY TAKES MORE SIGNIFICANCE THIS YEAR. NO ONE DROPPED OUT AFTER IOWA. PERHAPS NEW HAMPSHIRE WILL DO WHAT IOWA NORMALLY DOES AND THIN THE FIELD OUT. THAT'S ONE THEORY. WE WILL SEE WHAT HAPPENS. OF COURSE, WHEN WE GET OUT OF IOWA AND NEW HAMPSHIRE THE RACE GOES NATIONAL. NEVADA NEXT. THEN MORE DIVERSE WHEN YOU GET TO NEVADA.
HISPANIC LARGELY, LARGE HISPANIC POPULATION IN NEVADA. THEN SOUTH CAROLINA. 61% IN THE 2016 PRIMARY IN SOUTH CAROLINA AFRICAN AMERICAN. THAT'S THE FIRST MAJOR TEST OF BLACK VOTERS. THAT'S COMING. WHEN YOU GET PAST SOUTH CAROLINA YOU ARE A FEW DAYS AWAY FROM SUPER TUESDAY. SO FROM THE TWO SMALL STATES, IOWA AND NEW HAMPSHIRE, PERHAPS WE WILL SEE SOME CLARITY. WE WILL GO TO NEVADA AND SOUTH CAROLINA AND THEN A BIG CHUNK OF THE COUNTRY IS GONNA VOTE AND WE'RE GONNA KNOW PROBABLY
WITHIN THE NEXT MONTH OR SO IF SOMEONE IS CLEARLY SEPARATING THEMSELVES IN THIS RACE, ON THEIR WAY TO GOING THE NOMINEE OR DO WE HAVE A MESS? DO WE JUST HAVE A FOUR-CAR PILEUP? DARE I SAY IT, A BROKERED CONVENTION? WE ARE ABOUT TO FIND OUT. >> NEW HAMPSHIRE VOTERS THE FIRST IN THE NATION TO HEAD TO THE POLLS. ONE THING ON THEIR MINDS, MONEY. THE MONEY PROBLEMS THEY FACE DAY IN AND DAY OUT. THERE ARE STRONG POINTS IN NEW HAMPSHIRE'S ECONOMY AND OVERALL PERFORMANCE AS A STATE.
BASED ON THE NUMBERS FROM 2018, NEW HAMPSHIRE HAS THE LOWEST POVERTY RATE IN THE COUNTRY. NEARLY 7% OF THEIR RESIDENTS SAY THEY HAVE INCOME BELOW THE POVERTY LINE. WAGES ARE A VERY BIG PROBLEM IN NEW HAMPSHIRE. AVERAGE WAGES ACTUALLY DECLINED IN 2018 DESPITE LOW UNEMPLOYMENT. SINCE 2008, AVERAGE WAGES IN NEW HAMPSHIRE WENT UP JUST 0.6%. COMPARE THAT TO A 7% NATIONALLY. WHEN IT COMES TO EDUCATION, NEW HAMPSHIRE'S GOT SOME SERIOUS PROBLEMS. IT RANKS LAST FOR AFFORDABLE HIGHER
EDUCATION. THIS COULD BE THE MAIN REASON THEY HAVE SUCH A -- MORE THAN 24% OF RESIDENTS IN THE GRANITE STATE SAY THEY HAVE GOT OUTSTANDING STUDENT LOANS. THAT IS AN EXPENSE THAT BRINGS THEM DOWN EVERY SINGLE MONTH. HIGH HEALTH CARE COSTS IN NEW HAMPSHIRE. WHILE MANY SAY THEY GET THEIR INSURANCE FROM THEIR PRIVATE EMPLOYER, A LOT ARE STRUGGLING TO KEEP UP. OVER 90% OF PEOPLE THERE HAVE SAID IN THE LAST YEAR ALONE THEY DON'T GO TO THE DOCTOR BECAUSE IT COSTS TOO MUCH. THE OTHER
NUMBERS ARE THE ONES WE WILL BE WATCHING AS WE CONTINUE THE ROAD TO THE FUTURE. >> NEW HAMPSHIRE IS A KEY STATE IN THIS ELECTION. NOT JUST BECAUSE IT HOLDS THE FIRST PRIMARY, BUT ALSO BECAUSE OF ITS UNPREDICTABILITY. SO UNPREDICTABLE THAT DEMOCRATIC CANDIDATES HAVE SPENT 300 DAYS THERE. LARGEST GROUP OF VOTERS IN THE STATE ARE REGISTERED REPUBLICANS OR REGISTERED DEMOCRATS. IN FACT, THEY ARE NOT AFFILIATED WITH ANY PARTY. "NBC NEWS NOW" ALEXA YODA SPOKE TO THREE VOTERS
WITH THREE DIFFERENT PERSPECTIVE. >> >> I'M ALL OVER THE PLACE WITH HIGH HISTORY I FEEL LIKE I AM IN THE MIDDLE. >> A LOT OF PEOPLE LIKE ME CHOOSE TO REMAIN UNAFFILIATED. >> Reporter: NEW HAMPSHIRE HOLDS THE FIRST PRESIDENTIAL PRIMARY IN THE UNITED STATES, BUT IT CAN BE NOTORIOUSLY HARD TO PREDICT BECAUSE THE LARGEST GROUP OF THE VOTERS IN THE STATE ISN'T DEMOCRAT OR REPUBLICAN. IT'S VOTERS WHO ARE REGISTERED BUT HAVEN'T DECLARED A POLITICAL
PARTY. NEW HAMPSHIRE IS UNIQUE BECAUSE THOSE UNDECLARED VOTERS CAN CHOOSE TO VOTE IN EITHER PRIMARY AND MAKE THAT CHOICE RIGHT UP UNTIL ELECTION DAY. THEY MAKE UP 42% OF THE ELECTORATE, BUT THEY ARE NOT A MONOLITH. NOT ALL UNDECLARED VOTERS ARE ALIKE. WE FOLLOWED THREE TO FIND OUT WHERE THEY STAND. >> EVERYBODY THINKS I AM A DEMOCRAT UNTIL THEY TALK TO ME AND I EXPLAIN WHY I AM NOT A DEMOCRAT. >> Reporter: SHE IS AN ENVIRONMENTAL SCIENTIST AND VOLUNTEER AT HER COMMUNITY
RADIO STATION. SHE CARES ABOUT THINGS LIKE CLEAN WATER AND ENVIRONMENTAL REGULATION. YOU MIGHT THINK SHE'D BE REGISTERED AS A DEMOCRAT. TELL ME ABOUT WHEN YOU LEFT THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY. >> IT WAS THE LATE '90s AND I FELT VERY DISTANT FROM WHAT I SAW AS PRESIDENT CLINTON'S COZINESS WITH WALL STREET AND THAT WUNT THE KIND OF FDR DEMOCRATIC PARTY THAT I GREW UP WITH. SO WHEN I HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO REGISTER TO VOTE AND I COULD CHOOSE, I CHOSE TO NOT AFFILIATE WITH
EITHER PARTY. AND I REMEMBER THE REGISTRAR SAYING YOU YOUNG PEOPLE, YOU DON'T COMMIT TO ANYTHING. AND I SAID, YOU KNOW, WHEN THE DEMOCRATS START REPRESENTING ME, THEN I'LL START REPRESENTING THEM. >> Reporter: HERE IN THE STATE OF NEW HAMPSHIRE WE ARE LOOKING AT NEEDING TO SPEND 3 TO $5 BILLION ON DRINKING WATER AND STORMWATER AND WASTEWATER INFRASTRUCTURE IN THE NEXT 10 TO 15 YEARS. THAT'S NOT BEING DISCUSSED. >> Reporter: WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT THE FIELD OF
CANDIDATES, ARE YOU LEANING TOWARDS SOMEONE LIKE A BERNIE SANDERS WHO HAS BACKED A POLICY PROPOSAL LIKE THE GREEN NEW DEAL? WHO DO YOU GRAVITATE TOWARDS? >> I WAS A BERNIE VOLUNTEER IN 2015. HILLARY'S PLATFORM DID NOT APPEAL TO ME AND I THOUGHT WE WERE GONNA -- WE WERE GONNA BE STUCK WITH THE STATUS QUO. THE WAY I LIKE TO EXPLAIN IT IS I DRANK THE OBAMA LEMONADE AND I WAS STILL THIRSTY. LIKE WE DIDN'T MAKE THE MOVEMENT DURING THE OBAMA YEARS, PARTICULARLY IN THE AREA OF
THE ENVIRONMENT, THAT I WOULD HAVE LIKED TO SEE. HERE WAS THIS GREAT OPPORTUNITY TO KIND OF USE THAT MOMENTUM TO GO FORWARD. I HAVE BEEN FOLLOWING BERNIE SINCE HE WAS A REPRESENTATIVE IN WASHINGTON. ON THE OTHER HAND, YOU KNOW, FOR ME I'M A POLITICAL JUNKIE, AND IT COMES DOWN TO WHO CAN BEAT TRUMP. >> Reporter: WHILE LISA LEANS LEFT, SHE HASN'T SETTLED WHICH DEMOCRAT TO VOTE FOR. COURTNEY FEELS DIFFERENTLY. SHE ALWAYS VOTED REPUBLICAN BUT ISN'T SURE THAT TODAY'S
REPUBLICAN PARTY REALLY REPRESENTS HER ANYMORE. >> I FEEL LIKE I'M RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE. WHEN I STARTED VOTING IN '09 I HAVE HISTORICALLY VOTED REPUBLICAN, BUT I FEEL LIKE 2019 IS SO DIFFERENT FROM WHEN I FIRST STARTED VOTING. IT BLOWS MY MIND THAT IN THE 21st CENTURY A WOMAN'S RIGHT TO CHOOSE IS EVEN UP FOR DISCUSSION. I THINK THAT THERE ARE SO MANY MORE ISSUES IN THIS COUNTRY THAT CAN BE TALKED ABOUT. VETERANS BEING HOMELESS. FLINT, MICHIGAN, NOT HAVING CLEAN WATER.
I JUST DON'T THINK THAT IT'S RELEVANT. WOMEN SHOULD HAVE A RIGHT TO CHOOSE WHAT GOES ON IN THEIR BODIES. I DON'T LIKE THE FACT THAT THEY USE IT AS A POLITICAL GAME TO GET VOTES. >> Reporter: COURTNEY IS EXACTLY THE TYPE OF VOTER THAT SOME OF THE MORE MODERATE DEMOCRATIC CANDIDATES MIGHT BE ABLE TO WIN OVER. >> I WOULD SAY THE ONE I HAVE BEEN WATCHING AND REALLY CAUGHT MY EYE WOULD BE MAYOR PETE BUTTIGIEG. I KNOW HE IS YOUNG, BUT I FEEL LIKE THAT'S WHY I
GRAVITATED FOR HIM. HE IS ACCOMPLISHED FOR SOMEONE WHO IS 37, I BELIEVE HE IS, AND I THINK HE GETS WHAT THE MILLENNIAL -- WHAT ARE 'FIGHTING FOR. >> Reporter: AND THERE IS A THIRD TYPE OF UNDECLARED VOTER I CAME ACROSS. ONE FED UP WITH POLITICS ALL TOGETHER. >> I HAVE BECOME DISGUSTED WITH THE RANCOR IN THE SYSTEM NOW. EVERYBODY -- BOTH SIDES JUST HURLING INSULTS AT EACH OTHER. THERE IS NOTHING POSITIVE COMING FROM EITHER SIDE THAT I CAN SEE. AND I JUST DIDN'T WANT
TO BE AFFILIATED WITH IT ME MORE. >> Reporter: THIS IS RUSS BLANCHET, AN ELECTRONICS TECHNICIAN. HE ALSO VOTED REPUBLICAN HIS WHOLE LIFE. >> I VOTED FOR DONALD TRUMP IN THE PRIMARY ELECTION. PRIMARILY A PROTEST VOTE THINKING HE WOULDN'T HAVE TRACTION TO GET OUT OF NEW HAMPSHIRE. IT WAS JEB BUSH'S YEAR. AND I BELIEVED THAT. AS A PROTEST VOTE, TRUMP. >> Reporter: NOW? >> THE CUMULATIVE EFFECT OF THE NEGATIVITY ALL THESE YEARS. >> Reporter: AND YOU
ARE STILL ON TWITTER THOUGH? >> YES. I HAVE THE ABILITY TO MUTE AND BLOCK AND TUNE OUT THE STUFF I'M NOT INTERESTED IN ON TWITTER. >> Reporter: HAVE YOU WATCHED ANY OF THE IMPEACHMENT HEARINGS? >> NOTHING, ZERO. >> Reporter: EPSTEIN, BIDEN, TRUMP, IMPEACH, EVERYTHING ELSE? >> A LOT. IT MIGHT BE THE SAME. >> Reporter: BUT YOU POTENTIALLY HAVE ZERO VIEWS ON IMPEACHMENT? >> YES, THAT'S THE IDEA. I AM EXHAUSTED BY THIS PROCESS. IT'S NOT
PRETTY. I WAS VERY ENGAGED IN THE NEWS CYCLE FOR A VERY LONG TIME. IT WAS A LOT. I WOULD GO ONLINE G TO THE POLITICAL NEWS SITES, DIGEST ALL OF THE NEWS OF THE DAY IN MINUTE DETAIL AND MY BLOOD PRESSURE WAS UP, MY HEALTH WAS DOWN. IT WAS AN UNHEALTHY THING FOR ME, WHICH IS WHY I HAD TO DO IT FOR MY OWN WELL BEING. >> Reporter: YOU ARE HAPPIER NOW? >> YES, I AM, WITHOUT A DOUBT. >> Reporter: RUSS DOESN'T WANT TO VOTE FOR TRUMP AGAIN IN

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IS A DEMOCRAT HE CAN GET BEHIND EITHER. HOW DO YOU SEE THE FIELD OF DEMOCRATIC CANDIDATES? >> I DON'T SEE A STRONG CONTENDER. I DON'T SEE SOMEBODY WHO HAS GOT PRESIDENTIAL QUALITIES, TO BE A REAL LEADER. >> Reporter: NOT ONE PERSON IN THE FIELD THAT YOU THINK COULD BE POTENTIALLY PRESIDENTIAL? >> I HAVE RESPECT FOR DUVALL PATRICK, BUT I NEED TO SEE HIM IN ACTION MORE TO MAKE A DECISION ON WHETHER TO SUPPORT HIM OR NOT. >> Reporter: IF THERE WAS A
REPUBLICAN CANDIDATE THAT HAD SOME OF THOSE VALUES THAT YOU ARE LOOKING FOR THAT WASN'T TRUMP, YOU WOULD MORE LIKELY VOTE FOR THEM THAN THE CURRENT OFFERINGS IN THE DEMOCRATIC FIELD? >> I BELIEVE SO. >> Reporter: REGISTERED UNDECLARED VOTERS CAN WAIT FOR THE LAST MINUTE TO REGISTER WHO THEY ARE VOTING FOR IN NEW HAMPSHIRE. HE CO-WROTE A BOOK ON THE NEW HAMPSHIRE PRIMARY. >> I GUESS I WOULD SAY TO NOT THINK OF IT AS A VOTING BLOCK, BUT TO THINK OF IT AS THREE
VOTING BLOCKS. THE UNDECLAREDS THAT ARE REALLY DEMOCRATS, THE UNDECLAREDS THAT ARE REALLY REPUBLICANS, AND THEN THE UNDECLAREDS WHO AREN'T THAT INTERESTED IN POLITICS AND PROBABLY WON'T VOTE IN A PRIMARY. THERE IS NO REASON FOR VOTERS TO MAKE UP THEIR MIND EARLY. THAT'S REALLY THE THING THAT DISTINCTION NEW HAMPSHIRE FROM ANY OF THE OTHER PRIMARY STATES OR NOMINATION CONTESTS ANYWHERE. WE HAVE REALLY HIGH TURNOUT. SO TURNOUTS THIS YEAR, MY ESTIMATION IS 40 TO 50%. >>
Reporter: HILLARY WON BY LESS THAN 3,000 VOTES. IT WAS THE SECOND CLOSEST STATE IN THE COUNTRY. THAT'S WHY FOR THE PRIMARY AND GENERAL THESE INDEPENDENT VOTERS ARE IMPORTANT. >> THE INDEPENDENT VOTERS GIVES ME THE LUXURY OF VOTING FOR WHO I THINK IS THE BEST CANDIDATE. >> WE WILL SEE. THE DEMOCRATIC CANDIDATES HAVE BEEN VISITING A NUMBER OF BATTLEGROUND STATES. >> LONG DAYS, REPEATED REJECTIONS, BUT POSITIVE PERSISTENCE. THIS IS THE REALITY OF CANVASSING FOR
PRESIDENTIAL CAMPAIGNS IN THE FIRST IN THE NATION PRIMARY STATES. >> I AM ORIGINALLY FROM LOS ANGELES, CALIFORNIA, AND I GRADUATED FROM UCLA. >> Reporter: MEET NOAH, A STAFF FIELD ORGANIZER FOR THE BIDEN CAMPAIGN IN NEW HAMPSHIRE. >> NEW HAMPSHIRE, I AM NOT 100% SURE. I WAS GOING TO GO TO LAW SCHOOL AND THEN I WAS LIKE, YOU KNOW WHAT? I NEED TO GO WORK FOR JOE BIDEN. I NEED TO DO SOMETHING TO HELP OUR COUNTRY AND SO THE ONLY CAMPAIGN I APPLIED TO WAS JOE BIDEN AND
I GOT AN INTERVIEW IN NEW HAMPSHIRE AND I GOT A SECOND INTERVIEW IN NEW HAMPSHIRE AND THEN I GOT A JOB OUT HERE. SO I THINK I MOVED LIKE ON SIX DAYS NOTICE AND STARTED WORKING. >> Reporter: ALBERT, AN UNPAID VOLUNTEER FOR THE BERNIE SANDERS CAMPAIGN. >> YEAH, I AM ALBERT. I AM HERE WITH THE BERNIE SANDERS CAMPAIGN. DO YOU HAVE A SECOND TO TALK ABOUT THE DEMOCRATIC PRIMARY? >> NO, I DON'T HAVE THE TIME RIGHT NOW, BUT THANK YOU. >> OKAY, THANK YOU. >>
Reporter: HE SPENT HIS SATURDAY AFTERNOON WITH THEM AS THEY KNOCK ON DOORS IN THE STATE CALABASAS OF CONCORD. OFTENTIMES A GRUELING JOB. OF C. OFTENTIMES A GRUELING JOB.A OF . OFTENTIMES A GRUELING JOB.P OF . OFTENTIMES A GRUELING JOB.IT OF. OFTENTIMES A GRUELING JOB.AL OF. OFTENTIMES A GRUELING JOB. >> HI THERE, I'M HERE TO SPEAK WITH MARY? >> I'M NOT INTERESTED. >> HAVE A GOOD ONE. WHAT WE ARE DOING TODAY LIKE I SAID IS OUT TALKING TO VOTERS AND KNOCKING ON
DOORS, SEE WHAT PEOPLE THINK OF WHEN THEY THINK OF POLITICAL STUFF, BUT WHAT I HAVE HERE IS CALLED LITERATURE, AND THIS HAS A COUPLE OF POLICY POINTS. IT HAS LIKE THE MAIN OVERALL MESSAGE OF OUR CAMPAIGN, AND IT HAS A NICE BEAUTIFUL PICTURE OF JOE BIDEN, THE ONE AND ONLY. SO AWAY WE DO IS WE MAKE SURE WE HAND THAT TO EVERY SINGLE PERSON WE TALK TO AND ALSO LEAVE THAT ON THE DOORS OF THE PEOPLE WE TALK TO. THE OTHER THING I HAVE HERE IS CALLED A COMMIT TO VOTE CARD. THIS IS WHAT WE
COLLECT WHEN WE FIND SOMEONE AS A SUPPORTER. WE SEND IT BACK TO THEM THREE DAYS BEFORE THE ELECTION. AND THEN I HAVE MY LIST AND IT HAS MY MAP AND ALL THE NAMES AND THE ADDRESSES OF THE PEOPLE WE ARE GOING TO BE TALKING TO TODAY. SO I GO ON TO MY COMPUTER PROGRAM AND I CLICK THE AREA I WANT TO WORK IN AND A BUNCH OF DOORS COME UP AND THEN I'M ABLE TO USE A SOFTWARE TOOL TO KIND OF CUT, WE CALL IT CUTTING TURF, CUT A LITTLE AREA, AND I PRINT IT OUT AND IT HAS THE MAP AND ALL THE
NAMES. YOU ARE GENERALLY ASSIGNED TO A DISTRICT OR WARD AND A CERTAIN SECTION OF THAT. AND YOU WILL BE GIVEN LIKE A SET NUMBER OF HOUSES, GIVEN STREETS. ON A GOOD DAY YOU HAVE A SERIES OF GOOD CONVERSATIONS WITH PEOPLE ABOUT POLICIES. YOU HAVE THE VOTERS, A LOT OF THEM RESPOND VERY WELL TO A FACE-TO-FACE COMMUNICATION AS WELL AS HAVING JUST A VOICE TO LISTEN TO. SPEAKING TO THEM ON A ONE-ON-ONE LEVEL. AND THAT'S THE CORE OF WHAT THE CAMPAIGN IS TRYING TO DO, JUST REACH OUT TO
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PRIMARIES SET TO BREAK A RECORD FOR CAMPAIGN SPENDING IN THE STATE, A WHOPPING ESTIMATED $150 MILLION, THOSE ON THE GROUND KNOW HOW HIGH THE STAKES ARE. NOAH HAS GOTTEN BETTER SINCE STARTING ON THE JOB BACK IN JULY. >> AT FIRST I WAS LIKE A LITTLE SKITTISH ABOUT COMING UP. YOU JUST KIND OF GO. >>
Reporter: ALBERT, THE HIGHS AND LOWS ARE WORTH IT. >> THE ASPECT OF, LIKE, SPEAKING TO SOMEBODY WHO IS SO IDEOLOGICALLY OPPOSED TO YOU THAT THEY ARE JUST LIKE, GET OUT. SO THAT'S TOUGH, BUT THE FLIP SIDE, YOU HAVE PEOPLE WHO ARE ABSOLUTELY WITH YOU, THAT THERE IS THE FEELING OF COMMUNITY THAT GETS BUILT UP WITH THOSE PEOPLE WHO IDENTIFY STRONGLY WITH WHAT YOU, YOURSELF, BELIEVE IN. >> HEALTH CARE, EDUCATION AND THE ECONOMY ARE TOP ISSUES FOR VOTERS IN THIS ELECTION.
ADD THE DISTRIBUTION OF INCOME AND WEALTH IN THE U.S. AND THAT'S FOUR OF THE TOP TEN ACCORDING TO A RECENT GALLUP POLL. ONE DEMOCRATIC CANDIDATE LOOKING TO BRIDGE THE DIVIDE BETWEEN THE HAVE'S AND HAVE NOTES IS ANDREW YANG. HE LAUNCHED A PILOT PROGRAM FOR HIS INCOME PROPOSAL. SIMONE BOYCE CAUGHT UP WITH YANG AND RECIPIENTS, INCLUDING ONE NEW HAMPSHIRE RESIDENTS. >> THIS IS TOO GOOD TO BE TRUE. THEN I GOT THE DEPOSIT IN MY BANK ACCOUNT ON MY WAY TO WORK. I PICKED UP 34 NEW
NOTEBOOKS FOR MY STUDENTS THAT DAY. >> Reporter: THIS IS AN EXTRA THOUSAND DOLLARS IN YOUR BANK ACCOUNT EVERY MONTH. NO STRINGS ATTACHED. ANDREW YANG'S PRESIDENTIAL CAMPAIGN SIFTED THROUGH HALF A MILLION APPLICANTS AND RANDOMLY PICKED THESE EIGHT TO TEST OUT HIS SIGNATURE PICKS. THE FREEDOM DIVIDENDS. IT'S A UNIVERSAL BASIC INCOME PLAN THAT WOULD GIVE $1,000 A MONTH TO EVERY ADULT OVER THE AGE OF 18. >> OUR COUNTRY IS RUN BY A SOFTWARE SET, DOES NOT CARE ABOUT US
AT ALL. IT'S LIKE THE SOFTWARE OF CAPITAL EFFICIENCY AND ECONOMIC OPTIMIZATION, AND IN THEORY THE MECHANISM TO ADDRESS THAT IS THE FACT THAT WE LIVE IN A DEMOCRACY AND ACTUALLY CAN MAKE CHANGES FOR THE BETTER. BUT OUR DEMOCRACY NOW IS NOT WHAT IT ONCE WAS. >> EVERYBODY LOVES FREE MONEY. THEY SEEM HAPPY TO BE HERE. I WONDER WHY? >> THE BEAUTY IS, NUMBER ONE, SEEING THE DIFFERENCE IT MAKES IN PEOPLE'S LIVES. I MEAN, IT'S SO TOUCHING AND JOYOUS. BUT NUMBER TWO, IT
SHOWS OTHER AMERICANS WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE IN REAL LIFE. >> Reporter: THROUGH SOME SPEECHES, DEBATE APPEARANCES AND IOWA DINER MEET AND GREETS, YANG HOPES CONVINCE AMERICA THAT THIS IS THE SECLUSION TO A LOT OF OUR -- SOLUTION TO A LOT OF OUR PROBLEMS LIKE INCOME INEQUALITY AND JOB LOSSES FROM AUTOMATION. 25% OF AMERICAN JOBS ARE AT HIGH RISK OF BEING WIPED OUT BY AUTOMATION ACCORDING TO A STUDY BY THE BROOKINGS INSTITUTE. HOW IS THIS $1,000 A MONTH ACTUALLY GOING TO MAKE A
DIFFERENCE? HAS IT MADE A DIFFERENCE IN YOUR LIFE? >> THIS WILL GIVE ME A CUSHION TO JUST GO OUT AND DO WHAT I WANT TO DO. I THINK THAT'S WHAT'S GONNA HAPPEN. IF PEOPLE ARE LOSING THEIR JOBS, THEY ARE GOING TO HAVE THIS CUSHION WHERE THEY CAN AT LEAST GET BY UNTIL SOMETHING COMES UP FOR THEM. >> Reporter: SO HOW DOES ANDREW YANG, A EFFECT ENTREPRENEUR, TURNED PRESIDENTIAL HOPEFUL, PLAN TO PAY FOR THIS? RIGHT NOW HIS CAMPAIGN IS PAYING THESE FREEDOM DIVIDEND
RECIPIENTS. HERE IS BIG IDEA. IMPLEMENT A 10% VALUE TAX ON GOODS AND SERVICES. EVERYTHING BUT CLOTHING AND GROCERIES. >> IF WE HAVE AMAZON PAY ITS FAIR SHARE WITH GOOGLE FOR EVERY AD, FACEBOOK, UBER, ALL OF THESE GIANT TECH COMPANIES, WE CAN GENERATE HUNDREDS OF BILLIONS IN NEW REVENUE VERY, VERY QUICKLY. >> Reporter: YANG CLAIMS A VALUE ADDED TAX WOULD CAUSE A MINIMAL PRICE INCREASE IN THE ITEMS WE BUY AND USE EVERY DAY AND PLENTY OF OTHER COUNTRIES HAVE A SIMILAR TAX. MOST
ECONOMISTS THINK IT WOULD IMPACT CONSUMERS AND HIT THE POOR THE HARDEST. WHILE A SMALL-SCALE UBI PROGRAM EXISTS IN ALASKA, AMERICA HAS NEVER ATTEMPTED SOMETHING LIKE THIS NATIONWIDE. THERE IS STILL A LOT OF QUESTIONS ABOUT WHAT THAT WOULD LOOK LIKE. ISN'T IT HARD TO QUANTIFY HOW BIG OF AN INVESTMENT WE WOULD SEE FROM UNIVERSAL BASIC INCOME BECAUSE THIS HASN'T BEEN REPLICATED ON A LARGE SCALE? >> WELL, IT'S COMMON SENSE THAT IN A COUNTRY WHERE 78% OF US ARE LIVING
PAYCHECK TO PAYCHECK, THAT IF YOU PUT $1,000 A MONTH IN PEOPLE'S HANDS, MOST IS GOING TO GO RIGHT BACK IN THE ECONOMY. >> Reporter: YANG'S VICTORY IS STILL A LONG SHOT BASED ON CURRENT POLLS. HIS WILDLY SUPPORTIVE FAN BASE, THE YANG GANG, DOESN'T WANT TO HEAR THAT. WHAT ABOUT THESE RECIPIENTS? WHAT DO YOU THINK WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT ANDREW YANG AS A CANDIDATE? I MEAN, DO YOU KNOW MUCH ABOUT HIM BEFORE THIS? >> NO, I REALLY DIDN'T KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT HIM. I WAS
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MOSTLY A BERNIE SANDERS SUPPORTER. >> Reporter: OKAY. >> AND I LIKE ANDREW BECAUSE HE WAS SIMILAR TO BERNIE AND THEN HE HAD IDEAS LIKE THIS, THIS DIVIDEND. >> Reporter: YOU ARE OBVIOUSLY IN A VERY IMPORTANT STATE IN NEW HAMPSHIRE. HAVE YOU THOUGHT ABOUT HOW YOU ARE GOING TO VOTE? >> I'M NOT SURE YET. >> WE'LL BE RIGHT BACK. >>> IT'S NOT A WEIRD ANALOGUE TO AL QAEDA OR ISIS. NOT SOME FOREIGN THING THAT LOOKS LIKE SOMETHING WE HAVE
BEEN FIGHTING ON THE WAR ON TERROR. IT'S FUNDAMENTALLY AS AMERICAN AS ANYTHING. AND IT IS AN EXISTENTIAL THREAT TO THE MULTI-RACIAL, PLURIST I CAN, EQUAL, AND OPEN DEMOCRACY WE HAVE BEEN FIGHTING FOR IN THIS COUNTRY SINCE PEOPLE DIED ON THE BATTLEFIELD IN A CIVIL WAR. >>> BEV GOT THE FUNDAMENTAL THING ABOUT HUMAN BEINGS AND THE WAY WE CONSTITUTE OUR POLITICS. AND THE DANGER IS THAT IF OUR POLITICS GROW TOO TRIBAL, THEY GO TRIBAL, THEN WE'LL LOSE THIS SORT OF WAY OF
TALKING. >> WHY IS THIS HAPPENING WITH CHRIS HAYES. SUBSCRIBE NOW. >>> JUST LIKE IN IOWA, IT COMES DOWN TO WHAT THE CANDIDATES SAID TO THEIR PLATFORMS AND WHAT THEY SAY THEY ARE GOING TO DO TO HELP THE RESIDENTS OF THE GRANITE STATE. HERE THEY ARE IN THEIR OWN WORDS. ♪♪ >> SO MANY PEOPLE. >> ALL RIGHT. WHERE DO I SIGN, BOSS? THERE YOU GO. PUT THE LIGHTS OUT. >> THIS IS A GREAT DAY FOR ME. A DAY WHEN I'M OFFICIALLY IN THE RACE FOR PRESIDENT OF THE
UNITED STATES. >> I THINK WE HAVE AN EXCELLENT CHANCE TO WIN HERE AGAIN IN NEW HAMPSHIRE, TO DEFEAT THE MOST DANGEROUS PRESIDENT IN THE HISTORY OF THIS COUNTRY. >> EVERY DEMOCRAT SITTING IN THESE SEATS IN FRONT OF ME IS MORE QUALIFIED AND MORE DECENT AND MORE PATRIOTIC THAN THE CRIMINAL WHO RESIDES IN THE WHITE HOUSE OF THE UNITED STATES. >> IT'S ABOUT TIME WE HELD THIS CRIMINAL TO ACCOUNT. >> WE NEED TO BUILD A BLUE WALL BRINGING BACK THESE DEMOCRATS
WITH INDEPENDENTS AND SOME MODERATE REPUBLICANS. WE BUILD A BLUE WALL AROUND THESE STATES AND WE MAKE DONALD TRUMP PAY FOR IT. >> AMERICANS ARE LOOKING TO PRESCRIPTION DRUG PRICES AND WONDERING HOW THEY ARE GOING TO BE ABLE TO BUY GROCERIES, AND THE PRESIDENT HAS US ARGUING OVER WE ARE GOING TO BUY GREENLAND. >> RAISE THE FEDERAL INIMUM WAGE TO AT LEAST 15 BUCKS AN HOUR. >> HOW DO YOU STAY IN GREAT SHAPE? >> MY PROBLEM IS I PROBABLY HAVE A LITTLE BIT TOO
MUCH ENERGY. SOMETIMES GETS ME IN TROUBLE. >> I DIDN'T DISAGREE WITH ANYTHING YOU SAID HERE. >> GOOD. LET'S QUIT THERE, BOB. YOU KNOW, WHEN MY HUSBAND SAYS THAT, I'M DONE. I'M LIKE, OKAY, BABE, LET'S QUIT. OKAY. >> THEY SAID IF THE PRIMARY WERE TODAY, BIDEN WOULD GET THE NOMINATION BECAUSE MANY PEOPLE SAY THEY FIND A FEMALE CANDIDATE UNLIKABLE. THAT'S NOT TRUE, IS IT? I THINK WE ARE REALLY LIKABLE. >> I WOULD BE THE MOST PROGRESSIVE
PRESIDENT IN MY LIFETIME. >> I AM THE MOST PRO-PROGRESS, PRO-INNOVATION GUY AROUND I THINK. >> I AM THE ONE ON THE STAGE THAT HAS PASSED OVER 100 BILL AS THE LEAD DEMOCRAT, MORE THAN ANYONE ELSE IN CONGRESS. >> OUR CAMPAIGN IS THE CAMPAIGN THAT HAS THE COURAGE TO THINK BIG, NOT SMALL. HAS THE COURAGE TO SAY THAT MAYBE THERE IS SOMETHING WRONG WHEN THREE PEOPLE ON THE TOP HAVE MORE WEALTH OWN MORE WEALTH THAN THE BOTTOM HALF OF AMERICAN SOCIETY. >> THIS IS
OUR MOMENT IN HISTORY. THIS IS OUR MOMENT TO DREAM BIG AND FIGHT HARD. THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU ALL SO MUCH. >> THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU, NEW HAMPSHIRE. >> THANK YOU ALL VERY MUCH. >> THANK YOU FOR SPENDING SOME TIME WITH US HERE ON NBC "NEWS NOW." I'M STEVE KORNACKI. UNTIL NEXT TIME. >>> MICKEY MOUSE AGAINST THIS PRESIDENT WOULD HAVE A SHOT. >> I WON EXACTLY THE COALITION IN NEW HAMPSHIRE AND IN THE COUNTRY. >> WE HAVE
AN AGENDA THAT SPEAKS TO THE NEEDS OF WORKING FAMILIES ALL ACROSS THE COUNTRY. >> I GOT THE BEST CHANCE AT BEATING DONALD TRUMP BECAUSE I'M GOING TO BRING THE PARTY TOGETHER. >> THE ONLY ECONOMIC HE'S ACTUALLY KEPT IS CUTTING TAXES ON CORPORATIONS AND THE WEALTHY. >>> THE MUSIC MEANS ONE THING. IT'S ELECTION NIGHT HERE AT NBC NEWS. GOOD EVENING. I CAN CHUCK TODD COMING FROM OUR NEW HAMPSHIRE HEADQUARTERS. THE

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PRESIDENTIAL PRIMARY RIGHT HERE ONLY ON NBC "NEWS NOW." WE ARE GEARING UP WE THINK FOR POTENTIALLY A THIRD NIGHT AND BELIEVE IT OR NOT WE THINK WE MIGHT GET ELECTION RETURNS TONIGHT. THAT WOULD BE FUN. TO DO AN ELECTION NIGHT WITH RESULTS. DEMOCRATS ARE COMPETING IN THIS CRUCIALLY IMPORTANT STATE. TO DETERMINE WHO WILL FACE PRESIDENT TRUMP IN THE GENERAL ELECTION THIS NOVEMBER. THE BIG QUESTION TONIGHT, WILL NEW HAMPSHIRE VOTERS START TO WHITTLE DOWN THIS FIELD? WILL THERE
BE CLARITY IN THIS INCREASINGLY UNSETTLED CONTEST? OR SIMPLY MORE CONFUSION FOLLOWING LAST WEEK'S IOWA CAUCUS DEBACLE. RIGHT NOW, MOST POLLS ARE CLOSING IN NEW HAMPSHIRE. WHICH MEANS WE ARE EXPECTING THE FIRST RESULTS TO TRICKLE IN ANY MINUTE. WE ARE ALSO LESS THAN AN HOUR AWAY FROM OFFICIAL POLL CLOSE TIME. NO CHARACTERIZATIONS COMING OUT FROM US. NO CHARACTERIZATIONS COMING OUT FROM ANY RESPONSIBLE MEDIA ORGANIZATION ON THAT FRONT BECAUSE SOME OF THESE COMMUTERS ARE STILL
VOTING. AND THAT COMMUTER VOTE, BOY, THAT COULD HAVE AN INTERESTING IMPACT ON WHAT WE ARE SEEING. WE'VE ALREADY GOTTEN OUR FIRST LOOK INSIDE TONIGHT'S ELECTION. ACCORDING TO OUR NBC EXIT POLLS, VOTERS HERE AREN'T AS LIBERAL AS THEY WERE. DOESN'T MEAN HE ISN'T GOING TO WIN TONIGHT. JUST MEANS IT ISN'T GOING TO BE LIKE IT WAS FOR HIM FOUR YEARS AGO. WE GOT OUR CAPITOL HILL CORRESPONDENT KASIE HUNT. LET'S DO IT. MARK MURRAY, SENIOR POLITICS EDITOR AT NBC NEWS.
AND FORMER HILLARY CLINTON CAMPAIGN ADVISOR, ADRIENNE ELROD. ONE OF OUR NEWEST HOSTS JOSHUA JOHNSON. WE GOT A GREAT TEAM OF REPORTERS AT POLLING LOCATIONS ACROSS THE STATE. THEY ARE GOING TO BE TRACKING THE BIG STORIES AND OF COURSE JOIN OUR TEAM OF ROAD WARRIORS ON THE GROUND. WE WILL BE TALKING ALL NIGHT TO THEM, THE PARTY STRATEGISTS, THE CAMPAIGNS THEMSELVES. YOU WILL SEE THE SPEECHES ALL RIGHT HERE. THIS IS ELECTION NIGHT FOR POLITICAL JUNKIES. SO LET'S GET TO TONIGHT'S
LATEST DEVELOPMENT, TONIGHT'S FRONT-RUNNER BERNIE SANDERS. SHAQUILLE BREWSTER CAUGHT UP WITH SANDERS EARLIER TODAY. SHAQ, THEY EXPECT TO WIN. THEY WANT TO WIN. AND THEY WANT US TO SAY A WIN'S A WIN. >> THAT'S EXACTLY RIGHT, CHUCK, AND I ACTUALLY GOT TO SIT DOWN WITH SENATOR SANDERS A LITTLE EARLIER TODAY AND HE SAID HE'S NERVOUS. HE IS FEELING A LITTLE BIT NERVOUS. IT IS STILL ELECTION DAY BUT IN THE END, HE IS FEELING GOOD. AND IF YOU LOOK AT THE INDICATORS THAT
WE HAVE BEEN SEEING COMING INTO NEW HAMPSHIRE, IT'S CLEAR WHY HE STILL HAS THE OPTIMISM WITH HIS CAMPAIGN. FIRST, THIS IS THE STATE HE WON IN 2016. HE WON IT EASILY AS WE TALK ABOUT ALL THE TIME BEATING HILLARY CLINTON. HE WON'T HAVE THAT MARGIN TONIGHT AND NOBODY'S EXPECTING HIM TO HAVE THAT MARGIN. HE IS A NEIGHBORING STATE SENATOR. THEY FEEL LIKE PEOPLE KNOW HIM AND PROVIDES THAT MOMENTUM INTO THE RESULTS TONIGHT. SECONDLY, LOOK AT THE POLLING COMING INTO TONIGHT. THE
POLLING HAD HIM AHEAD EVEN BEYOND THE MARGIN OF ERROR IN THE AVERAGE OF POLLS. THAT WAS RIDING MOMENTUM HE BELIEVES HE HAD COMING OUT OF IOWA. YOU SAW MAYOR PETE MAKE A RUN FOR THAT FIRST PLACE POSITION AT ONE POINT. GOT A LITTLE AGGRESSIVE WITH MAYOR PETE. BEAT HIM BACK TALKING ACT COLLECTING WITH BILLIONAIRES. THAT WAS AN ASSIST TO THEM. AT THE END, WE WILL APPROXIMATE CONTINUING TO WATCH TURNOUT. WHAT HAPPENS AND HOW MANY PEOPLE COME OUT TONIGHT. CHUCK. >> WELL, SHAQ, I KNOW
THE YOUNG VOTER ISSUE, THERE IS SOME CONCERN THAT THIS NEW LAW HERE MAY HAVE STUNTED A LITTLE BIT OF HIS VOTE AND I'M SURE THAT'S SOMETHING THE SANDERS CAMPAIGN IS BOTH NERVOUS ABOUT AND WILL BRING UP TONIGHT THAT THEY'RE NOT HAPPY WITH WHAT THEY'RE SEEING. THAT'S RIGHT. LET'S GET OVER TO PETE BUTTIGIEG. VAUGHN HILLYARD IS WITH PETE. THEY HAVE BEEN FEELING CONFIDENT ALL WEEK LONG. HOW ARE THEY FEELING RIGHT NOW? >> TALKING WITH CAMPAIGN OFFICIALS, CHUCK,
WHAT THEY WANT OUT OF THIS NIGHT IS TO FRAME THIS RACE AS A TWO-PERSON RACE BETWEEN PETE BUTTIGIEG AND BERNIE SANDERS. AND THAT IS WHERE YOU WERE SEEING THE RISE OF AMY KLOBUCHAR. AS THAT WILDCARD CANDIDATE HERE THIS WEEK. WHAT IMPACT DOES SHE HAVE ON PETE BUTTIGIEG'S ELECTORAL COUNT HERE AT THE END OF THE NIGHT? YOU KNOW, FROM WHAT WE HAVE FROM THESE EXIT POLLS THUS FAR, WE ARE NOT ABLE TO SEE THE BREAKDOWN FROM THE -- FOR EACH OF THE CANDIDATES. BUT WHEN YOU'RE LOOKING AT THE
INDEPENDENT VOTERS IN THIS STATE, THAT WAS ONE OF THOSE GROUPS TALKING ABOUT UNDECLARED VOTERS IN THE STATE HERE. THE QUESTION TONIGHT IS HOW MANY WERE GOING TO SHOW UP AT THE POLLS HERE TODAY? FOUR YEARS AGO, THE POINT IS 2016 ON THE DEMOCRATIC SIDE, 40% OF THE DEMOCRATIC TURNOUT WERE INDEPENDENT VOTERS. THIS GO AROUND, IT'S 45%. THIS IS A CAMPAIGN THAT AFTER COMING OUT OF IOWA, ESSENTIALLY IN A TIE WITH BERNIE SANDERS, THEY NEED EITHER A VICTORY OR A NEAR SECOND PLACE FINISH SO
THEY CAN MAKE THAT CASE TO THE REST OF THE COUNTRY THAT, YES, YOU KNOW, AMY KLOBUCHAR MAY STICK AROUND IN THIS RACE. ELIZABETH WARREN MAY STICK AROUND IN THIS RACE. JOE BIDEN MAY BE DOWN TO SOUTH CAROLINA. BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY, IF YOU WANT SOMEBODY WHO IS NOT BERNIE SANDERS, TURN TO PETE BUTTIGIEG. HE CAN WIN. CHUCK. >> WELL, HE NEEDS A SCOREBOARD TO PROVE IT AND THAT'S WHAT WE ARE GOING TO FIND OUT TONIGHT. ALL RIGHT. IN FACT, LET'S GO TO THE PERSON THAT MAY BE
STANDING IN THE WAY OF PETE BUTTIGIEG. MAKING THIS A TWO-PERSON RACE. LET'S CHECK IN WITH AMANDA GOLDEN. SHE IS IN CONCORD WITH THE KLOBUCHAR CAMPAIGN. AND I GOT TO THINK, YOU KNOW, THEY HEAR THE BUZZ. THEY FEEL THE NEWS. I ASSUME THEY'RE PROBABLY THE MOST ANXIOUS OF ANY OF THE TOP THREE CAMPAIGNS THIS -- AT THIS MOMENT. >> THEY'RE DEFINITELY ANXIOUS, CHUCK, BUT FEELING GOOD WHEN I CHECKED IN WITH SENATOR KLOBUCHAR THIS MORNING. I ASKED HER DIRECTLY WHAT SUCCESS
WOULD LOOK LIKE TONIGHT. AND SHE SAID SO LONG AS WE'RE HAPPY AND HAVING A GOOD EVENING, THAT WAS A SUCCESS. TONIGHT, THERE'S A LOT OF MORE MEDIA COVERING HER THAN BACK WHEN I FIRST STARTED COVERING HER IN JUNE. BUT THEY'RE FEELING REALLY GOOD. SHE'S BEEN TRYING TO TARGET SOME OF THE SAME VOTERS BUTTIGIEG HAS. ESSENTIALLY, GOING AFTER MODERATES AND LEFT-LEANING REPUBLICANS, INDEPENDENT VOTERS WHO MIGHT BE MORE DRAWN TO HER MESSAGE. ESSENTIALLY, WHAT FORMER VICE PRESIDENT
JOE BIDEN -- I THINK KLOBUCHAR AND HER CAMPAIGN SEEING A REAL OPPORTUNITY HERE TONIGHT. >> AND AMANDA, ANY INDICATION WHERE SHE'S GOING NEXT? IS SHE GOING TO SOUTH CAROLINA? NEVADA? SUPER-TUESDAY STATE? HAVE THEY MADE ANY INDICATION SORT OF, OKAY, WHERE TO AFTER THIS? >> YES, ABSOLUTELY. SO THEY'RE ALREADY LOOKING PAST NEW HAMPSHIRE WITH THE ANNOUNCEMENT SHE'S GOING TO BE IN NEVADA ON THURSDAY. AND THAT AD BUY, HER CAMPAIGN TELLS ME IS ULTIMATELY GOING TO BE A
SEVEN-FIGURE AD BUY. THEY ARE REALLY GOING ALL IN. A LOT OF STAFF FROM IOWA INTO NEVADA TOTALING JUST OVER 30 STAFFERS ON THE GROUND THERE. NOW, WITH AT LEAST ONE FIELD OFFICE. SO THEY ARE TAKING IT ONE STEP AT A TIME. AS FAR AS WHETHER OR NOT IT'S MAKE OR BREAK FOR A CAMPAIGN, THEY ARE DEFINITELY LOOKING AHEAD. >> ALL RIGHT. AMANDA GOLDEN, GOING TO BE INTERESTING TO CHECK IN THERE. THANK YOU. THE BIDEN CAMPAIGN IS ALREADY BRACING FOR A POTENTIALLY DISAPPOINTING FINISH
TONIGHT. CAMPAIGN ANNOUNCED TODAY THAT BIDEN WOULDN'T EVEN BE IN NEW HAMPSHIRE FOR THE RESULTS. HE SAID HE'S ALREADY IN SOUTH CAROLINA. MARIANA HAS BEEN FOLLOWING THE BIDEN CAMPAIGN. WE GOT ANOTHER REPORTER IN SOUTH CAROLINA WHERE HE IS TONIGHT. HOW MUCH OF A DAMPER DID BIDEN'S EXIT PUT ON WHAT APPARENTLY IS A VERY QUIET BALLROOM THAT YOU ARE IN RIGHT NOW, MARIANA? >> YES, VERY QUIET HERE RIGHT NOW. OF COURSE, THE DOORS HAVEN'T OPENED YET BUT THERE AREN'T THAT
MANY PEOPLE WAITING OUTSIDE IN A MOMENT THAT COULD BASICALLY ENCAPSULATE THE MOOD AND SURPRISE TO MANY VOTERS IS BIDEN'S EARLY DEPARTURE. AT HIS LAST STOP HERE, HE WENT TO A POLLING LOCATION AND ONE VOTER EXCITEDLY TOLD JILL BIDEN I WILL BE AT BIDEN HEADQUARTERS TONIGHT. ARE YOU GOING TO BE THERE? I'M SO EXCITED TO SEE YOU. AND SAID NO I'M ACTUALLY NOT GOING TO BE THERE, WHICH SURPRISED THAT VOTER. THAT HAS BEEN MORE OR LESS THE MOOD OF THE DAY TODAY. YEAH. THAT HAS BEEN
THE MOOD TODAY. A LOT OF SUPPORTERS STILL TURNING OUT TRYING TO SEE BIDEN WHEREVER HE CAN. A LOT OF SUPPORTERS AT THESE POLLING LOCATIONS AND IF THEY DO SEE HIM, VERY EXCITED AND HAPPY AND GLEEFUL TO SEE HIM. HOWEVER, WE HAVEN'T SEEN MUCH OF THAT MOMENTUM HERE. BIDEN, THE FIRST DAY HE TOUCHED DOWN IN NEW HAMPSHIRE, HE SAID I AM SO HAPPY TO LEAVE IOWA. I AM RELIEVED TO BE HERE. BUT OF COURSE, WE SAW HIM LEAVE JUST AS QUICKLY TO SOUTH CAROLINA HERE EARLIER TODAY. SURPRISING NOT ONLY THE
PRESS CORPS BUT AS I MENTIONED, PEOPLE HERE ON THE GROUND. REALLY SHOWS YOU HOW THE CAMPAIGN IS THINKING. IT'S -- IT'S STILL A BIT OF UNCERTAINTY MOVING FORWARD. >> MARIANA, HAVE THEY OPENED THE DOORS? DID THEY OPEN THE DOORS TO THAT BALLROOM? >> NOT YET. >> THERE IS -- OKAY. ALL RIGHT. SO IT'S AN EMPTY BALLROOM BECAUSE THEY HAVEN'T OPENED THE DOORS. >> IT'S STILL AN EMPTY BALLROOM. >> THE INTERNET DOESN'T HAVE TO GO -- OKAY. ALL
RIGHT. I HAVE TO SAY THE EMPTY BALLROOM DID SHOCK US HERE A LITTLE BIT. BUT FAIR ENOUGH. MARIANA, BIDEN NEW HAMPSHIRE HEADQUARTERS WITHOUT THE BIDENS. THANK YOU. AND NOW, THE FIFTH CAMPAIGN WE ARE GOING TO CHECK IN WITH AND IT'S THE WARREN CAMPAIGN. ALI VITALI. ALI, ELIZABETH WARREN'S CAMPAIGN HAS SORT OF GOTTEN LOST IN THIS CONVERSATION OVER THE LAST WEEK. AT THE DEBATE, AMY KLOBUCHAR TOOK ON BUTTIGIEG. AND SHE SORT OF FADED A BIT IN THE BACKGROUND. SHE FINISHED THIRD IN IOWA. BUT
THAT GOT LOST IN THE BIDEN PERFORMANCE. WHERE -- WHAT'S THE MOOD OF THE WARREN CAMPAIGN RIGHT NOW? >> CHUCK, I FEEL LIKE YOU AND I HAVE BEEN TALKING ABOUT THIS ALL WEEK. WHERE DOES ELIZABETH WARREN GO NEXT? AND WE SORT OF GOT ALL IN ONE PLACE THE THREAD THAT I HAVE BEEN REPORTING ON ALL WEEK, WHICH IS THAT THE CAMPAIGN IS LOOKING TO DO A -- TO PLAY IN THIS PROTRACTED PRIMARY. THEY SORT OF BELIEVE AS LONG AS NO ONE RUNS AWAY WITH THIS THING, AS LONG AS WE CONTINUE TO SEE
CONVOLUTED RESULTS OUT OF THESE EARLY CONTESTS, THEY ARE GOING TO BE ABLE TO GO DOWN THE CALENDAR, LET THE FIELD WINNOW, AND THEN EVENTUALLY CAPITALIZE THERE. FOR NOW, THEY ARE HOPING TO SORT OF THRIVE IN THE CHAOS OF WHAT WAS IOWA AND THAT THEY HOPE WILL BE NEW HAMPSHIRE. ON THE OTHER HAND, IN TALKING TO NEW HAMPSHIRE VOTERS, THEY ARE HOPING THAT THEY CAN GIVE A VICTORY TO SOMEONE COMING OUT OF THIS STATE. BUT THE WARREN REALLY HINGES ON THE IDEA A FEW CANDIDATES WILL MAKE IT TO
SUPER-TUESDAY. TO THEM, IF THERE ARE NO SEISMIC SHIFTS IN THIS RACE, THEY SENSE IT'S GOING TO COME DOWN TO WARREN, BIDEN, AND SANDERS ON SUPER-TUESDAY. WE ALSO KNOW MICHAEL BLOOMBERG IS HEAVILY FACTORED INTO SUPER-TUESDAY. THAT'S SORT OF WHEN WE TEST THIS IDEA OF RUN A PARALLEL PRIMARY UP UNTIL SUPER-TUESDAY. A PRETTY EXPENSIVE GAMBLE BUT I'M INTERESTED IN HEARING IF IT WILL PAY OFF. ELIZABETH WARREN, WE MENTIONED THEY HAD GOTTEN A LITTLE BIT LOST IN THE SHUFFLE. THE THING
THAT REALLY IMPACTS IS HOW THEY FUND RAISE. WE KNOW THEY'RE DOING IT OFF OF GRASSROOTS DONATIONS. TO DO IT OFF GRASSROOTS DONATIONS, YOU NEED TO BE IN THE CONVERSATION. SO ONE OF THE THINGS WE ARE SEEING IS THE WAY THAT THEY'RE CHANGING THEIR AD BUYING STRATEGY. I JUST GOT OFF THE PHONE WITH A CAMPAIGN OFFICIAL WHO TOLD ME THEY ARE CANCELLING THE REMAINDER OF THEIR SOUTH CAROLINA TV AD BUY AND INSTEAD PUTTING THAT INTO RADIO AND PRINT IN NORTH CAROLINA AND NEVADA AND MAINE.
AND WHERE THEY THINK THEY CAN PLAY GOING FORWARD, CHUCK. >> VERY INTERESTING ON THE MAIN PLAY. MAINE AND MASSACHUSETTS ARE SUPER-TUESDAY STATES. OBVIOUSLY, SHE WOULD LIKE TO GET MORE THAN JUST WINNING HER HOME STATE ON SUPER-TUESDAY. VERY INTERESTING REPORTING THERE. NICE WORK, ALI VITALI. ALL RIGHT. LET ME GO TO ONE OF THE FIRST POLLING LOCATIONS THAT HAVE ALREADY CLOSED. BEDFORD, NEW HAMPSHIRE. SOME POLLS ARE CLOSING AT 8:00 P.M. SOME PLACES ARE CLOSING AT 7:00 P.M. CHRIS
JANSING, YOU'RE IN BEDFORD. BEDFORD IS THOUGHT TO BE A PLACE THE MORE MODERATE CANDIDATES ARE GOING TO DO WELL. WHAT DID YOU HEAR FROM VOTERS THERE? WHAT DID YOU SEE ALL DAY? >> WELL, IT'S SO INTERESTING BECAUSE THERE WAS A STEADY STREAM OF VOTERS ALL DAY. BUT IT NEVER GOT, WHAT I WOULD CALL, SUPERBUSY. AND I WAS HERE FOUR YEARS AGO AND THERE WERE A LOT OF TIMES WHEN IT WAS SUPERBUSY. YOU CAN SEE THEY'RE JUST DOING THE FINAL TABULATIONS HERE. BUT FOUR YEARS AGO, I MEAN
IT'S A LITTLE BIT OF APPLES AND ORANGES BECAUSE YOU HAD TWO CONTESTED RACES BUT 64% OF VOTERS VOTED IN THE PRIMARY HERE AND WHEN I TALKED TO LONG-TIME POLL WATCHERS, THEY WERE ESTIMATING BETWEEN 60 AND 62%. NOW, THIS IS RALPH. HE'S BEEN DOING THIS FOR 25 YEARS. THE OLD-FASHIONED WAY USING A CALCULATOR. FINAL NUMBER, 41%, RIGHT, RALPH? 41%. SO THEY HAVE GONE FROM 64% TO 41%. COUPLE OBSERVATIONS AFTER TALKING WITH DOZENS, DOZENS LITERALLY OF VOTERS HERE. NUMBER ONE, THIS IS LOT
OF REPUBLICANS HERE. NOT A HUGE REPUBLICAN TURNOUT. BUT WHERE WE DO SEEM TO SEE A BIGGER TURNOUT IS AMONG THE UNAFFILIATED. AND I DID NOT HEAR THIS PERSONALLY, BUT SEVERAL POLL WORKERS TOLD ME QUITE A FEW PEOPLE TOLD ME THAT THEY WENT TO GET A DEMOCRATIC BALLOT BUT DECIDED THAT THEY WERE GOING TO VOTE, ALREADY LONG AGO, FOR DONALD TRUMP IN THE FALL. BUT MAYBE THE BIG HEADLINE HERE IS OF ALL THOSE VOTERS, I WOULD SAY BETWEEN 50 AND 60% TOLD ME THEY DECIDED WITHIN THE LAST 24 HOURS.
I'VE GOT A COUPLE OF THOSE FOLKS HERE WHO WERE NICE ENOUGH TO STICK AROUND. >> HELLO. >> WHAT TIME DID YOU DECIDE WHO YOU WERE GOING TO VOTE FOR? >> 1:00 A.M. LAST NIGHT. >> 1 -- 1:00 IN THE MORNING. YOU STARTED OUT WITH BIDEN. >> YES. >> AND YOU LEFT HIM, WHY? >> I GOT VERY EXCITED ABOUT PETE. >> OKAY. BUT IN THE END, YOU DIDN'T VOTE FOR PETE. >> NO. I WAS PLANNING TO AS OF YESTERDAY. BUT THEN I WAS WATCHING THE RESULTS
FROM WHAT'S HIS NAME KNOX UP THERE AT THE BORDER OF CANADA, NORTHERN NEW HAMPSHIRE WHERE THERE IS THREE LITTLE CITIES. AND THERE WERE TEN VOTES CAST AND FOUR OF THEM WERE FOR ONE CANDIDATE. I SAID, YOU KNOW, I THINK THAT'S THE CANDIDATE I WANT TO GO FOR, TOO. >> SO IN THE END, YOU VOTED FOR AMY KLOBUCHAR BECAUSE SHE GOT FOUR VOTES IN ONE OF THOSE MIDNIGHT POLLING SITES. >> IT WASN'T THE REASON BUT IT WAS KIND OF FUN BECAUSE I WAS LEANING TOWARDS AMY.
>> THANK YOU BOTH SO MUCH. I PROMISED HER I WOULDN'T MAKE HER TALK BUT SHE ALSO DECIDED AT THE LAST MINUTE. THE OTHER REALLY INTERESTING THING I'LL LEAVE YOU WITH, CHUCK, IS THAT WHEN I WAS TALKING TO -- AND ASKED HIM WHY, RIGHT, A NUMBER OF THEM SAID I'M NOT REALLY SURE. >> FASCINATING. WELL, THEY KNOW WHAT PART OF THE PARTY THEY WANT TO VOTE FOR. THEY JUST DIDN'T SEEM TO BE THAT PASSIONATE WHICH CANDIDATE, WHICH IS SOMETHING WE ARE SEEING IN THE EXIT POLLS. YOU
KNOW, A CHUNK OF THOSE VOTERS KNOW WHAT THEY WANT IN A CANDIDATE. AND THEY -- AND IT SOUNDS LIKE THE THREE CANDIDATES THAT HAVE FIT THAT PROFILE, THAT VOTER JUST WAS VACILLATING BETWEEN. HE MAY BE THE NEW HAMPSHIRE PRIMARY VOTER THAT TELLS US THE STORY OF THIS RACE. >> YEAH. THE OTHER THING THAT SURPRISEDMY REALLY QUICKLY IS FOUR VOTERS TOLD ME, INDEPENDENTLY, THAT THEY DIDN'T WANT TO VOTE FOR A SENATOR BECAUSE THEY WERE WORRIED ABOUT HOLDING THE SENATE. SO EVEN THOUGH ALL
OF THEM CONSIDERED THE SENATORS AS THEIR FAVORITE ONE OF THEM, THEY DIDN'T VOTE FOR THEM. >> WELL, THAT'S INTERESTING. THERE IS A DEMOCRATIC GOVERNOR IN MINNESOTA. THERE'S A REPUBLICAN GOVERNOR IN MASSACHUSETTS. ANYWAY, CHRIS JANSING IN BEDFORD. THANKS VERY MUCH. LET'S GO TO TRYMAINE LEE IN NEW HAMPSHIRE. HE IS AT A POLLING LOCATION THERE AND, TRYMAINE, I HAD A LONG-TIME NEW HAMPSHIRE WATCHER TELL ME THIS IS WHAT HE WANTED TO SEE FIRST. SHOW ME KEEN AND HE WILL
HAVE A GOOD IDEA OF HOW GOOD A NIGHT BERNIE SANDERS GOING TO HAVE. >> I TELL YOU WHAT, CHUCK, AS YOU CAN SEE THEY ARE CLEANING UP BEHIND ME. AS THE FAMOUS SAYING GOES, IT'S ALL OVER BUT THE SHOUTING HERE. AS YOU MENTION, SO IMPORTANT BECAUSE THERE'S ONLY 19,000 OR SO PEOPLE HERE. AND THREE COLLEGES. SO IT'S A MAJORITY COLLEGE STUDENTS, YOU KNOW, VOTING DISTRICT. AND FOLKS HAVE BEEN COMING IN ALL DAY FROM STATE COLLEGE AND OTHER UNIVERSITIES. AND I TALKED TO A BUNCH
OF THEM AND WHILE THEY WERE EXCITED, A LOT OF THEM MADE UP THEIR MINDS IN THE LAST FEW DAYS. THEY SAY ALL THE CANDIDATES HAVE NOT ONLY POURED THE TIME AND RESOURCES BUT ALSO MONEY AND EFFORT INTO PUSHING OUT THE VOTE HERE IN KING. I WANT TO BRING OUT ONE KING STATE COLLEGE SOPHOMORE NAMED MAGGIE PHILLIPS. MAGGIE, WE TALK A LOT ABOUT THE YOUTH VOTE. AND IN THE LAST COUPLE WEEKS, THE CANDIDATES HAVE ALL BEEN HERE. HAVE YOU SEEN THAT AFFECT YOUR COLLEGE CLASSMATES AND COLLEAGUES AND HOW
THEY ARE COMING OUT TO VOTE? >> YEAH, ABSOLUTELY. I MEAN, WHEN CANDIDATES COME OUT AND YOU SEE IT PUBLICIZED EVERYWHERE, THERE'S DEFINITELY TURNOUT. THERE IS DEFINITELY A LOT OF TALK. AND ALSO, COLLEGE STUDENTS CAN KIND OF GET AN IDEA OF WHO MAYBE IS GOING TO DO BETTER AND WHO IS GOING TO DO WORSE DEPENDING ON TURNOUT. >> YOU BROUGHT MOST OF YOUR FRIENDS OUT HERE. >> I DID. YEAH. YOUTH VOTING IS VERY IMPORTANT. PEOPLE MY AGE ARE NOW MAKING UP THE LARGEST VOTING
BLOCK SO WE REALLY HAVE THE POWER TO CHANGE THIS AND IT'S NO TIME TO SIT BACK. >> BERNIE WON IN 2016. WHO DID YOU VOTE FOR AND WHY? >> IN 2016, I WASN'T ABLE TO VOTE. BUT TODAY, I VOTED FOR BERNIE SANDERS. WHY? BECAUSE HE IS A WORKING-CLASS HERO. >> AND IF BERNIE IS NOT THE NOMINEE, ARE YOU GOING TO VOTE FOR WHOEVER THE DEMOCRAT IS? >> I HAVE TUNNEL VISION ON -- ON BERNIE SANDERS RIGHT NOW. I WON'T VOTE FOR A CANDIDATE WHO DOES NOT SUPPORT THE GREEN
NEW DEAL AND A COUPLE OTHER FEW STANDARDS BUT WE NEED CHANGE AND WE NEED IT NOW. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THAT'S THE WORD. IF IT'S NOT BERNIE, THEN THERE IS GOING TO BE A LOT OF PEOPLE SCRATCHING THEIR HEADS. BUT A LOT OF FOLKS ALL DAY LONG TALK ABOUT HOW IMPORTANT KING IS, THE YOUTH VOTE WAS CRITICAL. >> YEP. TRYMAINE, LIKE I SAID, KING IS A BIG, BIG, BIG DEAL FOR THE SANDERS CAMPAIGN. TRYMAINE LEE IN KING THERE. SO LET FOLKS NOW ACTUAL RESULTS ARE COMING IN AS WE
SAID, KASIE HUNT. >> WE HAVE RESULTS. >> FIRST OF ALL, BREAKING NEWS. NEW HAMPSHIRE'S COUNTING VOTE AND DELIVERING IT. >> IT'S AMAZING. WE SPENT SO MANY HOURS IN IOWA WITH NONE OF THIS INFORMATION. >> EVERYBODY'S IN TRIPLE DIGITS HERE. NOTHING TO MAKE OF TOO MUCH ON HERE. MARK MURRAY, THE TURNOUT STORY. >> YEAH. >> YOU KNOW, YOU SAW IT. BEDFORD -- BEDFORD IS A WELL-TO-DO PART OF THIS AREA. THERE'S NO REASON FOR THEM NOT TO COME OUT
AND VOTE. WHATEVER THE REASON, AT SOME POINT, DEMOCRATS GOT TO GET NERVOUS ABOUT THIS. IF THIS TURNOUT IS NOT WHAT THEY THOUGHT IT WOULD BE. >> YEAH. OF COURSE, WE'RE PROBABLY NOT GOING TO FIND OUT THE TURNOUT STORY, CHUCK, UNTIL TOMORROW BECAUSE ABOUT 10% OF THE VOTE DOESN'T GET TALLIED UNTIL VERY, VERY LATE. BUT THE NUMBER WE ARE GOING TO BE LOOKING AT IS 290,000. THAT WAS THE RECORD SET IN 20 -- >> FOR A DEMOCRATIC PRIMARY. NOT THE OVERALL. >> CORRECT. THE
SECRETARY OF STATE OF NEW HAMPSHIRE, A VERY WELL-KNOWN FIGURE, HAS USUALLY BEEN VERY ACCURATE ABOUT NEW HAMPSHIRE'S TURNOUT. HE BELIEVES IT WILL EXCEED 2008 ON THE DEMOCRATIC SIDE. SO WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO SEE AND WE WILL BE DIGGING THROUGH THOSE NUMBERS TOMORROW MORNING. >> ADRIENNE, HAS THIS GOT YOU A LITTLE NERVOUS? STILL SOME EXCUSES ABOUT IOWA. OH, THE IMPEACHMENT HEARING. >> LOOK, TURNOUT IS LOWER THAN 2008, EVEN 2016, THAT'S NOT A GOOD THING FOR US. BUT
AGAIN, IT'S EARLY. I'M OPTIMISTIC. >> ALL RIGHT. SO WE'RE GETTING THOSE EARLY RESULTS, AS YOU CAN SEE. THEY'RE VERY EARLY. 1% IN. NOT READY TO CHARACTERIZE YET. LET'S GO TO WHERE KATY TUR IS AND I BELIEVE THOSE POLLS ARE STILL OPEN. NASHWA, HOME TO SOME BOSTON COMMUTERS, SHALL WE SAY. SO IS THAT POLL STATION CLOSED? I GUESS IT IS AROUND YOU. SOME PLACES ARE STILL OPEN. WHAT DO YOU GOT, KATY? >> IT IS ACTUALLY STILL OPEN. 40 MORE MINUTES FOR THIS POLLING
STATION. THERE HAS BEEN A STEADY STREAM OF PEOPLE ALL NIGHT LONG. IT ONLY JUST STARTED TO SLOW DOWN A COUPLE MINUTES AGO RIGHT BEFORE YOU CAME TO ME. AND EVERYBODY TRICKLED OUT. BUT THERE ARE STILL SOME -- KIDDING -- THERE ARE STILL SOME VOTERS WHO ARE PICKING UP THEIR BALLOTS. THEY WILL VOTE. IT'S EMPTY RIGHT NOW. BUT ALL NIGHT LONG, THERE HAVE BEEN NEW VOTERS REGISTERING TO VOTE. I'M GOING TO BE CURIOUS, AT LEAST HERE, IF NOT BROADER ACROSS THE STATE, HOW MANY NEW VOTERS
REGISTERED BECAUSE WE SAW A TON OF THEM HERE TONIGHT. SO FAR, TURNOUT HERE IS BASICALLY ON PAR WITH WHAT THEY EXPECTED. IT MIGHT BE A LITTLE BIT MORE THAN ANTICIPATED. WE'RE NOT ALLOWED TO TALK TO ANYBODY INSIDE SO WE'RE GOING TO GO OUTSIDE AND SEE IF THERE MIGHT BE SOMEBODY LINGERING OUTSIDE. CROSS YOUR FINGERS. IT'S WET AND RAINY. SHE'S WALKING IN SO I CAN'T ASK HER WHO SHE IS VOTING FOR. WE'RE GOING TO HANG OUT FOR ONE SEC AND SEE IF SOMEBODY CAN COME OUT. YOU
GUYS WERE TALKING ABOUT THE INABILITY OF PEOPLE TO CHOOSE WHICH CANDIDATE THEY WANTED TO VOTE FOR. I'VE BEEN TALKING TO A LOT OF FOLKS WHO SAID THEY MADE THE DECISION AT THE VERY LAST MINUTE. IT'S SOMETHING OF A PARALYSIS OF CHOICE. SO MANY DIFFERENT OPTIONS. AND WHEN THEY LOOK AT EVERYBODY THAT IS AVAILABLE TO THEM TO VOTE FOR, THEY ARE TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHO'S GOING TO BE THE MOST ELECTABLE TO DONALD TRUMP. AND THAT KIND OF HAS THEM FROZEN IN THEIR TRACKS. TRYING TO
FIGURE OUT IF IT'S A JOE BIDEN BUT THEN HE STARTED TO NOT DO SO WELL IN IOWA AND THE POLLS DIDN'T LOOK SO GREAT FOR HIM IN NEW HAMPSHIRE. AMY KLOBUCHAR, WHO DID VERY WELL IN THE DEBATE ON FRIDAY. I TALKED TO A LOT OF PEOPLE WALKING INTO THIS POLLING PLACE, ALSO THE ONE IN BEDFORD, WHO SAID THAT THEY LIKED HER DEBATE PERFORMANCE AND MADE THE DECISION TO VOTE FOR HER EITHER ON FRIDAY OR EVEN LAST NIGHT, INTO THIS MORNING. BERNIE SANDERS, MOST OF HIS VOTERS, THOUGH, HAVE LIKED HIM
FOR A LONG TIME NOW. MANY OF THEM, SINCE 2016. CHUCK, I LIKEN IT TO THIS. IT'S LIKE GOING INTO CAFE VERSAILLES IN MIAMI, OPENING UP THE MENU, AND TRYING TO DECIDE WHAT TO ORDER. THERE ARE JUST TOO MANY OPTIONS. SO SOME DEMOCRATS ARE SAYING IT'S HARD TO MAKE A CHOICE. THEY ARE GOING TO VOTE FOR WHOEVER THE DEMOCRATIC NOMINEE IS. AND SOME OF THEM JUST WANT THE PARTY TO MAKE A DECISION FOR THEM. >> GIVE ME THE PREFIX MEAL IS WHAT YOU ARE SAYING. JUST TELL ME -- I'LL PICK
MY DESSERT AND THAT'S ABOUT IT. I GOT YA. KATY TUR IN NASHWA FOR US WITH A LITTLE BIT OF MENU INDECISION. WE GOT A LOT MORE COMING. WE GOT RESULTS COMING. THERE'S GOING TO BE MORE AHEAD. WE GOT MORE EXIT POLLS. TELL YOU EVEN MORE ABOUT THIS ELECTORATE. THAT'S COMING. POLLS CLOSE AT THE TOP OF THE HOUR. WE DO EXPECT TO BE ABLE TO HAVE A CHARACTERIZATION OF WHAT KIND OF NIGHT WE'RE IN FOR WHEN THAT HAPPENS. YOU ARE WATCHING NBC'S SPECIAL COVERAGE OF THE NEW HAMPSHIRE
PRESIDENTIAL PRIMARY ONLY ON NBC "NEWS NOW." ♪♪ >>> WE'VE GOT THE FUNDAMENTAL THING ABOUT HUMAN BEINGS AND THEN WE'VE GOT THE WAY WE CONSTITUTE OUR POLITICS. AND THE DANGER IS THAT IF OUR POLITICS GROW TOO TRIBAL, IT WILL LOSE -- >> WHY IS THIS HAPPENING WITH CHRIS HAYES. SUBSCRIBE NOW. SUBSCRIBE NOW. >>> WE ARE BACK WITH NBC NEWS SPECIAL COVERAGE OF THE NEW HAMPSHIRE PRESIDENTIAL PRIMARY. RESULTS ARE COMING IN. WE'RE AT 3% REPORTING, I
BELIEVE. MY PANEL IS WITH ME NOW. PARTNER HERE FOR THE NIGHT, KASIE HUNT. CAPITOL HILL CORRESPONDENT. SENIOR POLITICAL EDITOR MARK MURRAY. ADRIENNE ELROD. I GOT JOSHUA JOHNSON, WHO IS HOLDING DOWN THE FORT IN NEW YORK. AND FORMER OBAMA CAMPAIGN MANAGER AND NOW NBC NEWS POLITICAL ANALYST DAVID. SO I WANTED TO HAVE A CONVERSATION, GUYS, I'M GOING TO ROLL OVER HERE. I'M LUCKY I CAN JUST ROLL TO THE SCREEN. HI. AND WE'RE GOING TO DO SOME -- WE'RE GOING TO DO SOME -- WE'RE
GOING TO DO SOME PARTY CHECKS HERE OF WHAT WE SAW. I THINK THE MOST INTERESTING THING IN HOW THESE ELECTORATES HAVE CHANGED -- HERE'S THE IDEOLOGY OF THIS ELECTORATE, KASIE HUNT. 41%, SOMEWHAT LIBERAL. 21%, VERY LIBERAL. LET ME JUST SHOW YOU THE 2016 IDEOLOGY. VERY LIBERAL, 26. LAST TIME -- THIS TIME, 21. THAT FIVE-POINT DIFFERENCE, NOT GOOD -- NOT GREAT NEWS IF YOU'RE BERNIE SANDERS. >> NOT -- NO. AND I'M -- I THINK, YOU KNOW, THE BIG QUESTION I THINK SHAPING UP
TONIGHT IS WHERE DOES THAT NEW CHUNK OF MODERATES/CONSERVATIVES GO? I MEAN, I THINK THERE ARE A LOT OF QUESTIONS COMING IN TONIGHT, WAS THE AMY KLOBUCHAR MOMENTUM REAL? WHERE WAS PETE BUTTIGIEG IN THE MIX? AND SO I THINK THAT HOW THOSE -- THOSE VOTERS IN THAT MODERATE/CONSERVATIVE BLOCK BREAK DOWN POTENTIALLY ANSWERS THOSE QUESTIONS. AND YOU'RE RIGHT. I THINK IT'S OBVIOUSLY PRETTY CLEAR THERE'S A MUCH DIFFERENT FIELD THAN 2016 WHEN BERNIE SANDERS REALLY RAN AWAY WITH
THIS. >> ADRIENNE ELROD, THE WAY YOU GUYS WON PRIMARY IN 2016 WAS WINLING -- DOMINATING IN THE MODERATE CONSERVATIVE VOTE. >> YEP. >> AND THE PRIMARIES YOU WON. SO 79% OF THIS ELECTORATE IS BASICALLY IN THE SOMEWHAT LIBERAL, MODERATE LANE. FOUR YEARS AGO, IT WAS 74. AGAIN, THERE'S THAT FIVE-POINT DIFFERENCE HERE. WHAT DOES THIS TELL YOU ABOUT WHAT THE PARTY WANTS? >> WELL, I THINK IT MEANS THAT THE PARTY DOES HAVE CONCERNS ABOUT BEING TOO LIBERAL. THERE IS
SUCH A CONCERN AMONG VOTERS TO GET THE RIGHT HORSE IN THIS RACE. SEEING THIS TIME AND TIME AGAIN. I THINK THAT'S ONE OF THE REASONS WHY THE POLLS IN SO MANY STATES -- YOU KNOW, SIGNIFICANTLY UNDECIDED. A LOT OF UNDECIDED VOTERS OUT THERE. THERE ARE A LOT OF UNDECIDED VOTERS UNTIL THAT LAST DEBATE WHERE AMY KLOBUCHAR HAD A VERY STRONG PERFORMANCE. SO PEOPLE ARE CONCERNED. THEY WANT TO PICK THE RIGHT HORSE. YOU KNOW, WE'RE SORT OF BATTLING TWO IDEOLOGIES IN OUR PARTY. IN FACT, THE
ONE, MORE BERNIE SANDERS IDEOLOGY PART OF THE WING -- THE PARTY WANTS TO DO -- WANTS TO MOVE FORWARD. WANTS TO IMPLEMENT THE GREEN NEW DEAL. THEN WE GOT THE MORE MODERATE WING OF THE PARTY THAT WANTS TO KEEP THE STATUS QUO AND JUST IMPROVE UPON CURRENT POLICIES. AND THAT'S ONE OF THE BATTLES AT THE HEART AND SOUL OF THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY RIGHT NOW. >> ARE YOU SURPRISED ONLY ONE IN FIVE DEMOCRATIC VOTERS HERE CALL THEMSELVES VERY LIBERAL? IT WAS A LOWER NUMBER THAN I EXPECTED.
>> NO, BUT I'M ALSO CURIOUS AND I DON'T THINK THERE IS ANY WAY FOR US TO KNOW THIS, I'M CURIOUS ABOUT WHETHER VOTERS ARE TELLING US WHETHER THEY ARE LIBERAL OR WHETHER THEY WANT TO SEEM LIBERAL. BASED ON THE POLLING RESULTS. I MEAN, I PUT OUT A CALL ON MY FACEBOOK PAGE ASKING IF YOU'RE IN NEW HAMPSHIRE, TELL ME WHO YOU ARE AND WHO YOU VOTED FOR AND WHY. AND A NUMBER OF PEOPLE SAID PETE BUTTIGIEG, ELIZABETH WARREN. ONE PERSON, LEXIE WHO IS IN SOUTHERN NEW HAMPSHIRE,
SAID SHE VOTED SOLIDLY FOR ELIZABETH WARREN, SUPPORTED ELIZABETH WARREN FROM THE BEGINNING. SAID JOE BIDEN WAS A TOUGH SECOND. BUT IN TERMS OF ELECTABILITY, I DO THINK HE MAY END UP BEING THE NOMINEE SINCE HE CAN PULL VOTERS IN SOUTH CAROLINA, GEORGIA, PENNSYLVANIA, AND OHIO. AND THEY NEED SOME OF THE OBAMA TRUMP VOTERS AND DISAFFECTED REPUBLICAN. SO WHAT I AM WONDERING IS WHETHER OR NOT THESE VOTERS ARE JUST TELLING US THAT THEY ARE LESS LIBERAL. OR THEY ARE WORRIED ABOUT BEING ABLE
TO RECLAIM TRUMP VOTERS. THAT -- THAT SEEMS TO BE THE -- TRUMP SEEMS TO HAVE THE MOST POWER IN THIS PRIMARY RIGHT NOW. NOT NECESSARILY DEMOCRATIC VOTERS AND PERHAPS FOR THAT REASON. >> I DON'T DISAGREE, ESPECIALLY IN THESE EARLY STATES, THEY THINK VERY STRATEGICALLY. DAVID, I PUT UP ON THE SCREEN THE IMPORTANCE OF THE MOST RECENT DEBATE IN YOUR VOTE TODAY. 48% OF THE ELECTORATE CALLED IT AN IMPORTANT FACTOR WITH 16% SAYING THE MOST IMPORTANT FACTOR. YOU WERE ON THE WRONG
END OF THE DEBATE MOMENT THAT COST YOU THE NEW HAMPSHIRE PRIMARY. ARE YOU HAVING FLASHBACKS? >> THAT, AMONG MANY OTHER THINGS, YEAH. YEAH. I AM HAVING FLASHBACKS. BUT I WILL SAY THIS, CHUCK. AND, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE OBVIOUSLY, YOU KNOW, MODERATING THE DEBATE NEXT WEEK. I THINK THAT WILL BE IMPORTANT. PROBABLY NOT AS IMPORTANT AS NEW HAMPSHIRE. FOLKS IN NEW HAMPSHIRE REALLY TUNE IN. THE SOUTH CAROLINA DEBATE'S HISTORICALLY BEEN IMPORTANT NOT THAT IT'S LESS IMPORTANT.
THAT'S THE ONE THING I REALLY WANT TO REINFORCE TONIGHT. YOU KNOW, BERNIE SANDERS WIN, THAT'S WHAT WE EXPECT. IF HE GETS UPSET, THAT WILL HURT HIM BUT HE'S GOT DURABILITY TO GO ON. MAYOR PETE AND AMY KLOBUCHAR COME OUT OF NEW HAMPSHIRE WITH MOMENTUM, THEY'D MUCH RATHER HAVE IT THAN NOT. BUT THE QUESTION IS HOW DO THEY PUT TOGETHER THE KIND OF CAMPAIGN RESOURCES? YOU KNOW, THEY'RE NOT GOING TO SPEND TIME IN ARIZONA OR MISSOURI OR TEXAS OR CALIFORNIA BEYOND AIRPORT
STOPS BASICALLY. THEY DON'T HAVE THE MONEY. SO THIS IS WHERE I THINK BERNIE SANDERS IS STILL -- BECAUSE YOU KNOW HE IS GOING TO GET 20, 25, 27% OF THE VOTE, MOST LIKELY, UNLESS HE COMPLETELY FALLS APART BETWEEN NOW AND SUPER-TUESDAY. AND SO I THINK THAT'S THE QUESTION IS, IS SOMEBODY GOING TO EMERGE AS THE PERSON WHO'S EITHER BEATING HIM IN SOME STATES IN CONGRESSIONAL DISTRICTS? BECAUSE IF NOT, HE COULD WALK OUT OF SUPER-TUESDAY WITH A DELEGATE LEAD HE'S NEVER GOING
TO GIVE UP. >> MARK MURRAY, GIVE ME THE STATE OF THE CAMPAIGN SUPER-TUESDAY. IF WE ARE WORKING WITH THE THREE OUT OF HERE BEING KLOBUCHAR, BUTTIGIEG, AND SANDERS, WE KNOW SANDERS HAS OPERATIONS EVERYWHERE. WHAT ABOUT BUTTIGIEG AND KLOBUCHAR? >> LET ME START WITH THE PEOPLE ON THE BALLOT HERE IN NEW HAMPSHIRE. MICHAEL BLOOMBERG. SO RIGHT NOW, OUTSIDE MUCH BERNIE SANDERS, CERTAINLY ALREADY ADVERTISING THESE SUPER-TUESDAY STATES. THEN AFTER THAT, IT WOULD ACTUALLY BE
ELIZABETH WARREN WHO WOULD ACTUALLY HAVE THE WHEREWITHAL TO ACTUALLY COMPETE. IT'S ONE OF THE THINGS HER CAMPAIGN WAS TALKING ABOUT IN THE MEMO THEY RELEASED TODAY SAYING, HEY, ONE OF THE REASONS WE MAY ACTUALLY BE A BETTER CHOICE THAN AMY KLOBUCHAR IS WE HAVE THE ORGANIZATION TO COMPETE ON SUPER-TUESDAY. THEN, CHUCK, IT WOULD BE PETE BUTTIGIEG PROBABLY IN THIRD ON AN ORGANIZATIONAL FRONT. BUT THEN OUTSIDE OF THOSE CANDIDATES ON THE BALLOT HERE, MICHAEL BLOOMBERG HAS A REALLY BIG
ORGANIZATION THAT HE HAS. BUT ALSO, IT'S IMPORTANT, DAVID -- ONE THING THAT DAVID WAS JUST MENTIONING ABOUT THE DELEGATE HALLS YOU CAN END UP HAVING. WHAT I AM WANTING TO SEE ONCE WE GET TO SUPER-TUESDAY IS BERNIE SANDERS AT 25, 30%? OR IS HE STARTING TO GET 35, 40, 45%? BECAUSE THE DELEGATE SPLIT THAT YOU END UP GETTING IS REALLY IMPORTANT. IF YOU END UP HAVING A SITUATION WHERE ONE CANDIDATE'S AT 28%. ANOTHER CANDIDATE'S AT 25%. AND THE OTHER CANDIDATE'S AT 22%.
THEY'RE ALL PRETTY MUCH GOING TO END UP WITH THE SAME NUMBER OF DELEGATES. >> BY THE WAY, WE COULD HAVE A THREE-WAY TIE FOR DELEGATES TONIGHT, RIGHT? >> WHEN WE LOST NEW HAMPSHIRE, WE SPLIT THE VOTES WITH HILLARY. I THINK THERE IS A SCENARIO WHERE 28, 26, 22 BUT THERE IS ALSO A SCENARIO WHERE SAY BERNIE SANDERS IS AT 25, 26. AND YOU HAVE BLOOMBERG, BIDEN, KLOBUCHAR, BUTTIGIEG, AND WARREN ALL GETTING 8, 10, 12, 15, 16. THERE IS A SCENARIO WHERE BERNIE SANDERS COULD BUILD A
DELEGATE LEAD AND NEVER GIVES UP. IF HE DOESN'T GET INTO THE 30s. BUT THAT'S WHY WHO STAYS IN AND AT WHAT STRENGTH IS SO IMPORTANT GOING FORWARD. >> CHUCK, I THINK THE FRAME HERE IS ALL OF THE REST OF THE NON-BERNIE SANDERS CANDIDATES ARE WANTING TO BE THE ALTERNATIVE TO BERNIE SANDERS IN THE FIRST PLACE. IN THE SECOND PLACE, BERNIE SANDERS RAN A DELEGATE CAMPAIGN ONCE BEFORE. I WAS -- THEY ALSO HAVE BEEN TO ALL OF THESE STATES BEFORE. I MEAN, BERNIE SANDERS HAS, YOU KNOW,
BEEN IN OKLAHOMA AND IDAHO AND ARIZONA. TRYING TO THINK WHAT OTHER PLACES I NEVER THOUGHT I WOULD TRAVEL TO ON A PRESIDENTIAL CAMPAIGN WHERE WE WENT WITH BERNIE SANDERS AS HE WAS RUNNING AGAINST HILLARY CLINTON. SO, YOU KNOW, THIS IS AN ORGANIZATION THAT KNOWS HOW TO DO THAT. AND, YOU KNOW, FRANKLY, THE FACT THAT HE RAN AGAINST HILLARY CLINTON LAST NIGHT, IT WAS A SINGLE TWO-PERSON RACE, I MEAN, THAT'S WHY HE LOCKET. IN THIS KIND OF FIELD, I DON'T KNOW, I DON'T THINK YOU
GIVE BERNIE SANDERS ENOUGH CREDIT. >> JOSHUA JOHNSON, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU CAUGHT TRYMAINE LEE'S INTERVIEW. HOW WOULD YOU ADVISE THE MODERATES TO REACH OUT TO BERNIE? AND THEN HOW WOULD YOU ADVISE THE BERNIE PEOPLE TO REACH OUT TO THE MODERATES? >> OH, BOY. THEY DON'T PAY ME ENOUGH FOR THAT KIND OF ADVICE. BUT I WOULDN'T QUESTION, FOR EXAMPLE, ONE OF THE -- THE BIG TACTICS THAT KIND OF CAME OUT OF THE DEBATE ON FRIDAY IS TRYING TO GIVE BERNIE THIS SCARLET
LETTER, THIS S FOR SOCIALIST. I'M WONDERING IF THAT COULD BACKFIRE BECAUSE THINK ABOUT IT. WE GOT ALL THESE MODERATE CANDIDATES SAYING BERNIE SANDERS IS UNELECTABLE. AND THEN SAYING THIS WHOLE SOCIALIST THING IS TOO MUCH. WHAT IF HE BECOMES THE NOMINEE? YOU GOING TO EAT THOSE WORDS? DID YOU MEAN THAT THEN? DO YOU NOT MEAN IT NOW? I MEAN, WHAT DO YOU DO? THE FACT THAT SO MANY OF THE CANDIDATES ARE TRYING TO COME AFTER BERNIE SANDERS, I UNDERSTAND WHY. I'M JUST NOT SURE, A, THEY
MIGHT HAVE TO EAT THOSE WORDS LATER. AND, B, IF THAT'S NOT PART OF THIS DEBATE THAT'S BEEN GOING ON SINCE 2016. RIGHT? WHAT DOES THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY WANT TO BE STARTING ON INAUGURATION DAY TO PREPARE ITSELF TO MAKE DONALD TRUMP A ONE-TERM PRESIDENT? MAYBE DEMOCRATS WANT TO BE THE PARTY OF BERNIE SANDERS. BUT THEY DON'T THINK THAT BERNIE IS ELECTABLE ENOUGH. BUT IT'S WHO THEY REALLY WANT TO BE BUT WE CAN'T WIN WITH HIM BUT IT'S WHO WE BELIEVE IN. AND THAT TENSION IS
KIND OF WHAT I'M INTERESTED TO SEE PLAY OUT NOT JUST IN NEW HAMPSHIRE BUT ESPECIALLY IN NEVADA AND SOUTH CAROLINA. >> DAVID, EIGHT -- 12 YEARS AGO, YOU HAD THE BERNIE SANDERS VOTERS WERE EXCITED ENOUGH ABOUT BARACK OBAMA AND THEY ALMOST TREATED HIM AS THEY ASSUMED HE AGREED WITH THEM ON EVERYTHING. THESE VOTERS, THIS TIME, ARE -- YEAH. THIS TIME, THERE SEEMS TO BE -- THEY'RE NOT GIVING THE BENEFIT OF THE DOUBT TO ANYBODY ELSE. >> NO. I MEAN, LISTEN. AT THE END OF
THE DAY, I THINK IF BERNIE SANDERS IS THE NOMINEE, I THINK WHAT THESE CANDIDATES WILL SAY IS LISTEN, I THOUGHT I WAS THE BETTER CANDIDATE. I'M ALL IN FOR BERNIE. YOU KNOW, AT THE END OF THE DAY, IF WE LOSE THE ELECTION, I DOUBT IT'S FOR THAT REASON. BY THE WAY, KASIE, THERE IS A CAUCUS. IF YOU HAVEN'T BEEN THERE, MAYBE YOU CAN GET THERE. >> THAT WOULD BE A GREAT TRIP. >> THREE PLANE CHANGES. ONE MAY BE IN THE MID-AIR IN THE PACIFIC. >> SO YEAH. I THINK -- I
-- I JUST WANT TO EMPHASIZE HOW MUCH THE RACE DOES CHANGE AFTER THIS. WE KNOW IT CHANGES IN NEVADA AND SOUTH CAROLINA. BUT THESE CANDIDATES AREN'T GOING TO BE ABLE TO BE ON THE GROUND, RIGHT? AND SO ORGANIZATION DOES MATTER, PARTICULARLY IN SMALLER STATES. LISTEN. YOU COULD HAVE 10,000 PEOPLE IN CALIFORNIA AND TEXAS WHERE I THINK ORGANIZATION MATTERS LESS THAN MOMENTUM AND MONEY. BUT YOU LOOK AT THESE POLLS TODAY. EVEN IF AMY KLOBUCHAR AND MAYOR PETE WENT INTO MARCH IN THE 20s, WHICH
I DON'T THINK THEY BOTH WOULD, AND YOU HAD BLOOMBERG TO THE MIX AND BIDEN AND WARREN ARE STILL IN THERE. I AGREE WITH KASIE, I THINK BERNIE SANDERS' STOCK IS UNDER APPRECIATED RIGHT NOW AND I THINK THE WAY HE DOES NOT ENTER MARCH AS A FRONT-RUNNER IS IF SOMEBODY EMERGES FOR TWO CANDIDATES. SO IF YOU ARE SPLITTING THINGS UP BASICALLY 25-26. WHAT THAT MEANS IS WE MIGHT HAVE A DELEGATE LEADER THAT'S CLEAR. >> RIGHT. KASIE HUNT, WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT FREE CAMPAIGNS
A LOT. >> THE BEAUTY OF NEW HAMPSHIRE FOR THIS. >> THAT'S RIGHT. BUT THERE IS TWO CANDIDATES WE HAVEN'T TALKED ABOUT YET. AND I THINK, TWO WEEKS AGO, IF I SAID IT HAD TAKEN 40 MINUTES FOR US TO TALK ABOUT ELIZABETH WARREN AND JOE BIDEN, IT'D BE LIKE WHAT THE HECK HAPPENED TO THE NEW HAMPSHIRE PRIMARY? >> ALWAYS SURPRISES US AND, YOU KNOW, THE PEOPLE, THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE THAT MADE THEIR DECISION THE LAST FEW DAYS, 48% OF THE VOTERS. IT'S HALF OF THE
VOTERS, WHICH IS WAY UP FROM THE QUARTER OF THEM THAT DECIDED AT THE LAST SECOND IN 2016. REALLY SHOWS YOU THAT THE CONTOURS OF THIS CAMPAIGN, THE EVENTS, THE PIECES OF IT THAT SEEM TO FLY BY, THEY ACTUALLY MATTER OR THEY CAN MATTER. AND, YOU KNOW, PETE BUTTIGIEG, AMY KLOBUCHAR, I DON'T THINK WE WOULD HAVE, YOU KNOW, NONE OF US WERE SITTING HERE A YEAR AGO SAYING THOSE WERE THE TWO PEOPLE WE WOULD BE TALKING ABOUT ON NEW HAMPSHIRE PRIMARY NIGHT. >> ADRIENNE ELROD, ON THE
CLINTON CAMPAIGN, YOU GUYS HADN'T WON YET. YOU WERE GOING TO HAVE A MAJOR CASH PROBLEM. SUDDENLY, YOU WERE OUT OF CASH AND YOU SUDDENLY HAD TO BECOME A SMALL-DOLLAR CAMPAIGN AND YOU DID. >> YEAH. >> JOE BIDEN NEEDS THAT KIND OF SURPRISE. THE EARLY RETURNS AREN'T SHOWING IT. OBVIOUSLY, HE DOESN'T FEEL IT. YOU SHARED THOSE SAME DONORS WITH JOE BIDEN. DONORS. THEY GO WITH WINNERS. THEY DON'T GO WITH LOYALTY, DO THEY? >> WELL, EXACTLY. I DON'T THINK
IT'S GOING TO BE 2008 FOR JOE BIDEN. IF IT WAS, JOE BIDEN -- WE -- WE -- WE WON NEW HAMPSHIRE, OBVIOUSLY. 2016 WAS A DISMAL TIME FOR HILLARY CLINTON IN THIS STATE. WE GOT OUT OF HERE PRETTY QUICKLY AND WE WERE, YOU KNOW, LAYING OUT EXPECTATIONS FOR NEVADA AND SOUTH CAROLINA. I DON'T THINK WE'RE GOING TO SEE THE SAME THING FOR JOE BIDEN TONIGHT WHERE HE'S GOING TO HAVE SOME MAJOR COMEBACK GOING FORWARD. PEOPLE ARE STARTING TO LOOK AT AMY KLOBUCHAR AND PETE BUTTIGIEG TO
SORT OF TAKE ON THAT MORE MODERATE MANTEL. AND BY THE WAY, I WANT TO ADD I AM STARTING TO GET A LOT OF TEXT MESSAGES FROM MY FRIENDS ON DIFFERENT CAMPAIGNS SAYING DON'T FORGET IF AMY KLOBUCHAR DOES WELL TONIGHT, SHE DOESN'T HAVE THE INFRASTRUCTURE TO GO FORWARD SOME SUPER-TUESDAY STATES LIKE ELIZABETH WARREN. JUST KEEP IN MIND SHE DOESN'T HAVE THE GROUNDWORK HEAVILY INVESTED ON THE GROUND. ALREADY STARTING TO HEAR FROM CAMPAIGN SAYING IF SHE DOES WELL, THIS MAY BE IT. VERY
INTERESTING. >> I THINK WE HAVE DAVE WASSERMAN NOW WITH US, WHO OF COURSE IS OF THE KOCH POLITICAL REPORT. MR. WASSERMAN, YOU ARE SEEING THE RAW RETURNS COME IN. AND I KNOW HOW -- WHAT HAVE YOU LEARNED SO FAR FROM SOME OF THE SITES THAT HAVE ALREADY REPORTED? >> WELL, WE'RE LOOKING TOWN BY TOWN, CHUCK. PARDON FOR MY VOICE. BUT SO FAR, TWO THINGS STAND OUT TO ME. FIRST, THE KLOBUCHAR SURGE IS REAL. WE ARE SEEING AMY KLOBUCHAR -- SHE WON PRECINCTS IN CONCORD SO FAR. SHE
IS UNLIKELY TO COME IN FIRST. BUT -- BUT THAT IS SIGNIFICANT. AND THE SECOND THING THAT I'M NOTICING IS HOW FAR BACK ELIZABETH WARREN AND JOE BIDEN ARE. IT'S UNCLEAR, AT THE MOMENT, WHETHER THEY'LL EVEN FINISH IN DOUBLE DIGITS. AND I DON'T THINK WE'RE EXPECTING THE SIZE OF THE THREAD BETWEEN THE TOP THREE AND THOSE TWO TO BE SO LARGE. >> I WAS JUST GOING TO SAY THAT IS PROBABLY THE -- THE -- GOING TO BE ONE OF THE OTHER STORIES TONIGHT. AND YOU HATE TO SAY
THIS, WHICH MEANS THE -- THIS ORDER -- THE ORDER OF THE TOP THREE MATTERS A LITTLE BIT BECAUSE THERE'S GOING TO BE -- ONE STORY OUT OF HERE IS GOING TO BE THE NEGATIVE NARRATIVE STORY FOR THE TWO CANDIDATES YOU JUST MENTIONED. WARREN AND BIDEN. >> AND IN THE LAST COUPLE DAYS OF THE RACE, WHICH MAY BE CONTRIBUTING TO WE'RE SEEING TONIGHT. >> KASIE HUNT. JOE BIDEN'S ABOUT TO GO THROUGH THE WORST PART OF THIS WHEN HE -- HOW LONG YOU STAYING IN? WHAT DO YOU HAVE
TO DO? >> 18 DAYS FROM NOW TO SOUTH CAROLINA. IT IS GOING TO BE POTENTIALLY EXCRUCIATING IF THESE EARLY NUMBERS ARE ANY INDICATION OF WHERE WE'RE GOING TO END UP BY THE END OF THE NIGHT. AND I THINK HIS DECISION, YOU KNOW, WE WERE ALL A LITTLE SHOCKED THAT HE ANNOUNCED HE WAS LEAVING NEW HAMPSHIRE BEFORE THE POLLS EVEN CLOSED. BUT PEOPLE SAID THAT THAT WAS A BAD DECISION. BUT ON THE OTHER HAND, IF ANYONE HAS BEEN TO HIS EVENTS, IT MAKES TOTAL SENSE BECAUSE THE ISSUE IS --
SOUTH CAROLINA, I MEAN, THEY HAVE PUT EVERYTHING ON THAT. INSTEAD, WE CAN DO WELL THERE. WE CAN DO WELL THERE. YOU KNOW, I'M NOT CONVINCED AND SOME OF THE NUMBERS WE'VE SEEN AMONG AFRICAN-AMERICAN VOTERS IN PARTICULAR, POTENTIALLY SHIFTING THEIR SUPPORT AROUND, I'M REALLY INTERESTED TO KNOW WHERE THEY GO AFTER SEEING THESE RESULTS TONIGHT. >> BY THE WAY, SOME OF THE POLLING IS SHOWING ME -- JOSHUA JOHNSON, ARE YOU STILL WITH ME? I THINK WE LOST JOSHUA TO THE MSNBC SIDE
OF THINGS. BUT -- OH, THERE YOU ARE. JOSHUA, SORRY ABOUT THAT. WHAT I'VE NOTICED WITH THE AFRICAN-AMERICAN VOTE SINCE THE BIDEN COLLAPSE BEGAN IS IT'S SUDDENLY GOING TO BREAK, LIKE, THE WHITE DEMOCRATIC VOTE. ON CLASS LINES. ON AGE LINES. LIKE, THIS ISN'T GOING TO BE A RACIAL VOTE PER SE AT THIS POINT. WHAT'S YOUR THOUGHT ON THAT? >> MAYBE. I MEAN, I -- I DON'T KNOW. THERE IS, OF COURSE, A KIND OF OBAMA HALO AROUND JOE BIDEN, WHICH WE KNOW. AND I THINK
THAT'S A LARGE REASON -- A LARGE FACTOR IN TERMS OF WHY HE'S BEEN POLLING VERY STRONGLY WITH AFRICAN-AMERICANS. IN FACT, THAT IS ALSO A REASON WHY I FEEL LIKE NEW HAMPSHIRE NEEDS TO BE KEPT IN PERSPECTIVE AS A DATA POINT THAT DOESN'T NECESSARILY SHOW THE TOTAL -- THE -- THE TOTALITY OF THE DEMOCRATIC VOTING BASE. BECAUSE IF NEW HAMPSHIRE IS THE DETERMINANT FACTOR IN WHO'S IN OR OUT, THEN BLACK VOTERS MUST NOT BE THAT IMPORTANT BECAUSE WHY WORRY ABOUT SOUTH CAROLINA?
IF NEW HAMPSHIRE'S THE DETERMINANT FACTOR, THEN UNION VOTERS MUST NOT BE SO IMPORTANT BECAUSE WHY WORRY ABOUT NEVADA? AND WE KNOW THE CULINARY UNION, WHICH HAS 65,000 MEMBERS REPRESENTED IN ITS SYSTEM HAS CONCERNS ABOUT MEDICARE FOR ALL. THEY HAVEN'T COME OUT AND SAID DON'T VOTE FOR BERNIE SANDERS OR ELIZABETH WARREN. SO IF BLACK VOTERS ARE INDEED IMPORTANT, THEN NEW HAMPSHIRE HAS TO BE KEPT IN PERSPECTIVE. AND WE HAVE TO ALLOW THIS TO BE ONE DATA POINT AMONG AT LEAST
THREE. NEW HAMPSHIRE, NEVADA, SOUTH CAROLINA. THAT WILL HELP US MAKE A LITTLE MORE SENSE OF HOW THE WHOLE DEMOCRATIC PARTY MIGHT VOTE. >> AND VERY QUICKLY, MARK MURRAY, THE TOP THREE CANDIDATES. VERMONT WITH PETE BUTTIGIEG IN INDIANA AND AMY KLOBUCHAR. THEY -- ANY OF THEM HAVE A HISTORY WITH THE AFRICAN-AMERICAN VOTER. >> NO. >> NONE OF THEM DO. >> ONE OF THE THINGS THAT ALWAYS STRIKES ME IS THE LACK OF THE BIG TEN DEMOCRATS IN THE FIELD. THE DEMOCRATS LIKE WE
SAW IN THE 2004 FIELD, JOHN EDWARDS, JOHN KERRY, PEOPLE WHO COULD DO WELL IN DIFFERENT PARTS OF THE COUNTRY, DIFFERENT COALITIONS. THIS FIELD IS FRACTURED. AS KASIE MENTIONED, IT'S VERY EARLY RIGHT NOW. HE'S NEVER WON A SINGLE STATE, A SINGLE CONTEST IN THOSE THREE BIDS SO FAR. I KNOW HE IS THE FORMER VICE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES. BUT WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT THE HALO FROM THE OBAMA PRESIDENCY AND THAT YOU ARE DOING -- POTENTIALLY WE SAW WHAT HAPPEN IN IOWA MAYBE IN NEW
HAMPSHIRE. TREMENDOUSLY BAD NEWS. >> I'M GOING TO SNEAK IN A BREAK BECAUSE WE'RE ONLY A LITTLE MORE THAN TEN MINUTES AWAY FROM POLLS CLOSING. WE WILL GIVE YOU OUR FIRST CHARACTERIZATION. YOU ARE WATCHING NBC'S SPECIAL COVERAGE OF THE NEW HAMPSHIRE PRESIDENTIAL PRIMARY. >>> WHITE TERRORISM AND WHITE SUPREMACIST TERRORISM IN THIS COUNTRY IS NOT SOME WEIRD ANALOG TO AL QAEDA OR ISIS. IT'S NOT SOME FOREIGN THING THAT LOOKS LIKE SOMETHING THAT WE'VE BEEN
FIGHTING IN THE WAR ON TERROR. IT'S ACTUALLY, FUNDAMENTALLY, AS AMERICAN AS ANYTHING. AND IT IS AN EXISTENTIAL THREAT TO THE MULTI-RACIAL, PLURALISTIC, EQUAL DEMOCRACY THAT WE HAVE BEEN FIGHTING FOR IN THIS COUNTRY SINCE PEOPLE DIED ON THE BATTLEFIELD IN THE CIVIL WAR. >> WE ARE GOING TO START WITH SOMETHING DIFFERENT TONIGHT. THIS IS ONE OF THOSE THINS YOU HAVE NOT BEEN OTHERWISE HEARING ABOUT IN THE NEWS BUT STICK WITH ME. >> FEED YOUR MIND WITH FRESH PERSPECTIVE.
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FIRST IN THE NATION NEW HAMPSHIRE PRIMARY. I'M KASIE HUNT HERE IN MANCHESTER, NEW HAMPSHIRE. CHUCK TODD'S GOING TO BE BACK IN JUST A MOMENT BECAUSE WE ARE JUST MINUTES AWAY FROM
THE LAST POLL CLOSING ACROSS THE GRANITE STATE. AND WE HAVE RESULTS TONIGHT, UNLIKE LAST WEEK IN IOWA. IT'S EARLY BUT HERE IS WHERE THINGS STAND SO FAR. WE HAVE, PREDICTABLY, SANDERS WITH SOMETHING OF A LEAD. BUT THERE ARE TWO OTHERS ALSO ON THE LEADERBOARD. BUTTIGIEG, KLOBUCHAR. WARREN AND BIDEN, AS WELL. A SLATE OF OTHER CANDIDATES SEEM TO BE FALLING FARTHER BEHIND. WE'VE ALREADY STARTED TALKING ABOUT THOSE TOP THREE CANDIDATES BUT WE OF COURSE ARE NOT GOING TO CHARACTERIZE THE
RACE HERE AT NBC NEWS UNTIL ALL THE POLLS CLOSE ACROSS THE STATE. LET'S GO NOW TO ONE OF THOSE POLLING LOCATIONS. DASHA BURNS IS IN LONDON DAIRY, NEW HAMPSHIRE. WHAT DID YOU LEARN? >> HEY, KASIE. POLLS STILL OPEN BUT JUST ABOUT TO CLOSE HERE IN ABOUT TEN MINUTES. WE HAVE GOT THE LAST FEW VOTERS TRICKLING IN HERE. AND THIS IS ACTUALLY THE LARGEST POLLING PLACE, THE LARGEST SINGLE POLLING PLACE, IN THE STATE. AND LET ME START WITH WHAT WE DO KNOW BECAUSE WE WON'T KNOW
RESULTS OUT OF HERE FOR A LITTLE WHILE. BUT LET ME START WITH THE ALL-IMPORTANT TOPIC OF TURNOUT. IT HAS BEEN HIGH HERE. AS OF 7:30, MORE THAN 7,600 TOTAL BALLOTS CAST. FOR CONTEXT, IN 2016, THERE WERE 10,000 BALLOTS CAST HERE. BUT OF COURSE, THAT WAS AN ELECTION WHERE THERE WERE -- THERE WAS A CONTEST ON BOTH THE REPUBLICAN AND DEMOCRATIC SIDE. SO ELECTION WORKERS HERE TELLING ME THEY ARE SURPRISED BY HOW MANY PEOPLE HAVE TURNED OUT TODAY. AND THIS IS DEFINITELY THE HIGHEST TURNOUT FOR
AN INCUMBENT ELECTION IN RECENT HISTORY. NOW, ONE OF THE BIG STORIES COMING OUT OF HERE IS THE VOTER BREAKDOWN IS ACTUALLY ABOUT 60% DEMOCRAT, 40% REPUBLICAN, WHICH IS INTERESTING. THE PEOPLE THAT HAVE WORKED THESE POLLS FOR A WHILE SAY THEY'RE SURPRISED TO SEE JUST HOW HIGH THE TURNOUT WAS ON THE REPUBLICAN SIDE CONSIDERING DONALD TRUMP DOES NOT HAVE MUCH COMPETITION. DON JR. ACTUALLY SHOWED UP HERE ABOUT 30, 40 MINUTES AGO. SO THE THREE BIG CANDIDATES WE HAVE BEEN HEARING A LOT
ABOUT HERE, KLOBUCHAR, BUTTIGIEG, AND DONALD TRUMP. THOSE INDEPENDENT, UNDECLARED VOTERS WE TALKED TO, MOSTLY MENTIONED BUTTIGIEG AND KLOBUCHAR. AS -- AS THE CANDIDATES THEY'RE GOING FOR. AND OF COURSE, DONALD TRUMP FOR THE REPUBLICANS. AND ONE THING I DO WANT TO MENTION BEFORE WE GO IS A UNIQUE ASPECT OF LONDON DAIRY. WE HAVE THESE iPADS THAT HAVE CHECKED PEOPLE IN. SO THESE LINES HAVE MOVED REALLY QUICK. I THINK IT HAS HELPED SMOOTH OUT THE PROCESS FROM WHAT I AM HEARING FROM
THESE WORKERS. >> OF COURSE. JUST A LITTLE WAYS AWAY FROM WHERE WE ARE HERE IN MANCHESTER. NOT NECESSARILY A COLLEGE-DOMINATED AREA MIGHT HELP EXPLAIN A LITTLE BIT OF WHY YOU'RE HEARING MORE THERE ABOUT PETE BUTTIGIEG AND AMY KLOBUCHAR. DASHA BURNS, THANK YOU SO MUCH. WE REALLY APPRECIATE IT. WE ARE GOING TO GO NOW TO DOWN THE ROAD WHERE WE FIND NBC'S MORGAN RADFORD ALSO AT A POLLING LOCATION. HEY, MORGAN. WHAT DID YOU LEARN FROM VOTERS TODAY? >> HEY, ACTUALLY TO ECHO
WITH DASHA SAID, THIS POLLING STATION CLOSED ABOUT AN HOUR AGO AND THE POLL MODERATOR READ THE RESULTS AT 7:05 AND THIS IS WHAT THEY SAID. WE HAVE BUTTIGIEG LEADING AT 131. KLOBUCHAR COMES IN SECOND AT 116. AND SANDERS AT 105. SO YOU SEE THOSE THE TOP THREE. WHAT'S ALSO INTERESTING IS IF YOU LOOK AT THE CANDIDATES WHO DIDN'T DO SO WELL. BIDEN GOT JUST 68 AND THIS IS OUT OF ABOUT 500. SO TO GIVE YOU A LITTLE BIT OF CONTEXT HERE, IT'S A PRETTY CONSERVATIVE AREA OF NEW
HAMPSHIRE. SO ABOUT 1,000 BALLOTS WERE CAST AT THIS PARTICULAR POLLING STATION. 500, ROUGHLY, OF WHICH WENT THE REPUBLICAN SIDE. 500 OF THE DEMOCRAT SIDE. THIS IS AN AREA DONALD TRUMP WON BACK IN THE GENERAL ELECTION IN 2016. SO 449 WENT TO TRUMP ON THE REPUBLICAN SIDE BUT AGAIN BACK TO THAT DEMOCRATIC SIDE, IF YOU LOOK AT KIND OF THE PEOPLE WHO AREN'T DOING SO WELL, BIDEN HAD JUST 68. AND THAT'S PRETTY TELLING. WE'VE ALSO SEEN WARREN JUST DID SLIGHTLY BETTER THAN STEYER. SO
THIS IS HOW IT WORKS AS THESE POLLING PLACES AND THIS IS HOW IT STANDS HERE. >> YEAH. PRETTY REMARKABLE FOR A CANDIDATE TO -- HAS A LOT OF EXPERIENCE IN THIS REGION FROM A NEIGHBORING STATE OF MASSACHUSETTS. JUST WAY DOWN IN THESE NUMBERS AFTER SO MUCH TIME. MORGAN RADFORD, THANK YOU VERY MUCH. JOINING ME NOW IS THE HOST OF NBC'S STAY TUNED, SAVANNAH CELLARS. WE FIND HER HERE IN MANCHESTER, NEW HAMPSHIRE. SAVANNAH, WHAT DID YOU FIND THROUGH THE COURSE OF REPORTING HERE IN
THIS AREA? >> HEY, KASIE, I AM ABOUT TO ECHO THOSE SAME NUMBERS FOR YOU. LIKE YOU MENTIONED, I AM RIGHT OUTSIDE OF MANCHESTER. CLOSED ABOUT AN HOUR AGO AND THEY DON'T WANT US IN THERE ANYMORE, AS THEY ARE COUNTING BY HAND. SO OF COURSE ALL THOSE BALLOTS BASICALLY PRINTS OUT THIS LONG RECEIPT. AND ONCE AGAIN, KLOBUCHAR AND BUTTIGIEG. KLOBUCHAR WAS AT THE TOP WITH 636. BUTTIGIEG, 587. THEN IT GOES SANDERS, BIDEN, AND WARREN. AND ACTUALLY, THERE WAS 3,646 VOTES COUNTED TOTAL HERE
AT THIS LOCATION. SO QUITE A FEW VOTES AND, AGAIN, KLOBUCHAR AT THE TOP. ANECDOTALLY, HEARING A LOT OF PEOPLE WHO WERE UNDECLARED ON THEIR WAY IN DECIDING THAT THEY WERE GOING TO VOTE FOR AMY KLOBUCHAR. AND THAT DOES ACTUALLY SEEM TO BE WHAT IS HAPPENING HERE. THEY ARE COUNTING BY HAND. AND THEN THAT'S WHEN WE WILL GET THE OFFICIAL VOTE. >> SAVANNAH CELLARS IN MANCHESTER, NEW HAMPSHIRE. THANK YOU SO MUCH. YOU ARE OF COURSE WATCHING NBC SPECIAL COVERAGE OF THE

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PRIMARY HERE ON NBC "NEWS NOW." WE ARE GETTING FIRST RESULTS AND HERE WITH MY EXPERT PANEL. BETH FOUHY. IN NEW YORK, WE HAVE JOSHUA JOHNSON STILL WITH US AS WELL AS WE START TO GET CLOSER TO BEING ABLE TO CHARACTERIZE WHERE THIS RACE STANDS RIGHT NOW. BUT A COUPLE STORIES STAND OUT. GETTING SOME FROM OUR REPORTERS IN THE FIELD THAT I THINK HELPS UNDERSCORE THE NARRATIVE TONIGHT. ONE FROM MARIANA THERE ARE ABOUT TWO DOZEN PEOPLE AT THE JOE BIDEN EVENT AND JOE BIDEN ALREADY ON TO
SOUTH CAROLINA. AND THE OTHER STORY, AMANDA GOLDEN, WHO WE SPOKE TO EARLIER IN THE HOUR, SAYS THERE'S A VERY UPBEAT MOOD AT THE KLOBUCHAR EVENT TONIGHT IN NEW HAMPSHIRE. WE WERE TRACKING THE SURGE. WE WEREN'T SURE HOW REAL IT WAS. SEEMS LIKE WE ARE STARTING TO GET THAT ANSWER. >> THERE ARE LATE BREAKING VOTERS WHO SEEM TO BE IN NEW HAMPSHIRE CHOOSING BETWEEN AMY KLOBUCHAR AND PETE BUTTIGIEG. AMONG THOSE WHO DECIDED VERY EARLY WHO THEY WERE GOING TO VOTE FOR, SEEMS LIKE A
LOT OF SANDERS -- ENDED UP STICKING WITH SANDERS ACCORDING TO THESE EXIT POLLS. BUT THOSE WHO DECIDED LATE, A LOT OF THEM, AFTER -- >> TRYING TO DECIDE BETWEEN A HANDFUL OF MODERATE CANDIDATES TRYING TO PICK THE ONE WHO IS MOST LIKELY TO BEAT DONALD TRUMP. >> THAT'S RIGHT. IT'S REALLY INTERESTING TO SEE THESE EXIT POLLS. THOSE WHO ARE LOOKING FOR -- POLICIES. ONE OF THE QUESTIONS IS ARE YOU LOOKING FOR -- TO KEEP OBAMA POLICIES IN PLACE? OR CHANGE TO MORE
LIBERAL POLICIES? 41% OF THE DEMOCRATIC ELECTORATE SHOWS ONE OF THOSE OPTIONS. 41% CHOSE ANOTHER OPTION. IT'S BASICALLY EXACTLY THE SAME WHO CHOSE THOSE AS WELL. AMONG THOSE LOOKING FOR MORE RADICAL CHANGE, MOSTLY STICKING WITH SANDERS. AMONG THOSE WHO ARE LOOKING FOR MORE OF AN OBAMA ERA, IT USED TO BE JOE BIDEN THAT HAD THAT MANTEL. NOW, IT'S AMY KLOBUCHAR AND PETE BUTTIGIEG. >> DEMOCRATIC STATUS QUO. >> CERTAINLY NOT TRUMP AS THE STATUS QUO. THIS SEEMS TO
CRYSTALLIZE THAT THERE IS BERNIE SANDERS ON ONE HAND AND THE BERNIE SANDERS ALTERNATIVE ON THE OTHER HAND. >> RIGHT. AND WHAT I AM REALLY FASCINATED BY IS HOW THIS SURGE OF AMY KLOBUCHAR ACTUALLY SEEMS TO BE PAYING OFF. HER BIG PLAY AT FIRST WAS IOWA. SHE WAS THE NEXT DOOR NEIGHBOR STATE SENATOR. SENATOR FROM MINNESOTA. SHE TALKED ABOUT FLYOVER COUNTRY. SHE TALKED ABOUT THE FACT THAT SHE LIVED IN FLYOVER COUNTRY. BUT SHE CAME IN FIFTH IN IOWA. SHE REALLY, REALLY TANKED THERE. SO
THE FACT THAT SHE WAS ABLE TO PICK HERSELF UP, TAKE HERSELF TO NEW HAMPSHIRE, AND REALLY PERFORM IN THAT DEBATE SEEMS TO BE WHAT IS SAVING HER. AND, YOU KNOW, AS WE KNOW, MOMENTUM MATTERS AND SHE WAS ABLE TO GRAB IT. >> AND WE'RE STILL AT THE MOMENTUM PHASE OF THIS RACE. WE ARE SIT ATOP OF THE HOUR NOW. POLLS ARE CLOSING STATEWIDE IN NEW HAMPSHIRE. AND THE NBC NEWS DECISION DESK WILL MAKE A CHARACTERIZATION OF THIS RACE. THE NEW HAMPSHIRE DEMOCRAT. >> PRIMARY IS STILL
TOO EARLY TO CALL. BUT BERNIE SANDERS IS MINUTE LEAD. SANDERS AND PETE BUTTIGIEG AND AMY KLOBUCHAR ARE THE TOP THREE FINISHERS IN THE RACE. NO SURPRISE ON THE REPUBLICAN SIDE, THE DECISION DESK IS PROJECTING AS EXPECTED DONALD TRUMP WINS THE NEW HAMPSHIRE REPUBLICAN PRIMARY. NOW WITH US, FOLLOWING THE BUTTIGIEG CAMPAIGN, VON HILLIARD. VON, OUR FIRST INITIAL CHARACTERIZATION HERE. WE KNOW THE CANDIDATE YOU'VE BEEN FOLLOWING SO CLOSELY IS GOING TO FINISH IN THE TOP THREE HERE IN
NEW HAMPSHIRE. WHAT IS THE MOOD -- MOOD LIKE WHERE YOU ARE AND WHAT DOES THIS MEAN GOING FORWARD. >> Reporter: EVERY TIME YOU'VE BEEN TO ENOUGH OF THESE EVERY COUPLE OF MOMENTS YOU HEAR CHEERS FROM BEHIND YOU AND MAKE YOU LOOK UP AT THE TV SCREEN AND IT MAY BE A COUPLE OF HUNDRED VOTES THAT CHANGED A COUPLE OF PERCENTAGE POINTS. THIS IS A CAMPAIGN BASED OFF OF THE NUMBERS YOU'RE LOOKING AT, THEY'RE POSITIONED BASED OFF THE RESULTS COMING IN NOW EXACTLY WHERE THEY
WANTED TO BE. THEY WANTED TO COME OUT OF THIS WITH AS A TWO-MAN RACE AND IT IS THE MINDSET OF THE REST OF THE COUNTRY. THAT BEING PETE BUTTIGIEG AND BERNIE SANDERS. AND AMY KLOBUCHAR IS THE WILD CARD. THERE IS NO REASON FOR AMY KLOBUCHAR TO LEAVE THIS RACE AND NO SUGGESTION FROM JOE BIDEN IN SOUTH CAROLINA AND ELIZABETH WARREN THAT THEY'RE GOING ANY WITH WHERE. SO PETE BUTTIGIEG WANTED TO LEAD TONIGHT AS THE CLEAR ALTERNATIVE TO BERNIE SANDERS. BUT WHAT YOU CAN SAY IS BASED OFF THE
INITIAL RESULTS THAT HE IS CLOSE TO THE NEIGHBORING SENATOR FROM VERMONT. I THINK WE SHOULD TAKE INTO CONTEXT, THERE IS A LOT OF QUESTION MARKS FOR PETE BUTTIGIEG HEADING TO NEVADA AND SOUTH CAROLINA WHERE THERE IS NO EVIDENCE OF STRONG POLLING FIGURES AND ESPECIALLY LACK OF SUPPORT AMONG COMMUNITIES OF COLOR. PETE BUTTIGIEG, ONE YEAR AGO, HE HAD NO OPERATION HERE. MEANWHILE HE HAD THE PROSPECT OF HAVING TO COMPETE AGAINST NEIGHBORING SENATORS BERNIE SANDERS, WHO WON BY 22 PERCENTAGE
POINTS AGAINST HILLARY CLINTON FOUR YEARS AGO AND ELIZABETH WARREN WHO HAS BEEN FOR THE LAST DECADE ON THE TV AIRWAVES ACROSS A LARGE PART OF NEW HAMPSHIRE BECAUSE OF THE BOSTON TELEVISION MARKET AND NOW WHAT YOU'RE SEEING IN THE RESULTS TONIGHT IS THE FACT THAT PETE BUTTIGIEG WAS ABLE TO CONVINCE A LARGE ENOUGH SHARE OF THE ELECTORATE TO GIVE HIM A SHOT AND NOW WHAT THE CAMPAIGN WANTS IS OVER THE NEXT FEW WEEKS, NEVADA AND SOUTH CAROLINA, FOR FOLKS TO TAKE THAT CONSIDERATION HE
WAS ABLE TO BRING OVER SOME INDEPENDENTS AND EVEN REPUBLICANS AND IF FOLKS ARE CONCERNED ABOUT BEATING DONALD TRUMP IN THE LIKES OF IOWA, IN THE LIKES OF NEW HAMPSHIRE, THEN HE IS THE CANDIDATE BEING THAT ALTERNATIVE TO BERNIE SANDERS. >> VON HILLIARD, THANK YOU, WE'LL STICK WITH YOU THROUGH WHAT IS BOUND TO BE A BIG NIGHT AT THE BUTTIGIEG CAMPAIGN. AND FOLLOWING ME THE WARREN CAMPAIGN WE HAVE THE OPPOSITE STORY WITH NBC'S ALI VITALE. VON WAS JUST TOUCHING ON THIS BUT
SHE IS A NEIGHBOR AND MANY OF US FLY TO BOSTON AND DRIVE JUST UNDER AN HOUR TO GET TO HERE IN NEW HAMPSHIRE. AND SHE IS SOMEBODY WHO ANNOUNCED AND GOT IN THE RACE FIRST, SHE HAS BEEN ON THE AIRWAVES AS VON POINTED OUT AND IT IS A TRIBUTE OF FAMILIAR OF NAMES IN THE REGION BUT WE'RE SEEING HER REALLY FALL DOWN HERE. NOT IN THIS TOP THREE THAT IS IN OUR CONVERSATION NOW. >> Reporter: YEAH, CASEY AND VON IS NOT WRONG. BEING ON THE GROUND HERE IN NEW HAMPSHIRE, SEVERAL VOTERS
TELL ME THEY INSTANTLY REMEMBER EXPERIENCING HER 2012 SENATE RACE BECAUSE IT WAS THE TALK OF THE AIRWAVES HERE IN MASSACHUSETTS AND ALSO HERE IN NEW HAMPSHIRE. BUT THERE IS ONE CAVEAT TO THAT AND THAT IS 2018 SHE DIDN'T HAVE A COMPETITIVE SENATE RE-ELECTION RACE AND SO SHE WASN'T ON TELEVISION. SHE DIDN'T SPEND MONEY ON IT TV ADS SO SHE HASN'T BEEN A RECENT UBIQUITOUS PRESENCE HERE. I HAD WILL SAY HERE ON THE GROUND AT WARREN HQ IN MANCHESTER, PEOPLE ARE FILING IN
AROUND ME. WE'RE GETTING A LITTLE BIT OF THAT EXCITED ENERGY THAT YOU START ELECTION NIGHT OUT WITH. BUT THE VIBE HERE AT HEADQUARTERS IS NOT NECESSARILY THE VIBE THAT I'VE BEEN GETTING FROM THE CAMPAIGN. INSTEAD FROM THAT IS -- IT SEEMS KAIET RESIGNATION THAT THIS IS A LONG SLOTH AND THAT FACTORS INTO THE STRATEGY THAT THEY'RE PLAYING WITH IS THAT THEY WANT THIS TO BE A PROTRACTED PRIMARY WHERE IDEALLY FOR THEM YOU SEE WHAT HAPPENED IN IOWA WITH NO ONE RUNNING AWAY WITH
THAT VICTORY. THAT IS WHAT THEY WANT TO HAPPEN HERE IN NEW HAMPSHIRE TO KEEP GOING ON. THEY'VE BEEN TAMPING DOWN ON THE EXPECTATIONS HERE IN NEW HAMPSHIRE AND LOOKING AHEAD. BUT THERE IS SHIFTING BEING DONE IN TERMS OF HOW THEY'RE PLAYING TO ENACT THAT STRATEGY DOWN THE BOARD. WE KNOW CAMPAIGNS WELL ENOUGH TO KNOW THEY HAVE TO BE NIMBLE WITH RESOURCES TO HEAD DOWN THE CALENDAR FOR A LONGER STRETCH. THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT THE WARREN CAMPAIGN IS DOING. LAST HOUR WHEN I WAS TALKING TO
YOU, WE TALKED ABOUT THEM CANCELING TV AD BUYS IN SOUTH CAROLINA AND INSTEAD PUTTING THAT MONEY INTO RADIO AND PRINT IN SOUTH CAROLINA AS WELL AS PUSHING THAT INTO TV ADS IN NEVADA AND MAINE. WHEN I GOT OFF THE AIR WITH YOU GUYS, I CALLED BEN, OUR POLITICAL UNIT AND SAID HOW MUCH MONEY ARE WE TALKING ABOUT AND HE WAS ABLE TO LOOK AT THROUGH ADVERTISING ANALYTICS, ABOUT $750,000 OF SPENDING REVERVED FROM TOMORROW THROUGH PRIMARY DAY. THE THING ABOUT THAT NUMBER IS ADVERTISING
ANALYTICS GROUPS TOGETHER RADIO AND TELEVISION SPENDING BUT THE ASSUMPTION COULD BE THAT LIKELY THE BULK WAS SPENT ON TV. SO THEY'RE LOOKING AT REALLOCATING FUNDS AND QUITE FRANKLY FOR THE CAMPAIGNS IF THE NAME ISN'T MICHAEL BLOOMBERG, NIMBLE IS THE NAME OF THE GAME WITH THE RESOURCES. >> AND IT IS GOING TO BE WHO ELIZABETH WARREN WHO SPOKE ON HER ORGANIZATION AND A LITTLE BIT OF A TEST THERE TO SEE IF THAT PLAYS OUT DIFFERENTLY FOR HER THAN FOR JOE BIDEN. ALLY, THANK
YOU. CHUCK TODD IS BACK WITH US AS WE LEARN ONE OF THE CANDIDATES FURTHER DOWN THE LIST IS SUSPENDING HIS CAMPAIGN. NBC NEWS REPORTING THAT MR. YANG WILL NO LONGER BE A MEMBER. >> HE SEEMED TO HINT THIS WAS GOING TO HAPPEN. HE'S TALKING ABOUT 2024. IT IS INTERESTING, HE WAS A CANDIDATE THAT HAD NEW HAMPSHIRE BEEN MORE RELEVANT AND IN EVERYBODY'S THOUGHT THREE MONTHS AGO. HE'S THE TYPE OF CANDIDATE IF HE PARKED HIMSELF HERE, HE MIGHT HAVE BEEN -- THEY MIGHT DECIDED THAT
HE COULD HAVE HAD HAD SOME TRACTION. BUT IT DOESN'T LOOK LIKE NEW HAMPSHIRE AND PEOPLE AVOIDING IT DUE TO THE WARREN AND SANDERS ATTRACTOR. >> AND HE CAME FARTHER THAN A LOT OF PEOPLE. >> HE RAISED MORE MONEY THAN BETO O'ROURKE AND KAMALA HARRIS. >> AND WE TALK ABOUT THIS IS -- IT IS A QUIRKY POLICY ISSUE TO PEOPLE NOW. THIS IS SPG THAT IS GAINING MORE MAINSTREAM ATTENTION IN FOUR YEARS HE MIGHT NOT SEEM LIKE THE WEIRD QUIRKY GUY. >> HE'S THE QUIRKY
GUY. HE OWNED THAT. BUT YOU ARE RIGHT, ON THE INTERESTING ASPECT OF THIS IS WHY HE WAS ABLE TO STAY IN AS LONG AS HE DID. BECAUSE HE HAD A REAL MESSAGE. HIS -- THERE WAS A THEORY TO HIS CAMPAIGN. WE SAW KAMALA HARRIS NEVER COME UP WITH A THEORY. ANDREW YANG HAD THAT. AND WHETHER YOU AGREE WITH HIM OR NOT HE WAS A COMPELLING ADVOCATE FOR HIS POSITION. HE BROUGHT PEOPLE OVER TO HIM FOR THAT REASON. BUT WHAT WE DIDN'T SEE WAS ANY SIGN THAT HE COULD TALK ABOUT MUCH ABOUT ANYTHING ELSE
AND THAT MIGHT HAVE BEEN THE THING THAT FELL HIM. IS THIS THE GUY STANDING UP TO PUTIN OR KIM JONG-UN OR TO MANAGE A BIG NATIONAL SECURITY CRISIS. >> WHAT WAS HIS GREAT DISCIPLINE IS BRINGING EVERY ANSWER BACK TO UBI. AND YOU'RE LIKE, OKAY, DO YOU HAVE A SECOND MOVE? AT THESE DEBATES. >> AND HIS STUMP SPEECH TOLD VERY, VERY LITTLE AND BRING IT TO THE NEW AUDIENCE AND IT IS DIFFERENT FROM OTHER CANDIDATES THAT SOMETIMES YOU WOULD GET A GREAT RECEPTION IN THE ROOM AND
THEN I WOULD TALK TO OUR PEOPLE WITH HIM AT TIME AND THEY WOULD SAY THAT WAS WORD-FOR-WORD WHAT HE SAID WEEKS AGO. AND IN DEBATES IT SHOWED THAT HE SOMETIMES WASN'T AS NIMBLE ANSWERING THOSE QUESTIONS OR WHEN HE WAS SPEAKING OFF THE CUFF, HE WAS REFRESHING BECAUSE IT WAS AN UNUSUAL MESSAGE. BUT HIS STUMP SPEECH ITSELF WAS VERY DISCIPLINED TO THE POINT OF -- I THINK A LOT OF VIEWERS OR VOTERS SAW HIM AND SAID I LIKE WHAT HE HAS TO SAY, BUT IT IS A LITTLE NOT -- . >> WANT
TO BE ABLE TO SAY THIS PHRASE BECAUSE I THINK I WAS THE ONLY PERSON THAT DIDN'T USE THIS PHRASE FOR THE VIDEO THAT WENT AROUND NBC NEWS IN THE LAST WEEK. AND THAT IS WE HAVE THE BIDEN WHISPERER. THE BIDEN WHISPERER HAS MADE HIS WAY TO SOUTH CAROLINA AND IT IS NONE OTHER THAN MIKE MEM ALLEY, HAVE YOU WHIT PERRED THE RESULTS TO THE TEAM BIDEN AND WHAT ARE THEY WHISPERING TO YOU. >> WITH WHEN YOU HEAR THE NBC NEWS CHARACTERIZATION ABOUT JOE BIDEN, YOU UNDERSTAND WHY WE'VE
GONE TO WARMER CLIMATE HERE IN SOUTH CAROLINA. AND AFTER THAT GUT PUNCH IN IOWA, THE BIDEN CAMPAIGN WANTED TO SEE IF THEY COULD DO ANYTHING TO TRY TO MAKE THE NUMBERS IN NEW HAMPSHIRE PROVIDE A QUICK AND EARLY REBOUND. WE SAW THEM COME OUT QUICKLY WITH ACKNOWLEDGMENT OF THE SETBACK AND TRY TO PLAY INTO THE COMEBACK SENSIBILITY THAT SOMETIMES NEW HAMPSHIRE HAS PROVIDED DEMOCRATIC CANDIDATES IN DISTRESS. THAT DIDN'T WORK. HE WENT AFT HE WENT AFTER TWO OF HIS TOP RIVALS, BERNIE
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SANDERS AND PETE BUTTIGIEG. THE LATTER INCREASINGLY AS EACH DAY WENT BY AND THAT POTENTIALLY BACKFIRED ON THE FORMER VICE PRESIDENT. SO WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE STRENGTH OF JOE BIDEN'S CANDIDACY AT THE OUTSET OF THE NOMINATION, YOU SEE ONE OF THE PRAGMATIC PROGRESSIVE LANE CROWDED OUT BY AMY KLOBUCHAR AND MAYOR PETE. AND YOU SEE THE ERA OF THE OBAMA LEGACY RAIN AND JUST ABOUT EVERY D.C. IS RUNNING ADS AND MICHAEL BLOOMBERG WITH THOSE ADS AS WELL. AND THEN YOU HAVE THE I'M THE MOST
ELECTABLE DEMOCRAT BOMBARDING THE AIRWAVES. WHAT IS LEFT IN JOE BIDEN WAVE IS AFRICAN-AMERICAN SUPPORT AND THEY NEED TO SHORE UP HIS AFRICAN-AMERICAN FOOT HOLD. HE NEEDS NOW, THIS FIRE WALL, IT HAS NEVER BEEN MORE IMPORTANT AND HE NEEDED TO MAKE AN EARLY STATEMENT HERE. >> WELL YOU MENTIONED ELECTABILITY, ELECTABILITY. KASIE HUNT, WOULD YOU RATHER SEE A NOMINEE WHO CAN BEAT TRUMP AND WE SEE THAT IS. TWO TO ONE AT 35%. BUT LET'S LOOK AT THE BREAKDOWN OF CAN BE TRUMP. A COOL
LITTLE TOOL HERE. LOOK AT THIS PIE CHART. LOOK AT HOW PRETTY THAT IS. NOW BIDEN, JUST 13%. BASICALLY ONLY ABOUT 20% OF THESE ELECTABILITY VOTERS THOUGHT HE WAS THE MOST ELECTABILITY. LOOK IS WHO IS WINNING. BUTTIGIEG AT 27, KLOBUCHAR AT 21 AND THERE IS YOUR ESTABLISHMENT LANE. >> IT IS PRETTY REMARKABLE AND A SIGNIFICANT CHUNK OF THE BOARD, TOO. IT IT IS CLOSE TO 50% BETWEEN KLOBUCHAR AND BUTTIGIEG. >> LOOK LET'S NOT FOR THE CHART -- ONE IN FIVE ISN'T BAD. >>
BUT AT THE SAME TIME IT IS CLEAR THAT THE LANE FOR -- THE ELECTABILITY LANE IN THE NON-STANDERS CORNER IS GO TO KLOBUCHAR AND BUTTIGIEG IS THE NARRATIVE OUT OF TONIGHT. AND THE BUTTIGIEG POINT IS INTERESTING TO ME BECAUSE I THINK IF THERE WERE QUESTIONS ABOUT HIS CANDIDACY OUT OF THE GATE AND JOE BIDEN TRIED TO MAKE THIS POINT IN NEW HAMPSHIRE AND HE MOCKED HIM FOR BEING AN INEXPERIENCED MAYOR AND MILLENNIAL UNDER 40 YEARS OLD AND THIS WILL SHOW THAT THERE ARE A LOT OF VOTERS HERE
IN NEW HAMPSHIRE WILLING TO GIVE HIM THE BENEFIT OF THE DOUBT. >> I DID THE MATH OF BUTTIGIEG, KLOBUCHAR AND BIDEN. AT 61% OF THE ELECTABILITY VOTERS PICKING THE MORE MODERATE CANDIDATE, WARREN AND SANDERS ESSENTIALLY THE OTHER 30 AND THE MORE PROGRESSIVE AND THE ELECTABILITY WING OF THE PARTY CLEARLY IS MORE MODERATE. >> ABSOLUTELY. AND THIS IS A MORE MODERATE ELECTORATE THAN WHAT WE SAW IN 2016 WHEN SANDERS PERFORMED SO WELL. IT LOOKS LIKE THERE WERE MORE CONSERVATIVE
OR MODERATE DEMOCRATS OR REPUBLICANS THAT WERE UNDECLARED AND VOTING IN THE PRIMARY. DO YOU THINK THAT IT IS INTERESTING. BIDEN RAN SO CLEARLY ON THE IDEA OF I'M THE ONLY CANDIDATE WHO COULD BEAT TRUMP. AND THE FACT THAT HE FELL APART SO MUCH IN IOWA IS WHY I THINK THAT NUMBER IS AS LOW AS IT IS HERE. NOW I WILL SAY THAT FOR SANDERS, TURNOUT IS REALLY IMPORTANT HERE, IN IOWA THE TURNOUT WAS NOT GREAT AND IT KIND OF UNDERCUT A LITTLE BIT OF SANDERS ELECTABILITY PITCH WHICH IS I
COULD BRING OUT NEW CONSTITUENTS. >> WE'LL AWAITING FOR ANDREW YANG. AND I THINK CORIN IS WITH US. AND VERY QUICKLY, IT IS CLEAR THAT THE MODERATES ARE WINNING THE ELECTABILITY MOVEMENT AND WHAT DO MOVE ON MEMBERS THINK. >> IT IS INTERESTING, BECAUSE WE HAVE POLLED MOVE-ON MEMBERS OVER THE PAST, GOSH, YEARS IF I'M REMEMBERING CORRECTLY. AND ANY TIME WE ASKED THEM CLEARLY WHO ARE YOUR TOP THREE OR FOUR, IT IS ALWAYS BEEN BUNCHED UP. IT IS NEVER BEEN ALL THAT CLEAR.
I THINK AT ONE POINT WARREN LED THAT AND SO IT IS BEEN -- IT HAS BEEN -- >> DON'T MEAN TO CUT YOU OFF. BUT WE'RE GETTING ANDREW YANG HERE TO SAY GOOD-BYE TO THE CAMPAIGN. HERE IS MR. ANDREW YANG. >> -- YOU ALL HAVE UP LIFTED ME AND INSPIRED HAD ME AND EVELYN AND THIS CAMPAIGN AT EVERY TURN. YOUR PASSION AND ENERGY, YOUR DONATIONS AND HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF HOURS CALLING, VOLUNTEERING, YOUR ENTHUSIASM AND DEDICATION AND COMMITMENT. WE'VE ACCOMPLISHED SO MUCH
TOGETHER. >> WE HAVE BROUGHT A MESSAGE OF HUMANITY FIRST AND A VISION OF AN ECONOMY AND SOCIETY THAT WORKS FOR US AND OUR FAMILIES TO MILLIONS OF OUR FELLOW AMERICANS. WE WENT THERE A MAILING LIST THAT STARTED WITH JUST MY G-MAIL CONTACT LIST TO RECEIVING DONATIONS FROM OVER 400,000 PEOPLE AROUND THE COUNTRY AND MILLIONS MORE WHO HAVE SUPPORTED THIS CAMPAIGN. ONE OF THE THINGS I'M MOST PROUD OF, WE GAVE $1,000 A MONTH TO 13 FAMILIES AROUND THE COUNTRY. INCLUDING JEEDY FASSY
RIGHT HERE IN NEW HAMPSHIRE. WE HIGHLIGHTING THE REAL PROBLEMS IN OUR COMMUNITIES AS OUR ECONOMY IS BEING TRANSFORMED BEFORE OUR EYES BY TECHNOLOGY AND AUTOMATION. AMERICANS KNOW NOW THAT WHEN YOU GO TO A FACTORY MANY MICHIGAN, YOU DO NOT FIND WALL TO WALL IMMIGRANTS DOING WORK YOU FIND WALL TO WALL ROBOT ARMS DOING THE WORK THAT PEOPLE USED TO DO. WE STOOD ON THE DEBATE STAGE AND SHIFTED OUR NATIONAL CONVERSATION TO INCLUDE THE FOURTH INDUSTRIAL REVOLUTION, A TOPIC NO ONE WANTED TO
TOUCH UNTIL WE MADE IT HAPPEN HERE WITH WITH IT THIS CAMPAIGN. OUR SIGNATURE PROPOSAL UNIVERSAL BASIC INCOME HAS BECOME PART OF THE MAINSTREAM CONVERSATION. WE INCREASED THE POPULAR SUPPORT FOR UNIVERSAL BASIC INCOME TO 66% OF DEMOCRATS. AND 72% AMONG VOTERS 18 TO 34. WITHOUT A DOUBT, WE ACCELERATED THE ERADICATION OF POVERTY IN OUR SOCIETY BY YEARS AND EVEN GERATIONS AND THAT IS THANKS TO ALL OF YOU WHO ARE HERE TONIGHT. THOUGH THOUSANDS OF VOTERS CAME OUT FOR OUR CAMPAIGN TONIGHT,
TONIGHT IS NOT THE OUTCOME WE FOUGHT SO HARD TO ACHIEVE. IT IS BITTERLY DISAPPOINTING FOR MANY OF US BUT IT SHOULDN'T BE. EVERY SINGLE DAY I'VE BEEN CAMPAIGNING I'VE HAD SUPPORTERS SAY TO ME, YOUR CAMPAIGN HELPS ME OUT OF A DEPRESSION, THANK YOU. WORKING ON THIS CAMPAIGN HAS MADE ME A BETTER PERSON. I MET MY SIGNIFICANT OTHER BECAUSE OF YOU. YOUR CAMPAIGN BROUGHT MY FAMILY TOGETHER. YOUR CAMPAIGN GOT ME EXCITED ABOUT POLITICS FOR THE FIRST TIME. THESE ARE ALL THINGS THAT
PEOPLE HAVE SAID TO ME IN THE PAST DAYS AND THEY ARE THE REASONS WHY I'M SO INCREDIBLY PROUD OF THIS CAMPAIGN AND WHAT WE'VE ACCOMPLISHED TOGETHER. WE HAVE TOUCHED AND IMPROVED MILLIONS OF LIVES AND MOVED IT THIS COUNTRY WE LOVE SO MUCH IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION. AND WHILE THERE IS GREAT WORK LEFT TO BE DONE, YOU KNOW I AM THE MATH GUY. AND IT IS CLEAR TONIGHT FROM THE NUMBERS THAT WE ARE NOT GOING TO WIN THIS RACE. I AM NOT SOMEONE WHO WANTED TO ACCEPT DONATIONS AND SUPPORT IN A
RACE THAT WE WILL NOT WIN. AND SO TONIGHT I'M ANNOUNCING I'M SUSPENDING MY CAMPAIGN FOR PRESIDENT. >> LOVE YOU ANDREW. >> I LOVE YOU TOO. THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU SO MUCH. >> ANDREW YANG OFFICIALLY TAKING HIMSELF OUT OF THE PRESIDENTIAL RACE. KASIE HUNT, GAVE AN INTERVIEW BEFORE ANNOUNCING TO SUPPORTERS THAT HE WAS DROPPING OUT. >> THANK YOU SO MUCH -- >> THAT SEEMED TO PAINT A PICTURE OF A GUY WHO CAUGHT THE BUG IF YOU WILL. CAUGHT THE
CAMPAIGN BUG. >> IT SEEMED THAT WAY. WITH WE TALKED TO THE ATLANTIC THAT HE'S NOT RULING OUT ANOTHER RUB FOR PRESIDENT BUT HE MIGHT RUN FOR MAYOR OF NEW YORK CITY. SO, YEAH. I THINK HE'S GIVING SPEECHES ON THIS SIGNATURE ISSUE OF UBI. AND HE SAID IN THE SEEM THAT IT DOES SEEM TO HAVE CAUGHT FIRE. AND I THINK THERE ARE SOME REASONS FOR THAT IN OUR ELECTORATE THAT ARE DRIVING -- DROVE DONALD TRUMP'S CAMPAIGN AND DRIVING BERNIE SANDERS CAMPAIGN. MEDICARE FOR ALL WAS A
MUCH MORE CONSIDERED TO BE A FRINGE IDEA BEFORE BERNIE RAN IN 2016. THIS IS THE NEXT STEP DOWN THE ROAD AND I THINK THERE ARE PROBABLY A LOST PEOPLE EXPERIENCING WHAT HE TALKED ABOUT WHICH IS THE IDEA THEIR JOBS ARE BEING TAKEN OVER BY TECHNOLOGY AND THEY'RE AFRAID OF WHAT HAPPENS NEXT. >> WE'RE AWAITING ELIZABETH WARREN WHO WE'RE TOLD IS GOING TO BE SPEAKING PRETTY SOON. I WANT TO BRING IN CORIN JOHN PEE EAR BACK FROM MOVE-ON AND SOME OF THE EARLY STRAW POLLS, THE
MOVE-ON ACTIVISTS SEEM TO LEAN MORE WARREN THAN SANDERS. THAT IS SORT OF THE PRAGMATIC PROGRESSIVE WING AS WE SAY. IS THAT A FAIR WAY TO DESCRIBE THE MOVE-ON VOTERS. >> THAT IS FAIR. BUT I HAVE TO TELL YOU, IT IS PRETTY BUNCHED UP BETWEEN AT THE TIME WARREN, HARRIS, EVEN JOE BIDEN AND BERNIE. WHEN WE WERE DOING OUR POLLS, I THINK IT IS VERY MUCH WHAT YOU'VE BEEN SEEING ON THE GROUND WHICH IS NOT REALLY KNOWING WHAT TO GO WITH BECAUSE IT WAS SUCH A LARGE FIELD AND SUCH A TALENTED
FIELD AND BECAUSE PEOPLE REALLY WANTED TO WIN. I JUST WANT TO SAY ABOUT YANG REALLY QUICKLY, IF I MAY, CHUCK. IS THAT YANG OUTLASTED SENATOR HARRIS AND SENATOR BOOKER AND OUTLETTING BETO, RAISED MONEY. THE GUY RAN AN IMPRESSIVE CAMPAIGN WHETHER YOU LIKED WHAT HE WAS SELLING OR NOT. AND TO BE ENDING HIS CAMPAIGN AFTER NEW HAMPSHIRE, THAT IS IMPRESSIVE. I THINK HE HAD A BIG FIGHT. >> CORIN, I HAVE TO DO IT TO YOU AGAIN. I'M CUTTING YOU OFF EVERY TIME A CANDIDATE COMES ON THE
STAGE. BUT I THINK YOU GOT TO FINISH YOUR THOUGHT THIS TIME SO I APPRECIATE YOUR PATIENCE THERE. HERE COMES ELIZABETH WARREN. IT IS WORTH NOTING ELIZABETH WARREN AND JOE BIDEN COLLECTIVELY, IF YOU ADDED UP THEIR VOTES THEY WOULD STILL BE -- FOURTH PLACE. AND A SURPRISING NIGHT FOR ELIZABETH WARREN IN THE NEGATIVE I GUESS YOU COULD SAY. LET'S TAKE A LISTEN. >> HELLO, NEW HAMPSHIRE. THE RESULTS ARE STILL COMING IN FROM ACROSS THE STATE BUT RIGHT NOW IT IS CLEAR THAT SENATOR
SANDERS AND MAYOR BUTTIGIEG HAVE STRONG MIGHT. AND I ALSO WANT TO CONGRATULATE MY FRIEND AND COLLEAGUE AMY KLOBUCHAR FOR SHOWING JUST HOW WRONG THE PUNDITS CAN BE WHEN THEY COUNT A WOMAN OUT. BUT SINCE WE ARE HERE TONIGHT AMONG FAMILY AND FRIENDS I ALSO WANT US TO BE HONEST WITH OURSELVES AS DEMOCRATS. WE MIGHT BE HEADED FOR ANOTHER ONE OF THOSE LONG PRIMARY FIGHTS THAT LAST FOR MONTHS. WE'RE TWO STATES IN, WITH 55 STATES AND TERRITORIES TO GO. WE STILL HAVE 98% OF OUR DELEGATES
FOR OUR NOMINATION UP FOR GRABS AND AMERICANS IN EVERY PART OF THE COUNTRY ARE GOING TO MAKE THEIR VOICES HEARD. THAT'S RIGHT. THE QUESTION FOR US DEMOCRATS IS WHETHER IT ARE WILL BE A LONG, BITTER REHASH OF THE SAME OLD DIVIDE IN OUR PARTY OR WHETHER WE COULD FIND ANOTHER WAY. SENATOR SANDERS AND MAYOR BUTTIGIEG ARE BOTH GREAT PEOPLE AND EITHER ONE OF THEM WOULD BE A FAR BETTER PRESIDENT THAN DONALD TRUMP. I RESPECT THEM BOTH. BUT THE FIGHT BETWEEN FACTIONS IN OUR PARTY HAS TAKEN
A SHARP TURN IN RECENT WEEKS. WITH ADS MOCKING OTHER CANDIDATES AND WITH SUPPORTERS OF SOME CANDIDATES SHOUTING CURSES AT OTHER DEMOCRATIC CANDIDATES. THESE HARSH TACTICS MIGHT WORK. IF YOU ARE WILLING TO BURN DOWN THE REST OF THE PARTY IN ORDER TO BE THE LAST MAN STANDING. THEY MIGHT WORK IF YOU DON'T WORRY ABOUT LEAVING OUR PARTY AND OUR POLITICS WORSE OFF THAN HOW YOU FOUND IT AND IT MIGHT WORK IF YOU THINK ONLY YOU HAVE ALL THE ANSWERS AND ONLY YOU ARE THE SOLUTION TO ALL OUR
PROBLEMS. BUT IF WE'RE GOING TO BEAT DONALD TRUMP IN NOVEMBER, WE ARE GOING TO NEED HUGE TURNOUT WITHIN OUR PARTY. AND TO GET THAT TURNOUT, WE WILL NEED A NOMINEE THAT THE BROADEST COALITION OF OUR PARTY FEELS LIKE THEY COULD GET BEHIND. WE CANNOT AFFORD TO FALL INTO FACTIONS. WE CAN'T AFFORD TO SQUANDER OR ELECTIVE POWER. WE WIN WHEN WE COME TOGETHER. YOU KNOW, THE REF VAND JESSE JACKSON ONCE SAID IT TAKES TWO WINGS TO FLY AND I THINK HE'S RIGHT. OUR CAMPAIGN IS BEST
POSITIONS TO BEAT DONALD TRUMP IN NOVEMBER BECAUSE WE CAN UNITE OUR PARTY. WE CAN UNITE THIS PARTY AND THIS COUNTRY BY MOBILIZING PEOPLE BEHIND IDEAS THAT ARE NOT ONLY POPULAR, WITH HUGE MAJORITY OF THE AMERICAN PEOPLE BUT THAT ALSO ACCOMPLISH STRUCTURAL CHANGE FOR OUR BROKEN GOVERNMENT AND OUR RIGGED ECONOMY. WE CAN UNITE PEOPLE AROUND THE WEALTH TAX ON THE VERY RICHEST AMERICANS SO WE CAN INVEST IN EDUCATION FOR ALL. WE CAN UNITE PEOPLE AROUND ENDING CORRUPTION IN WASHINGTON, ENDING
THE CORRUPTION THAT HAS MET STAGNANT WAGES, RISING COSTS AND A TIGHTER AND TIGHTER SQUEEZE ON THE MIDDLE CLASS. WITH WE CAN DO THAT. ENDING CORRUPTION THAT LEAVES MORE AND MORE WORKING FAMILIES WITH LESS AND LESS HOPE FOR A BETTER FUTURE. AND THAT HAS CRUSHED PEOPLE OF COLOR EVEN HARDER. ENDING THE CORRUPTION THAT HAS SHORT-CHANGED OUR KIDS, OUR SCHOOLS, AND THE VERY SURVIVAL OF THE PLANET THEY WILL INHERIT. FAMILIES IN AMERICA TODAY ARE RUNNING OUT OF TIME. WE HAVE FACED DECADES OF
SHRINKING OPPORTUNITIES, DECADES OF RISING INEQUALITY AND DECADES OF A WIDENING RACIAL WEALTH GAP. BIG BUSINESS HAS CAPTURED AND USED GOVERNMENT TO SERVICE OWN INTEREST AT THE EXPENSE OF SMALLER BUSINESSES AND THE EXPENSE OF THE AMERICAN PEOPLE. I BELIEVE IN MARKET BUT MARKETS WITHOUT RULES ARE THEFT. MARKETS WITHOUT RULES PERPETUATE RACIAL DISCRIMINATION. AND FOR TOO LONG THE RULES HAVE BEEN RIGGED AGAINST PEOPLE WHO JUST WANT A LEVEL PLAYING FIELD.

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THE RULES. NOW, IT WAS NEVER MY PLAN TO RUN FOR OFFICE OF ANY KIND. >> WE'RE GLAD YOU DID -- >> WELL GOOD. BUT NOT MY PLAN. AND I HAVE BEEN IN THIS FIGHT, THOUGH, THIS FIGHT FOR WORKING FAMILIES FOR DECADES. I THOUGHT CREDIT CARD COMPANIES TRIED TO TRICK AND TRACK CONSUMERS, I FOUGHT OUR OWN BANKING ARE REGULATORS TO HOLD THEM ACCOUNTABLE DURING THE FINANCIAL CRASH. I FOUGHT TO BUILD A NEW FEDERAL AGENCY TO PROTECT CONSUMERS FROM PREDATORY AGENCIES. AND I GOT IN THIS
FIGHT, I RAN FOR OFFICE BECAUSE I SAW THAT FAMILIES WERE BEING SQUEEZED HARDER THAN EVER AND TOO MANY POLITICIANS WERE NOT GETTING ENOUGH DONE. I'M HERE TO GET BIG THINGS DONE. BECAUSE HERE IS THE THING ABOUT -- >> WELL THERE YOU HAVE IT. THERE IS A LOT OF TEA LEAVES TO READ THROUGH WITH ELIZABETH WARREN. KASIE HUNT, IT WAS FASCINATING. SHE SEEMED TO COLLECTURE -- TO LECTURE SOME DEMOCRATS ALOSING TO SOME SUPPORTERS, REPORTING TO JOE BIDEN ATTACK ON PETE BUTTIGIEG AND A
WARM CONGRATULATIONS TO AMY KLOBUCHAR. YOU KNOW THIS WOMAN WELL. YOU'RE CAPITOL HILL CORRESPONDENT AND YOU FOLLOW THE SENATORS. READ BETWEEN THE LINES HERE. >> SO IF I'M LISTENING TO, I'M A LITTLE WORRIED ABOUT THE WORD LECTURE. >> I DON'T MEAN LECTURE. I HEAR YOU. >> BUT I ABSOLUTELY TAKE YOUR POINT. AND SHE WAS TALKING ABOUT SOMEBODY BEING WILLING TO BURN DOWN THE PARTY TO BE THE LAST MAN STANDING. THAT WAS A PRETTY CLEAR SHOT RIGHT AT BERNIE
SANDERS AND THE ARGUMENT SHE'S HAKING MORE BROADLY IS THAT THEY DO NEED TO UNIFY BOTH PARTS OF THIS PARTY. I HAVE TO WONDER, IS SHE SETTING HERSELF UP AND TO PICK UP ENOUGH DELEGATES TO TURN INTO A TEAM MAKER TYPE FIGURE AT THE CONVENTION. >> I DID NOT HEAR SOMEBODY THAT WAS GOING TO BE WILLING TO ENDORSE BERNIE SANDERS. >> YOU KNOW WHAT, MY PROBLEM WITH HER MESSAGE, CHUCK, THERE IS A LOT OF BIG -- ABOUT WHAT WAS -- >> THERE WAS A BIG -- >> AND THERE WAS
A PROBLEM OF INCONGRUITY AND SHE'S THE FIGHTER CANDIDATE. FIGHT, FIGHT, FIGHT. AND ON DEBATE STAGES -- >> EVEN BEFORE SHE WAS A SENATOR SHE FOUGHT FOR THE CONSUMER FINANCIAL PROTECTION BOARD THAT TIM GEITHNER AND BARACK OBAMA DIDN'T WANT. >> AND ON THE DEBATE STAGE SHE HAS NOT HESITATED TO SAY WHY WOULD YOU RUN FOR PRESIDENT IF YOU DIDN'T WANT TO GO ON AND DO THE HALF BAKED MEASURES. SHE TOOK ON OTHER MEMBERS OF HER PARTY ON THE DEBATE STAGE. MAYBE NOT IN SUPER
PERSONAL TERMS BUT SHE WASN'T AFRAID TO DISTINGUISH HERSELF FROM HER OPPONENTS. SO SUDDENLY TO SORT OF MAKE HERSELF THIS BIG UNITY CANDIDATE, THAT IS WHAT SHE'S BEEN GOING FOR THE PAST COUPLE OF MONTHS AND IT HASN'T WORKED AND THAT IS WHAT WE'RE SEEING IN THE RESULTS OUT OF NEW HAMPSHIRE. >> KERRY, WE FLASHED THIS BREAKING NEWS BECAUSE WE COULD NOTE THAT BIDEN AND WARREN WILL BE SHUT OUT OF DELEGATES. ONLY THREE CANDIDATES WILL GET DELEGATES. FIVE OUT OF IOWA.
SO THIS IS WHAT WINNOWING LOOKS LIKE. FIVE CANDIDATES GET DELEGATES IN IOWA. THREE CANDIDATES GET DELEGATES IN NEW HAMPSHIRE. >> AND IF YOU HAD ASKED PROBABLY ANYONE TONIGHT OR ANYONE WHO IS REPORTING ON THIS IN MANCHESTER TO GUESS WHICH TWO CANDIDATES WOULD GET SHUTOUT, JOE BIDEN WON'T BE ON THAT AND ELIZABETH WARREN WON'T BE ON THAT. >> HOW ABOUT SIX DAYS AGO. >> AND THERE WAS A TIME ELIZABETH WARREN WAS LEADING IN THE STATE AND IN NEIGHBORING STATES
WHERE SHE'S FROM. WE SAW ALL WEEK WHEN WE WENT TO EVENTS THERE WERE OVER FLOWING CROWDS OF ELIZABETH WARREN FANS MANY FROM THE HOME STATE OF MASSACHUSETTS. SO BIDEN, I JUST THINK THAT GOING BACK TO THE VERY BEGINNING OF THE CAMPAIGN, HE KNEW THAT THIS WAS A POSSIBILITY. AND I THINK A LOT OF PEOPLE WHO WATCHED HIM OVER TIME, HE HAD A LOT OF ADVISERS ADVISING HIM THIS MAY NOT BE YOUR YEAR AND HE DECIDED PERSONALLY IT WAS WORTH DOING EVEN KNOWING THE RISKS IT WOULD TAKE FOR HIS
FAMILY AND HIS LEGACY AND HIS FAMILY. HE KNEW HE WAS PUTTING THAT ON THE LINE AND TO COME OUT OF A STATE AFTER COMING OUT OF IOWA AND IT WAS SUCH DISAPPOINTING AND TO BE SHUTOUT HERE, WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE ENTIRETY, IT HAS TO BE VERY DISAPPOINTING WITH THE DECISIONS THEY MADE WHEN HE DECIDED TO GET IN THE RACE. >> LET'S BRING IN MIKE MEMALI DOWN IN SOUTH CAROLINA WITH THE FORMER VICE PRESIDENT. I'M SURE THEY HAD A FEELING THEY WEREN'T GOING TO WIN A DELEGATE TONIGHT.
THAT IS SORT OF AT THIS POINT I'M GUESSING THEY DON'T REALLY CARE IF IT IS FOURTH OR FIFTH. BUT IS THERE ANY REGRET ABOUT THE HIT THEY TOOK THAT BUTTIGIEG DID THAT IT WAS SURPRISING TO SEE HIM GO NEGATIVE ON A FELLOW PRIMARY OPPONENT LIKE THAT. >> YEAH, CHUCK, ALL PRIMARY LONG BIDEN HAD HAD BEEN ON THE RECEIVING END OF HITS AND HE KEPT SAYING THIS IS NOT A CIRCULAR FIRING SQUAD AND DEMOCRATS NEED TO TRAIN THEIR ATTENTION ON PRESIDENT TRUMP AND THEN WE SAW THE SERIES OF
ATTACKS ESCALATING WITH THAT RATHER SNARKY VIDEO WHEN THE CANDIDATE HIMSELF STOPPED AND BACKED OFF THOSE ATTACKS AT THE END OF THE NEW HAMPSHIRE CAMPAIGN ON SUNDAY AND MONDAY, I MADE A NOTE OF THAT, THE CAMPAIGN PUSHED BACK AND SAID JUST BECAUSE WE'RE BACKING OFF THE BUTTIGIEG ATTACK DOESN'T MEAN WE REGRET IT. IT WAS JUST A MATTER OF THEY GOT THE CONVERSATION IN THE BLOODSTREAM AND THEY FELT THAT WAS SOMETHING THAT NEEDED TO HAPPEN AND BIDEN ADVISERS ARE TELLING ME NOW,
WE'RE LIKELY TO SEE A CROWDED ONE, TWO, THREE LEADERBOARD HERE AND THAT NOT ONLY UNDERSCORES THE ARGUMENT A ALL ALONG WHICH IS THIS IS A LONG HAUL CAMPAIGN AND THIS WILL RE-SET AS WE HEAD INTO SOUTH CAROLINA AND SUPER-TUESDAY AND WHY WOULD BIDEN GET OUT OF THE RACE AT THIS POINT WHEN WE'RE JUST GETTING INTO FERTILE TERRITORY IN TERMS OF THE AFRICAN-AMERICAN VOTE HERE. THEY'RE ALSO MAKING THE ARGUMENT WHICH IS INTERESTING TONIGHT ABOUT AMY KLOBUCHAR. THAT IS A NAME WE
HAVEN'T HEARD THEM TALKING ABOUT IN TERMS OF HOW THEY VIEW THE FIELD. AND THEY'RE ARGUING THAT THEY DON'T SEE A PATH FORWARD FOR HER. SHE OBVIOUSLY HAS BEEN SORT OF TRYING TO BUILD THE PATHWAY AHEAD OF HER AS SHE HASN'T BEEN RAISING A LOT OF MONEY HERSELF ONLY TO SEE IT COMING IN IN THE LATE STAGES. SO THE MORE WE TALKED ABOUT IT LAST WEEK, THE MORE MUDDLED THE TOP OF THE LEADERBOARD, THE MORE THEY STILL BELIEVE THERE IS A PATH FOR JOE BIDEN HERE. >> THE PROBLEM
IS JOE BIDEN, PETE BUTTIGIEG AND AMY KLOBUCHAR ARE ALL FUNDRAISING FROM THE SAME POND. AND WE KNOW THAT DONORS FOLLOW WINNERS AND NOT NECESSARILY LOYAL ANY WAY. IN SOUTH CAROLINA, THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MIKE. AND VERY QUICKLY ONE MORE DROP OUT ACCORDING TO SOURCES THAT MICHAEL BENNET, NOT A SURPRISE. THE DEMOCRATIC SENATOR FROM COLORADO TRIED TO MAKE NEW HAMPSHIRE AND DO THE McCAIN. >> HE DID TRY TO DO THE McCAIN AND HE HAD QUITE THE LAST DITCH TOUR OF THE STATE WITH JAMES CORE
VEL TRYING TO MAKE THE -- AND TAKE BACK THE SENATE. >> MICHAEL BENNET WHO HAD -- A CANCER DIAGNOSIS AND DELAYED THE START OF HIS CAMPAIGN AND THERE IS A LOT OF WHAT IFS THERE FOR HIM IN HIS MIND. I HAVE A FEELING HE'S NOT DONE. >> I DON'T THINK HE IS, CHUCK. ESPECIALLY IF WASHINGTON DOES DECIDE TO REPEAT THE TRUMP MODEL OF GOVERNING AND HE STANDS OPPOSITE TO THAT. >> THE MOST ANTI-WASHINGTON GUY IN WASHINGTON. THAT IS A WAY TO DESCRIBE HIM A LITTLE BIT.
>> HE WANTS THE WASHINGTON TO DO THINGS. BIG THINGS. >> SON OF A DIPLOMAT AND HE VIEWS PUBLIC SERVICE IN AN INTERESTING -- >> IN AN OLD SCHOOL WAY. >> WE'RE GOING TO SNEAK IN A BREAK. YOU'RE WATCHING THE SPECIAL COVERAGE OF THE NEW HAMPSHIRE PRIMARY RIGHT HERE ONLY ON "NBC NEWS NOW." ♪♪ ♪♪ >>> WHITE TERRORIST AND WHITE SUPREMACIST TERRORISM IS NOT LIKE AL QAEDA OR ISIS OR SOME FOREIGN THINGS THAT LOOKS LIKE SOMETHING
WE'VE BEEN FIGHTING IN THE WAR ON TERROR. IT IS ACTUALLY FUNDAMENTALLY AS AMERICAN AS ANYTHING. AND IT IS A THREAT TO THE MULTI-RACIAL AND PLURALISTIC AND EQUAL AND OPEN DEMOCRACY THAT WE'VE BEEN FIGHTING FOR THIS IN COUNTRY SINCE PEOPLE DIED ON THE BATTLEFIELD IN A CIVIL WAR. >>> WE ARE GOING TO START WITH SOMETHING DIFFERENT TONIGHT. THIS IS ONE OF THOSE THINGS YOU HAVE NOT BEEN OTHERWISE HEARING ABOUT IN THE NEWS BUT STICK WITH ME. >> FEED YOUR MIND WITH FRESH
PERSPECTIVE. GET YOUR FAVORITE MSNBC SHOWS NOW AS PODCASTS. >> IF IT IS HOLDING EVERYONE TO THE SAME STANDARD AND IF IT IS SUNDAY, IT'S "MEET THE PRESS." >> YOU'RE WATCHING "NBC NEWS NOW." >> WE HAVE SOME BREAKING NEWS. >> WE BROUGHT MORE TO THE CAUCUS. >> IT IS NEWS MADE FOR YOUR STREAMING WORLD. LIVE WEEK DAYS 3:00 TO 11:00 P.M. EASTERN. >> THE "MEET THE PRESS" CHUCK TODD-CAST WITH SOME OF THE FAVORITE
REPORTERS. GET IT FOR FREE WHEREVER YOU GET YOUR PODCAST. >> NEED YOUR TRUE CRIME FIX ON THE GO. DATELINE EPISODES ARE AVAILABLE AS PODCASTS. MYSTERIES WITH A TWIST. WOW, LISTEN TO DATELINE WHEREVER YOU GET YOUR PODCASTS. >> WE HAVE WITH THE FUNDAMENTAL THING ABOUT HUMAN BEINGS. AND WE HAVE THE WAY THAT WE CONSTITUTE OUR POLITICS AND THE DANGER IS THAT IF OUR POLITICS GROW TOO TRIBAL AND THEN WE'LL LOSE THE WAY OF TALKING. >> WHY IS THIS HAPPENING WITH CHRIS HAYES.
SUBSCRIBE NOW. ♪♪ >> -- I THINK IT IS FITTING FOR US TO END THE CAMPAIGN TONIGHT. BUT I WANT TO REMIND YOU OF WHY I GOT IN THIS RACE, WHY I STAYED IN THIS RACE AND WHY WE HAVE TO STAY IN THIS TIGHT. I GOT IN THIS RACE BECAUSE I LOVE OUR COUNTRY, I LOVE AMERICA. I LOVE THE -- >>> MICHAEL BENNET THERE TELLING US HE WAS GETTING OUT. MARK MURRAY, IT REMINDS ME THAT NOT ONLY DID HE GET IN LATE, BUT WE HAVE TWO COLORADO MODERATE DEMOCRATS ALL BOTH RUNNING WHO BY THE WAY
WERE VERY CLOSE FRIENDS. JOHN HICKENLOOPER, THE FORMER GOVERNOR AND NOW THE LEADING SENATOR IN THE SENATE RACE THERE BUT IT REMINDED ME HOW IT IS AMAZING THERE IS NO GOVERNOR. WE HAVE NO GOVERNOR AND MAYBE THAT PETE IS THE GOVERNOR OF THIS FIELD THAT IS LEFT. AND MAYBE MICHAEL BLOOMBERG WILL SEE IF HE COULD PLAY THE ROLE THAT THE MAYORS ARE SERVING AS THE NONWASHINGTON ELECTED OFFICIAL BUT IT IS STUNNING THAT WE WEND THIS LONG WITHOUT A GOVERNOR. >> I THINK YOU'RE RIGHT.
THAT BUTTIGIEG HAS BEEN THE OUTSIDER IN THE CONTEST BUT TWO FACTORS ARE SO IMPORTANT IN THIS RACE. NUMBER ONE, I CAN'T UNDERESTIMATE THE SIZE OF THE FIELD AND NOT ONLY WITH BENNETT AND HICKENLOOPER BUT BETO O'ROURKE AND CORY BOOKER. >> I HAD ALMOST FORGOTTEN ABOUT HIM. I LOVE THAT. >> I'M CAUCUSING FOR -- >> BILL DE BLASIO. >> BESIDES THE FIELD BEING -- BEINGEE NORMOUS AND THAT WAS HOW TO PICK FROM THE MENU AT THE CHEESECAKE FACTORY. THAT IS FACTOR
NUMBER ONE. AND FACTOR NUMBER TWO IS JOE BIDEN SUCKING THE OXYGEN FOR EVERYBODY THOUGHT THE HAMBURGER COULD BE SUITABLE ENOUGH FOR ME ON MY DECISION AND LOOK AT NOW AND YOU END UP HAVING A SITUATION WHERE THAT STATE IS NOT IN THERE AND I THINK THAT IS WHAT CREATED SO MUCH INSTABILITY IN THE RACE. >> IT HAS DONE A COUPLE OF THINGS. IT HAS CLEARED A PATH FOR BERNIE SANDERS THAT MAY NOT HAVE BEEN THERE HAD THE FIELD BEEN MORE CONSOLIDATED AND GIVEN HIM THE CHANCE TO BUILD THE
DELEGATE LEAD THAT WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT. AND ON THE BIDEN QUESTION, TOO, AND THE FUNDRAISING, THAT IS ANOTHER AS PECK I THINK WE'VE SEEN DRIVING THIS BECAUSE HE AND SOME OF THE OTHERS ARE STILL DOING A TRADITIONAL WAY OF FUNDRAISING IN THIS RACE AND IT IS A SHRINKING POOL OF DONORS. THIS IS WHY I THINK THE FUNDRAISING WAS LEADING INDICATOR FOR JOE BIDEN BECAUSE THEY WERE THE ONES SEEING HIM IN THE ROOMS, THEY WERE UNDERSTANDING WHAT KIND OF CANDIDATE HE WAS CAPABLE OF
BEING AT THIS STAGE IN HIS CAREER AND ONE OF THE VERY DIFFICULT THINGS TO TALK ABOUT. BUT YOU SAW IT IN HIS PERFORMANCE ON THE TRAIL HERE IN NEW HAMPSHIRE. AND THE VOTERERS THAT YOU TALKED TO SAW IT. >> AND WE'RE GOING TO CHECK IN WITH SHAQ BREWSTER IN SANDERS' HEADQUARTERS. AND I WONDER HOW MUCH THE SENATOR IS THANKFUL FOR AMY KLOBUCHAR DEBATE AND YOU REALIZE THIS COULD HAVE GONE A DIFFERENT WAY FOR SENATOR SANDERS HAD KLOBUCHAR AND BUTTIGIEG NOT FLIPPED THE ELECTABILITY
VOTE. >> THAT IS A GREAT POINT THAT YOU MENTIONED, CHUCK. BECAUSE YOU REMEMBER IT WAS IN THE HOURS AFTER THE IOWA CAUCUS WHERE SENATOR SANDERS TURNED HIS SIGHTS FROM WHERE WE THERE WHICH IS ON JOE BIDEN AND PIVOTED RIGHT TO PETE BUTTIGIEG. HIS CAMPAIGN WAS OPEN ABOUT BEING NERVOUS ABOUT THE RISE IN THE POLLS THAT YOU SAW MAYOR PETE HAVE AND THE SURGE AND MOMENTUM COMING FROM HIS CAMPAIGN AND SANDERS LAUNCHED ATTACKS OF HIS OWN. AND TIED MAYOR PETE TO THE BILLIONAIRE CLASS AND
WAS A FAFRT -- FAVORITE AND STARTED A WEBSITE PETE BILLIONAIRES DOTCOM AND MOCKING PETE AND THE CAMPAIGN GETTING AN ASSIST FROM THE OTHER CANDIDATES IN THIS RACE. FIRST IT WAS VICE PRESIDENT BIDEN WHO WENT AFTER MAYOR PETE AND JOINED THIS PILE ON AND THEN ON FRIDAY NIGHT AMY KLOBUCHAR WENT AFTER EXPERIENCE. WHAT THAT HAPPENS -- AND THIS IS A KEY STRATEGY FOR THE CAMPAIGN WHERE THEY WERE NERVOUS ABOUT HIS RISE AND THEY THINK ALL OF THE ATTENTION, THE NEGATIVE ATTENTION, IT KIND OF
PULLED BACK THE MOMENTUM HE WAS HAVING AND THAT IS A REFLECTION OF WHAT YOU'RE SEEING IN THE POLLS AND IN THESE RESULTS RIGHT NOW. NOW IT IS STILL EARLY. WE'LL WAIT FOR THE REST OF THE RESULTS. BUT THE CAMPAIGN IS FEELING GOOD ABOUT WHAT THEY'RE SEEING SO FAR. THE AUDIENCE HERE IS FEELING GOOD. THEY COUNTED DOWN TO THE TOP OF THE HOUR ONCE THE POLLS CLOSE. EVERY TIME YOU SEE EXIT POLLS THUB THERE IS A BIG CHEER. PEOPLE ARE ARRIVING HERE FOR A LONG PERIOD OF TIME. THERE WAS
MORE MEDIA HERE THAN SUPPORTERS. THERE IS A GOOD FEELING THAT THEY HAVE HERE. THEY'RE EXCITED ABOUT WHAT THEY'RE SEEING, CHUCK. >> SHAQ BREWSTER AT SANDERS' NEW HAMPSHIRE HEADQUARTERS. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. WANT TO BRING IN DAVE WASSERMAN AND NBC ELECTION ANALYST FOR US. AND BEFORE I LET YOU, BECAUSE YOU WANT TO REMIND VIEWERS THAT A LOT COULD HAPPEN HERE TONIGHT BUT DAVE ZWEIGLE HAS A FUN NUGGET. IF BERNIE SANDERS COULD WIN THE THUPS PRIMARY WITH LESS THAN 28% OR AT
28%, HE'LL SIMULTANEOUSLY HOLD THE RECORD FOR THE HIGHEST PERCENTAGE OF A DEMOCRATIC PRIMARY IN NEW HAMPSHIRE HISTORY AND THE LOWEST PERCENTAGE FOR A NEW HAMPSHIRE VICTOR IN NEW HAMPSHIRE PRIMARY HISTORY. SO PUT THAT IN YOUR FUN FACTOID BAG THERE, MR. WASSERMAN. >> THAT LOOKS LIKE IT WILL HAPPEN. BUT WHAT IS REMARKABLE IS IF YOU ADD UP SANDERS AND WARREN, YOU GET 36. IF YOU ADD UP KLOBUCHAR AND BUTTIGIEG AND BIDEN, YOU GET 53. SO IT IS THE SAME PATTERN WE SAW IN IOWA WHERE
YOU HAVE THE PRAGMATIC WIN OF THE DEMOCRATS ADDING UP TO A MAJORITY AND THEY ARE NOT IN THE MOOD FOR BERNIE REVOLUTION AND THE RESULTS COULD BE THAT BERNIE BENEFITS FROM THE MUDDLES MODERATE FIELD THAT SHOWS NO SIGN OF RESOLUTION HEADING INTO SOUTH CAROLINA OR SUPER-TUESDAY BECAUSE THE TWO MODERATES WHO CAME OUT ON TOP IN NEW HAMPSHIRE TONIGHT WAS CLEARLY BUTTIGIEG AND KLOBUCHAR WHO DON'T HAVE THE SUPPORT OR INFRASTRUCTURE IN SOUTH CAROLINA AND MANY OF THE SUPER-TUESDAY STATES
THAT WOULD REALLY COMPETE WITH BLOOMBERG'S MONEY OR BIDEN SUPPORT AMONG AFRICAN-AMERICAN BUT THAT IS A MAJOR QUESTION AS TO WHERE THAT WILL GO AFTER TONIGHT. >> DAVE, STICK WITH ME HERE. I HOPE YOU HAVE A MONITOR. I WANT TO SINGLE OUT ONE KEY TOWNSHIP COUNTY THAT IS A SERIES OF TOWNSHIPS AND A DIFFERENT WAY OUR FRIENDS IN NEW ENGLAND ORGANIZE THEIR ELECTION RESULTS FOR US. BUT KEENE WAS HUGE FOR BERNIE FOUR YEARS AGO. HOW BIG WAS KEENE? THIS IS HOW BIG. HE GOT 72% OUT OF KEENE.
RIGHT NOW, LESS THAN HALF OF THAT AT 34%, PETE BUTTIGIEG WITH 22% AND AMY WITH 18%. THIS IS A LOT OF YOUNG VOTERS ARE HERE. BUT WE ALREADY HAVE NEARLY HALF OF THE ELECTORATE IN KEENE AND WE'VE SEEN IN THE EXIT POLLS THE COALITION THAT BERNIE SANDERS PLEDGED TO CREATE IS YET TO CREATE IN EITHER IOWA OR NEW HAMPSHIRE IF YOU JUST LOOK AT THE RAW TOTALS THERE, MR. WASSERMANN. >> YEAH AND WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT TURNOUT EXPLOSION BUT ELECTABILITY CONCERNS AND BERNIE IS DOING
WELL IN THE CITIES AND IN MANCHESTER AND WITH LIBERAL ACTIVISTS AND ALONG THE VERMONT BORDER BUT THE BIG QUESTION IS WHAT DO THOSE SUBURBAN TOWNS ALONG THE MASSACHUSETTS BORDER WITH A LOT OF VOTES THAT WE HAVEN'T SEEN REPORT, WHAT ARE THOSE GOING TO DO? IS PETE GOING TO WIN SOME OF THEM? IS THERE ANY COMEBACK POTENTIAL LEFT FOR PETE IN THOSE KIND OF TOWNS? I DON'T THINK SO. BUT IT IS A CLEAR STATEMENT THAT BERNIE SANDERS DOES NOT HAVE THE BREADTH OF COALITION IN NEW HAMPSHIRE
THAT HE HAD IN 2016. SOME OF HIS SUPPORTERS ARE CONCERNED ABOUT WHAT HIS NOMINATION MIGHT MEAN IN THE FALL. >> DAVE WASSERMAN IN WASHINGTON FOR US. THANK YOU. WE'RE GOING TO SNEAK IN A BREAK IN HERE. YOU'RE WATCHING NBC NEWS, SPECIAL COVERAGE OF THE NEW HAMPSHIRE PRESIDENTIAL PRIMARY ON "NBC NEWS NOW." ♪♪ ♪♪ ♪♪ ♪ >>> WHITE TERRORISM AND WHITE SUPREMACIST TERRORISM IS NOT SOME FOREIGN THING THAT LOOKS LIKE SOMETHING THAT WE'VE BEN
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NEW HAMPSHIRE PRESIDENTIAL PRIMARY ONLY HERE ON "NBC NEWS NOW." I'M KASIE HUNT. CHUCK TODD WILL BE BACK IN JUST A MOMENT AND WE'RE WAITING FOR JOE BIDEN, EXPECTED TO SPEAK IN JUST A FEW MINUTES FROM SOUTH CAROLINA. NOT HERE IN THE GRANITE STATE. WE'RE JOINED NOW BY
BOSTON GLOBE POLITICAL REPORTER JAMES KINDLE AND OF COURSE NBC NEWS WHITE HOUSE CORRESPONDENT KRISTIN WELKER. WE ALSO HAVE MSNBC HOST JOSHUA JOHNSON IN FUTURE-CAST AND THE CHIEF PUBLIC AFFAIRS OFFICER AT MOVE-ON.ORG CAREEN JOHN PIERRE. AND KRISTEN, YOU SPOKE WITH THE FORMER VICE PRESIDENT TODAY. A PRETTY DIFFICULT DAY FOR HIM IN NEW HAMPSHIRE. TO THE POINT WHERE PRETTY STUNNING THAT HE WENT -- HAS BEEN THE FRONT-RUNNER ALL OF THIS TIME AND NOT EVEN WINNING A DELEGATE IN NEW HAMPSHIRE.
>> NOT EVEN WINNING A DELEGATE HERE IN NEW HAMPSHIRE, KASIE. IT CAN'T BE OVERSTATED. THIS IS ANOTHER DEVASTATING SETBACK FOR THE BIDEN CAMPAIGN. FOR THE FORMER VICE PRESIDENT, HIS ENTIRE ARGUMENT WAS CENTERED AROUND ELECTABILITY AND HE WAS THE STRONGEST CANDIDATE TO BEAT PRESIDENT TRUMP AND NOW THE RESULTS IN IOWA AND WHAT WE'RE SEEING IN NEW HAMPSHIRE, AT THIS POINT IN TIME THAT CALLS THAT INTO QUESTION. I SPOKE TO HIM EARLIER TODAY. I SAID WHAT MESSAGE ARE YOU SENDING
TO VOTERS IN NEW HAMPSHIRE BY GOING TO SOUTH CAROLINA TONIGHT. ARE YOU CONCERNED ABOUT THAT? HE SAID WE'RE STILL FIGHTING FOR EVERY VOTE HERE BUT CLEARLY, CLEARLY HE THINKS THAT SOUTH CAROLINA IS THE PLACE THAT HE'S GOING TO PUT ALL OF HIS ENERGY THAT RIGHT NOW. TO TRY TO TURN THIS RACE AROUND FOR HIM. HE BELIEVES THAT THE ELECTORATE IS MORE DIVERSE THERE AND HAS MORE SUPPORT AMONG AFRICAN-AMERICAN VOTERS AND WOOF HEARD HIM TALK QUITE A BIT ABOUT THAT. SO I'VE ASKED HIM
POINT BLANK, IT IS SOUTH CAROLINA OR BUST. HE WAS NOT WILLING TO ACKNOWLEDGE THAT. >> I THINK THAT IS A LOOMING REALITY. JAMES KINDLE, KRISTEN MENTIONS HOW JOE BIDEN WAS IN NEW HAMPSHIRE IN THE CLOSING HOURS HERE. WHAT KIND OF IMPACT DO YOU THINK THAT HAS? >> HE WAS ON THE -- AS WE TALKED ABOUT BEFORE. NEW HAMPSHIRE LOVES THE COMEBACK STORY AND THAT HAPPENS AGAIN AND AGAIN. HE NEVER REALLY GAVE THEM THAT SORT OF ATTABOY. MORE OF AN INTELLECTUAL ARGUMENT. IT IS AMAZING IF YOU
STEP BACK FOR A SECOND, HE WAS THE FORMER VICE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES. HE'S RUN FOR PRESIDENT TWICE BEFORE. BOTH TIMES HE NEVER MADE IT TO THE NEW HAMPSHIRE PRIMARY. >> MARK MURRAY MENTIONED HE'S YET TO WIN A STATE IN A PRESIDENTIAL RACE. >> ALSO TRUE. AND WHAT IS AMAZING HERE IS THAT HE WAS NEVER THE INEVITABLE NOMINEE AND HE WAS THE FRONT-RUNNER FOR A VERY LONG TIME. BUT HE WAS NEVER ABLE TO CREATE A MOMENTUM OTHER THAN THE FACT THAT HE STARTED OUT SO
STRONG. >> CORRINE JOHN PIERRE, TALK ABOUT WHERE BIDEN GOES FROM HERE IN SOUTH CAROLINA. BECAUSE THERE IS SO MANY CONVERSATIONS PARTICULARLY ABOUT THE AFRICAN-AMERICAN VOTE AND THE SHORTHANDED ACT LIKE IT IS A BLOCK AND IT IS NOT NECESSARILY WHICH IS IMPORTANT TO UNDERSCORE I THINK. THAT SAID, THE NARRATIVE WITH JOE BIDEN IS HE'S TIEING HIMSELF TO BARACK OBAMA. THE THEORY ALWAYS WAS THAT BLACK VOTERS NEVER WENT FOR OBAMA UNTIL HE PROVED THAT HE COULD WIN. AND THE JOE BIDEN
CAMPAIGN IS STILL SAYING AFRICAN-AMERICAN VOTERS ARE HIS FIRE WALL AND SO FAR HE HASN'T SHOWN THEM HE CAN WIN. >> AND THE REASON THAT BLACK VOTER STAYED WITH BIDEN FOR SO LONG, YES, THAT CONNECTION TO BARACK OBAMA BEING THE NUMBER TWO THAT AFFECTION THAT THEY HAD FOR JOE BIDEN. BUT YOU CAN'T HAVE THAT ELECTABILITY ARGUMENT IF YOU KEEP LOSING STATES, ESPECIALLY BEFORE SOUTH CAROLINA. BLACK VOTERS ARE INDEED WATCHING. WE HAVE TO REMEMBER THE NUMBER ONE THING FOR THEM IS
TO BEAT DONALD TRUMP. AND IT IS GOING TO BE INCREDIBLY PROBLEMATIC FOR BIDEN. HE HAS TO RAISE MONEY. HOW IS HE GOING TO HOLD UP THE FUNDRAISING FOR THE NEXT COUPLE OF WEEKS AND HAVE THAT OPERATION ON THE GROUND IF HE'S NOT PUTTING SOME WINS ON THE BOARD. AND LIKE YOU SAID, AND DAVID PLUS HAS SAID THIS MANY TIMES ON THIS AIR, IS THAT IOWA, THAT WIN FOR IOWA FOR OBAMA GAINED SOUTH CAROLINA, THE BLACK VOTERS THERE, THE CONFIDENCE THAT HE WAS VIABLE. THAT HE WAS ELECTABLE. AND BIDEN JUST
DOESN'T HAVE THAT EXCEPT UNDERSTANDING AND KNOWING BLACK VOTERS AND UNDERSTANDING AND KNOWING HE'S A STORMER VICE PRESIDENT AND HE LOOKS LIKE AND SEEMS THAT HE COULD TAKE ON DONALD TRUMP. SO THIS IS -- THIS IS NUMBER FIVE IN NEW HAMPSHIRE IS A BLOW. >> AND WHAT IS YOUR SENSE OF WHERE THIS SUPPORT GOES IF, IN FACT, JOE BIDEN LOSES SUPPORT AMONG AFRICAN-AMERICANS AND PETE BUTTIGIEG HAS REALLY STRUGGLED WITH AFRICAN-AMERICAN VOTERS AND BERNIE SANDERS IS DOING BETTER. HIS
CAMPAIGN WORKED HARD ON THIS BUT HE'S ALSO STRUGGLING WITH AFRICAN-AMERICAN VOTERS IN THE PAST. WHERE DO THEY TURN? >> IT IS BEEN A CONVERSATION THAT WE'VE ALL BEEN HAVING. LIKE AMY KLOBUCHAR IS GOING TO HAVE A PROBLEM WITH BLACK VOTERS BECAUSE OF HER RECORD AS A PROSECUTOR IN MINNESOTA. PETE BUTTIGIEG AS WE KNOW IN SOUTH BEND MAYOR HE'S HAD MULTIPLE PROBLEMS WITH HIS -- WITH THE BLACK COMMUNITY AND FIRING THE PLACE CHIEF THERE AND OTHER ISSUES THAT HAVE COME UP AND
DURING THE CAMPAIGN TRAIL. THE PEOPLE THAT WE'RE HEARING THAT I'M HEARING OR THE PERSON IS -- A LOT OF BLACK VOTERS ARE LOOKING AT BLOOMBERG AS SOMEONE THAT THEY COULD GO TO. PEOPLE THAT I'VE BEEN TALKING TO FROM IN THE SOUTHERN STATES IN PARTICULAR LIKE SOUTH CAROLINA WHICH IS A KEY IMPORTANT STATE FOR JOE BIDEN AS WE'RE TALKING ABOUT AND THE REASON WHY IS THEY SEE HIM AS BEING LIKE THIS REAL BILLIONAIRE THAT COULD TAKE ON DONALD TRUMP. THEY SEE THAT HE'S GETTING
UNDER DONALD TRUMP'S SKIN. AND LIKE I SAID -- >> WELL TRUMP HAS SHOWN THAT HIMSELF. >> RIGHT. BY TEETING CONSTANTLY ABOUT HIM. AND THE MONEY THAT HE IS SPENDING ON AIR AND TELLING HIS STORY, GIVING THAT NARRATIVE TO VOTERS ABOUT WHAT HE IS AND HE HASN'T BEEN TESTED. SO HE LOOKS GOOD. HE LOOKS LIKE SOMEONE THAT COULD TAKE ON DONALD TRUMP. AND SO THAT IS KIND OF AN INTERESTING DEVELOPMENT AS WELL. IF BIDEN GOES DOWN, I THINK THAT IS WITH WHERE A LOT OF AFRICAN-AMERICAN
VOTERS WILL GOING TO GO. THEY'RE GOING TO EXPLORE BLOOMBERG IN A REAL WAY. >> WE'RE SEEING THAT FIGHT START TO PLAYOUT WITH THE HIS COMMENTS ABOUT THE STOP AND FRISK POLICY IN NEW YORK CITY. LET'S TURN TO GARRETT HAAKE LIVE IN CONCORD, NEW HAMPSHIRE, WITH THE KLOBUCHAR CAMPAIGN. GOOD TO SEE YOU. I THINK MY QUESTION IS HOW DOES AMY KLOBUCHAR, AND THIS IS A BIG NIGHT FOR HER WITHOUT QUESTION, THE DEBATE BUMP AND HER PERFORMANCE WAS REAL BUT WHERE DOES SHE GO FROM HERE.
DOES HE HAVE THE MONEY AND THE ORGANIZATION AND THE JUICE TO TURN THIS INTO SOMETHING OR IS IT A STEEP ROAD AHEAD FOR HER? >> Reporter: THAT IS THE REAL CHALLENGE, KASIE. THEY'RE BUILDING THE AIRPLANE IN MID-AIR. KLOBUCHAR ONLY HAS ABOUT 30 STAFFERS IN NEVADA. A LOT THEM WENT THERE IMMEDIATELY AFTER IOWA WAS OVER. THEY JUST CHANGED STATES. SH OF THEM SHE GOBBLED UP FROM BETO O'ROURKE WHEN HIS CAMPAIGN CEASED TO BE A THING. WITH ADS AND NEVADA TRYING TO INTRODUCE HERSELF TO
THE AUD THERE BUT SHE HAS A CHALLENGE AHEAD AND SHE HAS TO INTRODUCE HERSELF TO THE VOTERS IN NEVADA. AND EVEN LESS SO IN SOUTH CAROLINA AND SUPER-TUESDAY STATES DON'T GET ME STARTED. THIS IS SOMEONE WHO BET ON A GREAT SHOWING IN IOWA TO STAY IN THE FIGHT AND THEN CREATE THIS MOMENT HERE IN NEW HAMPSHIRE. I TALKED ABOUT HER IN THE WEEK AND SHE SAID LOOK I'LL CONTINUE TO CLEAR EVERY HURDLE PUT IN FRONT OF ME AND THAT IS A REASONABLE POLITICAL STRATEGY IN THE EARLY FOUR STATES,
ONCE YOU GET INTO SUPER-TUESDAY THERE ARE HURDLES AB YOU HAVE TO JUMP OVER THERE. FOLKS ARE ALREADY VOTING IN CALIFORNIA. SO THIS IS A CHALLENGE FOR THE CAMPAIGN. THEY'RE TRYING TO TURN TONIGHT INTO A MAJOR FUND RAISING OPPORTUNITY TO BOOST HER NAME RECOGNITION AND HOPE TO BUILD WHAT THEY DON'T WANT TO HAVE HAPPEN IS HAVE HER GO THE WAY OF SOMEONE ELSE WHO STOOD IN THIS VERY BALLROOM FOUR YEARS AGO AFTER A GOOD NIGHT IN NEW HAMPSHIRE, JOHN KASICH. SOMEBODY WHO EMERGED AS A
CHALLENGER TO THE NOMINEE THAT ENDED UP THAT WAY. SO AHEAD OF AMY KLOBUCHAR AT LEAST THEY HAVE SOME WIND AT THEIR BACK AND NOT A LOT OF OTHER CANDIDATES CAN SAY RIGHT NOW. >> AND OF COURSE NO SIGN THAT ELIZABETH WARREN THAT WE WERE QUESTIONING AS WE WERE LISTENING TO HER WHETHER SHE WOULD DROP OUT OR THROW HER SUPPORT TO AMY KLOBUCHAR. CLEARLY NOT READY TO DO ANYTHING OF THE SORT THERE. GARRETT HAAKE, YOU ARE IN AN INTERESTING PLACE FOR THE EVENING. THANK YOU. THE BIDEN
CAMPAIGN HAS BEEN BRIEFING FOR A POTENTIALLY DISAPPOINTING FINISH TONIGHT AND ANNOUNCED TODAY THAT BIDEN WOULDN'T BE IN NEW HAMPSHIRE FOR TONIGHT'S RESULTS. LET'S BRING IN MARIANNE SOTOMAYOR FOLLOWING THE BIDEN CAMPAIGN. AND CHUCK TODD BACK WITH US FROM THE NBC NEWS SPECIAL. >> HELLO. >> WHAT IS THE STATUS OF -- WE WERE STRUCK EARLIER BY THE STATE OF THE BALLROOM BEHIND YOU, THIS OF COURSE THE EVENT THAT BIDEN IS HAVING HERE IN NEW HAMPSHIRE WHERE HE AND DR.
BIDEN ARE NO LONGER AND A REALLY DISAPPOINTING FINISH THAT HAD . >> Reporter: SORRY, KASIE, I'M TRYING TO HEAR YOU. I'M BE -- WE HAVE VALERIE BIDEN OWENS BEHIND ME. SHE IS SUPPOSED TO BE INTRODUCING HER BROTHER MOMENTARILY, WHO IS GOING TO BE ADDRESSING THE NUMBER OF SUPPORTERS HERE. THERE IS ROUGHLY ABOUT 100 PEOPLE IN THE ROOM. BUT MANY OF THE PEOPLE THAT I TALKED TO ARE VOLUNTEERS. PEOPLE WHO HAVE COME FROM OUT OF TOWN, FROM PENNSYLVANIA TO NEW YORK. VERY FEW PEOPLE
FROM NEW HAMPSHIRE HERE. BUT OF THE PEOPLE THAT I DID TALK TO, MANY PEOPLE WERE SURPRISED. THEY WERE EXPECTING BIDEN TO BE HERE TONIGHT AND THEY DIDN'T FIND OUT UNTIL THEY CAME INTO THE BALLROOM. OBVIOUSLY, VERY DIFFERENT FROM WHEN I TALKED TO YOU A COUPLE HOURS AGO WHEN THERE WAS NO ONE IN THE ROOM. STILL PEOPLE ARE SAYING I TALKED TO THEM. I SAID, HEY, WERE YOU SURPRISED, ARE YOU UPSET THAT BIDEN ISN'T HERE? AND AS YOU CAN SEE, THERE IS A LIVE STREAM ACTUALLY OVER MY
SHOULDER RIGHT NOW WITH BIDEN AND DR. JILL BIDEN NOW ADDRESSING THE ROOM. >> WHY DON'T WE LISTEN IN TO THAT. >> ALL RIGHT. WE WILL KEEP ON MONITORING YOUR LIVE SHOT THERE AS YOU HAVE TO JUMP BACK TO THAT. >> I THINK WE ALL EXPECTED MORE OF A BIDEN IN SOUTH CAROLINA AND THEN ADDRESSING THE NEW HAMPSHIRE REPORTERS. >> YEAH. AN INTERESTING DECISION. I THINK NOTEWORTHY THAT MARIAN A REPORTING -- I MEAN, IN NEW HAMPSHIRE, IT WAS HARD TO FIND PEOPLE FROM NEW
HAMPSHIRE AT MANY OF THOSE EVENTS. JAMES. >> LOOK AT SATURDAY NIGHT. SATURDAY NIGHT WAS A BIG DEMOCRATIC DINNER AND IT WAS KIND OF A TURNOUT MECHANISM TO SHOW A LITTLE BIT OF INFRASTRUCTURE. MAY FAVORITE PART WAS WARREN HAD SO MANY SEATS. A LITTLE SLIVER AND PEOPLE SAID, YOU ARE NOT GOING TO BUY THE TICKETS, WE WILL BUY THEM. WARREN, BIDEN, WARREN BECAUSE BIDEN COULDN'T BRING OUT MORE THAN 250 PEOPLE. >> LET'S CHECK IN WITH THE BUTTIGIEG CAMPAIGN. VAN HILLIARD, ONE
OF OUR ROAD WARRIORS WITH PETE BUTTIGIEG. IT'S INTERESTING. JUST LIKE IOWA, HE HAS ENOUGH -- HE IS DOING WELL ENOUGH IN -- WELL ENOUGH IN SOME OF THESE AREAS, HE DOESN'T BLOW ANYBODY OUT, BUT HE HAS AN ACROSS THE BOARD PERFORMANCE TONIGHT WHICH IS SIMILAR TO WHAT WE SAW AT LEAST DEMOGRAPHICALLY IN IOWA. >> RIGHT NOW WELL ENOUGH, BETTER THAN ANYBODY ELSE BESIDES BERNIE SANDERS BE IS DOING HERE. YOU KNOW, FOR THE LAST 48 HOURS REALLY I THINK WE HAVE BEEN TALKING ABOUT THOSE
INDEPENDENT VOTERS. 415,000 REGISTERED INDEPENDENT VOTERS HERE IN THE STATE TAKING PART IN THIS PROCESS. THE NBC NEWS EXIT POLLING, DURING THE BREAKDOWN OF THE INDIVIDUALS THAT DESCRIBE THEMSELVES AS INDEPENDENT VOTERS THAT TOOK PART IN THE DEMOCRATIC PRIMARY TODAY, THEY ACCOUNTED FOR 45%. OF THAT 25% VOTED FOR BERNIE SANDERS. 24% FOR AMY KLOBUCHAR. 21% FOR PETE BUTTIGIEG ALL THE WAY TO 8% WAS JOE BIDEN. I THINK WHAT IS MORE TELLING ABOUT THAT IS THAT FOUR YEARS AGO THAT NUMBER, THE
SHARE OF INDEPENDENT VOTERS WENT BY 70% TO 25% FOR BERNIE SANDERS. SO IT'S CLEAR. HOW SIZABLE? PERHAPS ENOUGH TO BRING THIS A LITTLE BIT CLOSER FOR PETE BUTTIGIEG AND AMY KLOBUCHAR. OBVIOUSLY, PETE BUTTIGIEG WAS LOOKING IN THIS RACE TO DRAW AN EVEN LARGER PORTION OF THE INDEPENDENT VOTERS. CLEARLY AMY KLOBUCHAR CUT INTO IT. WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE PETE BUTTIGIEG CAMPAIGN, YOU KNOW, TAKE INTO ACCOUNT ONE YEAR AGO HE HAD NO OPERATION HERE. BERNIE SANDERS AND ELIZABETH
WARREN WERE FROM A NEIGHBORING STATE AND PETE BUTTIGIEG OVER THE COURSE OF THE YEAR WAS ABLE TO BUILD A GROUND ORGANIZATION ALONG WITH A VOLUNTEER NETWORK AND DOWN TO JUST YESTERDAY HE VISITED A TOWN, CHUCK, YOU WERE WITH ME, IN PLYMOUTH. A TOWN OF 7,000. THIS WENT BY 15 PERCENTAGE POINTS FOR DONALD TRUMP IN THE GENERAL. BERNIE SANDERS WON IT 80 -- 20% OVER HILLARY CLINTON TWO YEARS AGO. WHERE DOES PETE BUTTIGIEG GO FOR A FINAL STOP? THERE. THEY HAVEN'T GOTTEN RESULTS IN FROM
THERE. WHILE WE PAY ATTENTION TO MANCHESTER, IT'S A LOT OF THE COMMUNITIES WHERE THE PETE BUTTIGIEG CAMPAIGN PUT IN RESOURCES AND TIME TO TRY TO PICK UP THE VOTES ALONG THE WAY IN SOME OF THESE MORE RURAL COMMUNITIES AND MAKE THE CASE TO THE REST OF THE COUNTRY THAT WE WERE ABLE TO WIN IN RURAL PARTS OF IOWA AND NEW HAMPSHIRE. >> VAUGHN HILLIARD AT BUTTIGIEG HEADQUARTERS. THEY ARE GETTING EXCITED AS THEY SEE MORE RESULTS. WHAT I FIND INTERESTING, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE
CANNOT OVERLOOK IS THAT AMY KLOBUCHAR MAY HAVE SAVED BERNIE SANDERS IN THE NEW HAMPSHIRE PRIMARY. >> THAT'S RIGHT. >> HER PERFORMANCE ON FRIDAY NIGHT. >> HER PERFORMANCE ON FRIDAY NIGHT. REMARKABLE TO SORT OF WATCH THE REACTION AND WATCH THIS HAPPEN IN REAL TIME, AND YOU SEE CERTAINLY TRYING TO CAPITALIZE ON EVERY EVENT. ONE THING THAT I HAVE FOUND NOTABLE, CHUCK, ABOUT THIS ENTIRE MOMENT, YOU ASK FORMER VICE PRESIDENT JOE BIDEN WHAT HAYES PATH IS. HE TALKS
ABOUT SOUTH CAROLINA. HE TALKS ABOUT SUPER TUESDAY. I ASKED SENATOR WARREN TODAY WHAT'S YOUR PATH AFTER NEW HAMPSHIRE, AND SHE SAID TO BRING PEOPLE TOGETHER. TO BRING THE PARTY TOGETHER. AND I THINK SHE HAS A TOUGHER TIME IDENTIFYING WHAT HAPPENS NEXT, WHERE DOES SHE GO FROM HERE. >> SHE GAVE US A HINT WHERE SHE IS UNCOMFORTABLE GOING. I DO THINK -- >> THAT'S RIGHT. >> THE SUBTEXT OF HER ILLUSIONS TO THE PROGRESSIVE -- TO BERNIE SANDERS SUPPORTERS -- AND WE
KNOW THERE IS SOME PERSONAL ANIMOSITY. >> RIGHT. >> CAN SHE POSITION HERSELF AS SOMEBODY THAT HELPS A MODERATE APPEAL TO THE CROWD, RIGHT? LIKE THAT -- >> AND THAT'S HER CHALLENGE. >> CAN SHE BE THAT -- >> BUT SHE NEED TO BE A LITTLE BIT SHARPER IN ORDER TO DO THAT? SHE IS STILL NOT READY TO REALLY MAKE THAT SHARP DISTINCTION. >> HERE IS WHAT WE ARE ALL WONDERING. WHEN IS ONE OF THE TOP THREE COMING OUT -- DO YOU TRY TO COME OUT BEFORE ONE OR MORE
OF THE NETWORKS DECIDE THEY GET CLOSE TO CALLING THIS? LET'S GET THE LATEST DEVELOPMENTS FROM TEAM SANDERS AND SHAQ BREWSTER. SHAQ, AS RESULTS ARE COMING IN, WE SAW THAT HIS LEAD EXPANDED TO FIVE PERCENTAGES POINTS. THAT HAD TO MAKE THEM FEEL A LITTLE BIT BETTER. WE KNOW THE SOUTHERN NEW HAMPSHIRE TOWNSHIP HADN'T REPORTED. WE DIDN'T KNOW WHAT THE LATE VOTERS WERE GOING TO DO. HE HAS TO FEEL A LITTLE BIT BETTER NOW THAN THEY DID AN HOUR AGO. >> THAT'S EXACTLY
RIGHT, CHUCK. AS YOU CAN TELL BY THE SUPPORTERS HERE, THEY FEEL GOOD ABOUT WHAT THEY ARE SEEING. THE LAST TIME I SPOKE WITH YOU, THE CROWD BEHIND -- THE PEOPLE ON THE RISER, THEY STARTED FILLING THAT IN. WE DON'T KNOW WHEN SENATOR SANDERS WILL COME OUT. NOT CLEAR. HIS TEAM IS NOT SAYING JUST YET. THE ROOM IS FILLING UP RIGHT NOW. PEOPLE ARE CHANTING. THEY HAD A CHANT "WE ARE UNSTOPPABLE, DONALD TRUMP HAS GOT TO GO." THE MOOD IS CELEBRATORY AS WE CONTINUE TO WAIT FOR THE
RESULTS TO COME IN. THE ONE THING I HAVE TO NOTE, CHUCK, IS HOW MUCH SENATOR SANDERS HAS INVESTED IN THIS STATE. HE IS THE NEIGHBORINGSENATOR AND HE WON IN 2016 HERE. HE HAS THIS HOME FIELD ADVANTAGE HERE IN NEW HAMPSHIRE, BUT HE ALSO HAS PUT IN A LOT INTO NEW HAMPSHIRE. HE SPENT MORE ON THE TELEVISION AIRWAYS, ABOUT $5.5 MILLION THAN ANY OTHER CANDIDATE WITH THE EXCEPTION OF TOM STEYER. HIS TEAM OF VOLUNTEERS HAVE BEEN KNOCKING ON DOORS. THEY KNOCKED ON ABOUT 700,000 DOORS. THEY SPENT
A LOT OF TIME HERE, PUT IN A LOT OF EFFORT. SENATOR SANDERS EARLIER TODAY IN AN INTERVIEW I HAD WITH HIM SAID IT'S A MEDIA SPECULATION WHEN WE SAY THERE IS A MUST-WIN STATE FOR A CANDIDATE. THIS IS A STATE WE HAVE BEEN WATCHING CLOSELY BECAUSE IF HE COULDN'T DO IT HERE WITH EVERYTHING THAT HE INVESTED, WITH ALL THE STOPS HE MADE, THE EVENTS HE HAD, IT WOULD HAVE BEEN A QUESTION, OPENED UP A QUESTION INTO THAT KEY ELECTABILITY ARGUMENT, THAT HE CAN BRING ENERGY AND EXCITEMENT.
RIGHT NOW THE PEOPLE HERE FEEL LIKE IT'S PROVING TO BE TRUE. CHUCK. >> SHAQ BREWSTER, THANKS VERY MUCH. ANDREA MITCHELL HAS JOINED THE TABLE. >> HEY, GOOD TO SEE YOU. >> I KNOW WHERE YOU WERE IN 1992. RIGHT HERE COVERING THE COMEBACK KID. WHAT WAS INTERESTING ABOUT THAT NIGHT IS HOW QUICKLY HE DECLARED VICTORY. I AM MILDLY SURPRISED WE HAVE NOT HEARD FROM AMY KLOBUCHAR YET. YOU ARE IN THIS POSITION, YOU THINK YOU HAVE HAD A GREAT NIGHT. YOU BETTER SAY YOU HAD A
GREAT NIGHT BEFORE PETE BUTTIGIEG AND BERNIE SANDERS SAY THAT, TOO. >> SHE COULD SAY I AM CLEARLY IN THE TOP THREE. MORE TO COME. >> YEAH. >> THEY MAY BE WAITING TO SEE HOW HIGH IT CAN GO. >> I CAN TELL YOU THIS. THE REASON WE HAVEN'T CALLED THE RACE IS A LOT OF THE VOTE THAT HASN'T BEEN COUNTED, WE WANT TO SEE SOME OF THE MORE REPUBLICAN PRECINCTS, THE TOWNSHIPS COMING IN, THE LATE VOTERS YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT THAT COULD, WHEN YOU SAW THE EXIT POLLS
AT 5:00, THIS COULD GET OLDER. AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE WAITING FOR. >> THERE IS A LOT OF PEOPLE, TOO. IT'S NOT JUST LIKE, OH, THIS INTERESTING AREA, THIS INTERESTING AREA. >> POPULATION. >> I MEAN, LITERALLY HALF THE POPULATION LIVES IN THE TWO COUNTIES IN SOUTHERN NEW HAMPSHIRE. THIS IS A LOT OF VOTERS WE ARE TALKING ABOUT. >> BY THE WAY, WE DO KNOW SOME DELEGATES HERE, AMY HAS WON AT LEAST THREE, BEING IN THIRD PLACE. BUTTIGIEG WON AT LEAST
SIX, BERNIE AT LEAST SEVEN. IT'S PROBABLY A 9-8-7. THAT'S A THREE-WAY DELEGATE TIE. >> I WAS TELLING ANNIE CUSTER, THE ONLY MEMBER OF CONGRESS IN THIS STATE, SHE CHOSE PETE BECAUSE SHE THOUGHT HE COULD GO THE DISTANCE AND HE WAS MOUNTING THE KIND OF CAMPAIGN THAT COULD BE A NATIONAL CAMPAIGN. SHE SAYS A LOT OF VOTE IN THE SOUTHERN TIER COULD BE FAVORABLE WITH HIM. SHE IS PLEASED WITH THE RESULTS FROM DARTMOUTH, WHICH IS ABSOLUTELY COLLEGE STUDENTS -- >> AND HANOVER,
I HAVE HEARD THESE RESULTS, TOO. I HAVE HEARD THIS FROM MULTIPLE CAMPAIGNS THAT THEY HAVE BEEN GETTING AND, JAMES, HANOVER IS A HUGE -- BERNIE WON IT BIG. THEY CLAIM -- I THINK THE BUTTIGIEG PEOPLE CLAIM THEY ARE GOING TO WIN HANOVER. >> THEY SPENT A LOT OF TIME THERE. >> THE BIGGER NUMBER IS THE TOWN NEXT TO IT, LEBANON. THAT'S WHERE THE HOSPITAL IS. THAT'S WHERE A LOT OF THE DARTMOUTH COMMUNITY IS. HANOVER IS A SMALLER TOWN. BUT, YEAH, ONE OF THE THREE -- HANOVER,
HOPKINSON AND HENIKER. >> YEAH. >> WE WERE TALKING ON IOWA CAUCUS NIGHT ABOUT PETE BUTTIGIEG AND HIS ABILITY TO KIND OF APPEAL TO A CROSS SECTION OF VOTERS IN A WAY THAT OTHER CANDIDATES SEEM TO BE STRUGGLING TO DO. BERNIE SANDERS HAS AN OBVIOUS APPEAL WITH YOUNG PEOPLE. JOE BIDEN WAS APPEALING TO OLDER VOTERS. PEOPLE WERE GRABBING A CHUNK OF THAT YOUNGER VOTE WHICH COULD BE INTERESTING. >> SOMETHING ELSE ABOUT GENDER. WHAT CONGRESSWOMAN CUSTER IS POINTING OUT IS
THAT THERE IS A PENT-UP DESIRE AMONG DEMOCRATIC WOMEN TO VOTE FOR A WOMAN. YOU HAVE HAD TWO WOMEN GOVERNORS HERE, AN ENTIRE WOMEN'S DELEGATION IN CONGRESS. THE ENTIRE DELEGATION WAS FEMALE AT ONE POINT. >> FOR ONE CYCLE, RIGHT? >> RIGHT. THEY SAY THAT DEBATE, AND WARREN WASN'T IT. WARREN, IN HER PARTISAN VIEW, BECAUSE SHE IS A BUTTIGIEG PERSON, SHE FELT WARREN WAS GIVING THE SAME STUMP SPEECH. >> THAT'S A GOOD POINT. IN THE MONTHS LEADING INTO THIS THERE
WERE A LOT OF WOMEN WHO WANTED TO VOTE FOR A WOMAN AND THEY WERE NOT IDEOLOGICALLY COMFORTABLE WITH ELIZABETH WARREN BUT SHE WAS THE ONLY OPTION FOR THEM, ONLY REAL DEAL WOMAN. NOW THAT KLOBUCHAR IS THERE, SHE -- >> DAVID, THE KLOBUCHAR CAMPAIGN, YOU HAVE TO BUILD THE AIRPLANE AS IT TAKES OFF, ONE OF MY FAVORITE CLICHES. >> BUILD THE AIRPLANE IN MIDAIR. >> FIRST OF ALL, ARE YOU SURPRISED -- I ASSUME IF YOU WERE ADVISING HER YOU WOULD BE LIKE HURRY UP AND DECLARE
YOUR VICTORY, AMY KLOBUCHAR, TONIGHT, WHATEVER YOU BELIEVE THAT LOOKS LIKE. >> YEAH, I WOULD BE OUT RIGHT NOW. AT THE END OF THE DAY, SHE STILL CAME IN THIRD. SO IF YOU WANT TO GET AS MUCH AS YOU CAN OUT OF THE THIRD. YOUR FUNDRAISING EMAILS, YOU KNOW, HEAD OUT TO A STATE SO YOU ARE SOMEWHERE ELSE IN THE CALENDAR TOMORROW MORNING. YEAH, IT'S A TACTICAL QUESTION. I AM SURPRISED THEY ARE NOT OUT THERE RIGHT NOW. I REALLY AM BY THAT. TO YOUR POINT ABOUT BUILDING THE PLANE,
THAT'S WHAT THEY HAVE TO DO. PETE IS IN A LITTLE BIT STRONGER POSITION FINANCIALLY. HE'S GOT TO DO IT, TOO. THERE IS LIKE A HUNDRED AIRPORTS BETWEEN NOW AND SUPER TUESDAY. SO, YOU KNOW, THERE IS NOT ENOUGH -- BUTTIGIEG AND AMY, I MEAN EVEN SANDERS, ARE GOING TO HAVE TO MAKE REALLY HARD DECISIONS ABOUT RESOURCES, CANDIDATE TIME, SURROGATE TIME, MONEY, STAFF. YOU CAN'T COVER THE WHOLE PLAYING FIELD. AND SO THE AMY KLOBUCHAR CAMPAIGN THEY NEED TO MODEL OUT HOW MUCH MONEY CAN
WE RAISE OVER THE NEXT SEVEN DAYS? HOW ARE WE GOING TO SPEND THAT? THEY HAVE HAD A BUNCH OF STAFF IN NEW HAMPSHIRE. WHERE ARE THEY SENDING THEM? AGAIN I THINK THERE WILL BE SOME CANDIDATES WHO SAY, YOU KNOW WHAT? I'M PLANTING MY FLAG IN THREE OR FOUR STATES ON SUPER TUESDAY. THEY ARE NOT GOING TO BE A NOMINEE IN MY VIEW BECAUSE THEY WILL WON'T DO WELL ENOUGH ELSEWHERE. THAT WILL BE INTERESTING BECAUSE THAT COULD AFFECT THE PEOPLE AT THE TOP OF THE TICKET IF THEY'VE GOT A COUPLE
OF CANDIDATES BURROWING IN A STATE AND KEEPS THE DELEGATION HAUL DOWN. >> IF YOU ARE THE PETE BUTTIGIEG CAMPAIGN, YOU'VE GOT TO, ON ONE HAND, YOU LOOK AT THIS AND THINK, OH MY GOD, IF THERE WASN'T A PILE ON ON ME OVER THE LAST THREE DAYS, AT THE DEBATE, THE DIGITAL ATTACK FROM BIDEN, I MIGHT HAVE WON THIS THING. AT THE SAME TIME YOU ARE STILL STANDING. AMY KLOBUCHAR HASN'T TAKEN THE PROVERBIAL CAMPAIGN PUNCH. BUTTIGIEG TOOK HIS FIRST PUNCH. WHAT DO YOU MAKE OF IT?
>> WELL, I DON'T KNOW. BUTTIGIEG DIDN'T DO THAT BAD. IF YOU LOOK AT THE QUINNIPIAC POLLS THAT CAME OUT BEFORE THIS ELECTION, PETE BUTTIGIEG WAS IN SINGLE DIGITS WITH A NUMBER OF THE DEMOGRAPHICS INVOLVED. HE WAS NOWHERE NEAR THE TOP AT LEAST WHAT THE POLL WOULD HAVE PROJECTED THAT HE WOULD HAVE DONE. HE MAYBE KIND OF PEELED OFF A LITTLE BIT FROM A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT DEMOGRAPHICS ACROSS THE BOARD. THE OTHER THING IS THE SOLIDLY APPEALING TO ONE GROUP, BUT MAYBE A LITTLE
BIT OF A VARIETY. I HAVE BEEN HEARING AN ARRAY OF REASON WHY PEOPLE LIKE PETE BUTTIGIEG, WHETHER IT'S HIS POLICIES OR BEING MORE MODERATE AND BEING ABLE TO PEEL OFF FORMER OBAMA VOTERS WHO WENT TO DONALD TRUMP. I THINK THIS IS PROBABLY NOT ONLY A GOOD NIGHT FOR PETE BUTTIGIEG, BUT ALSO FOR AMY KLOBUCHAR. I THINK THE LAST DEBATE AND DEBATE BEFORE THAT, AT LEAST MY REACTION TO HER PERFORMANCE, SHE ELICITED A LOT OF PESOS FOR HERSELF. LIKE SHE -- I THINK SHE -- I SAID THIS ABRAHAM
LINCOLN QUOTE A MILLION TIMES, WITH PUBLIC SENTIMENT NOTHING CAN FAIL, WITHOUT IT NOTHING CAN SUCCEED. AND I THINK THAT AMY KLOBUCHAR HAS SUCCEEDED MAYBE IN A WAY THAT ELIZABETH WARREN HASN'T. I DON'T KNOW. I THINK SHE SUCCEEDED IN SOME WAYS AND JUST MAKING PEOPLE FEEL HER, MAKING PEOPLE EMPATHIZE WITH HER, CONNECT WITH HER. THERE IS AN EARNESTNESS ABOUT HER, EAGERNESS ABOUT HER THAT SEEMS TO HAVE WON SOME PEOPLE OVER IN ADDITION TO HER POLICIES. SOMEONE WROTE IN TO ME ON
FACEBOOK MENTIONED, YOU KNOW, HER HEART ABOUT THE WAY THAT SHE CONNECTS WITH THEM. THAT MAY HAVE AUGERED WELL FOR HER TONIGHT. >> SHE ALSO SIMPLY DEFENDED WASHINGTON. RIGHT? >> IN A WAY. >> THE HARD WORK. SAYING IT'S EASY TO RUN AGAINST WASHINGTON. >> YES. SHE DID, YEAH. AND SHE WAS WILLING TO KIND OF MAKE THOSE JABS IN WAY THAT I THINK VOTERS CLEARLY FOUND APPEALING AS OPPOSED TO OFF PUTTING. AND THAT'S, FRANKLY, A DIFFICULT LINE TO WALK. THE OTHER
THING I WILL SAY ABOUT KLOBUCHAR IS SHE HAS BEEN A VERY CAREFUL WITH HER RESOURCES. SHE HAD TO BE. SHE HAD THE MOST MONEY OR BIGGEST ORGANIZATION. KAMALA HARRIS, CORY BOOKER, BETO O'ROURKE ARE NOT IN THIS RACE. IT PAID OFF. >> YOU DO WHAT YOU'VE GOT TO DO TO STICK AROUND AND YOU WAIT FOR THE MOMENTS. WE ARE MOMENTS AWAY FROM HEARING FROM JOE BIDEN. A SET OF REMARKS THAT A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE INTERESTED IN. LET'S CHECK IN WITH MIKE WHO IS IN SOUTH CAROLINA. MIKE, IT'S A
GOOD CROWD THAT THEY GOT THERE. SO I GOT TO THINK THAT IT MIGHT GIVE THE VICE PRESIDENT A LITTLE BIT OF ENERGY TONIGHT? >> Reporter: YEAH, ABSOLUTELY. WE HAVE BEEN COVERING JOE BIDEN ALL THESE YEARS. I NOTICED PROBABLY NO OTHER POLITICIAN FEEDS OFF THE ENERGY OF THE CROWD SO MUCH. IN IOWA HE WASN'T DRAWING VERY GOOD AND ENTHUSIASTIC CROWDS. WE WILL HEAR FROM CONGRESSMAN -- RECENTLY THE CHAIRMAN OF THE CONGRESSIONAL BLACK CAUCUS. HE IS BIDEN'S NATIONAL CO-CHAIRMAN. THEN DR.
BIDEN AND THE FORMER VICE PRESIDENT. HE JUST ALSO ADDRESSED THE REPORTERS AT HIS NAUSEA VICTORY NIGHT CELEBRATION WHERE WE THOUGHT WE WOULD BE TONIGHT. GIVEN WHAT WE HEARD FROM HIM IN THE READ-OUT OF HIS REMARKS THERE, IT SOUNDS LIKE THEY ARE GOING TO BE COMPLETELY BACKING OFF AS WE WERE TALKING ABOUT, CHUCK, EARLIER, THAT ATTACK STRATEGY THAT HE TESTED AND THEN QUICKLY PIVOTED WAY FROM EARLIER. HE WAS TALKING A LOT ABOUT HIS INTERACTIONS WITH VOTERS, TRYING TO PLAY THE EMPATHY CARD,
TRYING TO BRING BACK THE UNCLE JOE CARICATURE WE HAVE SEEN OVER THE YEARS. ONE QUICK THING. I MAY BE PHYSICALLY IN SOUTH CAROLINA, BUT PART OF MY BRAIN IS STILL IN NEW HAMPSHIRE. I JUST WANTED TO MENTION I TALKED TO THE SECRETARY OF STATE. HE SAID THAT HE EXPECTS THE TURNOUT IN NEW HAMPSHIRE TO BE WHAT HE WAS EXPECTING WHICH WAS ABOUT 450,000. PART THAT HAVE IS BECAUSE OF WHAT HE EXPECTS TO BE A RECORD TURNOUT IN THE REPUBLICAN PRIMARY. RECORD TURNOUT FOR A PRESIDENTIAL RE-ELECTION
YEAR IN A NON-COMPETITIVE RACE. SO JUST A LITTLE BIT THAT I THOUGHT YOU'D WANT TO HEAR. >> VERY INTERESTING, MIKE. WHILE YOU WERE SPEAKING WE HAVE LOST TEMPORARILY CHUCK TODD. HE WILL BE BACK WITH US MOMENTARILY. CAN I ASK YOU, MIKE, I MEAN, WHAT'S GOING ON BEHIND YOU IN THAT ROOM IN SOUTH CAROLINA? IT'S SO DIFFERENT FROM WHAT WE'VE BEEN SEEING BEHIND MARIANA, OUR EMBEDDED COLLEAGUE WHO IS STILL HERE IN NEW HAMPSHIRE. CAN YOU KIND OF DESCRIBE THE SCENE THAT YOU
HAVE GOT GOING THERE AND HOW IT'S DIFFERENT OR THE SAME FROM WHAT WE SAW IN NEW HAMPSHIRE THIS PAST WEEK? >> Reporter: YEAH, I WOULD SAY IT'S CERTAINLY A MORE LIVELY CROWD THAN OVER THE COURSE OF THE LAST WEEK. ONE OF THE FIRST PEOPLE I SAW WHEN I WALKED IN HERE, A LONG TIME BIDEN SUPPORTER SAID I FORGOT TO WEAR MY FIREWALL SHIRT. IF THERE IS ANY BEDWETTING, A TERM WE DESCRIBE FOR DEMOCRATS WORRYING ABOUT THEIR POLITICAL FORTUNE, THERE IS NONE OF THAT HERE. A MUCH MORE
DIVERSE CROWD THAN WHAT WE HAVE SEEN IN IOWA, NEW HAMPSHIRE, AND JUST NOW THE PROGRAM BEGINNING. WE ARE GETTING THE FIRST INTRODUCES. >> MIKE, THANK YOU SO MUCH. I KNOW WE ARE WATCHING TO SEE WHO IS GOING TO START OFF THE PROGRAM. I SEE DR. JILL BIDEN THERE THROUGH THAT CROWD. DO WE HAVE THIS, GUYS? CAN WE TAKE HER OR? WE WILL LISTEN IN TO DR. JILL BIDEN FOR A MINUTE. >> AN INCREDIBLE WELCOME HERE. FRIENDS AND MENTORS IN YOUR CITIES AND IN YOUR TOWNS. WE FOUND RESPITE ON
YOUR SHORES. AND WHEN WE LOST OUR SON BO, WE CAME TO SOUTH CAROLINA TO THE LOW COUNTRY TO FIND A SENSE OF PEACE. AFTER MONTHS OF HEARTACHE, WATCHING OUR SON SLIP AWAY, AFTER THE DEVASTATION OF LOSING HIM, SOUTH CAROLINA WAS THE PLACE WE WERE FIRST ABLE TO TAKE A BREATH AGAIN. AND THIS STATE OPENED ITS ARMS AND EMBRACED OUR FAMILY. YOU HELPED US HEAL. >> DR. JILL BIDEN IS SPEAKING AHEAD OF JOE BIDEN. A ROUGH NIGHT IN NEW HAMPSHIRE. THEY HAVE GONE TO SOUTH CAROLINA. CHUCK TODD
BACK NOW. >> I HAVE TO SAY I STILL CANNOT ERASE THAT IMAGE FROM MY HEAD LAST MONDAY NIGHT WHEN THEY CAME OUT AS A COUPLE, THE BIDENS, AND THE LOOK ON JOE BIDEN'S FACE. EVEN THOUGH WE DIDN'T HAVE RESULTS, WE HAD AN ENTRANCE POLL AND WE KNOW THEY ALL HAD THEIR BOILER ROOM. THEY KNEW WHAT WAS COMING. SHE LOOKED AS IF SHE HAD SEEN A GHOST. >> YOU CAN READ A LOT INTO THE BODY LANGUAGE THERE. FRANKLY, YOU HAVE SEEN IT ON THE TRAIL BETWEEN THE TWO OF THEM. SHE HAS BEEN ONE
OF, I THINK, HIS MOST EFFECTIVE, YOU KNOW, ADVOCATES, SURROGATES, BEING THE CAMPAIGN -- >> YEAH. >> SHE DID. >> WORRIED ABOUT IT. HE LOOKED AWFUL THIS MORNING WHEN I SAW HIM HERE. YOU KNOW, I RAN INTO HIM. >> COMPETITIVE GUY. HE IS A COMPETITIVE GUY. >> OF COURSE HE IS. THIS IS TOUGH. >> MARK MURRAY, IT'S NOT LOST ON ME THAT WARREN AND BIDEN TOGETHER WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO GET THIRD PLACE. >> YEAH, WHEN YOU LOOK DOWN AT THE EXIT POLLS,
THIS IS STILL BARACK OBAMA'S PARTY. THAT'S GOING TO BE CHALLENGING FOR BERNIE SANDERS. I THINK DO THINK FOR ALL THE CONVERSATIONS THAT THERE IS A PATH FOR BERNIE SANDERS TO GET THE NOMINATION JUST LIKE DONALD TRUMP DIDN'T WIN BY PARALITIES, KEEP ON HAVING YOUR PERCENTAGE BUMP UP, BREAK OPPOSITION UNTIL IT'S REDUCED TO ONE PERSON. BUT AGAIN WHEN I LOOK AT THE EXIT POLLS AND HOW TRUMP WAS ABLE TO DO THAT IN 2016, WHEN YOU LOOK BACK AT NEW HAMPSHIRE, HE HAD CROSSOVER
APPEAL. HE WAS WINNING AMONG MODERATE REPUBLICANS, OLD, YOUNG. WHEN YOU LOOK AT BERNIE SANDERS RIGHT NOW, YOU KNOW, YOU END UP SEEING SOMEONE WHO IS REALLY PROPPED UP BY VERY YOUNG AND VERY LIBERAL VOTERS, AND HE HAS A BROADNESS IN HIS COALITION. >> AMY KLOBUCHAR DOING SO WELL TONIGHT, AND SHOWING THAT SHE COULD BE A VIABLE ALTERNATIVE. BUT THEN SOMEONE FROM ANOTHER CAMPAIGN SAID TO ME, WHAT DOES SHE DO IN SOUTH CAROLINA? HOW DOES SHE BROADEN HER APPEAL? >> THE SAME ISSUE
PETE BUTTIGIEG HAD. NO HISTORY WITH MINORITY VOTES HERSELF. >> THAT'S RIGHT. >> AS A PROSECUTOR, I REMEMBER WHEN KAMALA HARRIS WAS GETTING TAKEN TO THE WOODSHED OVER HER RECORD AS A PROSECUTOR. YOU STARTED TO SEE AMY KLOBUCHAR ANSWER SOME QUESTIONS WHEN SHE WAS A PROSECUTOR AND THINGS THAT WERE GOOD POLITICS 15 YEARS AGO WHEN SHE ENTERED STATE POLITICS, NOT SO GOOD POLITICS PERHAPS IN THE PRIMARY. >> OR 20 YEARS AGO WHEN JOE BIDEN WAS -- >> RIGHT. WE WILL
SNEAK IN A BREAK HERE. YOU ARE WATCHING THE NEW HAMPSHIRE PRESIDENTIAL PRIMARY ONLY ON "1917." DON'T GO FAR. DON'T GO FAR. N" DON'T GO FAR. B" DON'T GO FAR. C" DON'T GO FAR. " DON'T GO FAR. N" DON'T GO FAR. EW" DON'T GO FAR. S" DON'T GO FAR. " DON'T GO FAR. N" DON'T GO FAR. O" DON'T GO FAR. W" DON'T GO FAR. >>> WE ARE CUTTING IN EARLY HERE AS JOE BIDEN IS SPEAKING TO
SUPPORTERS RIGHT NOW. >> A LONG TIME. WHEN I DIE I WANT TO BE REBORN AS CHARLESTON, ACTUALLY. >> I LIKE THE LOW COUNTRY, YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? LOOK, I HOPE -- THANK YOU. PLEASE SIT DOWN. THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU. I AM -- I'M JOE BIDEN'S HUSBAND, AND I WORK FOR CEDRIC -- >> AND DAVID MACK IS TAKING ME TO SCHOOL. WELL, LOOK, I KNOW SOME OF THE OTHER SENATORS CAME OVER. THEY CAME UP TO SEE ME THERE. THEY ARE IN SESSION RIGHT NOW. I THANK THEM FOR MAKING THE
EFFORT. THERE ARE SO MANY PEOPLE HERE FOR ME TO SAY THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU TO. I JUST SPOKE TO OUR FOLKS UP IN NEW HAMPSHIRE, AND THEY DID A GOOD JOB. I WANT TO TELL YOU, THE PEOPLE OF NEVADA ARE WATCHING, AND I WANT TO MAKE IT CLEAR WE PRAISE THEIR DIVERSITY AS A STATE AND I'M GOING TO BE OUT THERE SEEING THEM VERY SOON. TONIGHT, THOUGH, WE JUST HEARD FROM THE FIRST TWO OF 50 STATES. TWO OF THEM. NOT ALL OF THE NATION. NOT HALF THE NATION. NOT A QUARTER OF THE NAYS. NOT
10%. TWO. TWO. WHERE I COME FROM, THAT'S THE OPENING BELL. NOT THE CLOSING BELL. AND THE FIGHT AND DONALD TRUMP'S PRESIDENCY IS JUST BEGINNING. THANK YOU. IT IS IMPORTANT THAT IOWA AND NEVADA HAVE SPOKEN. LOOK, WE NEED TO HEAR FROM NEVADA AND SOUTH CAROLINA AND SUPER TUESDAY STATES AND BEYOND. WE ARE MOVING INTO AN ESPECIALLY IMPORTANT PHASE. UP TO NOW WE HAVEN'T HEARD FROM THE MOST COMMITTED CONSTITUENCY IN THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY, THE AFRICAN AMERICAN COMMUNITY. AND THE FASTEST
GROWING SEGMENT OF SOCIETY, THE LATINO COMMUNITY. I WANT Y'ALL TO THINK OF A NUMBER. 99.9%. THAT'S THE PERCENTAGE OF AFRICAN AMERICAN VOTERS WHO HAVE NOT YET HAD A CHANCE TO VOTE IN AMERICA. ONE MORE NUMBER 99.8. THAT'S THE PERCENT OF LATINOS WHO HAVEN'T HAD A CHANCE TO VOTE. SO WHEN YOU HEAR ALL THESE PUNDITS AND EXPERTS, CABLE TV TALKERS TALK ABOUT THE RACE, TELL THEM IT AIN'T OVER, MAN, WE'RE JUST GETTING STARTED. OUR VOTES COUNT, TOO. WE ARE NOT GOING TO LET
ANYONE TAKE THIS ELECTION AWAY FROM US. YOU CAN'T BEAT A DEMOCRATIC NOMINEE, YOU CAN'T WIN A GENERAL ELECTION OF DEMOCRATS UNLESS YOU HAVE OVERWHELMING SUPPORT FROM BLACK AND BROWN VOTERS. IT'S A NATURAL FACT. IT'S TRUE. IT'S ABSOLUTELY TRUE. AND, FOLKS, YOU KNOW, ALL THOSE DEMOCRATS WHO WON AGAINST INCUMBENTS FROM JIMMY CARTER TO A GUY NAMED CLINTON, A GUY NAMED OBAMA, MY GOOD FRIEND, GUESS WHAT? THEY HAD OVERWHELMING AFRICAN AMERICAN SUPPORT. WITHOUT IT,
NOBODY'S EVER WON. NO, REALLY. AND Y'ALL VOTE -- LOOK, MORE IMPORTANT, YOU CANNOT WIN THE DEMOCRATIC NOMINATION OF PRESIDENT WITHOUT BLACK AND BROWN VOTERS. TOO OFTEN YOUR LOYALTY, YOUR SUPPORT, YOUR COMMITMENT TO THIS PARTY HAVE BEEN TAKEN FOR GRANTED. I HAVE NEVER ONCE IN MY CAREER SINCE I GOT INVOLVED AS A KID TAKEN IT FOR GRANTED AND I GIVE YOU MY WORD AS A BIDEN I NEVER, EVER, EVER WILL. IF YOU WANT TO KNOW WHAT ANY OF THE OTHER CANDIDATES ARE GOING TO DO IN THE FUTURE,
THE TENDENCY IS TO LOCK AT THE PAST. I LEFT A LAW FIRM WITH WHEN I WAS A KID AND A FANCY LAW FIRM TO BECOME A PUBLIC DEFENDER TO FIGHT FOR THE COMMUNITY OF THE PEOPLE I USED TO WORK IN ON THE EAST SIDE BECAUSE THEY COULDN'T AFFORD A LAWYER. IN THE U.S. SENATE I PASSED THE EXTENSION OF VOTING RIGHTS ACT FOR TWO DECADES. BY THE WAY, I HAD THE BACK OF A GREAT PRESIDENT BARACK OBAMA FOR EIGHT YEARS. BY THE WAY, WE INCREASED ACCESS TO CAPITAL FOR AFRICAN AMERICAN ENTREPRENEURS.
LET'S GET SOMETHING STRAIGHT. GIVEN A CHANCE, THEY DO JUST AS WELL AS ANYBODY ELSE, AND QUITE FRANKLY, BETTER, AND THEY BUILD NEIGHBORHOODS, THEY BUILD ALL COMMUNITIES. REDUCE THE FEDERAL POPULATION, AND I GOT $70 BILLION COMING TO HBCUs. NOT A JOKE. LOOK, WE SAVED THE AUTOMOBILE INDUSTRY, PASSED OBAMACARE, STOPPED INSURANCE COMPANIES OF DISCRIMINATING AGAINST PEOPLE WITH PRE-EXISTING CONDITIONS. ON TOP OF THAT, WE BUILT AN ECONOMY THAT TRUMP IS BRAGGING ABOUT. THIS GUY
SQUANDERED HIS FATHER'S FORTUNE. NOW HE IS SQUANDERING THE ECONOMY WE GAVE HIM. Y'ALL THINK I'M KIDDING. I'M NOT. SO, MR. PRESIDENT, INSTEAD OF TALKING ABOUT IMPEACHING BARACK OBAMA, YOU SHOULD BE, THANK YOU, PRESIDENT OBAMA. THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU. BUT, FOLKS, WE HAVE SO MUCH MORE TO DO. I PROMISE YOU, AS YOUR PRESIDENT, YOU WILL BE PARTNERS IN SHAPING THE POLICIES TO MAKE SURE EVERY SINGLE AMERICAN HAS AN OPPORTUNITY. THE THING THAT I HAVE NEVER LIKED WHEN I
WAS CHAIRMAN OF THE JUDICIARY COMMITTEE FOR YEARS, I DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU NEED BEST. I LISTEN. YOU ALL, THE LEADERS OF THE BLACK COMMUNITY, KNOW WHAT YOU NEED BEST. WE DON'T LISTEN ENOUGH. WE TAKE FOR GRANTED. YOU KNOW WHAT YOU NEED. YOU KNOW WHAT YOUR FAMILIES NEED. AND I HAVE NEVER NOT LISTENED TO YOU. FIRST WE NEED TO BUILD ON OBAMACARE. TRUMP WANTS TO GET RID OF IT. EVEN SOME OF THE FOLKS IN MY OWN OUTFIT -- >> IT'S JOE BIDEN STARTING -- ENDING HIS NEW HAMPSHIRE
CAMPAIGN, BUT BEGINNING, CLEARLY, HIS CAMPAIGN FOR SOUTH CAROLINA AND FOR NON-WHITE VOTERS, KASIE HUNT. YOU HEARD IT THERE. HE WAS TALKING ABOUT THE DIVERSITY OF NEVADA, TALKING ABOUT THE DIVERSITY OF SOUTH CAROLINA, BUT THERE WAS ANOTHER ASPECT TO JOE BIDEN SORT OF POLITICAL RESUME THAT MADE HIM AN APPEALING CANDIDATE FOR A LOT OF PEOPLE IN THE MIDDLE CLASS JOE. THE GUY FROM SCRANTON. YOU KNOW WHAT IS LIKE SCRANTON? MANCHESTER. DUBUQUE ISLAND. I GET THAT HE -- FOR SOME REASON -- AND
HE IS LOSING THOSE VOTERS TO BERNIE SANDERS. >> HE IS LOSING THEM BERNIE SANDERS. THIS IS REALLY THE CHALLENGE AT LARGE FOR THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT THE GENERAL ELECTION AND THIS PRIMARY IS ALL ABOUT ELECTABILITY, WHO CAN BEAT DONALD TRUMP, YOU ARE LOOKING AT VOTERS IN THE MIDWEST STATES, PENNSYLVANIA, WISCONSIN, MICHIGAN. THAT'S A COMBINATION OF TWO THINGS. IT'S WHITE WORKING CLASS VOTERS THAT FLED THE PARTY TO DONALD TRUMP AND ALSO
AFRICAN AMERICAN TURNOUT. SO FAR, BIDEN'S ARGUMENT IS THAT HE CAN POTENTIALLY HAVE ONE PIECE OF THAT. WE DON'T KNOW YET BECAUSE HE HASN'T HAD A CHANCE TO DO IT IN SOUTH CAROLINA. BUT I THINK IT'S PRETTY CLEAR THAT, YOU KNOW, THAT SEGMENT, WHAT'S LEFT OF THE WHITE WORKING CLOSE IN THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY DOESN'T SEEM TO BE WITH JOE BIDEN. >> YEAH. AND THAT'S THE SURPRISING CONCESSION HE IS MAKING. I HAD SOMEBODY SAY THAT THE -- IT ACTUALLY THE WEIRD THING
ABOUT THE HUNTER BIDEN ATTACKS, WHILE IT DIDN'T STICK TO JOE PERSONALLY, IT DEFINED HIM. BECAUSE IF HUNTER BIDEN IS WEALTHY, THE DAD MUST BE WEALTHY, TOO. HE WAS NEVER THAT GUY. THIS IS ONE OF THE FEW GUYS THAT DIDN'T FIGURE OUT HOW TO BE A MILLIONAIRE WHILE SERVING AS A UNITED STATES SENATOR. >> I HAVE KNOWN HIM SO LONG. I WAS COVERING PENNSYLVANIA POLITICS. HE WAS WORKING CLASS JOE. AND SCRANTON WAS REALLY THE FAMILY HOME. AND THAT IS WHAT HAS CREATED HIS WHOLE BEING,
HIS WHOLE SENSIBILITY. >> THAT'S WHY OBAMA PICKED HIM. NOT JUST THE EXPERIENCE, IT WAS WORKING CLASS JOE. >> CERTAINLY NOT COMPATIBILITY AT FIRST. >> SURE. THAT WAS MY QUESTION GOING INTO, AS I HAVE BEEN COVERING IMPEACHMENT IN WASHINGTON FOR ALL OF THESE WEEKS, IT WAS CLEAR TO ME AND HAS BEEN CLEAR TO ALL OF US THAT DONALD TRUMP'S CAMPAIGN WAS RUNNING THE SAME TYPE OF CAMPAIGN AGAINST DONALD TRUMP -- OR AGAINST JOE BIDEN AS HE DID AGAINST HILLARY. I
WASN'T SURE IT WOULD STICK BECAUSE OF HIS PAST. SEEMS LIKE MAYBE IT HAS. >> AMY KLOBUCHAR IS ABOUT TO COME OUT. THIS IS A BIG MOMENT FOR HER. THE BIG MOMENT FOR HER. THE DEBATE, BY THE WAY, LIKABLE ENOUGH IN L.A.? IT WAS A BIG DEAL COMBINED WITH THE HUMANITY THAT HILLARY CLINTON SHOWED TOWARDS THE END OF THAT NEW HAMPSHIRE CAMPAIGN, REALLY SORT OF REDEFINED WHO SHE WAS FOR THE VOTERS HERE. AMY KLOBUCHAR USED THE DEBATE, SAME MOMENT. WE DEFINED WHAT PEOPLE THOUGHT OF HER HERE.
SHE IS ABOUT TO HAVE AN INTERESTING -- CURIOUS TO SEE HOW SHE DECLARES HER VERSION OF A VICTORY. >> YEAH. AND ALSO THE CLOSING SHE GAVE IN THAT SPEECH WHERE IT WAS LIKE THERE WASN'T A VIRAL MOMENT, BUT THAT CLOSE THAT REALLY CAPTIVATED PEOPLE. >> IT DID. AND I THINK THE QUESTION IS NOW, SHE IS GOING TO START DEALING WITH SOME INCOMING, RIGHT? AND, YOU KNOW, NOW THAT THE NEXT STEP IS GOING TO BE, LIKE ANY CANDIDACY, OKAY, YOU ARE GOING TO GET SOME FRONTRUNNER TREATMENT.
HOW ARE YOU GOING TO HOLD UP. >> I THINK THERE IS A REAL QUESTION THERE PARTLY BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, WE WERE TALKING ABOUT THIS EARLIER, HER RECORD OP SOME ISSUES WITH THE AFRICAN AMERICAN COMMUNITY, HOW SHE, YOU KNOW, AT A TIME IN THE '90s IT WAS POLITICALLY POPULAR TO BE TOUGH ON CRIME AND THAT HAS SINCE EVOLVED INTO IS A A SET OF POLICIES THAT A LOT OF PEOPLE IN THE DEMOCRATIC VASE ARE REJECTING. I THINK THE NEVADA STRATEGY IS AN INTERESTING ONE FOR HERE. WE DON'T EXACTLY
KNOW HOW THAT'S GOING TO PLAY OUT. FRANKLY, THE BIDEN LOSS HERE RAISES MORE QUESTIONS ABOUT WHAT A HARRY REID -- >> THANK YOU FOR BRINGING UP HIS NAME. WHAT WOULD HARRY REID DO? >> HE HAS MET WITH EVERY PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE. YOU CANNOT ENTER THE STATE OF NEVADA IF YOU ARE A DEMOCRATIC PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE WITHOUT YOUR FIRST MEETING BEING WITH FORMER SENATOR REID. >> OF COURSE, THERE IS A UNION PROBLEM ABOUT MEDICARE FOR ALL. SO SANDERS HAS SOME WEAKNESS THERE.
SO HOW IS SHE TRYING TO -- OR WILL SHE TRY TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THAT. RIGHT. BUT THE UNION PROBLEM THE CITY IS DOMINATED BY -- YOU KNOW, A HEAVILY LATINO HOSPITALITY SERVICES UNION. WE TALK ABOUT HARRY REID REALLY KIND OF IN CHARGE OF POLITICS OUT THERE. IF HE SENDS A SIGNAL TO THE UNIONS HE WANTS TO GO ONE WAY, IT COULD MAKE A DIFFERENCE. >> HARRY REID, HE FRUSTRATED SOME PEOPLE FROM THE OUTSIDE. HE KEPT THAT CONFERENCE TOGETHER. HE GOT BERNIE -- HE KEPT BERNIE SANDERS FROM
STRAYING TOO FAR. HE KNEW HOW TO BALANCE THIS. HE PUT A FINGER ON THE SCALE FOR BARACK OBAMA WITHOUT OFFENDING HILLARY CLINTON. HE IS GOOD AT THIS. I WILL BE CURIOUS TO SEE IF HE SENDS SUBTLE SIGNALS WHEN IT COMES TO PETE BUTTIGIEG AND AMY KLOBUCHAR AND BERNIE SANDERS AS THEY DIVE INTO NEVADA. >> THE FIRST MACHINE STATE POLITICS CONTEST. WE HAVE GONE FROM IOWA, NEW HAMPSHIRE, THE HARRY REID MACHINE, THE DEMOCRATIC MACHINE, THE CULINARY UNION BIG POWERFUL VOTERS. NEVADA IS ONE
GIGANTIC COUNTY, CLARK COUNTY, ONE BIG CITY, LAS VEGAS AND RENO AND THAT'S ABOUT IT. WITH THE MACHINE POWER IN CLARK COUNTY, YOU COULD DO REALLY, REALLY WELL. THE QUESTION IS DOES THAT MACHINE END UP SUPPORTING -- >> AND SO FAR THE SANDERS PEOPLE HAVE NOT BEEN UNHAPPY ABOUT KLOBUCHAR'S -- >> THAT'S RIGHT. >> AND PREVENTED PETE FROM BEING A CLEAR WINNER. >> DAVID, EARLIER ON MY SHOW ON MSNBC AT 5:00 P.M., A GUEST ADMITTED SHE IS A LITTLE SKEPTICAL OF
BELIEVING IN THE CAUCUS PROCESS GOING FORWARD IN NEVADA AND WHILE SHE WOULDN'T SNUB NEVADA, SHE WOULD ADVISE CANDIDATES TO GO TO NEVADA, PARTICIPATE IN THE DEBATE, WOO THE VOTERS BUT NOT PLANT YOUR FLAG. WHAT DO YOU MAKE OF THAT? >> I DON'T SEE ANY OF THEM PLANTING THEIR FLAG THERE. IF YOU ARE WARREN OR BIDEN YOU WOULD LIKE TO BREAK INTO THE TOP THREE. IF YOU ARE PETER AMY, YOU WANT TO SHOW THAT YOU HAVE SOME ABILITY TO APPEAL TO THE MORE DIVERSE PARTS OF THE
ELECTORATE. SINCE WE HAVE HAD THESE FOUR, BACK IN 2008 YOU REMEMBER NEVADA WAS INTERESTING BECAUSE HILLARY WON THE RAW VOTE. WE WON THE DELEGATES. BUT, YOU KNOW, IT IS -- IT'S NOT THE MOMENTUM PROVIDER THAT SOUTH CAROLINA IS. SO THAT'S AN IMPORTANT QUESTION FOR THESE CANDIDATES OVER THE NEXT 18 DAYS. MONEY, TIME, HOW DO YOU APPORTION BETWEEN SOUTH CAROLINA AND NEVADA AND THE OTHER STATES. >> I GOT TO CUT YOU OFF. HERE COMES AMY KLOBUCHAR. >> THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THANK
YOU. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, NEW HAMPSHIRE. THANK YOU, NEW HAMPSHIRE. WE LOVE YOU, NEW HAMPSHIRE! HELLO, AMERICA. I AM AMY KLOBUCHAR AND I WILL BEAT DONALD TRUMP. MY HEART IS FULL TONIGHT. MY HEART IS FULL TONIGHT. WHILE THERE ARE STILL BALLOTS LEFT TO COUNT, WE HAVE BEATEN THE ODDS EVERY STEP OF THE WAY. WE HAVE DONE IT ON THE MERITS. WE HAVE DONE IT WITH IDEAS AND WE HAVE DONE IT WITH HARD WORK. BECAUSE WE ARE RESILIENT AND STRONG AS THE PEOPLE OF THIS GREAT NATION. THANK YOU
TO OUR INCREDIBLE STAFF AND OUR UNSTOPPABLE VOLUNTEERS, MY WONDERFUL HUSBAND JOHN, OUR DAUGHTER ABIGAIL. AND THE PEOPLE OF NEW HAMPSHIRE, BECAUSE OF YOU, WE ARE TAKING THIS CAMPAIGN TO NEVADA. WE ARE GOING TO SOUTH CAROLINA. AND WE ARE TAKING THIS MESSAGE OF UNITY TO THE COUNTRY. WE KNOW IN OUR HEARTS THAT IN A DEMOCRACY IT IS NOT ABOUT THE LOUDEST VOICE OR THE BIGGEST BANK ACCOUNT. IT IS ABOUT THE BEST IDEA AND ABOUT THE PERSON WHO CAN TURN THOSE IDEAS INTO ACTION. WE KNOW THAT WE
CANNOT WIN BIG BY TRYING TO OUT-DIVIDE THE DIVIDER IN CHIEF. WE KNOW THAT WE WIN BY BRINGING PEOPLE WITH US INSTEAD OF SHUTTING THEM OUT. DONALD TRUMP'S WORST NIGHTMARE IS THAT THE PEOPLE IN THE MIDDLE, THE PEOPLE WHO HAVE HAD ENOUGH OF THE NAME-CALLING AND THE MUD-SLINGING HAVE SOMEONE TO VOTE FOR IN NOVEMBER. I CANNOT WAIT TO BRING OUR GREEN BUS AROUND THE COUNTRY. I CANNOT WAIT TO WIN THE NOMINATION. I CANNOT WAIT TO BUILD A MOVEMENT AND WIN WITH A MOVEMENT OF FIRED UP
DEMOCRATS, OF INDEPENDENTS AND MODERATE REPUBLICANS. THAT SEE THIS ELECTION AS WE DO. WE SEE IT AS AN ECONOMIC CHECK ON THIS PRESIDENT. WE SEE IT AS A PATRIOTISM CHECK AND WE SEE IT AS A DECENCY CHECK. BECAUSE IN THE END, WE KNOW THAT WHAT UNITES US IS SO MUCH BIGGER THAN WHAT DIVIDES US, AND WE KNOW, WE KNOW THAT WE BELIEVE SO MANY OF US BELIEVE THAT THE HEART OF AMERICA IS BIGGER THAN THE HEART OF THIS GUY IN THE WHITE HOUSE. TONIGHT IS ABOUT GRIT, AND MY STORY, LIKE SO MANY OF
YOURS, IS ONE OF RESILIENCE. I ANNOUNCED MY CANDIDACY IN THE MIDDLE OF A MINNESOTA BLIZZARD AND THERE WERE A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT PREDICTED I WOULDN'T EVEN GET THROUGH THAT SPEECH, BUT NOT THE PEOPLE OF MY STATE AND NOT THE PEOPLE OF NEW HAMPSHIRE. EXCEPT THEN THEY PREDICTED THAT WE WOULDN'T MAKE IT THROUGH THE SUMMER. WE DID. THEN THEY PREDICTED WE WOULDN'T MAKE IT TO THE DEBATES, AND, MAN, WERE WE AT THE DEBATE IN NEW HAMPSHIRE. WE HAVE BEEN STEADY, WE'VE BEEN STRONG,
AND WE'VE NEVER QUIT. I THINK THAT SOUNDS PRETTY GOOD FOR A PRESIDENT. BUT ACROSS THE MONTHS AND MONTHS AND MILES OF THIS RACE, WE DEFINE THE WORD "GRIT." YOU SEE IT WITH OUR HAPPY, SCRAPPY CAMPAIGN. YOU SAW IT IN OUR TEN-COUNTY, 30-HOUR TOUR IN THE MIDDLE OF A NOR'EASTER. LET'S NOT FORGET THAT. YOU SAW IT IN OUR EARLY MORNING DINER STOPS AND OUR LATE-NIGHT RALLIES, AND, YES, YOU SAW IT ON THAT DEBATE STAGE. JUST LIKE SO MANY OF YOU OUT THERE, I KNOW A LITTLE BIT
ABOUT RESILIENCE. MY GRANDPA WORKED 1,500 FEET UNDERGROUND IN THE MINES OF NORTHERN MINNESOTA. HE NEVER GRADUATED FROM HIGH SCHOOL BECAUSE HIS PARENTS WERE SICK. HE HAD NINE BROTHERS AND SISTERS, AND HE HAD TO HELP RAISE THEM. AND EVERY DAY HE WOULD GO DOWN IN THAT CAGE IN THAT MINE CARRYING A LUNCH BUCKET THAT MY GRANDMA WOULD PACK. HIS YOUNGEST SISTER, HANNAH, WAS ONLY 8 YEARS OLD WHEN THEY PUT HER IN AN ORPHANAGE. HE VOWED AFTER HIS PARENTS DIED HE WOULD GO AND GET HER, AND TWO
YEARS LATER HE BORROWED A CAR, HE WENT TO DULUTH AND HE BROUGHT HER HOME. HE AND MY GRANDMA SAVED MONEY IN A COFFEE CAN IN THEIR BASEMENT TO SEND MY DAD TO A TWO-YEAR COMMUNITY COLLEGE. MY DAD THEN BECAME A NEWSPAPER MAN. MY MOM, SHE WAS BORN IN MILWAUKEE, THE SITE OF OUR NEXT CONVENTION. AND SHE CAME TO MINNESOTA AND TAUGHT SECOND GRADE UNTIL SHE WAS 70 YEARS OLD. AND I STILL MEET PEOPLE THAT SAY SHE WAS THEIR FAVORITE TEACHER. SO I STAND BEFORE YOU TODAY AS THE GRANDDAUGHTER OF AN
IRON ORE MINER, AS THE FIRST WOMAN ELECTED TO THE SENATE FROM THE STATE OF MINNESOTA AND A CANDIDATE FOR PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES. THAT IS BECAUSE WE LIVE IN A COUNTRY THAT SHARES DREAMS, NO MATTER WHERE YOU COME FROM, NO MATTER WHO YOU KNOW, NO MATTER THE COLOR OF YOUR SKIN, NO MATTER WHERE YOU WORSHIP, NO MATTER WHO YOU LOVE, THAT YOU CAN MAKE IT IN THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA. I DIDN'T HAVE A PERFECT LIFE. MY DAD STRUGGLED WITH ALCOHOLISM -- >> WE HAVE BEEN
LISTENING INTO AMY KLOBUCHAR, SEE LENGTHS I DECLARING VICTORY IN THE NEW HAMPSHIRE PRIMARY. WE HAVE NOT PROJECTED A WINNER HERE AT NBC NEWS. WE KNOW SHE IS IN THE TOP THREE. SO FAR, SHE IS TRAILING AT LEAST BERNIE SANDERS, POSSIBLY PETE BUTTIGIEG AS WELL. BUT A TACTICAL MOVE ON HER PART AFTER A SURGE HERE IN NEW HAMPSHIRE. WE HAVE BEEN PICKING IT UP ANECDOTALLY THROUGHOUT THE LAST COUPLE OF DAYS THAT THIS WAS POTENTIALLY IN THE MIX FOR AMY KLOBUCHAR AT THE END OF THE NIGHT. DAVID,
YOU OBVIOUSLY HAVE BEEN THROUGH NIGHTS LIKE THIS. WHAT'S YOUR VIEW OF HOW AMY KLOBUCHAR FRAMED THIS AND, YOU KNOW, WHETHER -- AND WHAT HER PATH FORWARD MIGHT BE. >> WELL, MY MOST VIVID EXPERIENCE IN NEW HAMPSHIRE WAS LOSING THE PRIMARY. I THINK SHE -- >> FAIR ENOUGH. >> SHE DID A GOOD JOB, I THINK. SHE IS BUILDING ON HER DEBATE PERFORMANCE. YOU KNOW, THE PRESIDENTIAL CAMPAIGNS, THE WAY THEY WORK, YOU KNOW, SHE GIVES THAT SPEECH AND NOW THEY HAVE TO GO IN A
BUNKER AND FIGURE OUT WHAT'S OUR PLAN. HOW MUCH MONEY CAN WE RAISE? WHAT STATES AM I GOING TO? HOW MUCH AM I GOING TO SPEND IN NEVADA AND SOUTH CAROLINA? SHE IS NOW IN THE MOST ADVANTAGE PLACE IN THE RACE SHE COULD HAVE IMAGINED, BUT THAT'S THE EASY PART IN A WAY. NOW SHE HAS TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO CAPITALIZE ON IT. SHE HAS A STRONG MESSAGE. IT CLEARLY WORKED IN NEW HAMPSHIRE. NOW, LET'S, YOU KNOW, SHE CAME IN THIRD. SHE DIDN'T WIN OR COME IN SECOND, BUT I THINK SHE IS GOING
TO NOW GET A LOT MORE SCRUTINY. YOU KNOW, A LOT MORE TENSION -- >> LITLET ME ASK YOU ABOUT THAT. WHAT ARE THE LINES OF ATTACK AGAINST HER THAT YOU FORESEE HER RIVALS COMING OUT TOMORROW OR THE NEXT DAY ON THE AIR? >> WE WILL SEE HOW MUCH ARE DIRECT VERSUS, YOU KNOW, SHARING RESOURCES WITH REPORTERS. THE NEWS MEDIA IS GOING TO LOOK AT HER. HER TIME AS A PROSECUTOR. WE SAW KAMALA HARRIS STRUGGLE WITH THAT IN THIS PRIMARY. SHE WAS AN AFRICAN AMERICAN CANDIDATE. I THINK AMY
KLOBUCHAR WILL BE FACED WITH THAT FOR SURE. I DON'T KNOW IF WE WILL GET BACK TO SOME OF THE QUESTIONS ABOUT HER CHARACTER WHERE SHE ENTERED THE RACE AND TEMPERAMENT. BUT IT'S ALWAYS NICE WHEN YOU DO WELL. IN NATIONAL POLITICS THERE IS DONE SIDE, TOO, BECAUSE YOU GET RAKED OVER THE COALS. MY UNDERSTANDING IS WAS ON "THE VIEW" THIS MORNING ON ABC AND WAS ASKED ABOUT A CASE IN PARTICULAR AND I THINK FOLKS I TALKED TO DIDN'T THINK SHE HANDLED IT PARTICULARLY WELL. WE
HAVE GOT A DEBATE COMING UP THE MIDDLE OF NEXT WEEK WHICH I THINK WE'LL SEE. MY SENSE IS IT WON'T BE AS IMPORTANT AS THE NEW HAMPSHIRE DEBATE BECAUSE SO MANY PEOPLE IN NEW HAMPSHIRE -- IT'S A SMALL STATE. A VERY POLITICAL STATE. PEOPLE ARE TUNED IN. IT WILL STILL BE IMPORTANT. SO I THINK FOR HER IT'S ALL ABOUT HOW DOES SHE BUILD ON THIS PERFORMANCE TONIGHT. NOW, WHAT'S INTERESTING, YOU KNOW, WE'VE GOT A LOT OF VOTES LEFT AND THE MARGIN IS TIGHTENING BETWEEN ONE
AND TWO. SO IF THAT BECOMES THE STORY, HER THIRD-PLACE STORY IS STILL A BIG DEAL. THEY DESERVE AN ENORMOUS AMOUNT OF CREDIT HOW THEY FINISHED. >> LET'S TALK ABOUT GENDER, WHICH HAS LOOMED LARGE IN THIS PRIMARY RACE, BOTH IN TERMS OF RECORD NUMBER OF WOMEN CANDIDATES JUMPING IN TO A PRIMARY, BUT ALSO A LOT OF DOUBT AND HAND WRINGING ABOUT WHETHER A WOMAN WAS CAPABLE OF BEATING PRESIDENT TRUMP. AMY KLOBUCHAR SEEMS TO BE THE STRONGEST WOMAN STILL STANDING IN THIS PRIMARY. HOW
MUCH DOES THE GENDER QUESTION CONTINUE TO PLAY OUT FOR HER? HOW BIG OF A HURDLE IS IT? >> I THINK IT'S A BIG ONE. WHEN WE WERE LISTENING TO ELIZABETH WARREN'S SPEECH A COUPLE OF MINUTES AGO IN NEW HAMPSHIRE, SHE PRAISED AMY KLOBUCHAR AND SAID, SEE, YOU KNOW, A WOMAN CAN DO IT. AND SO SHE MADE A POINT TO GIVE AMY KLOBUCHAR HER DUE. AND I THINK THAT THEY ARE SEEING THEM -- IT SEEMS LIKE THEY SAW SOMETHING AS WELL PROBABLY IN THEIR INTERNAL POLLING OR THEIR FOCUS GROUP THAT
THERE WAS A PROBLEM. THE GENDER THING WAS SOMETHING THAT PLAYED OUT WITH SOME OF THESE -- SOME OF THE SUPPORTERS. AND SO THAT'S SOMETHING THAT AMY KLOBUCHAR REALLY IS GOING TO HAVE TO DEAL WITH. I THINK THE REASON WHY SHE DID SO WELL AND ENDED IN A PLACE THAT WE WERE SO SURPRISED, WE ARE SURPRISED BY BECAUSE, REMEMBER, IOWA WAS SUPPOSED TO BE AMY ALL IN. SHE WAS SUPPOSED TO BE "ALL IN" IOWA AND SEE WHERE THAT TOOK HER. BUT BECAUSE IOWA WAS SO MUDDLED, IT GAVE MANY PEOPLE
AN OPPORTUNITY TO GO TO NEW HAMPSHIRE TO SEE WHAT WOULD HAPPEN, AND THAT DEBATE PERFORMANCE REALLY DID IT FOR HER. PEOPLE SAW HER AS PRESIDENTIAL, SAW HER AS GREAT. THE WORDS SHE USES TO DESCRIBE HERSELF. NOW THE QUESTION IS, DOES SHE HAVE THE MONEY TO CONTINUE, AND HOW DOES THAT GENDER COMPONENT PLAY, BECAUSE I THINK IT DID HURT ELIZABETH WARREN. >> ESPECIALLY AFTER SHE, OF COURSE, GOT INTO THAT NASTY AND PUBLIC BACK AND FORTH WITH BERNIE SANDERS WHO SHE ACCUSED OF CALLING
HER A LIAR ON NATIONAL TELEVISION. ROAD WARRIOR FOLLOWING THE BUTTIGIEG CAMPAIGN, VAUGHN HILLIARD. WE ARE WAITING TO HEAR FROM THE CANDIDATE THAT YOU HAVE BEEN COVERING IN THESE FINAL DAYS, AMY KLOBUCHAR KIND OF BEATING HIM TO THE PUNCH, GETTING OUT IN FRONT OF CAMERAS FIRST. WHAT ARE YOU HEARING FROM INSIDE THE BUTTIGIEG CAMPAIGN? WHAT'S THEIR UNDERSTANDING OF WHERE THE RACE STANDS? DO THEY FEEL LIKE THEY ARE IN A RACE FOR SECOND OR A RACE POTENTIALLY FOR FIRST? ARE THEY STILL IN
THE HUNT HERE? >> I JUST TALKED TO SOMEBODY FROM THE CAMPAIGN. THEY TELL ME THEY ARE FEELING GOOD BASED OFF OF THESE NUMBERS HERE. LOOK IT, PETE BUTTIGIEG HAS A COUPLE POINT ADVANTAGE OVER AMY KLOBUCHAR AS IT STANDS NOW WITH A LITTLE BIT MORE THAN HALF OF THE VOTE TOTAL COUNTED HERE. IT WOULD BE IDEAL TO BE ON TOP OF BERNIE SANDERS HERE, BUT AT SOME POINT YOU COULD MAKE THIS A BINARY RACE, THAT IS THE ULTIMATE GOAL OF THE BUTTIGIEG CAMPAIGN. IT WAS A NECESSITY TO COME OUT OF
IOWA AND NEW HAMPSHIRE WITH THAT BEING THE CASE AND THE RESULTS OUT OF THESE FIRST TWO STATES BECAUSE NEVADA AND SOUTH CAROLINA ARE THAT MUCH HARDER ACCORDING TO THE POLLING. PETE BUTTIGIEG'S POLLING NUMBERS SIGNIFICANTLY WENT UP AFTER THE IOWA CAUCUS VICTORY HERE. YOU SAW THE EXIT POLLS THAT SHOWED FOLKS CHOOSING DAY OF, GREAT NUMBERS TOWARDS PETE BUTTIGIEG. THIS IS A CANDIDATE WHO, YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY SAW SOME ADVANTAGE FROM JOE BIDEN'S -- NOT ONLY IN IOWA, BUT MADE FOLKS
REALLY TAKE A SECOND-GUESS AT WHO WAS THE MOST ELECTABLE CANDIDATE AGAINST DONALD TRUMP. WHEN YOU LOOK SOME MORE OF THAT EXIT POLLING, PETE BUTTIGIEG SECURED THE HIGHEST FEEDBACK IN TERMS OF FOLKS THAT THE DEBATE SHOWS THEIR VOTE TODAY BASED ON WHO THEY BELIEVED WAS THE BEST POSITION TO BEAT DONALD TRUMP. PETE BUTTIGIEG WAS THE TOP CHOICE. THIS IS A CANDIDATE WHO, OF COURSE, HAS TO DEAL WITH THE WILDCARD OF AMY KLOBUCHAR WHO, BASED OFF OF THAT SPEECH YOU JUST HEARD, HAS NO INTENTION
OF LEAVING. PETE BUTTIGIEG WANTS TO BE THAT CANDIDATE WHO IS GOING TO BE ABLE TO MAKE THE CASE HE BUILT UP A CAMPAIGN ORGANIZATION, THAT HAS BEEN ABLE TO SHOW AN ABILITY TO BRING IN THE RESOURCES TO SUSTAIN BEYOND THESE FIRST TWO STATES. HE MADE A STRONG CASE, ESPECIALLY IN THE LAST THREE WEEKS IN IOWA AND HERE IN NEW HAMPSHIRE THAT HE WAS THE BEST EQUIPPED TO WIN OVER THE MORE MODERATE VOTERS, MODERATE INDEPENDENTS OR DISAFFECTED REPUBLICANS. SO FAR, BASED OFF OF EXIT POLLING IN
IOWA AND NEW HAMPSHIRE, AND THE RESULTS OUT OF SOME MORE OF THOSE LITTLE TOWNSHIPS, HE CHOSE TO A CERTAIN EXTENT AN ABILITY TO DO THAT. THEY UNDERSTAND THEY HAVE ISSUES WITH COMMUNITIES OF COLOR, BUT THEY ARE GOING TO HAVE TO CONVINCE THAT THEY ARE WELL EQUIPPED TO BE THAT NOMINEE FOR THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY THAT CAN BEAT DONALD TRUMP NEXT NOVEMBER. >> YEAH, THAT'S GOING TO BE THE REAL TEST, I THINK, VAUGHN, SINCE THE POLLING SHOWED HE HAS HAD NO TRACTION WITH PEOPLE OF COLOR
DESPITE SO FAR BEING WHAT MARK MURRAY CALLED THE GOLDILOCKS CANDIDATE. THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MY FRIEND. WE WILL SEE YOU LATER TONIGHT. NBC NEWS ROAD WARRIOR SHAQ BREWSTER WITH US. SHAQ, WE STILL HAVEN'T PROJECTED A WINNER HERE AT NBC NEWS. WHAT IS BEHIND THE CAMPAIGN AS THEY WAIT FOR A FORMAL CALL HERE? I MEAN, ARE THEY ANGRY IT HASN'T BEEN CALLED YET? ARE THEY WORRIED ABOUT PARTICULAR PIECES OF THE VOTE THAT MAY BE STILL OUT? WHAT'S GOING ON BEHIND THE SCENES? >>
OPTIMISM. THEY FEEL LIKE THEY HAVE THIS. THEY FEEL IT'S CLOSE. OF COURSE, THEY WILL WAIT FOR THE OFFICIAL CALL. YOU GET A SENSE PEOPLE ARE MORE OPTIMISTIC ABOUT IT. AT THE HEADQUARTERS YOU ARE HEARING THE CROWD REALLY EXCITED. I DON'T KNOW IF THE PICTURE WAS UP, BUT YOU JUST SAW HIS CAMPAIGN CHAIR PEOPLE COME IN TO THE VENUE AND THE CROWD EXPLODED IN APPLAUSE. I DON'T KNOW IF YOU CAN SEE IT. I AM LOOKING BACK THERE. YOU MIGHT SEE DR. CORNELL WEBB, SOME OF HIS HEAD, NINA
TURNER, CAME PAIN CO-CHAIR CAME OUT AND KIND OF WARMED UP THE CROWD. IT WAS A BIG BERNIE CHANT, PEOPLE HOLDING UP THE SIGNS. HIS STAFF, THEY WERE HERE. I GET A SENSE THAT SENATOR SANDERS IS PROBABLY IN THE BUILDING OR CLOSE RIGHT NOW. WHAT YOU ARE HEARING RIGHT NOW, THEY'RE GONNA WAIT UNTIL WE GET MORE RESULTS IN AS WE CONTINUE TO WATCH THIS RACE COME IN. THE ONE THING I WANT TO NOTE FOR THIS CAMPAIGN IS THAT THIS IS A NIGHT -- AND I HAD AN INTERVIEW WITH SENATOR SANDERS EARLIER.
HE BRUSHED OFF THE IDEA OF HIM NEED TO GO WIN HERE IN NEW HAMPSHIRE. HE SAID THAT'S MEDIA SPECULATION. NOW, WE HAVE SAID HE IS ON HOME TURF RIGHT NOW, HOME FIELD ADVANTAGE AND HE NEEDS TO DO WELL HERE BECAUSE HE TALKED ABOUT ELECTABILITY AS A FUNDAMENTAL PITCH TO VOTERS. HE SAID HE CAN BRING OUT THE ENERGY AND EXCITEMENT TO TAKE ON DONALD TRUMP. HIS CAMPAIGN HAS INVESTED A LOT IN NEW HAMPSHIRE. AS THINGS ARE TIGHTENING UP, IT BRINGS INTO QUESTION WHAT HE CAN DO GOING BEYOND HERE.
HIS CAMPAIGN IS INVESTING IN NEW HAMPSHIRE AND THEY ANNOUNCED THEY ARE INVESTING IN SUPER TUESDAY STATES. THEY PUT UP THEIR FIRST AD LAST WEEK IN SOUTH CAROLINA. THEY FEEL LIKE THEY HAVE FIRM TURF AHEAD OF THEM IF YOU LOOK AT SOUTH CAROLINA, NEVADA, WHERE IT'S MORE DIVERSE. I AM LOOKING AT WHAT THE CROWD IS CHEERING OUT. AGAIN THE CAMPAIGN CO-CHAIR TRYING TO RILE UP THE CROWD. YOU GET THE SENSE THINGS ARE GETTING CLOSE. SEEMS LIKE SOMETHING MAY BE IMMINENT. >> RIGHT. SHAQ, I
GET WHY THEY ARE TRYING TO MANAGE EXPECTATIONS. THIS IS SOMEBODY WHO WON NEW HAMPSHIRE BY THE BIGGEST MARGIN WE HAVE SEEN POTENTIALLY POISED TO WIN AGAIN BY THE SMALLEST MARGIN EVER. CHUCK TODD. >> YES. YOU KNOW, THE LAST TIME WE HAD A NEW HAMPSHIRE PRIMARY VICTOR OF ANY SORT WITH THIS LOW OF A PERCENTAGE WAS 1996 REPUBLICANS, PAT BUCHANAN'S UPSET VICTORY. IT IS A REMINDER THAT IT IS -- AND BUCHANAN WITH A SMALL SLICE OF THE REPUBLICAN ELECTORATE. OBVIOUSLY, SANDERS HAS A
VERY SOLID CHUNK THAT'S WITH HIM UNTIL THE END. BUT HE HAS TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO EXPAND THE ELECTORATE. >> WHERE DOES HE GO NEXT? HE HAS A SHOT IN NEVADA. WHAT HAPPENS IN SOUTH CAROLINA? I DON'T SEE IT. I DON'T SEE THE WORKING CLASS CERTAINLY NOT THE PEOPLE OF COLOR -- >> DOES THAT HELP HIM IN SOUTH CAROLINA? THIS CASE WAS REVERSED, RIGHT? HE LOST IT BIG AND THIS TIME HE ONLY LOSES BY A FEW POINTS. >> THE STRATEGY, TOO, POINTS. >> HIS STRATEGY WAS
VERY MUCH BEYOND -- NEVADA WAS A ROUGH MOMENT FOR THEM IN THIS CAMPAIGN. THEY HIT NEVADA AND FRANKLY THERE WAS A CULINARY FIRE WALL FOR HILLARY CLINTON. AND SANDERS REALLY STRUGGLED WITH AFRICAN-AMERICAN VOTERS IN 2016. I THINK SOME OF THE POLLING ON HIS PROGRESS WITH THAT DEMOGRAPHIC IS INTERESTING. IF YOU CAN MAKE SOME TURNS WITH THAT, YOU CAN POTENTIALLY SEE AN UNPREDICTABLE RACE. BUT HE'S THE ONLY PERSON THAT HAS DONE THIS RECENTLY. HE DID RUN A CAMPAIGN BEFORE AND HE RAN IT
ACROSS THE COUNTRY, SO THEY KNOW THE CHALLENGES THEY'RE FACING. >> EVERY TIME HE GETS ATTACKED, HE JUST, YOU KNOW, SENDS AN E-MAIL OUT TO HIS SUPPORTERS. >> AND THEY HAVE AGREED TO BE RECURRING DONORS. >> YES. >> IT TAKES A LONG TIME TO GET TO $2,700, WHERE WE ARE THIS EVENING. >> THE SANDERS SUPPORTERS ARE SO TAKEN BY THE MOVEMENT, IT'S LIKE TITHING. THERE IS A LOT OF WORKING PEOPLE WHO YOU THINK, THEY CAN'T AFFORD TO BE DOING THAT. THIS IS
BELIEF. THIS IS BIGGER THAN THAT. WHAT BERNIE SANDERS SAYS ABOUT HIS MOVEMENT IS TRUE. THEY FEEL LIKE THIS IS A MISSION. THIS ISN'T -- AND I THINK SOMETIMES WE'RE CYNICAL ABOUT IT OR WE'RE PORTRAYED AS BEING CYNICAL ABOUT IT. IT IS A MOVEMENT THAT HAS THIS -- YOU KNOW, THEY LIVE IN THIS CONSTELLATION. THE PROBLEM IS ARE THEY WELCOMING TO OTHERS? >> OBVIOUSLY THERE WAS BOOING OF HILLARY CLINTON AS RECENTLY AS LAST WEEK. >> AND HOW DO THEY -- I MEAN, FOR THE LIFE
OF ME, I DON'T KNOW HOW EITHER SIDE FIGURES OUT TO GET TO THE OTHER. >> I DON'T KNOW HOW LONG IT TOOK HIM TO ACTUALLY ENDORSE HILLARY CLINTON BECAUSE THE MONEY KEEPS COMING AND COMING. >> IN FAIRNESS, YOU KNOW, SHE WASN'T -- IT HAS ALWAYS BEEN PORTRAYED AS A ONE SIDED STORY. SHE WASN'T EXACTLY THE BEST WINNER EITHER. AND THAT'S ALWAYS BEEN THIS -- YOU KNOW, FAMOUS PEOPLE NO DOUBT. BUT YOU HAVE HEARD THIS ARGUMENT WHERE, WAIT A MINUTE, YES, OUR PEOPLE
WERE NASTY TO HER, BUT YOUR PEOPLE DIDN'T AFFECT US. >> THERE IS THAT. BUT I THINK BACK TO THE CONVENTION IN 2016 AND, YOU KNOW, THE FIRST DAY THEY DECIDED THEY WOULD GIVE BERNIE SANDERS SUPPORTERS HIS DAY. AND THEY PASSED A ROOM AND THEY WERE AFRAID OF WHAT WAS GOING TO HAPPEN WITH THESE PEOPLE IN THE CONVENTION HALL. IT WAS A BIG BALLROOM AWAY FROM THE MAIN FLOOR AND EVERYBODY WAS INCREDIBLY ANGRY ABOUT HOW BERNIE SANDERS WAS TREATED. I REMEMBER FOLLOWING BERNIE SANDERS UP.
THEY PUT THE SPOTLIGHT ON HIM WHEN HE TOOK HIS SEAT. HIS BROTHER WAS THERE. IT'S NOT AS THOUGH HE HAD A BIG SPEAKING SLOT ON THE STAGE. THERE WAS NOT THIS BIG MOMENT OF RECONCILIATION AND EVERYONE IS STILL VERY, VERY ANGRY ABOUT IT. >> HE WASN'T TREATED LIKE A -- THAT CONVENTION DIDN'T TREAT HIM AS A PRIMARY RIVAL. I WANT TO BRING IN DAVE WASSERMAN. WHAT ARE YOU WATCHING RIGHT NOW? WE'RE CIRCLING THIS RUNWAY, BUT WE'RE CIRCLING. YOU KNOW, WE'RE NOT RUSHING IT.
AND THERE IS PLENTY OF REASONS WHY WE'RE NOT RUSHING IT. WE HAVEN'T SEEN ANYTHING OUT OF DURHAM. WE ASSUME THAT SHOULD BE GOOD FOR SANDERS. BUT PETE BUTTIGIEG HAS DONE PRETTY WELL IN THESE COLLEGE TOWNS HIMSELF. >> YES. AND THE MARGIN IS NARROWING. IT IS LIKELY THAT SANDERS' ADVANTAGE IS GOING TO CONTINUE TO SHRINK AS THE NIGHT GOES ON BECAUSE WE SEE A LOT OF SUBURBAN TOWNS THAT HAVEN'T REPORTED IN YET. WE JUST GOT WIND OF WYNDHAM WHERE BUTTIGIEG GOT DOUBLE THE
VOTERS OF SANDERS. IT MAY NOT BE ENOUGH TO PUT BUTTIGIEG ON TOP. AT THE SAME TIME, HE HAS TO LOOK AT THE CLOSENESS OF THE MARGIN. IF SANDERS DOES HANG ON IN THE NUMBER ONE SPOT, THEN KLOBUCHAR IS LIKELY RESPONSIBLE FOR PREVENTING BUTTIGIEG FOR COMING OUT WITH A WIN HERE AND BUILDING MOMENTUM. >> AND YOU ARE ALREADY HEARING RESENTMENT FROM SOME OF THE BUTTIGIEG PEOPLE TALKING ABOUT THAT. >> BUT IN FAIRNESS, THIS IS WHAT CAMPAIGNS ARE ABOUT. I THINK IT IS A REMINDER, DEBATES
CAN MATTER. CAMPAIGNS CAN MATTER, HOW YOU RUN YOUR RACE. YES, THEY CAN SAY THAT. >> HOW THE HELL ARE YOU GOING TO DEAL WITH DONALD TRUMP? >> AND THIS IS NOT A -- KLOBUCHAR WAS A LEGITIMATE PUSH BACK. >> I LOOK AT AMY KLOBUCHAR AND PETE BUTTIGIEG HAVE OVERPERFORMED THE POLLS. SEEING PETE BUTTIGIEG AT 25% IS STRONGER THAN MOST OF THE TRACKING WE HAVE SEEN THROUGHOUT. AND AMY KLOBUCHAR IS THAT 18 TO 20 POINTS. THOSE NUMBERS ARE REALLY SIMILAR TO THE POPULAR VOTES WE SAW
IN IOWA. NOT A WHOLE LOT HAS CHANGED, BUT WHAT HAS CHANGED IS THAT AMY KLOBUCHAR ENDED UP LOOKING LIKE SHE GOT A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF THE JOE BIDEN AND MAYBE A LITTLE BIT ELIZABETH WARREN. >> IT DEFINITELY SEEMS THAT WAY FOR SURE. I THINK THE QUESTION NOW IS, YOU KNOW, DO THESE -- DO THE MODERATE RIVALS TO BERNIE SANDERS CONTINUE TO ELBOW AND FIGHT WITH EACH OTHER TO THE POINT THAT IT CLEARS A PATH FOR SANDERS HEADING TOWARD THE CONVENTION? AND WE HAVEN'T TALKED VERY MUCH
TONIGHT ABOUT MIKE BLOOMBERG. >> NO, WE HAVEN'T. BUT, HEY, THIS IS BARACK OBAMA'S PARTY, STILL. >> IT IS. >> WE ASKED A QUESTION INDICATING THIS: SHOULD THE NEXT PRESIDENT'S POLICY BE MORE LIBERAL 41% OF THE PARTY. 11% MORE CONSERVATIVES. BASICALLY HALF THE PARTY WANTING TO SEE, YOU KNOW, EITHER SMALLER CHANGE OR A RETURN TO QUOTE, UNQUOTE WHAT WE HAD. WHAT'S INTERESTING IS GOING INSIDE THE NUMBERS ON THIS. IN RETURNING TO BARACK OBAMA POLICIES, IT WAS
27-26 KLOBUCHAR/BUTTIGIEG. AND MORE CONSERVATIVE, THE 10%, KLOBUCHAR WON THAT. SO TO YOUR POINT, IT IS STILL BARACK OBAMA'S DEMOCRATIC PARTY. >> BUT AGAIN I THINK WHAT THE BERNIE SANDERS CAMPAIGN IS TRYING TO DO IS TRY TO KNOCK ON THE DOORS OF THAT PARTY AND BREAK IT DOWN WITH ALL THE FRACTURING WE HAVE ACTUALLY SEEN IN THE ENTIRE RACE. IF HE ENDS UPHOLDING ON FOR A WIN HERE IS HIS CLAIM THAT HE'S GOING TO CHANGE THE COMPOSITION OF THE ELECTOR RAT, WE ARE GOING TO END UP
HAVING A REVOLUTION. WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE EXIT POLLS HERE, THE SHARE OF YOUNGER VOTERS IS SMALLER THAN WHAT WE SAW IN 2016. THAT IS LIKE A LOT OF CRITICS SAYING, WE HEARD THE SAME THING FROM JEREMY CORBIN, THE LABOR POLICY, THE SOCIAL POLICIES WILL END UP INSPIRING PEOPLE AND IT REALLY DIDN'T EVER MATERIALIZE. >> LOOK, PUT THIS TOGETHER.

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TO 2016, THIS ELECTORATE DIDN'T GET YOUNGER. IT GOT OLDER. LOST IT ON FIVE POINTS THERE. IT WAS MORE LIBERAL FOUR YEARS AGO THAN IT
WAS THIS TIME. YOU SEE THAT THE COALITION THAT SANDERS PUT TOGETHER -- BY THE WAY, THERE IS ALSO PART OF ME THAT SAYS, WE OVERLOOKED A BIG SOMETHING FOUR YEARS AGO. THERE IS A QUARTER OF THE PARTY THAT WAS DEAD SET AGAINST HILLARY CLINTON. THEY WERE WILLING TO BE WITH SANDERS. AND THE MINUTE THEY HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO ABANDON SANDERS, THEY DID. >> AND I ALSO LISTENED THROUGH THIS, CHUCK, AND IT DOES MAKE ME WONDER JUST HOW DONALD TRUMP HAS MOTIVATED SOME OF THESE OLDER SUBURBAN
VOTERS WHO PERHAPS ARE INDEPENDENTS OR REPUBLICANS. I THINK THERE IS SIGNS IN THERE THAT WE MAY BE SEEING SOME VOTERS HERE WHO -- BERNIE SANDERS HAS HIS MOVEMENT. HE'S GOT THE KIDS WHO HAVE COME OUT FOR HIM. WE'RE STILL LOOKING AT THE OVERALL TURN-OUT NUMBERS. SOME OF THAT IS PEOPLE THAT HAVE BEEN SO TURNED OUT BY TRUMP. THAT COULD BE SOMETHING THAT WORKS IN THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY IN THE LONG-RUN. >> IT LOOKS LIKE DEMOCRATS ARE GOING TO BREATHE A SIGH OF RELIEF HERE AND
THAT TURN-OUT LOOKS LIKE IT WILL BE CLOSE. >> IF IT DOESN'T, THEY'VE GOT A REAL PROBLEM BECAUSE WHAT IOWA PROVED FROM THAT ONE TURN-OUT WAS THAT THERE IS NOT THE ENTHUSIASM, THE EXCITEMENT, THE FEAR OF TRUMP OR THE ABILITY TO RALLY AROUND ANY SINGLE CANDIDATE, ANY SINGLE ALTERNATIVE THAT WILL GET THE MOTIVATION GOING. >> CONTROL ROOM, PUT UP THE BOARDS HERE BECAUSE THE MARGINS BETWEEN SANDERS AND BUTTIGIEG IS NOW BELOW 5,000. LOOKS LIKE IT'S ABOUT 4,500.
THIS GOES TO WHAT DAVE WASSERMAN SAID. IF YOU'RE PETE, YOU WANTER TO BE CLOSER TO FIRST THAN THIRD. >> WE ARE SEEING UNOFFICIAL RESULTS. DIFFERENT PARTS OF THE STATE HAVE BEEN DOING VERY WELL WITH YOUNG PEOPLE IN THE DARTMOUTH AREA. >> THEY THINK THEY'RE GOING TO WIN DARTMOUTH. IT'S A WEATHER IN HIS GAP BECAUSE THERE HAS BEEN THIS HIT ON HIM. >> I THINK ONE OF THE BIG DIVIDES BETWEEN SANDERS AND THE REST OF THE FIELD IS FRANKLY HOW HE PERFORMS WITH
LOWER-INCOME VOTERS AND NONCOLLEGE EDUCATED VOTERS AS WELL. IF YOU ARE SPENDING -- FRANKLY, THE STUDENT THAT ATTENDS DARTMOUTH, THEY HAVE SOME THINGS IN COMMON WITH PEOPLE GOING TO UNH OR SOME OF THE OTHER SCHOOLS HERE IN MANCHESTER. BUT LET'S REMEMBER THAT THE ELITE VERSUS THE NON-ELITES HAVE BEEN SUCH A DRIVING FORCE IN OUR POLITICS FOR THE LAST FOUR YEARS, AND WE TEND TO LUMP ALL COLLEGE EDUCATED PEOPLE TOGETHER, BUT THEY'RE NOT NECESSARILY THE SAME. >> AND THIS IS
SUCH A UNIQUE -- JANE KEEPS REMINDED US. THE HIGHEST EDUCATED ELECTORATE IS IN NEW HAMPSHIRE. >> IT'S AN ENGAGED ELECTORATE, TOO. GOING BACK TO PETE BUTTIGIEG, TO ME, A WIN IS STILL A WIN. >> BERNIE SANDERS HERE IN NEW HAMPSHIRE IS A DIFFERENT STORY. >> IF YOU TOLD ME GOING INTO TONIGHT IT WAS GOING TO BE A TWO OR THREE POINT RACE, I WOULD SAY YOU HAVE TO MAKE SURE THAT PETE BUTTIGIEG'S CANDIDACY IS FOR REAL. >> AND ONE TIP-OFF WAS A WOMAN WHO SAID SHE
WILL DECIDE WHEN SHE WAS IN THE BOOTH. HOW DO YOU MAKE UP YOUR MIND? I DECIDED ON MO, SO I VOTED FOR KLOBUCHAR. KLOBUCHAR WAS SITTING NEXT TO ME. SHE SAID, YOU'RE MO. I SAID, I'LL TAKE IT! IT'S A VOTE. >> YOU DON'T WANT TO BE LARRY AND CURLY. COME ON. YOU HAVE TO DO A STOOGES REFERENCE EVERY NOW AND THEN. >> I THINK THERE IS TOO MUCH OF A GENERATIONAL DIFFERENCE BETWEEN YOU AND ME. I'M GENERATION X. I'M A MILLENNIAL. >> I HEAR YOU. EXPLAIN THE
PETE BUTTIGIEG THING WITH THE MILLENNIALMILLENNIALS. >> I DO NOT KNOW IF I'M THE RIGHT PERSON TO ASK. BUT, YOU KNOW, I THINK THE CHALLENGES THAT HE HAS SET HIMSELF AGAINST, AGAIN, BERNIE SANDERS, AND I HAVE TO SAY THAT IT'S REMARKABLE HONESTLY HOW MANY PEOPLE I FIND IN MY AGE COHORT, MILLENNIALS WHO HOLD BERNIE SANDERS UP AS THIS CULT FIGURE. I THINK HIS APPEAL IS THE FACT HE SEEMS AUTHENTIC. THE SYSTEM MAKES HIM GROUCHY AND THEY KIND OF LOVE THAT. WHEREAS PETE BUTTIGIEG
IS SOMEBODY THAT HAS PLAYED BY MOST OF THE RULES HIS WHOLE LIFE, DONE EVERY SINGLE THING RIGHT. HE HAD A MAJOR CHALLENGE IN PUBLIC LIFE IN THAT -- I'M NOT SURE WHAT EXACTLY THE BARRIER IS, BUT BEING AN OPENLY GAY CANDIDATE IS NOT SOMETHING WE SHOULD FORGET. BUT THEY HAVE DIFFERENT WAYS OF WORKING INTO THE WORLD. IF YOU WIFE INTO THE SYSTEM WE HAVE, PETE BUTTIGIEG IS PROBABLY MORE APPEALING. >> THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN SANDERS AND BUTTIGIEG TONIGHT IS TOTAL FAMILY INCOME.
BERNIE WON AMONG THOSE THAT MAKE $30 TO $50. YOU MADE $100,000 OR MORE IN YOUR TOTAL FAMILY INCOME, IT IS NOT EVEN A CLOSE CALL. IT IS BUTTIGIEG WITH 36%. HE DOUBLED KLOBUCHAR AND SANDERS ON THAT FRONT. IN FACT, KLOBUCHAR AND SANDERS COMBINED ON THAT. IT SHOWS YOU WHO HE IS. HE IS THE CANDIDATE OF THE SUBURBAN DEMOCRAT. I'M LOOKING. OH, THAT'S NORTHERN VIRGINIA. THAT WILL BE THE SUBURBS OF RALEIGH AND CHARLOTTE. THAT WILL BE ORANGE COUNTY, CALIFORNIA. YOU CAN START TAKING THIS AND
EXTRAPOLATE IT OUT. THIS IS NO LONGER A BATTLE OF FACE. IT IS MARKETING AND CONGRESSIONAL DISTRICTS. >> BUT YOU KNOW WHAT IT'S NOT THOUGH, CHUCK, FOR BUTTIGIEG IS THE PRICE OBAMA WON TRUMP. >> IT'S A GOOD TALKING POINT, BUT IT ISN'T THAT. >> SOMEBODY ONCE EXPLAINED BERNIE SANDERS TO ME, HIS APPEAL, AS HE'S NOT MANAGEMENT. HE'S ON YOUR TEAM. >> HE'S A YOUNG LEADER. >> WELL, HE'S NOT IN CHARGE, RIGHT? HE'S ONE OF US.
HE'S ONE OF THE WORKING MEN. HE'S NOT ON TOP. AND THAT THAT IS WHAT HAS GOTTEN HIM SO FAR IN POLITICS AND CONTINUES TO BE HIS APPEAL TODAY. >> BY THE WAY, HE CARES ABOUT PEOPLE LIKE ME. THAT'S AN IMPORTANT THING. THIS IS SOMETHING THAT I DO THINK WE UNDERESTIMATE ABOUT SANDERS IS THAT AT THE END OF THE DAY, PEOPLE ALL AGREE ON A COUPLE OF THINGS. THE GUY IS AUTHENTIC AND HONEST. >> CONSISTENT. >> CONSISTENT AND HE CARES ABOUT PEOPLE LIKE ME. EVEN IF YOU
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AND THE DANGER IS THAT IF OUR POLITICS GROW TOO TRIBAL, THEN WE'LL LOSE THE SORT OF WAY OF TALKING. >> WHY IS THIS HAPPENING WITH CHRIS HAYES, SUBSCRIBE NOW. >>> WE ARE BACK, AND WE HAVE NOT CALLED THIS RACE. IF YOU WATCHED THE MARGIN, I THINK WE CAN BRING THE BOARD UP. WE DO KNOW A LOT OF THOSE COMMUTER COUNTIES ARE STILL COMING IN. WE HAVE BEEN WATCHING EVER SO SLOWLY THE MARGIN HAS BEEN CREEPING. IT NOW LOOKS LIKE 4,200. IT WAS 4,500. HERE'S WHAT THIS REALLY
MEANS, THOUGH. WE KNOW TONIGHT THAT, ASSUMING IOWA DOESN'T CHANGE ITS DELEGATE TOTAL ON US. DON'T ASSUME ANYTHING. BUT I BELIEVE WE CAN PUT UP -- YOU KNOW, WHEN ALL IS SAID AND DONE WITH THE DELEGATES, WE HAVE ASSIGNED MOST OF THEM. IT LOOKS LIKE WE HAVE FIVE TO AWARD HERE. >> VERY IMPRESSIVE. YOU ARE ON AIR NOW. >> WE GOT FIVE MORE DELEGATES TO AWARD HERE, BUT IT IS VERY POSSIBLE AND LIKELY WHEN I'M WATCHING THE NUMBERS HERE, MARK MURRAY, THAT BERNIE SANDERS
WILL SAY I'VE GOT MORE VOTES THAN ANYBODY IN IOWA AND NEW HAMPSHIRE AND PETE BUTTIGIEG IS GOING TO SAY, YEAH, BUT I'M ONING THE DELEGATES BATTLE. MAYBE BY ONLY ONE. BUT IT LOOKS LIKE HE WILL HAVE A ONE OR TWO DELEGATE LEAD. >> TWO WEEKS AGO HAS WE TOLD YOU THAT PETE BUTTIGIEG WOULD HAVE THE DELEGATE LEAD AFTER THIS, I THINK EVERYONE WOULD BE VERY SURPRISED. NOW THE BURDEN BECOMES, CAN THEY MAXIMIZE MISTAKES THAT DON'T LOOK LIKE IOWA AND NEW HAMPSHIRE. >> I WAS
AT THE POLLS TODAY AND NEW HAMPSHIRE VOTERS WERE SAYING, WE'RE REALLY HOPING FOR CLARITY AFTER TONIGHT. WE'D LIKE TO REALLY BE ABLE TO SAY THIS PERSON IS A CLEAR FRONT RUNNER. I ALWAYS SAY, THIS IS THE STATE THAT'S GOING TO REALLY AT LEAST BEGIN TO CLARIFY THINGS. I THINK WHAT YOU ARE GOING TO SEE AND WE STILL HAVE TO WAIT FOR THE RESULTS TO BE FINAL IZED, YOU WILL SEE THEM TRYING TO GAIN VICTORY. AMY KLOBUCHAR REINTRODUCING HERSELF TO THE ENTIRE COUNTRY AFTER THIS.
>> I CAN PICTURE THE LINE. >> OH, NO. THIS IS THE BEAUTY. YOU GET TO LEARN ALL THE TRICKS. BUT HERE IS THE THING. WHEN YOU WAKE UP AND TURN ON YOUR TODAY SHOW. >> COLD OPEN. >> THE COLD OPEN, WHEN THAT'S GOING TO BE IN THERE, YOU ARE GOING TO HEAR THAT. AND WE'LL HEAR FROM WHAT SANDERS DECLARES TONIGHT AND BUTTIGIEG. BUT SHE GOT HER NIGHT, TOO. HELLO, I'M AMY KLOBUCHAR. SHE VIEWED IT AS, HEY, I KNOW I'M INTRODUCING MYSELF. >> WE'RE ALL
LEARNING THIS, TOO. THE TRUMP ERA HAS BEEN SO, I THINK FOR THOSE OF US WHO COVER WASHINGTON FRANTIC AND MINUTE TO MINUTE AND ALL CONSUMING. I THINK THERE IS AN EXHAUSTION IN THE COUNTRY OVER IT. LOOK, THEY WATCH THE DEBATE AND THEY MADE UP THEIR MINDS -- HALF OF THEM MADE UP THEIR MINDS IN THE LAST THREE DAYS. THAT SHOULD TELL YOU THE OPPORTUNITY SHE HAD ON FRIDAY. >> WELL, WE KNOW A LOT OF THESE VOTERS DID MAKE LAST-MINUTE DECISIONS. I SPOKE TO A COUPLE WHO SAID, YES, WE DECIDED
OVERNIGHT. I SAID, HOW DO YOU MAKE UP YOUR MIND? THEY SAID, WELL, WHEN ALL THOSE RESULTS STARTING COMING IN ADD MIDNIGHT. THEY SAID, BY THE WAY, THEY VOTED FOR AMY KLOBUCHAR. I THINK THAT MOMENTUM BUILDS ON ITSELF. IT WILL BE INTERESTING TO SEE WHAT PETE BUTTIGIEG DOES OUT OF NEW HAMPSHIRE. HOW DOES HE FIX HIS BIGGEST PROBLEM, WHICH IS OF COURSE COURTING MINORITY VOTERS. >> IT WILL BE INTERESTING TO SEE THE NATIONAL. THE THREE CANDIDATES OUT OF HERE PLUS MIKE BLOOMBERG. AND WHAT
THAT LOOKS LIKE TO VOTERS AFTER THEY DIGESTED WHAT'S COME OUT OF HERE AND THEN SEE BLOOMBERG OVER THE NEXT COUPLE OF WEEKS. IT WILL BE FASCINATING. >> YOU KNOW, DAVID WAS TALKING ABOUT THIS EARLIER ABOUT HOW IT BECOMES A DELEGATE GAME. THE QUESTION I END UP HAVING IS DO WE HAVE A SITUATION OVER THE NEXT MONTH OR SO, PARTICULARLY WHEN YOU GET INTO SUPER TUESDAY WHERE THOSE FOUR CANDIDATES ARE ALL AT 15% OR 20% AND ALL BASICALLY DIVIDING UP THE DELEGATES FOUR WAYS BECAUSE
THE DEMOCRATIC DELEGATE MASS IS PROPORTIONAL OR DO WE END UP SEEING A SITUATION WHERE SOMEONE IS 30, 35 AND SOMEONE IS GETTING BELOW 15. I DON'T KNOW WHERE WE GET THAT FOUR WAY. >> I WANT TO GET DAVE WASSER MAN IN HERE BECAUSE I HOPE HE WAS LISTENING BEFORE WHEN WE WERE EXTRAPOLATING OUT ON INCOME HERE IN NEW HAMPSHIRE, SUBURBAN VOTE AND SHOWING HOW SUPER TUESDAY, DON'T LOOK AT IT BY SPACE, LOOK AT IT BY MARKETS AND BY SUBURBAN VERSUS RURAL AREAS. THIS IS NOT GOING TO BE A
BATTLE OF STATES. IT WILL BE REALLY A BATTLE OF CONSTITUENCIES. >> YEAH. IT IS GOING TO BE HARD TO FIND OUT WITH MULTIPLE CANDIDATES IN THE RACE. AND DEMOGRAPHICALLY, SUPER IMPOSE THEM ON FUTURE CONTESTS. WHEN HILLARY CLINTON, FOR EXAMPLE, WAS GOING TO DO REALLY WELL. THIS TIME AROUND, IT IS UNPREDICTABLE BECAUSE YOU HAVE CANDIDATES WHO CAN COME OUT OF THE RACE BY THE TIME THAT'S HAPPENED. ALTHOUGH, THERE IS NO REAL INCENTIVE FOR THE CANDIDATE TO FINISH STRONGLY INCLUDING
KLOBUCHAR AND BUTTIGIEG TO NOT PRESS ON AND NOT NEGLIGENT STATES LIKE VIRGINIA, LIKE TENNESSEE AND OKLAHOMA. >> YEAH. >> AND MINNESOTA AND MASSACHUSETTS. >> DAVID FLECK, WHAT IS THE UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCES? BUTTIGIEG AND KLOBUCHAR BASICALLY START BATTLING EACH OTHER TO TRY TO COALESS THIS MODERATE LANE. THERE IS RISK THERE IF THEY GO TOO HARD AT EACH OTHER. WE SAW THIS HAPPEN A NOW YEARS AGO. >> YEAH. IT WAS ONLY IN TWO STATES. YOU KNOW, THIS IS AFTER
VERMONT, HE'S ONLY AT 26%, RIGHT? SO I THINK FIRST OF ALL, YOU KNOW, IF BEST CAN'T GROW INTO THE MID-30s, THE ONLY WAY HE WILL BE THE NOMINEE IS BASED ON THE QUESTION YOU JUST ASKED THAT DAVE WAS TALKING ABOUT. IT IS NOT JUST TO FOUR. IF YOU GET SIX. IF BIDEN AND WARREN HEAD INTO TUESDAY, YOU KNOW, THERE COULD BE A SCENARIO IN A STATE LIKE CALIFORNIA WHERE, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE ALL AT 13, 14, 15, 16. MAYBE THEY'RE POPPING UP VIABLE IN SOME CONGRESSIONAL DISTRICTS BUT MAYBE
NOT STATE-WIDE. SO TO ME, THIS IS WHERE THE RACE IS. IS BEST ABLE TO GROW, NUMBER ONE? IF HE IS, HE'S PROBABLY GOING TO BE THE NOMINEE. IF HE'S NOT, THEN HOW MUCH CONSOLIDATION IS OF THE MORE CENTER LEFT. I GUESS THERE IS A SCENARIO WHERE YOU COULD HAVE THREE CANDIDATES ALL GETTING 28, 29 AND THEN NOBODY REALLY BECOMES A PRODUCT. THAT'S THE QUESTION. I THINK BLOOMBERG COMPLICATES THAT VERY, VERY MUCH. >> RIGHT. >> BECAUSE LET'S SAY THAT OVER THE NEXT 18 DAYS
EITHER PETE OR AMY KLOBUCHAR AMY KLOBUCHAR SORT OF TAKES THE LEAD OVER EACH OTHER. AND WHAT IF JOE BIDEN DOES WIN SOUTH CAROLINA? AND HE WILL GET SOME DELEGATES ON MARCH 3rd. SOME OF THIS DEPENDS ON HOW THIS ALL WORKS OUT. BUT IF THEY GO AFTER EACH OTHER, THAT PROBABLY HELPS BLOOMBERG, CHUCK, WOULD BE MY SENSE. IF IT IS A DEBATE IN NEVADA. BY THE WAY, SOUTH CAROLINA, WE'LL SEE. THAT'S REAL POLITICS. IT GETS TOUGH. YOU CAN'T EVEN GET SOME VOTES DOWN THERE IF YOU ARE NOT
WILLING TO THROW SOME HEY MAKERS. >> I'M CURIOUS, WHAT DO THEY MAKE OF A GUY LIKE MICHAEL BLOOMBERG? >> OH, BOY. GOOD QUESTION. I MEAN, LOOK, THE MESSAGING HAS PRETTY MUCH BEEN ON THE MOVE ON SIDE, A BILLIONAIRE BUYING AN ELECTION IS UNDEMOCRATIC. AND HOW BASICALLY UNFAIR A PROCESS IT CREATES. AND THAT'S KIND OF BEEN THE MESSAGING THAT WE HAVE BEEN PUTTING OUT THERE AND THAT'S BEEN KIND OF, YOU KNOW, TRACKING WITH THE MEMBERS. AND SO THAT IS -- THAT IS THE
PROBLEM THAT BLOOMBERG IS GOING TO HAVE. IF HE IS TRYING -- IF HE DOES WANT TO EXPAND. IF HE DOES KIND OF MAKE IT THROUGH AND BECOME, YOU KNOW -- BECOMES KIND OF THE MODERATE GO-TO, YOU GOT TO EXPAND DEBATES. YOU GOT TO BE ABLE TO BRING IN THOSE BERNIE VOTERS AS WELL. IT CANNOT JUST BE THE MODERATE SIDE. THE DEMOCRATIC BASE IS BIG. IT IS A BIG TENT. AND SO THAT IS A THING THAT THEY ARE GOING TO HAVE TO FIGURE OUT. HOW DO THEY TAKE AWAY THAT SPIN OF BEING A BILLIONAIRE THAT'S KIND
OF VYING INTO THIS ELECTION, GOT HIM HIS WAY IN? >> CONTROL ROOM, CAN YOU DO ME A FAVOR AND PUT THE MARGIN BACK ON? BECAUSE IT KEEPS GETTING SMALLER. WE ARE NOW BELOW 4,000. THE SPREAD IS NOW BELOW 4,000, JUST BARELY. >> WOW. >> YOU NOW HAVE 24.2% FOR WHAT IT'S WORTH. LOOK, IF YOU WANT TO LOOK AT THE MAP OVER HERE, GUYS, YOU SEE -- YOU'RE STARTING TO SEE THESE COUNTIES STILL IN HERE WITH -- THIS IS A -- I THINK WE WILL CALL THIS NAVY BLUE. NOT QUITE BLACK.
WE'RE STARTING TO SEE A WHOLE BUNCH OF NAVY BLUE EXACTLY WHERE OUR FRIEND MR. WASSERMAN SAID TO WATCH OUT HERE. I NOTICED THIS NAVY BLUE HAS BEEN COMPETING WITH THE PURPLE OF BERNIE SANDERS, SO THIS IS HOW HE'S MAKING UP MARGINS BECAUSE THIS IS WHERE A LOT OF PEOPLE LIVE. >> RIGHT. IT IS WHERE A LOT OF PEOPLE LIVE. AND IT IS ALSO TYPICALLY, YOU KNOW, AN AREA WHERE YOU WOULD SEE. IT IS SUBURBAN, RIGHT? IT IS THE SUBURBS. WE'RE TALKING ABOUT MORE MODERATE MINDED. THINK
OF SUBURBAN VOTERS, WHETHER THEY'RE DEMOCRATS. UNDERSTANDABLE WHY THEY WOULD BE BREAKING FOR PETE. >> EVEN THE NAVY BLUE THERE, SOME OF THAT BORDERS VERMONT NOW. WE TALKED IN 2016 ABOUT BERNIE SANDERS' STRENGTH. SO MUCH CAME FROM THE TOWNS THAT BORDERED VERMONT. LOOKING AT THAT MAP RIGHT NOW, WHEN TERRY DAN OUR POLITICAL UNIT COLLEGE PUT OUT OUR COLORED MAP FROM 2016, IT WAS BASICALLY A COUPLE HILLARY CLINTON SPOTS. THIS IS AN EVEN, EVEN CONTEST RIGHT NOW BY COUNTY AND BY
TOWN. >> LOOK, THEY HATED THE FACT WHEN I HAD ASKED A FEW QUESTIONS OF WEAVER, HOW IMPORTANT IS IT TO WIN A THIRD OF THE VOTE, YOU KNOW. AND THEY DIDN'T LIKE THAT. BUT YOU WOULD HEAR SOME ADMITTING, YEAH, 30%, WE WANT TO DO THAT. LOOK, IF HE WINS, THIS IS NOT THE WAY HE WANTED TO WIN. >> LOOK, A THIRD OF THE PARTY IS WHAT'S DIFFERENT AS A QUARTER OF THE PARTY. WHETHER HE'S CLOSER TO A QUARTER OR A THIRD IS SOMETHING THAT MAKES A DIFFERENCE IN THE CONTEXT OF WHAT
WE'VE ALL BEEN TALKING ABOUT WHICH IS EVERYONE IS DIVIDING UP THE VOTES AND SUDDENLY THAT 5% BECOMES POTENTIALLY CRITICAL GOING FORWARD. I ALSO THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, THERE ARE SO MANY QUESTIONS AND WE HAVE ASKED THOSE TONIGHT AND WE HAVE BEEN ASKING THOSE FOR THE LAST FOUR YEARS ABOUT WHETHER SANDERS WAS GOING TO BE ABLE TO MOVE BEYOND. WE KNEW HE HAD A FLOOR, BUT WE WEREN'T SURE WHERE HIS CEILING WAS. AND THE RESULTS HERE IN A PLACE WHERE HE WAS INCREDIBLY STRONG WHERE
THE ANTIESTABLISHMENT VOTE WAS SO STRONG AGAINST HILLARY CLINTON IN 2016 THAT HAD HIS MARGIN FOR TRUMP BY THIS MUCH SAYS SOMETHING ABOUT HIS ABILITY TO DO. >> WE WERE TALKING EARLIER TODAY, WOULD HE BREAK 30%, 35% AND HE'S JUST NOT HEADING IN THAT DIRECTION. PRESIDENT TRUMP IS WEIGHING IN. >> I SAW THAT. AND HE'S DECIDED. BASICALLY HIS FIRST HIT ON BUTTIGIEG. >> IT IS HIS FIRST HIT ON BUTTIGIEG ON TWITTER, NOTABLY. >> HOW DID HE SPELL IT? >> BUT
HE SEEMED TO USE A DOUBLE E. >> IT SEEMS TO ME IT'S LIKE AN INSULT AND I'M GUESSING WE CAN'T PUT THE TWEET UP ON THE SCREEN FOR PEOPLE. >> BUT HE SAYS HE'S DOING PRETTY WELL TONIGHT, GIVING CRAZY BERNIE A RUN FOR HIS MONEY, VERY INTERESTING. >> I WILL SAY THAT BUTTIGIEG IS ALMOST THE FUTURE UP HERE. THAT IS LIKE A BADGE OF HONOR. SO IT MAKES ME WONDER EXACTLY WHAT -- >> HE'S DONE THAT, BY THE WAY, AT HIS RALLIES BEFORE. HE SAYS BUTTIGIEG TO
SPOKE FUN AT HIS NAME. BUT, LOOK, HE'S CLEARLY TAKING NOTE OF WHAT IS HAPPENING. >> YOU COVERED THIS MAN VERY CLOSELY. >> YES. >> I FEEL LIKE I HAVE SOME INSIGHT. AND YOU CAN TELL. HE KNOWS HOW HE WANTS TO RUN AGAINST BERNIE. >> YES. >> HE STARTED TO GET NERVOUS ABOUT BIDEN AND HE PUT HIS PRESIDENCY AT STAKE HE WAS SO NERVOUS ABOUT BERNIE. HE DOESN'T KNOW WHAT TO MAKE ABOUT PETE. YOU CAN TELL OFF THE RECORD, ON THE RECORD, HE DOESN'T HAVE
A THING YET ON HIM. I DON'T KNOW WHAT TO MAKE OF THAT. >> SO FAR WE HAVE ONLY REALLY SEEN HIM MOCK HIS NAME, AND THAT DOESN'T GO REALLY FAR. >> THERE WAS ONE OTHER MOCKING. ALFRED E. NEWMAN. THAT WENT OVER A LOT OF PEOPLE'S HEADS. I HAD TO GOOGLE THE REFERENCE. >> I WAS PRETTY SURE I WAS OUT OF LEAGUE ON THAT, BY THE WAY. IT IS HIS WAY OF SAYING YOU ARE OUT OF TOUCH AND THAT'S MY WHOLE REASON FOR RUNNING. >> IT IS REMARKABLE. PETE BUTTIGIEG IS PAST
THE AGE OF THREE OF HIS DEMOCRATIC OPPONENTS AND ALMOST HALF THE AGE OF THE PRESIDENT. THIS IS A MASSIVE GENERATIONAL DISTINCTION THAT WE SEE HERE WITH HIM AND BASICALLY EVERYBODY ELSE. >> WELL, IF YOU THINK ABOUT IT AND BEFORE WE KNEW THAT PETE BUTTIGIEG WAS EVEN RUNNING FOR PRESIDENT YOU THOUGHT ABOUT WHO COULD BE A STRONG CANDIDATE AGAINST PRESIDENT TRUMP? IT WOULD HAVE TO BE SORT OF THE POLAR OPPOSITE IS NOT QUITE THE RIGHT WORD, BUT A COUNTER POINT, IF YOU WILL. >>
THAT'S RIGHT. >> THAT'S WHAT PETE BUTTIGIEG IS. >> SO WOULD AMY KLOBUCHAR BE. >> THAT'S TRUE. WHAT WE SAW IN THE REPUBLICAN FIELD IN 2016 AND IT'S PROVEN TRUE. WHEN YOU TRY TO BEAT DONALD TRUMP LIKE MARCO RUBIO DID, IT DOESN'T GO VERY WELL. >> TIM ALBERTA SAID THAT. >> I THINK THE LEADING QUESTION HERE IS, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE NEVER HAD A GAY PRESIDENTIAL NOMINEE BEFORE. THIS PRESIDENT HAS SHOWN A WILLINGNESS TO CROSS EVERY LINE IN THE
BOOK. HOW FAR IS HE WILLING TO GO? >> I THINK IT WOULD BE TOUGH FOR HIM TO CROSS IT, BUT YOU COULD SEE HIM FINDING OTHER INDIRECT WAYS TO TAKE HIM AT HIM. >> I'LL TELL YOU, THOUGH, THE REASON WHY HE'S BEEN -- THERE IS A LOT OF RISK. >> IT COULD BACKFIRE. >> IN A BIG WAY IN HIS OWN PARTY. THIS ISN'T LIKE ONE PARTY IS FOR MARRIAGE EQUALITY AND THE OTHER ISN'T. IS THERE A POCKET IN THE REPUBLICAN COALITION OF EVAN GELLICS THAT IS FOR MARRIAGE
EQUALITY? THERE IS. BUT IT IS ALMOST EQUALIZED BY HALF OF THE PARTY. >> CHUCK AND I TALK ABOUT 2018 A WHOLE LOT. WHO WAS THE BIOGRAPHY FOR MOST OF THE WINNING DEMOCRATIC PEOPLE? MILITARY CREDENTIALS. PETE BUTTIGIEG KIND OF REPRESENTS THAT. IT WOULD BE MORE PERFECT IF PETE BUTTIGIEG WERE A WOMAN. BUT, AGAIN, WHAT MADE THOSE PEOPLE GREAT AGAINST THE PRESIDENT AND RUNNING AGAINST THE PRESIDENT IN THOSE CONGRESSIONAL RACES WAS I AM A CHANGE MAKER. >> BY THE WAY, PETE BUTTIGIEG
DID WIN OVER KLOBUCHAR. 25% FOR PETE BUTTIGIEG, 23% FOR BOTH AMY KLOBUCHAR AND BERNIE SANDERS. >> THERE HAS BEEN NERVOUSNESS ABOUT A WOMAN RUNNING AGAINST PRESIDENT TRUMP. >> LET'S TAKE A LOOK AT THE CAMPAIGN. ALL ABOUT PETE THESE DAYS. I GOT TO THINK THE REASON WE HAVEN'T SEEN HIM IS THEY THINK THERE IS AN OUTSIDE CHANCE THEY CATCH BERNIE. >> YEAH. I MEAN, THEY THINK IT'S GOING TO BE A VERY TIGHT RACE HERE. YOU HAVE FOLKS CHEERING AS THEY'RE
WATCHING THOSE RESULTS COME IN. EARLY ON IT WAS SORT OF A SLOW ROLL OF TEARS BUT NOW YOU ARE GETTING THEM ALMOST CONSTANTLY AS THIS RACE CONTINUES TO TIGHTEN. THE BUTTIGIEG CAMPAIGN IS LOOKING AT A NUMBER OF THESE EXIT POLLS AND LOOKING AT HOW PEOPLE THINK HE CAN BEAT TRUMP AND HOW WELL HE'S DOING ON SOME OF THESE ISSUES LIKE CLIMATE CHANGE. IT REMAINS TO BE SEEN WHEN HE WILL BE ARRIVING HERE. BUT WE HAVE SEEN A NUMBER OF HIS SURROGATES COME THROUGH. BUTTIGIEG'S MOM IS NOW
HERE. AND SO HOPEFULLY WE'LL BE SEEING THE MAYOR SHORTLY. >> WELL, IT IS INTERESTING. WE WERE ALERTED THAT HE WAS COMING OUT SOON, AND THAT SOON WAS ABOUT 40 MINUTES AGO, CORRECT? >> I THINK THE TIMING IS RIGHT. >> YOU KEEP BRINGING THAT UP. >> IT IS AROUND THE TIME HE STARTED COSTING OFF TO BERNIE SANDERS. THIS IS REMARKABLE. >> YEAH. WE HAVE BEEN HEARING THROUGHOUT THE NIGHT THAT THEY HAVE BEEN WATCHING ON THIS BOARD BEHIND YOU WHERE THE VOTE IS OUT.
ARE WE STILL WAITING ON THE COURT DARTMOUTH? THAT IS ONE PLACE WHERE I THINK, YOU KNOW, THE BUTTIGIEG CAMPAIGN HAS HELD OUT SOME HOPE AS WELL. >> 100% OF HANOVER IS IN. PETE WON IT. >> THE QUESTION FOR HIM, THOUGH, IS WHAT HAPPENS AFTER NEW HAMPSHIRE. WE STARTED TO DISCUSS THIS. BUT HOW DOES HE START TO COURT AFRICAN-AMERICAN VOTERS, THIS STRUG THAT HE'S STRUGGLING WITH? HE REALLY NEEDS TO MAKE UP THIS GAP? AND IN DEBATES HE'S BEEN PRESSED ON THIS ISSUE. THE LAST ONE
PEOPLE THOUGHT HE DIDN'T ANSWER IT SATISFACTORILY. >> HE WILL NEED SOME HELP. THAT IS INTERESTING IS WHERE THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY GOES. IN THE AFRICAN-AMERICAN COMMUNITY, THE LATINO COMMUNITY. WHO ELSE DO THEY PICK? IS IT BUTTIGIEG OR AMY KLOBUCHAR? BUT SOMETIMES THE PARTY ACTORS WILL HAVE TO MOVE. >> JIM IS STILL YET ENDORSED. >> HE'S A BUTTIGIEG GUY, CORRECT? >> LOOK, PETE BUTTIGIEG COULD END UP GETTING A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF HELP FROM SOMEONE LIKE HIM
WITH HIS STATURE WITHIN THE PARTY. BUT REMEMBER BARACK OBAMA NEEDED HELP FROM THE CANDIDATE CLAN. BUTTIGIEG WILL NEED HELP. >> WE'RE GOING TO GO TO BREAK HERE IN A SECOND. BUT THERE IS AN INTERESTING SHOES THAT MAY DROP. WE HAVEN'T HEARD FROM THE KENNEDY CLAN. THAT CAN MATTER. HARRY REED. >> YES. >> BY THE WAY, I GOT ONE MORE FOR YOU. MAYBE HILLARY CLINTON MAY DECIDE TO WEIGH IN. >> RIGHT. >> WE DON'T KNOW IF SHE WILL AND WE DON'T KNOW IF
THAT'S A GOOD IDEA OR BAD IDEA ON THAT FRONT. >> LET'S SNEAK IN A QUICK BREAK HERE. WE ARE AWAITING PETE BUTTIGIEG. HE'S OBVIOUSLY DECIDED TO WATCH SOME NUMBERS COME IN. >> I WOULD. I WOULD. >> AT THIS POINT, WHAT ARE YOU WAITING FOR? WHY NOT? BUT THEY DO LOOK LIKE THEY'RE COMING SOON, SO WE'LL SNEAK IN A BREAK. PRESIDENTIAL PRIMARY RIGHT HERE ON NBC NEWS NOW. >>> WHITE TERRORISM AND WHITE SUPREMACIST TERRORISM IN THIS COUNTRY IS NOT SOME
WEIRD ANALOG TO AL QAEDA OR ISIS. IT'S NOT SOME FOREIGN THING THAT LOOKS LIKE SOMETHING THAT WE'VE BEEN FIGHTING IN THE WAR ON TERROR. IT'S ACTUALLY, FUNDAMENTALLY, AS AMERICAN AS ANYTHING. AND IT IS AN EXISTENTIAL THREAT TO THE MULTI-RACIAL, PLURALISTIC, EQUAL DEMOCRACY THAT WE HAVE BEEN FIGHTING FOR IN THIS COUNTRY SINCE PEOPLE DIED ON THE BATTLEFIELD IN THE CIVIL WAR. >> WE ARE GOING TO START WITH SOMETHING DIFFERENT TONIGHT. THIS IS ONE OF THOSE THINS YOU HAVE
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"DATELINE" WHEREVER YOU GET YOUR PODCASTS. >>> WE'VE GOT THE FUNDAMENTAL THING ABOUT HUMAN BEINGS. AND WE'VE GOT THE WAY THAT WE CONSTITUTE OUR POLITICS. AND THE DANGER IS THAT IF OUR POLITICS GROW TOO TRIBAL, THEN WE'LL LOSE THE SORT OF WAY OF TALKING. >> WHY IS THIS HAPPENING WITH CHRIS HAYES, SUBSCRIBE NOW. >>> YOU ARE LOOKING AT LIVE PICTURES OF THE PETE BUTTIGIEG EVENT. WE ARE WAITING FOR HIM TO COME OUT ANY MINUTE NOW AND WE ARE
SITTING HERE TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHAT VOTE IS OUT THAT HAS THEM WAITING TO SEE IF THEY CAN CATCH UP WITH BEST TONIGHT. >> WE'RE CLOSE. IT'S, YOU KNOW, WE HAVEN'T CALLED IT FOR A REASON. WE STILL WANT TO SEE SOME VOTE OUT OF THE UNIVERSITY OF NEW HAMPSHIRE. STILL A GOOD 20%, 25% OF THE VOTES STILL OUT. WE WANT TO SEE SALEM. HERE IS THE BOTTOM LINE. HERE IS THE MATH FOR PETE. OF THE REMAINING VOTE, HE NEEDS TO WIN 25% IF HE'S GOING TO CATCH UP. IT IS UNLIKELY. BUT
THE FACT IS IT'S STILL POSSIBLE. AND, MARK, YOU WERE ASKING ABOUT THE 10% OF THE VOTE. WE THOUGHT THERE MAY BE 10% NOT COUNTED TONIGHT. IT LOOKS LIKE IN TALKING TO OUR GUYS IN THE BOILER ROOM THAT WE MAY GET CLOSE TO THAT VOTE. THEY ARE DOING A PRETTY GOOD JOB OF COUNTING AND GETTING THOSE. BECAUSE, YOU'RE RIGHT. WE WERE CLOSE ENOUGH. CAN YOU IMAGINE THE BACK-TO-BACK NIGHTS AND WE CAN'T CALL IT. SO, LOOK, WE WANT TO WATCH THIS. WAIT UNTIL WE GET A GOOD 90%. WHICH IN AND OF
ITSELF, YOU KNOW, ISN'T A -- IT IS SORT OF LIKE A -- NOT THE GREATEST VICTORY FOR BERNIE. >> YES. >> LET'S GO TO THE BUTTIGIEG CAMPAIGN WARRIOR. I IMAGINE IT WILL BE LOUD IN THERE, SO I WILL JUST LET YOU START TALKING. >> Reporter: HE WILL TAKE THE STAGE HERE MOMENTARILY. HIS CO-CHAIRS ARE SPEAKING, GOING ONE AT A TIME HERE. WE WERE TALKING EARLIER ABOUT THIS RACE. WHEN YOU'RE LOOKING AT NEW HAMPSHIRE, LOOK BACK ONE YEAR AGO. THEY DIDN'T HAVE A
CAMPAIGN OPERATION HERE. ELIZABETH WARREN AND BEST, BY CONTRAST, VERY MUCH HAD OPERATIONS HERE. ELIZABETH WARREN WOULD HAVE BEEN WELL INTRODUCED FROM THE BOSTON MEDIA MARKET HERE. SO FOR THE BUTTIGIEG CAMPAIGN TO BE FINISHES THERE IS SIGNIFICANT. PARTICULARLY SOME OF THE EXIT POLLING NUMBERS NOT ONLY FROM IOWA BUT ALSO IN NEW HAMPSHIRE. ONE OF THOSE WE WANT TO POINT OUT, WHEN VOTERS WERE ASKING HIM, WHEN THEY WERE INTRODUCING WHICH CANDIDATE TO VOTE FOR, THERE IS A QUESTION OF WHETHER
THEY WERE CHOOSING THE CANDIDATE BASED ON THE NOMINEE WHO COULD BEAT DONALD TRUMP. WHEN VOTERS WERE ASKED THAT QUESTION, PETE BUTTIGIEG EARNED 27% OF THAT VOTE. SANDERS 19%, BIDEN 13%. AT ONE POINT IN THIS CAMPAIGN PROCESS OVER THE LAST YEAR, JOE BIDEN HAS BEEN THOUGHT OF AMONG VOTERS AS THE ONE MOST LIKELY TO BEAT DONALD TRUMP. BUT SUDDENLY PETE BUTTIGIEG TAKING A LARGER SHARE AND THEN AMY KLOBUCHAR THE NEXT LARGEST SHARE. THAT'S WHAT HE WILL NEED TO DO. NOT ONLY WHITE VOTERS BUT
ALSO VOTERS OF COLOR THAT NOT ONLY IN PLACES LIKE NEW HAMPSHIRE AND IOWA, BUT UP IN PLACES LIKE DETROIT AND WISCONSIN, MILWAUKEE AREA THAT WHAT EXACTLY BUTTIGIEG WILL BE ABLE TO DO. I THINK THAT PETE BUTTIGIEG I BELIEVE HERE WILL BE TAKING THE STAGE HERE MOMENTARILY. CHUCK? >> ALL RIGHT. WE WILL KEEP OUR EAR OUT. WE WILL KEEP THE PHOTOS HERE AS WE WAIT TO SEE. IT LOOKS LIKE WE'LL SEE HE'S A COUPLE SECONDS AWAY HERE. MARK MURRAY, ONE WOULD ASSUME HE -- THAT CHALLENGE OF
WINNING OVER MINORITY VOTERS, I'LL BE HONEST, I THOUGHT HE STILL HASN'T FIGURED OUT A GOOD ANSWER TO WHAT I CALL THE FERGUSON QUESTION. HE WAS MAYOR DURING FERGUSON. >> YES. >> FERGUSON WAS THIS BRIGHT NEON SIGN THAT SAID TO ME EVERY MAYOR OF AMERICA NEEDED TO LOOK AT THE MAKEUP OF THEIR POLICE FORCE. AND A COUPLE ASKED ABOUT THAT. WHEN HE TALKED ABOUT THE FIRST THING HE SAID WE HAD TO DO. TWO DIFFERENT PEOPLE SEPARATELY SAID TO ME, YOU KNOW, THE FIRST THING SHOULD
HAVE BEEN WE WANTED TO HIRE MORE MINORITY COPS AND THAT WASN'T HIS INSTINCT. THEY HEARD THAT ANSWER AND IT WAS ALMOST SOMEBODY HOPING HE WOULD GET HIS ANSWER BETTER. HE HAS A WAYS TO GO. >> WE TALKED ABOUT HOW PETE BUTTIGIEG WAS AN OUTSIDE CANDIDATE. BUT ONE OF THE DOWN SIDES OF BEING BRAND-NEW TO THE ENTIRE SCENE IS YOU HAVEN'T EVEN PAID YOUR DUES AND NOW A LOT OF POWER LEADERS IN THE MINORITY. WHEN BILL CLINTON WAS THE OUTSIDER IN 1992, HE HAD AT LEAST BEEN GOVERNOR OF
ARKANSAS FOR MULTIPLE TERMS. >> AND THE NATIONAL GOVERNOR'S ASSOCIATION ALLOWED HIM TO BE -- HE WORKED WITH LAMAR ALEXANDER ON THE NATIONAL EDUCATION POLICY. >> EVEN THOUGH HE WAS INCREDIBLY YOUNG AND THOSE RELATIONSHIPS ENDED UP MATTERING. AND A LOT OF TIMES IT'S LIKE, HAVE YOU BEEN IN OUR FIGHT? HOW LONG HAVE WE KNOWN YOU? CAN WE TRUST YOU? HE STILL HAS TO ANSWER THOSE QUESTIONS. >> I REMEMBER IN '08, THE OBAMA CAMPAIGN TELLING ME DO YOU KNOW WHEN
BARACK OBAMA STARTED GETTING TO KNOW THE SOUTHERN BLACK CHURCH COMMUNITY WAS IN '05 AND '06. HE WOULD GO ON WEEKENDS. HE DIDN'T GET HIS MEDIA. BUT HE JUST SPENT TIME IN BLACK CHURCH IN BLACK CHAR CH IN THE SOUTH. WHEN HE WAS A KID, HE SPENT TIME IN HAWAII. HE DIDN'T HAVE HIS OWN BLACK CHURCH EXPERIENCE IN THE SOUTH, WHICH IS CULTURALLY DIFFERENT. ONCE YOU GET TO KNOW IT, I ASKED THE PETE CAMPAIGN, YOU KNOW, I THINK THE FIRST TIME HE'S REALLY SPENT TIME IN THE
COMMUNITY OF BLACK CHURCHES, PARTICULARLY IN THE SOUTH, IS IN THE LAST FEW MONTHS. >> THAT'S THE COMPLAINT I THINK YOU HEAR FROM THE BLACK COMMUNITY IS YOU HAVE SAID FROM THE BEGINNING OF THIS CANDIDACY, HE HAS THIS ISSUE WITH THE COMMUNITY IN SOUTH BEND, AND HE SAID OVER AND OVER AGAIN, THEY DON'T KNOW ME YET. I HAVE TO TALK TO THEM. WE'RE NOW INTO THE SECOND CONTEST AND THOSE NUMBERS HAVE NOT MOVED. IT IS NOT A COMMUNITY -- I HAVE COVERED QUITE A BIT ON CAPITOL
HILL, THE DEEP AND LONG RELATIONSHIPS THAT HAVE BEEN ESTABLISHED, AN IMPORTANT FIGURE. YOU KNOW, THE PEOPLE WHO ARE THE POWER BROKERS AMONG THE AFRICAN-AMERICAN COMMUNITY, THEY DON'T WANT YOU TO JUST SHOW UP WHEN YOU WANT TO BE PRESIDENT. THEY WANT YOU TO HAVE BEEN THERE. >> THEY WENT THROUGH -- ACTUALLY, THEY WENT THROUGH TWO GENERATIONS OF THAT. THEY'RE TIRED OF THAT. >> THEY'RE TIRED OF IT. AND THE CHALLENGE, I THINK, AS HE SAID -- HE SAID TO CHUCK IN HIS
INTERVIEW WHEN CHUCK SPOKE TO MAYOR PETE ON SUNDAY THAT WHILE THE MISTAKE I MADE WITH THE POLICE CHIEF IS I WILL NEVER FIRE SOMEBODY WITHOUT HAVING A CONVERSATION AGAIN. I WAS BLOWN AWAY THAT WOULD BE YOUR APPROACH. AND PETE BUTTIGIEG HAPPENS TO HAVE A LOT OF INCOMING FIRE HERE. >> YEAH. BUT WE TALKED ABOUT PETE BUTTIGIEG AND HIS FLAWS, BERNIE SANDERS FLAWS WERE QUITE EVIDENT IN 2016. ALTHOUGH, HE COULD PROBABLY DO BETTER WITH YOUNGER AFRICAN-AMERICAN VOTERS THIS TIME AROUND.
AMY KLOBUCHAR HAS NOT REALLY -- YOU KNOW, BEING FROM MINNESOTA. AND YOU LOOK AT JOE BIDEN, THE OTHER PLAYER, AND HIS NUMBERS ARE STARTING TO GO DOWN. AND ONE MORE, MICHAEL BLOOMBERG. SO EVERYONE IS FLAWED. AND LIKE THE QUESTION BECOMES LIKE HOW DO YOU END UP BREAKING? I DON'T KNOW. >> HE TALKED ABOUT IN '08. ACTUALLY, I'M GOING TO CUT YOU OFF BECAUSE WE ARE LOOKING AT LIVE PICTURES OF MAYOR PETE TAKING THE PODIUM IN NEW HAMPSHIRE WHERE THEY HAVE STILL NOT CALLED WHO
WON. >> THANK YOU! THANK YOU, NEW HAMPSHIRE. THANK YOU SO MUCH. ONE MORE TIME FOR OUR PHENOMENAL NEW HAMPSHIRE STATE CO-CHAIRS. THANK YOU FOR YOUR COMMITMENT. THANK YOU TO OUR EXTRAORDINARY NATIONAL CO-CHAIR WHO KNOWS HOW TO RAISE THE ROOF AND HOW TO GET OUT THE VOTES. AND THANK YOU TO THE LOVE OF MY LIFE WHO KEEPS ME GROUNDED AND MAKES ME WHOLE. I WANT TO CONGRATULATE MY COMPETITORS AND THEIR SUPPORTERS ON THEIR CAMPAIGNS HERE IN NEW HAMPSHIRE. I ADMIRE SENATOR SANDERS WHEN I WAS
A HIGH SCHOOL STUDENT. I RESPECT HIM GREATLY TO THIS DAY, AND ICON GARAGE LATE HIM ON HIS STRONG SHOWING TONIGHT. AND I WANT TO CONGRATULATE SENATOR KLOBUCHAR, SENATOR WARREN, VICE PRESIDENT BIDEN AND ALL OF OUR DEMOCRATIC CANDIDATES AND SUPPORTERS. >> AND I KNOW THAT WE ALL SHARE THE SPIRIT THAT WE HEARD FROM SOME OF OUR VOLUNTEERS AT A POLL SITE EARLIER TODAY WHO WELCOMED A COMPETING CANDIDATE WITH CHANTS OF VOTE BLUE NO MATTER WHO. WE ARE ON THE SAME TEAM. NOW OVER THE PAST
YEAR, SOME TWO DOZEN CAMPAIGNS HAVE CRISSCROSSED THIS STATE EACH LAYING CLAIM TO THE ABILITY TO BRING PEOPLE TOGETHER, TURN OUT THE VOTE AND MOVE AMERICANS TOWARD A BRIGHTER FUTURE. THAT TOO. AND HERE IN THE STATES, IT GOES BY THE MOTTO, LIVE FREE OR DIE. YOU MADE UP YOUR OWN MINDS. YOU ASSERTED THAT FAMOUS INDEPENDENT STREAK. AND THANKS TO YOU, A CAMPAIGN THAT SOME SAID SHOULDN'T BE HERE AT ALL HAS SHOWN THAT WE ARE HERE TO STAY. >> SO MANY OF YOU, SO MANY OF YOU TURNED OUT.
DIE HARD DEMOCRATS, INDEPENDENTS UNWILLING TO STAY ON THE SIDELINES AND EVEN SOME NEWLY FORMER REPUBLICANS. READY TO VOTE FOR A POLITIC DEFINED BY HOW MANY WE CALL IN INSTEAD OF BY WHO WE PUSH OUT. SO MANY OF YOU CHOSE TO MEET A NEW ERA OF CHALLENGE WITH A NEW GENERATION OF LEADERSHIP. SO MANY OF YOU DECIDED THAT A MIDDLE CLASS MAYOR AND A VETERAN FROM THE INDUSTRIAL MIDWEST WAS THE RIGHT CHOICE TO TAKE ON THIS PRESIDENT, NOT IN SPITE OF THAT EXPERIENCE, BUT BECAUSE OF IT. >> NOW
OUR CAMPAIGN MOVES ON TO NEVADA, SO SOUTH CAROLINA, TO COMMUNITIES ACROSS OUR COUNTRY. AND WE WILL WELCOME NEW ALIES TO OUR MOVEMENT AT EVERY STEP. >>> WE'LL GO FORWARD THANKS TO THE WORK OF OUR EXTRAORDINARY TEAM OF STAFF AND ORGANIZERS AND VOLUNTEERS. I MAY BE BIASSED ON THIS, BUT I'M ALSO RIGHT. WE HAVE THE FINEST TEAM IN POLITICS TODAY. >> USA! USA! USA! >> AND I WANT YOU TO KNOW THAT YOU DON'T RUST REPRESENT ME WELL, YOU INSPIRE ME. AND I CANNOT
SAY ENOUGH HOW THANKFUL I AM SO OUR EXTRAORDINARY TEAM. >> THANK YOU. AND WE KNOW THAT TEAM STRETCHES ACROSS THE COUNTRY. WE GO FORWARD FUELED BY HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF GRASS ROOTS SUPPORTERS FROM THE WOMAN IN MINNESOTA WHO DONATED IN HONOR OF THE WIFE SHE LOST TO LUNG CANCER TO THE VETERAN FROM CANDIDATE WHO SENT $19.68 IN HONOR OF THE YEAR HE SERVED IN VIETNAM. THIS CAMPAIGN BELONGED TO THEM. AND IF OUR CAMPAIGN MOVES YOU, I HOPE YOU WILL GO TO PETEFORAMERICA.COM AND TIP IN
WHATEVER YOU CAN. AND WE GO FORWARD KNOWING THAT THIS IS OUR CHANCE, OUR ONLY CHANCE, NOT JUST TO END THE ERA OF DONALD TRUMP BUT TO LAUNCH THE ERA THAT WE KNOW MUST COME NEXT. AND THE STAKES, THE STAKES COULD NOT BE HIGHER. WE CANNOT AFFORD TO MISS THE MARK OR TO MISS THIS MOMENT. WE MUST GET THIS RIGHT. WITH AMERICANS LIVING UNDER AN UNACCOUNTABLE PRESIDENT WHO WILL CUT TAXES FOR CORPORATIONS AND THEN CUT MEDICARE, MEDICAID AND SOCIAL SECURITY FOR THE REST OF US, WE MUST GET THIS
RIGHT. WHEN PEOPLE OF COLOR FEAR FOR THEIR OWN PLACE IN THEIR OWN COUNTRY, WHILE INFANTS ARE TORN FROM THEIR PARENTS AT THE BORDER, WE MUST GET THIS RIGHT. AND WHEN A COMMANDER IN CHIEF PARDONS WAR CRIMINALS AND PUNISHES WAR HEROES WHILE SYSTEMATICALLY DEMOLISHING THE CREDIBILITY OF OUR COIN TRY IN THE EYES OF THE WORLD, WE DARE NOT RISK FOUR MORE YEARS OF THIS PRESIDENCY. >> WE ARE LISTENING TO MAYOR PETE BUTTIGIEG TALK ABOUT HIS SECOND PLACE FINISH IT LOOKS LIKE HERE IN
NEW HAMPSHIRE. NBC NEWS CAN NOW PROJECT THAT BEST WILL WIN THE NEW HAMPSHIRE PRIMARY. IT'S A MUCH NARROWER MARGIN THAN WHEN WE WON HERE IN 2016 AGAINST HILLARY CLINTON. THIS MOST LIKELY TO BE THE MOST NARROW. RIGHT NOW WITH 86% REPORTING. BEST HAD 26% OF THE VOTES. PETE BUTTIGIEG HAD 26 PRESIDENT. 5,000 OR SO VOTES SEPARATING THEM. AMY KLOBUCHAR AT 20% WITH 49,000 VOTES. SO BERNIE SANDERS WINNING AS WE EXPECTED. PERHAPS NOT BY AS MUCH AS THEY COULD HAVE LIKED TO SEE. WHERE DO WE GO
FROM HERE? >> NEVADA OF COURSE. BUT THEY HAVE A 1.8 LEAD BY BERNIE SANDERS PROJECTED ON HIS VICTORY. TO ME, YOU HAVE TO GIVE CREDIT TO SANDERS AND HIS CAMPAIGN. YOU HAVE BEEN BEATING THE DRUM FOR A LONG TIME. IN A LOT OF WAYS, I THINK WE LOOK BACK IN THE FALL. AND RIGHT AFTER HE HAD HAD HIS HEART ATTACK, I THINK THERE WAS A LOT OF PEOPLE SAYING HE WAS NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO CARRY ON AND HE RALLIED THE TROOPS AND LOOK AT THIS VICTORY IN NEW HAMPSHIRE. >> THERE WILL LIKELY
BE MORE SCRUTINY OVER THAT EPISODE. LET'S BRING IN OUR ROAD WARRIOR. .